March 5, 2026 • 18 mins
Have you ever wondered how to hide a tool safely when your clothes don't have pockets? In this fun talk, Jess and Erica chat with Eric from Sticky Holsters. They talk about how their special holsters stay in place using just a little bit of pressure and a "sticky" outside. Erica shares a secret about how she hides hers in her bra so she can exercise without it moving!
Eric explains that his company makes everything in the USA. They don't just make things for hiding firearms; they also make gear for hunters. He tells a story about a "modular sling" that lets you use one strap for many different firearms. This helps keep your storage safe and neat. The team reminds everyone that carrying a firearm is a big responsibility. You have to practice a lot and always be very careful. If you want to find these products, you can look in thousands of stores or visit their website!
Links
Sticky Holsters: https://stickyholsters.com/ - Full line of American-made friction holsters and concealment systems. (17:40)
Otis Technology: https://otistec.com/ - The booth hosting the podcast at SHOT Show. (00:15)
She Never Quit: thewoma.org - A support organization mentioned in relation to the hosts and Sticky Holsters. (00:44)
Streamlight Wedge: https://www.streamlight.com/ - A light mentioned during a TSA search story. (06:26)
Key Takeaways
Body Type Inclusivity: Friction holsters are often superior for "fluffy" individuals who find traditional IWB (inside the waistband) clips uncomfortable.
Modular Utility: A good concealment system (like Sticky’s) should work across various platforms—belly bands, ankle rigs, and vehicle mounts.
The Safe Struggle is Real: Modular slings help prevent accidental damage to expensive optics and rifles in crowded safes.
Safety is a Mindset: Respect for the firearm is the most important part of any lifestyle change involving concealed carry.
Key Words
Sticky Holsters, Concealed Carry, Friction, SHOT Show 2025, Venatic Collection, Stock Pad Riser, Modular Sling, TSA, Bra Carry, Belly Band, Accidental Discharge, Lifestyle Change, American Made.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:04):
Welcome to Amateurs and Experts Podcast.
Today we are SHAT Show 2025.
This is the third day, and umwe're halfway through the third
day, which is weird.
It's flying by.
It is.
We're in this uh beautiful boothfrom Otis uh again this year.
I don't know how they uh pickedus, but I am so happy to be here
(00:27):
and uh it's pretty bougie.
It is bougie.
We are bougie.
I don't know.
I call myself um I I telleverybody that my sister's
classy and I'm trashy.
SPEAKER_00 (00:39):
So yeah, but I'm rubbing off on you, and
apparently I'm bougie.
Apparently, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (00:45):
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Everybody thinks you that knowsme.
And we're here with Eric fromSticky Holsters, and um they've
always been such a great supportfor She Never Quit.
And uh their products, I usethem because uh they totally fit
my body and um they fit inplaces that uh most holsters
(01:08):
don't.
And TSA will not find it.
You know, I'm just joking.
SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
I'm just joking the way you phrased that made it
sound like after hours.
SPEAKER_02 (01:22):
Oh yes, yes, yes.
I'm always we always talk aboutdoing an after hours podcast,
you know.
Hi, welcome to amateurs,experts, after hours.
SPEAKER_04 (01:34):
A few adult beverages.
SPEAKER_01 (01:36):
We're gonna do that one of these days.
I swear.
Oh my gosh, we should.
We should.
We get funnier.
SPEAKER_04 (01:41):
Oh, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Deb might fire us from the volunteer board that
we're on, but your engagement'sgonna go way up though.
How do you get fired from avoluntary position?
Let me tell you.
SPEAKER_02 (01:54):
I could find a way.
We have the podcast episode toprove it.
Anyway, um, like I say, I lovesticky holsters.
And um to get more serious, Ijust segments gonna be that.
I think we're delusional at thispoint.
(02:14):
Um, I actually so I've triedother brands out there, and um
I'm fluffy, so the you know, thein the waistband isn't really
for me because I have a lot tofill that waistband.
And uh, you know, I stick aholster in my waistband and
sometimes it um maybe sticksout.
Like a little fat roll thinggoing over.
(02:37):
Um, and that's not cute orconcealed, you know.
Or comfortable.
Or comfortable.
SPEAKER_04 (02:43):
That's the key there, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
The belly band, I I've tried some, and and sticky
does have a belly band.
Um, I I don't know.
I don't really like havingsomething around my belly
because I feel like I don'tknow.
I feel like I already have a bigbelly, so to add a belly band,
it's not my favorite.
