July 15, 2025 • 27 mins
In this episode, Lauren explores the spiritual reasoning behind why some babies are born prematurely. Drawing from her experience as a NICU nurse and her connections with baby souls, Lauren shares insights into how prematurity can be a planned and purposeful part of a soul's journey. She discusses the varying experiences of premature babies and their parents, and communicates with the soul of a baby girl, who chose to be born at 24 weeks.
Through her story, Lauren explores the growth, challenges, and learning opportunities that come with premature births, offering a unique perspective on this often difficult experience.
00:00 Introduction to Prematurity
00:10 Understanding Premature Birth
02:25 A NICU Nurse's Perspective
04:30 Spiritual Insights on Premature Birth
05:54 Planned Prematurity: A Soul's Choice
14:12 Unplanned Prematurity: Navigating the Unknown
21:06 A Soul's Journey: Lavender's Story
27:28 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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(00:03):
Welcome to Babies from Beyond, the podcast that gives all
babies a voice whether they are still in spirit or already earth
side. I'm Lauren Dionysius, a former
registered NICU nurse turned baby soul communicator, and I'm
here to share the wisdom of today's babies to guide you on
(00:25):
your motherhood journey. So today I wanted to talk to you
about prematurity, why some babies are born premature and
some babies are not. So for those of you who may not
be aware, a premature baby is generally defined as a baby born
(00:49):
less than 37 completed weeks. And at the time of recording,
the earliest a baby can survive outside of the womb, with our
current technology anyway, is 23weeks because that's when they
have enough lung tissue generally for a machine or a
ventilator to be able to do the breathing for them.
(01:11):
So unless babies have enough lung tissue developed for gas
exchange, which is the movement of oxygen and carbon dioxide
across the lung membranes to facilitate basic life, when it
comes to to to being a human on the earth, which is the breath,
then if they don't have enough lung tissue, then they're unable
(01:33):
to survive. And generally babies who are
less than 23 weeks have not developed enough lung tissue to
sustain their life through a machine.
So prematurity then is anywhere from 23 weeks completed
gestation to 37 weeks completed gestation or pregnancy.
(01:54):
So this is a very wide range. And a baby who is born at 23
weeks is going to have a very different journey and a very
different start to life than a baby born at 34 or 35 weeks who
is more a late preterm baby who is pretty well developed.
(02:14):
So there's a huge vastness or variability in the premature
baby's journey because it's it'sover across such a long timeline
really. So I want to keep this episode
more general because what I havecome to notice is that a lot of
(02:35):
the themes can be generalized across that timeline or that
lifespan. It's often more a question of
the degree or the intensity thatthat is different.
(02:56):
So for many years, as I worked as a registered NICU nurse, I
really struggled with those babies who were born
prematurely, those babies who for whatever reason needed to
come early for the health and safety of them or of their
mothers. And we're having this very
(03:16):
difficult and often challenging start to life.
And I didn't understand why a baby would choose this.
Like, I could not compute that in my mind.
I didn't understand it. And keeping in mind too, that
working as a NICU nurse and working in the nursery, only one
in 10 babies end up in the nursery, which means 90% of
(03:40):
births, the babies are OK and don't need to visit us.
But those 10% that do come, theywere 100% of my world.
You know, I didn't have exposureto normal births, I didn't have
exposure to healthy babies for the majority of my career.
And so this gave me a really skewed version or, or
(04:04):
perspective of babies and birth,but it also gave me this
incredible access to these soulsand being able to learn more
about their journeys and why they would end up there.
And you know, this was only a question I thought to ask in the
last few years of my career. It wasn't something that I
(04:25):
thought about early. I just thought that it was all
wrong. I felt that it shouldn't happen,
that babies shouldn't be in Nikuor special care, that something
has gone wrong, somebody stuffedup, or there's been just a
random accident or incident, or sometimes things happen.
(04:46):
I was never able to understand it, but also never was able to
receive an answer that that madesense to me, something that I
could make peace with. And it was only after connecting
and communicating with babies and what they shared with me
about their journey that I was able to finally find some peace
and some understanding about whythis happens.
(05:09):
And the biggest thing for me is that I've learnt in all areas of
life is that these things happen.
If things were not meant to happen, then they wouldn't
happen to me. It's as simple as that.
So when I was able to understandthat, I started to think, OK,
(05:31):
why? Why is this happening?
If babies are being born prematurely like all over the
world? And there's special facilities
and hospitals built purposefullyto support these babies, and
there's research, trials and investigations and all of these
(05:51):
things that are trying to support these babies and make
their journeys better. Like there's obviously a reason
behind it because as I said, if it wasn't meant to happen, if a
baby was not meant to end up in Niku or special care, then they
wouldn't be there. So as I started to ask why, then
(06:16):
I finally started to get some answers.
