Researcher Uncovers Bigfoot Evidence in Tennessee’s Cumberland Plateau That Changes Everything!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
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(00:20):
These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
just might change the way you see the woods forever.
So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've
got the privilege of talking to mister Randy Hutchings again.
It's been a few years Randy since we last talked,
but welcome back to the show. How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Thanks for having me back?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Man Man, I was looking it up and I think
it was way back in episode number three fifty three,
which was more than two years ago, and a lot
has happened on the podcast since then. And just a
few words about yourself, Randy. You know you're the organizer
of the Tennessee wild Man Con. Yes, sir, awesome. We

(01:03):
were talking before we started recording that's in its fourth
year already. We'll probably be talking about that later on
the show, and also we'll be talking a little bit
about a new event you've got coming out in April
of next year, twenty twenty six, so we'll chat about
that as well. But the main reason that I wanted
you on the show today is to talk about your

(01:24):
new book and just talk about Bigfoot down there in Tennessee.
And the name of that book is Bear Mountain Bigfoot,
the Case for Sasquatch on the Southern Cumberland Plateau. That's it,
which is fantastic and I'm a big fan of it.
Is great. There's not I'm trying to think. I don't
think there's many books about Bigfoot for that part of Tennessee.

(01:45):
Yours might be the only one.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't think there are besides this one, not the
specific region at least.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And it's good. So you know, in case people haven't
they haven't listened to the first episode, which I would
probably recommend people definitely go check that out as well
for the new For the new ones that are just
meeting you for the first time, was there a certain
incident that really introduced you and pushed you over the

(02:18):
edge when it comes to this big foot stuff, so
you go to the not just one hundred percent, but
one hundred and ten percent. Yeah, this is real.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
The first encounter I ever happened, I ever had back
in nineteen ninety seven, we had me and my cousin
were at a remote abandoned rock corry and we had
something vocalized from on top of the cliffs surrounding this
lake we were at making this moo moo sort of sound,

(02:50):
and we thought it was a high hunter or something,
you know, maybe missing with us at the time, and
kind of made it jokingly, tried to make the make
the sound back at it, and for our our time
doing this, we saw a three hundred plus pound boulder
come flying off this cliff and splashing into the lake

(03:11):
about sixty feet from us. That I didn't see what
did it? Now to you know, I didn't, I didn't
see that you know that it was a big foot
that did it. But after I got on the line
and did a little check in with the BFROS and
got interviewed by a researcher there, it kind of just
the pieces, you know, fit together like you would have

(03:31):
to one of one thing that happened when during that
instant incident was my cousin actually asked me, He's like,
you would have to have thumbs to do that right,
to throw that rock, And so just the pieces kind
of just fell together after I talked to that researcher,
and uh, that would solidify though, you know, yeah, they're
out there to me watching that that boulder fly like

(03:53):
I did.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You've really had some incredible things happened to you over
the years. And and how how many years have you
been a researcher in the bigfoot subjects.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Now going on twenty six?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I think twenty six, absolutely incredible, And you've been over
the years. You've been involved in different organizations in the past, correct.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yes, yes, several, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
And that's everything from is it BFO.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Tomorrow, GCBRO group called the Blue and Gray. I was
a founding member of a group that was around for
about four years called the Sasquatch Research Initiative, several several groups.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Gotcha, is the GCBRO even around anymore? Because their website
is offline. I don't know if you notice, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I've not talked to I've not talked to the guys
down there for about a year over a year.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Now, so wow, okay, yeah, I can't get through to them.
So Wayback Machine is still there for us, thankfully, because
that website's great. What was your motivation and getting this
book out, Randy?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Partially, Like you mentioned earlier, there's really I live in
what I consider to be one of the biggest hotspots
of Tennessee, but.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
You don't find any.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Like you look at the the the Bigfoot siding maps
and you look at the the bf ro O and
there's just a big vacant spot in my area. Uh,
just a big vacant spot. And so I was like,
you know, I felt kind of after the years of
doing and the research I've done this area and just
a dozens and dozens of people I've talked to, uh,

(05:31):
it didn't feel righted, like they weren't getting their stories
out there.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
So that's really kind of why I decided just to
go ahead and make it, you know, to write the book,
because it's it's about this whole region. Uh. I've become
Southern Cumberland Plateau region.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Absolutely, and I'm glad you did, because before I read
the book, you know, I was thinking about our previous
interview and I was like, I know, stuff has happened
around here, but then I didn't hear a lot. But
then I read the book and it's an incredible just
compilation of all these reports that you've taken over the years.

