Firefighter Photographs Bigfoot in Oregon Wildfire Zone

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
So settle in because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us. All right, big Forest Society, You've
got the privilege of talking to Sarah Hall today. Thanks
for being on the show. Sarah, how are you great?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
How are you Danjremah?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm doing great, awesome, Thanks for having me. Yeah, this
is a fun interview for me because even though I
spend all my time pretty much doing the podcast, I
also love watching stuff to do with Bigfoot, and you
are the person behind Bigfoot Fae, which is really my favorite,

(01:02):
I would say my favorite YouTube Bigfoot channel. You know
it's incredible and everyone needs to be subscribed to that.
So just a few things about Sarah Sarah's a barber
from Clacamus County, Oregon, which has a ton of activity
in its Most listeners will know any town in Clacamus.

(01:23):
I mean that's your mount Hood, National Forest area. Places
like what Malala is in Clacamus too, Write and Es, Decado.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Culton, Beaver Creek, Oregon.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
City, goat Mountain, all that good stuff. Do you mind
sharing how you got into doing the Bigfoot Fades channel
and what all is entailed with that?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, actually has a lot to do with you. But
let me start first with kind of my interest in Bigfoot.
I want to say it kind of started back in
twenty twelve. I was working in Portland at a barber
shop over in Selwa that I helped open, and my
brother kept sending me all these like YouTube videos and saying, hey,
big that's real, and he's kind of a prankster type

(02:10):
of guy, so I thought he was kind of messing
with me, but I realized he was actually being pretty serious.
So I started watching everything I could find on YouTube,
and back in twenty twelve, this is kind of when
YouTube sort of took off and started. There wasn't really
much out there, so I just started asking people that
I was cutting their hair. And I only had one
person that told me, hey, I used to be a

(02:32):
firefighter down in Sisters Organ and actually I got like
a big casting down there, and a bunch of my
friends told me that it was. They wouldn't tell me
what it was, and so I said really, and he
was pretty serious, you know. I could tell he was
tell me the truth. And that was the only story
I got. And it kind of just died from twenty

(02:53):
twelve until this year. Actually, I kind of dropped it
and didn't have any leads. Well, anyways, I started working
in a few new areas and I moved out to
the forest of Clackamus County about I want to say,
five years ago. And then my brother goes, hey, you
should start looking and asking people again, and I thought, okay,

(03:14):
So I started asking people and actually, so this is
how it gets into your channel. Somebody was telling me, yeah,
you should actually check out Sasquatch Chronicles and I said, okay.
So I started watching some stories on there, and then
your channel showed up, and then there was some stories
that were kind of hitting Colton malala esdicaid and I'm like,
no way, they're out here, and I'm like looking outside, like, wait,

(03:36):
they could actually, So I commented on one of your
stories and then you reached out to me actually and said, hey,
I'd love to hear more from you. So that's where
I started collecting stories from other people, and all of
a sudden they just started flooding in and so yes,
my channel to answer your question was basically to help
support your channel and collect stories from other people that

(03:57):
have had encounters.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's it's it's so cool. If everyone that listened to
the show did something like that. Can you imagine, Oh
my goodness, we would be so much further along. But
Sarah that the thing about your channel is that you
are it's such an active area Clackamiss County people. I

(04:23):
don't know if you really get it until you go
out there, which I did spend some time out there
this summer in July, and it is extremely saturated. The
things that you have going. I would even imagine you
can probably go up to most people on the street

(04:44):
in certain towns and say like just be like, hey,
what's your bigfoot story? And they will have, if not
a first person account, they will have at least some
secondhand thing that they've heard. Usually you can get to
these areas where the towns intersect the forest. I would
guess what forty five minutes from Portland probably yeah? About that, yeah,

(05:09):
wild wild stuff. So I remember the first time I
listened to your show. It's very cool because has certain
NPR vibe to it, because you could actually hear the
sound effects of you cutting hair as you're talking to
the person and about their bigfoot story. Really really cool stuff.
Do you have any favorite stories that come to mind

(05:33):
that you've heard over the short amount of time that
you've been able to talk to people about their encounters.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, I would say my favorite story because I didn't
actually believe it at first. It was just so out.
There was one where a guy told me he was
hunting in the Redland Forest of Oregon City area. He
had to go past the gate. He was hunting with
his dad, but his dad was kind of often in
another area, and he sees a deer through his scope
and he gets the deer and he said, what he

(06:01):
thought at first was a bear came up and tried
to take the deer, but when he looked closer, it
wasn't a bear. It was like a giant sas squatch.
She said, and he goes, yeah, I just popped off
three shots kind of near it, just to kind of
scare it off, and it did kind of a jump,
and then it just kind of took off through the forest.
And I couldn't believe this guy wasn't more like excited

(06:25):
about it. He actually seemed annoyed that bigfoot tried to
take his deer. Right, So, that story, I think, really
stood out to me, and again, like it was really
hard for my brain to process this new information until
a week later, another man who doesn't know this person,
told me he also saw a bigfoot in that same
area of Viola, in the Redland area, and it was

(06:46):
just standing in the road when him and his dad
were kind of driving around there, and he goes, yeah,
first I thought it was a man, then I thought
it was an animal. And when we drove it closer
to it was just sort of staring at us. And
it almost made me wonder if it was the same
real bigfoot because there both two years ago in the
same area.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh man, Oh okay. When you're talking to people in
areas of Clacamus County when you're doing your barber thing,
have you found that there are certain areas that keep
coming up in stories. I have found that myself with

(07:24):
areas like Clacamus County and really Oregon in general.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, I feel like up in that Tumula Mountain previously
known as Squad Mountain up off of Oregon's Big Foot Highway,
there's definitely a lot of activity up there, and I've
definitely heard from there, and then that stretch over into Colton,
it seems like there's just a really hot spot through
that whole area there where all that activity, and I'd

(07:50):
actually like to create a map like you've done and
start kind of seeing where these connect to each other.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I would recommend you do that probably now instead out
of three years in the future. Okay, like I did.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
You're almost on a thousand episodes.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, because I the other day, I try to work
on it every day. I'm like, I think, and I'm no, dude,
You've got like six hundred episodes left to go through
for this map.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But it's really worth it, because Sarah, this is what
happened to me when I went out to Oregon this July.
So I'm out down in Oakridge. I'm like, all right,
I'm going up to Mount Hood and so I'm driving
up and over the passes, and I'm going from Subtle
Lake up to Estacada area, okay, and through Detroit and stuff,