But I actually carry my stickyholster in my bra.
(03:07):
Oh.
The look on his face was sogenuinely shocked.
And I actually emailed Mikeabout this and he's like, um,
can you tell me more about thatwithout the pictures, right?
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
She sends me the picture.
I didn't get the picture onetime.
And it would look great, right?
It looks great, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:33):
Yeah, and I love it.
I think that I mean, for me, I Iam, you know, healthy chested.
So to put um, I I have a lot ofstorage and space.
SPEAKER_01 (03:47):
And so Eric is like, This is not what he expected.
SPEAKER_04 (03:54):
It's a good thing I'm aging because I would be
bright red right now.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
I'm sorry.
But it it is a great place.
I mean, I've done vigorousworkouts.
I actually have a a video outthere, uh, like, you know, and I
told my trainer when I when Iwas there, I said, hey, I have a
gun in my bra.
Can uh in a holster, can I do aworkout and see if it stays?
(04:22):
It did not move.
I love sticky holster.
SPEAKER_03 (04:25):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (04:26):
Um, and then also their um mat mag pouches and
stuff like that.
That's all I use.
So fantastic, thank you.
SPEAKER_04 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think the benefit, first of all,
I always tell people holstersare like shoes, right?
Uh you're gonna have yourfavorite, your everyday kind of
normal walking shoe, same withholster, but you can't run a
marathon and go to a wedding inthe same shoe or hike a mountain
or you know, go mudding orwhatever, at least you
shouldn't.
(04:55):
Right?
So it's good to have options andjust like shoes.
There's a hundred different,hundred thousand different
brands of shoes.
Some people like Adidas, somepeople like Nike.
The same thing with holsters.
And um, you know, the benefitwith ours is you can experiment,
and if it works with you with alittle bit of friction
compression, you can carry itanywhere, anywhere.
You're not constrained by theclip or the strap to only carry
(05:18):
it one or two certain ways.
SPEAKER_02 (05:20):
Right.
So yeah, and it does.
Deb tells a story that um shehad her gun in a sticky holster
in her purse, and after she wascleaning her purse out and she
saw it, there was the jellyrancher on this on the sticky
holster.
I think Mike still has it.
Yes, she said it right now.
Yes, and it was the fact thatyou know it it does protect your
(05:42):
gun from whatever's in yourpurse and God knows what is in
Deb's purse.
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (05:49):
Anybody for some dark holes in some purses that
you yeah, I call mine the blackhole.
SPEAKER_02 (05:56):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (05:56):
Mine's like the Mary Poppins bag.
Like I don't, I just keeppulling weird shit out of it.
Like a plastic dinosaur, threeknives.
Like, why do I need that?
Yes.
A platypus, yes, platypus.
17 lipsticks.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:13):
And you only take two of the three knives out
before you fly.
And TSA guys pulling outdinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
That is my life.
You just met me and now you knowme.
I have no idea that was there.
SPEAKER_02 (06:27):
I get it because I was I was flying a couple weeks
ago and I had a streamlight umwedge, and they thought that it
was a knife.
And then they decided to searchmy bag at me.
It's like, how does that work?
But I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (06:45):
I we could have a whole separate podcast about
TSA.
Just my experience with thatwonderful, fantastic
organization.
SPEAKER_02 (06:53):
Yes, yes.
It's yes.
I have several of them.
Yes, and recent.
Every time I fly almost.
Are you on a fly listing?
I feel like I am.
Like they they love to um theylove to touch me.
In places that people shouldn'tcorrect.
SPEAKER_04 (07:17):
Yes.
Yes, yes, violating Fourth andFifth Amendment rights every
day.
SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Like anyway, that's that'sanother segment.
It's a different podcast.
Maybe that's the after afterdark.
After dark.
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_04 (07:32):
Dark stories with TSA.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
I like it.
So, Eric, tell us as you hadtalked about different products
before we hit record.
Um, why don't you tell us aboutsome of the sticky products?
SPEAKER_04 (07:44):
So we offer a full line of concealment products
from holsters to um differentstraps and things, like you
mentioned the belly band, thegarter belt, and the ankle
biter, all those convert asticky holster into a thigh
holster, garter holster, orankle holster.
Um, one thing that separates ourcompany and our brand from a lot
(08:06):
of our other competitors outthere is we try not to just
release products.
Um, we want them to worktogether in one concealment
system, and the center of thatconcealment system is the
original sticky holster.