(06:06):
And I had no idea about how many other things
have happened over the years besides what you've experienced. But
just so that everyone's on the same page, can you
take a minute to kind of explain what the geographic
area really is that's called the Southern Cumberland Plateau. What

(06:27):
area of Tennessee that entails.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Sure, if you if you look at Tennessee's kind of
divided up into what they call it three sections, which
is East, Middle, and West Tennessee's on the border of
Middle and East Tennessee, you will see topographically this big
chunk of mountain that just goes from Kentucky all the
way down to Alabama and part a little sliver of

(06:51):
northern Georgia. And that whole cross section that sliver down there,
that mountain is part of the Cumberland Mountains. But that's
the region there is called the Southern Cumberland Plateau because
mainly because it's it's kind of flat on the top
not entirely flat, but it's it's it's got a very
Once you get up there on a road and stuff,

(07:11):
you'll you'll see how it's it's very flatten and uh,
not a lot of hills, not a lot of topography
up there.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Absolutely how high up to those mountains get. Elevation wise, I.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Think the elevation of the plateau is about eighteen hundred feet.
It's not crazy high. But considering like from the from
the Tennessee Valley compared to the the plateau there, the
plateau has winters that are that are very very similar
to the same kind of winters that the southern Peninsula

(07:45):
of Michigan has because the elevation where the Tennessee Valley
has very very mild winters by.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Comparison, gotcha, is there anything about this area that just
makes it perfect or really good for to be an
area where bigfoot encounters would happen.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
There are more caves in this region than any other
area of North America except for possibly the Northwest. A
section of the Northwest territories of Canada is believed to
be have more karst topography than this place. This area does.
But aside from that, we have over fifteen thousand caves
in this area of the southern Cumebland Plateau alone. Like,

(08:28):
we have a five county region that people talk about
that a lot of spilunkers brag about that there's more
caves in that five county region than there are in
the rest of the East Coast combined.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
My goodness, that is just I mean that just it's
hard to think about. That's that's a lot of caves.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's like sweat cheese up here.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
And you think about the stuff that could be hiding
in those even probably even other things besides Bigfoot, but
we're sticking to Bigfoot for this. But oh man, I
don't know if you've ever seen The Descent. Yikes, that's
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
My son, my oldest son, the first time he ever
went went caving. The night before, he said, can we
watch a caving movie? So I turned on The Descent
and let him watch that, which probably was not a
good idea because we got to the cave and he
was just like, what was that?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
What was that? What was that? Not good?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, that's a great movie, though it's wild. It's a wild,
wild one.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
It freaked me out and it was in the daytime.
Is there an account that you were able to share
in Bear Mountain Bigfoot that you're like, I'm so glad
this is able to finally get out there in the
open and that the rest of the world is aware.
Were there any highlights that you were able to share
that really come to mind?

Speaker 3 (09:51):
One that I really really like, I felt privileged to
have heard was this. There's an elderly gentleman named mister McBride,
and I got to visit with him. He he's lived
up on the on the Plateau's entire life. He was
eighty two at the time that I took the tale
from him, and he basically explained how his uncle back

(10:14):
in the twenties, for over a week, was trailed by
a female bigfoot in the woods, and that at one
point this bigfoot actually motioned, you know, put its arm
out and motion, you know, the kind of the the
come to me kind of motion. And his uncle, he
was talking about that, his uncle was very, very convinced

(10:39):
that this this bigfoot was sweet on him. And I
found that that I don't know, you don't come across
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know, uh, yeah, yeah, It's it's very rare. And
I was when I read that, I was like, oh man,
that's that's really interesting. I think I've heard it maybe once.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Are here several instances of males of male bigfoot trying
to like mess with females, Yeah, but I've never I
don't know of any other story off the top of
my head of a female bigfoot trying to do the
same to.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
A male exactly. And and that's that's why it was
is very interesting. Another one that I thought it really
took me back, uh when I read it was the
Hills the Hills Creek attack.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yes, yeah, that happened back in the sixties.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
And so yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay, So that was there was We talked to the
nephew of the of the lady that this happened to
uh in the story in the story, and basically there
was It was this uh gentleman's aunt, his uncle, and
the uncle's soon to be wife. It was a girlfriend
at the town. But they were riding horses in the

