Investigating New Zealand’s Forbidden Forests Uncovers Hair-Raising Bigfoot Encounters!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bigfa Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've
got the privilege of talking to mister Mark Koppel today.
Mark is all the way over there in New Zealand.
He is a I guess you could say a paranormal investigator,

(00:42):
but also a lot of his research has kind of
gone over into the Bigfoot related field as well. So
some really interesting things to talk about today. Mark, Welcome
to the show. How are you, friend?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah? Pretty good, pretty hero rising experience tonight. I almost
didn't make it to the interview this morning, so I'm
glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about that for a minute, because
you were just telling me that off air, and and literally,
I mean there's you really should not be here what
you just experienced it. It was pretty intense.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I went to my typical area where I go
in the wild. Now, cell phone doesn't doesn't work, you know,
in certain parts, it just doesn't work. And so unless
you've got a GPS beacon to you know, signal satellite
to get help, you're going to have to rescue yourself.
I fortunately, I had a knife on me. I was

(01:41):
actually going across a zip line that I made across
the creek go into this you know remote It was
like kind of like a moat this creek. So you know,
I've set up a zip line to go over about
about three four months ago. I went there yesterday and
I had this weird feeling like I don't feel good
about this, But you know, I was on a time crunch,

(02:04):
was trying to get across there before nightfall, and I
made a big mistake. There was too much slack in
the rope. Plus I had a big pack on. So
I went onto this rope and then I got stuck
in the middle, and then I was getting pulled downwards
because gravity. My pack's really heavy. I was getting pulled
downwards and I couldn't move myself down. Plus I've got

(02:25):
back issues, which means that my lower back was kind
of giving out, and I was almost passing out, and
I was hung up there by myself. So the only
way I could get free, I had this thought. I
had a knife in my vest. I had to pull
my knife and try to swing myself into a small

(02:47):
tree that was close by. Otherwise would have dropped about
twenty plus feet. So I quickly cut through this rope
that was about two thousand kilogram large strength on it.
So I had to cut through, and I fell into
this tree, fortunately, this other tree, fortunately, and so I

(03:08):
kind of ended up really bad.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Oh my goodness, Mark here that it is extremely lucky,
uh that you were able to get through that really
with no injury. It seems.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, just just pretty spoke, that's all, you know, just
uh uh, just realized, got to be really careful out there.
I preferably have someone with you when.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
When you go out in these areas. You know, we
we may I know We're gonna have to start, uh
foundationally for myself because I'll say, hey, a lot of
the people listening are from the US when we think
of New Zealand, we're thinking of like Lord of the
Rings films, like that's what we know about New Zealand.
So when you go out, when you're going out to

(03:53):
this area where you almost had this thing happened yesterday,
how remote were you Well.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I mean, it wasn't too far from society, but it
wasn't like you know, you know, being out in the
middle of the mountains, in the middle of I mean,
it was a remote area, but it wasn't so far.
But my celphone didn't work, so even if I tried
to use it, it wouldn't have worked where I was.
So I go, this is my research area number two,

(04:23):
which I go to. We've had rock stride next to me,
sometimes UFOs going over the forest canopy moving very fast.
A lot of weird stuff has happened, recording very strange
voices out there. I've been really wanting answers to what

(04:45):
I've experienced in the past.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, that's that's really interesting. So it sounds like what
I'm picking up is that in New Zealand as well,
you have areas of high strangeness, even kind of similar
to how we have them in the US. And certain
areas might come up later on in the interview especially,

(05:09):
but yeah, things thrown at you. That sounds familiar. That
sounds like something we do deal with over here, where
you know, researchers or witnesses will be out in certain
areas and they'll have rocks thrown at them, usually in
bigfoot related areas. So are you seeing that you guys
also have bigfoot over there in New Zealand as well.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, tomorrow's shocking discovery. I spent many years in America
coming back to New Zealand with stuff happened back here.
Now there's a connected that's gonna walk a rouge which
you probably would have witness followed me around out now
New Zealand. Now, I had no idea growing up here
that there was legends from the Mallori people who landed

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here in New Zealand about eight hundred years ago. They
had legends of these hairy giants that were incredibly strong.
They are terrified of. There were areas of where they
would not go, you know, cross creeks, there certain mountainous
areas that would avoid because of according to some of
the legends. Now they didn't they didn't have, you know,

(06:16):
the ability to write they just passed everything on through
carving and song and dance and old traditions. But many
of the legends that they talked about in these stories
were quite reflective of Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, I mean that is so eye opening for myself.
You know, we were fortunate enough to have an interview
that was all about Australia a few weeks ago, and
that is eye opening as well. But to hear that
similar things are happening in New Zealand is amazing. Is
there a name that we should be calling it for

(06:58):
New Zealand as opposed to big or Sasquatsch.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well, the data see it would call them the moy hoos,
the rapper wise, the matos, the male roles. There's several names,
just like you know around the world, there's hundreds of
not thousands of names or these these hairy giants found
across the globe. I really shocked to discover the legends

(07:26):
here and the other weird stuff that was going on.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So I will a moyos correct?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Okay, So when you get these reports of my moyhos
in New Zealand, have you found that they tend to
be more towards having paranormal aspects along with them, or
are they more where it seems like there's like maybe
some undiscovered animal out there, where people are seeing some

(08:00):
kind of primate.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, there seems to be a bit of both. I mean,
there's a lot of what's considered something physically biologically here.
People see a physical creature sometimes described with reddish eyes,
that have very powerful lungs that let out growls, incredibly strong,

