September 26, 2025 • 25 mins
Ever wondered how a passion for the outdoors can turn into a successful career? In this episode, the hosts chat with Julie McQueen from Carbon TV. They learn about her impressive journey, which started with her making simple gun cleaning videos in her kitchen and led to her becoming a leader in the outdoor media world. Julie shares that she's done almost everything in the industry, even starting as a volunteer cameraman, which she still loves to do. She believes this background helps her understand and support the more than 300 producers who create content for Carbon TV.
Julie also talks about how amazing it is to see more women in the hunting and shooting community. She remembers a time when there weren't many, and now she loves that it's normal to see successful, talented women everywhere at events like SHOT Show. Her company, Carbon TV, has a 50-50 workforce of men and women, which she feels brings balance and new ideas. The discussion moves to how Carbon TV is changing the game by offering a free streaming service. They've added all kinds of outdoor shows, not just hunting and fishing, so there's something for everyone. This way, they reach a bigger audience and help more people enjoy the outdoors.
To learn more about their content or to submit your own show idea, you can visit the Carbon TV website.
Links
- Otis Technology: A gun cleaning company where the podcast is recorded. (00:05)
Carbon TV: The free streaming service for outdoor content where Julie McQueen is a leader. (00:44)
YouTube: The platform where Julie created her first gun cleaning videos. (01:20)
Dallas Safari Club: A conservation organization where Julie was a guest speaker. (04:47)
Wild Sheep Foundation: A conservation group with the Ruby Mayflower Lake Legacy Fund, of which Julie is a board member. (07:16)
Vizio, Samsung, LG TV: Brands of smart TVs where CarbonTV is pre-loaded. (18:46)
CarbonTV Website: The site where people can submit content and watch shows for free. (20:54)
Key Points
Julie McQueen filmed gun cleaning videos. (01:20)
She transitioned to a corporate role. (02:50)
Carbon TV was founded by someone else. (03:10)
She spoke at Dallas Safari Club. (04:47)
Carbon TV has a 50-50 workforce. (06:05)
Her favorite adventures are with loved ones. (07:56)
Carbon TV diversified content library. (13:17)
She wants a live puppy camera. (15:48)
Carbon TV is preloaded on smart TVs. (18:20)
Content creators can submit content. (20:54)
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SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
Welcome to Amateurs and Experts Podcast.
We are women who fish, hunt,shoot, and all outdoors.
I'm so excited today.
We're at uh SHOT Show 2025 inthe Otis Technology booth, and
um they have this amazing setupfor us.
It looks so professional, andI'm here with Jessica.
SPEAKER_01 (00:27):
Yeah, makes us feel like real adults.
Right.
Like that we're special orsomething.
SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
It's just weird.
It's very, it's very weird.
It's very surreal.
And you know what's even weirderis we have like a pro on our
podcast right now.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
But that's why it's called Amateurs and Experts.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
So yeah.
The lovely Julie McQueen is herewith Carbon TV, and um, she's
gonna just tell us how it'sdone.
SPEAKER_02 (00:52):
Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
You're right.
This is a nice setup.
It is, this is beautiful, yeah.
And you feel like you're kind ofoff of the shot shot show floor,
but you're kind of still on it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01):
So you're so in it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Yeah, it's right in the middle of the good part of
the show.
So yeah, they and it's a corner,it's like a diamond shape,
uh-huh.
And it's very, it's it's niceversus being like a square, it's
on a corner.
SPEAKER_00 (01:14):
It's very fishbowl.
So some of our friends come byand like the window.
SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Yeah, like you like you couldn't take a nap in here
without people just stopping towatch and sleep.
Yeah, it's all like a fishbowl.
You're very, very correct.
Yeah, yeah.
And I love Otis.
Um, fun fact, so back in theday, and this is going quite a
few years back, I noticed onYouTube, and this is before I
started working at Carbon, um,there weren't a lot of gun
cleaning videos for women andbeginners.
(01:39):
So I just like amateur hour setup my video camera in my kitchen
at my house, and I filmed filmeda bunch of gun cleaning videos
using Odes technology.
Really?
Yeah, and they're still onYouTube, and once in a while I
see them and I'm like, oh wow,that was a long time ago.
I never took those down.
But it was kind of like if I cando it, anyone can, you know,
don't be afraid to take your gunapart and think like learn how
(02:02):
to, you know, how the mechanismswork.
And yeah, it was like a huge,cute little passion project for
me back then.
SPEAKER_00 (02:09):
And and is still relevant today.
SPEAKER_02 (02:11):
Oh yeah, yeah.
And I I wonder how many peoplehave watched those and went,
well, she doesn't know whatshe's doing, but it's nice that
she had a good thought.
Oh, how sweet.
Yeah, how cute.
SPEAKER_01 (02:21):
As they say, she's pretty.
Yeah, yeah, isn't that adorable?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:26):
That's awesome.
And so you went from uh YouTubevideos to how do you get from
YouTube videos of making um guncleaning videos in your kitchen
to carbon TV?
SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
Well, I mean, that was kind of just a l cute
little, you know, kind of oh,let's see what see what happens
here.
Um, I was already in theindustry at the time.
I had a number of different TVshows, and I was producing
different TV shows andcommercials at the time.
Um, but you know, that was justkind of me going, hey, you know
what else would be cool?
Let me set this camera up in thekitchen.
Um so yeah, I had a history, youknow, in the industry of
(03:01):
producing a lot of you knowcontent, you know, in different
forms.
And um, so then I kind of juststarted transitioning over to
more of a corporate role whenCarbon TV needed an you know new
leadership to come in.
Um so Carbon TV already existed.
It was founded by you know ouroriginal founder, and when they
went through kind of anacquisition back in 2017, they
(03:22):
really just needed leadership tocome in.
So that's when I entered, youknow, into the picture.
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
So you've you've actually like pretty much done
everything.
SPEAKER_02 (03:31):
All of it, for yeah.
I was my I got my startvolunteering as a cameraman.
SPEAKER_00 (03:35):
Really?
SPEAKER_02 (03:35):
Yeah, behind the camera, filming deep.
Yeah, I loved it.
I still volunteer as acameraman.
If my friends have tags, I'mlike, oh, I'll get my camera and
follow you around.
And you know, 20 years later,I'm still it's my favorite
thing.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (03:48):
So you know every aspect of the business.
SPEAKER_02 (03:50):
Yes, yeah, and I think that's what's really
helped carbon succeed is thatyou know, we have over 300 uh
producers that we license anddistribute content from.
So it's a lot of people who arein the field, and this is what
they're passionate about.
Right.
So I have the honor of you knowrunning a company that allows
them to share that voice.
Um, but as a producer, I knowwhat's important in that world.
(04:13):
I know kind of you know howimportant it is to make your
sponsors happy and goodcommunication and fast upload
times, like all of the thingsthat make their lives a little
better.
And great content.
Yeah, and great content andfeedback.
