November 16, 2025 • 48 mins
In this episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron interviews Greg Lambert, a veteran BFRO (Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization) investigator from West Virginia with over 11 years of experience tracking Bigfoot sightings across Appalachia.
Greg shares his first encounter as a teenager, terrifying moments from BFRO and East Coast Expeditions, and eyewitness accounts that have baffled investigators for decades. From eye glow and wood knocks to rock throws and thermal imaging sightings, this episode dives deep into the real evidence and eyewitness reports that define the Bigfoot mystery in the mountains of West Virginia and Kentucky.
Hear exclusive stories of encounters near Monongahela National Forest, Dolly Sods, and Blackwater Falls.
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Hear exclusive stories of encounters near Monongahela National Forest, Dolly Sods, and Blackwater Falls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
These are the.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,
because today you'll hear another account that just might change
the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us,
all right, bigf the Society. You've got the privilege of
talking to mister Greg Lambert today.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Greg is an.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Individual that has had some really interesting Bigfoot experiences over
the years, and he is on the show to talk
about those today. He's from the great state of West
Virginia and he's also been a BFRO investigator for about
eleven years now. So welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Greg. How are you doing today.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Sir, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely whenever I have an individual like yourself where you
have more than a few years of expertise about the subject,
I always like to start with what was it that
first got you into the Bigfoot subjects?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
To begin with, when I was around thirteen years old,
my father and I had gone to scout our deer
stand locations. Excuse me, we rented a property at the time,
we were actually living there, and there was about one
hundred acres and it was also a Christmas tree farm,
(01:36):
and we went up above the Christmas tree area. There
were roads all over the mountains, so we had roads
we could walk, and hadn't gotten daylight yet. We went
up and I hadn't dressed warm enough, so I got
cold and I told my dad. I said, I'm going
back to the house. I'm freezing. So I started back
(01:57):
down the road and we were probably probably half a
mile up the mountain. And as I walked, I would
stop and listen, and off to my left on the ridge,
I heard footsteps and the leaves. Of course, it was
November and all the leaves were down. I couldn't really
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see anything, but I didn't make too much of it.
It stopped when I stopped, so I continued walking and
stopped again and heard footsteps just a few, but then
when I stopped, it would stop. And this continued on
until I got really scared and ran for the house,
and then I could hear it coming through the brush
(02:40):
as I was running, just breaking branches and the normal
sounds that some would make. That was big, running through
the woods and the leaves, and got to the house
that never saw anything. My dad came down later and
never had any incident at all, never saw anything. When
(03:00):
we lived at this property, we had some strange goings
on and we just attributed it to maybe the place
was haunted or we didn't know. Strange sounds, strange things
happened from time to time. We had a root cellar
that was full of potato bends that the door had
(03:21):
swollen on it and you had to really jerk hard
on the door to get it open. And I had
been in there previously, and that the evening before got
the next morning the door was open, and I knew
I had shut it and latched it and couldn't tell
if there were potatoes missing. Of course, there were hundreds
(03:41):
of potatoes in there, but just strange things like that
got me thinking. And then later on, as when the
Internet came out and people were talking about this stuff,
I was reading accounts other people had where they had
been paralleled out of the woods in the same fashion
I had. And I've talked to other witnesses as well
(04:01):
who have had that experience, and I'm like, co, okay,
so I had a bigfoot experience. That's what really got
me interested.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And was it a thing where after you had this experience,
then you were really interested in it the rest of
your life or did you take a little time off
and then maybe get back into it in later years.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I continually was interested in the subject. At first, I
thought these things are just in the Northwest, And after
the Patterson Gimmlin film came out and I never even
dreamed that Bigfoot was all over the country, much less
in West Virginia. And then the Legend of Balgi Creek
(04:48):
came out in seventy two and saw that at the
drive in and I'm like, when that hand came through
the window, that just really freaked me out. But I thought,
that is not in the Northwest, so what's up with that?
Then do a little more research on the subject, and
(05:11):
everything I could find, every article I could find, and
books would read then in search of was really cool
something you know that Leonard Bimoy had done like that
that got me even more interested in the subject, and
then lo and behold. In twenty twelve, I had found
(05:32):
the BFRO website and discovered they were having an expedition
in West Virginia. Went to the expedition. We had a
class A sighting by not just one, but probably five
or six individuals on a thermal camera, and that just
really lit the fire. After that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Gotcha, I could definitely see how that would How close
was what they had seen through the thermal to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Them, They were thinking it was probably thirty yards away
or so, And then when they went back in the
daytime and did a recreation, this thing had belly crawled
up on them and was more like fifteen ten or
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fifteen yards away, much closer than they had thought before.
Their thermal camera did not record. Our group was on
up the mountain from them, but on the same trail,
and they called us on the radio and said, can
you all get back down here? We think we have something.
(06:46):
We scatthered up our things we had just settled down,
started back down the mountain and there was a wood
knock and Russ Jones was actually leading my group, and
he said, did you hear that? It'll be gone when
they get there? They know we're coming, and sure enough,
it was like a minute or so later they called
us on the radio and said, never mind, it's gone.
(07:08):
We continued on down and talk to them though to
see what they had experienced, and of course everybody was
pretty excited.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So yeah, wow, I can only imagine that after that
then things probably really amped up for you. Were you
at the point then where you're starting to go out
on expeditions that are maybe outside the BFO, maybe private things,
or maybe going out by yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I've been out. It's spooky to go out and
by yourself. I've been out with other individuals. Monongahila for one.
I don't know if you know who he is, but
he does a lot of our sound analysis, right, I've
been out with him, but his top secret location that
was also in West Virginia. But we have a group
(07:57):
called East Coast Expeditions and that's run by Charles Kimbro
and we we're all BFRO investigators. But there it's just
a private group and we can just invite anybody, friends
or family along whoever. That's like a non paid type thing.
We do that on the side because a lot of
times they're not just enough expeditions going around that you
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can get to or they're quite a distance away.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, so that's really interesting. Have you had any significant
things happen on any of the East Coast as East
Coast expeditions?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You've been on.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
General things, calls, we've gotten answered, wood knocks, stuff like that.
I think the I don't remember if it's there. They
kind of all run together after time. I don't remember.
It was the East Coast or BFRO expedition. I had
a rock thrown at us. We were the two groups.
(09:01):
One was on an opposite trail, but these two trails
converged into one trail, and myself and two other individuals
got to this intersection where we're to meet, and we
sat down, turned our lights off, and then I sat
there and thurmed around a little bit and we played
with the bard al back and forth, called it in.
(09:24):
One of the gentlemen had a harmonica, so I told
him to police harmonica out and play a little to
see if we could attract some attention. And after he stopped,
we got a rock thrown in from behind us up
on the ridge and hit the tree in front of us,
just cracked like a shot, and that really got our attention.
(09:45):
I turned up the heel but couldn't see anything. But
that was the first really eerie, startling interaction that I've had.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Have you ever been fortunate enough to have a class
A visual sighting yourself during any of these.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I have not to this point. I'm hoping. I'm really hoping.