And that's what I wanted to share in today's episode.
So what I've come to learn is that for some babies, it's very
clear that they had decided to start their journey as a
premature baby. It was, how can I say this,
(06:36):
orchestrated on the divine levelin the bigger picture for this
to happen. And often situations are set up,
whether it's a complication in pregnancy or something that
happens in birth, that is, you know, as much as our human mind
can understand anyway, planned or provided on the divine level
(07:01):
in order for this outcome to unfold, in order for a baby to
be born prematurely. And for these babies, what I
found with them is many of them were old souls, souls who had
been to earth before, probably been hundreds of times before
they knew the drill. The majority of them come as
(07:22):
normal babies, like 37 weeks or more generally fairly healthy.
They been there, done that. They knew what it was like to to
start their journey here on Earth as what we were defined as
a a term baby. But they also shared that what
makes us think that a term baby is right and a premature baby is
(07:46):
wrong? And that's one thing I really
had to shift in my own mind. They're just different.
It's like, yes, OK, a term baby obviously has a lot more meat on
them. They are more developed, they
are better adjusted to the earth.
They are able to feed better. They can do things on their own.
(08:08):
But what's to say that a premature baby or their birth is
wrong? What I learned is that these
souls were choosing to have a different experience of being a
human, to have a different experience of those first days,
weeks, months as a little personon the earth where they did need
more support, where they did need more guidance.
(08:30):
And you know, as hard as it can be, do experience more what we
would describe as trauma in manyways.
And it's not just the physical, for example, like the physical
damage that can happen for a baby that's on long term
ventilation. I mean, things are different now
because the interventions have become much more gentle and much
(08:53):
better at supporting these babies.
But I know when I first started,you could easily have a baby on
a ventilator for months on end. And, you know, the damage that
that does to their lungs, even though it's to support them and
to keep them alive, you know, itstill caused them a lot of
issues. And as I said, things have
changed. Things have shifted.
(09:13):
Now there's much more gentle ways of of ventilation, but
there's still physical effects of being born prematurely,
whether that's around growth, whether it's the guts, it's the
development, it's the brain development, all of these
things. There's countless struggles that
premature babies can have over normal, if we can say that term
(09:37):
babies. But from a soul perspective,
they get to have this very different experience of life.
And they often also get to set up the wound first to have that
separation, to have that trauma,to have that kind of being, you
(10:00):
know, behind the 8 ball from theget go.
And, you know, that sense of abandonment or that sense of
fear or that sense of lonelinessor isolation or all of these
things that can be planted from birth.
And this isn't a judgement to the medical system or to any
(10:25):
parents around this. It's just that the reality, you
know, when a baby is separated from their parents for whatever
reason, it's going to impact them.
It's going to cause trauma. But when I tune into these
babies, they're not distressed about that.
So many of them and said, well, of course, when I come here to
learn about abandonment, I know I have a big wound around that.
(10:45):
It's happened. I've experienced a lot of
abandonment in previous lives. And you know what, I've come
here to have a different experience of that and to have
the opportunity to see it from adifferent perspective and to
make choices and to grow and to learn around that.
And so for me, a really powerfulway for me to to learn and grow,
go and have experiences around that is to be born as a
(11:07):
premature baby and to start off life separated from my mother.
This is the types of informationthat babies share around this.
So there's no distress, there's no feeling of being wrong,
there's no resentment. It's just this is how I plan to
start my life. Like this is this is what I
(11:28):
needed. Like I wanted to experience this
wound so that I'd go, I could goon to explore that.
And then depending on their lifepath and their journey and the
decisions they make will depend on whether they allow that that
wound to continue to affect themand have history repeating
itself, or whether they choose to learn from that, to grow
(11:50):
through that, to rise above that, to support others with
that. So on the soul level, it can be
very purposeful and and very powerful to have the trauma,
have the wound happen straight away.
(12:10):
There's nothing we need to protect babies from.
Because another thing is we really need to start seeing
these babies as these wise, powerful, mature beings that
they are, like we all are on thesoul level.
And to stop seeing these babies as these clueless, defenseless
(12:31):
little clean slates. Because in my experience,
they're not, you know, they all come with baggage.
They all come with past life history.
They all come with wounds, with traumas that they're here to
heal or learn, new traumas to experience, to learn and grow
through. So they're not clean slates.
(12:53):
They're not these innocent little beings.
