November 18, 2025 • 43 mins
Former Idaho state legislator Chad Christensen opens up about his real-life Bigfoot encounter deep in the Palisades Reservoir and Jackknife Creek area of Idaho.
In this exclusive interview, Chad recounts his chilling night in the wilderness — a 2 a.m. rock throw, glowing red eyes on a ridge, terrified horses, and a scream unlike anything human. He also discusses his background in law enforcement, his time in the Idaho legislature, and why he’s decided to go public after two decades of silence.
Host Jeremiah Byron guides listeners through one of the most credible firsthand Bigfoot accounts ever recorded in Idaho.
If you’re into Bigfoot sightings, Sasquatch encounters, or government witness stories, this episode is for you.
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In this exclusive interview, Chad recounts his chilling night in the wilderness — a 2 a.m. rock throw, glowing red eyes on a ridge, terrified horses, and a scream unlike anything human. He also discusses his background in law enforcement, his time in the Idaho legislature, and why he’s decided to go public after two decades of silence.
Host Jeremiah Byron guides listeners through one of the most credible firsthand Bigfoot accounts ever recorded in Idaho.
If you’re into Bigfoot sightings, Sasquatch encounters, or government witness stories, this episode is for you.
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Chad's FB page - https://www.facebook.com/chadchristensenforidaho/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big the Society. You've
got the privilege of talking to mister Chad Christiansen today.
Chad has law enforcement and military experience and was also
a state legislator for four years. So welcome to the show, Chad.
(00:44):
It's great to have you on today.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, Jeremiah, I give it me Honarly too. I was
an Army MP the clerk for a while for a while,
and it was also a deeven operation officer and then
went to the state Probation and pro and dealt with prolleues,
come out of prison and also ran in the futuitive
warrant team.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So when any.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Any of those proli user probationers in the office absconded
and got a warrant after you for them, I would,
you know, run a team to chase them down and
we'd arrest them and put them in jail. And so
that part of the job was pretty exhilarating. And and
I from there, I went to state welfare fraud investigations
and dealt with a lot of you know, a lot
(01:30):
of people that have scammed the welfare system. And then yeah,
I was elected to the state legislature in twenty eighteen.
I'd beat a thirty year incumbent and the State Affairs
Committee chairman. So it's pretty kind of a big deal. It
was kind of state wide news. Hey this new guy
that nobody knows about kind of beats this thirty year incumbent.
(01:53):
So it was pretty exciting. And I spent four years
in office. I'm running again in twenty six. I was
in the House for four years then, so I'm again
in twenty six. You know, you know, being the legislature
was a good experience. You know, I feel like I
stood for the people and not the establishment, and for
(02:14):
what was you know, for the for freedom and the Constitution.
So that was important to me.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Chad, we had gotten connected about that. You have an
experience that you were wanting to share that happened out
out in Idaho to you correct.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, I kind of had sit for years, and I've
told more and more people after after the fact and
friends and you know, my dad. Yeah, so you know,
I get into it now if you want me too.
And it was back in two thousand and three, and
you know, it was the area I hunted quite a bit.
You know, friend showed me this area for deer and
(02:51):
elk and mostly elk. You know, I go back in
there and elk usually and and my first it's called
jet Nat Creek area and you go past Palasage Reservoir,
which later I've come to know the area is quite
you know, there's a custy stories about big foot in
that area. And then that I've come to do research,
(03:12):
and I didn't I had no idea there was that
many stories and accounts that go back in the area
around Palisades. So yeah, you'd pass Palasage Reservoir and go
into Wyoming and then take it and go and go
back west and go back in Idaho, and I would
hunt there quite a bit. You know, I've been in
there in this certain canyon it's called School Canyon, and
(03:35):
I'd go in there, and you always feel just a
weird presence. Hard to explain. I just didn't feel right.
I was a little bit off. But I'd always just
go back and hunt. It was a good area and
I always get my elk and and be successful. And
then I got my first chuck in there, probably in
(03:58):
the nineties, and then went back in there and I
took my dad and brother one year it too deer hunt.
I remember one night we were and we were in
camp and I and I had woken up and I heard,
you know, I didn't think of anything at the time,
but I heard a bipedal heavy walk at our camp
(04:21):
and I know, I spoke like a skunk type smell,
and I just okay, this is weird. And I didn't
think much of it then. And the next day a
warden came into our camp and in front of me
about driving my jeep on it on that trail I
shouldn't have been on. Oh, I didn't know it was.
(04:42):
He says, what's parked? I said, Okay, I didn't see that,
so I attributed that.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I told my dad, hey, maybe that ward.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Came into our camp last night. I heard somebody walking
through it. I don't go to him now, obviously I
think it was something else. So if you later, I
was hunting elk in that same canyon and my dad
was there. He didn't come up with he stayed down
in it in the camper, and I went up and
(05:10):
hunted in that canyon and I came across to six
six by six elk leaving the herd of elk down
the canyon. So I shot him and we got down
to my dad. Hey, I got I got a bull,
and he's going, oh awesome. So I still addressed it,
(05:34):
and then I was it was getting late in the day,
and I said, well, I'm gonna be just gonna still
dressed and.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Call my friend help me come get it out.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Because he had horses. He told me, good help if
I got something down, and so I, you know, still dressed.
It went back down and I called I got I
went out to get some syrus on my cellphone and
called him, Hey, I got this out down. You're still
on you still help me? He said yeah. So I
(06:02):
drove back into town. And we got his and his horses.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And had it back up.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So we got there back up to that carryon about.
It was around midnight, so it was late, and so
we had two horses. His horse he was riding on
it was a normal saddle, and then we had the
other horse, which I rode on most of the way.
It was it was a pack saddle, so it was
(06:34):
very uncomfortable to ride on what I did. So we
went kind of a different He knew the area well,
and we didn't go ship up the canyon like I
did the hunt. We went kind of up a different
ridge and knowle to get down to the spot where
we dropped down down in the canyon. And so as
(06:55):
we got that Noel, we were looking down in the
canyon that my elk was in and the horses were
started going crazy and my horse butt me off and
I got up back up. A guy slipped across the canyon.
There was a set of eyes and they appeared to
(07:15):
be red, and my friends like you see that. I'm like, yeah,
He's like, what the heck is that? And well, I
don't know, I never know an I want to have
red eyes. And we were just nervous and and and
then then it went away, and IKE were like, okay, well,
let's just go get dealt now, and and he told
(07:38):
the horses were still really nervous and agitated, and we
went down and down the pass where that those eyes were.
So we went up to get my We went up
the canyon and the horses and I just spilled like again,
like it was someone was off, and I thought I
(08:00):
was being washed and just what we're feeling, you know,
feeling of didn't feel good. It just felt weird. I
got to my elk and I was surprised I hadn't
been touched because of that whatever that was. I thought
it probably got to my elk, and it was had
been touched. Like okay, well that's good. So they got
(08:23):
the elk and fours accorded it up and put on
the pack horse, and I took I took the antlers
off to take them. So he went out with the
horses and he's like, well follow.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Me up that no again, and on the way out
where you know, whether we.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Saw that or horses went nuts, And I said, okay,
well you know, but he was always he was faster
than me. So I was by myself in the dark
and well at the lantern and a flash I can't wish.