So you don't have to, you know,if you're carrying multiple
different guns, buy multipledifferent ankle holsters, you
buy our ankle binder and itconverts any sticky holster into
(08:28):
an ankle holster.
Um the same thing with the bellyband, you know, you use your
existing sticky holster and youcan wear it um around your
torso, your hips, or anythingelse like that.
The travel mount if you're goingoff-body in a vehicle, center
console, ATV, boat, nightstand,wherever.
The gun never has to leave yourholster.
And for us, that's paramountbecause it helps eliminate um
(08:50):
the potential for negligent oraccidental discharges.
I mean, most people know, youknow, for me, it's like you're
driving in a car, you're on thephone, your kids are screaming
in the back because they wantmore goldfish, and now you're
trying to take your unholsteredgun from the vehicle mount that
you installed and screwed intoyour thing, but it's
(09:10):
unholstered, so now you'retrying to shove it in your
waistband, in your holster, youget distracted, things can
happen.
So with our systems, thetrigger's already always
covered, it always stays in theholster.
Um, and then as far asdeveloping new lines of products
or um or into other spaces inshooting sports, almost
everybody at the company is ashooter, uh, hunter, fisherman,
(09:34):
has military or law enforcementexperience, and through our
experiences and honestly a lotof feedback from customers about
issues or problems, that ifthere's not a product out there
that can solve the issue thatthey're having, we'll take that
feedback and look at, okay,what's the market research say?
Is there a demand for thisproduct?
And try and either make, as Mikewould infamously say, a better
(09:57):
mousetrap, or redesign somethingcompletely from the ground up
that's completely different andwill still solve problems for
consumers.
So um we don't launch productsevery year.
Probably at any one time we haveeight to twelve different
products in the RD process.
Not all of them will make it tomarket.
Um either market demands change,or someone came out with a
(10:22):
really fantastic product andwe're like, we can't do better
than that.
Or for whatever reason on themanufacturing supply side, we as
an American company that makeseverything in the United States
can't offer it at what we wouldconsider a reasonable or
affordable price for the averageconsumer.
Um so typically, you know, welaunch stuff every you know two
(10:44):
or three years, but we're notgonna just force new products
down your throat just to comeout with a new product at CHAT
Show every year.
We really want to try and helpthe consumer and solve problems,
make their lives easier.
SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
And you talked about the hunting products.
Yeah, yeah.
Can you can you kind of describewhat that would be like?
SPEAKER_04 (11:00):
Yeah, absolutely.
So two years ago, we launchedwhat's called our Venatic
collection.
Uh Venatic means anything to dowith hunting.
So we we had um ideas forproducts going back many, many,
many years.
And one of our products I weactually used two years before
we launched it, so it was almostlike four years of RD and using
(11:20):
it.
I'm passionate about hunting.
Um, our CEO, our CEO Kyle ispassionate about hunting, he's
my hunting buddy.
Our production manager, we allthree of us hunt together quite
often.
SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
Nice.
SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
And we didn't want to have our one of our first
products branching outside ofconcealed carry, but we really
wanted it to be somethingspecial and um that solved a lot
of problems, and that was thestock pad riser, uh, which can
also be it mounts on any boltgun, lever gun, shotguns as
well.
So it's made out of our stickymaterial.
(11:51):
And the problem for that Iincurred with, you know, optics
are getting bigger.
So you know, some of the most ofthe stocks don't have an
adjustable comb on there, so youneed a little bit of help to get
your eye in line with the centerof that optic.
Um and all the other ones thatwould carry ammo are either made
out of leather or nylon, andthey would always move or slide
(12:12):
or adjust on you.
And um, for the hunters outthere, you know, when you're
breaking that shot, especiallymaybe on a really expensive hunt
that you've saved up most ofyour life to go on at one
opportunity to take an animal,um, you don't want anything
moving.
You know, that's bipod, scopes,toe rings, everything should be
(12:34):
well done.
So um, from an unfortunate batexperience that I had, I've you
know, we kind of developed thisthis product.
It's ambidextrous, it comes witha rifle ammo holder, it comes
with a dope cart holder, whichtypically I use to carry my
hunting license in, so it'salways with the gun.
Um, and we do have the optional12-gauge shotgun shell um
carriers as well.
(12:55):
So that was one of the firstthree products that we came out
with.
Um the second was a modularsling, also um comes from my
experience.