They may seem like it because their energy is very pure when
they're born, but they all come with a history just like we all
do. And so that's another thing that
really helped me to see these babies differently, that they
weren't clean slates. They came to to have this
(13:15):
journey. And so many of the babies that I
work with and like, we don't want a clean slate.
Like seriously, what's the pointof that?
How do we grow from a clean slate?
We don't, and I'm always amazed and surprised by the willingness
of the soul to grow and to learnthrough their human experiences,
(13:38):
especially the experiences that we as humans really, really
struggle with. So that's been a real eye opener
for me. And so that's the souls that
where prematurity is planned. It's very intentional, it's very
purposeful. As I said, there's often things
set up during pregnancy to almost ensure that that's how it
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happens because that's what theyneed.
That's their life purpose in many ways is to have these
experiences that they can then learn and grow through in their
life. So that's one part of the souls
that I communicated with one cohort, I guess you could say of
these souls. Another cohort was babies that
(14:29):
were more surprised where they were.
They were a little bit, OK, what's going on here?
Like, how did I end up here? They're a little disorientated,
but again, in my experience, these souls, while they may not
have planned it or decided, yes,this is how I'm going to start
(14:51):
my life. They always know and I don't
know how they know this, but they always know on some level
that it's a possibility. And I think that's important to
remember because with any birth,with any pregnancy, there's
always the possibility of, of loss.
(15:12):
During our, our lifetime, we have many different, what I call
exit points. These times in our life where
our soul can make a decision to leave.
And during pregnancy is one of the most powerful and potent
times for a soul to leave. And often, as we've mentioned in
(15:32):
previous episodes, souls will choose to take those exit
points. And it's like this sliding door
type type experience that's going on.
But what I've learned is that All Souls who are coming to
Earth have some kind of plan. And we've talked about this, but
as with all plans, they don't always go to plan, if that makes
(15:55):
sense. And so while there can be a
rough outline, a rough guide, what I find is that there's also
room for movement. There's also flexibility.
I don't believe that anyone, either on Earth or in spirit for
that matter, can know exactly what's going to happen.
You know, it can be highly orchestrated, like I've just
(16:17):
mentioned with some premature babies, but a lot of things,
even spirit doesn't know how it's going to unfold until it
happens. But the way I tend to see it is
there's different timelines. And look, I think there's
hundreds probably of timelines available to us in any given
moment, depending on what path we choose to take or what
(16:38):
decisions we make or our behaviour, our actions, all of
these things. And so with birth, there's also
that, and I'm going to do a separate episode on the birth
portal because it's a pretty wild one, but it's also very,
very unpredictable. And So what I've learned is that
souls approaching the birth portal, they know on some level
(16:59):
they can kind of see the way through, but there's all these
other possibilities as well, depending on how literally each
moment unfolds will lead to the next, which eventually will
allow a particular timeline to unfold.
But even Spirit won't doesn't know exactly what that is.
So babies could come to Earth orapproach the birth portal with a
(17:22):
few different options that even they can see.
It's like it could go this way, it could go that way, this might
happen, that may not happen, maybe it will.
But what tends to happen is, theway I see it anyway, is that one
tends to feel more stronger thanthe other and all the most
likely from where they are before going into labour and all
(17:46):
of these things. And if you want to learn more
about this, I did do an episode early on.
I will put it in the show notes for you around understanding
timing and timelines where I talk more about this.
So with these premature babies, they often know it's a
possibility. It's like, well, I thought it
(18:06):
could happen. I knew it was a possibility, but
I wasn't really sure how it would unfold.
And again, coming back to why souls are coming to earth and
what they're here to learn and grow through, there's also
different ways to have those experiences as well.
And as I mentioned previously, with some babies, it's it's
prematurity is a great way to set up that original wound if if
(18:28):
that's what they're looking for.Whereas others, they could also
have the wound of abandonment orseparation, loneliness, all of
these things that can that they're here to learn.
But it's like 1 opportunity is through birth.
One opportunity or way to set that up is through being born as
(18:49):
a premature baby. Or it might not be until they're
a teenager or an adult where they have a a relationship
that's really deeply causes or triggers A wound around
abandonment, for example. Sometimes there's a little
(19:11):
flexibility in how those wounds or those traumas can be
initiated, like what can be the initial situation or trauma that
pierces those that creates that experience for us here on Earth.
So, but even for these babies who find themselves in the
nursery, I knew it was a possibility.
Weren't really sure how the birth portal was going to
(19:32):
unfold. Not sure where they'd end up.
Even those babies, even though they tend to be more surprised
and confused and disorientated, they're still not resentful.