(11:58):
Hills Creek area of Tennessee above what's called Hill's Creek Spring.
It's a big, huge spring puts out just hundreds of
thousands of gallons of water a day. And they were
they were they were trekking on horses and the trails
above this this uh spring area, And as they were
going up this hill, they basically said that this large

(12:19):
monkey like thing comes jumping out of a tree above
uh the ant and lands on her and the horse
with such force that it takes the horse to the ground,
and he begins pummeling the lady h with with with
his fists in this you know, aggressive fashion. And by

(12:40):
the time they get the horses turned around to see
what's going on, this thing has jumped up and is
running off and back up into the woods. And the
woman had just a mental breakdown from what we were
you know, told from this instance, like she wouldn't go
she wouldn't go horse riding anymore, she wouldn't go hiking
up there where she was very outdoorsy before the she

(13:00):
wouldn't go open that area at all anymore.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
My goodness, Is this a place that you have investigated
yourself as well?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, big that the Hills Creek area actually
funnels into a hollow called the Drock Creek Golf area.
And I personally have have had several instances that happened
up in Drough Creek Golf.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Wow, And would you say that this account from the
sixties of I mean, probably the most aggressive attack that
I've ever heard on this podcast. I was thinking about
as I was reading it. I was like, I've never
seen anything that even comes close to this. Is that
an outlier for this area or have you ever or
have you heard things that are similar with other aggressive reports.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I have spoken to several people that have had aggressive
encounters in Drock Creek Golf in that region, but nothing
to the degree of actually being attacked to that degree. Now,
black trees being pushed down while they're camping as like
kind of they took that a threat, you know, an
intimidation display, but not not not being directly you know,

(14:09):
attacked in that matte fashion.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Now, it's it really is wild stuff on this Cumberland
Southern Cumberland Plateau area. Do you find that there's patterns
in the reports that you get from witnesses where you know, okay,
so this one, here's a white one, here's another white one.
Do they all look similar or do some of them

(14:33):
maybe look more ape like and some look more Neanderthal.
So it's across the board.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
We've we've actually I would say it's across the board.
From the descriptions we've had, But what are you talking
about with individuals and correlations. There is an an area
up there that's about six and a half miles about
six and a half miles square on the Highway eight.
We would call that the Sasquatch Highway because of all

(14:58):
the activity going on up there, but on Highway eight,
and it seems like all of these houses are sharing
the same individual that's window peaking. And the reason that
they we believe it's the same individual is they said
that they've seen a gentlemanly gray swath of hair that

(15:19):
comes off of his brow. And this has been like,
these are people that are miles apart on the highway
down there, have no idea that their neighbors are are
describing the same you know, literally the same gray swath
of hair.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's that's the Atticus Bigfoot, right, yeah, right, yeah. That
comes up in the book and it's a it's a
fascinating read. I mean, listeners, you really do need to
get this book because you know, we're kind of just
skimming the surface here with a few things, but it
is very cool. You go into how some of those

(15:59):
in the vials have had interactions with Atticus, and I
believe there's involvement of Tibetan singing bowls and all sorts
of interesting factors in play. It's a great, great read
a location that and I can't remember if it came

(16:20):
up the first time, but it came up a few
times in this book, which I thought was very interesting.
It's White Buffalo Mountain. Yes, would you what's the weirdest
thing you've experienced or heard of from White Buffalo Mountain?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Me personally, and this isn't in the book. The weirdest
thing I've experienced personally up on that mountain. And I
this has happened to myself and two other people now individually,
like as separate times, completely completely separate times. It's like
we have been gifted lost Atom's back. At one point,

(17:01):
I used to walk around with a prospecting hammer on
me at all times. UH to take it because we
have a lot of fossils in this region and it's
an easy way to get fossils out of out of
rock and stuff. I lost my my prospecting hammer up
on White Buffalo one time, and weeks went by. I'm
coming down a different part of White Buffalo on a

(17:24):
different trail. There's my hammer right in the middle of
the trail. I still to this day have absolutely no
way of explaining that, you know, was it was a
big foot that did it? Uh, there's there's you talk
we talked to earlier about other stuff in caves. There's