I think it was a flashlight. So I have the
(09:10):
antlers in my other gear and I was at his
side arm and at you know, forty five, and I
went walking down the canyon and I got to this
point where I was He told me to turn up
the know again and ridge.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And follow that area. And I don't know that, very
very little I.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Want to do in the dark, but so I decided
to go down the canyon.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And that area where.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I was talking about why I was supposed to turn
up right below me had a big set of logs,
a downfall, huge trees that I had to go over
and get down the canyon. As soon as I started
into those logs, a big rock flew by my head
and it was I mean, it was a big of rocky.
(10:01):
It was probably fifty pounds. And I could tell I've
been throwing pretty a good distance. I mean, I couldn't
see the whole lot of the dark, but I knew
it wasn't a short distance. It wasn't like ten feet
it had it been like fifty seventy five feet away
or you know, out of my estimation and my eyes
(10:25):
froze and what in the world. And I saw about
seventy five feet away. You know, I couldn't see, I
couldn't make it out real well. But I saw a
figure and I saw and I saw his eyes look
at me again and then turn away, and and.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Then I just.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So I started moving forward. It came real slow, and
looking up there, I was super nervous, and I heard it.
Then I heard a scream that I can never explain.
The pitch I was. It's that was just a nerving
It was high pitched. And if I could low growl
(11:11):
into a high pitch, I guess a way to put it.
And at that point, I just was busting through the
the downfall as fast as I could, and I ran
and ran all the way down that canyon to get
out of there. And I got to the bottom, and
(11:32):
my friend was waging down down there at the moment
at the bottom that came with horses, and he was
all Me and my friend were always drop with each
other and always playing games on each other, and he
was waiting there and you know, for me to come
around a corner, and he scared me. So I was
already scared, obviously, and I'm going for my gun because
(11:55):
I didn't know what. But I obviously calmed down and
I was okay, it's him. H So that was, you know,
a pretty quick story, I guess, but that was the
gist of that experience. And I've always we had another
friend that the hut are quite a bit and he'd
(12:15):
always told us, Hey, I hear the scream up the
scream up there all the time. I can't tell what
it is. It's not it's not any animal I know.
And this guy is a quite quite a mountain man,
and for him for him to say something like that
to me, I was shocked because this guy knows his animals,
and he's in the mountains all his life and he's
(12:37):
pretty much a true Idaho mountain man. And it tells
me that he didn't know what that that noise was
that screamed up in there. It just made me even
verify even more of it. Okay, this is there's something
through this to this. I haven't been that back in
that kind of since, So, I mean I might go
(13:00):
eventually one day again.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Wow, Yet.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's some That is a pretty frightening encounter. So just
a few questions for you. So it was it was
midnight when you went back and got the elk.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Correct right, And I would say, well, I got down
to that spot where it took a rock at me.
I would say it's probably two three in the morning, okay, gotcha,
probably two probably two.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yea, so two thirty ish, and that's around the same time.
Then you're seeing a figure that's about seventy five yards away.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right, yeah, I would say it no yards, I would
say it was probably in the yard is probably fifty.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, it's about fifty yards, which is about the length
of like two tennis courts. That's an ex what that is.
So around two thirty in the morning. And then how
much of were you just able to see the figure
that the sorry, were you just able to see that
the silhouette of the figure or how much of it
(14:13):
were you able to see?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, I didn't see much detail when I saw the
silhouette a couple of times, but sometimes it kind of
faded into a dark background. But yeah, the silhouette, you know,
I you know, I knew it was huge with that silhouette,
and I definitely looked by a people to me, the
way it moved and across that it was it was
(14:37):
on the side of it a ridge. It wasn't on
a flat It wasn't on flat grounds on the side.
You know, all the time that we saw the eye
that was on the side of the ridge when I
was walking down the canyon was on the side of
the ridge, and it moved on the side on that
steep ridge with ease when it followed me for a
(14:58):
little bit. I don't know how far to followed me,
but well I saw it. It was on you know,
it was walking next to me. It was on that ridge.
And it seemed to be a very large bipedal. Yeah,
and have mass to it. It was skinny, you know,
it was a mass.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And so when you say it had mass, were you
able to to estimate, like, you know, was it very
muscular or lean or was it did it look like
it was a certain length acrossed at the chest or
anything anything like that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, it seemed broad and and muscular, right, It definitely
didn't seem like it was skinny, and very very wide
from the shoulder to the shoulder, and very wide when
it turned sideways. I can see it was wide that
way as well. Take that way.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Were you able to get an estimate of how tall.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It seemed to be not real.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Will, but I would.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Just kind of ballpark figuring it and maybe from the
rocks and boars and trees around it, you know, I would,
I would. I would have said, just guessing eight feet gotcha.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
At any time when you saw it fifty yards away
from you and it it was moving, it was walking,
did you ever see anything glowing at all or anything
that made any any light.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, I don't think anything was glowing. I think it
was a reflection. I think when I saw its eyes,
it was a reflection from the moon, is what I
think it was. Yeah, the first time I saw the
eyes across the canyon with my friend, I think the
redness coming it was a reflection I believe from the
light was there. So I don't I don't think it
(17:08):
was glowing. I think it was reflected from you know,
the light from the moon.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Sure were you able to see any of that reflection
when you were looking at it when it was starting
to move walk away after the rock was thrown at you, Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, it would. It would look forward, it would
turn look at me and and I see the eyes
were looking at me, and they would they would they
would have a turn again and go to walk forward
and to look back again, maybe probably three times. I
probably saw it transcend toward to me and saw reflection
when it was on the side of the ridge. I
(17:44):
see that. I see that reflection of the eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What what color did it seem to have for reflection?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Red?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, so it was red at that time as well.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
When it.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Made the move in order to turn its head to
look at you, could you tell if it was more
of a having to turn its whole body or was
it able to just turn its head and look over.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, I think it turned. I think it was kind
of both. I think it was its shoulder turned too,
and its head would turn a little bit with it.
I believe that's how I kind of so more of
a more of his body I think turned first, you know,
a shoulder turned back and turned towards me. And you know,
(18:37):
I believe they had turned some too, sure most of
the body. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Was there anything that you noticed that would have made
you think that you're dealing with a male or a
female bigfoot?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No? I could make that out at all.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
No, gotcha? How did this affect you? After you had
this encounter? And then you know, you go back home
and you try to go about your life. Did it
affect you in any ways right off the bat, Oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Mean I just I went nuts on researching and before
I know, I always kind of you know, I never
I never dismissed sasquatropic for the being real. I didn't.