They're just like, well, now I need to navigate this journey.
And that's what I find is a hugedifference between the soul and
the human. And that's that the soul is very
accepting it. It's just like, OK, we're here
(19:55):
now. What do we do now?
What's our next step? Whereas generally us humans will
resist it to the NTH degree. So as I said, these souls,
they're not distressed. They are like, OK, this is where
we're going now. This is where we are and we will
do what we can do to navigate through this or journey through
(20:16):
this and more with a sense of curiosity, almost like an
adventure, which sounds crazy. It's like, how can a unplanned
prematurity feel like an adventure?
But on the soul level it does because it's unpredictable, it's
uncertain, it's unknown, and forthe soul that's a playground,
but for us humans it's can be very painful and very
(20:38):
challenging. Been feeling a soul around me
for a little while even before Istarted recording this episode.
This is a feminine feeling soul and her name is Lavender which
is strange. I don't often get the names of
souls, but I feel like she has some wisdom to share with us
(21:01):
around this topic. I feel like she is already here
on the earth as a baby girl and was born as an early Prem.
I'm feeling around the 24 week mark and I feel like she wants
to share some insights and guidance around her journey as a
planned premature baby. Born at 24 weeks as a baby girl.
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I knew what I was coming into. It wasn't a surprise for me.
I wasn't shocked. I wasn't devastated.
I wasn't traumatized. I knew this was how I wanted to
start my life. I knew that it would be
something different for me. I knew that it would be a new
experience for me, and I'm here to learn about the new.
I want to understand the newnessof the Earth.
(21:54):
I don't want to do the same things that I've already done in
the past. What's the point of that?
How can they serve me? How can they help me grow?
I've been there, done that. I want to have new experiences
and my experience being born at 24 weeks was very challenging
for my human self and also for my parents.
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I saw a side of them that was very difficult even for me to
see. I saw their pain, I saw their
wounds, I saw all the sorest parts of themselves being
triggered almost on a daily basis by myself and my journey,
by the environment that we're in, by the staff.
(22:38):
It was really hard for me to witness that in them.
But I could also see their souls.
I could see how much they were learning and growing and
expanding. And even though this experience
was literally ripping their hearts wide open, what was so
beautiful for me to see was how wide their hearts were.
And I needed this from them. For them to support me in the
(23:02):
way that I needed to be supported, in order for them to
parent me in the way that I needed them to be parented, they
needed to have their hearts wideopen.
They were so closed down before.They were so shut down not only
to the outside world, but also to each other.
And during my experience, I was able to see that openness again.
(23:26):
And that openness, even though Iknow it was challenging for them
and traumatizing for them, and still is, even though I'm three
years old now. What has been so powerful is our
journey together. I feel the intensity of their
love for me so much more deeply than they would have had
capacity for before. And so this has really supported
(23:51):
me on my journey and it's helpedthem to love me in the way that
I love them. Because they're more open to
love now. Because love took them to parts
of themselves that they didn't know existed, let alone had felt
before. And while they do not see this
in the same way I do, I'm OK with that because it's really
(24:15):
supporting me on my journey. And I knew my journey was going
to be difficult. I knew that being born so
premature, it was going to be very challenging for my physical
body, for my energy field, and it was also going to affect me
for the rest of my life. But I was ready for that.
I was up for that. And I was actually excited for
(24:37):
that journey because it's also opened me.
It's allowed me to have a very different experience of the
earth and a very different beginning for my life.
I appreciate life so much more now.
I had to work hard to stay here on the earth.
There were many, many times where I could have left.
(24:58):
It would have been so easy for me to leave.
Being born at 24 weeks, I had many opportunities to be able to
leave the earth. But every single time I chose to
keep going. I chose to survive.
I chose to say yes and this is going to set me up.
It already has set me up for such a powerful journey ahead
(25:21):
when now I get to say yes and I know that I can follow through.
I know that I can commit. I know that I can stay the path
because I did it and I continue to do it every single day.
So please know that it wasn't a mistake.
It wasn't something gone wrong. It wasn't something that
(25:42):
shouldn't have happened for me. It was very purposeful and has
been so powerful on my journey. I have joy around my journey.
I am proud of the journey that Ihave undertaken.
I am proud of of how it has prepared me for the journey
ahead. And the same with my parents.
(26:02):
They also, every single time they had to say yes, even when
they were being told no. They had to keep the faith, they
had to keep the hope going even when they didn't know how they
could find it again. But they continued.