And um, yeah, so I think thatthe fact that I did live that on
that side of the fence for solong, so many years, has given
(04:35):
me a deep connection to theproducers, and honestly, without
them, we would be nothing.
Like with the company wouldn'texist if we didn't have all of
those amazing people out therecreating their content.
That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:47):
So last uh two weeks ago, I actually met you at
Dallas Safari Club.
Yeah, and um, you were the guestspeaker.
I was, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (04:54):
It was so great.
Yeah, they um I I work with alot of the conservation
organizations in different ways,and a lot of times they ask me
to come in and give a littlespeech.
Um, and at that one, I wasspeaking at their ladies'
luncheon, which is always a hootfor anyone who's never been to
ladies' luncheons at theseevents.
They're so much fun.
No one walks in that room in abad mood.
You know, they're all there tosee old friends and meet new
(05:16):
people and network, and youknow, the auction items raise
money for good causes.
And so I gave um just a shortspeech at the luncheons.
You try to keep it short andsweet because they want to get
to the fun part.
So I did my best to, you know,consolidate everything.
Um, but yeah, it was reallygreat.
I kind of just talked a littlebit about you know empowering
females in this industry.
(05:37):
Um, you know, I've beenfortunate to be doing this for
quite a long time.
I'm aging myself here, but likea long time.
And back in the day I rememberthere weren't many women.
You know, I would come to ShotShow almost 20 years ago, and
there it was rare to see femaleswalking around.
And I love that now we've kindof gotten to the point where
(05:58):
it's it would be weird not tosee a bunch of women walking
around.
Yes, like and very intelligent,successful, talented women who
know what they're doing and whohave really built great careers
in this industry.
Yes.
Um, yeah, so I gave a littlespeech on kind of my journey, I
guess, and witnessing that andtrying to be a part of it in a
positive way.
(06:18):
Um, you know, like I I think atthat at that luncheon, one of
the things I said was when Itook over Carbon TV, I was the
only female working at thatcompany.
Right.
It was all men, and they arewonderful men, like they're
smarter than I am for sure, andthey do such an excellent job.
But I knew that it was alsoimportant to start hiring
(06:39):
females.
Um, so we have a 50-50 workforcenow.
So I have a lot of intelligent,amazing women who work with us
at Carbon.
That's great.
It's like it's incredible, andthey bring so much value to the
table.
They see things through adifferent lens.
Um, and then the men who stillwork with me, you know, after
all these years at Carbon, um, Ithink that they they also like
(07:00):
that.
You know, now it just feels alittle more balanced.
It kind of brings a you know afeminine touch to the company in
some ways, which is nice.
Um, so yeah, it's that's that'sreally cool to me to be a part
of that.
And absolutely and to watch itgrow, and to watch it grow,
yeah, and to be a part of thatpositive growth.
Um and then just throughout theindustry, you know, there's a
(07:20):
lot of great women'sorganizations, um, you know,
women's camps, training classes,you know, specifically for
women.
Um, I'm on um the board ofdirectors for the Ruby Mayflower
Blake Legacy Fund through theWild Sheep Foundation, which
empowers women to heal throughnature after traumatic um
situations in life.
Oh, that's awesome.
(07:41):
So just a lot of really coolthings like that that you know
over the years it's beenbuilding all of this momentum to
create such a great space forladies who just love the
outdoors.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
What's the coolest hunt or adventure you've been
on?
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
Oh man, that's such a tough question.
I've been so lucky.
I have been I have been so luckyover the years to get to do some
really incredible things.
Um usually it's about who's withyou, you know.
Um back in the day I would havenamed my biggest animal or, you
know, like my first year, um,which those are still super
(08:17):
special, um, you know, and andgreat memories.
But now the older I get, it'swho who do I get to go spend
time with, you know.
Um every year I try to do atleast a hunt with my best friend
Jana Waller, who everyone knowsand loves.
And I cherish those moments.
You never know when it could beyour last time in the field with
the people you love most.
(08:38):
Um my fiance is a houndsman, soevery day when we go hunt
together and take the dogs andthe mules, that's my favorite
day every day.
You know, like it turns into thefavorite moment as it moves
forward.
SPEAKER_00 (08:51):
And isn't that true when you're out in nature, when
you're it's almost like thecamaraderie, the connection is
more intense.
SPEAKER_02 (09:00):
It is, yeah.
And I think the older we get,the more we cherish those
moments.
Um, it's not about filling tags,you know.
It's and I always say I did notbuild my career on filling a lot
of tags in this industry.
I I built my career on having agood time and telling stories,
you know, like there's hope forme.
It's so true.
(09:20):
And and I I've tried to keepthat kind of that mindset of,
you know, people just they wantto hear good stories, and that
we're all storytellers at thecore, you know, in our different
ways.
And for me, that's a big part ofwhat I hope is my legacy is
encouraging people to tell thosestories and to to really be in
the moment when they're in thefield with the people they love
(09:41):
most, and then pass thosestories down.
SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
That's beautiful.
Um I think it's important notonly to get women in but to have
great uh adventures, um, butalso like with kids and and um
you know, the whole these arewhole family events.
SPEAKER_02 (09:58):
Yeah, but yeah, it really is important, and you
know, all of the studies saythat if the mother in the
household is a hunter or ashooter, whatever it is, the
kids are so much more likely tofollow down that path as well.
Um so when we're working with,you know, encouraging women to
get outdoors or encouraging themto feel more confident, you
know, doing whatever that hobbyis that they want to do, um, you
(10:19):
know, to also feel good aboutyou know educating their kids as
they're as they're going to soyeah, I think um you know
there's a lot of great kidsorganizations.
We've tried to do a lot of workwith them as well over the
years, and and that's justspecial, you know.
Anytime you see a kid light upwhen they hear a turkey gobble
or you know, see a deer, youknow, out in the wild, it's just
(10:40):
there's something really specialabout that.
And I don't know if peopleoutside of our community it
would understand it fully untilthey get to witness it
themselves.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:51):
Deb says if you teach a woman to hunt, she
brings food and she also teachesher children.
SPEAKER_02 (10:57):
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:59):
And and that is pretty true.
SPEAKER_02 (11:00):
Yeah, and it and it can even branch outside of
hunting.
You know, you could say the samething about um, you know,
shooting or you know,marksmanship or archery, um, you
know, even just going for hikesand appreciating, you know, the
level habitat or the wildlife,you know, just kind of having
that deep appreciation for it ispassed down generationally.
(11:22):
And I think, you know, we're atthat point now where it's it's
more accepted.
We've normalized theconversation around, you know,
women can do all the same thingsthat men can do for the most
part.
Right.
And yeah, so it's it's beenreally fun just kind of seeing
that transition where it's not ataboo to see you know women
setting up their own camp andthere are no men.
SPEAKER_01 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think as as women we'remuch better at sharing it with
friends, whereas men, if theyhave a friend who has never shot
before, they're probably gonnabe like, yeah, go with me.
No, I'm not gonna go.
Okay, whatever.
Whereas women were like, no,come with me.