I wasn't one of those people that are like, oh,
that can't be true, and it's there's no way. I
always have an open mind about it, but I didn't
know it existed, and I didn't really put my thought
(19:30):
into it. So when I after it happened to me, yeah,
I became not on researching it and looking at other
people's stories and just finding out there every tribe in
the world has a name for it. And the encounters
people's witness account encounters are just so consistent with some
(19:53):
of the things that I came across. The you know,
the smell, I thought I miss all the thing out
of the canyon, but in my camp I realized, Okay,
maybe that was big fit. I came into a camp
and the smell is consistent, and the rock throwing and
the eyes seemed consistent for a lot of people, and
so many behaviors. You know, people don't make up those
(20:14):
things and it's so consistent, and being law enforcement and
witnesses are important, and when the stories are consistent, that's important.
You know, people aren't you know, of course there's going
to be some people that are fraudule in their stories,
and that when those people when a lot of people,
most of them are very consistent in their stories. Okay,
somethings to this, something's going on, sure, So yeah, since
(20:41):
you know, twenty years I just became a nun researching
it and so changed me for sure. I became assesssed
at times and look in researching it. And you know,
doctor Milderham. It's close to where I live, so I
would email him and call him and pick his brain
a little bit, and I began to respect him. You know,
(21:02):
he's and his science. You know, you know things that
he's come across, and you particulately things real well, how okay, yeah,
you're right mid tussle break, that's it. Absolutely. You know.
His his explanations were, am I, okay, you know you're
right or something to this, and and I believed them.
(21:24):
I didn't tell many people the story for a long time,
and then I told my friend that night. He knew
I was someone's wrong with me, and you know, he
kept asking on the way home, what's wrong, and I'm good.
I finally told him and he that's when he told me, Okay,
our friend, but what I mentioned to you that I
(21:47):
heard those noise, heard those screams up in the in
the area. He told me, yeah, our land from from work,
you know heard I heard these screams up there for years.
And he can't he can't put there, you know, a
creature to those streams. So I think he believed me
because of that when he said that, And then I
finally told a friend of mine and we were pretty
(22:09):
close during that time. He's a deputy sheriff. I won't
use his name, and it finally told him and he
and when I did it, he's like, oh, and I
could tell something was honest. His demeanor changed and he
knew something was he knew something.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I said.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I pushed him, what what are you what? Something's you're
thinking about something? And you want to tell me, I think,
So I kept bugging him, tell me what you're thinking,
and he finally told me. He came across the Sasquatch
what he believed to be a sasquatch over and led
or Idaho m He told me, you know, me and
me and my friend he was and I an a
(22:50):
false police officer and him were I mean folders down
what they called eight mile of trail up and let
or and then coming down this canyon. It was towards
you know, he was getting trying to get dark. There
still light enough to see well, but the sun was
starting to go down. And he came out the corner
(23:12):
and he said his friend was ahead of him. So
his friend had passed whatever the scene was, and he came.
He came on his corner and he said this scene
was off the trail. So the trail to the right dropped,
and he said this scene was standing on the off
the side of the trail and his back was to
him and it put his arm out to kind of
(23:34):
protect itself from the four wheather as he passed, and
he said that he was as tall as him on
his foot with her and was standing down below the trail.
So he thought, okay, the scene is like ten feet tall,
and he went past. He went down to the trail
head and made it with his friend, and he told
(23:57):
his friends for him this laughed at him, and see
you're full of it, and and that's why he was
so hesitant to tell me. I don't think he told
hardly anybody besides me and maybe his parents the story.
But fact that was pretty cool that, you know, Okay,
you know what else is out there that I don't
know about that people, you know, friends and family have experienced.
(24:19):
And since you know, I, since I told him my story,
he eventually told me his. And I think a lot
of people's reports are people's encounters don't get reported, you know.
I know that the BFRO has you know, a map
of how many reportings are across the nation, and I'm like, okay,
it's probably only like ten percent of the real reports,
(24:41):
if it's that much. You know, looking back to when
I was a kid, and it's not far from the
area where I had my encounter. You know, we we
would go, you know, on time reunions to it's called
the Kelly Canon area, which is, like I said, not
too far from policys we had my encounter. And I
remember because my cousins and we'd pick cuckleberries and there
(25:07):
and there's you know, you know, in a canopy of trees.
I remember one time I looked back way back at
then a canopy of trees and I saw the same
thing red eyes, and I would hit my cousin, hey,
what's that back there? And I one time I heard it.
I saw it swaying back and forth, and so did
(25:27):
she and we were like this and we point out
to her cousins, hey, look back there, what is that?
And you know, some of the cousins didn't care, so
we did, me and my female cousins of mine. So
after after my experience in the mounds and then looking
back to that, I'm like, okay, that is possibly a sasquatch.
And I after my research, and you know, I came
(25:50):
to realize, Okay, a lot of them are pretty curious
about kids and there kids being playful, and they'd come
down and watch kids being just sili and playful, and
I was in our to them, I believe. So it
made sense to me, okay, that that's why that was there.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Watching those chat a few a few questions for you.
You know, you're coming forward with your you know, your
full name and exactly who you are, and that you
were a state legislator. And not only that, it's not
that you're retired, it's that you're also trying to get
back into this position as well. Why come forward now
(26:26):
with what you experience regarding Bigfoot in these areas.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know, I'd have been afraid of truth, I guess
I've I've always been one the truth important to me,
and I don't want to and I know people, you know,
some people might get a little of this and they
chance a no job and you know they probab already
to do the ones that don't like me. But you know,
it's just my personality. I guess I don't. I'm not
really afraid of things like that. I'm just the kind
(26:54):
of cursions just always you know, speaks the truth. You know,
when I was not this, I was pretty hated by
this you know what we call the establishment, for speaking
the truth about what happened in the legislature. You know,
I would I would out him for hate. There's this
corruption there and there, and I would point it out.
(27:15):
So I was I was a big target for that
reason for speaking truth and and not and letting people
know the truth and what was going on. So I've
always I've always been one never been afraid to shy
away from the truth. And you know, I can't say
definitive definitively that what I saw was a bigfoot. But
(27:36):
all signs point to that direction. Of course, obviously, if
I I'm calling you and explaining the story to you
and and my friend that I had experience and let order,
I mean that was Crows the bill to him, and
he was so hesitant to tell me that. He was like,
(27:56):
he was trying to offer it to me. This is
what happened to me, and please believe me. You know,
he was so hesitant to tell me, and I'm like, Okay,
this is this is true.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
He's not lying to me.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
You know. It's just I've always been wondered to seek
truth and I don't care what people think. It's just
too I am.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I guess during your time as a legislator so far,
did the topic of bigfoot ever come up in conversation
or did people know that, hey, Chad's the bigfoot guy,
you know, anything like that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, I never I never prought it up to anybody,
am I the little legislators or in that realm of politics,
And I mean I wouldn't try away from it. I
guess I never came up a topic. And you know
the times I made there, you know, you know you
know there's one I trust and I would tell that
story too, and I just never came up. So I
(28:50):
guess I didn't think about killing anybody. That.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Have you heard of any other government officials that have
also had big foot encounters? Anything that you've heard through
your channels over the years.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh yeah, I mean I've done a lot of research
and her stories from you know, police officers, and I
mean not not in our area, but yeah, I've heard
lots of individuals that were Dublin officials that were you know,
forest rangers and police officers and you know Dutch princes
and their how they were told to be quiet. You know,
if you don't be quiet, you lose your job. Well,
you know I did show went up in North Idaho
(29:31):
a story that came across the different research and it
was a state employee that was out so doing some
kind of surveying I think, out in forests for a
long for like a month at a time, and they
came across a family and then you know this, this
this guy was streating with his job. He if you
don't be quiet, you know, you don't lose your job.