Um, anybody who has more thanone long gun in a safe with
slings uh has probablyencountered this where you go
into the safe and you want topull out one of your long guns
(13:15):
and a sling catches a bipod or ascope or something, and then all
eight of them come tumbling outof the safe.
Is that how many you have?
No.
I will not disclose that number.
Yes, no, significantly more.
SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
Um eight's just his favorite number.
Yes, correct, correct.
Only eight come out.
SPEAKER_04 (13:37):
Yes.
And I understand that they'retools, but they're nice tools.
And when you have, you know,super expensive optics and
rifles and things like that.
Having a huge scratch or gougeon it from your safe is is
disheartening sometimes.
So um, out of my frustration, Iwas like, there's gotta be a
better way to do this.
(13:58):
So we came with our modularsling, and it's one sling for
all your guns.
So we have three different, wecall them dongle attachments.
Uh, you pre-mount those to allyour guns.
So they're offered in slingstud, QD, and a regular strap.
So if you're running like an olduh Colt or Beckhole CTR stock or
even the old lever guns thatjust have the loops and you
can't remove the sling studs,they're kind of built in.
(14:20):
Um, those stay on the gun, andyour sling you can hang on the
outside of your safe.
You pull out whatever gun youneed, and it just quickly clicks
in on both ends of the dongle.
There's a quick release buckle.
Um, so it's one sling for allyour guns.
You don't have to, you know, uhuse velcro or rubber bands to
retain your slings and keepseverything organized and things
(14:42):
like that.
So those have been our main two,two of the three products have
done really well for us, and uh,we're excited to be able to have
success branching away fromconcealed carry.
SPEAKER_02 (14:52):
Yeah, absolutely.
So Sheila Hoakstra, she comes toour she never quit.
Yeah, um, definitely uh a forceto be reckoned with.
She is amazing with the ladies.
Um, she reps sticky holstersoaps.
Yes, she does.
SPEAKER_04 (15:09):
Yes, she does.
SPEAKER_02 (15:10):
And uh we had so much fun this last year.
Uh she came out and all theladies got to try it out, and
and um and you know, we were outthere, they were putting it
around the belly band.
I think a lot of them liked.
Um, and it's very much apreference.
Very much a, you know, noteverybody likes to carry a gun
in their chest, and I and I getit, you know.
(15:31):
It's almost like um, I mean,some people love waistband and
their body's made for it.
Some people um, you know, love ashoulder and their body's made
for it.
Um, but it's definitely one ofthose things that you have got
to practice with.
If you're gonna have a concealedcarry, um, practice, practice
(15:52):
your draw, practice, make surethat you know you're not gonna
have your finger on the bangswitch when you're pulling that
gun out and um do reps.
Correct.
You know, it is it is veryimportant for safety and um and
get what makes you uhcomfortable.
SPEAKER_04 (16:09):
Correct, what works for you.
And I always tell people as aninstructor, if you start, if
you're gonna start carrying afirearm, it's a lifestyle
change.
Yes, it's the same as you know,deciding you're gonna change
your diet or work out every dayor change your religion,
whatever.
It is a lifestyle change.
Everything from taking yourlargest holster when you go try
(16:30):
on clothes to make sure thatevery piece of clothing you have
will fit your biggest holster ifyou choose to carry that gun.
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04 (16:36):
Um, thinking about patterns and layering and how,
especially on the female side,you know, how does this shirt
fit if I'm carrying a gun?
Because it might fit differentlyif you're not carrying a gun,
etc.
etc.
Um, so it always has to be onthe forefront of your mind.
Plus, you're carrying a firearm.
And I always say the instant youlose respect for that thing,
(16:58):
it's gonna hurt you or somebodyelse.
Yes, yes.
Um I've seen a lot of negligentand accidental discharges,
whatever term you want to use,some of the people with the most
experience.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04 (17:10):
Um, and that's because they get complacent.
They get complicated kills.
So the moment you lose respectfor it is when it can hurt you.
And so that keeping it in theforefront of your mind is part
of that lifestyle change aswell.
Good point.
SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
So Eric, if uh anybody's looking for a holster,
sticky holster, anybody that hasheard this podcast, how funny we
are and how we how we conceal,um, how how do they reach out to
you?
How do they get a stickyholster?
SPEAKER_04 (17:40):
Uh so we're in uh I think over close to 4,500 retail
stores across the country.
Uh you can find our stuff on ourwebsite direct.
So if you can't get it at yourlocal gun shop or retailer, you
can always get it from us uh onour website.