(08:23):
incredibly intelligent, outperform us in every way, particularly out there
in the wild, in these remote areas. You know, these
the descriptions often fit descriptions of like the yahwees as
a Susquatch or the armistices. These descriptions fit almost identically

(08:46):
descriptions of the other book puts in other places.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Gotcha, I was surprised that, you know, when we heard
from Australia, there's multiple different types of Yawi's and they
look differently. And over here in America we also have,
you know, kind of different types of regional bigfoot. I
think some of them maybe have a more Neanderthal look,

(09:13):
some of them have maybe a more Orangutan look. Have
you found that over there in New Zealand in different
parts of the country, there are different looks to these,
mohos Well.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
I did hear from a man that worked in the
Waypu forest in Northland, a very old forest. A man
that worked for the Department of Conservation. It was actually
on a job with a worker fellow worker in this
you know, off maintaining some sort of track. Now, he

(09:49):
described something that was very hairy, but slender, slender, not
not bulky like the Paddy description that you know, the
famous Gimblin footage. You know, this was something center. Now.
They are described as being from about six foot tall

(10:09):
up to around twelve feet tall. There are various descriptions, however,
they seem to be kind of general, you know, about
the same very hairy. I don't quite hear so much
about really small ones or dog men. We only got
one report of dog men here down towards Wellington Way.

(10:31):
But yeah, mostly you know, described as something that's very hairy,
reddish to black black fur. My my feeling is from
my experiences myself, is that they are a type of
people who are cutely aware of us. They're a cutely

(10:54):
aware and what cameras are, what what what we do?
Even now?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Tensions okay, so extremely interesting when you say they seem
to be aware of cameras, that reminds me of how
a lot of individuals over here we will think that
they are maybe even aware of like IR in game cameras.
Is that kind of what you're referring to.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yes, definitely, and I'll use them for a cameras quite
a bit, particularly not time.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Gotcha? Have there been so we mentioned, you know, the
Patterson Gimlin footage a few a minute or so ago.
Have there been any successful photographs or videos captured in
New Zealand as of yet?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Not so much bookfoot wise. However, I did put out
a documentary. This one took me ten years to mike. Now,
towards ended my documentary, I tacked somebody into this what
I call researchery number one. I'm very hard to reach area.
It's a MACHETI only kind of area where weird stuff

(12:12):
had happened. Now in when I was actually taking a
series of photos where weird stuff had been happening, and
one are my shots up on this very steep, slippery slope.
There's something up there that has a chronical head, typical
bigfoot shape. And I tried I went back to actually

(12:33):
try to debunk. It actually took my drone there and
I flew up the slope. Weeks later, or was it
months later, I went back to try to recreate that shot.
I couldn't. Then I actually climbed down the slight very carefully.
I have slept out in that area too, But this
is why I was beginning those footprints. All the weird

(12:55):
stuff was going on there, and I was trying to
forget what the heck was going on in the early days.
But I so I suspect that I may have got
one in one of my photographs.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh absolutely, For there'll be a lot of people listening
to this audio only, and I'll have links in the
show notes as well. But so the name of your
documentary is it? Is it the X rated Files?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yes? From skin Walker? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Perfect, just be awesome, very good. You mentioned that there
seems to be an intelligence, and then I think you
mentioned as well knowing intention, which that those can lead
to very interesting conversations over here. Can you think of

(13:49):
any times when there's been intelligence shown or or the
Moyjos have been able to to a sense what a
person's intention is as they go out into the area.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, I can't really say that for other people other
than my own experiences myself. I'll give you an example.
Now this is actually in the documentary. I did gifting,
like what some people do. Sometimes I'll give them fruit
and stuff in a certain area. Now, I went back
one time. I was absolutely shocked to find a dead

(14:32):
wild pig laid right next to where I do gifting,
freshly killed, I still glassy, what appears to be an
incision on the hind of its back, bloodless incision. Sitting there,
freshly killed. It looked like they had gifted me. There's

(14:57):
other weird stuff that happened like I. I would complain
and say, oh, it doesn't look like they were here today.
Did something would throw a rock and hit my boots,
or or because it's so wet here it rains all
the time, it's very hard to find a dry stick.
Sometimes I'll do stupid things like bang a tree with
a stick, but it's hard to find a dry stick. Well,

(15:18):
one time, I said, oh, I wish, I wish I
could find you a good stick to bang a tree.
I go back there another time, and then there's this
this really good dry stick just laid up against the fence,
just like deliberately placed there stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
That is always extremely interesting, man, that finding that pig there.
That sounds extremely close to a lot of things we
deal out out here with, like almost cattle cattle mutilations
where you know there's there's lack of blood. That's very

(16:00):
strange to hear that in other country as well. Have
you ever tried going out to one of your areas
and being like, hey, if there's talking directly to the
area that you're in, and have you had any responses
that way?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Oh? Yes, okay, and quite shockingly, when I say shocking,
going into the area, very hard to get into, very slippery.
I sometimes I'll do a call to them, like a
whoop kind of call. Well, what happened is they actually
whooped back to me. They pull on a tree branch

(16:38):
and then something with a very deep set of lungs
a grown like a grown response. I wore a GoPro
camera plus a separate In the early days of GoPros,
the sound recording was crap, but visuals the sound, So
I'll do wear a separate body mic and I upgraded

(16:59):
my MIC's But anyway, so whatever it was pulled back
on a branch and groaned. Now if you Listen carefully
to the footage the audio on that you can hear
this grown responding to me. This is where I'm finding
these footprints. Strange structures. I found. They also like to mimic.