Now I've seen eyeshine or eyeglow. That's really strange. I
can't explain it. You know what mammals would have the
ability of bioluminescence. I have seen that something that I
(10:31):
could not explain, But as far as a class A, no,
haven't gotten that fortunate to this point. But I'm still.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Hopeful, absolutely, and I'm right there with you. So eyeglow, though,
is such an interesting thing because it is a thing
where I feel like it's maybe I'm just starting to
hear more of it on my show over the last year.
But did you notice a certain color to the eyeglow
that you were able to see?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's actually varied from like an oranges color to like
a blue white light. I was in Kentucky on an
expedition and Charles Kimbro and I were together leaving camp.
Everyone else was out of camp except for the two
people who were actually staying in camp, and as we
(11:22):
hiked out, we saw down near campsite it looked like
somebody standing looking down at a table with a headlamp on.
The light was actually shining down like they were looking
at something on their table or looking for something in
their campsite. So we called back on the radio to
(11:43):
see if anyone was still there, and they said no,
everyone was gone, so we're like, what are we seeing.
We theirmed it couldn't see anything because it was kind
of like behind brush, didn't really get a hot spot
and peach signature, but we definitely saw the light, so yeah,
(12:04):
that's it's kind of weird. I've had it happen directly
behind me when I was looking the other direction and
the person said, now turn around, there's eye shine on
the hill right behind you. And it slowly turned and
they said, oh, it's gone before I got turned around
to see it. So that's happened a couple of times.
(12:26):
I haven't been in Kentucky. I was with Nate Moyer
and I thought he was going to pass out on me,
and I said, what's wrong? I thought, the Lord, there's
a squatch ten feet behind us or something. And he said,
I shine, I shine, But as soon as I turned
around it it was gone again. But yeah, it's varied
as far as the light color goes.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Absolutely, when you had seen that eye glow, John Kentucky,
were you able to tell roughly how high off the
ground level it was?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, couldn't really tell. It was definitely not down on
the ground. It would have definitely been if it was
not a squatch, but it would have been something up
in a tree, but too far apart for like an
owl something like that. So it definitely wasn't deer eyeshine
(13:22):
or just unexplained. So you have to go with what's
the probability? What are we out here looking for? Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Absolutely, and you're more than likely going into spots where
there have been multiple things experienced and so.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Their previod spots.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And that actually was a follow up question I was
going to ask you, was how how far apart would
could you approximate that those different eye glow spheres were
or the different the two eyes that you had seen.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Sometimes with a distance, it's hard to judge, but probably
around ten inches apart.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Wow, that's definitely more than a normal humans would be
for sure. Exactly when you are when you've been out
in these expeditions, have you ever experienced any vocalizations or
sounds that would be hard to explain?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, definitely. We were on an expedition in Kentucky and
Monongahela and Charles Kimbro and I had hiked down to
a lake steep trail. There were some people there who
were camping. I think they were I believe there were
(14:48):
two tenths maybe there. These people were out, they were
sound asleep, nobody else was around, and they had me
do a whoop and a knock and on the other
side of the lake we got a response. We did
another whoop, and it was coming closer around the lake,
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So I said, what do we do if it comes
over here. We didn't really think this through, but then
it got to a point. I don't know if we
could see us, if it winded us, whatever, but it
stopped and there was no more interaction after that. But
to get a call, to get a response to I've
call you done is great, and then it actually starts
(15:36):
coming towards you is really exciting.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh yeah, that has to be just a thing that
that really gets you amped up. Has there ever been
a time when you've experienced what could be considered infrasound
in the field.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I have never experienced that. Now we've had people on
the next edition that experience that while the expedition was
going on. I believe that happened to Ron Bowles once
on an expedition we were on. Trying to think that
was Kentucky. Possibly, I think it was Kentucky. Like I say,
(16:14):
they'll run together at at some point. But yeah, I've
never experienced that. Now I have experienced the feeling of
being watched. And this was in broad daylight. This is
where we lived where I had something follow me out
of the woods. I had a little Honda XL one hundred.
When I was like fourteen, I sold grit newspapers mode
(16:37):
grass bought this motorcycle. And like I said, there were
roads all over this mountain. So I had ridden way
out along the ridge that I'd never been to before
and just stopped. It was a bright sunny afternoon and
put to kickstand down, sit there and listen and enjoyed
the scenery, and just all of a sudden got that
(17:01):
fight or flight feeling the hair on my next stood
up and the woods had just gone dead quiet, and
I just freaked and thought, I got to get out
of here right now, and I started that bike up
as fast as I could and just bolted. I've never
had that feeling since then, even on an expedition, and
(17:24):
it was strange. It was the middle of the day,
perfectly clear, calm, and just freaked out.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That is really strange, just to double check, so it
sounds like that is the one time that you could
consider that you may have felt that you're in a
situation where I'd rather not be here, and I would
if I could get out of here right now. I
would definitely get out of here right now.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't never experienced the infrasound, but definitely
got that feeling of being watched and that the fight
or flight got to go.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Besides, so let's see, the eye glow is definitely one
of those weird things. Have there ever been any other
things you've experienced while on an expedition that were hard
for you to explain, but that might not be necessarily
related to bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Lights orbs. People see those from time to time. I
spoke to a man that used to be a federal
game organ and ask him if he'd ever seen anything
in the woods that he couldn't explain. I was searching
for maybe a possible bigfoot sighting and he said, other
than lights, he'd never experienced that. I think in Kentucky
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on the one expedition we were on, there were people
seeing lights, and yet that's just straining. That's kind of
hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Absolutely, Is that something where you do that often? Try
to talk to individuals that are maybe involved with forestry
or wildlife or law enforcement to see if they have
any things to report.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, from time to time, a lot of times they're
reluctant to say anything for fear of their jobs. I
know Manonga heel Of, he uses that name to protect
himself on the line of work that he does. I
think he's starting to come out a little bit more
and more, and possibly he is going to do a
(19:43):
book here in the future. And he actually did a
chapter in Charles Kimber's book, Squatching one on one. But yeah,
most of the time people are just reluctant to say much.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. It's I have not
had much luck myself with those conversations. But have you
found that there's a way to try to start those
conversations with individuals in those fields. That works better than
maybe other ways.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Usually I'll just start out with have you ever seen
anything strange that you can't really explain? Something like that.
I know I had an individual that I don't know
and highly respect. I actually go to church with who
saw a squatch last spring as he was going to
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pick up his son from ball practice, and ask him
if he would like to do report, and he said,
I don't really want my name associated with this forever,
and I'm gonna a year it's totally anonymous. We won't
reveal your name. People are just reluctant to He told
(20:57):
me about the whole situation, but people were just reluctant
to file report. Many times I'll have people tell me
things I will file report, But generally I'll try to
start out law saying have you ever seen anything that
you couldn't really explain or something that wasn't supposed to
be there?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think that sounds like a good way to try
to handle it. Sometimes if you jump right into the
hey you've seen bigfoot people catches them off guard. Let's
just say in a way that you're yours would be
a little bit easier to get into it. Do you
have a certain leaning towards what you think Bigfoot is
(21:40):
at this point.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I think they're flesh and blood, probably a descendant of
jog Antipithecus Blackie. That's my belief. I know a lot
of people think they're interdimensional creatures. The Native Americans excuse me,
thought they had some kind of spiritual power a lot
of times, but that just could be because they didn't
(22:04):
really understand. But if they're leaving tracks, they're making sounds
you find scat, if they're doing wood knocks, tree twists,
breaking branches, I think they're a flesh and blood creature.
