Another Side of Midnight With Lionel - COVID-19 Conspiracy Theories and the Unites States Being a Surveillance State

On Todays Program on Other Side of Midnight With Lionel, as He Does Critiques Modern Society’s for Lack of Intellectual Curiosity and Historical Literacy. Lionel Argues About How People Are Open Arm to Surveillance in Public. Then He Shifts Gears to Were He Challenges Callers to Define Political Ideologies Like Communism. Ultimately Accusing the General Public of Relying on Uninformed Slogans and Confirmation Bias.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
N Loan.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I know I knowne long, I know I know Li Lo,
I known a long line, I know my long Eelan.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I know I know nobody lined up with you. This
is another side of midnight. I was explaining to a
friend of mine what that meant, and I said, I'm
not really sure, but it's it's two in the morning

(00:47):
and it's past midnight, and I guess it's the other side.
I'm really sure what it denotes. I think I think
there might be maybe perhaps the the hour or the
time might be that we're discussing something that's of a
different nature, a different a different perspective, a different focus,

(01:08):
something that cannot be normally heard during during normal hours
when people are paying attention, when people are are more serious. We'll, uh,
we'll wait till later for that. We'll we'll talk about
that later, not now. Get back with me after midnight
and then we'll we'll discuss it then. It's appropriate then,

(01:29):
but not now. I'm not really sure, but I think
I understand it. But I think I do. During the
course of this our great steward, a great steward, mister
William nature boy Lee, of course, who is who is
pushing buttons that no one can understand. Plays a series

(01:52):
of music too, remind us that we're on the air.
It's very good to have that you have. I work
with one fellow who did not play any music during
for bumper music, so you never knew we were on
the air. Off the air, it was. It was nerve wracking.
But but William always does a very good job to
let us know, and he always plays sometimes this version
of Marvin Gay's What's going On? I thought, how perfect

(02:15):
that is? How perfect. Al Sharpton one time had had
a radio show locally that three people listen to. Most
of them were on. The show itself is called He
called it keeping it Real. I didn't even know what
that meant either. Keeping it real. He thought it meant something.

(02:36):
This is the show where the late and not so
great don Imus walked in hat in hand and begged
forgiveness from Al Sharp and to allow him to continue
his his his his apologia, apparently for saying that terrible
Rutgers comment or something. He had to go not to

(03:00):
the families per se, but to go to Al Sharpton.
He went to Al Sharpton, mister tough guy, and ask
for forgiveness which was one of the lowest moments in
American history. But I like that keeping it real. So
I don't know what best subscribes us, but I will
tell you that if I if I were to explain

(03:25):
ideally what I would like today's topic to be or
the name of it, would be scaring the hell out
of you, because you know, what I want to talk
about is something that cannot necessarily be corrected. Everything else
can be corrected. You'll hear people talk about Islamism and
discourage of Islamism, or radical left philosophy that could theoretically

(03:50):
be corrected once you were to, let's say, remove Islamists
or remove You could theoretically remove a radical leftist. I
don't know how you would, but you could if you
wanted to. If you could, you could remove them. But
what I'm about to discuss you cannot remove. It's here,
and it was here under the nose of the American

(04:11):
people who frankly never understood it and still don't. What
am I talking about? Monday, I believe Monday, I thought
about the name of Tucker Carlson, who was in the
midst of perhaps constructing a third party. It was a
third party, and he is driving people crazy because how

(04:33):
dare he is a third party? I suggest we need
a second party because we don't have a two party system.
We have one party, we have a uni party, and
we have some with slight variations of differences. But it's
say Carol quickly said in Tragedy and Hope, we have
two it's the illusion of the left right paradigm. It's

(04:56):
two sides of the same coin, Dia Cooke, Diapepsi. It's
basically the same. But he's going to have on. Tucker
Crosson has a fellow named Kim dot Com and I
don't know if you've heard of him, but he's very
difficult to understand, very difficult. This is Kim dot com
most most difficult to understand. And what's interesting about this

(05:19):
is that he has this accent which is very difficult.
But they spoke about something which is very very critical.
And what the Kim dot com interview with Tucker cross
and drives home and what we will hear is something
most Americans still struggle to comprehend. And this is very
simple that modern surveillance does not require kind of this

(05:42):
nineteen eighty four Orwillian dystopian model of somebody sitting in
a government building listening to your telephone calls. That was
the conversation. Remember that, Gene Hackman. It's a great Coppola
movie with the great John Kazal and the great movies.
Surveillance today is automated, interconnected, and is everywhere. It is

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capable of reconstructing enormous portions of your life. Your phone
records connected to cell towers, Apps collect information, your car
generates electronic data, credit cards, document purchases, search engines. Remember

(06:36):
what interests you. Social media companies know who you communicate
with and what keeps your attention. And then cloud services
will preserve years, decades and decades of photographs, messages, documents,

(07:00):
personal history. Then consider flock cameras. Have you heard anybody
talk about that? Have you heard anybody discuss says, oh,
this is a good one. Flock Safety's automated license plate
reader cameras are used by police departments, of course, and
the neighborhoods and businesses and other organizations around the country.

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And what they do is they photograph vehicles, they re
license plates and create searchable records that can help authorities
theoretically determine where a particular vehicle has traveled. One camera
may seem, you know, rather vernoculous. Thousands of interconnected cameras
create something so different, so frightening, a potentially beyond powerful

(07:53):
map of human movement. Yours. You're going to be on
a twenty four seven panopticon. This is, of course, this,
this is this wonderful idea of the economy. This this
Malthusian benthamesque you know, this is where they will put

(08:14):
the idea in a prison to guard tower in the
middle of a pod, and then the prison would be circular,
so you would always be able to see all aspects
of all of the cells. You're in a panopticon. And
let's say you drove to a political rally, we went
to a church, we went to a psychiatrist, a gun store,

(08:37):
a divorce lawyer, some lefty journalists home. None of those
activities necessarily means anything you know, sinister or wrong, whatever,
But taken together, I can use location information and can
tell this incredibly extraordinarily revealing story about you. And government,
by the way, doesn't necessarily have to collect every piece

(08:59):
of itself. No, No, private companies collect vast, vast quantities first,
and then authorities can then come along, and they can
obtain different categories of data through warrants and subpoenas and
court orders and intel authorities. And the astonishing part of
all this is how little people seem to care. They

(09:20):
just don't care. It doesn't bother them. I am one
of these people who, for some reason, am not affected
my coffee. I can drink coffee before I go to bed.
Coffee doesn't keep me up, It doesn't. I don't know
why it doesn't affect me. That's how American people are.

(09:41):
Doesn't bother them. We trained privacy for convenience, one click
at a time. You want navigation, Oh, come on, GPS
is fantastic, Come on? Whatever is they go? Okay, okay?
How about doorbell ring cameras? Aren't they great? You can
watch your home at all times?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Isn't that facial recognition? Smart cars? Smartphones? By the way,
anytime it's either word smart, run from it. Free applications
with an expression that says when the application is free,
you're the product. And people say I have nothing to hide.

(10:23):
Wrong question. Privacy is not about hiding wrongdoing. It's about
It's about maintaining your ability to live your life without
every movement becoming a permanent searchable data point. We are

(10:46):
in the surveillance state, and the surveillance state didn't necessarily
arrive wearing you know Jack Boots or you know commy communists.
It arrived promising convenience. It's gonna help us. And what
we do is we just click accept, accept, Accept. We

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don't understand anything of it, And if you try to
explain this to them, it's something which is And by
the way, it goes back to a lot of other
things too. We're living in the world right now, and
I think I'm probably saying this, maybe since the beginning
of time. Maybe's the beginning of time people have been
saying this. So I'm not saying anything really new, you know,

(11:35):
fortunately or unfortunately or whatever. But I'm probably saying this.
But it never ceases to amaze me how I hear
things that are just absolutely it blows my mind, absolutely
blows my mind. I heard something the other day and

(11:58):
it was on it I don't watched this channel, but
it was on a YouTube piece of somebody put together
and it was from somebody on Fox News. I'm not
gonna mention the name, not that it matters. And this
person I would just say, had absolutely no idea of
what he was saying. None, absolutely none, But it was
a populist idea. It sounded great. And I've heard this before.

(12:21):
Don't ruffle the feathers of the audience. Give them what
they want to know. Say the things that make the
most sense. Don't push it, don't force your hand, just
say what people want. And the question came up the
other day of children. This is a reference to what
my wife normally does Lynd's Warriors about children and their

(12:47):
safety and their surveillance and the like. And the notion
was that was brought up was it's the parent's fault.
Have you heard this? It's up to the parents, it's
the parents reponsibility. And if I thought to myself, how
much did big tech pay this jadrool to say this?

(13:09):
And it's a popular it's a popular concept, and so
I don't I realize sometimes what am I getting upset about?
Why do you get God, don't get upset, relax, take
it easy. Doesn't even understand the issue. Here's one for you.
I've completely given up this one. If I hear one

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more person refer to Zoran mom Donnie whose name nobody
can pronounce, it correctly as a communist. I'm gonna climb
a bell tower if you said down and say, here's
a pencil and paper, here's one thousand dollars, define communism,

(13:55):
get even close to it, and the money's yours. Nobody
could do it. Nobody. We say things, we think things,
we repeat things, and we love to pretend as though
and we're going to be talking about this, how the
idea of the collective the as long as you say
things that are repeated within members of the crew, members

(14:18):
of the tribe, you are happy. So let me just
explain some to you. This is going to be the
show about warning and a lot of this is I
hate to say it's too late because we were asleep
at the switch, but at least we know right now. See,
we always love to pretend that we care for a
little bit of a little bit at the time. Sometimes
we care about vaccines, sometimes we care about autism. Sometimes

(14:41):
you care about JFK or UFOs. And then we get
tired and we forget and we move on this. We
cannot move on over. Our number is eight hundred eight
four eight nine two to two two. I would so
love to talk to you, especially our younger audience members
who share with me the dread of a dystopian society.

(15:04):
This is a Linel with you on Another Side of Midnight.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
The Other Side of Midnight with Lionel on the Red
Apple Podcast Network.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
One of the most amazingly fascinating song stories in the
history of American history. This was This is, of Course
Louis Louis by the Kingsman, by the Way, our own
nature boy, Bill Lee, this knows the words to this.
This was considered one of the most filthy songs that

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nobody understood. Absolutely nobody understood. They just thought for res
I don't know, they just thought it was obscene. At
least we cared in those days. At least today it's
another story. We just we just don't care. We are

(16:15):
dare I say that word is insussient. We're like, eh
Wadding and the lady and there, come on, what are
you gonna do? That never was eight hundred eight four
eight nine two two two. I have a lot to discuss,
but right off the bat, I must tell you I
love when before as I begin, before I've said anything,
before I dare I say crack the mic, someone will

(16:36):
call in with a question. And I thought that's interesting.
They don't even know what I'm gonna talk about, and
it doesn't matter. For example, why Japan entered World War Two.
This is Dave in Pennsylvania. He worries about this.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Hello, Dave, you're.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
On the other side of Midnight with Lionel.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Why I'm going to you mean Pittsburb, Parist, New York.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Message day on behalf of the grateful nation. Thank you
so much, Jackson. That is the sound that I want
you to commit to your memory bank. I would rather
lick a hospital mop. I would rather lick a belt center.
I would rather drink bleach than listen to this seemingly

(17:25):
discontinuous rantings of a man that I thought had gone away,
but it was not. I'm very very open about people
are always entitled to their opinion. But this fellow, he
just wants to commandeer the show, and I think he
might want to call others as well. Jay in New Jersey, Jay,

(17:46):
you're on another side of Midnight with Lionel.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
Yay lieing a lot. As far as the definition of communism,
I think it's the religion of the malcontent, the religion
of destruction. Is trying to destroy any society in a
compl together any kind of man.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Not even close, not even with with all due respect,
with all due respect, with all due respect, when people
have felt it was an economic theory, you're viewing this. See,
it's like when they talk about capitalism as as that
and we say that's ridiculous. How is it defined.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
It's defined by the people that they get together anybody
who has a grievance against a certain group or class,
and they and they care to their their their grievances
and channel it towards destroying and building their own vision
of a utopia.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Not even not even remotely close, not even within, not
even in the ballpark. Let's try again, what is communism?
You're on your your there's an exam, and you want
to get an a and we're saying, no, listen, don't
give us your opinion. Tell us what it is, what
it's supposed to be theoretically. Let's try one more time.

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What is it?

Speaker 7 (19:04):
It's a religion, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's no, it's not even a religion. Now that's three times. Now,
Now have you given this any thought?

Speaker 7 (19:11):
My dear friend, this is this is a Yeah, I'll
giving him a lot of thought. I've read a lot, and.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
You've read a lot, and you've read somebody, and you've
read suggest somebody's sayings. And by the way, I am
I am absolutely in no wise interested in living in
a communist society. But I do know things about cancer.
I don't I don't want to get cancer either, but
I know what it is. So I don't you read

(19:37):
somebody say that communism is a religion.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Yeah, well, communism isn't just a bit economics. It's not
about anything. Communism is a really That's why you see
the people that are pro Palestine coming along with the
people that are you know, anti pro abortion, and you think.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
This, you think this is wait wait wait wait communism Palestine,
pro abortion, communism, work with me. Is a political right
and an economic, very important ideology that seeks what what
does this seek? A classless society which no, no, no, no, no,

(20:21):
this is no you're not you're not even Oh my god.
It seeks in which the major means of production. This
is what it is, such as you know, factories and
land and natural resources are owned collectively rather than privately.
This is the first sentence before we get to totalitarian

(20:44):
and Palestine. And this is before any of this stuff.
Then there's Marxist theory. What is that in? In Marxist theory,
communism is supposed to emerge after capitalism and socialism, and
then private ownership of you know, property disappears, economic classes disappear,

(21:05):
and eventually the state is supposed to kind of wither away.
So it's just it takes over. So I if you
want to, if you want to just say that about
a particular group of people that are wrong, just say it,
but don't call it communism, just like if you were
to call it, you know, and arco syndicalism. It's also

(21:30):
not that it might be wrong, but it's the wrong name.