Uh I think it is also sold onAmazon as well, like everything
(18:00):
else.
Yes.
Um, so and also if if yourfavorite gun shop doesn't carry
uh our products, give us a callor send us an email.
And we actually have kind of uhincentive program.
If you go in there and tell themabout us, we send you a free
holster.
Oh, help expand our sales forcea little bit.
That's brilliant.
(18:21):
Encourages people to carry ourproducts.
Give them they're already aproponent of our product,
they're looking for it.
They can go in a gun shop andsay, Hey, I I'm looking for this
product, you should carry it.
Right.
We'll send a holster to them,we'll send a holster to the gun
shop for free so they can try itout before they place it on it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:35):
Perfect.
Well, thank you for being on ourpodcast today.
Very informative.
Yeah, and I hope you have agreat show.
SPEAKER_04 (18:41):
Thank you, you too.
Appreciate it.
Welcome to Amateurs and Experts Podcast.
Today we are SHAT Show 2025.
This is the third day, and umwe're halfway through the third
day, which is weird.
It's flying by.
It is.
We're in this uh beautiful boothfrom Otis uh again this year.
I don't know how they uh pickedus, but I am so happy to be here
(00:27):
and uh it's pretty bougie.
It is bougie.
We are bougie.
I don't know.
I call myself um I I telleverybody that my sister's
classy and I'm trashy.
SPEAKER_00 (00:39):
So yeah, but I'm rubbing off on you, and
apparently I'm bougie.
Apparently, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (00:45):
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Everybody thinks you that knowsme.
And we're here with Eric fromSticky Holsters, and um they've
always been such a great supportfor She Never Quit.
And uh their products, I usethem because uh they totally fit
my body and um they fit inplaces that uh most holsters
(01:08):
don't.
And TSA will not find it.
You know, I'm just joking.
SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
I'm just joking the way you phrased that made it
sound like after hours.
SPEAKER_02 (01:22):
Oh yes, yes, yes.
I'm always we always talk aboutdoing an after hours podcast,
you know.
Hi, welcome to amateurs,experts, after hours.
SPEAKER_04 (01:34):
A few adult beverages.
SPEAKER_01 (01:36):
We're gonna do that one of these days.
I swear.
Oh my gosh, we should.
We should.
We get funnier.
SPEAKER_04 (01:41):
Oh, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Deb might fire us from the volunteer board that
we're on, but your engagement'sgonna go way up though.
How do you get fired from avoluntary position?
Let me tell you.
SPEAKER_02 (01:54):
I could find a way.
We have the podcast episode toprove it.
Anyway, um, like I say, I lovesticky holsters.
And um to get more serious, Ijust segments gonna be that.
I think we're delusional at thispoint.
(02:14):
Um, I actually so I've triedother brands out there, and um
I'm fluffy, so the you know, thein the waistband isn't really
for me because I have a lot tofill that waistband.
And uh, you know, I stick aholster in my waistband and
sometimes it um maybe sticksout.
Like a little fat roll thinggoing over.
(02:37):
Um, and that's not cute orconcealed, you know.
Or comfortable.
Or comfortable.
SPEAKER_04 (02:43):
That's the key there, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
The belly band, I I've tried some, and and sticky
does have a belly band.
Um, I I don't know.
I don't really like havingsomething around my belly
because I feel like I don'tknow.
I feel like I already have a bigbelly, so to add a belly band,
it's not my favorite.
But I actually carry my stickyholster in my bra.
(03:07):
Oh.
The look on his face was sogenuinely shocked.
And I actually emailed Mikeabout this and he's like, um,
can you tell me more about thatwithout the pictures, right?
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
She sends me the picture.
I didn't get the picture onetime.
And it would look great, right?
It looks great, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:33):
Yeah, and I love it.
I think that I mean, for me, I Iam, you know, healthy chested.
So to put um, I I have a lot ofstorage and space.
SPEAKER_01 (03:47):
And so Eric is like, This is not what he expected.
SPEAKER_04 (03:54):
It's a good thing I'm aging because I would be
bright red right now.
SPEAKER_02 (04:00):
I'm sorry.
But it it is a great place.
I mean, I've done vigorousworkouts.
I actually have a a video outthere, uh, like, you know, and I
told my trainer when I when Iwas there, I said, hey, I have a
gun in my bra.
Can uh in a holster, can I do aworkout and see if it stays?
(04:22):
It did not move.