(08:43):
and I this is before the map, And I was like,
I know there's stuff that's happened all over here, but
I couldn't like remember all of it. I was like, oh,
my goodness, this is why I need a map, because
when I'm out here, there is so much stuff, and like,
I need I need to remember. Okay, you need to
check out places like fish Lake before you get to
the pass. And next time I'll be more prepared and

(09:06):
I'll be able to look up pretty much all the
people I've talked to. Have you found that when you're
talking to people, are they more of a certain age bracket?
Are these more younger people or older people or is
it really all over the place.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I feel like most of them, I'd say about seventy
percent or older people. I've got a lot of older
hunters that, you know, they don't have the internet. They
come out of the woods every six months for a
haircut kind of thing, and some of them I've cut
their hair multiple times before even asking them about it,
and very seriously, you know, they'll tell me, hey, I

(09:42):
have seen something back in the sixties or seventies up
until recently. And then there's a few younger people like
the guy with the hunting with the deer and that
he was i'd say younger, probably in his thirties, a
couple of thirty year olds, and I've even had some
pretty young kids actually tell me that they've seen things
at night at like one in the morning, like three tall, black,

(10:04):
shadowy figures. And then I had another man tell me
the same story in that same area.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I think I remember because your channel at the beginning,
I had the was it teenagers that were around the
the the was it like woodyard or pretty much? I
think it was like right outside of Esticada and they
had a sight. Yes.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, it's an old abandoned lumber mill that I believe
was taken down. It actually feels pretty haunted out there.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say, like certain
TV show names, but it kind of reminds me of
a you can do whatever you want stranger things. Have
you seen stranger things at all?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Totally?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It feels like that.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Really.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
It feels the energy out especially we'll just focus on
like Esticada. I've gone out there a few times. It's
it's very intense out there, Like he just feels like
you're in this all of a sudden, this energy bubble
when you go out there. So yeah, it kind of
feels like stranger things.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I will agree with you on that. I did go
out in that area this slash July, and it's one
of those areas in Oregon you get out in the
woods and things can things can change really quick.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, it's you know the whole like it gets quiet
and things of that that nature. And and hopefully someday
there'll be there'll be more info that comes out about
that trip, but not quite yet, but uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
And I've been going out there since I was like
a really small child. My mom took us to the
mount Hood Forest and I mean since we were like
little babies. And I still remember this one time we
went up to the Carver Park and she found this
actual like wolf dog and took it home. Oh wow,
she ended up having to rehome this dog because it
was just so wild. But as decade has always had
like a wild side to it, and I've been associated

(12:02):
with it since just even a small child. So as
far as even bringing wolf dogs home.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Over the years, and especially you did mention that you
you actually live out in the forest. Really yes, in.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Your Creek Melino area.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Have you had anything the ordinary happened to yourself out
there in that area.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
So I've been trying to pay more attention. I actually
looked up to see if there's any sightings in my area,
and I did find one from Cliff Berkson on his
website from Beaver Creek organ and it said it was
off Beaver Creek Road and Upper Highland. And so I
know where that area is. I know it's in you know,
distance where if there was a big foot it could

(12:45):
get over to my area. And so I started looking
around and I found a couple questionable possible footprints and
took some castings of those. I've seen some weird kind
of like limbs that were placed up against a tree.
And when I asked all my family, they all said
none of them did that. And you know, I've been
trying to tell them, hey, you know that it could
be bigfoot and try to educate them on it, and

(13:06):
now they're all kind of going, huh, maybe they are
out here.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh absolutely, And I mean I just I cannot imagine
being someone that lives in that area, and just the
opportunity to be able to just just go out in
these areas, the areas I was going out to and Esticada.
I mean, you'd be on top of this ridge and

(13:31):
you would see all these branches and trees just like
twist broken, like eight to ten feet off. And I
don't know if that's something that you see down in
your area, but it is just it's breath taking the
first time you actually see that in person. It is
wild stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. I saw one actually a couple of days ago
for the first time. I was driving and they were
doing tree trimming along the very end of Upper Highland
and one caught my eye. Go, oh my god, look like,
you know, a tree about this big and it had
been twisted off to the side. And so when I
came back that way later in the day, I actually
tried to get video of it, but I had a

(14:11):
truck behind me, so I had to be kind of
quick about it. Sort of a sketchy spot to stop
and you know, private property. But yeah, it didn't look right.
I've never seen a tree twisted like that. And then
I noticed behind it like a creek waterway, and when
I looked at old street view. It was actually all forced,
but it has now been turned into like a scaled
down tree farm for like Christmas trees. So if you

(14:34):
go further up into Colton, one guy was telling me
that his mom and aunt I think it was about
thirty years ago, had seen a giant bigfoot run across
the way from on a few miles up from there.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh my goodness. And this is actually you have. This
is in a video. Everything you just shared it. Sometimes
you'll put out videos where you're like just driving along
the road, which is cool in itself because then you
get to see what it's like to drive out in Oregon. Yeah,
you actually show I think video or pictures of that
tree that you found, right I did?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm always driving with dash can because I'm
hoping i'll catch one run out in front of me,
my luck around behind me and my back dash can
isn't set up yet.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Right, that'd be cool. Though. Something I've noticed that you
started to do, which I think is cool and I
want to start trying to implement this myself, is you've
actually started to get people to come on camera to
share their encounters. And some of those just seem like

(15:36):
there are people maybe out walking on the side of
the road in town, maybe not especially in a barber chair,
but I can can you share, like, how how does
that process work? How are you able to get those
people on a camera? Because it's one thing to get

(15:57):
audio of someone, but to get someone actually put their
face out there, that's another thing. Entirely.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, I feel like, I don't know. I've always been
tel marketing and sales, and my philosophy has always been
it doesn't hurt to ask them if they want dessert,
you know, So if you don't ask, you know, the
least I can say is no. I definitely get a
lot of no's. So you know, there's a lot of
people that don't even want to be on the podcasts,
but they still want to tell me their story. And

(16:26):
I think it ties back into another thought I've had
is that I've seen kind of a split where some
people have a lot of excitement with their story and
the other half kind of exhibit this sort of PTSD,
And I feel like the ones that do want to
go on camera, I sort of lean into the fact
I'm feeling more of that excitement from them, and even