And so we've had the same lessonin many ways, just from
different perspectives. And this has united us and
(26:24):
actually connected us in a much more deeper way, a deeper way
than we could ever have had. If I'd born, been born naturally
and healthy at term, there's no way we would have the depth of
connection that we do now. So for this reason alone, let
alone all the other reasons out there, I am grateful.
(26:45):
I am grateful for my journey. I am grateful for their journey.
And I'm so glad that I was able to come to Earth in this way.
I'm just going to leave this episode here, leave you with the
energy, with this words. Be gentle, allow the energy to
(27:10):
sink in if it resonates, park itif it doesn't, but be gentle
with yourselves. Thank you for tuning in to
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(27:31):
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you. Until next time, trust your
journey and your baby. Take care.
Welcome to Babies from Beyond, the podcast that gives all
babies a voice whether they are still in spirit or already earth
side. I'm Lauren Dionysius, a former
registered NICU nurse turned baby soul communicator, and I'm
here to share the wisdom of today's babies to guide you on
(00:25):
your motherhood journey. So today I wanted to talk to you
about prematurity, why some babies are born premature and
some babies are not. So for those of you who may not
be aware, a premature baby is generally defined as a baby born
(00:49):
less than 37 completed weeks. And at the time of recording,
the earliest a baby can survive outside of the womb, with our
current technology anyway, is 23weeks because that's when they
have enough lung tissue generally for a machine or a
ventilator to be able to do the breathing for them.
(01:11):
So unless babies have enough lung tissue developed for gas
exchange, which is the movement of oxygen and carbon dioxide
across the lung membranes to facilitate basic life, when it
comes to to to being a human on the earth, which is the breath,
then if they don't have enough lung tissue, then they're unable
(01:33):
to survive. And generally babies who are
less than 23 weeks have not developed enough lung tissue to
sustain their life through a machine.
So prematurity then is anywhere from 23 weeks completed
gestation to 37 weeks completed gestation or pregnancy.
(01:54):
So this is a very wide range. And a baby who is born at 23
weeks is going to have a very different journey and a very
different start to life than a baby born at 34 or 35 weeks who
is more a late preterm baby who is pretty well developed.
(02:14):
So there's a huge vastness or variability in the premature
baby's journey because it's it'sover across such a long timeline
really. So I want to keep this episode
more general because what I havecome to notice is that a lot of
(02:35):
the themes can be generalized across that timeline or that
lifespan. It's often more a question of
the degree or the intensity thatthat is different.
(02:56):
So for many years, as I worked as a registered NICU nurse, I
really struggled with those babies who were born
prematurely, those babies who for whatever reason needed to
come early for the health and safety of them or of their
mothers. And we're having this very
(03:16):
difficult and often challenging start to life.
And I didn't understand why a baby would choose this.
Like, I could not compute that in my mind.
I didn't understand it. And keeping in mind too, that
working as a NICU nurse and working in the nursery, only one
in 10 babies end up in the nursery, which means 90% of
(03:40):
births, the babies are OK and don't need to visit us.
But those 10% that do come, theywere 100% of my world.
You know, I didn't have exposureto normal births, I didn't have
exposure to healthy babies for the majority of my career.
And so this gave me a really skewed version or, or
(04:04):
perspective of babies and birth,but it also gave me this
incredible access to these soulsand being able to learn more
about their journeys and why they would end up there.
And you know, this was only a question I thought to ask in the
last few years of my career. It wasn't something that I
(04:25):
thought about early. I just thought that it was all
wrong. I felt that it shouldn't happen,
that babies shouldn't be in Nikuor special care, that something
has gone wrong, somebody stuffedup, or there's been just a
random accident or incident, or sometimes things happen.
(04:46):
I was never able to understand it, but also never was able to
receive an answer that that madesense to me, something that I
could make peace with. And it was only after connecting
and communicating with babies and what they shared with me
about their journey that I was able to finally find some peace
and some understanding about whythis happens.
(05:09):
And the biggest thing for me is that I've learnt in all areas of
life is that these things happen.
If things were not meant to happen, then they wouldn't
happen to me. It's as simple as that.
So when I was able to understandthat, I started to think, OK,
(05:31):
why? Why is this happening?
If babies are being born prematurely like all over the
world? And there's special facilities
and hospitals built purposefullyto support these babies, and
there's research, trials and investigations and all of these
(05:51):
things that are trying to support these babies and make
their journeys better. Like there's obviously a reason
behind it because as I said, if it wasn't meant to happen, if a
baby was not meant to end up in Niku or special care, then they
wouldn't be there. So as I started to ask why, then
(06:16):
I finally started to get some answers.
And that's what I wanted to share in today's episode.