(17:45):
a lot of legends of little people on that specific
mountain too, So it's like, you know, did something gifted
back My friend though, had he lost a a survival
knife on that mountain, and he lost it on top
of the mountain. We know right the area that he
lost it, but we couldn't find it. We spent forty
five minutes at one point one day backtracking trying to

(18:06):
find this guy's survival knife. It was a gift from
his sister. And as we're ascending several weeks later, we
stop on this log that's across the trail, and we're
going up a different trail. We stop on this log.
We have about a twenty minute little conversation between us,
just shooting you know, proverbial, you know, and he looks

(18:30):
down at his feet and there's his knife sitting at
his feet, So that that's there's there's weird, weird stuff
on that mountain, specifically on that mountain, I actually have
gotten to talk to a Yuki elder named uh mister Ironhouse,
and mister Ironhouse was telling me that in his people's traditions,

(18:54):
they're there, they got they got absorbed by the Cherokee Nation,
basically the yuk nation did. In their traditions. White Buffalo
Mountain is considered a sacred mountain, and then it's a
mountain of doorways, as he put it. And when I
ask him to explain what he meant by doorways, I'm like,
do you mean all the caves that are on the mountain.
He's like, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about portals. And

(19:15):
I'm like okay, and he's like, yeah, there's certain times
a year doorways will open up on the mountain. And
I'm like, well, what happens if you go through the doorways?
And he's like, it depends on the kind of person
you are and where you end up.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Oh. Man, So wow, that's a wild place up there.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
That is really intense. Have you ever experienced anything up
there where like you're you're you know, some people will
report they're walking along they feel electricity or something out
of the ordinary. Things change it gets really quiet. Is
there anything like that ever up there? For you?

Speaker 3 (19:52):
The strangest thing that I've had happen to me on
a lot Buffalo is I got zapped or what they
call zapped. And but I'm pretty sure that was you know,
sas watch behavior that happened. So I'm not sure what
they do when they zap you, if it's infra sound
or whatever it is. But but uh, that that zapped me.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
So when is that?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
When it hit me, it felt like all the energy
came out of my body like just at once, and
I literally had to sit.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Down and take a nap on the mountain. Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
The researcher guy was with like was freaked out because
we were having wood knocks happen around us when this happened. Uh,
he was like, for forty five minutes, I'm expecting him
to come after me, you know, because you're laid up
in a ball out.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh that's that is one that's scary dudes. So yeah,
make sure I get it right. So wood knocks everywhere,
and all of a sudden, you're like time to take
a nap. It sounds like was it in the in
the fetal position or just kind of pretty much Yeah,
I just.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Rolled like laid down and rolled up and that was it.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
How did you get out of that? Did it just
like leave all of a sudden or I just woke up.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, I just woke up and was and was like whoa.
And even when I woke up though, I felt completely drained.
H I I've never felt anything like that out in
the woods any other place.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see. To look up like
US US government geological maps, you can look up like
I've been looking up like magnetic anomalies and see if
that's something where it occurs in that mountain area.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, there actually is a well known magnetic anomaly up
on the plateau called the I think it's called the
mid Crystal gravity high H. There used to be a
the Cumberland Plateau Observatory seism Seismological Observatory was up on
the mountain for for several years doing seismological tests. They
were actually monitoring nuclear your tests and Russia up there.

(22:03):
But they found that gravity high, which is supposed to
be some sort of weird electromagnetic effect that's up on
the mountain that goes up to five thousand feet up
above the plateau.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
But that is that is extremely interesting because I mean
you start looking into that, and then you start looking
into where the big foot encounters are reported, and I
think there could be some correlation. I mean, for example,
you've got like the Cascade Mountains of Oregon, Washington, tons
of reports, but also some weird magnetic anomalies out there

(22:39):
as well. So it just it sounds like it sounds
like a fascinating area, but one that you probably wouldn't
want to take lightly going up to White Buffalo Mountain,
especially if it's you know, by by the tribes in
the area, it's it's regarded as a as a sacred area.