I love sticky holster.
SPEAKER_03 (04:25):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (04:26):
Um, and then also their um mat mag pouches and
stuff like that.
That's all I use.
So fantastic, thank you.
SPEAKER_04 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, I think the benefit, first of all,
I always tell people holstersare like shoes, right?
Uh you're gonna have yourfavorite, your everyday kind of
normal walking shoe, same withholster, but you can't run a
marathon and go to a wedding inthe same shoe or hike a mountain
or you know, go mudding orwhatever, at least you
shouldn't.
(04:55):
Right?
So it's good to have options andjust like shoes.
There's a hundred different,hundred thousand different
brands of shoes.
Some people like Adidas, somepeople like Nike.
The same thing with holsters.
And um, you know, the benefitwith ours is you can experiment,
and if it works with you with alittle bit of friction
compression, you can carry itanywhere, anywhere.
You're not constrained by theclip or the strap to only carry
(05:18):
it one or two certain ways.
SPEAKER_02 (05:20):
Right.
So yeah, and it does.
Deb tells a story that um shehad her gun in a sticky holster
in her purse, and after she wascleaning her purse out and she
saw it, there was the jellyrancher on this on the sticky
holster.
I think Mike still has it.
Yes, she said it right now.
Yes, and it was the fact thatyou know it it does protect your
(05:42):
gun from whatever's in yourpurse and God knows what is in
Deb's purse.
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (05:49):
Anybody for some dark holes in some purses that
you yeah, I call mine the blackhole.
SPEAKER_02 (05:56):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (05:56):
Mine's like the Mary Poppins bag.
Like I don't, I just keeppulling weird shit out of it.
Like a plastic dinosaur, threeknives.
Like, why do I need that?
Yes.
A platypus, yes, platypus.
17 lipsticks.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:13):
And you only take two of the three knives out
before you fly.
And TSA guys pulling outdinosaurs.
SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
That is my life.
You just met me and now you knowme.
I have no idea that was there.
SPEAKER_02 (06:27):
I get it because I was I was flying a couple weeks
ago and I had a streamlight umwedge, and they thought that it
was a knife.
And then they decided to searchmy bag at me.
It's like, how does that work?
But I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (06:45):
I we could have a whole separate podcast about
TSA.
Just my experience with thatwonderful, fantastic
organization.
SPEAKER_02 (06:53):
Yes, yes.
It's yes.
I have several of them.
Yes, and recent.
Every time I fly almost.
Are you on a fly listing?
I feel like I am.
Like they they love to um theylove to touch me.
In places that people shouldn'tcorrect.
SPEAKER_04 (07:17):
Yes.
Yes, yes, violating Fourth andFifth Amendment rights every
day.
SPEAKER_02 (07:22):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Like anyway, that's that'sanother segment.
It's a different podcast.
Maybe that's the after afterdark.
After dark.
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_04 (07:32):
Dark stories with TSA.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
I like it.
So, Eric, tell us as you hadtalked about different products
before we hit record.
Um, why don't you tell us aboutsome of the sticky products?
SPEAKER_04 (07:44):
So we offer a full line of concealment products
from holsters to um differentstraps and things, like you
mentioned the belly band, thegarter belt, and the ankle
biter, all those convert asticky holster into a thigh
holster, garter holster, orankle holster.
Um, one thing that separates ourcompany and our brand from a lot
(08:06):
of our other competitors outthere is we try not to just
release products.
Um, we want them to worktogether in one concealment
system, and the center of thatconcealment system is the
original sticky holster.
So you don't have to, you know,if you're carrying multiple
different guns, buy multipledifferent ankle holsters, you
buy our ankle binder and itconverts any sticky holster into
(08:28):
an ankle holster.
Um the same thing with the bellyband, you know, you use your
existing sticky holster and youcan wear it um around your
torso, your hips, or anythingelse like that.
The travel mount if you're goingoff-body in a vehicle, center
console, ATV, boat, nightstand,wherever.
The gun never has to leave yourholster.
And for us, that's paramountbecause it helps eliminate um
(08:50):
the potential for negligent oraccidental discharges.
I mean, most people know, youknow, for me, it's like you're
driving in a car, you're on thephone, your kids are screaming
in the back because they wantmore goldfish, and now you're
trying to take your unholsteredgun from the vehicle mount that
you installed and screwed intoyour thing, but it's
(09:10):
unholstered, so now you'retrying to shove it in your
waistband, in your holster, youget distracted, things can
happen.