So what I've come to learn is that for some babies, it's very
clear that they had decided to start their journey as a
premature baby. It was, how can I say this,
(06:36):
orchestrated on the divine levelin the bigger picture for this
to happen. And often situations are set up,
whether it's a complication in pregnancy or something that
happens in birth, that is, you know, as much as our human mind
can understand anyway, planned or provided on the divine level
(07:01):
in order for this outcome to unfold, in order for a baby to
be born prematurely. And for these babies, what I
found with them is many of them were old souls, souls who had
been to earth before, probably been hundreds of times before
they knew the drill. The majority of them come as
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normal babies, like 37 weeks or more generally fairly healthy.
They been there, done that. They knew what it was like to to
start their journey here on Earth as what we were defined as
a a term baby. But they also shared that what
makes us think that a term baby is right and a premature baby is
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wrong? And that's one thing I really
had to shift in my own mind. They're just different.
It's like, yes, OK, a term baby obviously has a lot more meat on
them. They are more developed, they
are better adjusted to the earth.
They are able to feed better. They can do things on their own.
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But what's to say that a premature baby or their birth is
wrong? What I learned is that these
souls were choosing to have a different experience of being a
human, to have a different experience of those first days,
weeks, months as a little personon the earth where they did need
more support, where they did need more guidance.
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And you know, as hard as it can be, do experience more what we
would describe as trauma in manyways.
And it's not just the physical, for example, like the physical
damage that can happen for a baby that's on long term
ventilation. I mean, things are different now
because the interventions have become much more gentle and much
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better at supporting these babies.
But I know when I first started,you could easily have a baby on
a ventilator for months on end. And, you know, the damage that
that does to their lungs, even though it's to support them and
to keep them alive, you know, itstill caused them a lot of
issues. And as I said, things have
changed. Things have shifted.
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Now there's much more gentle ways of of ventilation, but
there's still physical effects of being born prematurely,
whether that's around growth, whether it's the guts, it's the
development, it's the brain development, all of these
things. There's countless struggles that
premature babies can have over normal, if we can say that term
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babies. But from a soul perspective,
they get to have this very different experience of life.
And they often also get to set up the wound first to have that
separation, to have that trauma,to have that kind of being, you
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know, behind the 8 ball from theget go.
And, you know, that sense of abandonment or that sense of
fear or that sense of lonelinessor isolation or all of these
things that can be planted from birth.
And this isn't a judgement to the medical system or to any
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parents around this. It's just that the reality, you
know, when a baby is separated from their parents for whatever
reason, it's going to impact them.
It's going to cause trauma. But when I tune into these
babies, they're not distressed about that.
So many of them and said, well, of course, when I come here to
learn about abandonment, I know I have a big wound around that.
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It's happened. I've experienced a lot of
abandonment in previous lives. And you know what, I've come
here to have a different experience of that and to have
the opportunity to see it from adifferent perspective and to
make choices and to grow and to learn around that.
And so for me, a really powerfulway for me to to learn and grow,
go and have experiences around that is to be born as a
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premature baby and to start off life separated from my mother.
This is the types of informationthat babies share around this.
So there's no distress, there's no feeling of being wrong,
there's no resentment. It's just this is how I plan to
start my life. Like this is this is what I
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needed. Like I wanted to experience this
wound so that I'd go, I could goon to explore that.
And then depending on their lifepath and their journey and the
decisions they make will depend on whether they allow that that
wound to continue to affect themand have history repeating
itself, or whether they choose to learn from that, to grow
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through that, to rise above that, to support others with
that. So on the soul level, it can be
very purposeful and and very powerful to have the trauma,
have the wound happen straight away.
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There's nothing we need to protect babies from.
Because another thing is we really need to start seeing
these babies as these wise, powerful, mature beings that
they are, like we all are on thesoul level.
And to stop seeing these babies as these clueless, defenseless
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little clean slates. Because in my experience,
they're not, you know, they all come with baggage.
They all come with past life history.
They all come with wounds, with traumas that they're here to
heal or learn, new traumas to experience, to learn and grow
through. So they're not clean slates.
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They're not these innocent little beings.
They may seem like it because their energy is very pure when
they're born, but they all come with a history just like we all
do. And so that's another thing that
really helped me to see these babies differently, that they
weren't clean slates. They came to to have this
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journey. And so many of the babies that I
work with and like, we don't want a clean slate.
Like seriously, what's the pointof that?
How do we grow from a clean slate?