(16:46):
I've kind of dropped the subject with them and they'll
come back later and like really bring it up. So
I'm just trying to not be too pushy with people
and let them, you know, lead their story if they
want to.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Have you ever experienced where you are talking to someone
about their encounter and their emotional states starts changing rapidly?
Have you ever experienced that yourself?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah? I was actually doing my friend Gail's hair yesterday,
were doing a hair color on her, and she told
me a story before, non Bigfoot related, but it was
sort of a ghost story about how she saw someone
that looked like I think Charles Manson back at her
Nebraska house. Anyways, I was doing her hair again yesterday
and she goes, you know, the more we've been talking
about it, the more I had this repressed memory that's

(17:36):
been coming back. And I was about five years old
and I was in Nebraska and I went off and
it was really humid out, the forest was really quiet,
and I saw this branch just swinging like someone had
taken it and swung it. And she goes, I kept
trying to want to tell you about this, but my
mind kept saying, no, that didn't happen. But she goes, no,
it happened. I remember it, and it was like something

(17:58):
didn't want me there. Just got so quiet, and I
went back to my family as quick as I could,
and I thought about that, and I was thinking about
my own memories, like I told you as a child, Like,
you know, did I see some weird booking people when
I was camping with my family? You know, you start
thinking about these memories and it's almost like a therapy

(18:18):
session where it starts reopening these locked memories that people have.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
No it really is. Interviewing the person is almost as
interesting as the subject matter itself. Sometimes it is. That's
how I feel. Anyways, the encounters that you are taking
and there primarily i'd say a lot of them are
from the Clackamus County area. Have you found any patterns

(18:49):
as to like, are there a lot of aggressive ones
or there a lot where you know, the bigfoot really
isn't bothered and kind of just walks off and like
a see you later, or any patterns like that.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'd say more of them are aggressive, actually, which has
me kind of feeling like I don't know if I
want to go out there and physically look for them.
I'm still on the fence about that. I'm kind of
enjoying being more on the research side. One story up
in Tumula Mountain was two men went up there years ago.
They found a bear that had been like ripped in

(19:23):
half and its head ripped off and it was still
freshly bleeding. He knows. My friend was, you know, six
foot tall, and he's jumping over logs and running out
of there. They just felt something watching them, and I'm like, okay.
And then I heard another story i think on your
podcast about a hunter found under a tree that had
been ripped apart, also by some unknown animal. Yeah, and

(19:45):
so I'm kind of seeing this pattern with like a
ripping apart type of thing. So that's where the data
starts to collect and go because you know, I've told
other people the story and they believe it or they go, oh,
there's nowhere you know it had to have been another
bear or this or that. Well right now, you know
there's missing people up in that area right now that
they have search parties out there for. And so when

(20:05):
you get these kind of things going on, it kind
of starts to hold water.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, absolutely, and that's actually a patterns come up on
the podcast too, And you're absolutely right, because man to
tag onto that. So your account that you have of
the bear being torn apart, and then I believe the
one that you reference to on my show that's down

(20:32):
in the Talladega National Forest in Alabama. But then you
also have accounts where people are finding grizzly bears out
in Montana with their necks broken, and the kind of
common thing there is that those things take something with

(20:53):
hands to do, right, I mean, to tear something apart,
or to break something neck or you have a lot
of reports of animals found twisted, like foxes being twisted,
things like that. I agree with you. I don't think
that I would ever I'll go on record, I will
not ever go especially in that area out in the

(21:16):
woods by myself. I don't think that is a smart
idea at all, multiple multiple reasons, not just Bigfoot, but
there's also some pretty wild encounters you can have with
humans out there as well. Yeah, I've heard some really
horror stories about that.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I've heard that too, kind of up that Tumul Mountain,
someone said something about and this story, of course I
should have written it down, but it was something about
there was some kind of cult up there that either
they or somebody else and you kind of stumbled upon
and there were some kind of weird animal sacrifice stuff
going on up there, and so anyways, Yeah, they've had
a history up in the woods and mount Hood of

(21:57):
some really odd activity even still to this day, still
stuff going on, just kind of different camps going on
in Bonfire's night and this sketchy kind of energy up there.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Sometimes have you ever experienced people that have also seen
things besides Bigfoot, but in the same area, maybe things
of high strangeness, orbs or lights or things that are
hard for them to explain besides Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, it's buried in my notes a little bit, but
I feel like there's at least two or three stories
where there's orbs associated with Bigfoot sightings and Christmas tree
areas and forest areas. I believe one story the guy
was chasing the orb and trying to figure out where
it was going. And I feel like the color seems
to keep being blue orbs. It is the theme I

(22:54):
have heard of orange orbs. One of my clients told
me that he's seen one up and I want to
say Washington area, and it was kind of floating and
then it just sort of shot off in the sky.
So that's another ORB story there, and I find those
really fascinating.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Oh, I as well. I mean, and it's a thing
where I've never seen a bigfoot. But and it sounds
like you are in the same camp. You have not
had a visual yet you're set either. Yeah, but I've
never seen an ORB either. Have you seen an ORB yet?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I haven't seen an ORB. But there was one night
when I was living in Selwen, they were posting on
Facebook saying, Hey, the Northern lights are gonna be out tonight,
so you should go out and check them out. So
I was upstairs and again this is around twenty twelve,
and I was looking out the window to see if
i'd see the Northern lights, and I saw these two
really bright white lights that were kind of going like this,

(23:44):
and then they stopped, and then they started going like this.
I was like, what the heck's I ran downstairs and
I went outside to kind of get a better look,
and they were gone. So that's the only time I've
ever seen anything that actually stopped midair so calculated and
actually went in a different direction. I don't think it
could have been a helicopter. I chalked it off as
maybe government drones that were trying to look at the

(24:05):
lights or something, but now I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, that's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's too far from the airport for it to be
like an air traffic control light.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Also, good call, Good call. Does anyone bring up anything
any interactions with Bigfoot that would be labeled more paranormal
or things like I heard a voice in my head
or I saw one disappear. Does that ever come up?