Like, here's why.
So it's generational, but likelinear as well, because we're
spreading it to other friends,females, different ages, because
(12:06):
you can get into it at any age.
SPEAKER_02 (12:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
I I totally agree with that.
Sometimes with men, I think thatyou know they can be discouraged
a little easier, but um withwomen, I just I know so many uh
amazing women who've reallycreated safe places for other
women to come learn and you knowjust kind of be a part of it.
Even if they're not intohunting, that's okay.
(12:28):
You know, they can still be apart of our girl group where you
know kind of you're learningdifferent skills in the outdoors
that can you know kind oftranslate to different uh ways
to appreciate nature.
SPEAKER_00 (12:39):
And it's more of a camaraderie.
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
So as far as future stuff goes.
SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
Yeah, future stuff.
I you know, it's so funny, likeevery year it just keeps getting
better.
And I I probably sound like acrazy person saying that, like
I'm oh, she's you know, likejust being too positive and
whatever, but it just keepsgetting better, and I'm so
excited to see what's comingnext.
Um, Carbon TV's doing great, andI'm excited for that because
(13:09):
it's my baby.
You know, I I love thatbusiness, I love every person
who we work with.
Um, I have you know, personalconversations with all of the
producers, just checking in onthem, seeing how they're doing,
and um, so I think there's somereally big things in store as
far as the content side of whatwe're doing.
Um, you know, we're making somereally cool moves.
Um, one cool thing is we'vediversified our content library
(13:32):
to go outside of you knowhunting and fishing.
So anything that happensoutdoors, we're interested in
it.
So that could be you knowcooking shows, aviation,
survival, overall.
Scuba, scuba, we need to getsome scuba TV shows.
That's a great idea.
Yes, scuba's scuba.
Yeah, see?
Yeah, okay.
I'm in it, I'm in.
I I just think that like one ofthe coolest things is when you
(13:54):
go to carbon now, it's not justto watch hunting shows, which
are still important to us.
Don't get me wrong, like that isstill a massive part of what we
do.
Um, but there's a crossoveraudience with everything else
that happens outside.
And we figure somebody who lovesagriculture probably also loves
hunting or fishing.
So I'm excited about that.
(14:15):
I'm excited to kind of um expandour audience, um, expand our
producer base.
So we're inviting more shows in,you know, more people to work
with.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
Um, yeah, it's and I see, I mean, you have TV, you
have, you know, movies,podcasts, you know, I mean, you
kind of have everything rightthere.
SPEAKER_02 (14:34):
Everything right there, yeah.
Um, we so obviously episodiccontent is you know still the
main part of what we do.
Um, we have a ton of um shortfilms, documentaries, live
cameras, live wildlife camerasare so cool.
Yes, I saw that.
Yeah, I have a theory thatnobody actually works, they just
sit there and watch live camerasall the time.
SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Oh my gosh, that is so true.
Yeah when um the giraffe washaving the baby.
I remember my coworker was yeah,that's all she was.
Yeah, right, yeah, and then shewas sleeping.
One morning I was up watching,and I just kind of looked at it
real quick.
Yeah, and I'm like, I actuallycalled her.
I'm like, she's having the baby.
Oh my gosh.
She goes, Oh my gosh, thank youso much.
(15:15):
You know, that's so cool.
SPEAKER_02 (15:16):
I'm like, it's happening right now.
Oh my gosh, I love that.
That that is so cool.
We see the coolest stuff onthose cameras.
Um, we used to have a live eaglecam, um, and it was literally
looking down into an eagle nest.
And the stuff that this momwould bring the baby eagles is
crazy.
She'd show up with a turtle, youknow, and just like the most
random and I'm going.
(15:37):
We're we're being educated rightnow on eagle.
Yes, that is such a cool thing.
Yes.
Um, yeah, so I I think peoplejust stream those all the time.
And I love them.
We're looking for more livecameras.
You know, we're just constantlythinking, okay, what else would
people want to see?
And then we just learned.
SPEAKER_00 (15:52):
If you would like to put a live camera in my house,
it is chaos.
SPEAKER_02 (15:55):
Yeah.
I know.
Well, my biggest thing, I wantto, I want to give a I want to
get a puppy camp, you know, soyou want to watch puppies all
day.
SPEAKER_01 (16:05):
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02 (16:06):
I mean, look how successful puppy bowl is.
Totally.
Yeah.
That's but it's like one of mybig professional goals is to
eventually have a puppy cameraon carbon.
Yes, makes sense.
Yes, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
I have the person, I have theperson.
SPEAKER_02 (16:21):
Okay, yeah.
Just you just send me in theright direction, we'll make it
happen.
SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
That's so cool.
Um and when I was I was checkingeverything out, I was just like,
oh my gosh, this is amazing.
All your content is uh sodiverse.
SPEAKER_02 (16:35):
Yeah, it is, yeah.
And it's you know, even when Igo on, I you'd think I would
know everything that's on thenetwork.
I'm surprised.
There's a ton of stuff.
Oh yeah.
I found a like a uh snakewrangling show on there once,
and I was like, when did thishappen?
unknown (16:49):
This is crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (16:50):
Oh my gosh.
I didn't know.
Like I'm in it, I'm invested,but this is different.
Like now I have to binge watchthe whole thing, you know.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:57):
No work is gonna get done.
SPEAKER_02 (16:58):
Yeah, there's some really cool stuff on there.
And a lot of the it's coolbecause a lot of the shows that,
you know, like back when I wason the network, you know, way
back in the day, a lot of theshows that aired on the same
network back then are now overon carbon TV.
So I'm seeing a lot of thattransition over to the digital
side, which is really fun.
SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
So how does that uh compare?
SPEAKER_02 (17:21):
Well, I don't know very many people who have cable
TV anymore.
So I mean I hate to I hate to bethe one to you know say it out
loud, but my dad does, you know,he has cable TV and I know he
still watches it, but I don'tknow anyone else who does.
So for us, it's been that's beena good thing.
People want to cut the cablecord, they don't want to pay you
know a crazy amount of moneyjust or stuff that they don't
(17:44):
watch, right?
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
Right, because it's crap.
SPEAKER_02 (17:47):
Yeah, that's gonna be our new advertisement.
You're welcome.
unknown (17:51):
Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
I need that.
That's gonna be our new soundbite when we're advertising
carbon TV.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:59):
You can use it.
Yeah, thank you.
Because it's true.
I mean, otherwise you can haveall these different
subscriptions to content thatyou actually want and care about
versus watching reruns of thesame one season that TBS bought
of Big Bang.
SPEAKER_02 (18:11):
Absolutely.
And with carbon, and we don'tcharge anything.
That's one common misconceptionis that there's even a
subscription.
We don't have a subscriptionmodel.
Anyone can just watch it all thetime anywhere.
SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Yeah, I was watching it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
But like literally, you don't have to sign in or
anything.
We love it, we'd love if yousign in because then you know we
can start recommending thingsthat you might like or
understanding your use.
Okay.