Speaker 7 (21:34):
Lestism is communism line or it's the same things.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
No, it's not. Listen listen, Jay, Jay, listen Jay. I
appreciate this. Call me again, my friend, listen. I appreciate this.
And if and if you like this stuff, I am.
If you want to talk about how we are to
avoid communism and why it's very scary, yes, but not
that we have to stop with bumper sticker, playbook, cookie cutter, echo,

(22:05):
chamber drivel. It doesn't help. It makes a sound what's
the word stupid? And anybody listening to that says, it's
kind of know what he's talking about. He doesn't know
what he's talking about. It's just it's it's like I
remember one time we were talking for some reason, I
don't know why. The subject, interestingly enough, was cancer, and

(22:29):
people on a show called him and says a sugar
caused his cancer. And they just started making this a
what Well, I know it's good for you, sugar, sugar
is cancer, and I mean, they just it was a
kind of a cobbled together thing. I don't believe in
how do I say this, I don't believe in putting

(22:49):
together sloganeering as a as a kind of a political discourse.
That's the worst. It's absolutely the worst, because what it
is is it shows the world you don't know what
you're talking about. It doesn't mean we disagree with it
with the big picture. I talk to people all the
time Christians who've never not read the Bible as they

(23:13):
claim they have, which they never have, but they claim.
But the study of it, the problems, the confusion, the issues,
the the you know, there's just no study. We live
in this drive by, double parked world where we love
to say listen, I don't have time, but let me

(23:33):
put on my lapel pen. My lapel pen will tell
you who I am. What I wear around my neck
will tell you who I am. I don't have to
explain anything to you. I spend so much time listening
to people actual communists today or people who claim to be.

(23:57):
And there's this idea where people use the word left
and well, by the way, say people who use the
word right wing, and I'm thinking, what is right wing
about this? Well, he's a right he's a white supremacist.
What does that mean?

Speaker 8 (24:08):
You know?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
They're went to the sloganeer ring as well. You see
this is something which again you may love this. I
despise it. It is so anti intellectual, it is so wrong.
Let me give you an example of what we do.
This is important. This might be a bigger problem the

(24:30):
human behavior that we have is how do I say this?
It's much easier to understand if you learn the names
of a couple of concepts that I don't know if
it's psychologists or political theoreticians have comforable for this. But
you've heard of this before, and if you've paid any attention,

(24:50):
let me give you a couple of these and this
might help the First one that's very popular today. Have
you ever heard of the Dunning Krueger effect. I'm sure
you have. There are phrases with you sometimes like over
the window and uh comes razor, and well, the Dunning
Kruger effect. This is famous and it means this. People

(25:13):
with limited knowledge or limited ability in an area may
in fact dramatically overestimate their competence because they lack enough
expertise to recognize they don't know what the hell they're
talking about. Ironically, this is interesting. Genuinely knowledgeable people are

(25:38):
often more conscious of everything that they don't know. Take
that last caller. People with limited knowledge, let me say this,
this is the Dunning Kruger effect. People with limited knowledge
or the ability in it. Let's say a particular area
dramatically overestimate their competence in a particular area because they

(26:01):
lack enough expertise or knowledge to know they don't know
what the hell they're talking about. Does that make sense.
It's phenomenal that in order for you to be most
people who when you get involved with something, you realize, oh,
that's a that's a complex issue. Well that's not the
way it is. See, you'll meet some people and sometimes

(26:22):
they're experts in radio programming, or they are experts in
diet and you realize they don't know what they're talking about.
And the reason why you know they don't know what
they're talking about is that you know about the subject.
In order to understand something, you realize the complexity of it.
I get it all the time. Constitutional issues, legal issues, data, communism,

(26:44):
that's my favorite. Where this came from. You know, when
I was in school, we had this class called Problems
in American Democracy. I think you might have called it civics,
but we really had to spend time differentiating these ideas.
And you can call people a lot of things. Let

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me give you an example. Let me give you an example.
What the real word, the real term, by the way
that a lot of people recognize that Mom, Donnie and
others are trying to apply, is a welfare state. Whereas
what they will do is they will just give you
things where you don't have to pay back. We have
to worry about where it comes from. He doesn't want
to grab private ownership, private capital. He wants to make

(27:31):
it very difficult for people, that's for sure, But he
in no way is following anything even remotely similar to
what we would call communism. It's it's absolutely it's ridiculous.
Let me also say something about this what we do
in this country. If I could have Lionel's law. Lionel's
law or my doctrine is listen to your political adversary,

(27:54):
Listen to them. Listen. Everybody listens to people they agree with.
Television shows, radio shows, media shows are about people who
agree with the same thing. And you live in this
kind of like this echo chamber where you repeat what
everybody agrees, and after all you say, well it makes
sense to me, talk to somebody who disagrees, listen to them.

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The story right now, which is the most fascinating of
them all, which is so I follow this assiduously, dear friend,
and that is this idea of the WNBA and how
people are suggesting for the first time, I don't know
why that men can theoretically compete they can compete in

(28:45):
women's basketball. So what happens is recently two hulking actual
men have theoretically wink wink suggested that they identify as women,
and they are coming out. One is six', ten you,
know the fellow's last name Is. Freedom and there's another
one six' ten two hundred and fifty pounds absolute. Beard

(29:07):
men but, they're, saying, NO no i identify as a
WOMAN and i want to JOIN. The wnba and by their,
own reckoning the people who RUN the NBA, or wnba now,
they say what do? WE do, i say, excuse me
you just made. A policy these individuals are taking you up.

(29:28):
On it no. They're not, that's, no that's what. You
said so it's. It's now do most people care? About
this not really do most quote leftists. Believe, that, no, no,
no no not. At all, some do. But some but
it's it's in the. News today why is it in the?

(29:51):
News today first, of all the news does such. A
disservice the news fills you with. Junk food they love to.
Do anything these are regular sock puppet. Media types people
who are proxy, sock puppets people who are in the,
mainstream media institutional. Heritage media they're dying on. The vine

(30:14):
they're doing everything in their power to make sure that
they just keep going or keep aware of whatever, it
is so they will come up with anything to keep
this story in the in. The offing why because it,
gets clicks it, gets eyes because it's. So outrageous it's.
So ridiculous this thug warfare that's going on in THE
w nba has something to do with really providing the news.

(30:36):
For you it's just something they think will get. Your
attention is that the? Most, important no the world is teetering.
On collapse you. Cannot imagine that's not fun and that's.
Too complicated you want something that can be covered in
a minute to a minute and. A half that is

(30:57):
so obvious it gets a seral response immediately and it's easy.
To understand low. Hanging fruit you know the rest of.
The routine let's go To uh Anthony, Or anthony i'm.
Not Sure On, long island you're on another side of Midnight.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
With lionel. Thank you you could call Me, our ja you.
Call it it just doesn't has to Call, me johnson no,
A Line. Professor lionel let me just.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
SAY this i was. Just kidding you have a you
were born women with an ability to wax comedic that is.
So dangerous please don't ever abuse this power. Of yours,
thank you, go, Ahead sir Thank.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
You LIONEL and i would just like to thank you
for being patient with all your call all better understand
where we find ourselves on this.

Speaker 9 (31:46):
Very day, YOU know i don't know.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
Who, said IT but i think it's keep somebody than
it is to convince someone that they're. Being deceived, that,
yes yes now another venue. Or thought i've been thinking
about this a, long TIME and i would ask you
to did just think about? It yourself perhaps hold it
up to the light. Of day we don't have to

(32:09):
discuss it tonight two with Perhaps what, i'm Saying, But
Thranos Elizabeth, holmes toranos she came out with this blood,
testing thing her born. Of directors.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Uh is this there something with? THIS phone i did.
NOT understand i think it's. Your phone you might there's
something wrong with.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Your, phone, yes yes it's it's it's a, BAD connection, i.
Suppose sir, i'm.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Sorry indeed BECAUSE you're i don't hear half of what.
You're saying but What About, Elizabeth, Holmes, sir yes it's.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
It's like all. BLOGGED out i hear, It too it's
like an echo in. Our, Conversation well i'm.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Not that it's just all of a sudden you will
just will lose chunks of what. You're, saying anyway What
about Faranhos And, elizabeth holmes what.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
About it's break it. UP horribly i can't even make
out what, you're.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Saying sir you, know what when you, do this call,
me back tell. Me why let's try and give me,
a callback or try another, another, angle another another chance,
at this rather than us trying to dissect the particular
cause Of this tom In. The bronx you're on another
side of midnight With. A, Linel.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Well ionel how? ARE you i thought i'd give you
some inside information from a relationship With a RUSSIAN woman
i had for.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Many years and the, inside information what? Is inside what does?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
That, mean well it's PERSONAL that i was able to
pick up from years of knowing. THIS woman i asked
her once about nine to, one one do you? Have it, she.
Says dah, she palls and, she says sometimes they, show
up sometimes. They don't if you Listen to Radio, for
europe everybody snitched. On everybody her father would go into a,

(33:58):
dark room pull the, shades down close, the door hold
the radio up to his ear and listen to the
the Broadcasts Or Radio, free europe and that. Wasn't allowed if.
Anyone heard there was constant, fear everybody and as, a
result they're all a bunch. Of drunks they, all drink.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
They all let me something are we trying? To say
is this is THIS a i don't want to? Say
rusophobic is this a an attempt to Say about russia
or communism or?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Social communism what are the? People of? Good people it's?
The government and.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay are, you? There?

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Sir kill.

Speaker 10 (34:41):
Okay and so and listen.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
To that they. Had buildings they are Built. Under kushchev
They call.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Kushchev, houses okay on tom or what's you to be?
A favorite we all know this and, it's true standing
in line for? Toilet paper whatever? It is what way worse?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Than?

Speaker 6 (34:59):
That?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, wait wait what? Is thing let me try. This
again listen to, me, carefully SIR and i, ask you
what is the thesis? Behind this what is? Your point
is this? To show is this a communist station a
point or How bad? Russia was or what is the purpose?
Of this?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
This point dictatorship saw and whenever dictator, we had we
should put them into?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
The, graves women do you think that what you're talking
about is? A? Dictatorship?

Speaker 8 (35:30):
Yes okay?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Not communists?

Speaker 9 (35:33):
Did?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
You?

Speaker 10 (35:34):
Hey well not?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Not communist?

Speaker 3 (35:37):
All right communism and it's like, you said, you know
it's a it's a government. Collectively owned there's no, social
class which is crap because the people that, run everything
they they are. The elites uh they this. Collectivity crap
no one wants to. WORK hard i had been privileged

(35:58):
to meet a man that was From The. Borough ponds
he was a SCIENTIST and i Worked at. Ritis digest
he gave a lecture and he said that in, his
country if people, don't work your name goes on. A
list they, come around they knock on. Your, door yuri
why you don't come. To work the guy was a
nudge and, this people the husbands and wives don't work

(36:22):
in the. Same company they have to work at. Separate
companies they get separate vacations for fear that if they
go away as a couple they won't. Come back it is.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Okay again need to. DO this I know i'm not suggesting.
That anything but, for example if we've had dictators, and
fascists and nationally We've had Mussolini and Hitler and franco
and these are, Non, Communists, Uh, pinochet suarto just go down.

(36:52):
The list These aren't these. Aren't Communists, the Shah Theocratic saddam,
HU saying, i mean we can go down the list.
So Again and I'm and i'm not trying to, act
dents but my, question is what is the point. Of
this what you're saying, is true, it's terrible and there

(37:15):
have been cases of just Abject poverty haiti and you
know other places as, well.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well in the government in politics today that. Admire communism who?

Speaker 11 (37:29):
Is?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
That who There were there's some idiots There. In michigan what's?

Speaker 10 (37:34):
His?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Name uh do you think L si ed is? A?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Communist there, he, goes yeah He had wait.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait he's. A.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Communist, no no he. Admires communism might have you heard him.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Say He had wait, WAIT wait i. Stop it you're.
Just talking you're just. Feeling that wait, a minute you're
saying that he. Admires communism i've never heard.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
That ever he admires, the leaders He. Admires, no okay thanks, Very,
much tom have a, good.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Day, sir listen do me. A Favor and i'm not
trying To be i'm not trying to, be rude, of
COURSE but i just CAN'T and i cannot have people left,
right middle. Even communists if we could ever find him
a call up who just spews bumper. Sticker talk, it's

(38:24):
like you're almost they're not really, Sort of i'm not
sure what people. Are doing they know nothing about what
happened with THIS l. Si ed they don't know what.
He's saying they, don't understand and they don't want. To
know do you want to understand politics or do you

(38:46):
want to sit back and just complain until it kind of,
corrects itself if that makes any sense. To, you see
this is a problem that we have and we Love
to this. Is sloganeering we just say. These things it's
like this isn't. Helping anything we're not getting to the bottom.
Of this it's like when when people have you ever

(39:07):
heard about, people say, you know when we, were kids
we were we used to ride our bikes and kids
were not, as obese and, you, GO yeah i, like
that and we just. Repeat this it's like that's really,
not that that's part, of it but not. Even, close
YEAH but i like. That story i'm going to repeat.
That one let's Go, to anthony who was calling. Back

(39:29):
again you're on another side of Midnight. With lionel.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Thank you for accepting. My call so THE point i
was trying to make AND like, I said i, don't know,
you know this is a conspiracy theory totally on. My
part but we're dealing with a corporatetocracy that rules, by
emergency whereby they're they're facilitating all this this discontent in
our society on purpose with regard to profit cheering. And

(39:54):
faucis give an example an example, Of, that well they
create a virus and then release the the world and
then sell you the fix and they have.