(24:36):
Or is it more like we saw something that looked
like a really big ape out in the woods and
have no idea what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, I feel like I've definitely got kind of a
mix of stories. I feel like there was always there's
been this split of people that believe in Bigfoot, and
then people that don't believe in Bigfoot, and now the
people that believe in Bigfoot. That community has split again
into people that believe in Bigfoot and then people that
believe in paranormal Bigfoot. And I sort of sit in
the middle as an investigator, open to like all these
different encounters because you know, like I was saying before,

(25:07):
sometimes my brain says, Oh, that can't be real until
I start hearing more data, and then I'm like, well,
obviously they have to eat deer or something. So now
that does make sense. So the paranormal to me, you know,
my brain of processing it is, you know, maybe we
just don't understand everything the way that we've been told.
So like energy, I've always been into, you know, personally,

(25:28):
like my religion and all that. I grew up Catholic
and Christian and all that, but I feel like I've
kind of segued more into like a quantum physics type
of person. You know. I wouldn't say personally, you know,
I'm super like religious. I'm kind of more into like
feeling like there's kind of like stranger things like when
they were in that upside down world. I almost feel
like there's this other energy world out there that we're

(25:50):
tapped into, and I just don't know that, you know,
we know as very much about it yet. So that's
just kind of what my vibe is.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I know, Zachly what you're talking about. Have you
been able to I would really recommend reading Doctor Simeon's
Doctor Simeon Hines book if you get a chance to. Uh,
it really lays out a lot of cool stuff and
or or the two part interview that he does on

(26:21):
Flash of Beauty. I enjoyed that. I mean that. I
also yeah, you could listen to him on Big for
Society too, But the two part interview on Flash of
Beauty is is phenomenal, phenomenal. I would recommend it. You
had a So you sent me an email a while back, Yes,

(26:47):
and I want to if you could. So it's some
pictures that you sent and they're really really interesting, and
can you share the story of of how you got
these these pictures first and what you know about the
background of them.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, so they're actually from somebody who had been on
my podcast. He has two different stories here and then
I'll look at this story here real quick. So he
is the story on here that's called let's see it's
the Bigfoot nineteen ninety six s Stickata Sidi. So he
had a citing himself in nineteen ninety six, and then

(27:30):
his friend's son had an eagle cap wilderness siting that's
pretty interesting where he had a visual where it came
out on a road on them. So that's a great
story to check out. So I followed up with him later.
He actually told me he goes, hey, look at this,
and I go what is that? And He's kind of
looking through his phone at first, like he's so excited

(27:52):
to show this to me. And so he finally shows
it to me, and I didn't know what. I was like.
I go, I go, what is that? He goes, it's
a bigfoot and I looked at it like, no, it's not.
And I looked at it, oh my, and uh, not
this picture, but the other one. I actually when I
clicked on the other one, I could see a face
on it, like right away, and I go, how'd you
get this? And he goes, well, it was our friend's

(28:12):
friend that's a wild Lend fire fighter that had sent
it to us in our forum. And I go, it's
okay if I share this. He goes, yeah, absolutely, go
out go at it, and he goes, yeah, he was
out there working an he's seen a bigfo out there
just sifting through ashes. And at first my brain was like,
why would it be sift sifting through ashes? You know?
So I started researching why something would you know, have

(28:36):
put ashes on itself, and it said sometimes if you
have burn injuries, it could be healing for heat protection.
There was a few different examples that came up. But
then if you look at the other picture and go
to the top left of it and kind of zoom in.
It almost looks like there's another one up there watching,
So it's really other. Yeah, it's the other picture, I think,

(28:58):
the one where it's like one.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, that not the Darth Vader one. I call the
other one the Darth Vavor one.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, oh right here there. Yeah, because if you look,
it's like a different color of black compared to the
tree total. So I noticed that. So something I've been
trying to do too is really so. I also went
to school for technology and cybersecurity, and I feel like
I just kind of have a knack for the tech stuff.

(29:26):
And uh, I've been using AI and Photoshop and all
this stuff to kind of really enhance and bring these
photos to life. So the third photo where you kind
of see more of a picture, I went in and
cleaned it up the best I could, and uh, you
could also see almost like a very wide looking nose,
like two eyes, pigment of like skin that's lighter than

(29:47):
the hairline. And I was actually able to use an
AI to actually bring that to life. And I didn't
even say anything to AI like this is a sad
squash or this is you know, AI just did. I
just put it in there and it interpreted it, which
is really fascinating.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Wow, yeah that is I think that's on your channel too, right, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
And the other thing about this picture is I accidentally
clicked on the picture and it was like redo location
or something like that, and then I actually found data
on the picture that said it was from twenty sixteen
and I think subliminity organ and I found the location
and when I did a Google Earth location of that,
it was all burnt down. So it really just like

(30:31):
lined up too that it was an picture from that time.
And there was also a wildfire story on the news
from that area too at that time.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Which is huge. And it's because that's something I was
going to bring up because I was looking through them
as well, and I was like, oh, yeah, the metadata
is all here on these two pictures, which is incredible.
It's actually still in the format that it would be
if it was taken on I believe h E. I

(31:01):
see is more like the Apple one iPhones, and those
two original photos are in there. The cool thing is
that so you got the GPS coordinates and so I
looked it up as well, and the area that it
comes up is just east of the John Day area,

(31:25):
which I mean fits because i've personally, I've had three
reports from that area, and usually it's people that are
freaked out big time by something and end up running away,
or they get like an infrasound activity, and it's just

(31:45):
some really really weird stuff that happens in the John
Day area. But so you're saying that this this actual
the guy, you were able to interview the guy about
what was happening when he took this photo, or is
just the same guy, different story.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
So it's so it's a guy that's been on my
podcasts like friend, Oh it's his friend or his friend's friends.
So it's almost like a hearsay photo that I got
from them. But these are all hunter guys that have
been hunting throughout Oregon forever. And you know, I'm really
good at reading like body language and stuff. He seemed

(32:23):
really like legit about it and really excited. And I mean,
I know photoshop, and there's no way in AI and
all that that that could have been an AI or
Photoshop picture, especially two really good ones like that, and
especially with the metadata coming from twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean there's nothing. I see so many
photos that come into my email, there's nothing that jumps
out that is saying, oh, these are obvious fakes. And
I mean it's just cool. Like the one where it
feels like it's kind of you know, bent over, probably
getting ashes or something. I mean, the head shape is right,

(33:02):
it looks like there's not really a neck to it,
the what you would say like it just it feels
like it's kind of leaning forward, although it's probably trying
to get the ashes. And man, it is just there's
some of the coolest photos that I've ever seen. So
people really need to check out the AI movement that