Yeah, so it's cool for people tolog in, but we don't require it
by any means.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, it's totally freeto watch and it's everywhere.
So even if you just go toWalmart and buy a new smart TV,
(18:43):
we're preloaded in thatsoftware.
So it's everywhere.
Oh my gosh, when I get home, I'mgonna download it.
Yeah, if you have a Visio, aSamsung or LG TV television,
uh-huh right there already onit.
SPEAKER_01 (18:55):
I have a Visio.
SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
Yeah, and it's on it.
Yeah, it's preloaded in yoursoftware.
Is that so cool?
SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
This is so cool.
I'm literally all the TVs in thehouse are gonna have it
downloaded.
I'm gonna see spikes in all myreports.
I'm like, oh, I wonder how thathappened.
SPEAKER_02 (19:09):
Yeah, oh I'm gonna make it map are just gonna go,
right?
Yeah, I know it's like my mybestie Jana.
She'll go to like, you know, thetire shop to get new tires, and
she'll walk in and put carbon onthe TV forum.
And I'm like, yeah, girl, that'swhat that's a great idea.
So like every place of businessyou walk in, just like put it on
(19:32):
their TV because people don'teven know how great it is.
Right.
It's so cool.
That's great advertisement.
Yeah, yeah.
I know.
We all need a bestie like that.
It's like that grassrootseffort.
Yeah, she's just walking topeople's houses putting it on
their TV.
SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
Super Bowl?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (19:47):
Yeah, no, not in this world.
No, it's carving TV all thetime.
unknown (19:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
That's so cool.
unknown (19:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Oh, that's pretty cool.
As far as the the productionside of it, like how do you go
from film to digital?
SPEAKER_02 (20:00):
Um, so from film like on network, yeah.
It's really simple.
So as long as the content youknow, creator owns that content,
if it even if it's aired on anetwork, you know, or 22 and a
half minutes and whatever, andit doesn't have commercials in
it, if we bring them on tocarbon, you can literally just
put it right on carbon TV.
(20:20):
So our upload system looks a lotlike YouTube.
So basically, if you have thosevideo files and we have a deal
with you where you know,licensing agreement, you just
woke upload all of it to carbon,just like you would YouTube.
SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
That's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
It's so cool.
Yeah, yeah, we made it reallyeasy.
Easy.
Yeah, the the guys who work atcarbon are way smarter than
anyone else I know.
They just they made it so easyand you know really
user-friendly.
SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
So are you looking for content or we're always
looking for content?
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
I was just gonna ask that.
Like if somebody out there hascontent that they're doing, you
know, is there an applicationprocess?
SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
Yeah, um, there there is actually.
We have a content acquisitionteam.
Um, and you can actually go tothe Carbon TV website and just
there's a little thing on therewhere you can find it pretty
easy, just like submit yourcontent.
Um, and I it actually comes tome.
So I personally and my VP got anin AF, right?
Yeah.
You know someone.
SPEAKER_00 (21:15):
We're gonna upload the content from this week and
you're gonna be like, no.
SPEAKER_02 (21:21):
Somebody pulled a plug.
SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
Who let these women on our website?
Either that, or you're gonna belike, yes, the animal cameras go
in their houses.
SPEAKER_02 (21:28):
Right?
Yeah.
Again, we're gonna see all thosereports spike.
Yeah, just like massive spikeseverywhere.
Yeah, so so literally people cansubmit their, you know, it's
like an application basically.
Um, and then my uh vicepresident Autumn, um, she heads
up the content acquisition.
SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
Oh, and I have her information too.
SPEAKER_02 (21:49):
So if you know Autumn, it's even better than
knowing me.
SPEAKER_00 (21:52):
That girl's a No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (21:54):
She handles a lot.
I I would die without that girl.
Um so Autumn and I both.
Take a look at everything thatcomes in, all the content that
people are submitting, saying,like, hey, you know, I wanna I
wanna start a show, and this ismy idea.
And we, you know, typicallythey'll have like at least an
episode or two for us to lookat.
Um, but we don't accept all ofit.
So sometimes we do rejectsomething that comes in because
(22:17):
either capacity, it's just not agood fit for the library, maybe
production value, you know,isn't there.
SPEAKER_01 (22:23):
So because I was gonna say that there's gotta be
certain specs you have to havefor I mean, digital is one
thing, but actual television,right?
You have to have certain specs.
SPEAKER_02 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah.
So that is one, you know, onething that we'll probably keep
in place forever, just thequality control for brand
safety, um, which to me isreally important.
You know, we have for anycompany in this.
Yes, it is, yeah.
And you know, YouTube has theirown thing going on over there.
SPEAKER_01 (22:46):
You don't want to be Tribe TV.
SPEAKER_02 (22:47):
Right, yeah.
Bingo.
Another sound bite I'm gonnaneed from you.
SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
So I'll give you my card after.
Yeah, this is like I doconsulting.
Yeah, this is like marketing 101going on in here today.
SPEAKER_02 (23:02):
Yeah, but it's true, you're absolutely right.
Like, I we want to keep thatbrand safety quality control
because we have advertisers, youknow, on carbon, and we're proud
to work with all thoseadvertisers.
And for them, I want their adsto run around good quality
content, you know, like theydeserve that.
And so, yeah, we're just youknow, but we are always looking
for new shows to come on.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
Yeah, perfect.
Well, um, I think we have acouple for you.
SPEAKER_01 (23:28):
Awesome.
Yeah, so we're gonna start ourown reality show.
I mean, now now on the queue, wehave to do an after dark, after
hours podcast.
Yes, because I feel like there'scontent there, and now our own
reality show.
I like frolicking out.
I like it.
I'm in.
Yeah, accepted.
SPEAKER_02 (23:45):
What are we gonna do?
SPEAKER_00 (23:48):
It's been so great having you on.
SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
Oh, thanks.
SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
And and uh, you know, like I say, it was uh when
I heard you uh a couple weeksago, I was just like, oh my
gosh.
And I wanted to come over andtalk to you.
I'm so glad I I well I wasn'tstalking, but it just so
happened that we were walking inthe same direction.
Yeah.
I was like, oh my gosh, pinchme.
Julie McQueen's coming on.
(24:11):
Oh my gosh, that's so cute.
unknown (24:13):
That's adorable.
SPEAKER_00 (24:15):
So thank you for for being here and allowing me to
fangirl a little bit.
SPEAKER_02 (24:18):
Oh my gosh, I'm fangirling now too.
I just want to hide in this roomwhile you're interviewing other
people and make comments fromthe back.
It is touched.
Yeah, I feel like that's smart.
SPEAKER_00 (24:27):
Okay.
Yes, we're gonna put how muchtime in the corner.
No, I was I was thinking likeshe could just have a stool here
and we could give her thatmicrophone and she could just
why not?
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
Yeah, I'll just I'll just randomly pop in when I see
you interviewing people and justwalk in.
SPEAKER_00 (24:40):
Okay, make sure you have the microphone in.