Obviously we've got the Patterson Gimman film and that's still
(22:24):
some of the best evidence out there. They're a physical creature,
and I think they're a Grade eight of some sort.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The way I look at it is very similar in
that it's some kind of physical creature. Because as you said, yeah,
I can leave tracks and all that good stuff. I
think there's probably some weird stuff that sciences has to
catch up with in that that kind of could explain
(22:56):
away the reports you get where it's seen doing weird stuff.
But I would say I'm pretty close to what you're
seeing as well. Do you have any reports that you've
taken over the years that really stand out for interesting
encounters in your area of West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
There was one gentleman who saw one when he was fishing,
and it was crossing the creek and it was using
a lat It was using a large walking stick. That
was unusual that you would see this thing crossing a
creek with a walking stick, like it needed the stick
(23:38):
to get across the creek, or was it carrying the
stick to use for tree knocks. That just unusual. There
was one incident of preacher who told us about two
squatches in his garden digging potatoes, and one of them
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was blonde, And he said, I didn't really want to
tell anyone because people you tell people you've seen a
bigfoot and they think you're crazy. But to tell someone
I saw too and one of them was blonde, he said,
I just didn't want to go there. But that one
really stood out too, as far as I hadn't heard
(24:23):
that much about the color variations. The wide range of
color variations, and the fact that they were stealing food
out of a.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Garden, that is some really really unique stuff. I've taken
a few reports from West Virginia over the years, and
you just you get some really specific details that you
don't really get from other parts of the country. And
for example, what you just said where he was using
(24:52):
a walking stick, that's pretty cool. It reminds me of
a report that I took from the Whites Run Road
area over by Seneca Rock, and the truck driver reported
that it had so it also had glowing eyes like
you were saying, so eye glow yellow glowing eyes, but
also had a vine across its chest too, which is
(25:17):
very strange stuff. Also, have you gotten any reports from
your area of people that have all of a sudden
become paralyzed or can't move when they're in the same
area of Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, I haven't really heard that from anyone. I'm sure
that that would breathe you and peralize you in fear
if you're not expecting to see something like that, especially
with the size of the creature. The individual I was
telling you about that saw one as he was on
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his way to pick up his son from ball practice.
Told me he said it disappeared. I said, you mean
it stepped into the woods, it went down over the bank.
He said, no, it just disappeared. I said, okay, I'm
not one to believe in portals and things like that,
so I thought, what could this possibly mean. I was
(26:20):
chatting with Russ Jones about it, and his theory was,
and I agreed with him. Your mind is seeing something
that's not supposed to be there and it just blocks
it out. You're seeing something that say, Okay, this doesn't exist.
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Is this what I'm really seeing? And you it's almost
like a lost time thing. Your mind just goes blank
and said, Okay, this is not real. That's like the
same thing about people frozen in fear. Your mind does
funny things under stress situations.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's it is very strange how the mind works. And
sometimes we forget things because if we remember. I think
if we remember them, we probably would have a hard
time dealing with reality. And I think sometimes, like you said,
this plays into the whole subject. But I also have
gotten a weird report. Do you know where Pocahontas County is?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
There was a guy I talked to where a black
He saw a black fog like form crossing the road,
which then turned into a sasquatch. And I've gotten that.
I've gotten the opposite of that out in the mount
Hood area of Oregon near a zig Zag where it
was it actually turned into a black fog and then
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went across the creek as a fog cloud would do.
But that very strange stuff. That's a thing where you know,
I listen to people's stories and make sure they're documented,
but we're not at the point yet where we have
a specimen, and so we're not able to really fully
(28:14):
study what they can actually do. And I think maybe
if we ever get to that point, then we will
be able to see, Okay, what is what is something
that can be replicated if there are some that we
can study, like Jane Goodall was studying in her lifetime,
not Bigfoot, but also like chimpanzees. But in this area
(28:38):
that you're based out of in West Virginia, are you
also encountering other things or other accounts from people that
are like, I haven't seen a Bigfoot, but I have
encountered this other weird thing, which I have no idea
what it was.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't get that so much. I know lesser Dale
has on some wow reports of things. I think one
of them was up in Canaane Valley. But yeah, I
don't really get that much from people. I pretty much
stay with the bigfoot stuff other than people saying maybe
a ghost or something like that. But no, as far
(29:15):
as that, no other cryptige really gotcha.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Do you have any advice for individuals that you know
are interested in the bigfoot subject and they're wanting to
go out and try to see if they can find
things themselves or start to do research. Do you have
any advice regarding that.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I do gifting for We have a gap year program
here where students come and spend a year and they
study the Bible and they earn college credits. It's a
beautiful location, but most of these students will come to
our church and our usually find one or two individuals
(30:01):
in the group who are interested in bigfoot, and I'll
when they graduate this program, I'll buy them a copy
of Charles Kimbro's book Squatching one oh one, and they say,
here you go. If you're interested in starting some bigfoot research,
start out with reading Charles's book and that'll help point
(30:22):
in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I think that's good advice, definitely too. Maybe not start
from scratch yourself, but to figure out what are some
good people out there like Squatching one on one where
you mentioned where you can you don't have to start
from the absolute beginning. You can get a foundation and
maybe you can also look at it in a critical eye.
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You don't have to take everything from it, but you
can learn a whole ton from it. Now, these students
are they from other countries or from over all over
the US.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Or they're from around the US? Yeah, okay, cool, cool,
And I'll get a few stories out of people there
once in a while as well.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh that's cool. So once they find out you're probably
the bigfoot guy in the church.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I would imagine, yeah, that's me.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, I get that. People find out pretty quick. And
so have you heard any interesting things from other states?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Then?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
As part of you meeting these students from around the US.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, a few things. One of them actually worked with
a tribe and would tell they would tell stories of
Native Americans. They would tell stories to these kids. But
actually I was at a doctor's appointment. This is a
funny story, and my doctor is originally from Ohio, and
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I was talking. Sometimes I'll bring up bigfoot in the
conversation or they say what do you do for hobby?
And he said, let me tell you a story. I said, Okay,
here we go. His father had actually seen a bigfoot
while he was deer hunting and didn't want to say
anything really when he got back to camp, but every
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by school thing, I'm crazy. And so he finally confided
in another individual who was running near him as well,
and he said, I saw it too. So that was
funny that he had a bigfoot story.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
That is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And sometimes you just have to put it out there
and you will be surprised at what you do find.
And I know some people they do that even just
by having like a sticker on the back of your car,
and that can that can leave some really interesting conversations
in itself. Yeah, going off of you're into this for
about eleven years, so you've probably heard a lot and
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you've seen a lot. What do you feel that the
best evidence for bigfoot existing in West Virginia is?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Oh, gosh, I would say probably the many eyewitness reports.