Speaker 9 (40:03):
To stop for.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
A second stop for, A second hold on, a second,
hold on hold on for. A second are you suggesting
are you telling me make sure that we understand THIS
that covid was created artificially by either Corporation or china
or some other country artificially the. Old plandemic is that what, You're, saying.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Well Yes well i'm GOING like, i said this is a.
Conspiracy theory are, you, saying, wait, wait, wait wait stop for.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
A second it's not a conspiracy, Per se it's. A
theory So what i'm asking you is what is the
basis for your? Saying this tell me.

Speaker 11 (40:39):
Your, SOURCES well I know mRNA was entirely invested in with.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
HEDGE fund I, mean juliad the company that was behind
a lot. Of it it was in twenty ten that
they would dumping billions of dollars INTO the. mRNA technology so.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Let me stop you for, a second, Against sir i'm
not trying to be room. Or CRUDE if urna was
something which, was developed how does that necessarily MEAN that
covid was either manufactured or deliberately spread EVEN though mRNA
investores would benefit. From it make, the, connection.

Speaker 6 (41:21):
Well warp speed overnight to create a miracle cure for
something That, was.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Okay let me try this. Again again i'm not trying to.
Be rude, you said and you correct Me if. I'm
wrong you said that you believe that the whole NOTION
of COVID stars, covid two that this pan or pandemic was,
created artificially artificially in order to EITHER, sell mRNA and

(41:49):
then you bring up. Warp, speed now people, can profiteer people,
can profit people can work. Concommonly with whenever there are,
crime waves gun, sales go but the gun manufacturers didn't cause.
The crime this has cause. And effect this is correlation. Versus,
cause again for the third or, fourth time what is
your evidence that the that the THE the covid itself was, deliberately,

(42:15):
planned promulgated produced in order to to. To spread not
not that people benefited, from it the, mask company the adhesive,
strip company they they. Made money what is your evidence of? The,
plans well just.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
You look at where we Are and fauci having to
take the fifth over one. Hundred times let me try,
this again to try.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
This again let me try this. Again again you're not answering.
My question do you know why he took? The fifth
do you know why he took? The fifth would you
have taken? The fifth would you have advised him to take?
THE fifth i? Would absolutely this is His fifth amendment
right Under. The constitution. Last time let me try. That

(42:59):
again you don't unders. Again, Again, listen anthony thank you.
So much please call. Me again do you hear where?
We are and it's very interesting and it's not to,
be mean but people will just, say, things well, there's
this well you know he. Wanted, it okay does this
prove he started off with the IDEA that covid and by,
the way it could very well be and it's a

(43:19):
hypothesis that is not at all. Far fetched but what
is your evidence? Of, it well, you know people. Made
money it'll build gates and we're gonna. Throw gates this
his Name and fauci did this and warp speed and cause.
And effect this reminds me of the people who Comment

(43:41):
and i'm not going to do this with YOU because
i wouldn't dare put you. Through this But The tyler robinson,
sham trial that IS just, i mean you cannot believe
what's happening there and how people are forcing this cause
and effect kind of. A jumbling i believe in very.

(44:02):
SIMPLY this i have a lot, OF suspicions i have
a lot. OF concerns i have a LOT of i
don't know the beliefs. And proof. Different Story The Great
daniel patrick moynihan, once said everybody should committed. To memory
you're entitled to your own your own beliefs, and opinions
but not your. Own facts and the two are. Completely

(44:25):
different This is linel with You On another Side, Of Midnight.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
The other Side of Midnight with lionel On The Red Apple.
Podcast network, all right in.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
MY friends i number eight hundred eighty four eight nine to,
two two eight hundred eighty four eight nine two. TWO
two i don't know maybe maybe maybe you don't want to,
hear This maybe i'm addressing this the, Wrong WAY but
i think the complexity of things are far more interesting

(45:15):
than just saying, the well WHAT am i trying? To
say just. The rote let me give you an example
of something. Years ago one of the most, interesting stories
interesting plans ever that happened was folks who involved themselves
in what was Called the. Southern solution this so other strategy,

(45:38):
excuse me And the southern strategy was a way in
which are a ways by means of Which The republican
party at, the time not doing what it is as,
of late reached out To strom erman and others and
tried to bring people in under the tent or in

(45:58):
the tent who for the, longest time were found to
be wanting or to be dissatisfied with the. Democratic, machine
now if you sat back and looked, at this a
lot of the as you, would say lefties at, The,
time ah this is an example of the the right

(46:21):
wing a Bunch of nazis, is like wait, a minute
that's not. What happened it's more complicated. Than, that yeah
but that takes too much time for me. To speak
i'm just gonna say it. This way the Right wing
republicans they're fascists And they're nazis and. They're racists, again, no, no, no,
no no that's not. What happened well that'll do. FOR
me i don't have time to get into this. Complexity

(46:43):
stuff critical thinking is a way that is. MISSED completely
i was saying throughout the Entire mom donnie case to
friends and everybody that can know to, no avail listen
to what. He's saying listen to what people. Are saying,

(47:03):
you know in every other in every, other business if
you own a store or, a restaurant you always, ask
people what do? You think how did? We do can we?
Get you how would you rate, our service our? Food
quality we always, Do this but when it comes to the,
political message we. Never do. We don't we think that
politics is, just look, we're right and either you go

(47:26):
along with us, or not and if, you don't you're.
A Communist and i'm thinking, about like oh. My god
and the best part IS that I know i know
a COUPLE of i know. SOME socialists i Know, ONE
marxist i know who's Openly, a MARXIST and i know
a guy who might be, a communist well theoretically is
part of. The party he says. He's not but and

(47:47):
all of them take great umbrage at At mom dannie
because he's not even close to being. A socialist it's
not he's. Not there? Democratic socialist is this Watered Down
Scandinavian bernie sanders works terrific, in little tiny. Little countries

(48:09):
it's a story that if you wanted to, break down
it makes. No sense it also pretends to be a
lot of things that's not. Coming up self deception and
the collective hypnosis that we're putting ourselves in when it
comes to not, just politics but how we process information.
And theory this is going to be a, great tutorial,

(48:30):
my friends. Listen Carefully On another Side of Midnight With
Me lionel hour number two. Coming up Stay.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Tuned See other Side of Midnight with nyl On The

(49:02):
Red Apple. Podcast network, MY.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
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Speaker 12 (49:22):
Know, I know, I know, I know, LIE know, I,
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Speaker 1 (49:34):
I need Know already line Over you hour number two
of this Thing. Of Ours on another side Of it
night eight hundred and eight four eight nine two two
too Last hour, someone said you know, this, guy founcy
he Takes The? Fifth amendment.

Speaker 9 (49:51):
Do you know what.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
HAPPENS when i hear people? Say that do you do
you know what what happens to? MY soul, i said
you mean to tell me somebody dare to avail himself Of.
THE constitution i think, somebody said you know that, nature,
boy billy he Took The. First amendment, well, yeah yeah
but what does he have? To hide what we are,

(50:16):
so bereft, so absence so naked A fundamental american constitutional
rights that we say he Took The? Fifth amendment what
do you Think The fifth amendment was? There for SOMEWHERE
in i guess. Constitutional Heaven, jefferson madison, they're, screaming like

(50:40):
what are you? Talking, about yeah but that's such. Faucy
guy this is exactly what it's. There for if somebody,
called you and let's assume you were born after nineteen,
sixty three and said they want you to appear in
grand jury to testify regarding what you know ABOUT the,

(51:03):
Jfk assassination i'd say Take the fifth because they're setting.
You up they bring you in a, day one they
bring you on, Day two they bring you in on
day three and if your, testimony varies. That's perjury you're being.
Set up this is what. It's about, but, no, no, no, no,

(51:24):
no people people don't know what you're. Talking about what
are you? Talking about this is this is the part
that just blows. MY mind i heard somebody say the
other day That. Will, russia no they Mentioned No Soviet
soviet what are you? Talking about they were living in.

(51:44):
The past THEY, said KGB. It's fsb this hasn't BEEN a. Kgb, eiter,
wow whatever and that sort of thing, is, like, wow.
Whatever whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
We.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Don't know you KNOW what. I, MEAN no i don't
wish me WELL they're i mean, is no. They're, not
no they're, not well are? They are? They? Socialists, No
no russia again because Everybody, in russia We. Hate russia
they're this semi they're defining kind of as a, semi

(52:17):
federal semi presidential republic state influence. Market economy they call it.
Oligarchic capitalism but.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
It's not and these words mean something and we can't
and we, don't care we don't care. About anything we're
so because it ruins HOW do i, Say this it ruins.
The storyline it ruins what we. Believe in, YOU know
i mentioned, it Before This dunning, krueger effect which is,

(52:52):
so terrific, which means and again This is i'm sure you've.
Heard it you have to have, heard it is that
people with limited knowledge or ability in some particular, area
dramatically dramatically overestimate their competence because they don't have the
expertise enough to know that they don't know what the
hell they're. Talking about there's something also called. Confirmation bias

(53:14):
you hear it a lot on. Cable news this is where,
we notice we notice information supporting what we, already believe
while discounting evidence that. Challenges. Us see one of the
great Things That roger, ails did who was, A genius
he created the notion, not created but emphasize the notion of,
narrow casting and narrow casting is. Not Broadcasting narrow casting

(53:39):
is the ability to focus in on a particular prism
or a particular framework of information or knowledge that comports
or sticks or agrees with, your worldview. Not everybody it
doesn't give You conflicting it doesn't tell you you Know

(54:01):
where trump's not doing a. Good, job, no, no, no, no no
it's where he's doing a. Great job THAT'S what i want.
To hear that's. Confirmation bias then we have this beauty.
Cognitive dissonance this is where we feel this kind of like,
this unease, you know when we have facts that collide with.
Our beliefs we don't, like this and instead of changing

(54:24):
the belief of doing, more research we just, invent explanations
or we, just excluded or we don't. Pay attention this
is what. We do this is critical to. Understand this
here's one and this also has this is kind of
a fancy, schmancy title but. Not really it's called the
fundamental attribution. Error process, it means how do we say

(54:47):
this when we explain that somebody else's behavior as a
character defect while explaining our own identical behavior. THROUGH circumstances,
i mean, he's RECKLESS but i was in. A hurry
well he, did this but my. Mind's different these are

(55:09):
things that we do at levels that are, so fascinating absolutely.
So FASCINATING and i mean this this is the part, which,
is oh here, we go ready for this the names
don't let the names. For you this is called the.
Availability HEURISTIC now i know it, sounds like what does?

(55:31):
That mean this, makes, dramatic terrible memorable events seem more
common than the. Actually are, for example if there's one,
airplane crash it can feel more threatening than thousands of ordinary.

(55:51):
Automobile deaths see nobody ever cares about little, things like,
for EXAMPLE, during covid. During whatever the number one cause
of death In The, united states if you had to attribute,
to anything is cardiovascular. Heart attack and the majority, of
these the majority has something to do with anything that's
pre ordering. Or genetic, is lifestyle lifestyle and lipid levels

(56:15):
and all this other kind. Of jenets nobody wants to
think that. That's boring they wanted to GO, for covid
or they wanted to go. For, cancer no it's, heart attack,
heart attack and nobody Ever wants you can talk about
heart attack, heart attack but don't talk. About diet and
if you really want to, see something oh you're gonna love.

(56:37):
This one try this on, for size do. SOME research,
I know i tell, people, that Okay and i'll. Do
this one of my favorite kind, of fallacies so, to
speak is how we in this country love. Olive oil we.
Love it we put it on, on anything on. Corn

(57:01):
flakes it's, so healthy it's, heart smart it's a, good
fat it's a, monosaturated fact it's it's. Extra virgin And
and greek People are. Italian people they live to be
one hundred because they pour olive oil on top. Of

(57:22):
things and we create. These things and we used to
go to restaurants and they to bring you a plate,
of butter and now they bring you olive oil with
a couple of herbs. Sprinkled in it's one hundred. Percent fat,
one yeah but it's a. Good fat what are you?
Talking about and people will say this and they will,

(57:44):
get well you Know the harvard this and they talk
About the mediterranean diet and if you saw the. COUNTERVAILING
evidence i used to Think that bertoli lobby must be.
The greatest i'm not saying don't eat olive oil or
is it gonna? Kill you i'm not. Saying that but
people have. This idea and then it's so interesting when, you,

(58:06):
say well you know the amount, Of, Fat Well. I'M
italian i don't even know what that has to do.
With anything people can't even critically think. Or, argue see
this is where we are in. Our country we come
up with things to create the reality that, we want

(58:27):
and there is nothing that we hate more than to
have our worldview destroyed by some smart ass who comes along, and,
says no that's, Not true no that's not that's. Not
communism they don't. Want that they don't. Want that and
instead of running, and, saying okay let me look. At this, oh, no, no, no,

(58:48):
no no oh, no no this IS what. I heard
this is. My worldview this IS what i think you
should have heard this conversation the. Other day everybody loves. Their, Religion,
EVERYBODY oh i. Love this I'm. A, Catholic really I'm, a,
catholic OKAY and i, you know Went to brooke. Your

(59:10):
school i'm kind of A retired CATHOLIC because i don't Go,
TO mass i don't Do The holy Days. Of obligation
that's Not. A catholic that's SOMEBODY who's, i guess. A
theoretical that's like Me saying I'm, theoretically french EVEN though
i Don't speak french And, to France But i'm french
in my. OWN mind i just create this THING that's
i did you do?

Speaker 7 (59:30):
This?