So with our systems, thetrigger's already always
covered, it always stays in theholster.
Um, and then as far asdeveloping new lines of products
or um or into other spaces inshooting sports, almost
everybody at the company is ashooter, uh, hunter, fisherman,
(09:34):
has military or law enforcementexperience, and through our
experiences and honestly a lotof feedback from customers about
issues or problems, that ifthere's not a product out there
that can solve the issue thatthey're having, we'll take that
feedback and look at, okay,what's the market research say?
Is there a demand for thisproduct?
And try and either make, as Mikewould infamously say, a better
(09:57):
mousetrap, or redesign somethingcompletely from the ground up
that's completely different andwill still solve problems for
consumers.
So um we don't launch productsevery year.
Probably at any one time we haveeight to twelve different
products in the RD process.
Not all of them will make it tomarket.
Um either market demands change,or someone came out with a
(10:22):
really fantastic product andwe're like, we can't do better
than that.
Or for whatever reason on themanufacturing supply side, we as
an American company that makeseverything in the United States
can't offer it at what we wouldconsider a reasonable or
affordable price for the averageconsumer.
Um so typically, you know, welaunch stuff every you know two
(10:44):
or three years, but we're notgonna just force new products
down your throat just to comeout with a new product at CHAT
Show every year.
We really want to try and helpthe consumer and solve problems,
make their lives easier.
SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
And you talked about the hunting products.
Yeah, yeah.
Can you can you kind of describewhat that would be like?
SPEAKER_04 (11:00):
Yeah, absolutely.
So two years ago, we launchedwhat's called our Venatic
collection.
Uh Venatic means anything to dowith hunting.
So we we had um ideas forproducts going back many, many,
many years.
And one of our products I weactually used two years before
we launched it, so it was almostlike four years of RD and using
(11:20):
it.
I'm passionate about hunting.
Um, our CEO, our CEO Kyle ispassionate about hunting, he's
my hunting buddy.
Our production manager, we allthree of us hunt together quite
often.
SPEAKER_03 (11:29):
Nice.
SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
And we didn't want to have our one of our first
products branching outside ofconcealed carry, but we really
wanted it to be somethingspecial and um that solved a lot
of problems, and that was thestock pad riser, uh, which can
also be it mounts on any boltgun, lever gun, shotguns as
well.
So it's made out of our stickymaterial.
(11:51):
And the problem for that Iincurred with, you know, optics
are getting bigger.
So you know, some of the most ofthe stocks don't have an
adjustable comb on there, so youneed a little bit of help to get
your eye in line with the centerof that optic.
Um and all the other ones thatwould carry ammo are either made
out of leather or nylon, andthey would always move or slide
(12:12):
or adjust on you.
And um, for the hunters outthere, you know, when you're
breaking that shot, especiallymaybe on a really expensive hunt
that you've saved up most ofyour life to go on at one
opportunity to take an animal,um, you don't want anything
moving.
You know, that's bipod, scopes,toe rings, everything should be
(12:34):
well done.
So um, from an unfortunate batexperience that I had, I've you
know, we kind of developed thisthis product.
It's ambidextrous, it comes witha rifle ammo holder, it comes
with a dope cart holder, whichtypically I use to carry my
hunting license in, so it'salways with the gun.
Um, and we do have the optional12-gauge shotgun shell um
carriers as well.
(12:55):
So that was one of the firstthree products that we came out
with.
Um the second was a modularsling, also um comes from my
experience.
Um, anybody who has more thanone long gun in a safe with
slings uh has probablyencountered this where you go
into the safe and you want topull out one of your long guns
(13:15):
and a sling catches a bipod or ascope or something, and then all
eight of them come tumbling outof the safe.
Is that how many you have?
No.
I will not disclose that number.
Yes, no, significantly more.
SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
Um eight's just his favorite number.
Yes, correct, correct.
Only eight come out.
SPEAKER_04 (13:37):
Yes.
And I understand that they'retools, but they're nice tools.
And when you have, you know,super expensive optics and
rifles and things like that.
Having a huge scratch or gougeon it from your safe is is
disheartening sometimes.
So um, out of my frustration, Iwas like, there's gotta be a
better way to do this.
(13:58):
So we came with our modularsling, and it's one sling for
all your guns.
So we have three different, wecall them dongle attachments.
Uh, you pre-mount those to allyour guns.
So they're offered in slingstud, QD, and a regular strap.