(33:29):
you were able to make it too over on your channel.
It's pretty cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, thank you. I feel like that one was a
pretty good shot there actually, And then I did some
other AI where I brought Patty to life, and with
that one, I also didn't say anything about it being like,
you know, a bigfoot or anything. I just put it
in there, and then what AI did with it was
pretty amazing. And then when I created the video, as
I've got further in, I said, you know, give Patty

(33:57):
a baby, or make Patty like fight the cougar. But
the few clips. They're about like five seconds each. That
was all AI's interpretation of like what it was in
the picture. So you just submit it into grock and
then it like just turns it into something, but it interprets.
So that was kind of fascinating. And I've been doing
it for other shots for other people and sending it
to him, like trail camshots. And then Hugh. I think

(34:20):
you've had Hugh on your show before up in Washington.
He's got a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, So I've cleaned up two things for him, and uh,
I don't want to post it yet because I need
to chat with him first, but I've cleaned up a
couple photos for him and he's pretty excited about what
I did there and actually turn him into video too,
So I don't know if you remember the one where
he's standing there and he's it's kind of shaking a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of, as it's
got to be the video where he's on top of
the mountain and it's shaky. Right.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
There's two. There's the on top of the mountain one
and there's one where he's scoping from like a cross
and there's like kind of like logs and it looks
like something, and I immediately it's like I see face
on that. So I cleaned it up, cleaned it up,
cleaned it up, and it almost looks to me almost
like a longer face Bigfoot, with like more of a
cinnamon color hair. And my theory too is like, maybe

(35:11):
have some that have rounder faces like Brad Pitt, longer
faces like Nicholas Cage. Maybe some are getting mistaken as
dog Man. I don't know, but I'm open to kind
of understanding these different face shapes with them.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Nifoot would be cool, Yeah, I think so that'd be
pretty soft, that'd be rocking a lot of emotion. Yes,
maybe not. Do you ever get stuff from it? Does
it all seem to be pretty much from from Klacamus?

(35:44):
Or do you ever get stuff from like Detroit in
a little further south.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Blue Mountains?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Okay, yep?

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And uh yeah. So that was one older hunter, I
want to say, in his eighties. He said he's seen
one over there back it was either the nineteen sixties
or nineteen seventies, And I asked them, well, you know,
what did it look like? He goes, oh, well, it
was just they're huge and they're multi colored gray like
a wolf. And he said, my son in law didn't

(36:13):
believe me that I was seeing him down there. But
since I'm older now, my daughter told me that he
has to go hunting with me. So we went somewhat recently,
I think, he said, and they were in their RV
and the son in law believes him now because one
came up and was shaking rv and messing with them.
And I just went over to the Bigfoot Research Center
and they have a cool map and there with all

(36:34):
the pins on there, and Blue Mountains were a really
hot spot.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
So yeah, absolutely, the Blue Mountains are extremely active area,
one hundred percent. When you're taking encounters, does stuff come
up where it's not Bigfoot? But maybe, well, I say,
do you ever get any things like dog Man from

(37:00):
the same area.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I feel like there is one dog man report. I'm
trying to remember which story that was, but there was
another one where it was actually the first interview I did,
and I was just sort of kind of joking around
like maybe I'll do a Bigfoot podcast. And I had
kind of a younger kid that day, and I said, hey,
you know, do you want to do you have any
Bigfoot stories? And he's like, actually, and I thought this

(37:23):
kid was like making it up at first. This story
gets kind of wild. He goes, actually, my uncle saw
one on his trail cam. It was a baby bigfoot,
you know. And I was like, but really, you know.
He goes yeah. So he's actually my first interview on there.
Really cool, really cool kid and everything. And so later,
I don't know, it was a couple months later. I
was cutting this guy's hair and I was talking about

(37:43):
bigfoot and he goes, yeah, I actually caught one on
my trail cam. And I'm like, wait a minute, is
this your nephew, and he goes yeah, and I go
no way. So he's looking and looking looking through his
phone and he showed it to me, and I seen
it and I begged him for that picture and he's like, yeah,
i'll give it to you. Never got the picture, but
I saw it, and the best way I can describe
it is it kind of looked like a little very

(38:04):
black mickey mouse running through like a woodpile. And he
said he took it up to the North American Bigfoot
Center and two out of three people there said, yeah,
you caught a baby bigfoot. And when you look up
like a baby gorilla. The shape and the darkness of
a baby gorilla was like really spot on, And I
asked him if he had had any other pictures and
he said, yeah, he caught kind of I forget how

(38:26):
he described it, but it was sort of like a
dog man something something crawling on fos type of deal.
So yeah, I was just talking to my brother about
that last night because he's a big bigfoot believer, but
he's he hadn't even heard of dog man before. There's
a lot of people who have not heard of dog Man.
So I'm really starting to kind of see if I

(38:48):
can collect anything in that area.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Mm hmm. Right, it's a wild thing. You know. That
stuff does come up on the show here too. If
if it's like I never go towards it by itself,
but like if the person's like, oh yeah, I saw
a dog man two, like okay, let's talk about it,
you know, and if it comes up organically. But I

(39:11):
mean I was talking to one dude and about the
Detroit area, and it's not just like a ton of
bigfoot they have there. There's also a lot of dog
man sightings as well in Detroit. Yeah, kind of north
of Detroit out on one of the roads, not the
not the Oregon Big Highway road that goes to the east,

(39:34):
but like just a random for service road that's north
of Detroit, and man, when I drove by, drove through
that area, that area is nuts. It's just it's there's
a very intense presence. It's hard to explain when you
drive through Detroit, and I'll tell you what, people really

(39:56):
don't want to talk about bigfoot there. Like I tried
talking to some locals. They were not having it. They
were like, nope, really, oh yeah, it was it was
really intense. Uh yeah. Most places I would talk to
people out there try to they'd be like, oh yeah, totally,
let's let's talk about that was like the one place
where they were just not on board. So that makes

(40:19):
me realize that any interviews I get from the Detroit
area are it's pretty it's a pretty lucky deal. Well
for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, I've been over there. I'm trying to think about
Opal Creek and hiked up in there, and it definitely
feels pretty wild up there. And I've experienced that with
people too that were all of a sudden, it's just
there's like a shift and energy when you kind of
bring it up and they're like, oh, no, we don't know.
It's it's like you're you know, you're asking them like, hey,
how was that when you went to war? And they