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Here Well. I'm irish what do? Your, name well My.
Name's callahan can You? Speak? Gaelic no have you Been. To,
ireland No But. I'm irish we just. Say THINGS so
i talked to this sort. OF friend, i said what
Does a catholic person believe That a protestant. Person doesn't

(59:51):
what Makes? You catholic now this is a person who
was bragging. About, it well you know It's. A catholic
AND well I went. Catholic, school, no, NO no i
went To a jesuit high School and i'd say maybe
thirty percent of my Class. Was jewish so they Were
not catholic and they were so what? Is it they

(01:00:14):
couldn't answer, the question couldn't answer, the question the, most, fundamental,
Absolute critical what does? This mean? No IDEA if i
hear one more person say we're, A democracy i'm going,
To scream we're not, a democracy never were. A democracy

(01:00:36):
we have no idea what we're. Talking about when people
talk about abortion and the constitution and substance of due process,
and ninoscalia they have no idea what they're. Talking About
and i'm, never EVER and, i suggest never discuss foreign
policy with anybody who was a slave to. Cable news if,

(01:00:58):
you do you're taking your life in your. Own hands
because they know, the least the least because we're a
country that doesn't even have we don't even have geography in.
SCHOOL anymore i gotta tell you.

Speaker 13 (01:01:15):
This story, AND again i know a lot, of PEOPLE
and I know I sometimes i can be a pain
in the ASS because i, just think if you're going
to bring, something up you at least owe me the
duty of knowing what you're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Talking about so somebody was, talking, about yeah, you know
we got the problem with the straight of. HORROR moves,
i said, VERY interesting, i said what is? The strait who?
Owns it where? Is it what's so important?

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
About?

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
It, OIL yeah i. Know That and i've got another
friend of mine who all he cares about the only
thing in the world is the price. Of oil. That's
it the world could be, on flames but if you
could buy gas at two point fifty, a gallon. He's fine. That's,
it okay if you're a title. Of THEM so, i

(01:02:02):
said are you familiar With The babel Mandeb the Gate?
Of tears and he looked. AT me, i said that's
the one you're gonna watch because that's guarded By, The
hohothies and again the look do you know who?

Speaker 14 (01:02:20):
They?

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Are no do you know who? They are no. Are though,
the terrorists well they don't think so, oh okay. Forget
IT so i, just say you, know what. Forget it
i'm just not Even gonna i'm not even. Gonna bother don't,
even bother because there's another thing that. People believe and
you've met these, people before everybody from. Other countries they are,

(01:02:45):
all evil from fathers and grandfathers and grandmothers and kids
and teachers. And neighbors they get together every morning and
they plot. Evil things they're a society. Of evil they.
Promote evil there's. Nothing good they have. No history they
could predate this country by thousands and. Thousand millennia. Doesn't

(01:03:08):
matter if you go, against us. You're evil now that's.
Not true doesn't mean, they're good doesn't mean. They're evil,
ONE day i swear, to YOU if i say just,
one week try this for, One week spend, twenty minutes

(01:03:29):
and we can do it on learning a little bit
about what you're. Talking about spend, some TIME and i swear,
TO you i could change. People's awareness they would love this,
country more they would love, learning more they would love.
Complexity more but that's not, gonna happen because that's not
the way. We are that's not the way our. News
works doesn't work. Like that they don't want you. To

(01:03:52):
think thinking complicates matters eight hundred and eighty four eight
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numbers eight hundred and eighty four eight nine two to.
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The air It's gonna Joaquin. In pennsylvania we have not
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Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
Morning linel you're gonna get me in trouble because you.
PRODDED me i can't, help IT and i can't believe
that other people who are firearms of fiscionados don't realize
that there's no Way That kyler robinson could Have Shot
charlie kirk with a thirty out six with THE mousic
k Ninety eight rechambridge in thirty out six without leaving
an exit hole in the back and splattering blood on

(01:04:56):
the back of that screen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Or disintegrating his. Head, COMPLETELY.

Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Yes, I mean i just can't believe that nobody else could.
SEE it, i mean we used to go to a Range.
On calverton, you know guys would they would have a
break up disks, out there steal, brake discs, you know shooting,
out them a, punching. Holes drum. You know it's just
Also too let me.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Let me say. Something else we're talking About. The tyler
we're talking About The tyler. Robinson case he is charged,
with murdering With Assassinating. Charlie kirk how? About this the,
guns them the gun itself was not found by one
of these gun. Detection dogs these dogs are so sensitive
they could smell a, fish, fart okay but they for

(01:05:42):
some reason. Missed this not only that the configuration of
the scope gets in the way of, the safety not
only that he either had a screwdriver Or an. Alan
wrench they said there was. A screwdriver the definition of
how to take this. Thing apart by, the way this
is a KID who i don't know if he's. That

(01:06:04):
good it was With an. Alan rinch did you see
how many times he supposedly purportedly changed. His clothes it's read.
This story I'M sorry i Did not.

Speaker 9 (01:06:18):
I'M sorry i.

Speaker 8 (01:06:19):
DID not i focus on the fact that it's a thirty, oh,
Six okay and the fact of the matter is that left,
no exit won't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
No no we, know that. No understanding now we're just
but that's THAT'S just i hate to. Say it that's
the least. Of it this is this is the. Biggest
joke do, you know we're not even sure if and
at all if he admitted anything to. His parents do
you know he turned himself into the police and never.

(01:06:48):
Admitted it he turned himself in because he told him
they're gonna. Kill you they're gonna. Kill you they were
going to. Butler him how he. Slipped through nobody can figure.
This out so it's one of. Those things, but yet,
but yet just. Say it if you watch, cable news
they've got it open. And shut no, big deal. It's

(01:07:12):
done how about when you have the son of the
president Of The united states showing up with a secret
service contingent to a. Preliminary hearing does that send the
message out to? The judge what does? That mean what
is going? On here Remember when nixon made that offhand
Comment about manson, being guilty and that caused. AN uproar

(01:07:34):
i mean, THIS look.

Speaker 11 (01:07:37):
I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
DON'T know i would NOT put i would not give
this guy his life A plug nichols worth. Of, existing
absolutely if they did This, to epstein. They will they
will epstein this guy. So fast and you, know what
nobody will question it because he's a troubled. Young man
he will leave. A note.

Speaker 8 (01:07:58):
HE'S crazy, I agree, I mean butler troubles, me also,
YOU know i mean when you have a congress moves
Former green ray gets out of his car and looks
at the. Whole thing and his, first comment and why
wasn't there someone up on that? Water tower and the
fact that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
This one why did? The president why? The president why
did the president shut down? The investigation what's? GOING on,
I mean i can come up with all kinds of.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
INTERESTING theories, i unfortunately with all the attempts on his wife,
And everything, I'M sorry i just can't help but, feel that,
you know he got. The message i'm not going to
say anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
In that you, Know, WHAT joaquin i understand what you.
WERE saying i, thank you, My friend please call. ME
again a lot of people are saying, precisely that precisely
that let's Go to Charlie In, Cherry Hill. New jersey
brace yourself, for this. My friend you're on another Side
of Midnight.

Speaker 15 (01:08:51):
With lionel, Thank.

Speaker 9 (01:08:53):
YOU lionel i just want TO say i, totally agree
and people are mission standing. AS today i don't don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
It all but, what misunderstanding, what sir.

Speaker 9 (01:09:05):
About Why doctor fauci is Taking The. Fifth amendment he's
Taking The fifth amendment because he has to avoid a.
Perjury trap and, you said if you were, his lawyer
you were advising to Take The fifth, Amendment TOO and
i think that's the right thing. TO do i think that's.
Good ADVICE and i don't, like him by.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
THE way i don't care. FOR him i think he's.
A dupe i think he's a. DANGEROUS person i think
he did more to cause and wreak. Hav it he's.
A slime i personally am disgusted. By, him however he
doesn't abnegate or give up his constitutional rights because he's a.
Dirt bucket.

Speaker 9 (01:09:43):
That's right and the pardon that people give people. Keep
put one of your callers mentioned and you hear other
callers and other programs, men, say well he's got, a
pardon why shouldn't? He, testify well the reason why he
shouldn't testify Is Because governor DeSantis he actually announced This On,
fox news which at THE station, i watched is he

(01:10:05):
announced him he's, bringing charges, State charges florida's. State charges
now these aren't. Federal charges he's Bringing to florida court
and he wants to put him in Jail. In florida
and as you know from being A, PROSECUTOR florida, I
mean florida prisons, are HELLS and i think it's one

(01:10:26):
and he he thinks then he keeps using, the, phrase
well we need to hold him. On accountable we need
to hold. Him accountable and THE question i keep asking
if people, is well what does? THAT mean i think
they should take away his. MEDICAL license i don't think
he should be a. Doctor anymore but he's eighty five.

(01:10:47):
YEARS old i don't want to see him go. To
jail because, he said why should he lose?

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
His, license.

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
Well the REASON why i think he should lose his
license to, practice medicine it's because of what he Did
Was Eco health alliance and Helping The wuhan Laboratory of
virality did, The.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
WELL charlie i thank you. For colleagues please call, me
again let me just tell. You something if you think
you're going to be able to, establish that if you
think you're going to be able to and even you
based upon administrative, hearing standards which is not exactly, reasonable
doubt but, uh HUH because i promise you he will

(01:11:35):
show you that everything he did, was, approved ordered it.
Was consistent he followed. The rules that doesn't mean anything
just because you're following. The rules what?

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Is that is?

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
THAT familiar i just? Following orders go back? In history
where does that? Come from let's Go to Terry In. New,
jersey terry you're on another Side of Midnight.

Speaker 16 (01:11:59):
With, Lionel, No, hi lona your show is. Really fabulous
please us spell down. OUT here i don't know like
you Bring Up. Pylot robinson do you realize that most
people wouldn't even know who you were talking about when
you mentioned?

Speaker 11 (01:12:15):
His?

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Name, Absolutely absolutely and THAT'S why i don't talk about.

Speaker 17 (01:12:19):
Right exactly And also crooks who was Up in Butler
And ryan roth on the golf course and the psychopathic
firebomber Down and Bold of.

Speaker 16 (01:12:31):
Colorado killed an eighty year old lady during.

Speaker 14 (01:12:33):
A protest but everybody seems To know fauci's Name is.
Luigi's name we got a really deep dive into that,
one night and no white people are like they want To.
Get tauchi they want to, get him like he's the
only guy involved in this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
AND everything i would like To get FAUNCI if i
could do it by, the rules pursuing to.

Speaker 18 (01:12:52):
The rules but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
We have to. Have somebody we need somebody to actually
and remember he has been granted a pardon or put it,
This way biden's auto pen might have. Done it let
me also tell you something which is. VERY important i
want to just, just, change change just a. Little course
there is Something that i'm trying to, tell PEOPLE and

(01:13:16):
i want them. To listen, and again maybe you know.
About this when you, have people when YOU have Dsa
And mom donnie like clones doing well around, the country
why aren't people asking, the, question well why are they
considered favorable and attractive to so? Many people, number two

(01:13:36):
why do you think there's such an excitement of People
Like tucker carlson announcing a? Third party why are People
Like Marjorie titla Green And joe Kent And thomas massey?
And others why are they so attractive to so? Many
people why do you think that. Is now what happens
is as, you know if you watch, cable news they

(01:13:59):
will dismiss. These people, they're crazy, they're fringe they don't
know what's, going on. They're stupid this is, the way
this is the way we. Do business this is the
way we. DO business i am telling you there is
a revolution in. This country there is, a revolution and
there are, people who for, whatever reason, They're saying i'm

(01:14:22):
tired of this business's usual Two Party. Republican democrats most
people can't even just tell you what a. Republican is
they have no earthly idea because they don't even see.
It exemplified they don't. Understand IT and i will tell you.
THIS much i, don't know but if There's a republican
Party In, new york please tell me where.

Speaker 14 (01:14:42):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Is please where? Are they where? Are they sasquatch is
easier to find than. THESE folks i don't know what.
THEY do i know a lot of people talk a.
Good game they have, lapel pins a lot of, lapel
pins a lot, of flags things. Like that but what
does it? Really? Mean terry what is your? Political philosophy

(01:15:05):
what do you? Believe in not what party? You're in
but people don't answer. These questions they can't answer.

Speaker 14 (01:15:11):
These, courses, well first just on a joking THING before
i get. To It The republican party used to hold
their meetings in, phone votes but they got rid of
the phone Votes In. New york but the, thing is
my philosophy is a country cannot be over ridden and
overwhelmed by. Farm is and now What The republican, party

(01:15:35):
does if you notice their strategy now is with all
these very hard left people getting elected in primaries and
even in, general elections they're blaming white college kids. For
this this is another. Big lie the fallout is from
basically one Hundred Million third worlds Come into america and
they're voting.

Speaker 16 (01:15:53):
For the for third world it's for basically vote in, good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
PART and i thank you for, your call. My friend,
in part there are a number of people in, this
Country and i'm telling you who have been here who
Are not, third worlders but. They are there's a NEW dare,
i say a, new contingent a new a new part
of what you would call either the left or, liberal
left who are enjoying this new kind of this exciting. Shake,

(01:16:24):
up remember people Laughed at George McGovern, george McGovern by,
the way was a was a hard. Right winger compared
to some of. These people this guy was was A
Bomber World. WAR two, i mean this guy. Is serious
but at the time McCarthy, and McGovern those are nothing
compared to what we're seeing. Right now we're hearing a
group of people who were talking about who were making

(01:16:47):
part do we, say this who are Making real they're
very attractive and when it comes To, mom donnie what
people are forgetting see they look at him and, they,
SAY look i wouldn't vote for him, for, anything. NOTHING
zero i understand what. This is that's not. My point
JUST because i wouldn't do it doesn't. MEAN anything i

(01:17:07):
know how he appeals. To people, he's nice, he smiles he, seems, benign.
Saccharine annodyne he talks about things he talks about and
he's just he's, an excellent absolutely. Excellent, SPEAKER again i
don't believe in this look at. His style everybody who

(01:17:28):
meets him always. Loves him everybody who meets, him says
how cordially is. A nice look at our. PRIOR mare
i know this Is Very new. York Century, eric adams
who was. An imbecile and now he's showing now he's.
Working out what is with these middle aged men all
of a sudden, they're, Saying look i'm. Working out i'm doing.
Pull ups Whether, it's hexath Whether It's, bobby Kennedy Now.