So if you're running like an olduh Colt or Beckhole CTR stock or
even the old lever guns thatjust have the loops and you
can't remove the sling studs,they're kind of built in.
(14:20):
Um, those stay on the gun, andyour sling you can hang on the
outside of your safe.
You pull out whatever gun youneed, and it just quickly clicks
in on both ends of the dongle.
There's a quick release buckle.
Um, so it's one sling for allyour guns.
You don't have to, you know, uhuse velcro or rubber bands to
retain your slings and keepseverything organized and things
(14:42):
like that.
So those have been our main two,two of the three products have
done really well for us, and uh,we're excited to be able to have
success branching away fromconcealed carry.
SPEAKER_02 (14:52):
Yeah, absolutely.
So Sheila Hoakstra, she comes toour she never quit.
Yeah, um, definitely uh a forceto be reckoned with.
She is amazing with the ladies.
Um, she reps sticky holstersoaps.
Yes, she does.
SPEAKER_04 (15:09):
Yes, she does.
SPEAKER_02 (15:10):
And uh we had so much fun this last year.
Uh she came out and all theladies got to try it out, and
and um and you know, we were outthere, they were putting it
around the belly band.
I think a lot of them liked.
Um, and it's very much apreference.
Very much a, you know, noteverybody likes to carry a gun
in their chest, and I and I getit, you know.
(15:31):
It's almost like um, I mean,some people love waistband and
their body's made for it.
Some people um, you know, love ashoulder and their body's made
for it.
Um, but it's definitely one ofthose things that you have got
to practice with.
If you're gonna have a concealedcarry, um, practice, practice
(15:52):
your draw, practice, make surethat you know you're not gonna
have your finger on the bangswitch when you're pulling that
gun out and um do reps.
Correct.
You know, it is it is veryimportant for safety and um and
get what makes you uhcomfortable.
SPEAKER_04 (16:09):
Correct, what works for you.
And I always tell people as aninstructor, if you start, if
you're gonna start carrying afirearm, it's a lifestyle
change.
Yes, it's the same as you know,deciding you're gonna change
your diet or work out every dayor change your religion,
whatever.
It is a lifestyle change.
Everything from taking yourlargest holster when you go try
(16:30):
on clothes to make sure thatevery piece of clothing you have
will fit your biggest holster ifyou choose to carry that gun.
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04 (16:36):
Um, thinking about patterns and layering and how,
especially on the female side,you know, how does this shirt
fit if I'm carrying a gun?
Because it might fit differentlyif you're not carrying a gun,
etc.
etc.
Um, so it always has to be onthe forefront of your mind.
Plus, you're carrying a firearm.
And I always say the instant youlose respect for that thing,
(16:58):
it's gonna hurt you or somebodyelse.
Yes, yes.
Um I've seen a lot of negligentand accidental discharges,
whatever term you want to use,some of the people with the most
experience.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_04 (17:10):
Um, and that's because they get complacent.
They get complicated kills.
So the moment you lose respectfor it is when it can hurt you.
And so that keeping it in theforefront of your mind is part
of that lifestyle change aswell.
Good point.
SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
So Eric, if uh anybody's looking for a holster,
sticky holster, anybody that hasheard this podcast, how funny we
are and how we how we conceal,um, how how do they reach out to
you?
How do they get a stickyholster?
SPEAKER_04 (17:40):
Uh so we're in uh I think over close to 4,500 retail
stores across the country.
Uh you can find our stuff on ourwebsite direct.
So if you can't get it at yourlocal gun shop or retailer, you
can always get it from us uh onour website.
Uh I think it is also sold onAmazon as well, like everything
(18:00):
else.
Yes.
Um, so and also if if yourfavorite gun shop doesn't carry
uh our products, give us a callor send us an email.
And we actually have kind of uhincentive program.
If you go in there and tell themabout us, we send you a free
holster.
Oh, help expand our sales forcea little bit.
That's brilliant.
(18:21):
Encourages people to carry ourproducts.
Give them they're already aproponent of our product,
they're looking for it.
They can go in a gun shop andsay, Hey, I I'm looking for this
product, you should carry it.
Right.
We'll send a holster to them,we'll send a holster to the gun
shop for free so they can try itout before they place it on it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:35):
Perfect.
Well, thank you for being on ourpodcast today.
Very informative.
Yeah, and I hope you have agreat show.
SPEAKER_04 (18:41):
Thank you, you too.
Appreciate it.
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