(29:53):
So I know, I know that would happen to an
Idol State employee. I don't. I think it was up
Orth or maybe Central Idaho. You know, I came across
some stories of guides over in that same area around
Palisades Sasha's chronicles. I came across the story of it
a guide over in the area where I was, and
(30:14):
he had like three encounters. Michael it cal He's a
lot more prevalent than I thought in the area.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
What do you think it would take for the topic
of bigfoot to be widely accepted or disclosed?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, I don't. I believe that there's been after
you know, after by twenty years of research, I do
believe there's been bodies fund and and you know, a
good amount of evidence that's been found. I think the
government just covers it up. So I don't know if
anything that we've, any evidence that we find, can be
really put on the mainstream science and media. I don't
(30:56):
think it's I think the government cuts up so much
and threatens people that it's not a possibility to be
to get to that point. In my opinion.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I've heard stories like that as well, some of them
that can never really be put out there into the public.
But there there are some some definite stories out there
of the government showing up in different areas, like maybe
even the Navajo reservation and showing up with black SUVs
and and you know, taking whatever it was off in
(31:30):
their vehicle.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh, and I didn't. He was telling the story about
as well as the story of my friends over and led.
Or he went back to that area. I could. I
could a few days later because he was curious. I
would have been scared to go back, I guess. But
he he got curious and went back to that trail
and he started up the trail a little ways. Also
(31:54):
enything was taped off, and he you know, the trail
was was closed, and he came across the ranger that
was really close started questioning the rangers, and the ranger
started saying, hey, you know, my closing trail because of
a cougar has been having problems, and he's like, he
kept questioning him, and he didn't believe him, so he
(32:14):
kept questioning the ranger. The ranger got a little stinty
with him, and so, yeah, that did happen with him.
My friend to mention that, So I think they're that
ranger knew something was going on there with what he
saw so did he. So that's that's why he was
so he questioned that ranger so much.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's a tricky subject because, and I've never heard this
from just from what I've heard, I think a lot
of those guys, you know, if they do start talking
on record, I mean, they're going to lose their job. Actually,
I can say I've talked to one guy out in
the Pacific Northwest and yeah, he won't come on there,
(32:56):
but he's sad stuff happened out there. And let's just
say the the PNW, uh this is pretty wild. Well,
it's it's getting close, man. So I would feel that
over the last let's say, maybe ten years or less,
we've really started to experience a disclosure in the UFO
(33:17):
or UAP phenomenon field. And it's slow, it's really really slow.
Do you think that will ever happen on the big
Foot side of things or are we probably a while
away from that.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, it's a good question, you know, I know, you know,
in my research, I came across the Army manual and
in that same area that you just mentioned, the city
northwest of Roshington. Well, they in that manual they were
talking about you know, you know, if you come across
the Sasquatch, this is what you do. So and that
(33:58):
was a real army manual for for training. But so
I think it's kind of been in and out. I
think if we're gonna print something like that in an
army manual, I think that there was it can be
kind of gradually canal into that in that realm of
being more open and honest about discussion, you know, and
(34:22):
what was to me, you know, doctor Meldrim was very
open about it, and I appreciated about him. He was
just you know, we were kind of like that, you know,
you know, I liked that way that we were just
we cared about truth and that's what he cared about.
And to see all these professors treat them like crab
really really bugged me. You know. That was you know,
(34:43):
they made fun of him, and his colleagues wouldn't talk
to him and made fun of him. And that's so
I guess my point with Dad is just getting past
that childishness and and having an open mind and and
stop stuffing science a way like they did. You know,
you know, Molder had good science behind what he what
(35:05):
he knew to be true, and stop dismissing that. I
guess it's going to be the key to the key
to that theme.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You know, Oh absolutely. I mean doctor Meldrum was a
fantastic individual. I there's going to be there's quite a
void to fill, and hopefully, for sure we all realize that,
you know, we need to step up in that regard,
and I believe some people already are. Would you be
able to talk to individuals that might be listening to
(35:35):
this particular episode that are let's say, in higher maybe
government positions or et cetera, that might have knowledge about
you know, Bigfoot that they're not coming forward with and
why is it?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I just had some really fun interference on my side.
Uh wow, oh boy. Okay, So could you take a
minute to maybe discuss about why it would be important
for those individuals as well to come forward with what
they know about this subject?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, I think it's important for you know one. You know,
the reason I mentioned before is just you know, the truth.
I think the truth is important. I think people deserve
to know what's out there. I think there's beings out
there that you know, I think some are very docile
and friendly and some are some are aggressive. You know,
(36:42):
I think they're a lot like like humans.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I think there are.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Different personalities involved. I think it's important for people to
be aware of if possible dangers in the wild. And
I think you know, these these these government workers or officials,
you know, they what to their to the public. I
believe in my opinion that you know, to tell the truth.
(37:09):
You know there there are people to go missing in
the mountains every year, and I think I think some
some can attribute to to these creatures. I think they
have it have to kidnap people and taking people, and
I think that's and I think, like I said, I
don't think all about that. I think a very small
portion of these beings are aggressive. What there are some
(37:32):
that are, and I think people deserve to be aware
of what's around them and and the possibilities of you know,
being out there in the forest and then their surroundings.
I think, you know, these government officials are what to
the public. To speak up and tell what's going on.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I agree one hundred percent. And to put a little
plug out there, I guess for the own my own show.
If you are listening and you do have something to share,
and even if it is off record, and anonymous and
it can't go on the show. I'd still love to
talk to you. I think that information is still important
(38:13):
and if you do want to come on on the
show and share whatever you know, please reach out to
me at Big Fuz societygmail dot com. But Chad Man,
this has been such such an interesting conversation in an
area where you know, I've had a few people on
from the Palisades area and there's some weird stuff going
(38:36):
on in that region as as you've experienced yourself, and
if other people I've experienced stuff around there, please reach
out too. But you know, Chad, I want to make
sure that you were able to share everything that you
came to the show today to share about.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, you know, I had those three different experiences I
wanted to share. You know. I know my experience as
a kid was brief, but asually I had experience in
the mountains. I look back to my you know that
came to my head and yeah, I remember as a child.
But yeah, I did share all the experiences that I
came to share.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Absolutely, Well, thank you so much for spending some time
on the show today. It was a privilege to have
you on, and I wish you. Best of luck to
in the future as you try to get a I
guess another be another four years in the state legislator
of Idaho.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Those two year terms two years, yeah, get yeah, hope. Yeah,
I'm going for the Senate at this time and before
I was in the House, so I'm going to get
for the Senate this next in twenty six so yeah,
I'll get a two year term if I get in again.