I know. I was out around the blackwater Falls area
one time and I had on probably had on one
of my big foot hats of one of many, and
we were in a piece of joint and I had
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a gentleman walk up to me and say, hey, I
believe it exists. He said, we saw tracks going up
over the bank when we were kayaking, and I said, oh,
you should file report, and he's like, nah, he said,
but if you're looking for him, he said, you should
go out to the dump. He said, people see him
there all the time. So I said, yeah, I think
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just eyewitness reports, you can't say that these people are
not seeing this creature all around the state.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I agree with you one hundred percent, which is why
I have spent years doing this show. I think it's
very important that stuff that is seen is documented. Like yourself,
it's also important to try to get documentation through different
places like the BFRO, so there can be actual investigators
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that go that go out and look. Have there been
any interesting investigations that you've been a part of over
the last few years with the BFRO that come to mind?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
There was. There have been some that haven't been reported
that I've tried to get reported, such as the individual
I was telling about. I had a state trooper told
me a story from up on Dalis Sades. He and
several other troopers were camping up there and they could
feel and hear something stomping around there camp and he
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said they all had their guns out and their flashlights out,
looking and calling out whatever was out there, and never
would come in where they could see it. But they
were pretty shook up about the whole situation. But and
again didn't want to file a report. It's hard at times.
I don't know why people if they just don't want to.
(35:23):
They're still afraid they're going to be ridiculed or somebody's
going to find out and might cost them their job
if somebody thinks they're mentally unstable. But it's just it's
hard to get people to file reports. And I've talked
to many individuals who've had incidents and they just don't
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want to file a report.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Why do you think it's important for individuals to get
past that fear and to be able to file what
happened something like the BFROO or even report it to
podcasts like the one we're on now.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We want to prove these things exist so we can
I don't know if they really need our protection. They're
doing pretty well on their own, but so we can
get them protected. But it develops patterns. If people are
seeing and experiencing the same things all across the country
over and over again, that helps document that. Plus the
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more we document these experiences, the more we can learn
about these things and how they live, how they survive
as humans. We're curious as well. They're curious too, but
we want to know more and more about these things,
and as people file reports, that helps us to learn
(36:52):
more about them. And I think a lot of I
think the government really has bodies. I've heard too many
stories about them being killed on military bases and whatnot,
and all of a sudden somebody shows up and the
bodies are disappear or whatever. But I think the land
usage is more probably the main reason that the government
(37:16):
won't say they exist because of what it would do
to land usage. With Darby or cuts DNA study that's
going on, maybe that will shed more light into it.
We'll get some answers. But then what do you compare
the DNA to is it I've seen it listed as
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part human other things, say a known prime eate. We
have to compare it.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
To absolutely, and I'm right there with it. And it's
almost like you need to get that evidence where an
individual can say, Okay, we saw it, and we saw
it leave do something that would have left the hair
on a fence post and then I went over to
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the fence post and I got the hair, and so
that you can say, yes, I saw and then these
this hair or whatever evidence you have is directly from
the creature. I think that would be a great thing
to do. Besides, you know, I don't know if we're
at the point where we need to have an actual
body on the slab. If we have gotten to the
(38:30):
point where people like Darby have really amazing skills for
doing DNA testing and they're really going after it, it
would be cool if we could prove it without that.
And I've also heard stories, and I've had people that
have talked to me off record and hey, we saw
this on the side of the road in Oregon and
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then it disappeared when we went back there and there
were like black SUVs. And you hear a variant of
that story every once in a while. But it's just
it's very interesting. There's a lot of things going on
behind the background that hopefully we'll come to late soon enough,
we'll see. In your years of talking to people that
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have had sightings through the BFRO.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Do you have.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Do you remember a conversation where the witness got a
really good look at what they were seeing, and they
were able to convey what that looked like to you
in a way that was very impressive.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Most of the individuals that I've had reports come to me,
they didn't really get an up close look like some
of the hunters looking through a scope. I know there's
a lot of those on the BFRO. When that comes
to mind, was I believe in Tucker County where a
guy was looking at through the scope and the general
(40:02):
consensus when this happens is it looked too human. I
was afraid to pull the trigger. It just looked human,
and I thought, what if it's someone in a suit,
and then am I going to be charged with murder?
Or what is this thing? I don't Is it fart human?
Is it a wild human? And so they wouldn't shoot it.
(40:25):
But most of the individuals that I've get reports from
and they saw it at a distance or it was
a road crossing and they didn't really get a good
look at the face.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, I would agree the conversations you hear with hunters
where they are able to look through a scope and
a man. I'm thinking of one specifically with Actually it
was on Russ Jones's show that he used to do.
And it was with Darryl Collier from down southeast Oklahoma
and area X, And it was the same type of conversation,
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like Darryl had it in its sights through the scope
and he wasn't able to squeeze the trigger because at
the end of the day he didn't know if it
was a human and he didn't want to be charged
for something. Yeah, I think that story gets repeated over
and over again.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
But yeah, that's an area I would absolutely love to
go to sometime. They get so much stuff there, it's
just wild. I was thinking that maybe that's if they
were going to harvest a bigfoot, that would probably be
where it would come from. But I think some of
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them have changed their opinion on that as well. There.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, if you're going off of the book that came
out a few years ago, because like that was their
thing for years as they were trying to get a
specimen right, and they had the whole protocol like, Okay,
if we get one, what do we do and are
we just are taking the whole thing? Are we taking parts?
And how do we get out of here safely without
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being taken out by other ones? But then I think
they switched over to trying to just get like photos,
but that I think that was actually before they had
the split in the group.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So who knows.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
There's not a lot of information that's come out from
the group after that split. Who knows what we've got
going on now down there. But Greg, this has been
a really interesting conversation. I've learned a lot more about
West Virginia and what's going on with bigfoot in there.
We don't get to talk to a lot of guys
from West Virginia, but I do appreciate you you coming
on the show, and I want to make sure that
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you were able to share everything that you had come
to the show with. Today.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I just wanted to mention about doctor Meldrum. I bought
a huge hole that just kind of leaves in that
the bigfoot community. And I spoke with him this past
year at West Rodinia Bigfoot Festival. He had been there
for several years and he was just a great guy
to talk to and so much knowledge. Just a fantastic guy,
(43:08):
just a really nice man. And we stood and talked
about the DNA study and could you get DNA from hair?
And I questioned him about legend meat science and when
that was going to come out and we chatted about
that and he was really looking forward to that coming
out soon. And yeah, just my condolence is still to
(43:29):
his family and it's just a huge loss to the
Bigfoot community.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And there have been so many individuals that have been
actually lost in this community over the last few months
in twenty twenty five. It's just a lot to deal
with it. It reminds me of there's been certain conversations
I've had over the years where it's like, what are
(43:56):
we going to do when certain people, when we lose
certain people who are going to be what we do
when it's that time to step up and to make
sure things keep moving in the community. And like, guys,
it's right now, like it is at bat like right now,
there's so many people that have moved on that wear it.
(44:17):
Make sure you're doing the right type of research, that
you're documenting things the right way, that you are talking
to the right people, and that the information gets out there,
and you know when disclosure and does come about, that
we are prepared to do the right things regarding conservation
(44:37):
or things of that nature. There's going to have to
be a ton of people that step up for sure.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
I'm on the same mindset of Russ Jones and Brad Tennon.