SPEAKER_02 (24:42):
I'll make it real awkward.
It's gonna be great.
SPEAKER_00 (24:44):
Oh my gosh, we love that.
There's been so many it's thepoor guy, the last guy that was
in here, he's like, I'm so gladI'm Asian because I would be red
right now.
SPEAKER_01 (24:56):
Yeah, when we were on with primary arms, like there
were just so many things like,wow, this has already gone
downhill.
Like, I mean, it was a fantasticpodcast, but we just like went
off the rails.
SPEAKER_02 (25:06):
That's how you know it's a good podcast, right?
No one's gonna be fastforwarding through like hanging
on the edge of their seat.
Like, what are they gonna donext?
unknown (25:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:17):
Again, thank you for coming on our podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (25:19):
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, this has been so much fun.
SPEAKER_00 (25:21):
Thank you.
Yeah, have a great show.
SPEAKER_02 (25:22):
Oh, thank you.
You too.
Welcome to Amateurs and Experts Podcast.
We are women who fish, hunt,shoot, and all outdoors.
I'm so excited today.
We're at uh SHOT Show 2025 inthe Otis Technology booth, and
um they have this amazing setupfor us.
It looks so professional, andI'm here with Jessica.
SPEAKER_01 (00:27):
Yeah, makes us feel like real adults.
Right.
Like that we're special orsomething.
SPEAKER_00 (00:32):
It's just weird.
It's very, it's very weird.
It's very surreal.
And you know what's even weirderis we have like a pro on our
podcast right now.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (00:41):
But that's why it's called Amateurs and Experts.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
So yeah.
The lovely Julie McQueen is herewith Carbon TV, and um, she's
gonna just tell us how it'sdone.
SPEAKER_02 (00:52):
Yeah, I'm happy to be here.
You're right.
This is a nice setup.
It is, this is beautiful, yeah.
And you feel like you're kind ofoff of the shot shot show floor,
but you're kind of still on it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01):
So you're so in it.
SPEAKER_01 (01:03):
Yeah, it's right in the middle of the good part of
the show.
So yeah, they and it's a corner,it's like a diamond shape,
uh-huh.
And it's very, it's it's niceversus being like a square, it's
on a corner.
SPEAKER_00 (01:14):
It's very fishbowl.
So some of our friends come byand like the window.
SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Yeah, like you like you couldn't take a nap in here
without people just stopping towatch and sleep.
Yeah, it's all like a fishbowl.
You're very, very correct.
Yeah, yeah.
And I love Otis.
Um, fun fact, so back in theday, and this is going quite a
few years back, I noticed onYouTube, and this is before I
started working at Carbon, um,there weren't a lot of gun
cleaning videos for women andbeginners.
(01:39):
So I just like amateur hour setup my video camera in my kitchen
at my house, and I filmed filmeda bunch of gun cleaning videos
using Odes technology.
Really?
Yeah, and they're still onYouTube, and once in a while I
see them and I'm like, oh wow,that was a long time ago.
I never took those down.
But it was kind of like if I cando it, anyone can, you know,
don't be afraid to take your gunapart and think like learn how
(02:02):
to, you know, how the mechanismswork.
And yeah, it was like a huge,cute little passion project for
me back then.
SPEAKER_00 (02:09):
And and is still relevant today.
SPEAKER_02 (02:11):
Oh yeah, yeah.
And I I wonder how many peoplehave watched those and went,
well, she doesn't know whatshe's doing, but it's nice that
she had a good thought.
Oh, how sweet.
Yeah, how cute.
SPEAKER_01 (02:21):
As they say, she's pretty.
Yeah, yeah, isn't that adorable?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (02:26):
That's awesome.
And so you went from uh YouTubevideos to how do you get from
YouTube videos of making um guncleaning videos in your kitchen
to carbon TV?
SPEAKER_02 (02:38):
Well, I mean, that was kind of just a l cute
little, you know, kind of oh,let's see what see what happens
here.
Um, I was already in theindustry at the time.
I had a number of different TVshows, and I was producing
different TV shows andcommercials at the time.
Um, but you know, that was justkind of me going, hey, you know
what else would be cool?
Let me set this camera up in thekitchen.
Um so yeah, I had a history, youknow, in the industry of
(03:01):
producing a lot of you knowcontent, you know, in different
forms.
And um, so then I kind of juststarted transitioning over to
more of a corporate role whenCarbon TV needed an you know new
leadership to come in.
Um so Carbon TV already existed.
It was founded by you know ouroriginal founder, and when they
went through kind of anacquisition back in 2017, they
(03:22):
really just needed leadership tocome in.
So that's when I entered, youknow, into the picture.
SPEAKER_00 (03:27):
So you've you've actually like pretty much done
everything.
SPEAKER_02 (03:31):
All of it, for yeah.
I was my I got my startvolunteering as a cameraman.
SPEAKER_00 (03:35):
Really?
SPEAKER_02 (03:35):
Yeah, behind the camera, filming deep.
Yeah, I loved it.
I still volunteer as acameraman.
If my friends have tags, I'mlike, oh, I'll get my camera and
follow you around.
And you know, 20 years later,I'm still it's my favorite
thing.
I love it.
SPEAKER_00 (03:48):
So you know every aspect of the business.
SPEAKER_02 (03:50):
Yes, yeah, and I think that's what's really
helped carbon succeed is thatyou know, we have over 300 uh
producers that we license anddistribute content from.
So it's a lot of people who arein the field, and this is what
they're passionate about.
Right.
So I have the honor of you knowrunning a company that allows
them to share that voice.
Um, but as a producer, I knowwhat's important in that world.
(04:13):
I know kind of you know howimportant it is to make your
sponsors happy and goodcommunication and fast upload
times, like all of the thingsthat make their lives a little
better.
And great content.
Yeah, and great content andfeedback.
And um, yeah, so I think thatthe fact that I did live that on
that side of the fence for solong, so many years, has given
(04:35):
me a deep connection to theproducers, and honestly, without
them, we would be nothing.
Like with the company wouldn'texist if we didn't have all of
those amazing people out therecreating their content.
That's awesome.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:47):
So last uh two weeks ago, I actually met you at
Dallas Safari Club.
Yeah, and um, you were the guestspeaker.
I was, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (04:54):
It was so great.
Yeah, they um I I work with alot of the conservation
organizations in different ways,and a lot of times they ask me
to come in and give a littlespeech.
Um, and at that one, I wasspeaking at their ladies'
luncheon, which is always a hootfor anyone who's never been to
ladies' luncheons at theseevents.
They're so much fun.
No one walks in that room in abad mood.
You know, they're all there tosee old friends and meet new
(05:16):
people and network, and youknow, the auction items raise
money for good causes.
And so I gave um just a shortspeech at the luncheons.
You try to keep it short andsweet because they want to get
to the fun part.
So I did my best to, you know,consolidate everything.
Um, but yeah, it was reallygreat.
I kind of just talked a littlebit about you know empowering
females in this industry.