And yep. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Fantastic And just asking is there anything that you would
want people to follow, you know, regarding yourself or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Sure, I mean, I guess my Facebook campaign pages check
which is for freedom loving Idahoans. He's my Facebook page,
and yeah, follow that and for more campaign information and
that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Awesome, good stuff. Well, chat Thank you again for coming
on the show. It has been a pleasure chatting with you,
and we'll have to stay in touch maybe for the future.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
You have a good one, sir, you too, Thanks Jeremiah.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
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And see you in the woods.
You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big the Society. You've
got the privilege of talking to mister Chad Christiansen today.
Chad has law enforcement and military experience and was also
a state legislator for four years. So welcome to the show, Chad.
(00:44):
It's great to have you on today.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, Jeremiah, I give it me Honarly too. I was
an Army MP the clerk for a while for a while,
and it was also a deeven operation officer and then
went to the state Probation and pro and dealt with prolleues,
come out of prison and also ran in the futuitive
warrant team.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So when any.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Any of those proli user probationers in the office absconded
and got a warrant after you for them, I would,
you know, run a team to chase them down and
we'd arrest them and put them in jail. And so
that part of the job was pretty exhilarating. And and
I from there, I went to state welfare fraud investigations
and dealt with a lot of you know, a lot
(01:30):
of people that have scammed the welfare system. And then yeah,
I was elected to the state legislature in twenty eighteen.
I'd beat a thirty year incumbent and the State Affairs
Committee chairman. So it's pretty kind of a big deal. It
was kind of state wide news. Hey this new guy
that nobody knows about kind of beats this thirty year incumbent.
(01:53):
So it was pretty exciting. And I spent four years
in office. I'm running again in twenty six. I was
in the House for four years then, so I'm again
in twenty six. You know, you know, being the legislature
was a good experience. You know, I feel like I
stood for the people and not the establishment, and for
(02:14):
what was you know, for the for freedom and the Constitution.
So that was important to me.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Chad, we had gotten connected about that. You have an
experience that you were wanting to share that happened out
out in Idaho to you correct.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, I kind of had sit for years, and I've
told more and more people after after the fact and
friends and you know, my dad. Yeah, so you know,
I get into it now if you want me too.
And it was back in two thousand and three, and
you know, it was the area I hunted quite a bit.
You know, friend showed me this area for deer and
(02:51):
elk and mostly elk. You know, I go back in
there and elk usually and and my first it's called
jet Nat Creek area and you go past Palasage Reservoir,
which later I've come to know the area is quite
you know, there's a custy stories about big foot in
that area. And then that I've come to do research,
(03:12):
and I didn't I had no idea there was that
many stories and accounts that go back in the area
around Palisades. So yeah, you'd pass Palasage Reservoir and go
into Wyoming and then take it and go and go
back west and go back in Idaho, and I would
hunt there quite a bit. You know, I've been in
there in this certain canyon it's called School Canyon, and
(03:35):
I'd go in there, and you always feel just a
weird presence. Hard to explain. I just didn't feel right.
I was a little bit off. But I'd always just
go back and hunt. It was a good area and
I always get my elk and and be successful. And
then I got my first chuck in there, probably in
(03:58):
the nineties, and then went back in there and I
took my dad and brother one year it too deer hunt.
I remember one night we were and we were in
camp and I and I had woken up and I heard,
you know, I didn't think of anything at the time,
but I heard a bipedal heavy walk at our camp
(04:21):
and I know, I spoke like a skunk type smell,
and I just okay, this is weird. And I didn't
think much of it then. And the next day a
warden came into our camp and in front of me
about driving my jeep on it on that trail I
shouldn't have been on. Oh, I didn't know it was.
(04:42):
He says, what's parked? I said, Okay, I didn't see that,
so I attributed that.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I told my dad, hey, maybe that ward.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Came into our camp last night. I heard somebody walking
through it. I don't go to him now, obviously I
think it was something else. So if you later, I
was hunting elk in that same canyon and my dad
was there. He didn't come up with he stayed down
in it in the camper, and I went up and
(05:10):
hunted in that canyon and I came across to six
six by six elk leaving the herd of elk down
the canyon. So I shot him and we got down
to my dad. Hey, I got I got a bull,
and he's going, oh awesome. So I still addressed it,
(05:34):
and then I was it was getting late in the day,
and I said, well, I'm gonna be just gonna still
dressed and.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Call my friend help me come get it out.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Because he had horses. He told me, good help if
I got something down, and so I, you know, still dressed.
It went back down and I called I got I
went out to get some syrus on my cellphone and
called him, Hey, I got this out down. You're still
on you still help me? He said yeah. So I
(06:02):
drove back into town. And we got his and his horses.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And had it back up.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So we got there back up to that carryon about.
It was around midnight, so it was late, and so
we had two horses. His horse he was riding on
it was a normal saddle, and then we had the
other horse, which I rode on most of the way.
It was it was a pack saddle, so it was
(06:34):
very uncomfortable to ride on what I did. So we
went kind of a different He knew the area well,
and we didn't go ship up the canyon like I
did the hunt. We went kind of up a different
ridge and knowle to get down to the spot where
we dropped down down in the canyon. And so as
(06:55):
we got that Noel, we were looking down in the
canyon that my elk was in and the horses were
started going crazy and my horse butt me off and
I got up back up. A guy slipped across the canyon.
There was a set of eyes and they appeared to
(07:15):
be red, and my friends like you see that. I'm like, yeah,
He's like, what the heck is that? And well, I
don't know, I never know an I want to have
red eyes. And we were just nervous and and and
then then it went away, and IKE were like, okay, well,
let's just go get dealt now, and and he told
(07:38):
the horses were still really nervous and agitated, and we
went down and down the pass where that those eyes were.
So we went up to get my We went up
the canyon and the horses and I just spilled like again,
like it was someone was off, and I thought I
(08:00):
was being washed and just what we're feeling, you know,
feeling of didn't feel good. It just felt weird. I
got to my elk and I was surprised I hadn't
been touched because of that whatever that was. I thought
it probably got to my elk, and it was had
been touched. Like okay, well that's good. So they got
(08:23):
the elk and fours accorded it up and put on
the pack horse, and I took I took the antlers
off to take them. So he went out with the
horses and he's like, well follow.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Me up that no again, and on the way out
where you know, whether we.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Saw that or horses went nuts, And I said, okay,
well you know, but he was always he was faster
than me. So I was by myself in the dark
and well at the lantern and a flash I can't wish.
I think it was a flashlight. So I have the
(09:10):
antlers in my other gear and I was at his
side arm and at you know, forty five, and I
went walking down the canyon and I got to this
point where I was He told me to turn up
the know again and ridge.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And follow that area. And I don't know that, very
very little I.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Want to do in the dark, but so I decided
to go down the canyon.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And that area where.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I was talking about why I was supposed to turn
up right below me had a big set of logs,
a downfall, huge trees that I had to go over
and get down the canyon. As soon as I started
into those logs, a big rock flew by my head
and it was I mean, it was a big of rocky.