I want to be there when they sit. They said,
we want to be right there in the front row, saying,
I'll told you.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
That that would be something.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Good stuff I told you all these years.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, I hear you. But Greg, is there
a way that, let's say, if people want to report
something about the areas that we've been talking about today
in West Virginia, how would you recommend that they go
about doing that?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
They can go to BFRO dot net and file report
and just put my name down for an investigator. They
can contact me on Facebook under Gregory Lambert and I
will respond to that as well. But the more reports
we get the documentation on the BFRO, that just helps
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build our case.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Greg.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
It's been a pleasure talking to you, and I hope
you have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Thanks Jerrem, I appreciate you having me on. You do
the same as well.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
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all right, bigf the Society. You've got the privilege of
talking to mister Greg Lambert today.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Greg is an.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Individual that has had some really interesting Bigfoot experiences over
the years, and he is on the show to talk
about those today. He's from the great state of West
Virginia and he's also been a BFRO investigator for about
eleven years now. So welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Greg. How are you doing today.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Sir, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Absolutely whenever I have an individual like yourself where you
have more than a few years of expertise about the subject,
I always like to start with what was it that
first got you into the Bigfoot subjects?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
To begin with, when I was around thirteen years old,
my father and I had gone to scout our deer
stand locations. Excuse me, we rented a property at the time,
we were actually living there, and there was about one
hundred acres and it was also a Christmas tree farm,
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and we went up above the Christmas tree area. There
were roads all over the mountains, so we had roads
we could walk, and hadn't gotten daylight yet. We went
up and I hadn't dressed warm enough, so I got
cold and I told my dad. I said, I'm going
back to the house. I'm freezing. So I started back
(01:57):
down the road and we were probably probably half a
mile up the mountain. And as I walked, I would
stop and listen, and off to my left on the ridge,
I heard footsteps and the leaves. Of course, it was
November and all the leaves were down. I couldn't really
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see anything, but I didn't make too much of it.
It stopped when I stopped, so I continued walking and
stopped again and heard footsteps just a few, but then
when I stopped, it would stop. And this continued on
until I got really scared and ran for the house,
and then I could hear it coming through the brush
(02:40):
as I was running, just breaking branches and the normal
sounds that some would make. That was big, running through
the woods and the leaves, and got to the house
that never saw anything. My dad came down later and
never had any incident at all, never saw anything. When
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we lived at this property, we had some strange goings
on and we just attributed it to maybe the place
was haunted or we didn't know. Strange sounds, strange things
happened from time to time. We had a root cellar
that was full of potato bends that the door had
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swollen on it and you had to really jerk hard
on the door to get it open. And I had
been in there previously, and that the evening before got
the next morning the door was open, and I knew
I had shut it and latched it and couldn't tell
if there were potatoes missing. Of course, there were hundreds
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of potatoes in there, but just strange things like that
got me thinking. And then later on, as when the
Internet came out and people were talking about this stuff,
I was reading accounts other people had where they had
been paralleled out of the woods in the same fashion
I had. And I've talked to other witnesses as well
(04:01):
who have had that experience, and I'm like, co, okay,
so I had a bigfoot experience. That's what really got
me interested.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And was it a thing where after you had this experience,
then you were really interested in it the rest of
your life or did you take a little time off
and then maybe get back into it in later years.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I continually was interested in the subject. At first, I
thought these things are just in the Northwest, And after
the Patterson Gimmlin film came out and I never even
dreamed that Bigfoot was all over the country, much less
in West Virginia. And then the Legend of Balgi Creek
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came out in seventy two and saw that at the
drive in and I'm like, when that hand came through
the window, that just really freaked me out. But I thought,
that is not in the Northwest, so what's up with that?
Then do a little more research on the subject, and
(05:11):
everything I could find, every article I could find, and
books would read then in search of was really cool
something you know that Leonard Bimoy had done like that
that got me even more interested in the subject, and
then lo and behold. In twenty twelve, I had found
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the BFRO website and discovered they were having an expedition
in West Virginia. Went to the expedition. We had a
class A sighting by not just one, but probably five
or six individuals on a thermal camera, and that just
really lit the fire. After that.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Gotcha, I could definitely see how that would How close
was what they had seen through the thermal to.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Them, They were thinking it was probably thirty yards away
or so, And then when they went back in the
daytime and did a recreation, this thing had belly crawled
up on them and was more like fifteen ten or
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fifteen yards away, much closer than they had thought before.
Their thermal camera did not record. Our group was on
up the mountain from them, but on the same trail,
and they called us on the radio and said, can
you all get back down here? We think we have something.
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We scatthered up our things we had just settled down,
started back down the mountain and there was a wood
knock and Russ Jones was actually leading my group, and
he said, did you hear that? It'll be gone when
they get there? They know we're coming, and sure enough,
it was like a minute or so later they called
us on the radio and said, never mind, it's gone.
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We continued on down and talk to them though to
see what they had experienced, and of course everybody was
pretty excited.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So yeah, wow, I can only imagine that after that
then things probably really amped up for you. Were you
at the point then where you're starting to go out
on expeditions that are maybe outside the BFO, maybe private things,
or maybe going out by yourself.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I've been out. It's spooky to go out and
by yourself. I've been out with other individuals. Monongahila for one.
I don't know if you know who he is, but
he does a lot of our sound analysis, right, I've
been out with him, but his top secret location that
was also in West Virginia. But we have a group
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called East Coast Expeditions and that's run by Charles Kimbro
and we we're all BFRO investigators. But there it's just
a private group and we can just invite anybody, friends
or family along whoever. That's like a non paid type thing.
We do that on the side because a lot of
times they're not just enough expeditions going around that you
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can get to or they're quite a distance away.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, so that's really interesting. Have you had any significant
things happen on any of the East Coast as East
Coast expeditions?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
You've been on.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
General things, calls, we've gotten answered, wood knocks, stuff like that.
I think the I don't remember if it's there. They
kind of all run together after time. I don't remember.
It was the East Coast or BFRO expedition. I had
a rock thrown at us. We were the two groups.
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One was on an opposite trail, but these two trails
converged into one trail, and myself and two other individuals
got to this intersection where we're to meet, and we
sat down, turned our lights off, and then I sat
there and thurmed around a little bit and we played
with the bard al back and forth, called it in.
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One of the gentlemen had a harmonica, so I told
him to police harmonica out and play a little to
see if we could attract some attention. And after he stopped,
we got a rock thrown in from behind us up
on the ridge and hit the tree in front of us,
just cracked like a shot, and that really got our attention.
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I turned up the heel but couldn't see anything. But
that was the first really eerie, startling interaction that I've had.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Have you ever been fortunate enough to have a class
A visual sighting yourself during any of these.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I have not to this point. I'm hoping. I'm really hoping.
Now I've seen eyeshine or eyeglow. That's really strange. I
can't explain it. You know what mammals would have the
ability of bioluminescence. I have seen that something that I
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could not explain, But as far as a class A, no,
haven't gotten that fortunate to this point. But I'm still.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Hopeful, absolutely, and I'm right there with you. So eyeglow, though,
is such an interesting thing because it is a thing
where I feel like it's maybe I'm just starting to
hear more of it on my show over the last year.
But did you notice a certain color to the eyeglow
that you were able to see?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's actually varied from like an oranges color to like
a blue white light. I was in Kentucky on an
expedition and Charles Kimbro and I were together leaving camp.
Everyone else was out of camp except for the two
people who were actually staying in camp, and as we
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hiked out, we saw down near campsite it looked like
somebody standing looking down at a table with a headlamp on.