(22:59):
You want to definitely treat it with respect.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I would think, yeah, I've uh, I have. I have
nothing but respect for that mountain. There's been twice I've
tried to ascend that mountain in August and I got
sun sun sick both times, and I literally took it
personally like the mountain was like, no, you're You're not
allowed here on August. And to this day, I do
not try to go up that mountain in August.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I have.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Hmmm. Oh man, that that's uh, that that is something
definitely that that makes you makes you think twice. Uh,
and being aware of the of the places you go to.
This also, this area is an area where do you
ever experience, besides Bigfoot activity, any any high strangeness events

(23:47):
in the woods as well.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I've heard stories my entire life from locals about weird
stuff up on up on that mountain. Uh, you know, lights,
I mean even I've been told a UFO story, you know,
of a big black triangle flying over that mountain. But uh,
but as for like you know, personally, have I experienced
other than the bigfoot stuff and the being zapped up

(24:12):
there and the stuff you know, reappearing that I don't
know how it reappeared. Uh, That's pretty much my experiences
up there on the mountain.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
M hm. Do you have a I think how I
want to I want to ask this based on your
years of research and talking to people that have had
activity and having interactions yourself, do you have any thoughts
about what you might think Bigfoot is in this particular area.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
What I think they are personally? And this is I
went into this. I'm not gonna lie. I went into this.
When we first found our hotspot, I was very very
devoutly of the you know, intelligent cryptid ape camp. You know,
it was a flesh and blood, really clever ape that,
for whatever reason, we just haven't discovered yet.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I do not. I no longer believe that.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I believe, based off of what I have experienced myself,
especially in our our main research area, that these are
some sort of like the Native Americans said, there's some
sort of human tribe. They're they're they're they're a cousin
species to us, or you know, maybe as far removed
as us as Neanderthal is, but they're they're related to

(25:38):
us somehow. They're they're they're as intelligent as we are.
I think based off just reactions we've had. Yeah, I
think they're they're closer to us than we feel comfortable admitting.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Was there a certain event that happened that made you
make that switch from one if you point to the other?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Mostly my third sighting involved seeing a juvenile and and
when I saw that juvenile, I was going through Mountain
Laurel really really just tons of Mountain Laurel. And when
I saw it, it was up under a root ball,
and at first I thought it was a hole in
the ground because it was so dark.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And then it shifted and when it shifted, I could
tell that it was it went like this, and it
was shifting from looking at me to tucking its its
its jaw down onto its show it's it's a chest
kind of similar to the way a kid does whenever
they're in trouble. That that like, you know, like they're
trying to hide to not to not be in trouble.

(26:44):
And Jeremiah, that thing did not look like a monkey.
It looked like a kid. It looked like a black skinned,
black haired kid. And it affected me so much that
when I got home and my wife, you know, prided

(27:06):
out of me what I saw, Like I broke down
into tears, like it really affected me deeply, I mean
as a father.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Like just.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
My wife said said, you know, what did you think
was going to happen if you kept going up there?
You know what, what do you think you were going
to see? And I always was like of the opinion,
you know, I'm going to see like something dug behind
a tree, or I'm going to see maybe something hop poke,
you know, it's head up, or you know, something like that.
I'm not going to see a kid looking like it's
scared and trying to hide from me.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
And so that.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
That really changed the way that I felt I've went
about this, because now it's like, I don't feel like
I'm dealing with a bunch of a pot of apes.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I'm dealing with a family. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I remember, I remember us having that conversation and the
first time we talked, and even back then, I could
tell it extremely affected you. And you talk about it
in your book too, and and and you know a person,
a person will will talk in a certain way and

(28:09):
they'll write in a certain way, and in both ways
you can totally tell it affected you. Probably one of
the most intense things you experienced in your life. I
would imagine, Yeah, it really was. It was. It was
wild to to listen and also to read it. Do

(28:29):
you believe there's any times where you've had any communication
in any way with with the Bigfoot that you've been
interacting with in these areas?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Oh well, I mean, if it depends if you consider
wood knocking, you know, to be communication, then more than
I I would like to admit like it. We we
we regularly get wood knocking up in our main research area,
and I to this day still do not understand why.
I don't know if it's I I I just have
this weird feeling that's just them being friendly. I don't

(29:03):
I know, this sounds lame, there's nothing deeper to it,
but like that's the way it feels. It's just like
they're like, yeah, yeah, shut up now, you know. But
there has been a couple of instances where I've had
We've heard vocalizations up there several times. One time we