(10:01):
It was probably fifty pounds. And I could tell I've
been throwing pretty a good distance. I mean, I couldn't
see the whole lot of the dark, but I knew
it wasn't a short distance. It wasn't like ten feet
it had it been like fifty seventy five feet away
or you know, out of my estimation and my eyes
(10:25):
froze and what in the world. And I saw about
seventy five feet away. You know, I couldn't see, I
couldn't make it out real well. But I saw a
figure and I saw and I saw his eyes look
at me again and then turn away, and and.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Then I just.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So I started moving forward. It came real slow, and
looking up there, I was super nervous, and I heard it.
Then I heard a scream that I can never explain.
The pitch I was. It's that was just a nerving
It was high pitched. And if I could low growl
(11:11):
into a high pitch, I guess a way to put it.
And at that point, I just was busting through the
the downfall as fast as I could, and I ran
and ran all the way down that canyon to get
out of there. And I got to the bottom, and
(11:32):
my friend was waging down down there at the moment
at the bottom that came with horses, and he was
all Me and my friend were always drop with each
other and always playing games on each other, and he
was waiting there and you know, for me to come
around a corner, and he scared me. So I was
already scared, obviously, and I'm going for my gun because
(11:55):
I didn't know what. But I obviously calmed down and
I was okay, it's him. H So that was, you know,
a pretty quick story, I guess, but that was the
gist of that experience. And I've always we had another
friend that the hut are quite a bit and he'd
(12:15):
always told us, Hey, I hear the scream up the
scream up there all the time. I can't tell what
it is. It's not it's not any animal I know.
And this guy is a quite quite a mountain man,
and for him for him to say something like that
to me, I was shocked because this guy knows his animals,
and he's in the mountains all his life and he's
(12:37):
pretty much a true Idaho mountain man. And it tells
me that he didn't know what that that noise was
that screamed up in there. It just made me even
verify even more of it. Okay, this is there's something
through this to this. I haven't been that back in
that kind of since, So, I mean I might go
(13:00):
eventually one day again.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Wow, Yet.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's some That is a pretty frightening encounter. So just
a few questions for you. So it was it was
midnight when you went back and got the elk.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Correct right, And I would say, well, I got down
to that spot where it took a rock at me.
I would say it's probably two three in the morning, okay, gotcha,
probably two probably two.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yea, so two thirty ish, and that's around the same time.
Then you're seeing a figure that's about seventy five yards away.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right, yeah, I would say it no yards, I would
say it was probably in the yard is probably fifty.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Okay, it's about fifty yards, which is about the length
of like two tennis courts. That's an ex what that is.
So around two thirty in the morning. And then how
much of were you just able to see the figure
that the sorry, were you just able to see that
the silhouette of the figure or how much of it
(14:13):
were you able to see?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, I didn't see much detail when I saw the
silhouette a couple of times, but sometimes it kind of
faded into a dark background. But yeah, the silhouette, you know,
I you know, I knew it was huge with that silhouette,
and I definitely looked by a people to me, the
way it moved and across that it was it was
(14:37):
on the side of it a ridge. It wasn't on
a flat It wasn't on flat grounds on the side.
You know, all the time that we saw the eye
that was on the side of the ridge when I
was walking down the canyon was on the side of
the ridge, and it moved on the side on that
steep ridge with ease when it followed me for a
(14:58):
little bit. I don't know how far to followed me,
but well I saw it. It was on you know,
it was walking next to me. It was on that ridge.
And it seemed to be a very large bipedal. Yeah,
and have mass to it. It was skinny, you know,
it was a mass.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
And so when you say it had mass, were you
able to to estimate, like, you know, was it very
muscular or lean or was it did it look like
it was a certain length acrossed at the chest or
anything anything like that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, it seemed broad and and muscular, right, It definitely
didn't seem like it was skinny, and very very wide
from the shoulder to the shoulder, and very wide when
it turned sideways. I can see it was wide that
way as well. Take that way.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Were you able to get an estimate of how tall.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It seemed to be not real.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Will, but I would.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Just kind of ballpark figuring it and maybe from the
rocks and boars and trees around it, you know, I would,
I would. I would have said, just guessing eight feet gotcha.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
At any time when you saw it fifty yards away
from you and it it was moving, it was walking,
did you ever see anything glowing at all or anything
that made any any light.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, I don't think anything was glowing. I think it
was a reflection. I think when I saw its eyes,
it was a reflection from the moon, is what I
think it was. Yeah, the first time I saw the
eyes across the canyon with my friend, I think the
redness coming it was a reflection I believe from the
light was there. So I don't I don't think it
(17:08):
was glowing. I think it was reflected from you know,
the light from the moon.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Sure were you able to see any of that reflection
when you were looking at it when it was starting
to move walk away after the rock was thrown at you, Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, it would. It would look forward, it would
turn look at me and and I see the eyes
were looking at me, and they would they would they
would have a turn again and go to walk forward
and to look back again, maybe probably three times. I
probably saw it transcend toward to me and saw reflection
when it was on the side of the ridge. I
(17:44):
see that. I see that reflection of the eyes.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
What what color did it seem to have for reflection?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Red?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, so it was red at that time as well.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
When it.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Made the move in order to turn its head to
look at you, could you tell if it was more
of a having to turn its whole body or was
it able to just turn its head and look over.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
No, I think it turned. I think it was kind
of both. I think it was its shoulder turned too,
and its head would turn a little bit with it.
I believe that's how I kind of so more of
a more of his body I think turned first, you know,
a shoulder turned back and turned towards me. And you know,
(18:37):
I believe they had turned some too, sure most of
the body. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Was there anything that you noticed that would have made
you think that you're dealing with a male or a
female bigfoot?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No? I could make that out at all.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
No, gotcha? How did this affect you? After you had
this encounter? And then you know, you go back home
and you try to go about your life. Did it
affect you in any ways right off the bat, Oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Mean I just I went nuts on researching and before
I know, I always kind of you know, I never
I never dismissed sasquatropic for the being real. I didn't.
I wasn't one of those people that are like, oh,
that can't be true, and it's there's no way. I
always have an open mind about it, but I didn't
know it existed, and I didn't really put my thought
(19:30):
into it. So when I after it happened to me, yeah,
I became not on researching it and looking at other
people's stories and just finding out there every tribe in
the world has a name for it. And the encounters
people's witness account encounters are just so consistent with some
(19:53):
of the things that I came across. The you know,
the smell, I thought I miss all the thing out
of the canyon, but in my camp I realized, Okay,
maybe that was big fit. I came into a camp
and the smell is consistent, and the rock throwing and
the eyes seemed consistent for a lot of people, and
so many behaviors. You know, people don't make up those
(20:14):
things and it's so consistent, and being law enforcement and
witnesses are important, and when the stories are consistent, that's important.