(17:20):
They like to mimic human language, and I recorded it.
Now this is snowboard in recent years. This is snowboard.
I'm now recording howling, strange howling that doesn't sound like
anything that I can identify. I had a wildlife professional,
a park ranger, local park ranger who listened to that,

(17:42):
and he hears something similar in the Commandal Ranges on
the Commental Peninsula in the North Island East coast heard
this howling. He went there with some workmates to go
do curry tree seat harvesting that means climbing up these
very high trees using ropes. Anyway, he said that he

(18:04):
heard these this howling out there that he couldn't explain
that it wasn't like anything I've heard, almost like a
like a siren, but without without the sound going down
like going and I've heard that. I recorded some hours
of whatever's going on, had stones drawn me along with
these strange sounds. Look, one time I heard a digitally

(18:27):
do I mean mike camera picked up the sound of
a digitallydo what the sound of a digitallydo doing out
in the push in an area where there's no public tracks,
in a very well dangerous area where I nearly died yesterday,
in a very dangerous area to go to some kind
of highly intelligent interaction going on that as it's something

(18:50):
coming from another dimension. Whatever's going on is acutely aware
of us and our reasons for being out there. Now,
they don't like a lot of people. Now, I recorded
a number of messages I use very powerful I use
mics similar to this. This is one of my many
parabot mics. Now, what separates me from a lot of

(19:11):
researchers is I do. I use high powered mics, and
it's really paid off. I've been able to record very
strange messages, something with very big lungs out there, and
you could hear some of these samples in some of
my videos on my channel.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
So that sounds so you're almost capturing kind of like
EVPs on the paranormal side. Is that kind of what
you're referring to when you're capturing language?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Both I'm getting both, I'm getting stuff I'm hearing disembodied
voices and also EVP related that your ears don't hear
at the time, but get picked up. Now, my MIC's
the power the professional mics. I use a shielded from
EMF and a ref electro bank medic frequency and also

(20:03):
radio frequency. There shielded, it ain't picking up radio, it's
picking up something. Sometimes they say things that are really strange.
One of the messages I picked up out there says
humans kill them and they give themselves a name. Sometimes
I'll call my name something worth a very big set

(20:26):
of lungs. It don't Some of these voices don't sound
like us nor wildlife. It is really shocking stuff, folks.
It's I'm really glad that I'm recording good audio because
if I hadn't, I wouldn't know. You know, at least
when you record something, you can go over it and

(20:46):
perhaps see if you can debunk it. For something, was
it a hiker or you know, was it something that
was explainable? But many times the stuff that I record
just you can't explain it, not in prosaic terms.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Wow, that's that's very shocking. The when you hear your
name called, so are you hearing this with your own ears?
In real time or is it it's recorded and you
hear it later.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Both. Sometimes I'll actually hear I won't. I'll have a
hard time understanding what they're saying, but my my MIC's
will pick them up what they're saying. And it's really
shocking when it's your own name. And sometimes they say
things that are not permitted on broadcast. One of the

(21:39):
voices said, we're not going to kill you, Mark, You're
coming out. Humans kill as in my people are very strange.
Some of the voices of a kind of birdlike. Some
are really like you, you imagine a bigfoot speaking. Some
of them are very deep voices. Some of them have
a quality that is beyond on the dynamics of human speech,

(22:02):
very powerful that can echo. The voices can echo in
the mountains, very very powerful voices, elongated the vocal ranges.
Just to me is amazing.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Can you There was the first phrase you said, where
it We're not going to kill you Mark, But and
then there was something else and I didn't quite catch it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
One of the voices I record out this is you
come and out. So I also do instrumental transcommunication, which
separates me from just about everybody that does this kind
of thing, at least you know with Sasquat's research. I
use electronics using Furuday radio blocking matire around my radios.

(22:47):
I have a theory that and something very strange happened
that's connected to what I'm talking about right now. But anyway,
I use Ferde radio blocking material to block you know,
radio signals. I don't want radios. I suspect that some
of these beings can use our ele chronics to get

(23:08):
messages through. Now. The reason why I say this is
some two years after returning from well after going to
Skinwalker Ranch where I had my first sasquatch encounter back
in twenty thirteen. In twenty fifteen, after traveling halfway across
the world, I was doing a paranormal investigation in Auckland,

(23:29):
City of all places. I'm using a sandy in packed
radio with this material around it. A very strange voice
comes through. It says something about accepting the bigfoot people
big people, and then it repeats. Now at the time
I couldn't quite understand what it was saying. It's something,

(23:51):
and it kept repeating, and it was like nothing you
would hear on the radio, completely opposite, very hard to explain.
And what I suspected. I got followed from America all
the way to the South Pacific where where this was
started happening in the wild. And I was like, now

(24:13):
when stuff happened to me in America. Now, I've had
a very strange life, a number of very strange things.
I study the woo to the boo, to the food.
So I study. You know, I've got a fourteen style background.
So I and my family got basically chased out of
a house by politicist from Ola in the eighties. So

(24:36):
I have become very interested. I've come across some very
scary things in my life, some entities that can do
physical harm. There is stuff now you mentioned EVPs. Yes,
there's stuff that can come across from other dimensions. Now
my question is is well, the stuff that seems to
be quite physical, does it have the ability to cross dimensions?