(05:37):
Um, you know, I've beenfortunate to be doing this for
quite a long time.
I'm aging myself here, but likea long time.
And back in the day I rememberthere weren't many women.
You know, I would come to ShotShow almost 20 years ago, and
there it was rare to see femaleswalking around.
And I love that now we've kindof gotten to the point where
(05:58):
it's it would be weird not tosee a bunch of women walking
around.
Yes, like and very intelligent,successful, talented women who
know what they're doing and whohave really built great careers
in this industry.
Yes.
Um, yeah, so I gave a littlespeech on kind of my journey, I
guess, and witnessing that andtrying to be a part of it in a
positive way.
(06:18):
Um, you know, like I I think atthat at that luncheon, one of
the things I said was when Itook over Carbon TV, I was the
only female working at thatcompany.
Right.
It was all men, and they arewonderful men, like they're
smarter than I am for sure, andthey do such an excellent job.
But I knew that it was alsoimportant to start hiring
(06:39):
females.
Um, so we have a 50-50 workforcenow.
So I have a lot of intelligent,amazing women who work with us
at Carbon.
That's great.
It's like it's incredible, andthey bring so much value to the
table.
They see things through adifferent lens.
Um, and then the men who stillwork with me, you know, after
all these years at Carbon, um, Ithink that they they also like
(07:00):
that.
You know, now it just feels alittle more balanced.
It kind of brings a you know afeminine touch to the company in
some ways, which is nice.
Um, so yeah, it's that's that'sreally cool to me to be a part
of that.
And absolutely and to watch itgrow, and to watch it grow,
yeah, and to be a part of thatpositive growth.
Um and then just throughout theindustry, you know, there's a
(07:20):
lot of great women'sorganizations, um, you know,
women's camps, training classes,you know, specifically for
women.
Um, I'm on um the board ofdirectors for the Ruby Mayflower
Blake Legacy Fund through theWild Sheep Foundation, which
empowers women to heal throughnature after traumatic um
situations in life.
Oh, that's awesome.
(07:41):
So just a lot of really coolthings like that that you know
over the years it's beenbuilding all of this momentum to
create such a great space forladies who just love the
outdoors.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
What's the coolest hunt or adventure you've been
on?
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
Oh man, that's such a tough question.
I've been so lucky.
I have been I have been so luckyover the years to get to do some
really incredible things.
Um usually it's about who's withyou, you know.
Um back in the day I would havenamed my biggest animal or, you
know, like my first year, um,which those are still super
(08:17):
special, um, you know, and andgreat memories.
But now the older I get, it'swho who do I get to go spend
time with, you know.
Um every year I try to do atleast a hunt with my best friend
Jana Waller, who everyone knowsand loves.
And I cherish those moments.
You never know when it could beyour last time in the field with
the people you love most.
(08:38):
Um my fiance is a houndsman, soevery day when we go hunt
together and take the dogs andthe mules, that's my favorite
day every day.
You know, like it turns into thefavorite moment as it moves
forward.
SPEAKER_00 (08:51):
And isn't that true when you're out in nature, when
you're it's almost like thecamaraderie, the connection is
more intense.
SPEAKER_02 (09:00):
It is, yeah.
And I think the older we get,the more we cherish those
moments.
Um, it's not about filling tags,you know.
It's and I always say I did notbuild my career on filling a lot
of tags in this industry.
I I built my career on having agood time and telling stories,
you know, like there's hope forme.
It's so true.
(09:20):
And and I I've tried to keepthat kind of that mindset of,
you know, people just they wantto hear good stories, and that
we're all storytellers at thecore, you know, in our different
ways.
And for me, that's a big part ofwhat I hope is my legacy is
encouraging people to tell thosestories and to to really be in
the moment when they're in thefield with the people they love
(09:41):
most, and then pass thosestories down.
SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
That's beautiful.
Um I think it's important notonly to get women in but to have
great uh adventures, um, butalso like with kids and and um
you know, the whole these arewhole family events.
SPEAKER_02 (09:58):
Yeah, but yeah, it really is important, and you
know, all of the studies saythat if the mother in the
household is a hunter or ashooter, whatever it is, the
kids are so much more likely tofollow down that path as well.
Um so when we're working with,you know, encouraging women to
get outdoors or encouraging themto feel more confident, you
know, doing whatever that hobbyis that they want to do, um, you
(10:19):
know, to also feel good aboutyou know educating their kids as
they're as they're going to soyeah, I think um you know
there's a lot of great kidsorganizations.
We've tried to do a lot of workwith them as well over the
years, and and that's justspecial, you know.
Anytime you see a kid light upwhen they hear a turkey gobble
or you know, see a deer, youknow, out in the wild, it's just
(10:40):
there's something really specialabout that.
And I don't know if peopleoutside of our community it
would understand it fully untilthey get to witness it
themselves.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:51):
Deb says if you teach a woman to hunt, she
brings food and she also teachesher children.
SPEAKER_02 (10:57):
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:59):
And and that is pretty true.
SPEAKER_02 (11:00):
Yeah, and it and it can even branch outside of
hunting.
You know, you could say the samething about um, you know,
shooting or you know,marksmanship or archery, um, you
know, even just going for hikesand appreciating, you know, the
level habitat or the wildlife,you know, just kind of having
that deep appreciation for it ispassed down generationally.
(11:22):
And I think, you know, we're atthat point now where it's it's
more accepted.
We've normalized theconversation around, you know,
women can do all the same thingsthat men can do for the most
part.
Right.
And yeah, so it's it's beenreally fun just kind of seeing
that transition where it's not ataboo to see you know women
setting up their own camp andthere are no men.
SPEAKER_01 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think as as women we'remuch better at sharing it with
friends, whereas men, if theyhave a friend who has never shot
before, they're probably gonnabe like, yeah, go with me.
No, I'm not gonna go.
Okay, whatever.
Whereas women were like, no,come with me.
Like, here's why.
So it's generational, but likelinear as well, because we're
spreading it to other friends,females, different ages, because
(12:06):
you can get into it at any age.
SPEAKER_02 (12:07):
Yeah, absolutely.
I I totally agree with that.
Sometimes with men, I think thatyou know they can be discouraged
a little easier, but um withwomen, I just I know so many uh
amazing women who've reallycreated safe places for other
women to come learn and you knowjust kind of be a part of it.
Even if they're not intohunting, that's okay.
(12:28):
You know, they can still be apart of our girl group where you
know kind of you're learningdifferent skills in the outdoors
that can you know kind oftranslate to different uh ways
to appreciate nature.
SPEAKER_00 (12:39):
And it's more of a camaraderie.
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
So as far as future stuff goes.
SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
Yeah, future stuff.
I you know, it's so funny, likeevery year it just keeps getting
better.
And I I probably sound like acrazy person saying that, like
I'm oh, she's you know, likejust being too positive and
whatever, but it just keepsgetting better, and I'm so
excited to see what's comingnext.
Um, Carbon TV's doing great, andI'm excited for that because
(13:09):
it's my baby.