The light was actually shining down like they were looking
at something on their table or looking for something in
their campsite. So we called back on the radio to
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see if anyone was still there, and they said no,
everyone was gone, so we're like, what are we seeing.
We theirmed it couldn't see anything because it was kind
of like behind brush, didn't really get a hot spot
and peach signature, but we definitely saw the light, so yeah,
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that's it's kind of weird. I've had it happen directly
behind me when I was looking the other direction and
the person said, now turn around, there's eye shine on
the hill right behind you. And it slowly turned and
they said, oh, it's gone before I got turned around
to see it. So that's happened a couple of times.
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I haven't been in Kentucky. I was with Nate Moyer
and I thought he was going to pass out on me,
and I said, what's wrong? I thought, the Lord, there's
a squatch ten feet behind us or something. And he said,
I shine, I shine, But as soon as I turned
around it it was gone again. But yeah, it's varied
as far as the light color goes.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Absolutely, when you had seen that eye glow, John Kentucky,
were you able to tell roughly how high off the
ground level it was?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, couldn't really tell. It was definitely not down on
the ground. It would have definitely been if it was
not a squatch, but it would have been something up
in a tree, but too far apart for like an
owl something like that. So it definitely wasn't deer eyeshine
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or just unexplained. So you have to go with what's
the probability? What are we out here looking for? Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Absolutely, and you're more than likely going into spots where
there have been multiple things experienced and so.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Their previod spots.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And that actually was a follow up question I was
going to ask you, was how how far apart would
could you approximate that those different eye glow spheres were
or the different the two eyes that you had seen.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Sometimes with a distance, it's hard to judge, but probably
around ten inches apart.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Wow, that's definitely more than a normal humans would be
for sure. Exactly when you are when you've been out
in these expeditions, have you ever experienced any vocalizations or
sounds that would be hard to explain?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, definitely. We were on an expedition in Kentucky and
Monongahela and Charles Kimbro and I had hiked down to
a lake steep trail. There were some people there who
were camping. I think they were I believe there were
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two tenths maybe there. These people were out, they were
sound asleep, nobody else was around, and they had me
do a whoop and a knock and on the other
side of the lake we got a response. We did
another whoop, and it was coming closer around the lake,
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So I said, what do we do if it comes
over here. We didn't really think this through, but then
it got to a point. I don't know if we
could see us, if it winded us, whatever, but it
stopped and there was no more interaction after that. But
to get a call, to get a response to I've
call you done is great, and then it actually starts
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coming towards you is really exciting.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh yeah, that has to be just a thing that
that really gets you amped up. Has there ever been
a time when you've experienced what could be considered infrasound
in the field.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I have never experienced that. Now we've had people on
the next edition that experience that while the expedition was
going on. I believe that happened to Ron Bowles once
on an expedition we were on. Trying to think that
was Kentucky. Possibly, I think it was Kentucky. Like I say,
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they'll run together at at some point. But yeah, I've
never experienced that. Now I have experienced the feeling of
being watched. And this was in broad daylight. This is
where we lived where I had something follow me out
of the woods. I had a little Honda XL one hundred.
When I was like fourteen, I sold grit newspapers mode
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grass bought this motorcycle. And like I said, there were
roads all over this mountain. So I had ridden way
out along the ridge that I'd never been to before
and just stopped. It was a bright sunny afternoon and
put to kickstand down, sit there and listen and enjoyed
the scenery, and just all of a sudden got that
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fight or flight feeling the hair on my next stood
up and the woods had just gone dead quiet, and
I just freaked and thought, I got to get out
of here right now, and I started that bike up
as fast as I could and just bolted. I've never
had that feeling since then, even on an expedition, and
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it was strange. It was the middle of the day,
perfectly clear, calm, and just freaked out.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
That is really strange, just to double check, so it
sounds like that is the one time that you could
consider that you may have felt that you're in a
situation where I'd rather not be here, and I would
if I could get out of here right now. I
would definitely get out of here right now.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't never experienced the infrasound, but definitely
got that feeling of being watched and that the fight
or flight got to go.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Besides, so let's see, the eye glow is definitely one
of those weird things. Have there ever been any other
things you've experienced while on an expedition that were hard
for you to explain, but that might not be necessarily
related to bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Lights orbs. People see those from time to time. I
spoke to a man that used to be a federal
game organ and ask him if he'd ever seen anything
in the woods that he couldn't explain. I was searching
for maybe a possible bigfoot sighting and he said, other
than lights, he'd never experienced that. I think in Kentucky
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on the one expedition we were on, there were people
seeing lights, and yet that's just straining. That's kind of
hard to explain.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Absolutely, Is that something where you do that often? Try
to talk to individuals that are maybe involved with forestry
or wildlife or law enforcement to see if they have
any things to report.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, from time to time, a lot of times they're
reluctant to say anything for fear of their jobs. I
know Manonga heel Of, he uses that name to protect
himself on the line of work that he does. I
think he's starting to come out a little bit more
and more, and possibly he is going to do a
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book here in the future. And he actually did a
chapter in Charles Kimber's book, Squatching one on one. But yeah,
most of the time people are just reluctant to say much.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, I definitely agree with that. It's I have not
had much luck myself with those conversations. But have you
found that there's a way to try to start those
conversations with individuals in those fields. That works better than
maybe other ways.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Usually I'll just start out with have you ever seen
anything strange that you can't really explain? Something like that.
I know I had an individual that I don't know
and highly respect. I actually go to church with who
saw a squatch last spring as he was going to
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pick up his son from ball practice, and ask him
if he would like to do report, and he said,
I don't really want my name associated with this forever,
and I'm gonna a year it's totally anonymous. We won't
reveal your name. People are just reluctant to He told
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me about the whole situation, but people were just reluctant
to file report. Many times I'll have people tell me
things I will file report, But generally I'll try to
start out law saying have you ever seen anything that
you couldn't really explain or something that wasn't supposed to
be there?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think that sounds like a good way to try
to handle it. Sometimes if you jump right into the
hey you've seen bigfoot people catches them off guard. Let's
just say in a way that you're yours would be
a little bit easier to get into it. Do you
have a certain leaning towards what you think Bigfoot is
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at this point.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I think they're flesh and blood, probably a descendant of
jog Antipithecus Blackie. That's my belief. I know a lot
of people think they're interdimensional creatures. The Native Americans excuse me,
thought they had some kind of spiritual power a lot
of times, but that just could be because they didn't
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really understand. But if they're leaving tracks, they're making sounds
you find scat, if they're doing wood knocks, tree twists,
breaking branches, I think they're a flesh and blood creature.
Obviously we've got the Patterson Gimman film and that's still
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some of the best evidence out there. They're a physical creature,
and I think they're a Grade eight of some sort.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
The way I look at it is very similar in
that it's some kind of physical creature. Because as you said, yeah,
I can leave tracks and all that good stuff. I
think there's probably some weird stuff that sciences has to
catch up with in that that kind of could explain
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away the reports you get where it's seen doing weird stuff.