We don't, and I'm always amazed and surprised by the willingness
of the soul to grow and to learnthrough their human experiences,
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especially the experiences that we as humans really, really
struggle with. So that's been a real eye opener
for me. And so that's the souls that
where prematurity is planned. It's very intentional, it's very
purposeful. As I said, there's often things
set up during pregnancy to almost ensure that that's how it
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happens because that's what theyneed.
That's their life purpose in many ways is to have these
experiences that they can then learn and grow through in their
life. So that's one part of the souls
that I communicated with one cohort, I guess you could say of
these souls. Another cohort was babies that
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were more surprised where they were.
They were a little bit, OK, what's going on here?
Like, how did I end up here? They're a little disorientated,
but again, in my experience, these souls, while they may not
have planned it or decided, yes,this is how I'm going to start
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my life. They always know and I don't
know how they know this, but they always know on some level
that it's a possibility. And I think that's important to
remember because with any birth,with any pregnancy, there's
always the possibility of, of loss.
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During our, our lifetime, we have many different, what I call
exit points. These times in our life where
our soul can make a decision to leave.
And during pregnancy is one of the most powerful and potent
times for a soul to leave. And often, as we've mentioned in
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previous episodes, souls will choose to take those exit
points. And it's like this sliding door
type type experience that's going on.
But what I've learned is that All Souls who are coming to
Earth have some kind of plan. And we've talked about this, but
as with all plans, they don't always go to plan, if that makes
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sense. And so while there can be a
rough outline, a rough guide, what I find is that there's also
room for movement. There's also flexibility.
I don't believe that anyone, either on Earth or in spirit for
that matter, can know exactly what's going to happen.
You know, it can be highly orchestrated, like I've just
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mentioned with some premature babies, but a lot of things,
even spirit doesn't know how it's going to unfold until it
happens. But the way I tend to see it is
there's different timelines. And look, I think there's
hundreds probably of timelines available to us in any given
moment, depending on what path we choose to take or what
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decisions we make or our behaviour, our actions, all of
these things. And so with birth, there's also
that, and I'm going to do a separate episode on the birth
portal because it's a pretty wild one, but it's also very,
very unpredictable. And So what I've learned is that
souls approaching the birth portal, they know on some level
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they can kind of see the way through, but there's all these
other possibilities as well, depending on how literally each
moment unfolds will lead to the next, which eventually will
allow a particular timeline to unfold.
But even Spirit won't doesn't know exactly what that is.
So babies could come to Earth orapproach the birth portal with a
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few different options that even they can see.
It's like it could go this way, it could go that way, this might
happen, that may not happen, maybe it will.
But what tends to happen is, theway I see it anyway, is that one
tends to feel more stronger thanthe other and all the most
likely from where they are before going into labour and all
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of these things. And if you want to learn more
about this, I did do an episode early on.
I will put it in the show notes for you around understanding
timing and timelines where I talk more about this.
So with these premature babies, they often know it's a
possibility. It's like, well, I thought it
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could happen. I knew it was a possibility, but
I wasn't really sure how it would unfold.
And again, coming back to why souls are coming to earth and
what they're here to learn and grow through, there's also
different ways to have those experiences as well.
And as I mentioned previously, with some babies, it's it's
prematurity is a great way to set up that original wound if if
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that's what they're looking for.Whereas others, they could also
have the wound of abandonment orseparation, loneliness, all of
these things that can that they're here to learn.
But it's like 1 opportunity is through birth.
One opportunity or way to set that up is through being born as
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a premature baby. Or it might not be until they're
a teenager or an adult where they have a a relationship
that's really deeply causes or triggers A wound around
abandonment, for example. Sometimes there's a little
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flexibility in how those wounds or those traumas can be
initiated, like what can be the initial situation or trauma that
pierces those that creates that experience for us here on Earth.
So, but even for these babies who find themselves in the
nursery, I knew it was a possibility.
Weren't really sure how the birth portal was going to
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unfold. Not sure where they'd end up.
Even those babies, even though they tend to be more surprised
and confused and disorientated, they're still not resentful.
They're just like, well, now I need to navigate this journey.
And that's what I find is a hugedifference between the soul and
the human. And that's that the soul is very
accepting it. It's just like, OK, we're here
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now. What do we do now?
What's our next step? Whereas generally us humans will
resist it to the NTH degree. So as I said, these souls,
they're not distressed. They are like, OK, this is where
we're going now. This is where we are and we will
do what we can do to navigate through this or journey through
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this and more with a sense of curiosity, almost like an
adventure, which sounds crazy. It's like, how can a unplanned
prematurity feel like an adventure?