(25:00):
Is it it's a dimensional? Does it have the ability
to come through like like we might describe a ghost.
And now the reason why I say this is when
I was going to my area, one of my first
areas that I went to when I came back to
New Zone back in twenty fifteen, I was going walking
along this this world track I was actually looking in

(25:22):
an old gold historical area, overgrown, lots of very native
bush around there. I heard something walking through the bush, bipedal,
and I was taking a leak, and I was like,
shouldn't be anybody out here. I hear this walking and
I was like, oh, I'm going to be caught with
my zip down, you know. I was like, oh my,

(25:44):
you know, well, something walks right up to me. I
could not see it. It was right on the edge
of this ravine. So I was like, what the is it?
A ghost? Is it? You know? I've had many ghosts experiences.
I've seen all apparitions, sometimes with other people. Now I

(26:06):
had this strange feeling that I had to go into
this ravine and I didn't want it because I knew
it was really dangerous getting in there. It's a machete
only area. So I went down there. That's when I
started finding footprints similar to this. Now, this is one
of the small casts that I am so so anyway,

(26:27):
but some of them were a lot bigger. Now, I
noticed as we talked about the sound aspect, so I
find these footprints. Now, it rains a lot here. There's
a lot of dead fall on the top soil. So
to find prince is very hard. So you have to
be in the right area. You had to be in
like a creek area where there's the mud the soft

(26:50):
ground is exposed. Where I've found these footprints. I found
the strange X structures with I'll shoved two broken sticks
into a creek. And it's in area. Now some people
might say, oh, it's gonna be kids. You know, it's
gonna be kid. Well this area as now is it
hard to get to? There's cuddy grass, there's BlackBerry. Uh,

(27:17):
there's prickles. You could rip your feet up very easily
out there. Who is walking around in an area now
western is we have soft feet, you know. But anyway,
so I'd find these strange structures and I'm like, I'm
kind of forget what that And it seemed like something
would mimic me out there as well, or throw stuff,

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and that horrible weird feeling of being washed well when
you in the middle of nowhere but just getting watched
by something. And I needed answers, and I slowly just
put pieces of the dig saw together, and I realized
that the MARII talked about these giants and that they
were deathly afraid of in the wild. They even name

(28:00):
some of the areas after them. The a poke mot Role,
which means the hells of the Hairyman, a place in
the South Island of New Zealand. You know we talked about,
you know, in New Zealand, the place of the Lord
of the Rings. Well, you know that's you know, that's fantasy.
But how are There's other things that are going on

(28:21):
that ain't quite so much fiction. There's something else going
on and includes wildlife professionals, plat rangers, people with a
serious scientific background. Now, how did they get here? This
is one of the questions that people ask me is Okay,
you're all the way in the south with the how

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on earth did they get there? Well, that's a really
valid question. Well, now, while I was making this documentary,
I went to the Mount moyhow which is actually one
of the locations these giants are supposed to be. I
went there to shoot b roll of this wild mountain.
Now this is my theory. When I was there to

(29:04):
shoot with my DSL, I was just doing handheld footage.
I got to see a giant silver sphere right by
the mountain I locked. I was like, that's a that's
a wild mountain. I mean that shouldn't be up there.
There's nothing manufactured up there that shouldn't be up there.
Is it a reflection? This scene faded right out in

(29:26):
front of my eyes. I couldn't get my bloody camera
fast enough to get it. It was like one of those situations,
like all I can do is talk about. However, when
I did further footage, I picked up these smallest sources
moving like Mark III, very fast. One of them does
a media flip. Now. I fly drones too, these wind

(29:47):
drones moving far too fast. If you blink, you miss them.
They're moving that quick. However, I suspect the same mountain
as a mountain of what they call the fairy people
and the giants, the pat pere and the muijos. Well,
I suspect that they were placed here the theory of

(30:11):
pam spermia, that just like Westerners when they first came
down here to New Zealand, they bought with them possums
from Australia, non native creatures got over here. I suspect
that either something placed them here unnaturally or in some

(30:31):
other way. But I suspected that you know this, We
also talked about the Yawi right in Australia. You know,
Australia's big Foot, which is you know, you know, it's
about a two hour flight across the Tasman Sea to
Australia from here, So we are very isolated. So I
suspect that that they were placed here. Wow, that's according

(30:53):
to what I saw.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So so very interesting. It just opens your eyes. One
quick question I wanted to ask before we consine. So
there are no there are no primates in New Zealand
or any creatures that would even come close to being

(31:17):
this at all.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Right, we have no bears, we have no monkeys. There
was a report, a cover story, I call it nineteen
twenty four according to Taranaki Daily News. I believe was
in nineteen fifty two. There was a story about two
hunters that same mountain. I was just telling you about
where I saw. That's fair, that famous mountain. Two hunters

(31:39):
reported seeing a giant on this mountain. And so anyway,
there was a cover story saying that, oh, there was
a gorilla mascot that escaped a ship off the Bay
of Yarro there not far away from there of a
escape rilla mascot. Now, you know, thinking about gorillas. Grillas,

(32:05):
they can't swim. Now, it would be more likely that
a baboon could have escaped now. Also another thing about gorillas,
if we want to talk about, you know, chimps and
stuff like that, their feet are not like our feet.
Their feet have opposing digits. They're very, very good at climbing. Basically,

(32:25):
they have four sets of hands. They can climb up trees. Now,
the prints that have found here and sometimes other people
find Prince giant footprints here. Rex Gilroy, who just recently
passed away cryptosologis from Australia author. He also reported coming
over here I think it was in the mid nineteen nineties,

(32:46):
found giant footprints fossilied footprints here in the Crown a
Happy Gorge area. There have been other people who have
come across giant footprints. I've heard from others who found
giant footprints here. Their foot prints don't look like gorilla footprints.
They do not look like chimp footprints. They look like
a larger version of ours, except some of them are

(33:10):
really large. Now, one of the footprints that I measured
was about thirty seven centimeters. Sorry, I forget what that
is in inches of hand polities to those in America,
so that over time there's been reports. Now, you know,
so if some people try to basically wash away people's