(01:17:49):
Eric adams this. Is Terrific george marshall couldn't do a
pull up to save. His life what are you? Talking
about we've. Become children who's running? The show where is?
The bench where are people to explain the rudiments of how?
Systems work what happens when you lose billionaires theoretically in,

(01:18:13):
this city what happens to that? TAX base i know
it sounds good to your, radical left. NEILISTIC contingent i.
Understand that but. That's bizarre. That's ridiculous it doesn't make.
Any sense there are some things you need and you
don't destroy your tax base and. PROMISE things i just we.

(01:18:37):
Know this but here's. The thing i'm want to tell.
YOU this i, know this you, know this but they don't.
Know this how do you think? That is what? Is
that Jack. And, pennsylvania jack you're on another Side of Midnight.

Speaker 19 (01:18:51):
With liono i'm your number one Fan, in pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
And it sounds like.

Speaker 19 (01:18:57):
My friend please let, me talk let me pay. YOUR
respect i agree with everything. You say you're suck an,
educated MAN and i just want you TO know i appreciate.

Speaker 10 (01:19:14):
Your, Views, well jack, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
And you call, Me, AGAIN jack i. APPRECIATE that I
mention i thought he was gonna yell at me for
a while was Thank. You jack please call me again.
So much, please, do sir. Please do I'm. Not god
i'm not. Gonna say i'm not going to. Say anything
let's Go to Max In New. York city you're on

(01:19:41):
another side of Midnight. With, lionel.

Speaker 15 (01:19:44):
Yes thank you for taking. My call you HAVE what
i wanted to go to, sleep EARLY and i started
listening to. YOUR conversation i couldn't go back. To sleep
good moment here has to do with something called MADE
M A I D medical Assistance. And dying AND what i.

Speaker 9 (01:20:01):
Would say is that.

Speaker 15 (01:20:02):
It's, PASSED uh i hope will sign this. Into effect
signed this and went into effects on the sixth of
this month and getting, the simplistic the simple version of
this is that now if you're going to a hospital
and they think that you're not, worth saving they'll send

(01:20:22):
a nurse to your room in the middle of, the
night and they will up with something to. Kill you
this can happen to, your mother, your.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Father, ourselves now where do you where do you know this?
To be where do you know this?

Speaker 14 (01:20:35):
To?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
BE trucer.

Speaker 15 (01:20:38):
I heard heard this on. THE news i also heard
this from Uh SHEHRY karen i think her.

Speaker 9 (01:20:44):
Name is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
You're saying that people medical professionals will come into your
room and they.

Speaker 15 (01:20:54):
Come in They can't it's legally allowed now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
To come in and. Kill, you, you yes against, your
will unbeknownst. To, you rollover hold, Your breath we're going to.

Speaker 15 (01:21:08):
Kill you there are some details and YOU could i
could be here for a longer time discussing this. With you,
but yes that's the that's the easiest way to, put
it because you're on on the radio now and we
have a their, time CONSTRAINTS and i had to spit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
It, Out, okay well what can we do, about?

Speaker 15 (01:21:28):
This sir.

Speaker 16 (01:21:31):
That's a.

Speaker 15 (01:21:31):
Good question that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Good question what would you like us, to?

Speaker 9 (01:21:35):
Do, Sir well i'd.

Speaker 15 (01:21:37):
Like to uh, can, ideally IDEALLY if i could contron
several people ON the A m a or at the
bioethics board in all of, these hospitals which is another
word of say. Eugenics boards i'd like to put them in,
their place but that's not too rational a way of dealing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
With, things well do you believe that physicians assisted suicide
has its? Place? Anywhere Yes if payton.

Speaker 15 (01:22:09):
Is suffering too much, and says look's just take, me out.

Speaker 10 (01:22:12):
That's.

Speaker 11 (01:22:12):
Fine okay what if A person i don't think THEY
need i don't think they need this made situation medical
assistance and dying They can you could still have done that.

Speaker 15 (01:22:23):
Prior to kathy hope of.

Speaker 9 (01:22:24):
Finding this how, is?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
That, sir.

Speaker 15 (01:22:28):
Well because hospitals, have that. You can you did have
the ability before she signed this into effect to sign something, and,
say look things are getting too, painful here, you know
numb me up or take.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Me out, no, no no good luck, with. That, SIR now,
I know i know there are some cases, where, No.

Speaker 15 (01:22:47):
No, Noel lionel I'M sorry i have to disagree with
YOU because i have had A personal i have personal
confrontation with a nurse in a hospital and they. Threatened
me they SAID if i didn't keep my mouth shut
so such a they could shove anything up in the uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
On of my.

Speaker 15 (01:23:04):
Loved one and wait, a MINUTE and i think that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Different story let me go back to what you. Said
Before if i'm in a hospital right NOW, and i for,
whatever reason want to check out on, my own on,
my OWN and i want, to, say listen either just
just end this, right now overdose me with some type Of,
animal jesus, you know, stop respiration whatever. IT is i

(01:23:30):
want to terminate. My, life now you're saying a hospital, will,
say okay we'll. Accommodate you is that what you're saying.

Speaker 15 (01:23:39):
At this point.

Speaker 11 (01:23:39):
In, time, yes, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 (01:23:45):
No yes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
No good.

Speaker 5 (01:23:50):
They are.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Not legal wait that can, be well what it can?
Be done you say it. Is done you're saying that
a doctor a hospital is going to go to somebody
who is not. Necessarily terminal my is going to have
no review to make sure they're, not, depressed nothing but
they're going, to, say, listen doc that patient in twelve

(01:24:12):
oh three wants to. Check OUT should i do? The?
Thing yes and they go. In there somebody watches the
door and, they, say okay, you're Ready, mister, johnson okay
and we load you up with some KIND of i,
don't know what, it is and they're going to escape,
criminal liability any kind, of lawsuits losing, their license being,
shut down, family members people who didn't agree. To this

(01:24:37):
you're telling me a hospital now does this on a,
regular basis just to accommodate the wishes of a very.
Ill person it may not.

Speaker 15 (01:24:46):
Just be accommodating. The wishes they may for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Their respective irrespective.

Speaker 15 (01:24:53):
Of, why no it's not irrespective. Of why it's an
important that's an important way. To approach you, can't.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
No No but i'm saying whether they, do this why
they do this. Is irrelevant the fact that you're saying
they do this. Right now in hospitals kill people who
just hold up their hand, and say, EXCUSE me i
don't Know what i'm going here. Through this don't check,
me out just. Kill me and by, the way when

(01:25:21):
you fill out the death certificate right, and natural don't
don't put, you know don't, put homicide because that's what.
This is this is. A homicie yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:25:32):
It is and as far as topping far more Frequently
in canada than it, is, here.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Well well that's, another story. My friend thank you so.
VERY much i appreciate. Your call eight hundred and, eighty
four eighty nine through. TWO two I don't i'm not. Buying.
That sorry it's a very, complicated issue assisted, physician assistants.
Assisted death, it's very. Very difficult Liz, In, alaska liz

(01:26:05):
you're on another Side of Midnight With Lionel.

Speaker 18 (01:26:09):
High lionel let's, SEE first i wanted To mention. I'VE
asked i have three daughters who are all progressive and
Were Behind. BERNIE sanderson i, asked why and this might
be a stance Of The Democratic socialist party at. THIS
time i. Don't know But when i've, asked people, they've
said because. Everything's free And when i've asked them they

(01:26:30):
would they would go to the Country. Of DENMARK when
i asked them what are the tax Rates, Of norway Sweden,
and denmark they didn't know and they didn't want. TO
know i try and see there's no, free lunch and didn't. Get,
ANYWHERE also i hear a lot of people, bashing billionaires

(01:26:51):
like they want a different form of government other. Than capitalism, you.

Speaker 20 (01:26:55):
Know, Yeah yeah i've tried.

Speaker 18 (01:26:59):
Under people are coming from well as to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Your children by, the way with all, due respect. THEY'RE
idiots i don't know what to tell you that's that's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
There listen they're as as idiotic claiming they want d
essay as people who claim, other buddy other people are.
A communist she have two sides of. The people they
don't even know that the fundamentals. Of this do? You
know could you describe democratic socialism as it is? Theoretically designed?

(01:27:34):
Can you can you? Describe?

Speaker 18 (01:27:35):
IT no i tried to find up all of.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
The money you, can't EITHER.

Speaker 18 (01:27:41):
Because i haven't run into. It before and he just
seemed to promise a lot of free things that didn't
seem practical.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
At, all okay but what do you think?

Speaker 18 (01:27:50):
IT is i have.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
No, idea, okay, WELL listen i. Appreciate that thank you
call me again eight hundred and eighty four eight ninety
two to. Two two thank you. So much i'm going
to say this as as nicely. As possible there is,
no reason none for anybody TO say i have no

(01:28:13):
idea what. IT'S about i have no idea what democratic.
SOCIALISM is i don't even know the rudiments of Socialism.
VERSUS marxism i. Don't know you have right now on,
your phone on, your phone the ability to at least
ask something to even get you kind of in the,
right direction do? You hear and this is she's a.

(01:28:35):
Wonderful person nobody has a thirst for knowing the truth
of knowing what does this mean versus this, the nuances,
the history where did this? Come from or you were meant?

(01:28:56):
To believe especially if you watch cable news and a
lot of the more, YOU know i don't know what
you want to, call it the usual suspect type of,
information platforms that these are kind, of, stalinist maoist castro

(01:29:18):
uh red Commi, ANTI america, i mean, just, whatever whatever
whatever this horror, show is and people will say that's
good enough. For me i'll. Take that i'll, take that
never lifting a finger, TO say i don't think that's

(01:29:40):
It Is mom? Donnie crazy oh yes? He's, crazy, really,
yes yes so? He, is yes well what is? HE
believed i. Don't know it's something, or other but it doesn't.
Really matter he's a kami and, he's crazy and. He's crazy,
all right that's the way. We think it takes you

(01:30:01):
five minutes five to sit there, and, say, oh okay
AT least i understand what. It's about you can also
research give me Arguments Against, mom, donnie please you can
Use any by, THE way ai do not. Miss misunderestimated
somebody one, time said you can ask any combinations of

(01:30:22):
questions you want up to an including what does? This
mean what does? THIS mean ai is so you don't
have to even lift. A finger you could just ask
it a question and it will send you all. About
it and it's very very what's the word kind of

(01:30:43):
parsimonious when it comes to. Giving opinions it gives you
at least. THE theory i want to know what the.
THEORY is i want to know what the. THEORY is
i was explaining to somebody the other day about the
notion Of The republican party when it, first started the
first convention and was eighteen sixty five or Something, in
philly the. Two, position remember they talked about the twin pillars, of,

(01:31:03):
barbarism polygamy. And slavery and they look at, me like
what are you? Talking about because they have this Idea,
that Republican The republican party is is racist or they
Know nothing american. HISTORY nothing i also want to say,
one thing if you have not a rudimentary understanding, of

(01:31:24):
geography kind of where things are Laid out europeans know
it constantly because when they're on vacation, or holiday they
can get in, a car drive for, two hours and
they're in a. Different country they travel like you. Can't
believe we don't. Do this, we don't. We, DON'T frankly
i can. UNDERSTAND why i hate to. Say it i'm

(01:31:46):
Not really SOMEBODY said i want to spend a Month
in fouquet, to great have a. Nice time send me.
A postcard do we even have? POSTCARDS anymore i. Don't
know But what i'm saying is we have to enlist
in people the ability to say before you opine, about
something do you understand what? This means That's all Pamela In, New,

(01:32:10):
jersey pamela you're on another side Of the Midnight. With
lionel in.

Speaker 20 (01:32:15):
Reference to this assistic dying thing getting out, of hand
why NOT didn't covid get out? Of hand didn't people
die in nursing homes and hospitals and family members were,
Locked out and if you died in a, motorcycle accident
suddenly IT was covid because that's where the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Money was and your, point is.

Speaker 20 (01:32:38):
Assistant Dying In New york state or anywhere can get out. Of,
HAND oh, i know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
What do you think? ABOUT it.

Speaker 20 (01:32:49):
I think it's very. Dangerous, territory well what do?

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
You do you think there should be a mechanism where
a person has the ability to terminate or to accel,
the inevitable the something that is relatively painless, by virtue
some type of a cocktail that can.

Speaker 20 (01:33:08):
End their individual when they're of sound mind and they
make plans. For it, and also what we've done now
is because everybody's suing, over opioids people are in pain
and agony and not able to. Get opioids that's a.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Different issue that's a. Different Issue what i'm asking, you
is do you believe it?

Speaker 9 (01:33:29):
It's?

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Connected, No no i'm asking you a very. Civil question
do you believe we.

Speaker 20 (01:33:33):
Should tell you if you when you're in sound mind
and you, Make, plans no let me ask.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
You this and what if you make let me let
me ask you. A question what if you make these
plans at the age, of thirty at the age of seventy,
or later you figure now these plans must. Be implemented
who determines whether you are of sound? Mind then not when.
You were That's what.

Speaker 20 (01:34:01):
I'm saying the whole thing can get out. Of hands,
SO no.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
I do that's Not what i'm. ASKING you.

Speaker 9 (01:34:05):
I do i.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Appreciate it thank you for to. Do, this, okay okay
thank You appreciate this is somebody who does not want
to delve into, the intricacies, the beauty the the there's
so many great we'll talk about that. Coming up our
number is eight hundred eight four eight nine two. To
two eight hundred eight four eight nine two. Two two
let's talk, about this shall we on another side of Midnight?

Speaker 9 (01:34:29):
With lionel.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Already a lineup? With you eight hundred and eighty four
eight nine two. Two two.