(29:25):
had vocalizations with We were sitting out there for over
an hour and just it sounded like a baby, like
a human baby, started babbling, and we just look at
each other, you know, like what And right after the
baby stops babbling, some things goes Sai Saw and I

(29:49):
don't know what Sai Saw means. I don't know if
that was the name. You know, it was like shut
up if it means, shut up, if it what, But
like it was very much a reaction to this baby babble,
and I to this day, I'm convinced now that like
one of one of the females probably brought her a
little one in to look at us, and the baby

(30:10):
got bored and she was, you know, exclaiming.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Is that brought up in other in witness reports as well,
where they hear them say strange phrases or or maybe
things that can be attributed to different Native American words
or things.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I thought, most times when I talk to people, they
don't they don't generally have.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Specific words that they heard.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Okay, they're just like, you know, I heard some gobbledygook
or I heard some you know, some kind of ramble
that that sounded like language, but I couldn't make out
what it was.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Gotcha, gotcha deelers, that dealers.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I know that the SAYI saw. And like there was
another instance where we got yelled at, and we got
yelled at the word awa. I don't know what awa means,
but at the time we were we had been gifting
peaches and this one speci area and we had taken
these peaches at him. We would always take a peach
out and eat the peach where we let the peaches

(31:07):
to show them like, look, you know, they're good peaches.
They're they're they're not they're not poisoned.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Something like that.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's what was going through our heads at least, and
we had that all WA yelled at us and I uh,
I actually had a really famous author that told me
he was like, I think they were trying to tell
you I want, you know, all wah, I want.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's it's very interesting. You know. Sometimes I'm thinking of
a few times out in the Pacific Northwest that they've
captured on audio some form of maybe syllables, and then
thinking other interviews I've done. I think the word e
knock or knock has come up a few times.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Knock.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I've heard knock several times. You know.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah, is that something you've heard yourself or you've you've
heard knock.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
I've heard them, not heard them, like the vocalization knock. Yeah,
it's not a knock.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Wow, Oh my goodness. Well there you go, wild wild
wild stuff. Let's talk a little bit about you have
a great a great well. I don't know. It's a conference, right,
it's a con. Yeah, So the Tennessee wild Man Con.

(32:21):
And you're already in your fourth year, which is wild This.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Last year, our third year was it this last August,
and we had twelve hundred attendants, over twelve hundred attendants.
We've moved the can to a much bigger facility that
can handle all of the attendance and all the guests
and stuff that we have. But no it's it's gotten.
It's gotten way bigger than it was the last I'll
talk to you. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Wow that I did not know you were over twelve hundred.
That is actually that puts you up there in the
ranks with the other other guys I'm thinking of right now.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Every year we've done thus far, we've had him Kay Davis,
We've had hell Ben Holler, Jesse and Joe of Helbin Holler.
Chester Moore has been there, uh every year thus far,
and then uh we usually we usually can't have like
the the guys that are always there every year because
they're nearby and that they don't care to travel, And
then then we'll have guests from farther out like this

(33:22):
last year, our guest of honor was our Scott and
Nelson from The Sounds, the crypto linguist. He was really cool,
really really got along well with him.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Another year we had uh uh Bron moorehead as our
guest of honor.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
This last year we had Tim Coombo Baker.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, yep, yeah, we we we had all together. We
had nine nine special guest speakers, and then we had
five special guests on top of them. We're just there
to you know, to visit with you know, fans and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
So and that's that's just that doesn't include vendors, right, No.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
No, we had eighty six vendors on top of all this.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Eighty six vendors.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah. Wow, we sold that. We sold out all of
our vendor space.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And is it a lot of big foot stuff or
I know some places are like only big foot stuff,
but some places are like, okay, be bigfoot, but it
can be other stuff too. What what kind of big.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Foot and other stuff took? Like we we try to
keep the it's two floors that were using. So we
tried to keep all the all the really big foot
associated stuff on the first floor and then all the
other stuff, you know for the second floor.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Gotcha.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
We had a game company that came this year and
got a table and they were they were promoting their
crypto uh Cryptozoology Capture Bigfoot game there that that it
was the first first place that was being released like that.
We were, we were there, you know, their initial exposure
to the world, which I thought was.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Wow, that's awesome. It's like a board game. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'll have to get there. I'll get the name of
it and send.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
It to you.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah. I totally love stuff like that, So definitely definitely
pass it over. There's not too there. There's an old
antique one big footboard game from back in the seventies
or the eighties. If people can look into that, that's
an old one. It's hard to find.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
But so.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
You've got the wild Man con. But then this coming
year April twenty twenty six, you have something really cool
and you brought it up before we started, and then
in my mind I was like, oh, yeah, I've totally
heard of this, so it is actually a really cool idea.
Do you mind talking a bit about what the Tennessee