(40:50):
just get all of a sudden shut down, and you know,
you just see it. And I see a difference between
that and between like the ones that just don't believe it,
or you know, I want to respect people's religious beliefs.
There's some people have told me they just don't even
want to entertain it because they like to go out
hunting in the woods and they don't want it to
be ruined for them. That's someone Guy's exact words for me,

(41:13):
and I said, that was interesting. So I've kind of
learned how to navigate around different characters and kind of
what they're comfortable with. But I've definitely felt that, you
know that stranger things vibe again in some towns where
you know that that's kind of gone on. Like there's
this old barber and esticata called Millie Kiggins. I don't

(41:34):
know if you've ever heard her.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is in the it's actually in
the Oregon Big for Highway book by Joe Beelart. There's
a big section about this this person. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, so Ray Fender, he was talking to me about her,
the one that saw the Bigfoot in Esticado when he
was a young child. I think that was one of
your favorite stories. I talked to him first, and he
was telling me about Millie Kiggins. And when I was
reading it in the work in Bigfoot Highway, it was
saying that they had to kind of like shut people
out of that town because she brought so much activity

(42:07):
there with it. And then she started to get people
saying we're going to kill this thing this and that.
She's like, no, no, no, you're turning, you know. And
it's just like one of these movies that you watch
where she finds this cool thing and then people have
to ruin it and oh kill it, you know. And
I've actually had people say the same thing to me.
I've had, you know, hunters go if I see one,
I'll take it out and I and I kind of
get you know, defensive with them and say it looks

(42:30):
like a person. Though the every encounter that people had,
every single one I've heard, is said it has a
face a person. You really think you could like do
that to a person, Well, you know, I go, no,
you don't want to do that. And I also they're
protected by the government. You know. I've had hunters tell
me that they go low key. If you do something
to them, they're gonna, yeah, they're going to show up

(42:50):
your house. So don't do that. I'm warning you. If
you do see one, you better, you know, to prove
that it was defense.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
So leave them alone. Yeah, yeah, I mean there are
some areas in the US where it is like written down,
like if you do this, like Skiminia County, Washington is one, right,
like it's it's a fine, and I think I think
worse than a fine. Actually, yeah, man, if I had
a nickel for that, the people that I've had to

(43:20):
convince not to do that too, I'd have a few
nickels for sure. It's just the thing where well that
what you said. And then also on top of it,
it's like, you try to do this, you're probably not
walking away. I mean, the chances of you walking away
from this are so so slim. So it's just not

(43:41):
a good idea around around it all. Just don't do it,
you know, for for the creature, for yourself, you know,
just walk away.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Well yeah, and it kind of goes back to the
people that are missing, you know, up in the Malala Forest,
there's one hundred missing right now in ast Takaida. They've
had the best SAAR search and rest teams in Oregon
looking for this guy right now, and supposedly last week
he caught a deer and I think it was on
his Gamma like satellite radio. According to his Facebook posts
I saw he said, Hey, I got the deer. I'm

(44:13):
coming home early. And then there's so much hearsay with
this story, so I'm trying to keep it to the
most facts that I've seen. They thought they heard three
soos shots at night, so they've been out there every
day with thermal drones, drones ATBs. That rock is really unstable.
It looks like they're rock climbing with cables just to
get down. In their search. Theyve had the National Guard

(44:34):
helicopters and they're looking for this guy. There is no
trace of him or the deer at all. It's just
he's gone. And I'm not saying it's Bigfoot or anything,
but it is an area. I have had multiple sidings
up there, and I do have the other report of
Bigfoot trying to take a deer from another guy. So
I wouldn't rule it out. That and a week before that,
I had another hunter tell me he went up there

(44:55):
at six am and had a giant mountain lion just
jump down on the cliff down. So there is a
note up in Esticada saying watch out, there's a big
cat up here. But I don't. I don't know. I
think a cat if you know, So, I don't know.
I hope they find the guy, hopefully he's alive. But
I'm just saying there's there's mysterious stuff going on. There's
another guy, it was up in Colton that's been missing.

(45:19):
I'm trying to remember his name, but he's yeah, up
in the Colton Malaala forest. He was up there looking
for deer sheds and they still haven't found him, experienced woodsman,
and they just found his truck up there. And that
was a couple of years ago. And I found out
about that because one of the local people told me, Yeah,
like I was gonna call missing for one one and

(45:40):
get a hold of David Politis, but uh, I don't.
I don't think the guy's sister ended up doing that,
but still never found that person.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yeah, the first one you mentioned, well, you you sent
it actually to me pretty pretty quick after it it
was out there, and then I've been, I've been and
keeping tabs on it because yeah, as you said, I mean,
it's an area where we both get a lot of
reports from and I think I even read I've read

(46:12):
a few interesting things. I read that it's at the
point where they're not able to continual or do a
continual active search. I believe like they you know, eventually
gets to the point where they have to pull back
a little bit. Yeah, which is really sad. I hope
they find a guy. There's so many cases like that

(46:32):
that happen, but when you hear them happen in certain
areas of places like Oregon or Washington, it really does
make you think like, okay, what is the story here?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Well, yeah, and then it's tricky with trying to give support,
like saying, hey, this is evidence that I have of
the area. It might help you in your investigation, and
not be laughed at. Because there is some comments where
I put out there to kind of help support it,
and of course, you know, people weren't taking it, so
I removed them. But there was one group that I'm
part of. It's kind of like a police group on

(47:05):
Facebook and they don't put up with any kind of
you know, online bullying there. So I left my comment
up there just saying, hey, I do have a podcast.
I just let you guys know that there is activity
up there, just to give them a heads up, just
to keep that in mind at least. And I've noticed
a lot of other people on this specific thing going
on right now this week have been commenting the same thing,

(47:26):
saying Bigfoot took him, sasquatch took him. And I want
to be really respectful and thoughtful to the family, but
I also, you know, want to support any evidence that
I have collected in the area too and just say
just you guys know there are those up there too,
but we're kind of on the fence of everyone, you know,
not really being aware that they're even they exist. And

(47:47):
this kind of falls back into these conversations I have
with people daily, and they kind of asked me these
same questions again, like why don't we have pictures, why
don't we have this, why don't we have that? And
when I start answering all these questions, they kind of
stop and go wow, because they realize I've done my
research and I haven't answered to a lot of those,
you know, really basic questions that everyone usually asks.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
There's other things I've heard about other recent missing person
cases in the Pacific Northwest where Yeah, there are certain
search and rescue individuals that I think they know that, yeah,
there's big foot activity in these areas, and it's just
it's just interesting. It's hard to talk to those people
because usually they don't want to come on record. It's