But I would say I'm pretty close to what you're
seeing as well. Do you have any reports that you've
taken over the years that really stand out for interesting
encounters in your area of West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
There was one gentleman who saw one when he was fishing,
and it was crossing the creek and it was using
a lat It was using a large walking stick. That
was unusual that you would see this thing crossing a
creek with a walking stick, like it needed the stick
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to get across the creek, or was it carrying the
stick to use for tree knocks. That just unusual. There
was one incident of preacher who told us about two
squatches in his garden digging potatoes, and one of them
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was blonde, And he said, I didn't really want to
tell anyone because people you tell people you've seen a
bigfoot and they think you're crazy. But to tell someone
I saw too and one of them was blonde, he said,
I just didn't want to go there. But that one
really stood out too, as far as I hadn't heard
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that much about the color variations. The wide range of
color variations, and the fact that they were stealing food
out of a.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Garden, that is some really really unique stuff. I've taken
a few reports from West Virginia over the years, and
you just you get some really specific details that you
don't really get from other parts of the country. And
for example, what you just said where he was using
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a walking stick, that's pretty cool. It reminds me of
a report that I took from the Whites Run Road
area over by Seneca Rock, and the truck driver reported
that it had so it also had glowing eyes like
you were saying, so eye glow yellow glowing eyes, but
also had a vine across its chest too, which is
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very strange stuff. Also, have you gotten any reports from
your area of people that have all of a sudden
become paralyzed or can't move when they're in the same
area of Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, I haven't really heard that from anyone. I'm sure
that that would breathe you and peralize you in fear
if you're not expecting to see something like that, especially
with the size of the creature. The individual I was
telling you about that saw one as he was on
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his way to pick up his son from ball practice.
Told me he said it disappeared. I said, you mean
it stepped into the woods, it went down over the bank.
He said, no, it just disappeared. I said, okay, I'm
not one to believe in portals and things like that,
so I thought, what could this possibly mean. I was
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chatting with Russ Jones about it, and his theory was,
and I agreed with him. Your mind is seeing something
that's not supposed to be there and it just blocks
it out. You're seeing something that say, Okay, this doesn't exist.
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Is this what I'm really seeing? And you it's almost
like a lost time thing. Your mind just goes blank
and said, Okay, this is not real. That's like the
same thing about people frozen in fear. Your mind does
funny things under stress situations.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's it is very strange how the mind works. And
sometimes we forget things because if we remember. I think
if we remember them, we probably would have a hard
time dealing with reality. And I think sometimes, like you said,
this plays into the whole subject. But I also have
gotten a weird report. Do you know where Pocahontas County is?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Oh? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
There was a guy I talked to where a black
He saw a black fog like form crossing the road,
which then turned into a sasquatch. And I've gotten that.
I've gotten the opposite of that out in the mount
Hood area of Oregon near a zig Zag where it
was it actually turned into a black fog and then
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went across the creek as a fog cloud would do.
But that very strange stuff. That's a thing where you know,
I listen to people's stories and make sure they're documented,
but we're not at the point yet where we have
a specimen, and so we're not able to really fully
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study what they can actually do. And I think maybe
if we ever get to that point, then we will
be able to see, Okay, what is what is something
that can be replicated if there are some that we
can study, like Jane Goodall was studying in her lifetime,
not Bigfoot, but also like chimpanzees. But in this area
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that you're based out of in West Virginia, are you
also encountering other things or other accounts from people that
are like, I haven't seen a Bigfoot, but I have
encountered this other weird thing, which I have no idea
what it was.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I don't get that so much. I know lesser Dale
has on some wow reports of things. I think one
of them was up in Canaane Valley. But yeah, I
don't really get that much from people. I pretty much
stay with the bigfoot stuff other than people saying maybe
a ghost or something like that. But no, as far
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as that, no other cryptige really gotcha.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Do you have any advice for individuals that you know
are interested in the bigfoot subject and they're wanting to
go out and try to see if they can find
things themselves or start to do research. Do you have
any advice regarding that.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I do gifting for We have a gap year program
here where students come and spend a year and they
study the Bible and they earn college credits. It's a
beautiful location, but most of these students will come to
our church and our usually find one or two individuals
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in the group who are interested in bigfoot, and I'll
when they graduate this program, I'll buy them a copy
of Charles Kimbro's book Squatching one oh one, and they say,
here you go. If you're interested in starting some bigfoot research,
start out with reading Charles's book and that'll help point
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in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I think that's good advice, definitely too. Maybe not start
from scratch yourself, but to figure out what are some
good people out there like Squatching one on one where
you mentioned where you can you don't have to start
from the absolute beginning. You can get a foundation and
maybe you can also look at it in a critical eye.
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You don't have to take everything from it, but you
can learn a whole ton from it. Now, these students
are they from other countries or from over all over
the US.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Or they're from around the US? Yeah, okay, cool, cool,
And I'll get a few stories out of people there
once in a while as well.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Oh that's cool. So once they find out you're probably
the bigfoot guy in the church.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I would imagine, yeah, that's me.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, I get that. People find out pretty quick. And
so have you heard any interesting things from other states?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Then?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
As part of you meeting these students from around the US.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, a few things. One of them actually worked with
a tribe and would tell they would tell stories of
Native Americans. They would tell stories to these kids. But
actually I was at a doctor's appointment. This is a
funny story, and my doctor is originally from Ohio, and
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I was talking. Sometimes I'll bring up bigfoot in the
conversation or they say what do you do for hobby?
And he said, let me tell you a story. I said, Okay,
here we go. His father had actually seen a bigfoot
while he was deer hunting and didn't want to say
anything really when he got back to camp, but every
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by school thing, I'm crazy. And so he finally confided
in another individual who was running near him as well,
and he said, I saw it too. So that was
funny that he had a bigfoot story.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
That is pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And sometimes you just have to put it out there
and you will be surprised at what you do find.
And I know some people they do that even just
by having like a sticker on the back of your car,
and that can that can leave some really interesting conversations
in itself. Yeah, going off of you're into this for
about eleven years, so you've probably heard a lot and
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you've seen a lot. What do you feel that the
best evidence for bigfoot existing in West Virginia is?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Oh, gosh, I would say probably the many eyewitness reports.
I know. I was out around the blackwater Falls area
one time and I had on probably had on one
of my big foot hats of one of many, and
we were in a piece of joint and I had
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a gentleman walk up to me and say, hey, I
believe it exists. He said, we saw tracks going up
over the bank when we were kayaking, and I said, oh,
you should file report, and he's like, nah, he said,
but if you're looking for him, he said, you should
go out to the dump. He said, people see him
there all the time. So I said, yeah, I think
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just eyewitness reports, you can't say that these people are
not seeing this creature all around the state.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I agree with you one hundred percent, which is why
I have spent years doing this show. I think it's
very important that stuff that is seen is documented. Like yourself,
it's also important to try to get documentation through different
places like the BFRO, so there can be actual investigators
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that go that go out and look. Have there been
any interesting investigations that you've been a part of over
the last few years with the BFRO that come to mind?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
There was. There have been some that haven't been reported
that I've tried to get reported, such as the individual
I was telling about. I had a state trooper told
me a story from up on Dalis Sades. He and
several other troopers were camping up there and they could
feel and hear something stomping around there camp and he
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said they all had their guns out and their flashlights out,
looking and calling out whatever was out there, and never
would come in where they could see it. But they
were pretty shook up about the whole situation. But and
again didn't want to file a report. It's hard at times.