(33:32):
sightings by saying, oh, what was escaped gorilla? Now, Gorilla's
only lived for about thirty to forty years, So that
siding back in nineteen fifty two, Well, there were sightings
way before that and also after that. Now, if you
type in moy how Giants sightings or whatever on Google,

(33:52):
you will find press reader gives a number of samples
of sightings of the years all the way up to
about nineties. And he's you know hikers, hunters, people, you know, tourists. Now,
I got a report that same mountain that I talked
about where I saw those UFOs or that UFO, and

(34:14):
then I caught those other ones. Straight after I got
reports from that same mountain. There was a man that
contacted me, a fireman who was from Spain. He was
here on a holiday. He was up this three thousand
foot mountain, one thousand meters mountain, Mount moy How. This
is the legendary mountain, wild mountain. Some people got there,

(34:35):
they have nothing, but then other people have stuff. He's
up there. The summit's actually off limits but anyway, so
the mari used to care they did up there. But anyway,
he's there, God his He's just there by himself. He says,
he's getting ready to set up his tent to sleep
on the summit. Overnight, he hears the sound of something

(34:59):
bipedal bi pedal footsteps moving in the bush close to him. Now.
At first he said he thought it was a whapp
of te deer, but he said, that doesn't that sounds
more bipedal. Then what happens is a series of rocks
start getting thrown at him. And this just wasn't Peeble's folks.

(35:20):
This was heavy rocks and I'm talking fourteen kilogram a
series of whatever was throwing those rocks should be in
the Olympics. He according to him and his report, he
said there was a series of rocks that got thrown
at him that got close and closer, and he said
that the final one that was thrown at him was

(35:44):
about fourteen kilograms and was thrown from about sixty feet
away or twenty meters away and landed very close to him.
He was terrified. He fled, left his gear, fled the mountain.
I was also contacted well, I spoke to a man
I suspect as a scientist along with three companions who

(36:06):
went up that same mountain back in the seventies. They
went up there to sleep up there. I don't know
exactly what they were doing up there, but they slept
about halfway up. They said, at about one o'clock in
the morning, they heard this howl up there that they
couldn't explain. They were absolutely terrified. They said. They left

(36:27):
at pace. Now I tried to interview them. They didn't
want anything to do with it. They had this cognitive dissonance.
They didn't want anything any more to do with it.
All I knew is they tried to identify that with
their analytical minds. They couldn't explain it. So anyway, so
there's a lot of stories like that. My estimation in

(36:50):
our current age right now, I've heard from dozens of
people with sightings who will contact me through Facebook. There's
on my inestimation, there must be hundreds, if not more,
people who've had experiences out in the world here that
because of the ridicule factor, they don't want to talk

(37:11):
about this sighting. They all made fun of. Now the
reason why the rticull factor. There's a guy here called
Lee Hart. He's a comedian. He did his own show.
He went to America and made fun of people at
a bigfoot convention. So that's the kind of public kind
of humor that they have here. You know, they really
make fun of people. Now. I had a woman, three

(37:35):
girls actually not far from where I go, who saw
who went down to a treehouse out in the bush
at the back of this property up in the White
Techer Rangers. This was about two thousand and seven. They
go down to this treehouse, going down, you know, girls
about ten years about three of them. Well, they encountered
this thing down there that was about six feet high,

(37:58):
completely hairy. Red eye growled at them. One of them
was freak out. I don't know why I should pick
up a piece of wood, throws it at it. The
saint growls and starts making its way towards them. I
have no doubt that if this being wanted to take them,

(38:20):
it could have easily taken them, let alone an adult.
So there's a lot of stories like that here in
this country, but you will not hear about them in
modern media except for me. Stupid me. I painted a
big target on myself in this country because well, I
don't care very much. But anyway, so this I do

(38:40):
have some articles and use it on the Herald Radio
New Zealand. I do have some articles done about my
research here and also this documentary.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Really, what it sounds like is if people are wanting
to hear more of these encounters, the best resource is
what you're putting out, I mean like your YouTube channel
or documentary. And you said some articles as well, right.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yes, yeah, there looking at pre seventies, around nineteen seventies earlier,
there are some accounts that you can read through press
rate adult Colm. I think it is just toping moy
how it's fascinating. I mean the real question is how
did they get here? I mean, yeah, the Australia Sasquatch,

(39:27):
North America on the South Pacific Way, one of the
most isolated countries in the world Island Country.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Absolutely, Oh my goodness, it's it's so many, so many
questions that you could go into so many rabbit holes
from there. But I would really want to make sure
that we are able to talk about so how was it,
you know, what did you do over at Skinwalker Ranch?
And more importantly, like you had a big foot encounter

(39:56):
over there? There's not many documented big Foot encounters at Skinwalker.
I believe there's one in a book from a long
time ago, and there's like a portal involved. But I
would love to hear what you experienced over there.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, what led me to there? I had a tic
tac ufo siding in the desert. I nearly crashed my car.
I had this FILLI to pull over on the highway
outside now soon Nevada. I had a siding there, a
daytime siding of this craft. From that day forward, in
early January twenty thirteen, it turned my world upside down.