(48:26):
totally understandable, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
And I mean there's definitely that going on right now
where they had the first five days where it was
only the Clackamas County Sheriffs and then the Search and
Rescue and they're and then the National Guard, and it
was I was reading the locals comments on the Skido
Locals page and they were talking about how it was
very hush hush and they weren't being giving very much

(48:51):
information and all the local hunters wanted to go in
there and help, and none of them are allowed to
go in and a lot of people were really upset
about it. Then a lot of people are saying, well,
it's because they don't want them to have another person
they have to go look for, and all this, you know,
like the generary things you would tell the public. But then,
of course I'm kind of wondering, you know, are they
possibly sitting on any other information like what you're saying

(49:13):
that that would be another reason why they wouldn't let
people in there, like they want to go look first.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean to me, it comes down to
three options. It's either, as you said, we don't want
to go looking for another person, or two, you're going
to mess up evidence out there if we have more people,
or three we're also trying to do information damage control
at the same time that we are trying to look

(49:42):
for someone, which you know, I think those are That's
three options for sure, But yeah, yeah, who knows what
what we'll find out eventually in the future. I think
it all it takes is one person to share the
right thing, or to share like the game cam photo
that you saw of the baby Bigfoot, which is incredible. Yeah,

(50:05):
my goodness, I can't imagine seeing that. But I have
a few a few areas I'm just curious if you've
heard anything about them, And one is have you heard
anything about the Hillock Burn Road area or Goat Mountain?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yes, definitely, Yeah, those those come up a lot there's
actually a lot of story. Sometimes when I'm super busy working,
sometimes I'll do, you know, twelve to fifteen haircuts a day.
I don't have time to sit down and write down
notes for everything. And there was a while there already
got them, but I know that those ones came up,
not just the people that I got my interviews and notes,

(50:46):
but there is even more outside of that where some
people said, oh yeah, back, I think twenty thirty years ago,
I found giant prints. I went up into Goat Mountain.
The guy told me, and we came down and he
found some fresh, really giant prints up on Goat Mountain.
There's been talk of military sites up on Goat Mountain,

(51:08):
secret military sites, stuff going on up there. Oh yeah,
all the locals skid area, they talk about it, some
get laughed about it. But a lot of the old
school people have kind of told me some stuff about
that area. So yeah, yeah, there's some black vanned activity
up there type stuff. Supposedly, this is what I heard.

(51:31):
I haven't allegedly, so yeah. I mean, even where I'm
sitting right now, I can actually see a couple towers,
and I don't think it's the Goat Mountain but I
can see, you know, so you know, sometimes I'll even
kind of look out there and go to see any
helicopters and stuff. But yeah, I mean, if you just
don't know, you don't know. But once people start telling

(51:51):
you kind of go oh in no way. But there's
been kind of a rich history. And then Hillockburn. Yeah,
I feel like people still go hunting up there to
this day. A few of my friends go up there
and go hunting. And I think that nineteen ninety sixth
story might have been up there. They were up there
at night and then they seen I think it was
either hill Burn or Wildcat Road. Wild Cat Road's another
really popular one which I think goes down into Eagle

(52:15):
Creek area, which had a lot of activity too, and
they seen one kind of run across the road when
they were out there partying at night, some dark figure.
So yeah, I feel like and then Colton. Once you
go past that, you have Colton. There was one story
of a man telling me he grew up in Colton
and he used to visit this older man's house as

(52:36):
a child, and the older man was telling him that
he was actually feeding the bigfoots over there.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, so and that story that was kind of a
hard story for me to get. He didn't want to
do a podcast or anything, but it was that was
one of the ones where it was he was kind
of shut down, but he kind of wanted to tell me.
But he kind of shut down, but you know, and
then he did want to talk about it, and I mean,
that's huge, you know, so.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
It's a big deal. Yeah. I mean half the stuff
that I hear does not get recorded and does not
get put out in places like the podcast one hundred percent,
which I'm okay with say it is. We both know
how hard it is to get someone to actually go

(53:24):
on record.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I think the biggest PTSD situation that it was pretty intense.
I had one guy I do my podcast and his
story's still up there. It's someone with the metallic box.
Oh yeah, and yeah, he had a hard time with
it afterwards and came and found me and just kind
of said, hey, I think you know they're after me.
My phone shut down, my bank cards are shut down

(53:47):
a dad, and you know, me being the tech person,
I said, here, let me see because you know, of course,
I'm like, I don't know if this is really hot.
And he shows me his phone it's like locked out,
and he got a hold of me later and said
he thinks he might have just done multiple attempts. And
I go, and I was trying to reason with him.
I go, well, what how come my phone's not, you know,
shut down? How come my bank cards aren't shut down?
But I could just tell whether it was happening to

(54:08):
him or not. You know, I don't want to tellim.
I didn't believe him. I'm just trying to be a
supportive person. But I realized how much PTSD because his
story was really intense because it was up on Larch
Mountain and he went up there and he's seen this
giant bigfoot holding this giant metallic box. And he said,
these two people came out, walked out behind the big
foot and it was just him and his friend up there,

(54:28):
and there was no cars parked in the parking lot
on the only back road was like seven miles in
another direction, so they would have had to come that way.
He said they were just dressed in like hiker like,
you know, Columbia sports wear, like light jackets. And he
said something to him about it, and the story is
more detailed on there. But did you see that figure
and they go, oh, yeah, it was a lady in

(54:50):
a fur coat, and they kind of leaned in and
kind of gave him this impression that they were going
to throw him off the cliff. And this guy, I mean,
his intensity with the story, it was very traumatic for
him and he was really worried about it. And I'm
not sure what was going on with this metallic box
or these people that were trying to convince the guy
that it was actually just a lady in a her coat,

(55:11):
but that one is pretty interesting. And anyways, Yeah, he
got a hold of me later and about the phone
and everything, and he said he got it working. But
I just tried to calm him down and I told him,
you know, it's okay. I know, I understand there's a
lot of people coming out now. There's so many people
coming out now that you'll be okay and you'll be safe.
You know a lot of us have been worried about,

(55:31):
you know, asking questions or coming forward, but I think
there's just too many of us now that at this
point it kind of is what it is, so you'll
be fine.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
And he was okay with it, Yeah, one hundred percent.
It's at the point where the analogy I use a
lot is like you keep putting stuff in the bathtub,
Eventually it's going to overflow and you can't control it.
And yeah, think we are like the UFO community's definitely there.
We are like pretty much there with all the different

(55:59):
shows and in podcasts, and then as long as people
can just keep on putting out. I think it's so
important to get the actual person recorded and telling their
own story. Which that's why I really like your channel
is because you do that. It's what I try to

(56:19):
do with mine as well. It is so important to
get that person actually recorded. So Larch was actually that
was the next place I was going to ask you about,
because Large and bull Run Mountain or no, bull Run
Well Watershed which is is close to Large Mountain has
some interesting stuff that's that's come up on the show.