Speaker 21 (01:34:43):
What a.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Fascinating subject. Fascinating subject the idea of that should you
you know there there is a provision of Course in
canada which we sort of kind of, maybe have but
it's this idea of this uh this UH, m aid
this medically medical assistance. In dying and it's one of

(01:35:08):
those THINGS where, i mean Whether you i've heard people say,
this BEFORE but i am telling you, right now the
idea that somebody that somebody who is in agony or
or or is being kept alive because their heart, is

(01:35:31):
beating because they're. They're breathing.

Speaker 20 (01:35:38):
This.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
IS life i don't have a Say In new york
the medical, assisted uh THE m, aid provision medical assisted
medical assistance. In Dying kathy holkel has Something In. New

(01:36:00):
york the law is is very different from what it
is a few. Months Ago but hockel SIGNED The maid
Act on february the sixth of, this year and the
operative provisions became Effective, in august and it is considerably
Narrower than. Canada's, system then basically for those who, are

(01:36:22):
interested but, you know we'll talk about this in. A
moment but the issue IS because i don't have time
to go into the full throes. Of THIS but i
just plugged in just a question of What Is new.
York's law it took me a millisecond to get. The answer.
A millisecond it's. RIGHT there i don't have TO say i.

(01:36:45):
Don't know bets a hell out. Of me. It's simple
the bigger problem, to everything not, the issues is the
level of. In curiosity this idea that there's a certain degree,
of sex wisfaction OR dare, i say even satiety that
people feel, WITH well i. Don't know i'm not. Really,

(01:37:08):
sure huh never thought. ABOUT that i. DON'T know i.
Can't live i'm. Looking up i'll get that a bed
to look up, a word that something that just props
into my mind because you, don't Why because. I'm demented
eight hundred and eighty four eight nine two, two two,
the third the, final hour coming up on another side

(01:37:30):
of midnight, With.

Speaker 12 (01:37:31):
ME lionel, I know, I know, I know, I know,
I know, I know.

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
I.

Speaker 6 (01:37:55):
Know, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
I know i lie alday.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Line up, with you and this is the third and
the final hour of this thing. OF ours i number
is eight hundred and, eighty four eight nine two. Two
two what, an exciting absolutely just an INCREDIBLE even i
don't know, about YOU but i. Love this and the

(01:38:27):
REASON why i love this is you never know where
we're going. With this we never know where. We're going
somebody will, say something somebody will throw in not a,
Curve ball we'll, just say you, know what what? About?
THIS instead, I, THINK oh i, LIKE this i like.
This angle let's see if we can kind of veer
just a. Little bit and if you, if you if,

(01:38:49):
you don't HOW do i, Say this if you don't
use and utilize the genius of, The CALLERS and i,
SAY this i say this with all, due respect you
miss one of the best natural things that. Are available
it's very easy sometimes it gets somebody into it and

(01:39:09):
to lock yourself into, a format which, is good, you
know which is everybody's got their own. Particular style but
if you, have guests or if you have this, and
that you're locked, into that but you don't have the opportunity.
To veer this IS what i think is the. Most
important this IS what i think is the. Most critical

(01:39:30):
this IS what I think i love the most about what.
We're doing, so important, so important this is, SO critical
i can't say. It ENOUGH now i did something which
is very, very interesting very. VERY simple i WENT and
i just. LOOKED up i went into you canna have,

(01:39:53):
opening eye you can HAVE, chet GPT and, i said
what is Specifically The New york Provision For medical Aid In?
Dying act what? Is it what? Is it how does
it change or veer or Differ From CANADA'S when i

(01:40:14):
tell you less than, A second i've got everything there
is and, citation form it's. RIGHT there i don't have
to Go.

Speaker 14 (01:40:24):
To.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Google nothing so just in case you want, to know
because this, Is Fascinating new york the law now is
very different from what it was even a few. Months
Ago Governor kathy hockel Signed The medical Aid In dying
Act on february the sixth of. This year the operative
provisions became Effective, in august and it is considerably Narrower.

(01:40:46):
Than canada's The Basic new york rule is this an
individual must Be A new york resident at least eighteen,
years old, mentally capable and suffering from an curable and
irreversible terminal illness or condition expected to cause death within.

(01:41:09):
Six months disability or old age by itself does. Not,
qualify OKAY now i just, read this and maybe it's
the lawyer, in Me but, i'm seeing oh, my god
exception after exception and condition and interpretation left and. Right
now the safeguards they say. Are substantial the patient must

(01:41:34):
personally request. THE medication a, healthcare proxy spouse or family
member cannot request it for. The patient there is an
oral request that must be audio or, video recorded as
well as a written statement. A request an attending physician

(01:41:55):
and an independent consulting physician must evaluate, the case and
the consulting physician must confirm the, terminal diagnosis, the capacity
and the informed decision and absence. Of Coercion new york
went further than many jurisdictions by requiring every applicant to
undergo an evaluation by a psychiatrist or a psychologist concerning decision.

(01:42:21):
Making capacity if that professional concludes that the patient, lacks
capacity the person. Cannot qualify and there's also a five
day waiting period between the prescription of being written and,
being filled although it can be shortened when the physician
concludes the patient is likely to die before waiting. Period

(01:42:44):
expires and here's an extremely important distinction. From euthanasia the
patient must perform the. Final act the medication must be
consciously and voluntarily. SELF administered, a, doctor nurse, family member
or other person cannot inject or administer the, lethal medication

(01:43:05):
and the patient may also revoke the request at, any
time and the attending physician must offer another opportunity. To
withdraw and there are conflicts of interest rules. As well
people who stand to inherit or otherwise, benefit financially which
is one of my concerns from the patient's death generally

(01:43:26):
cannot serve. As witnesses the, attending physician, consulting physician and
the evaluating mental health professional also cannot serve As Witnesses
new york expressly declares that a death occurring under the
statute is not legally considered suicide, assisted, suicide euthanasia, mercy killing.

(01:43:53):
Or homicide but, of course as you, can imagine critics
immediately make the, philosophical objection and it goes on. And,
on now this is a subject which. Fascinates me and
Everybody that i've ever known has, always said whatever, you
do don't let me wither and be. Stroked out and some,

(01:44:17):
you know hooked up to a tube with people changing,
my diapers and you know you've. HEARD this i don't
know anybody, who says whatever, you do you make sure
you keep. Me, ALIVE now i don't care if I'M
if i have the mental capacity of an, onion ring
you keep. ME alive i don't care if it to
please every last, dollar saved, every asset it. Doesn't matter

(01:44:41):
nobody ever. Says. That, nobody now, of course are there
are potentials, for, abuse yes but let me stop you.
Right there these same people will think absolutely nothing of
going into other countries for whatever reason and destroying huge

(01:45:01):
swaths of humanity without batting. An eye it's the weirdest
thing when it comes, to war when it comes, to
abortion when it comes to, capital punishment we are, so
situationally what's the word malleable when it comes, to morality

(01:45:22):
it's amazing. To me let's go back to, The phones
let's go back to your thoughts about this and, other,
matters whatever whatever melts. Your butter at eight hundred and
eight four eight ninety two to, Two two matt In,
the bronx you're on another Side of Midnight. With, LIONEL.

Speaker 5 (01:45:43):
Yes i know that there's currently a great deal of
conversation and debate Concerned About anthony fauci and him potentially.
Being prosecuted there's there's another baleful figure from the early
twoenty twenty twenties that, you know you really do need

(01:46:04):
to consider, for prosecution And That's. Merrick garland how, is,
that sually that's the. Wonderful, individual yeah how?

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Is that why should he be considered?

Speaker 5 (01:46:17):
For, Prosecution yeah That's what i'm explaining so pretty much
with regard when he was Actually The, attorney general he
actually DESIGNATED the fbi to consider, law abiding tax Paying
white american citizens who objected to having their children brainwashed
with HOMOSEXUAL and crt propaganda in the public schools that

(01:46:42):
they pay for with the taxes as quote domestic, terrorists
unquote and, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Ask, you again let me ask, you again why should he?

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
Be, prosecuted well when you get, that designation, you know
the law, enforcement agencies they don't exactly leave. You alone
they violate your civil rights if you get designated as
a terror or.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Domestic, Terrorists yeah i'm sure Mister mister garland would say
that's not EXACTLY what, I said but let's assume. It
is how should he be prosecuted under? What laws under
what theory civil?

Speaker 16 (01:47:15):
Rights law.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
In so far as that he's violating the civil rights
of a group of? People illegally what.

Speaker 1 (01:47:23):
About immunity from what about immunity from prosecution that, all
prosecuted that all the police and, you know judges AND have,
i mean at that time there are people who would
say what. HE did, i KNOW and i tend to
agree with you by being against, It philosophically but it's

(01:47:46):
not as there's no way. This prosecution they would laugh
this out of nobody would ever be in a diurney
general because if what they did, considered, ME well, i
was you violated my. Civil rights every time somebody does
anything where people, are arrested people or their their behaviors
are limited or truncated. Or whatever they're always going to

(01:48:07):
claim now that their civil rights. Or violated so, you
know we can't operationally. Do that it, sounds, good.

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
Yeah well, you know but in so far as the,
you know he violated the spirit of the laws, probable cause,
you know he.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Would, say no he would, SAY probably i don't want
to beliebor. The point but the idea was that this would.
Never work he would, SAY no i didn't because you
would have so many legal opinions, saying, no no this
is completely within the purview of his of his of.
HIS role, I know i know it, sounds GOOD and
i understand what, you're SAYING and i agree with, it, philosophically,

(01:48:47):
politically legally but he's not subject. To prosecution people who
want people prosecuted are the ones who want. Everybody impeached
they love this idea that you're going to remove people
because they did their. Job poorly, All.

Speaker 5 (01:49:02):
Right but you would agree THAT the fbi has a
long history of violating people's civil rights and. Civil liberties
so what with regard of The co Intel pro if
you remember back in the nineteen sixties, and Seventies, The, hoover,
Yes Exactly, diego hoover you're not civil, rights Activists Jeffybod diego.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
Hoover's dead and they would say to you, that's, fine
sir and that has something to do. With this now
we are A different, you know you Don't Think cash
patel whatever be involved in cointelpro?

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Do?

Speaker 5 (01:49:31):
YOU oh i would, hope not, you know but, you
know are?

Speaker 9 (01:49:36):
You kidding and?

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
A heartbeat look? At him, come on look? At him please?
Stop it, so anyway, bottom, line sir, bottom line what
Would you let let's talk. About reality what would you like?

Speaker 19 (01:49:49):
Done?

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Now realistically we're not going to go back in time
And Prosecute. Merrick garland what should be, doing?

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
Now sir we should put in as many say guards
and civilian oversights OVER.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
The fbi, oh, no, no, no no no no. No
no civilian oversight takes away their ability to. USE discretion
i want my president or, any president to appoint With
his Department of justice somebody he will be able to
fully prosecute in essence. His VISION and i don't want

(01:50:26):
a bunch of bleeding hearts or right wing or whatever interfering.
AS civilian i don't want civilian people overlooking. OUR military
i Don't want i'm looking over. Our Courts This Civilian Complaint,
review BOARD the ccrb that we have sometimes. IS horrible
i don't. WANT that i don't want somebody who has

(01:50:47):
no idea what's going on to sit in and basically
second guests people who. ARE professionals i thank you for.
Your calls are it's a. Wonderful idea it. Sounds terrific
Absolutely not Larry On. Long island you're on another Side Of, Midnight,
wed lionel.

Speaker 10 (01:51:07):
GOOD morning, I am, I am i'm. STUCK around i
have to. BE honest i am your. WHITE friend i.
Am suffering. I'm hurting why are, you? HURTING sir i
met a, woman recently and this is THE truth. I
know i don't know WHO else i could talk to.

(01:51:28):
About this i'm an. Older gentleman i've been on my
own for the last couple, of YEARS and i met
this woman and. She's WONDERFUL and i didn't know until
the second time we met that she's full, of tattoos

(01:51:50):
She's inc i've never been around somebody Who's completely, inctya beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
And what's the problem that's, my problem, Said no so what's.
The problem you don't like, the ink so lever.

Speaker 16 (01:52:12):
Just.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
That, simple, well yeah if you don't like, the ink
if it bothers you, that much if you're in pain because, of,
tattoos lever this isn't worth. Your while find somebody who
does not. Have tattoos if tattoos mean that much, to
you give me if you ever stand by for. A
second i want to get do THIS because i find
this absolutely FASCINATING if i. Believe it eight hundred and
eight four eight nine two. Two two put that. Collar,

(01:52:34):
on hole will be right back, with you because this
is another Side of midnight With line how about the
line up? With you eight hundred eight four eight ninety two.
Two two this. Is fascinating let us go back to.
The phones we're talking to a man who is great in, great, pain, psychically.

(01:52:57):
Romantically emotionally larry on the, long One and larry has
met the woman of, his life but he finds most
of his chagrin and dismay and disgust that she is covered.
With tattoos is, That?

Speaker 10 (01:53:09):
Correct, larry well first, of all is, That? Correct larry
thank you For keeping thank you for keeping this in
perspective OF how i approach you, WITH this i. Mean
exaggeration you have a job. To do but is?

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
That true is that TRUE what i?

Speaker 10 (01:53:29):
JUST said i don't know what you. Just, said okay
let me try. It again.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Listen carefully, you're saying in, case somebody just in case
somebody just tuned in and, they're wondering who the hell is, This?
Guy larry what are we? Talking about this is called
resetting read. You anyway you have found that this woman that, you,
like love or think very, fondly of that you've been
single for, a while and you're, you say you're an.
Older person how old or? Are you how old?

Speaker 10 (01:53:55):
ARE you i am? Seventy?

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Two okay and you met this woman and how old?
Is she this woman that, you've met.

Speaker 10 (01:54:02):
She is in her, mid fifties.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Mid fifties and you, find out much to your chagrin,
later on that she is covered. With tattoos now you
didn't see this and, her clothing, her arms she was
never sleeveless or you just found out after, the fact
after you've fallen, for her that she's covered. With, TATTOOS
correct i have not stollen.