(35:53):
Cryptid Campout is going to be in April?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Start, It's going to be from April thirteenth to the
seventeenth of twenty twenty six. What we've what we kind
of did was we've got a dream team of researchers
and what we're doing is we're actually hosting it on
our primary research area that I talked about in the book.

(36:18):
And what we're doing is we're bringing in these researchers
from all over the US. Uh that you know, we've
got Jesse and Joe from Helven Holler, We've got Ronnie
LeBlanc from Expedition Bigfoot Chester more from Dark Outdoors. They're
all coming in and we're we're dropping them into our
research area with with forty attendants. We've got eight spots

(36:39):
left so far, but uh, thirty one attendants so far,
dropping them into the middle of an active Bigfoot area.
That that's that has continuing you know, activity and seeing
what we can accomplish over four days.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
So that's that's wilder than I thought because I I
didn't make then at it's in your research area. That's
a really really big deal because you know, I'm I'm
thinking there's so many guys out there that are like
they're not going to let you go into their research area.
But it's you're pretty much opening up the gates and
you're like, yeah, come on in and let's bring some

(37:16):
friends along too.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
We've been in that research area for twelve years now
and we kind of figured, you know, we're like, look,
unless you know exactly where to look, like we kind
of know where they.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Hang out in that area.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Oh, I'm not really worried about not not not hugely
about other researchers coming in and souring my area because
they've been there for over forty years that that we've
got research or we've got reports going back forty years
now in that area. In this I don't think they're
I don't think they're going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Okay, So is this Uh I can take this out too.
Is this area one then?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Okay, cool? If I need to take that out, just
let me know. No, okay cool. So it's some people
are just like very protective and and it's it takes
a while to get used to. You're very you're very
giving with your information. Randy, That's that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Well, that's one of the problems with big footing is
is no it is is that nobody wants to share
any information and.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
It is Yeah, yeah, it's going to be our potent.
Let's say we're not going to say our downfall because
that's too negative and not not fun. We'll say potential
downfall will be the not sharing information.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It's just crazy to think about. But so when when
people sign up for this, is it a thing where
you know they're they're putting their tent up and they're
there ten for a few days or what does that
look like.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
No, they have cabins.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Uh, you're gonna be You're gonna be uh put in
a cabin with another person if you if you get
a ticket, we've got actually a couple's ticket. That's actually
cheaper if you get the couple's ticket. But if you
get the couples tickets, you get your your own private cabin. Otherwise,
if you're in there saying as a single place, you're
gonna be put into a cabin with another person. But
the cabin's got beds, electricity, you're not rough in it.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Really.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Uh, that's it's kind of one of the pluses of
of where our research area is. It just so happens
to be next to a very nice group camp side.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Oh my goodness that that is like very rare for
these things, extremely rare are and people be cooking over
a fire and things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I know, we've got we've got a tavern keeper for
the whole time. For for one hundred dollars, you can
feed yourself for four days, the whole four days there
at the camp out. Uh, they'll be hippie cooking breakfast, lunch,
and dinner. If you don't want to bring if you
want to bring your own food, You're welcome to bring
your own food. I noticed some campouts don't want you

(39:52):
to bring certain kinds of you know, video recording equipment
and stuff. We don't care. Bring all the video recording
equipment you got, bring audio equipment if you got it,
If you've got thermal, if you've got this is the
time to bring it. Everybody's bringing all their good stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So this is this is an extremely rare event. I mean,
i'd almost say it's almost like a unicorn because as
you mentioned, you don't have you know, uh, there's there's
other events where if you capture stuff, let's leave it there,
you know what I'm talking about. But but you guys
are very cool in that. Yeah, if you if you

(40:28):
want to just enjoy it, or if you want to
go and like make a vlog with a video camera,
I mean that's cool too. And just the fact that man,
you're in in the field with people like Jesse and
Joe and and Ronnie, that that's very cool. That type
of access is something that you are not going to