(40:31):
I needed answers, and I'm just very quickly passing through.
I learned about skin Walker Ranch and George Knapp and
the NIDS, the National Institute for Discovery Science study. Robert
Bigelow had paid a lot of his own money, using
a team of highly educated scientists across the spectrum the

(40:52):
study of what was going on, the cattle mutilations, things
that looked like Bigfoot. It wasn't stuff that just happened
on the prom but also outside. Now. I went there
just to figure out, well, why did I see this,
this this tictac ufo thing. I thought, well, that is
a legendary. I went there, you had to invite it

(41:13):
on the property. It's guarded twenty four to seven. That
thing is like the area one of the paranormal I
mean portal's been seen opening up. Even a couple of
scientists saw this yellowish a hole open up on the
field at night. One of them had night vision gar
probably familiar with the story. One of them is up

(41:34):
on the ridge line watching with his night vision. You
can see this, this huge creature comes through this hole
into this field. There's all kinds of wet stuff that
took place there. And now I knew I had to
go there for answers because that was, you know, one
of the most haunted places in America. And it wasn't

(41:57):
just there, it was also Fort de Shane. I talked
to some of the locals there when I went there.
One I interviewed Larry Cispoocht tribal leader, a spiritual leader
there where they saw weird stuff sometimes giant footprints in
the area. Anyway, so I went there. The first night,

(42:17):
I went to Southern Vantage, which is about a mile
or so south of the property. I had at nighttime,
I had all my cameras set up. The wind was
so strong, was shaking the car and so I was
outside in it. I had these strange lights that approached me,
and the colored lights that will do a ninety degree

(42:38):
turning in front of my face. Light lighting up my
face came really close. They went against the gusty wind. Now,
insects can't handle that kind of wind. So anyway, I
was like, can't be his fireflies because I mean they
went right against it. So the second night, I went

(42:59):
up to this veins location where locals sometimes go called
it's called Ufo Hill. Now it overlooks the skies above
skin Walker Ridge. You can't see the ranch directly, however,
you can see the the skies above the property over there.
I went up there for UFOs. Let's just face it.
I went there for UFOs. Skinwalker Runch is one of

(43:21):
those places that you go there you can plan for something,
but something else can happen. You know, you may not
have an experience, but I was one of those people.
Because of my background and my experiences, I wondered if
I was going to be like a magnet for this stuff.
So anyway, so I went up with my girlfriend up
on Ufo Hill. There sat and pitched block darkness up

(43:42):
on this hill, a rocky hill overlooking the area there,
and I had my laptop, had my camera set up.
I went there to record UFOs so we hear the
strange creature sound there. I don't know what the heck
it was. I got recorder on my audio. Then there
was a sound of like what sounded like an explosion.

(44:04):
I thought it was my badgy pack on one of
my devices that had blown up. I was looking checking
my gear. It was really loud. It was like a
little bomb going off. So I was looking. I couldn't
figure out what it was because all my gear seemed
to work. Now, going back over that footage a while after,
I realized it was an explosion. It was a rock

(44:28):
something through a rock right next to us. Now it
was pitch blackout there. Now what happened when we were there,
We had a tribal police officer pulled up because my
car was packed further down towards the road there, a
tribal police officer pulls up, pulls his car up and

(44:49):
checks out. It starts taking pictures of my car, and
you know, I had to be really careful because I'm like, oh,
I don't want to spook him, so I said hello, hello.
You know, he couldn't see me because it because you know,
people you know, trigger happy, you know. But anyway, so
this tribal police officer was there. I said, look, what
are you doing out here? And you know with sky watching?

(45:09):
I just said, we're sky watching, not sky watching anyway.
So he says, just be careful out here. There's real
weird stuff that goes on out here, you know. And
I should have asked him. I should have asked him, well,
tell me more, you know, I should have. But anyway,
I felt like we're pushing out luck this sherry anyway,
So that was something. Now, I didn't have a proactive

(45:33):
interest in the sub subject of sasquatch at that time.
It wasn't until I I two years later I went
returned to my home country after some twenty years living
in America. Going back to his going to the world,
I suspect that I was followed across the world. All
this weird stuff started happening. I nearly died. I had

(45:53):
this shadow creature thing came right up to me. When
I should have died. I had to medication in direct
that should have killed me. The shadow thing came right
up to me thrust something in my heart, which the
ambulance people were surprised is still alive. I had a
lot of weird stuff happened, so anyway, it's snowballed into
all these weird messages and recording. When people listen to it,

(46:17):
they have no frame of reverence. I get a deer
in the headlight lock. That's what I get. Now. A
lot of stuff has happened, and I suspect that, you know,
George Napp has talked about the piggyback effect or the
stalk or the piggyback effect of people who visit areas.
It is quite nine amongst panel investigators that you can

(46:41):
be followed from an area. So I suspect also with sasquatch,
we're talking about sasquatch, that they get to know you.
They get to know you, especially if you keep returning
to an area. You can build a relationship with them.
And I don't have to go too far. They will
interact with me. Now in the documentary, Actually, I've had

(47:02):
stones swamping across the world. When I say, you know
in America and also here in New Zealand. So pick
them up on camera. So I go frame by frame,
you can see now. I tried to replicate that throw.
I went down to the area during the day whatever
through that stone and a really good throwing arm. It's
really accurate. Now. I've taken people with me occasionally, some

(47:26):
people have never had experience like this before. Something will
come up close to us at nighttime and start clacking
stones together what I would describe stone clacking sounds. One
time we had a rock throwing a big bang right
next to us. I had a group of about sex
or five people. They're sitting in this location, this wild location, right,

(47:50):
really died yesterday, and it will affect other people too.
Sometimes you'll hear strange voices as well. So I knew
in the early days I had to record. My goal
was to record these voices.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Have you ever experienced in these same places? Let me
think batteries suddenly not working anymore, anything like that.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, So that is also associated with the paranormal, Like
you can go on investigations and all of a sudden,
you know you've checked your battery, everything's charged up. Stuff
will fail. There's skinwalker, right, I went there. I flew
a drone up there to get some al shots. Well,
it was an mix four hundred It was before the