Speaker 10 (01:54:24):
For her it's only been a couple of weeks since.
We met, but whatever when we met SHE was i
didn't know she, was covered AND then i found out
she Is, inced.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Yeah now you've not seen? HER nude i, take, no,
Sir okay so How do? I'm curious how? Did you
how did you? See her did she take off? A
jacket were her? Arms covered where is? She inked what degree?
Of inkage it's Not Like. Jimmy duranty what kind of
inkage did She enjoy.

Speaker 10 (01:55:03):
The second time, we met she was sleeveless and she
was covered the rest of her body below. HER waist
i have no idea at. This point now a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
You did you bring this up?

Speaker 14 (01:55:17):
To?

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Her you did you address this? With her did, you,
SAY hey i find this morally Reprehensible and i'm disgusted,
by this or do you did you just keep your?

Speaker 10 (01:55:29):
Mouth shut you're disappointing me. RIGHT now i thought during
this conversation you would think more of me than a
person who would speak like that to. A, woman.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Oh do me A? Favorite larry first, of all do
me a favorite? Lighten up. Number one you're a seventy
two year old man and you're acting like the world
is over because you met a woman who's got a tattoo?
Or two, my question so do me? A favorite, lighten
up don't be. So serious so here's. My question why
don't you? Leave her this is, pay you, he says
not worth? Your time find. Somebody else what's? THE dilemma

(01:56:04):
i don't.

Speaker 10 (01:56:04):
UNDERSTAND it i haven't. Left her i'm asking you a.
Simple question if you met a woman who is tattooed
and you want you? Do it would you want to
nibble on a? Comic book would you want To lick?
POPEYE'S face, i, mean seriously this is This is you're.

(01:56:26):
Being silly i'm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
Being silly i'm. Being silly You are you're a seventy
two year. Old man let me let me get straight, With,
you larry let me. Get, straight okay. Let me you
don't have a lot of, options here. TRUST me i
don't know what you. LOOK like i don't know who,
you are but something tells me you don't have bevies
of women standing online waiting to. Meet you so you're

(01:56:51):
going to ask yourself. This QUESTION if i like SOMEBODY
and i enjoy, her personality, her SPIRIT am i going
to look the? Other Way because i've got some hang
up about. A tattoo if it's too much for you,
to handle dump her and. Be lonely if you might
want to reconsider, and say you, Know what i'm gonna
open up. My mind i'm gonna give it. A, SHOT
okay i don't, like it so what, Big deal i'll learn.

(01:57:13):
To it it's in, her soul it's in. Her personality that's,
what matters. Not ink and with all, DUE respect i
don't know what you, look like but chances are you're
Not exactly pierce. Brazening yourself so what's it?

Speaker 20 (01:57:27):
Gonna be?

Speaker 10 (01:57:28):
Bottom, line no do you have the nerve to let?
Me respond or you're gonna hang up?

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
On me you, Know, what larry you're? Boring me? Bottom
line what are you? Gonna do what are you?

Speaker 6 (01:57:38):
Gonna? Do?

Speaker 16 (01:57:39):
Larry one?

Speaker 10 (01:57:40):
NUMBER one i am an attractive man with women have
loved ME since i was sixteen. Years, old well.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
You know you should give those women. A call you
should give those non tattooed women. A call, Bottom, line
larry what's it? Gonna be let me just ask you
what's it? Gonna be.

Speaker 10 (01:58:01):
What's what? Gonna be?

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
Lined, Up, okay larry have a. Nice day call. Me
again eight hundred and eight four eight nine too. Too
too let's Go to let's Go to let's Go to
Sam In. New, jersey sam you're on another side of
bed Night.

Speaker 14 (01:58:15):
With.

Speaker 5 (01:58:15):
Lionel yeah i'm not.

Speaker 7 (01:58:17):
A lawyer my information is off. The INTERNET but i
wonder about selective incorporation Of The, fifth amendment and then
also about the presidential assuming the signatures on the pardons
are are held to be, the presidents that they also
selectively incorporated as protections under one of.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
The amendments are you talking about incorporation? By reference is
that what? You're, SAYING well i.

Speaker 7 (01:58:43):
Don't know there's some cases That the internet has talked.

Speaker 9 (01:58:46):
About that what is your what is?

Speaker 21 (01:58:48):
Your?

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Concern amendment what are you talking? About?

Speaker 7 (01:58:51):
INCORPORATION yeah i was, Thinking, that well, you Know The
fifth amendment of protection is supersedes the. State, law no
they can't. Say that, you know you can't Use The
fifth amendment to defend yourself against. STATE law i, Guess.

Speaker 1 (01:59:09):
Yes no you can't want to incorporated. With it it
is incorporated by Reference The. Fifth amendment incorporation in essence
is it kind of A partial i guess application of
the fifth and it applies to state governments through the
due process clause of The. Fourteenth amendment this is in corporation. By,
reference yes.

Speaker 7 (01:59:28):
Does the Signature the president's signature on?

Speaker 10 (01:59:31):
A pardon?

Speaker 7 (01:59:32):
Is that is that incorporated also as?

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
A protection do you know federal only? Federal laws only?

Speaker 8 (01:59:38):
Federal?

Speaker 7 (01:59:39):
Laws, oh okay, ALL right i just was curious. About
that thank you. Very much that's an.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
EXCELLENT question i. Appreciate that eight hundred and eight four,
eight nine two. To two this is incorporation. By reference
this is When The, supreme court in a series, of
cases found which of the bell of rights apply to,
the state and they Use the Privileges and immunities law
section Of The. Fourteenth amendment and the SIMILAR case i
Believe was Barren. Against baltimore and it's kind, of boring

(02:00:07):
but it does apply for the most part to state
governments as well As federal let's Go to Lenny In.
Westchester county you're on another Side of Midnight With Lionel, High.

Speaker 16 (02:00:21):
Lionel you're you're unbelievable look?

Speaker 9 (02:00:23):
To call is?

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
That guy That?

Speaker 16 (02:00:27):
GUY larry, i mean who knows what the tattoos?

Speaker 6 (02:00:30):
Look?

Speaker 21 (02:00:31):
Like?

Speaker 16 (02:00:31):
Too right she could have had. A tattoo why are
you you know who knows what those tattoos.

Speaker 14 (02:00:36):
Look like but let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
A question let me ask you a question just for.
A second i personally find a lot of tattoos to
be disgusting and vile and low rent and you know
that sort. Of thing BUT if i meet somebody who
is a WOMAN And i i'm getting along, with, spiritually
intellectually WHATEVER am i going to really? BE that, i

(02:01:01):
mean there's? A tattoo ink gonna really be that much of,
a problem especially when they're so, ubiquitous today it's not
even it's not, you know maybe in the in the
forties it might have been. A problem what are you in? The?
Circus lady what? Is it but think? About this isn't?
That sad they are so for that to? BOTHER you,
i mean and if it does, bother you do yourself

(02:01:23):
in this lady of favor and, just say you, know
what maybe some other, times anyway let me talk, to.

Speaker 6 (02:01:27):
Me.

Speaker 14 (02:01:27):
Sir sure and plus when you're talking to, THE woman,
i mean if there's tattoos on her knuckles and her neck,
and EVERYTHING and I mean i mean have to give.
Away too, but anyway first, of all with the suicide patient,
committing suicide considering pain is some day they're. Terminally ill

(02:01:47):
i'm sure the insurance companies are loving this because they're
off the hook with all the medications and the turn
treatments that would be obviously used and build to them
and they'll they'll get off the. With that so i'm'll
be surprised if They're behind curt. Number one but taking
back to what you were talking, about before because your show,

(02:02:08):
is organic it just evolves. From, itself yes the amig
goes goes through the, universe people but we.

Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
Don't know, it's interesting so interesting you. Say this we
don't know where it's going, to go and it's. So
interesting somebody will say Something and, i'll think you, know what,
that's good let's go in. That direction and it allows
ME because i have kind of a sort of a
like a template OF what i want to, talk about
but not really because sometimes the callers, provide something as

(02:02:39):
in that Last The Last. Troubled soul, but anyway what
do you think? About this i'm curious. About you you're,
my guest you're. My expert what do?

Speaker 14 (02:02:48):
You, think well it's pretty the, OTHER guy i think
he was A professional. Bb buster THAT'S what.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
I thought.

Speaker 16 (02:02:55):
He was, BUT anyways i believe like like the.

Speaker 14 (02:02:59):
Like The Movie, the blob the Way the blob just
kept going and taking over and as a Kid that
i'm probably sure you watched.

Speaker 16 (02:03:06):
The movie you didn't even know It was steve McQueen and,
the movies and it just takes on the life. Of
Itself but i'm more fascinated by people who are able
to just Come, into America, Like mommy tommy is like
and he's a citizen for. Seven years he's the mayor
of The biggest don't people get a little suspicious of
this that people that the people who run this country

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want the. Country invaded don't they? Understand that and they're
blaming a bunch of. College kids America is china's Version
Of Saturday.

Speaker 21 (02:03:37):
Night live who?

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Is blaming who is blaming? College?

Speaker 22 (02:03:41):
Kids oh if you listen to these, talk Shows these
republican or, conservative posts they beat their chest like a
gorilla when they say so oh more Than the.

Speaker 14 (02:03:52):
Bridge high school college kids or going from, the communists
and they're voting the man, and everything AND they're i
want to have to protect the Invasion.

Speaker 16 (02:04:01):
Of america protection of the invasion is the most, important thing,
you know do you Believe like clomo ran and So,
did mandany and the two of them combined got like
ninety percent of foreign vote to foreign Vote In New.
York city that's not. A coincidence that is something they've done.
By design, the people the corporate political establishment wants the,

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country invaded so they.

Speaker 1 (02:04:25):
Go around but how do you? Correct this how would you?
CORRECT this.

Speaker 16 (02:04:32):
I really believe if you listen to some of the,
callers statement.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
They now how would you forget? The callers how Would
you i've just, selected you theoretically on my in my
cabinet to. Correct this what would?

Speaker 14 (02:04:45):
YOU suggest i would suggest that the legal immigration is and.

Speaker 16 (02:04:51):
Did stop cold foreign countries are put. On notice you
send your people to, this country and you have to open,
your prisons and they've murdered people like that beautiful girl Down.
In georgia lak, you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
Said, wait wait you said legal immigration should. Be, Stopped
mom donnie has been in this country since he was
seven in nineteen ninety eight or whatever, it was, All
right so so he didn't just get here whatever he
was he was seven, Years, old okay so at least
he's been here, whatever that whatever, that means what would
you do you want to. Stop immigration no more immigration

(02:05:26):
period none nobody legal, not legal. Doesn't, matter, yeah no no.

Speaker 16 (02:05:30):
More immigration we've been the most generous in. The world
we've still Taking the managine.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
My question imagine. My question, you're saying under, your rule, no, immigration, none, legal.
Illegal nothing is that what?

Speaker 16 (02:05:43):
You're saying no legal, immigration stopped cold illegal? Immigration stop
what will?

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
That do what will?

Speaker 14 (02:05:51):
That do that will basically?

Speaker 3 (02:05:53):
Help?

Speaker 16 (02:05:54):
Us?

Speaker 14 (02:05:54):
Uh not people use a.

Speaker 16 (02:05:56):
WORD assimilation i don't think if you Go, To, dabor
michigan if you go to Neighborhoods In, new, york okay they're.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
Let me ask you somebody, somebody again you're talking about.
Something else if SOMEBODY says i will go through, THE
process i, will wait or whatever, IT is i will take,
THE oath i will take, THE test i, will swarm,
be Sworn and i'm a. Legal immigrant you're saying that
those people who do this have the same propensity or

(02:06:23):
tendency to be subversive and to seek ill against our
country as opposed to somebody who just, sneaks in somebody
who becomes a. Legal immigrant, you're thinking this is what
we've got to. Worry about and by, the way somebody
who comes to. This country and let's assume they are
a member. Of society let's say be, a family and

(02:06:43):
you know they just like your relatives and mine and.
Everybody else's is that what? You're Saying what.

Speaker 16 (02:06:49):
I'm saying is if you look at, the exhibit Any man danny,
Is illegal bomar. Is legal to leave is legal inside.

Speaker 9 (02:06:57):
This country we're gonna Ask Your.

Speaker 1 (02:06:59):
Bernie Sanders bernie sanders Is as american as you, Can get,
brooklyn born and he is he IS of i guess
Left Or. Democratic socialist what do we do? With him
there are people who believe this Who are. American born
this is not a foreign invasion type. Of thing there
are people who believe in whatever it is that they.

(02:07:20):
Believe it what do you do?

Speaker 16 (02:07:21):
With, That Well bernie sanders would be, a minority then
he'd be in this country talking with. His hands he's,
a millionaire owns, five homes but he'll be. A minority
you can't keep building up and sending in voters. And
reinforcements a million legal comming in every year. They're voting
how do You, Think.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
Delborn, michigan okay you have a, nice day, My, Friend
lenny thank you. SO much i there's Sometimes and i'm
not trying to be, rude here but when somebody speaks
in a circular stream over and or that's not what,
we're saying that's not. The issue let me ask you a.
Real question what is. The problem do you think democratic

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socialism or whatever this is we. Have had let me tell.
You something the, radical left if you want to use
that term of the sixties WITH eighty a And and
Bruce And bill ayers and weather underground, WITH bombs i
mean THEY were, i mean THIS was sds and this

(02:08:22):
today Is. Aying eh granted they're They're dearborn michigan In The.
United states In The. United states Let's Assume staten island
decided on its own, to infiltrate, to infiltrate hypothetically every

(02:08:44):
level of Government With. ITALIAN americans I, mean italians people
who Maybe they're english is not, so great but They're
from naples or all over The base rome.