You know, people aren't you know, of course there's going
to be some people that are fraudule in their stories,
and that when those people when a lot of people,
most of them are very consistent in their stories. Okay,
somethings to this, something's going on, sure, So yeah, since
(20:41):
you know, twenty years I just became a nun researching
it and so changed me for sure. I became assesssed
at times and look in researching it. And you know,
doctor Milderham. It's close to where I live, so I
would email him and call him and pick his brain
a little bit, and I began to respect him. You know,
(21:02):
he's and his science. You know, you know things that
he's come across, and you particulately things real well, how okay, yeah,
you're right mid tussle break, that's it. Absolutely. You know.
His his explanations were, am I, okay, you know you're
right or something to this, and and I believed them.
(21:24):
I didn't tell many people the story for a long time,
and then I told my friend that night. He knew
I was someone's wrong with me, and you know, he
kept asking on the way home, what's wrong, and I'm good.
I finally told him and he that's when he told me, Okay,
our friend, but what I mentioned to you that I
(21:47):
heard those noise, heard those screams up in the in
the area. He told me, yeah, our land from from work,
you know heard I heard these screams up there for years.
And he can't he can't put there, you know, a
creature to those streams. So I think he believed me
because of that when he said that, And then I
finally told a friend of mine and we were pretty
(22:09):
close during that time. He's a deputy sheriff. I won't
use his name, and it finally told him and he
and when I did it, he's like, oh, and I
could tell something was honest. His demeanor changed and he
knew something was he knew something.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I said.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I pushed him, what what are you what? Something's you're
thinking about something? And you want to tell me, I think,
So I kept bugging him, tell me what you're thinking,
and he finally told me. He came across the Sasquatch
what he believed to be a sasquatch over and led
or Idaho m He told me, you know, me and
me and my friend he was and I an a
(22:50):
false police officer and him were I mean folders down
what they called eight mile of trail up and let
or and then coming down this canyon. It was towards
you know, he was getting trying to get dark. There
still light enough to see well, but the sun was
starting to go down. And he came out the corner
(23:12):
and he said his friend was ahead of him. So
his friend had passed whatever the scene was, and he came.
He came on his corner and he said this scene
was off the trail. So the trail to the right dropped,
and he said this scene was standing on the off
the side of the trail and his back was to
him and it put his arm out to kind of
(23:34):
protect itself from the four wheather as he passed, and
he said that he was as tall as him on
his foot with her and was standing down below the trail.
So he thought, okay, the scene is like ten feet tall,
and he went past. He went down to the trail
head and made it with his friend, and he told
(23:57):
his friends for him this laughed at him, and see
you're full of it, and and that's why he was
so hesitant to tell me. I don't think he told
hardly anybody besides me and maybe his parents the story.
But fact that was pretty cool that, you know, Okay,
you know what else is out there that I don't
know about that people, you know, friends and family have experienced.
(24:19):
And since you know, I, since I told him my story,
he eventually told me his. And I think a lot
of people's reports are people's encounters don't get reported, you know.
I know that the BFRO has you know, a map
of how many reportings are across the nation, and I'm like, okay,
it's probably only like ten percent of the real reports,
(24:41):
if it's that much. You know, looking back to when
I was a kid, and it's not far from the
area where I had my encounter. You know, we we
would go, you know, on time reunions to it's called
the Kelly Canon area, which is, like I said, not
too far from policys we had my encounter. And I
remember because my cousins and we'd pick cuckleberries and there
(25:07):
and there's you know, you know, in a canopy of trees.
I remember one time I looked back way back at
then a canopy of trees and I saw the same
thing red eyes, and I would hit my cousin, hey,
what's that back there? And I one time I heard it.
I saw it swaying back and forth, and so did
(25:27):
she and we were like this and we point out
to her cousins, hey, look back there, what is that?
And you know, some of the cousins didn't care, so
we did, me and my female cousins of mine. So
after after my experience in the mounds and then looking
back to that, I'm like, okay, that is possibly a sasquatch.
And I after my research, and you know, I came
(25:50):
to realize, Okay, a lot of them are pretty curious
about kids and there kids being playful, and they'd come
down and watch kids being just sili and playful, and
I was in our to them, I believe. So it
made sense to me, okay, that that's why that was there.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Watching those chat a few a few questions for you.
You know, you're coming forward with your you know, your
full name and exactly who you are, and that you
were a state legislator. And not only that, it's not
that you're retired, it's that you're also trying to get
back into this position as well. Why come forward now
(26:26):
with what you experience regarding Bigfoot in these areas.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know, I'd have been afraid of truth, I guess
I've I've always been one the truth important to me,
and I don't want to and I know people, you know,
some people might get a little of this and they
chance a no job and you know they probab already
to do the ones that don't like me. But you know,
it's just my personality. I guess I don't. I'm not
really afraid of things like that. I'm just the kind
(26:54):
of cursions just always you know, speaks the truth. You know,
when I was not this, I was pretty hated by
this you know what we call the establishment, for speaking
the truth about what happened in the legislature. You know,
I would I would out him for hate. There's this
corruption there and there, and I would point it out.
(27:15):
So I was I was a big target for that
reason for speaking truth and and not and letting people
know the truth and what was going on. So I've
always I've always been one never been afraid to shy
away from the truth. And you know, I can't say
definitive definitively that what I saw was a bigfoot. But
(27:36):
all signs point to that direction. Of course, obviously, if
I I'm calling you and explaining the story to you
and and my friend that I had experience and let order,
I mean that was Crows the bill to him, and
he was so hesitant to tell me that. He was like,
(27:56):
he was trying to offer it to me. This is
what happened to me, and please believe me. You know,
he was so hesitant to tell me, and I'm like, Okay,
this is this is true.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
He's not lying to me.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
You know. It's just I've always been wondered to seek
truth and I don't care what people think. It's just
too I am.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I guess during your time as a legislator so far,
did the topic of bigfoot ever come up in conversation
or did people know that, hey, Chad's the bigfoot guy,
you know, anything like that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, I never I never prought it up to anybody,
am I the little legislators or in that realm of politics,
And I mean I wouldn't try away from it. I
guess I never came up a topic. And you know
the times I made there, you know, you know you
know there's one I trust and I would tell that
story too, and I just never came up. So I
(28:50):
guess I didn't think about killing anybody. That.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Have you heard of any other government officials that have
also had big foot encounters? Anything that you've heard through
your channels over the years.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh yeah, I mean I've done a lot of research
and her stories from you know, police officers, and I
mean not not in our area, but yeah, I've heard
lots of individuals that were Dublin officials that were you know,
forest rangers and police officers and you know Dutch princes
and their how they were told to be quiet. You know,
if you don't be quiet, you lose your job. Well,
you know I did show went up in North Idaho
(29:31):
a story that came across the different research and it
was a state employee that was out so doing some
kind of surveying I think, out in forests for a
long for like a month at a time, and they
came across a family and then you know this, this
this guy was streating with his job. He if you
don't be quiet, you know, you don't lose your job.