But on the soul level it does because it's unpredictable, it's
uncertain, it's unknown, and forthe soul that's a playground,
but for us humans it's can be very painful and very
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challenging. Been feeling a soul around me
for a little while even before Istarted recording this episode.
This is a feminine feeling soul and her name is Lavender which
is strange. I don't often get the names of
souls, but I feel like she has some wisdom to share with us
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around this topic. I feel like she is already here
on the earth as a baby girl and was born as an early Prem.
I'm feeling around the 24 week mark and I feel like she wants
to share some insights and guidance around her journey as a
planned premature baby. Born at 24 weeks as a baby girl.
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I knew what I was coming into. It wasn't a surprise for me.
I wasn't shocked. I wasn't devastated.
I wasn't traumatized. I knew this was how I wanted to
start my life. I knew that it would be
something different for me. I knew that it would be a new
experience for me, and I'm here to learn about the new.
I want to understand the newnessof the Earth.
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I don't want to do the same things that I've already done in
the past. What's the point of that?
How can they serve me? How can they help me grow?
I've been there, done that. I want to have new experiences
and my experience being born at 24 weeks was very challenging
for my human self and also for my parents.
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I saw a side of them that was very difficult even for me to
see. I saw their pain, I saw their
wounds, I saw all the sorest parts of themselves being
triggered almost on a daily basis by myself and my journey,
by the environment that we're in, by the staff.
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It was really hard for me to witness that in them.
But I could also see their souls.
I could see how much they were learning and growing and
expanding. And even though this experience
was literally ripping their hearts wide open, what was so
beautiful for me to see was how wide their hearts were.
And I needed this from them. For them to support me in the
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way that I needed to be supported, in order for them to
parent me in the way that I needed them to be parented, they
needed to have their hearts wideopen.
They were so closed down before.They were so shut down not only
to the outside world, but also to each other.
And during my experience, I was able to see that openness again.
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And that openness, even though Iknow it was challenging for them
and traumatizing for them, and still is, even though I'm three
years old now. What has been so powerful is our
journey together. I feel the intensity of their
love for me so much more deeply than they would have had
capacity for before. And so this has really supported
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me on my journey and it's helpedthem to love me in the way that
I love them. Because they're more open to
love now. Because love took them to parts
of themselves that they didn't know existed, let alone had felt
before. And while they do not see this
in the same way I do, I'm OK with that because it's really
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supporting me on my journey. And I knew my journey was going
to be difficult. I knew that being born so
premature, it was going to be very challenging for my physical
body, for my energy field, and it was also going to affect me
for the rest of my life. But I was ready for that.
I was up for that. And I was actually excited for
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that journey because it's also opened me.
It's allowed me to have a very different experience of the
earth and a very different beginning for my life.
I appreciate life so much more now.
I had to work hard to stay here on the earth.
There were many, many times where I could have left.
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It would have been so easy for me to leave.
Being born at 24 weeks, I had many opportunities to be able to
leave the earth. But every single time I chose to
keep going. I chose to survive.
I chose to say yes and this is going to set me up.
It already has set me up for such a powerful journey ahead
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when now I get to say yes and I know that I can follow through.
I know that I can commit. I know that I can stay the path
because I did it and I continue to do it every single day.
So please know that it wasn't a mistake.
It wasn't something gone wrong. It wasn't something that
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shouldn't have happened for me. It was very purposeful and has
been so powerful on my journey. I have joy around my journey.
I am proud of the journey that Ihave undertaken.
I am proud of of how it has prepared me for the journey
ahead. And the same with my parents.
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They also, every single time they had to say yes, even when
they were being told no. They had to keep the faith, they
had to keep the hope going even when they didn't know how they
could find it again. But they continued.
And so we've had the same lessonin many ways, just from
different perspectives. And this has united us and
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actually connected us in a much more deeper way, a deeper way
than we could ever have had. If I'd born, been born naturally
and healthy at term, there's no way we would have the depth of
connection that we do now. So for this reason alone, let
alone all the other reasons out there, I am grateful.
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I am grateful for my journey. I am grateful for their journey.
And I'm so glad that I was able to come to Earth in this way.
I'm just going to leave this episode here, leave you with the
energy, with this words. Be gentle, allow the energy to
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sink in if it resonates, park itif it doesn't, but be gentle
with yourselves. Thank you for tuning in to
Babies From Beyond. If you've enjoyed this episode,
I'd love for you to leave me a review just wherever you listen
to your podcasts. Also, head over to Instagram and
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give me a follow at Bourne Energy and check out the show
notes for more ways that you canconnect with your baby soul,
including one-on-one readings and online programs to support
you. Until next time, trust your
journey and your baby. Take care.
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