(40:52):
get over the internet. I mean, let's let's face it,
at the end of the day, guys, you have to
get out in the field, and once you do app
things open up for you in ways that they wouldn't before,
and that's when things start to really click. And that's
when the whole be careful what you wish for kind

(41:12):
of comes into play because you never know what's gonna happen.
It's fun. I've experienced it too. My goodness, this this
is really really, really cool.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
But Jeremiah, if you could come down here man for it,
I'll I'll save you a spot.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Oh man, my goodness. It's tempting. Is it's very tempting.
It's very tempting because uh, listeners like I. So this
podcast it releases at one am the day it releases.
I would say, if you hear this, you need to
immediate okay, So do they go to a certain website

(41:49):
I'm guessing to event Bright Okay, So I'll have the
link in the show notes for this. I would say,
if you're listening to the episode right now, pause it,
go get the tickets immediately, and then come back and
finish the episode because man, eight eight tickets left and

(42:10):
we're filming November tenth. It's it's gonna be pretty tight.
So guys, make sure you immediately go and try to
get in if you can, and hopefully, I mean I
could see this being more than a more than a
one year event. What do you think.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
We've got plans for the future.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, plans for the future. That's awesome. The cool thing
about Randy is in people that have read the book
might have picked up on this. And if you've heard
the first interview we did a few years ago, you
know Randy's no stranger to doing events. I mean, you've
done other events and so this is not your first rodeo,

(42:49):
which is a big deal. I mean, Randy knows how
to make these things happen. And another plug for the
book if you want to read probably one of the
best accounts that I've ever heard, and I'm so glad
it was in the book too, What happened? What happens
when a LARPing event gets connected with bigfoot activity? It

(43:13):
is incredible and I would say, let's not say it
now because we need to have let people need to
go read it. It is such such a cool story
and just blows my mind whenever I hear it or
listen to it. But Randy, thank you so much for
coming on the show. But I want to make sure
that you were able to share everything that you would

(43:34):
wanted to share, and also if there's ways that people
can keep up to date with what you've been what
you've got going on as well.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Okay, well thanks for having me, Jeremi. I really appreciate it.
I do have another book that's coming out probably in
the next two months. I'm doing a book on the
Tennessee Pygmies, the little people graves that were found in
the eighteen hundreds, and that's going to include several, uh
because where people's come to over the years. I've got

(44:04):
over i think seven total uh sightings of little people
cryptid little people, So I've got those in the book.
But I'm working on that. But aside from that, the
I'm mainly uh focusing on the camp out in April,
making sure that's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
So that's awesome. Yeah, there's got to be a ton
of work, uh to make something like that go off
without it without a hitch. And if there's let's say,
if there's listeners that are listening down there and they're like, oh, yeah,
I've totally had something happen on the Southern Cumberland Plateau
and I've never talked to Randy and here's Randy. Is

(44:43):
there a way that they can best reach out to
you to report what happened?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Sure that you can either email me, uh email me
at Tennis Squatch It's T E N N E S
S q U A T C H at gmail dot com,
or or you can find me on the Easiest way
to get hold of me is find me on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm on Facebook.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
I get I've gotten I don't know how many reports
on Facebook since I was on Hulu like last year.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
So, oh, when were you on Hulu?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
What was that show called, uh out there Crimes of
the Paranormal? I was on episode seven, I think it
was either seven or eight. The Smoky Mountain not Mare
was the episode I was in.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I got to check that out. That sounds pretty cool.
Go go to Hulu and check out Randy on on
that show. That sounds that sounds pretty awesome because and
we didn't really really get into this, but you know
it's besides Bigfoot, You're you're also into paranormal stuff as well.
Oh yeah, yeah, so definitely check out check out that
show to get Randy's viewpoint. Will you ever come out

(45:50):
with any paranormal books?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I've been thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Okay, yeah, right, well cool cool cool cool. Well, Randy,
thank you so much for coming on. That's of luck
with Tennessee wild Man con and the Tennessee Cryptid camp
out that's coming out, and we will have to keep
in touch for what the future brings man.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thank you dude.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're
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(46:37):
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(46:58):
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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a
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or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

(47:19):
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,
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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
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