You know, I I love thatbusiness, I love every person
who we work with.
Um, I have you know, personalconversations with all of the
producers, just checking in onthem, seeing how they're doing,
and um, so I think there's somereally big things in store as
far as the content side of whatwe're doing.
Um, you know, we're making somereally cool moves.
Um, one cool thing is we'vediversified our content library
(13:32):
to go outside of you knowhunting and fishing.
So anything that happensoutdoors, we're interested in
it.
So that could be you knowcooking shows, aviation,
survival, overall.
Scuba, scuba, we need to getsome scuba TV shows.
That's a great idea.
Yes, scuba's scuba.
Yeah, see?
Yeah, okay.
I'm in it, I'm in.
I I just think that like one ofthe coolest things is when you
(13:54):
go to carbon now, it's not justto watch hunting shows, which
are still important to us.
Don't get me wrong, like that isstill a massive part of what we
do.
Um, but there's a crossoveraudience with everything else
that happens outside.
And we figure somebody who lovesagriculture probably also loves
hunting or fishing.
So I'm excited about that.
(14:15):
I'm excited to kind of um expandour audience, um, expand our
producer base.
So we're inviting more shows in,you know, more people to work
with.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
Um, yeah, it's and I see, I mean, you have TV, you
have, you know, movies,podcasts, you know, I mean, you
kind of have everything rightthere.
SPEAKER_02 (14:34):
Everything right there, yeah.
Um, we so obviously episodiccontent is you know still the
main part of what we do.
Um, we have a ton of um shortfilms, documentaries, live
cameras, live wildlife camerasare so cool.
Yes, I saw that.
Yeah, I have a theory thatnobody actually works, they just
sit there and watch live camerasall the time.
SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Oh my gosh, that is so true.
Yeah when um the giraffe washaving the baby.
I remember my coworker was yeah,that's all she was.
Yeah, right, yeah, and then shewas sleeping.
One morning I was up watching,and I just kind of looked at it
real quick.
Yeah, and I'm like, I actuallycalled her.
I'm like, she's having the baby.
Oh my gosh.
She goes, Oh my gosh, thank youso much.
(15:15):
You know, that's so cool.
SPEAKER_02 (15:16):
I'm like, it's happening right now.
Oh my gosh, I love that.
That that is so cool.
We see the coolest stuff onthose cameras.
Um, we used to have a live eaglecam, um, and it was literally
looking down into an eagle nest.
And the stuff that this momwould bring the baby eagles is
crazy.
She'd show up with a turtle, youknow, and just like the most
random and I'm going.
(15:37):
We're we're being educated rightnow on eagle.
Yes, that is such a cool thing.
Yes.
Um, yeah, so I I think peoplejust stream those all the time.
And I love them.
We're looking for more livecameras.
You know, we're just constantlythinking, okay, what else would
people want to see?
And then we just learned.
SPEAKER_00 (15:52):
If you would like to put a live camera in my house,
it is chaos.
SPEAKER_02 (15:55):
Yeah.
I know.
Well, my biggest thing, I wantto, I want to give a I want to
get a puppy camp, you know, soyou want to watch puppies all
day.
SPEAKER_01 (16:05):
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02 (16:06):
I mean, look how successful puppy bowl is.
Totally.
Yeah.
That's but it's like one of mybig professional goals is to
eventually have a puppy cameraon carbon.
Yes, makes sense.
Yes, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
I have the person, I have theperson.
SPEAKER_02 (16:21):
Okay, yeah.
Just you just send me in theright direction, we'll make it
happen.
SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
That's so cool.
Um and when I was I was checkingeverything out, I was just like,
oh my gosh, this is amazing.
All your content is uh sodiverse.
SPEAKER_02 (16:35):
Yeah, it is, yeah.
And it's you know, even when Igo on, I you'd think I would
know everything that's on thenetwork.
I'm surprised.
There's a ton of stuff.
Oh yeah.
I found a like a uh snakewrangling show on there once,
and I was like, when did thishappen?
unknown (16:49):
This is crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (16:50):
Oh my gosh.
I didn't know.
Like I'm in it, I'm invested,but this is different.
Like now I have to binge watchthe whole thing, you know.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:57):
No work is gonna get done.
SPEAKER_02 (16:58):
Yeah, there's some really cool stuff on there.
And a lot of the it's coolbecause a lot of the shows that,
you know, like back when I wason the network, you know, way
back in the day, a lot of theshows that aired on the same
network back then are now overon carbon TV.
So I'm seeing a lot of thattransition over to the digital
side, which is really fun.
SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
So how does that uh compare?
SPEAKER_02 (17:21):
Well, I don't know very many people who have cable
TV anymore.
So I mean I hate to I hate to bethe one to you know say it out
loud, but my dad does, you know,he has cable TV and I know he
still watches it, but I don'tknow anyone else who does.
So for us, it's been that's beena good thing.
People want to cut the cablecord, they don't want to pay you
know a crazy amount of moneyjust or stuff that they don't
(17:44):
watch, right?
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
Right, because it's crap.
SPEAKER_02 (17:47):
Yeah, that's gonna be our new advertisement.
You're welcome.
unknown (17:51):
Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
I need that.
That's gonna be our new soundbite when we're advertising
carbon TV.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:59):
You can use it.
Yeah, thank you.
Because it's true.
I mean, otherwise you can haveall these different
subscriptions to content thatyou actually want and care about
versus watching reruns of thesame one season that TBS bought
of Big Bang.
SPEAKER_02 (18:11):
Absolutely.
And with carbon, and we don'tcharge anything.
That's one common misconceptionis that there's even a
subscription.
We don't have a subscriptionmodel.
Anyone can just watch it all thetime anywhere.
SPEAKER_00 (18:21):
Yeah, I was watching it.
SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
But like literally, you don't have to sign in or
anything.
We love it, we'd love if yousign in because then you know we
can start recommending thingsthat you might like or
understanding your use.
Okay.
Yeah, so it's cool for people tolog in, but we don't require it
by any means.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, it's totally freeto watch and it's everywhere.
So even if you just go toWalmart and buy a new smart TV,
(18:43):
we're preloaded in thatsoftware.
So it's everywhere.
Oh my gosh, when I get home, I'mgonna download it.
Yeah, if you have a Visio, aSamsung or LG TV television,
uh-huh right there already onit.
SPEAKER_01 (18:55):
I have a Visio.
SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
Yeah, and it's on it.
Yeah, it's preloaded in yoursoftware.
Is that so cool?
SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
This is so cool.
I'm literally all the TVs in thehouse are gonna have it
downloaded.
I'm gonna see spikes in all myreports.
I'm like, oh, I wonder how thathappened.
SPEAKER_02 (19:09):
Yeah, oh I'm gonna make it map are just gonna go,
right?
Yeah, I know it's like my mybestie Jana.
She'll go to like, you know, thetire shop to get new tires, and
she'll walk in and put carbon onthe TV forum.