Speaker 3 (02:08:55):
We have We.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
Have italians and then the, next thing, you know everywhere
you go They're. Speaking italian they're on the, city council
and they're in the school And these, Italians everywhere oh.
My god and then we start seeing to Get the
italian flag, is like wait, a minute then We've Got georgia.
Maloney references next thing, you know they start just taking
over like you, cannot believe but, you, see yeah But.

(02:09:20):
They're italian well we we kind of we kind Of
like italian. Doesn't matter could? That, happen sure it. Could
happen is there anything that could? Prevent? That, no no
unless you have some kind OF a, i know, some
rule some rule that says if you if you can
pass some some. Authenticity test you see the problem that,

(02:09:45):
we HAVE and i want you to understand this is
that we live. With, freedom okay we have freedoms and
the freedom to Be an american and the freedom to
extol the virtues of our constitution is the freedom to
destroy our culture you according, to you maybe not, to

(02:10:07):
me maybe not. To others saving with we have constitutional
protections and you can do things in this country that
there is no, provision against, for example and it works.
Both Ways, ANTHONY scalia i was watching a number of
his different LECTURES and i think It. Was lawrence which one?

(02:10:30):
Was it, but anyway this was the gay marriage or sod?
TO me i get, them confused sought to Me statue
and there is no protection In the constitution for homosexual
activity sought to me whatever you want to. Call, it, none,
None none there is no, Protection none but there is
nothing that protects you against it either that makes. Any

(02:10:57):
sense there is nothing that prevents you or from or
allows you from keeping these. Folks away but it doesn't
necessarily mean if you were to pass the statue by
the same joke that says, that this that gay marriage
is against, the law if that's what you wanted, to
do there may not necessarily be a constitution of protection,

(02:11:18):
against that unlike Loving. Against virginia not because we don't care,
about this But the constitution doesn't speak. To it So
what i'm trying to, say is when you Become, an
american get ready because the kind of you know what
that you've got to tolerate is give. An example a

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friend of mine Lives, in williamsburg very very, YOU know
i almost, said yuppie but you Know what i'm, talking
about kind of, a tech kind of. A lefty she
can stand that people are walking around constantly with either
his jobs or not burkers that's the, wrong term but

(02:12:05):
women head to toe. In black, he goes this isn't.
My country we got to do something, about this? Is
it how are you going to pass a law that
says that the person cannot, wear this cannot, wear this
especially if they claim religious reasons. For it and we
have the free exercise clause Of The. First, amendment remember

(02:12:29):
our country is so free that we are filled with
some of the stupidest laws and the stupidest protections that
allow us to do some of the stupidest. Things AVAILABLE
and i, TOLD her, i said how are. You listen
i'm the SAME way i get personally speaker say, OH
no i don't want some three o'clock in, the morning
some call to prayer like In deer born. OR wherever

(02:12:50):
i don't. Want that This. Is america We, speak english
and WE don't i don't know how to deal. WITH
this i don't care. FOR this i don't. WANT this
i don't. Want THIS but i can't. STOP it i can't,
say Okay the constitution's okay, for you but. Not you wait.

(02:13:13):
A Minute what there ARE people i know, WHO say
i don't want to live in a town THAT has
x amount of, black, People okay and there are people who.
Believe this there might be black people who may feel
the same way about white people or PEOPLE say i

(02:13:35):
don't want to Live with jewish People or. Islami people
you can. Say that that's the freedom. You have you
can say whatever, you want you can believe in it,
you want you can move anywhere. You, Can. Okay fine
the problem is as, A government i don't KNOW if
i can limit black folks or white Folks. OR italians

(02:13:55):
i can't. Do That. That's america we signed on. To
this we've got This. Damn constitution look At The. First
amendment what it allows you? To say oh, my god
WHAT about i don't Know what we've been. Through this
Remember When, tipper gore when we were worried about so

(02:14:16):
it seems so, simple then. So Honest so i'm, SO
innocent i, Should Say, first amendment what are you? Gonna
do let's go, to uh let's go to a Mike In.
South carolina ye're on another Side of Midnight.

Speaker 9 (02:14:30):
With, Lionel, Hello lionel yesh got through to you. In time,
YOU know i got to tell You something i've been listening,
in many. Many years. You know the guy to called
just before what was, The name but he was always See,
From MANHATTAN so i think he Thinks in sibyl like five,
different personalities, you know but those are some of the callers.

(02:14:52):
You get you were talking About The catholic Church And,
catholic school and we spoke. ABOUT that i was there, twelve, years.
Okay Uh and I'll never i'll never contribute a dying
To The. Catholic church why? Is, that well your dioceses
are closing left, and, right?

Speaker 1 (02:15:12):
Okay okay and why? Is that?

Speaker 9 (02:15:14):
You know why is that because there's some deviant, uh
yeah some.

Speaker 10 (02:15:19):
Deviant.

Speaker 9 (02:15:20):
Priest YEAH and I don't i don't paint with a.
Broad brush but when when the buses were, coming in,
you know the illegal aliens and planes were landing in
the cover, of darkness who was picking? For That The?
Catholic church, SO no, I uh i've seen it, all.

Speaker 1 (02:15:39):
Well in, some respects in, some women in, some respects
there Were The. Catholic church by, the, way then is
Not The. Catholic, church now there was a time in
this country when when parishes and dioceses in the fifties,
and sixties when they really this. Is, TRUE now i
know this, sounds weird but when they did not understand

(02:16:01):
what this. Attraction was and plus they're in the business
of of forgiveness and confession. And reconciliation so, they thought
you know what, we'll do let's kind of we'll move these,
parish priests kind of like they move the the The
the orcas and the killer whales. At SeaWorld, somebody kills,
you know. A trainer we moved. The anyway so later

(02:16:23):
on they realized this, is stupid and they also covered.
It up and that's where that pretty much is over.
Much too it might be, Too late so you're right.
About that and there's a lot of things that and
that was at the that was at the. Parish level
Now The, catholic Church The Church, saint Peter, The, vatican

(02:16:43):
catholicism it's a different, story, altogether.

Speaker 9 (02:16:49):
Oh without without. A doubt but, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Make sure you differentiate.

Speaker 9 (02:16:55):
The two, well, yeah yeah and it's the it's not
the same as it, once was.

Speaker 1 (02:17:02):
That's.

Speaker 9 (02:17:02):
True yeah remember remember, Confession line bless, me FATHER for
i have said it's been, quite professions, you know but
YOU know, i Said Enough hail marys and our fathers
to last me.

Speaker 1 (02:17:15):
Three, lifetimes okay, but OKAY we're, I know i, appreciate
this and we're just we're just throwing a lot of stuff,
out there and we're gonna be anecdotal and trying to,
be COMEDIC and i. Appreciate this my question he, Is
this do you believe in the Theology, of Catholicism The,
apostolic Church, the pope the. Whole bit i'm not going
to go To the, Apostolic creator but do you believe

(02:17:38):
In The? Catholic church not, the diocese Not? Not father, you?

Speaker 9 (02:17:43):
Know CALLAHAN but, I said i said to friends and
cousins and, you, know Listen The. Catholic, Church uh i'll
always do?

Speaker 1 (02:17:54):
You believe i'm asking you. A question do you Believe?
In catholicism are You? A?

Speaker 9 (02:18:01):
Catholic, Yes yes I'm? A, catholic okay?

Speaker 1 (02:18:07):
VERY good i am A start and what does? That
mean what does? That mean if you don't go, to
church or don't, trust anybody or don't you don't have,
To donate but what does? That mean how do you
how do you exhibit and exercise? Your faith what do?
You do what does? That mean.

Speaker 9 (02:18:24):
That means i'm still dedicated To The, catholic CHURCH but.

Speaker 1 (02:18:27):
I don't and what do you do to Show your
what do you do to show? Your dedication what do.

Speaker 9 (02:18:31):
You do it's in, My, heart lionel WHAT could i?

Speaker 1 (02:18:33):
Say it in? Your heart?

Speaker 9 (02:18:34):
My, heart, okay yeah it's in.

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
Your heart it's. PRETTY easy i mean it's. PRETTY easy
i would venture to say that that's, not enough because that's, like, saying,
LOOK honey i, Love you you're in. My heart you're just.
Never home you don't you, don't cooperate you're, you know
you don't pay. For anything but in, my, HEART honey i,
LOVE you i love. The kids i'm just. Not, there listen, You,

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know mike one of the one of the hardest things,
to DO and i find, this fascinating is that everybody
deserves to determine whatever it is that their, faith is
however they want to, phrase it however they want to
call whatever whatever they want to. It's fine But what
i'm saying is is that it gets such a. Bad

(02:19:21):
rap it gets such A and i'm a, retired guy
so it doesn't really matter to me one way or.
The OTHER but i want you to understand is differentiate
between that which happened here in, this country because, remember
something the Majority In, south america where the where the
Plurality of, CATHOLICS are, i mean the huge percentages they didn't,

(02:19:44):
have this and there are People that romas, excuse me
That's an. American problem we didn't have. This here this
wasn't endemic or Inherent. In catholicism that Was an, american
thing not in Not, in Ecuador in Spain. Or, italy
here so keep in, MIND that i thank you. So
much please call me against her eight hundred eighty four

(02:20:06):
eight nine two. Two two we always like to see
things from our point, of view from Here. From america
remember the question they asked, years ago who was the
greatest athlete of?

Speaker 16 (02:20:18):
All time?

Speaker 1 (02:20:19):
The Greatest and americans Would Say muhammad Ali R. Babe
ruth the world, would Say. Peleis ah you see how
we only see things through the eyes of our particular
prism eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two
more coming up on another side of midnight with me
a linel The great, Mono dbango ladies, and gentlemen on.

(02:20:53):
Being leievable this, is incredible still one of. My favorites
this is my me from. HIGH school i love this
moona your your. MOONA yours i have no idea what.
This means it, might be it might be, BY overall,
i know, my friends we are getting into the, last

(02:21:16):
vestiges the last uh sections. Of this let's go back to.
The phone let's Go to let's Go to Robert In.
North carolina you're on another side of Midnight With, Lionel Hi.

Speaker 21 (02:21:27):
Lionel okay solution to us, our problem, our problems problem
problem that is not problem? With commies who is that

(02:21:47):
arrest all? The commies.

Speaker 1 (02:21:51):
How do we articulate who is? A commedis.

Speaker 21 (02:21:55):
By their words and, their actions, they ARE what, i
think to Overthrow The united States.

Speaker 1 (02:22:02):
Of america what about somebody who is a communist who
loves this country but wants to peacefully convert it to
communism and Has, been america perhaps maybe even, a veteran.
Pays taxes there's This Pesky first. Amendment thing what do
we do? About that.

Speaker 21 (02:22:23):
We can, try them try them under what sir court?

Speaker 6 (02:22:28):
Of?

Speaker 1 (02:22:28):
Law okay and what will be charged? Them with.

Speaker 21 (02:22:33):
The ones that, aren't citizens conspiracy to Overthrow The united States?
Of america the ones we can also, add, Treason.

Speaker 1 (02:22:44):
Okay but they would say, to you and by, the,
way treason as, you know is giving aid or comfort
to the enemy or somehow. Doing something There's This first
amendment problem in. This country as, you know in, these
seventies we allowed in the City of skokie the plan
to march. In parade this is, the clan And The

(02:23:05):
supreme court was pretty clear about the fact That Our
first amendment allows us the ability to espouse things which
are well not. Necessarily popular how do you tell somebody
that they are not able to Utilize The first amendment
and to establish or to espouse communism if they're not,
hurting anybody threatening, The overthrow they're just saying this IS

(02:23:28):
what i think. Makes sense how would you arrest them
and Violate the constitution in some type of free. Speech
tyranny how would you, do?

Speaker 21 (02:23:36):
That sir that's. A protest this goes well. Beyond protests
what is a protest what they did in Scope. Of, Illinois, no.

Speaker 1 (02:23:47):
No you want to arrest somebody who is a communist
and somebody who espouses, Who says i'm, A communist i,
believe in, you know whatever, it is the, communist manifesto
whatever the particular, you know centralized ownership of production and
means blah. Blah blah so when they, say that let's
say they're a, College professor let's say they're just they're

(02:24:08):
just they, believe this and they're not. Hurting anybody you
want to arrest them just for, saying that just for.
Thinking that.

Speaker 9 (02:24:18):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (02:24:19):
Just, that, no no you're. Saying, communist no a communist
has nothing to do with overthrowing. The country there's nothing
to do. With this but if you want the country
to convert, to communism albeit kind of stupid, you're saying
you would have. Them arrested isn't that so talitarian? It

(02:24:40):
self isn't that what we would have in a? Communist
country as you, would believe you want to arrest people
because they're thinking something that you. Don't like they're. Thinking
it they're not, doing anything they're just. Thinking it they're
saying they're.

Speaker 21 (02:24:53):
Just doing things to overthrow. This country what.

Speaker 1 (02:24:57):
Are, they? Doing sir.

Speaker 21 (02:25:01):
They are using and overtaking the political, Process now.

Speaker 1 (02:25:05):
But that's not overthrowing. The country that's exercising their right
to change the course of. The country, my friend you have,
a great ne. Glorious day thank you so much for.
Your tempting by, the way we need to hear people,
Like that we. REALLY do i don't know if it's on,
the level but it's important that we understand what people
like that, sound like, because remember Being an americans of thisen,

(02:25:27):
is tough being able to grant freedom and, Then, Say
okay i'll grant you the freedom to saying and, think
things but don't go. Too far make sure it doesn't
in any way disagree with my. Particular vision in, Any Event,
Nature Boy, bill lee, Thank, you jackson, thank you thank you.
So much, my friends please follow me on YouTube At

(02:25:50):
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week i leave you with, these words, my friend, this Valedictory,
this Siona the, monkey's dead the. Show's over sue you.

Speaker 6 (02:26:02):
That dead

Speaker 5 (02:26:08):
Mhm