(29:53):
So I know, I know that would happen to an
Idol State employee. I don't. I think it was up
Orth or maybe Central Idaho. You know, I came across
some stories of guides over in that same area around
Palisades Sasha's chronicles. I came across the story of it
a guide over in the area where I was, and
(30:14):
he had like three encounters. Michael it cal He's a
lot more prevalent than I thought in the area.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
What do you think it would take for the topic
of bigfoot to be widely accepted or disclosed?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You know, I don't. I believe that there's been after
you know, after by twenty years of research, I do
believe there's been bodies fund and and you know, a
good amount of evidence that's been found. I think the
government just covers it up. So I don't know if
anything that we've, any evidence that we find, can be
really put on the mainstream science and media. I don't
(30:56):
think it's I think the government cuts up so much
and threatens people that it's not a possibility to be
to get to that point. In my opinion.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I've heard stories like that as well, some of them
that can never really be put out there into the public.
But there there are some some definite stories out there
of the government showing up in different areas, like maybe
even the Navajo reservation and showing up with black SUVs
and and you know, taking whatever it was off in
(31:30):
their vehicle.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Oh, and I didn't. He was telling the story about
as well as the story of my friends over and led.
Or he went back to that area. I could. I
could a few days later because he was curious. I
would have been scared to go back, I guess. But
he he got curious and went back to that trail
and he started up the trail a little ways. Also
(31:54):
enything was taped off, and he you know, the trail
was was closed, and he came across the ranger that
was really close started questioning the rangers, and the ranger
started saying, hey, you know, my closing trail because of
a cougar has been having problems, and he's like, he
kept questioning him, and he didn't believe him, so he
(32:14):
kept questioning the ranger. The ranger got a little stinty
with him, and so, yeah, that did happen with him.
My friend to mention that, So I think they're that
ranger knew something was going on there with what he
saw so did he. So that's that's why he was
so he questioned that ranger so much.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's a tricky subject because, and I've never heard this
from just from what I've heard, I think a lot
of those guys, you know, if they do start talking
on record, I mean, they're going to lose their job. Actually,
I can say I've talked to one guy out in
the Pacific Northwest and yeah, he won't come on there,
(32:56):
but he's sad stuff happened out there. And let's just
say the the PNW, uh this is pretty wild. Well,
it's it's getting close, man. So I would feel that
over the last let's say, maybe ten years or less,
we've really started to experience a disclosure in the UFO
(33:17):
or UAP phenomenon field. And it's slow, it's really really slow.
Do you think that will ever happen on the big
Foot side of things or are we probably a while
away from that.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yes, it's a good question, you know, I know, you know,
in my research, I came across the Army manual and
in that same area that you just mentioned, the city
northwest of Roshington. Well, they in that manual they were
talking about you know, you know, if you come across
the Sasquatch, this is what you do. So and that
(33:58):
was a real army manual for for training. But so
I think it's kind of been in and out. I
think if we're gonna print something like that in an
army manual, I think that there was it can be
kind of gradually canal into that in that realm of
being more open and honest about discussion, you know, and
(34:22):
what was to me, you know, doctor Meldrim was very
open about it, and I appreciated about him. He was
just you know, we were kind of like that, you know,
you know, I liked that way that we were just
we cared about truth and that's what he cared about.
And to see all these professors treat them like crab
really really bugged me. You know. That was you know,
(34:43):
they made fun of him, and his colleagues wouldn't talk
to him and made fun of him. And that's so
I guess my point with Dad is just getting past
that childishness and and having an open mind and and
stop stuffing science a way like they did. You know,
you know, Molder had good science behind what he what
(35:05):
he knew to be true, and stop dismissing that. I
guess it's going to be the key to the key
to that theme.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You know, Oh absolutely. I mean doctor Meldrum was a
fantastic individual. I there's going to be there's quite a
void to fill, and hopefully, for sure we all realize that,
you know, we need to step up in that regard,
and I believe some people already are. Would you be
able to talk to individuals that might be listening to
(35:35):
this particular episode that are let's say, in higher maybe
government positions or et cetera, that might have knowledge about
you know, Bigfoot that they're not coming forward with and
why is it?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I just had some really fun interference on my side.
Uh wow, oh boy. Okay, So could you take a
minute to maybe discuss about why it would be important
for those individuals as well to come forward with what
they know about this subject?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, I think it's important for you know one. You know,
the reason I mentioned before is just you know, the truth.
I think the truth is important. I think people deserve
to know what's out there. I think there's beings out
there that you know, I think some are very docile
and friendly and some are some are aggressive. You know,
(36:42):
I think they're a lot like like humans.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I think there are.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Different personalities involved. I think it's important for people to
be aware of if possible dangers in the wild. And
I think you know, these these these government workers or officials,
you know, they what to their to the public. I
believe in my opinion that you know, to tell the truth.
(37:09):
You know there there are people to go missing in
the mountains every year, and I think I think some
some can attribute to to these creatures. I think they
have it have to kidnap people and taking people, and
I think that's and I think, like I said, I
don't think all about that. I think a very small
portion of these beings are aggressive. What there are some
(37:32):
that are, and I think people deserve to be aware
of what's around them and and the possibilities of you know,
being out there in the forest and then their surroundings.
I think, you know, these government officials are what to
the public. To speak up and tell what's going on.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I agree one hundred percent. And to put a little
plug out there, I guess for the own my own show.
If you are listening and you do have something to share,
and even if it is off record, and anonymous and
it can't go on the show. I'd still love to
talk to you. I think that information is still important
(38:13):
and if you do want to come on on the
show and share whatever you know, please reach out to
me at Big Fuz societygmail dot com. But Chad Man,
this has been such such an interesting conversation in an
area where you know, I've had a few people on
from the Palisades area and there's some weird stuff going
(38:36):
on in that region as as you've experienced yourself, and
if other people I've experienced stuff around there, please reach
out too. But you know, Chad, I want to make
sure that you were able to share everything that you
came to the show today to share about.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, you know, I had those three different experiences I
wanted to share. You know. I know my experience as
a kid was brief, but asually I had experience in
the mountains. I look back to my you know that
came to my head and yeah, I remember as a child.
But yeah, I did share all the experiences that I
came to share.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Absolutely, Well, thank you so much for spending some time
on the show today. It was a privilege to have
you on, and I wish you. Best of luck to
in the future as you try to get a I
guess another be another four years in the state legislator
of Idaho.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Those two year terms two years, yeah, get yeah, hope. Yeah,
I'm going for the Senate at this time and before
I was in the House, so I'm going to get
for the Senate this next in twenty six so yeah,
I'll get a two year term if I get in again.
And yep. So I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Fantastic And just asking is there anything that you would
want people to follow, you know, regarding yourself or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Sure, I mean, I guess my Facebook campaign pages check
which is for freedom loving Idahoans. He's my Facebook page,
and yeah, follow that and for more campaign information and
that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Awesome, good stuff. Well, chat Thank you again for coming
on the show. It has been a pleasure chatting with you,
and we'll have to stay in touch maybe for the future.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
You have a good one, sir, you too, Thanks Jeremiah.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told
to stay quiet. If you're a pilot who's seen something
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the
(40:51):
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if
you're a firefighter, ParaMed or search and rescue responder who's
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something
(41:12):
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or
(41:33):
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,
then I want to talk to you, Even if it's anonymous.
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,
(41:56):
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