(56:40):
Has bull Run come up on yours?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I think, yeah, bull Run in Sandy. I had one
guy he said he was going to reach out to
me and he just kind of ghosted me, but he
said he goes over to his friend's house somewhere in
that kind of bull Rout and Sandy. He actually showed
me the exact location on Google Maps. But he said
they hear him out there every night pretty much. And
then really close to that is a camp. I don't

(57:04):
want to say what camp because it involves younger people.
But they were out there and this younger girl, my
client's daughter, was telling me that they were out there
and they saw these really tall kind of red eyes
above this sign at a camp out in near Sandy,
and then in the morning they found like a giant
like footprint, and she just didn't even really care too

(57:26):
much about the story. That's something I thought was interesting.
She wasn't really even excited. It was just kind of like, yeah,
we saw something that last night, red eyes and big footprint.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
So it's just a it seems like in places like
like this part of Clackamas County, Oregon, in southeast Oklahoma,
it's like people there's a lot of people who are like, yeah,
we just we deal with it. Yeah, there's one other area.
I don't even have it on my map yet. Have

(57:56):
you ever gotten anything from you know, like you're taking
twenty six out to Mount Hood and you start going
through places like Mount Hood Village in Zigzag and stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Towards Mount Hood Zigzag.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah. Yeah, but like out in the woods off the road.
Have you ever gotten anything out like rhododendron stuff like
that government camp.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I don't know. I don't know that I have anything
out there quite yet. I feel like there is what
Indian Henry and then Timothy Lake. There's stuff up there.
There's one guy. Yeah, one guy was saying, is Grandma
saw one at Timothy Lake eating cuckleberries. So that's kind
of looking at the map here, So that's kind of

(58:43):
in that direction towards yeah, towards rhododendron, kind of.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Up there zigzag and I think it's Lolo pass Road. Yeah.
East Lolo Pass Road has one of the weirdest stories
I've taken on the podcast. It's the one where the
guy is uh is camping out there with his buddy,
and long story short, they get down by this creek

(59:08):
and pretty much they see a big foot that turns
into a billowing cloud, billowing black cloud, and then it
like goes across the creek. It's really weird.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I think I heard that story.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, I've heard that happen something similar to that out
in West Virginia too, So I don't know if that's
another thing where they can like shape shift in the
in the dark clouds. Who knows, But.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Is that the one where he said it was like
a panther or something like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah
that was up in the zigzag for it.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
That's right, mm hmm yeah, So definitely if you ever
hear anything out in that area, let me know. But
my goodness, Sarah, this has been a really fun conversation,
and thank you for spending some of your time chatting
about Bigfoot and what you have been privileged enough to

(01:00:06):
have people talk to you about, because it is very
cool what you do out there, and you're just you're
really a ground zero and I'm so glad that someone
with the right heart is out there to be able
to document what people are doing in a respectful way,
which is what I also try to do on the show.

(01:00:26):
But how can people reach out? Is there a way
they can reach out to you or how should they
keep up to date with the channel and if you'd
be able to share about that for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, So on YouTube you can find my YouTube channel's
Bigfoot Fades with a z fad ea Z which is
after you know, barbering doing haircut fades. So Bigfoot Fads
at gmail dot com and I'm really interested in helping
people bring their photos to life and help clean them up.
And of course I don't charge any thing like that.
I'm just trying to help people out. So that's kind

(01:01:03):
of been my support to the community. Anything I can
do there, So if anybody has anything they want help with,
I can always try. I've also been doing animations and
stuff for people just for fun. It's another great way too,
So if somebody wants to tell her story but they
don't really want to go on a podcast, instead of
me retelling it, I can create an animation to retell it,

(01:01:23):
which is kind of a fun way to show it.
So I've been using Sora too for that also.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Oh sure, yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, I was gonna tell you too. I did have
was it Henry Friendzoni that passed.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Away, Henry Franzoni passed away last year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yeah, yeah, I did have one guy that told me
he worked in the I think it was the Trojan Plant.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So I got to ask him some questions like follow
up on that one, and I was just kind of
I think Henry said that they were were they living
down in it he thought, or in the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Area he was looking into supposed tunnels under the near
area and Trojan nuclear he thought that they were down
in the tunnels. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, this guy did tell me there's tunnels there. He'd
been down in them, so I asked him if he
had seen any evidence of them or anything, and he
hadn't seen anything, but he did say there were some
pretty vast tunnels under there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
For sure, So that's really cool mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yeah, And he said that it was very secure too,
that they had. They would have people come out from
the government to test the security of it. And it
was some kind of weird story where one guy he
was like secured enough he could like jump through this
fence or something. It was a weird story. Yeah, So
there was some interesting stuff with that that area over there,

(01:02:49):
for sure. And then timber oregan. That was another story
I had to where a guy had heard vocals where
it sounded like they were speaking in Russian and when
he went out there, he said that he just heard
them and it sounded like they were building something with
like giant logs, and they were talking to each other
and he just felt instantly sick, like a pain in

(01:03:10):
his back or stomach, like potentially like an infrasound like
Taipa took over him. So that was another And that's
pretty close to that kind of Trojan area, so kind
of rainier Timber Oregon.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Interesting. Well, Sarah, you know I always have an eye
out for a new episode from from your show. Look
at that Siri just activated, said Sarah, not Siri, dude,
the phone being weird. But but thank you so much
for coming on the show, and it'll be fun to

(01:03:49):
see what you get into in the future. I hope
that you're able to continue documenting bigfoot interactions out there
in the Pacific Northwest, and we'll have to maybe check
in with you sometime in the future. But thank you
so much for coming on the show today.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
All right, thank you, Deremijah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
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(01:05:12):
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