And I'm like, yeah, girl, that'swhat that's a great idea.
So like every place of businessyou walk in, just like put it on
(19:32):
their TV because people don'teven know how great it is.
Right.
It's so cool.
That's great advertisement.
Yeah, yeah.
I know.
We all need a bestie like that.
It's like that grassrootseffort.
Yeah, she's just walking topeople's houses putting it on
their TV.
SPEAKER_00 (19:45):
Super Bowl?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (19:47):
Yeah, no, not in this world.
No, it's carving TV all thetime.
unknown (19:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
That's so cool.
unknown (19:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Oh, that's pretty cool.
As far as the the productionside of it, like how do you go
from film to digital?
SPEAKER_02 (20:00):
Um, so from film like on network, yeah.
It's really simple.
So as long as the content youknow, creator owns that content,
if it even if it's aired on anetwork, you know, or 22 and a
half minutes and whatever, andit doesn't have commercials in
it, if we bring them on tocarbon, you can literally just
put it right on carbon TV.
(20:20):
So our upload system looks a lotlike YouTube.
So basically, if you have thosevideo files and we have a deal
with you where you know,licensing agreement, you just
woke upload all of it to carbon,just like you would YouTube.
SPEAKER_00 (20:31):
That's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
It's so cool.
Yeah, yeah, we made it reallyeasy.
Easy.
Yeah, the the guys who work atcarbon are way smarter than
anyone else I know.
They just they made it so easyand you know really
user-friendly.
SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
So are you looking for content or we're always
looking for content?
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
I was just gonna ask that.
Like if somebody out there hascontent that they're doing, you
know, is there an applicationprocess?
SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
Yeah, um, there there is actually.
We have a content acquisitionteam.
Um, and you can actually go tothe Carbon TV website and just
there's a little thing on therewhere you can find it pretty
easy, just like submit yourcontent.
Um, and I it actually comes tome.
So I personally and my VP got anin AF, right?
Yeah.
You know someone.
SPEAKER_00 (21:15):
We're gonna upload the content from this week and
you're gonna be like, no.
SPEAKER_02 (21:21):
Somebody pulled a plug.
SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
Who let these women on our website?
Either that, or you're gonna belike, yes, the animal cameras go
in their houses.
SPEAKER_02 (21:28):
Right?
Yeah.
Again, we're gonna see all thosereports spike.
Yeah, just like massive spikeseverywhere.
Yeah, so so literally people cansubmit their, you know, it's
like an application basically.
Um, and then my uh vicepresident Autumn, um, she heads
up the content acquisition.
SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
Oh, and I have her information too.
SPEAKER_02 (21:49):
So if you know Autumn, it's even better than
knowing me.
SPEAKER_00 (21:52):
That girl's a No, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (21:54):
She handles a lot.
I I would die without that girl.
Um so Autumn and I both.
Take a look at everything thatcomes in, all the content that
people are submitting, saying,like, hey, you know, I wanna I
wanna start a show, and this ismy idea.
And we, you know, typicallythey'll have like at least an
episode or two for us to lookat.
Um, but we don't accept all ofit.
So sometimes we do rejectsomething that comes in because
(22:17):
either capacity, it's just not agood fit for the library, maybe
production value, you know,isn't there.
SPEAKER_01 (22:23):
So because I was gonna say that there's gotta be
certain specs you have to havefor I mean, digital is one
thing, but actual television,right?
You have to have certain specs.
SPEAKER_02 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah.
So that is one, you know, onething that we'll probably keep
in place forever, just thequality control for brand
safety, um, which to me isreally important.
You know, we have for anycompany in this.
Yes, it is, yeah.
And you know, YouTube has theirown thing going on over there.
SPEAKER_01 (22:46):
You don't want to be Tribe TV.
SPEAKER_02 (22:47):
Right, yeah.
Bingo.
Another sound bite I'm gonnaneed from you.
SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
So I'll give you my card after.
Yeah, this is like I doconsulting.
Yeah, this is like marketing 101going on in here today.
SPEAKER_02 (23:02):
Yeah, but it's true, you're absolutely right.
Like, I we want to keep thatbrand safety quality control
because we have advertisers, youknow, on carbon, and we're proud
to work with all thoseadvertisers.
And for them, I want their adsto run around good quality
content, you know, like theydeserve that.
And so, yeah, we're just youknow, but we are always looking
for new shows to come on.
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
Yeah, perfect.
Well, um, I think we have acouple for you.
SPEAKER_01 (23:28):
Awesome.
Yeah, so we're gonna start ourown reality show.
I mean, now now on the queue, wehave to do an after dark, after
hours podcast.
Yes, because I feel like there'scontent there, and now our own
reality show.
I like frolicking out.
I like it.
I'm in.
Yeah, accepted.
SPEAKER_02 (23:45):
What are we gonna do?
SPEAKER_00 (23:48):
It's been so great having you on.
SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
Oh, thanks.
SPEAKER_00 (23:51):
And and uh, you know, like I say, it was uh when
I heard you uh a couple weeksago, I was just like, oh my
gosh.
And I wanted to come over andtalk to you.
I'm so glad I I well I wasn'tstalking, but it just so
happened that we were walking inthe same direction.
Yeah.
I was like, oh my gosh, pinchme.
Julie McQueen's coming on.
(24:11):
Oh my gosh, that's so cute.
unknown (24:13):
That's adorable.
SPEAKER_00 (24:15):
So thank you for for being here and allowing me to
fangirl a little bit.
SPEAKER_02 (24:18):
Oh my gosh, I'm fangirling now too.
I just want to hide in this roomwhile you're interviewing other
people and make comments fromthe back.
It is touched.
Yeah, I feel like that's smart.
SPEAKER_00 (24:27):
Okay.
Yes, we're gonna put how muchtime in the corner.
No, I was I was thinking likeshe could just have a stool here
and we could give her thatmicrophone and she could just
why not?
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
Yeah, I'll just I'll just randomly pop in when I see
you interviewing people and justwalk in.
SPEAKER_00 (24:40):
Okay, make sure you have the microphone in.
SPEAKER_02 (24:42):
I'll make it real awkward.
It's gonna be great.
SPEAKER_00 (24:44):
Oh my gosh, we love that.
There's been so many it's thepoor guy, the last guy that was
in here, he's like, I'm so gladI'm Asian because I would be red
right now.
SPEAKER_01 (24:56):
Yeah, when we were on with primary arms, like there
were just so many things like,wow, this has already gone
downhill.
Like, I mean, it was a fantasticpodcast, but we just like went
off the rails.
SPEAKER_02 (25:06):
That's how you know it's a good podcast, right?
No one's gonna be fastforwarding through like hanging
on the edge of their seat.
Like, what are they gonna donext?
unknown (25:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:17):
Again, thank you for coming on our podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (25:19):
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, this has been so much fun.
SPEAKER_00 (25:21):
Thank you.
Yeah, have a great show.
SPEAKER_02 (25:22):
Oh, thank you.
You too.
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