(48:49):
head GPS guided drones. Well, this thing very strangely, I
flew it up completely. I was only about one hundred
or so feet away from me. Completely lost control, like
something blocked the radio signal and it went and crashed.
So I've been out there and I've had battery packs drained,

(49:11):
completely drained. So are they the ghosts of Bigfoot? You know?
You could say, you know, areas? Are they the ghost
of soldiers of back you know, hauntings and that? Are
they ghosts of former inhabitants? You could say, well are they?
Are they deceased Bigfoot? You know? Are they at the
astor versions of Bigfoot? You know? I have to think

(49:33):
of a lot of things to try and try to
find answers. You know, we have a theory, you know.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Oh absolutely so so as wild that if you cut
into Bigfoot after you went back to New Zealand, that
that is pretty cool. Do you ever feel like I
ever wish you could come back here to check out
places like the Pacific Northwest for Bigfoot activity? Do you

(50:00):
ever have that desire to maybe make another trip over here?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Well, I'd love to. I don't really make money of
what I do it's anything. You lose money when you
do this, particularly in this country. Yeah, sure, I would love.
I'd love to explore. I have to go to different places.
At least here I don't have to worry about snakes
or beers or coyones or mountain wines, cougars, you know what.

(50:26):
It doesn't have animals. The geography is very steep, slippery.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
It makes up for in that absolutely. You've mentioned a
few areas in New Zealand where there's a ton of activity.
Are these areas also known for missing people as well?
Is that something that you deal with in your country too.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Well, there's an area not too far from where I
am where there's been a number of people who've gone
completely missing, neverhood of it ever again. A place called Piaha,
which actually borders the Tasman Sea. People you know, surfing spot,
people go there, they go on this this track higher

(51:12):
up towards the wild area. People go missing up there,
never heard of be heard of again. And we just
actually was another lady that just went missing. So some people,
you know, wonder what is their connection. There were stories
of for Mari that that sometimes that people would be taken.

(51:35):
There's even stories of some of these beings being cannibal
as well. There's the putter what they call the ferry
people that look more like us, but they look different
to Mari talked about taking people sometimes quickly through the air.
Very very strange stuff as this serial color operating there.

(51:59):
That's never been caught, quite possible. But as a researcher
going up there, nothing's tried to take me or harm me.
Scare experiences, yes, going out there. When you're in your
tent and you hear the sound of a tree getting
ripped down, that's that's freaky, you know. I took a

(52:21):
picture of these being started inviting me out there. It's
really I went down the rabbit hole on the subject.
They tore down about a dozen healthy trees, some of
them that the South Pacific palm trees, thek nook nookw palms.
They're resistant to hurricane force winds. These things very strong.

(52:44):
These trees were snapped at ninety degree angles, completely snapped,
about a dozen of them. And this morning, this was
where I got the picture of what I believe is
the more you held one of the New Zealand's book,
I suspect that they did that. There was no lie marks,
no saw marks in an area, It's very hard to
get to. Now the area has you know, when the

(53:06):
trees get torn down, you get overgrown, you know, the
trees start getting you know, all the carnage from the
trees start getting overtaken by the folage.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Have you ever checked any of your areas for intense
radiation readings or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Well, I'd love to. I'd love to have some of
that scientific gear, but I've most of my focuses has
been on audio slash video. I have earlier in the
early days, I've done casting, but I carry a lot
of gear on me, including safety gear if something goes wrong.

(53:50):
So yeah, I think that would be interesting to see
if if that fluctuates, you know, all theF levels. I
do have a K two media that panel visigators used,
but I I tend to try to recall the phenomena
because it does interact with me. But that that would
be very interesting to see.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yeah, that, I think more researchers over here are starting
to look into that as well. Have there ever been
any reports that where where the witness is you know,
seeing something to the effective I heard a sound and

(54:32):
it seemed to like affect me physically like I had
my my chest was vibrating or I started feeling weird.
Anything over here we call it infrasound. I don't know.
Is that a thing that comes up over and your
area as well.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yes, somewhatness to subscribe. The sound that they produced goes
right through your chest, very powerful. I've also had foot
footfalls like big thuds, like it's weird that the power
behind it is just weird. Sometimes it's described was a

(55:10):
dom Eastward park ranger I interviewed. He described going to
areas will be like a bubble, like you walk into
a bubble where all the wildlife goes completely quiet.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Sometimes people describe that or like what I experienced too.
You know, the feeling of being washed, that that uneasy
you know, hairs stand up on the back of your
neck kind of feeling.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Okay, so you mention. So you've mentioned something a few
times where it's really interesting over here. You can't really
get any park rangers to talk, especially on record, because
they're very scared of losing their jobs. It's something where
stuff happens, but they don't want to talk to I've

(55:56):
talked to one gentleman off record. But are you saying
that the park rangers over there, they are are they're
willing to be interviewed about what they've experienced. There's not
really a you know, or we can't talk about that,
like that doesn't exist type thing.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well, I had this one contact me, Dom Eastwood, and
he contacted me. He just sometimes described would not hearing
woodknock up behind the mountains. The stone's being thrown when
they've got a tap over them, you know, being thrown horizontally,

(56:38):
not something dropping from a braw but not like seeds
or anything coming down stuff like that. So I was
very fortunate that he contacted me because he listened to
the howling that I recorded back and was an April
of twenty twenty two when I had picked up stones
being thrown, something very strong, very accurate. So he listened