I don't know why people if they just don't want to.
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They're still afraid they're going to be ridiculed or somebody's
going to find out and might cost them their job
if somebody thinks they're mentally unstable. But it's just it's
hard to get people to file reports. And I've talked
to many individuals who've had incidents and they just don't
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want to file a report.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Why do you think it's important for individuals to get
past that fear and to be able to file what
happened something like the BFROO or even report it to
podcasts like the one we're on now.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We want to prove these things exist so we can
I don't know if they really need our protection. They're
doing pretty well on their own, but so we can
get them protected. But it develops patterns. If people are
seeing and experiencing the same things all across the country
over and over again, that helps document that. Plus the
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more we document these experiences, the more we can learn
about these things and how they live, how they survive
as humans. We're curious as well. They're curious too, but
we want to know more and more about these things,
and as people file reports, that helps us to learn
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more about them. And I think a lot of I
think the government really has bodies. I've heard too many
stories about them being killed on military bases and whatnot,
and all of a sudden somebody shows up and the
bodies are disappear or whatever. But I think the land
usage is more probably the main reason that the government
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won't say they exist because of what it would do
to land usage. With Darby or cuts DNA study that's
going on, maybe that will shed more light into it.
We'll get some answers. But then what do you compare
the DNA to is it I've seen it listed as
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part human other things, say a known prime eate. We
have to compare it.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
To absolutely, and I'm right there with it. And it's
almost like you need to get that evidence where an
individual can say, Okay, we saw it, and we saw
it leave do something that would have left the hair
on a fence post and then I went over to
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the fence post and I got the hair, and so
that you can say, yes, I saw and then these
this hair or whatever evidence you have is directly from
the creature. I think that would be a great thing
to do. Besides, you know, I don't know if we're
at the point where we need to have an actual
body on the slab. If we have gotten to the
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point where people like Darby have really amazing skills for
doing DNA testing and they're really going after it, it
would be cool if we could prove it without that.
And I've also heard stories, and I've had people that
have talked to me off record and hey, we saw
this on the side of the road in Oregon and
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then it disappeared when we went back there and there
were like black SUVs. And you hear a variant of
that story every once in a while. But it's just
it's very interesting. There's a lot of things going on
behind the background that hopefully we'll come to late soon enough,
we'll see. In your years of talking to people that
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have had sightings through the BFRO.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Do you have.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Do you remember a conversation where the witness got a
really good look at what they were seeing, and they
were able to convey what that looked like to you
in a way that was very impressive.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Most of the individuals that I've had reports come to me,
they didn't really get an up close look like some
of the hunters looking through a scope. I know there's
a lot of those on the BFRO. When that comes
to mind, was I believe in Tucker County where a
guy was looking at through the scope and the general
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consensus when this happens is it looked too human. I
was afraid to pull the trigger. It just looked human,
and I thought, what if it's someone in a suit,
and then am I going to be charged with murder?
Or what is this thing? I don't Is it fart human?
Is it a wild human? And so they wouldn't shoot it.
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But most of the individuals that I've get reports from
and they saw it at a distance or it was
a road crossing and they didn't really get a good
look at the face.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, I would agree the conversations you hear with hunters
where they are able to look through a scope and
a man. I'm thinking of one specifically with Actually it
was on Russ Jones's show that he used to do.
And it was with Darryl Collier from down southeast Oklahoma
and area X, And it was the same type of conversation,
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like Darryl had it in its sights through the scope
and he wasn't able to squeeze the trigger because at
the end of the day he didn't know if it
was a human and he didn't want to be charged
for something. Yeah, I think that story gets repeated over
and over again.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
But yeah, that's an area I would absolutely love to
go to sometime. They get so much stuff there, it's
just wild. I was thinking that maybe that's if they
were going to harvest a bigfoot, that would probably be
where it would come from. But I think some of
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them have changed their opinion on that as well. There.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, if you're going off of the book that came
out a few years ago, because like that was their
thing for years as they were trying to get a
specimen right, and they had the whole protocol like, Okay,
if we get one, what do we do and are
we just are taking the whole thing? Are we taking parts?
And how do we get out of here safely without
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being taken out by other ones? But then I think
they switched over to trying to just get like photos,
but that I think that was actually before they had
the split in the group.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So who knows.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
There's not a lot of information that's come out from
the group after that split. Who knows what we've got
going on now down there. But Greg, this has been
a really interesting conversation. I've learned a lot more about
West Virginia and what's going on with bigfoot in there.
We don't get to talk to a lot of guys
from West Virginia, but I do appreciate you you coming
on the show, and I want to make sure that
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you were able to share everything that you had come
to the show with. Today.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I just wanted to mention about doctor Meldrum. I bought
a huge hole that just kind of leaves in that
the bigfoot community. And I spoke with him this past
year at West Rodinia Bigfoot Festival. He had been there
for several years and he was just a great guy
to talk to and so much knowledge. Just a fantastic guy,
(43:08):
just a really nice man. And we stood and talked
about the DNA study and could you get DNA from hair?
And I questioned him about legend meat science and when
that was going to come out and we chatted about
that and he was really looking forward to that coming
out soon. And yeah, just my condolence is still to
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his family and it's just a huge loss to the
Bigfoot community.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And there have been so many individuals that have been
actually lost in this community over the last few months
in twenty twenty five. It's just a lot to deal
with it. It reminds me of there's been certain conversations
I've had over the years where it's like, what are
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we going to do when certain people, when we lose
certain people who are going to be what we do
when it's that time to step up and to make
sure things keep moving in the community. And like, guys,
it's right now, like it is at bat like right now,
there's so many people that have moved on that wear it.
(44:17):
Make sure you're doing the right type of research, that
you're documenting things the right way, that you are talking
to the right people, and that the information gets out there,
and you know when disclosure and does come about, that
we are prepared to do the right things regarding conservation
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or things of that nature. There's going to have to
be a ton of people that step up for sure.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
I'm on the same mindset of Russ Jones and Brad Tennon.
I want to be there when they sit. They said,
we want to be right there in the front row, saying,
I'll told you.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
That that would be something.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Good stuff I told you all these years.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, I hear you. But Greg, is there
a way that, let's say, if people want to report
something about the areas that we've been talking about today
in West Virginia, how would you recommend that they go
about doing that?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
They can go to BFRO dot net and file report
and just put my name down for an investigator. They
can contact me on Facebook under Gregory Lambert and I
will respond to that as well. But the more reports
we get the documentation on the BFRO, that just helps
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build our case.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Greg.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
It's been a pleasure talking to you, and I hope
you have a great rest of your day.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Thanks Jerrem, I appreciate you having me on. You do
the same as well.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're
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you've seen something that no one can explain, or if
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And remember, if you or someone you know has had
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so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com
and let's start the conversation. If you haven't gotten a
(48:08):
chance yet, check out our membership community over at www
dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's where you
can hear tomorrow's episode today early in ad free and
members only, episodes every week. Also, it's a place to
connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject
as much as you are. Thanks again for following along
with the Bigfoot Society until next time. Keep your eyes open,
(48:32):
trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might
be out there?
Speaker 2 (48:35):
And see you in the woods.
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