(57:03):
to that. What he said, Yeah, I've heard the same thing,
not all that far from Mount moy how that area
where out in the corner of peninsula where there's a
lot of legends of these giants.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
That area, I believe that was the same area you
said that you actually can't go up to the summit
because it's like is it sacred to for ancestral reasons or.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yes, well they used to Maori used to carry they're
dead up this three thousand foot mountain and they bury
them at the top. So that's one reason it is
private properly up there. I heard of one man that
sneaked up over there and according to him said somebody
fired shotgown over their head. One of the reports I got, however,

(57:57):
that that's a very wild mountain up there. Now according
to somebody else, he reckons there's an ancient trick stone
up there. You know, this gets into forbidden archaeology, a
trick stone used for alignment. According to this man, I think,

(58:19):
what's Barry Belsford. I think it's so anyway, there's something
up there like that too. Now I have not I
have been to the footholes there. I have slept overnight
in the footholes. It's a very wild area. You know,
people sometimes die because they die if you don't go prepared.
You can die from exposure in these places.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Thank goodness. One other thing I wanted to to ask
you about in witness encounter. In witness encounters that get
reported to you, are people reporting anything, you know. Usually

(59:03):
it's referred to as telepathy or where they start hearing
communication inside their heads. Is that something that you have
come up in reports over there as well?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Well, not not a lot, not a lot. That's probably
one of the least reported that I get. It might
be because a lot of people are terrified when stuff
starts happening. The fair aspect, Now, if you are calm
and you're not having that fight or flight the adrenaline
flying through your system, I think it's your state of mind,

(59:37):
if you're calm, that you can have that kind of stuff.
But a lot of people that have these encounters experiences
are terrified. Some people don't want to go back in
the bush after that. Now I had something weird happened
after the stuff that was going on. The feelings are
being watched, the feelings are being followed, you know, the
sounds are being followed, that kind of thing. I I

(01:00:00):
heard a muttering sound out there and I felt like
whatever it was was two beings talking to each other
about me. And I said, look, I wasn't there for
too big footing or anything like that. Originally I was like, Oh,
I'm not here to harm you. I'm not here to
hurt you. Now something came through. Now this gets into

(01:00:22):
the wools, so this might be a friend to do
some people. I was in my house, something came into
my bedroom. I was laying on my bed on what
was quite wide awake. Something comes into my bedroom. I
could feel the energy come up to me, tapped my head,
shook the bed, and gave me a date to go

(01:00:42):
back there. Just basically put this date in my mind.
So that was mine speak. I went there that day.
I didn't know what the heck was going to happen,
so I'm going back into this area again. Something runs
past me through the bush like an elephant smashing through
the bush lot charging through next. I didn't get a visual,

(01:01:04):
but it was pretty freaky.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
It is incredible how many similarities there are now. And
this might be old information to some listeners, but I mean,
you've got North America, New Zealand in Australia different in
some ways, but there's some similarities in the what you

(01:01:30):
guys are experiencing and what we are experiencing and what
they are over in Australia and I know other you know,
there's the almasty in Russia as well, and in the
year and in China, and it's just very very interesting
how there's so many similarities in this phenomenon all over
the world, and hopefully someday we will get answers. But Mark,

(01:01:51):
it has been just a fascinating conversation. I just want
to say thank you so much for coming on on
the show today and for answering all my questions about,
you know, what you've got going on over there in
New Zealand which I had no idea about. Do you
mind spending a bit of time talking about how people

(01:02:13):
can you know, want watch the documentary that you've been
telling us about, and also how they can keep up
to date with your research. If you have a YouTube
channel or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Well I can see it all on Mountain of Entities
just typing into YouTube. So look me up that way.
Documentary took ten years to make. Next rat involves a
lot from skin Walker, aren't you. I think I've titled
Bigfoot UFO documentary I it got released in late twenty

(01:02:50):
twenty three. How about the following year I did it
up putting it up on YouTube for people to see.
So watch all the way through the in folks, because
you will hear those very strange voices out there. I
take someone with me towards the end, of the documentary.
There's a radio show that I go in and with
ask some questions, good questions. I take somebody with me

(01:03:12):
who's never experienced this stuff out there, who's familiar with
the folklore, and you can see what happens when I
take somebody with whether we find footprints. There's other stuff
that goes on. You can so it gets documented on
video and on audio along with this, which I believe
is possibly one of the moy Hel's. The New Zealands bigfoots.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Fascinating all on there, Mark, I'm sure there'll be some
people from New Zealand listening to this. If there are,
and they do have experiences they'd like to report to you,
is there a way that they can reach out to
you to share what they've encountered in New Zealand as well?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Well? They can either get hold of me through Facebook
just look me up. There's very few people with my
name all they could just go through my YouTube channel.
I read the comments and quite often I respond, look,
I just had a man earlier this year down Mary Mary.
Him and his wife saw a big flour hot of

(01:04:14):
forestry ride driving to Napier. When they pulled over here,
they can just contact me through Facebook or through my
YouTube channel the best ways.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Fantastic. Well, Mark Copple, thank you so much for coming
on again, and you know, definitely keep us in the
loop if things continue to happen down there in New Zealand.
We would love to hear about it sometime in the future,
and I'm sure we'll definitely I'll be following along with

(01:04:46):
things you continue to put out. But thanks so much, Mark.
I appreciate you coming on today.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Thank you for having me Jeremy, I much appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to see something
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

(01:05:19):
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense,
if you're in the logging industry, on a remote oil field,
or a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something

(01:05:40):
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're
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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

(01:06:01):
anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't,
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to
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