October 29, 2024 • 29 mins
In part 2 of my yarn with Nooky, we dive into the making of his album with 3%, sharing how collaborations with artists like Dallas and Angus enriched the project’s focus on elevating cultural history and awareness. The iconic album cover, featuring AFL player Uncle Nicky Winmar, stands as a powerful testament against racism, symbolising resilience and strength.
Beyond his music, Nooky opens up about personal challenges, including his journey through grief and addiction, and the crucial role of community in his recovery. His dedication to cultural representation shines through in initiatives like We Are Warriors and an inspiring film trilogy about the black cockatoo, all of which emphasise youth mentorship and cultural storytelling.
Nooky’s personal anecdotes, including friendships with artists like Kid Laroi, highlight the significance of shared cultural ties and community-driven spaces for Indigenous voices. This yarn is a testament to the role of music in advocating for Indigenous rights, illustrating how Nooky’s resilience fuels his mission to create a supportive, culturally rich community.
Links & Resources:
- We are Warriors - https://www.wearewarriors.com.au/
- 3% - https://amnplify.com.au/first-nations-collective-3-nooky-dallas-woods-angus-field-share-new-single-video-wont-stop-feat-jessica-mauboy-ahead-of-debut-album-kill-the-dead/
- Blakout with Nooky - https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/blak-out
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
So there was three awards that go out. There was
four or five of us left. Yeah, made it to
the final bit, but this is where I get dusted.
So it was Pharrell and Rihanna. They tied for like
the gold one, and then there's me and ed Sheer
and left, and then I ended up getting the bronze one.
And then I have a laugh. Is bronze enough? He
didn't need?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mondonara Bail.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Welcome to part two of Mondanara's chat with Nookie Live
south By Southwest Sydney. We pick up where we left off.
Nookie yarns with Montanara about his group three percent three percent.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You're wearing it on your hat for those that are
not in the room and not.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Watching when this comes out, on YouTube three percent of
assistance for the fact that black fellows make up three
percent of the population.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You got two other brothers that you decided to collaborate with. Yeah,
and it's three percent that's up for the four arias.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh if we take home free, I'll be happy. Yeah,
one each. Yeah. When we were making the music, look,
I wrote a big list of names. I sent it
over to Dallas and he said three percent is the one.
And then when we decided to do it again, it
was just like I wanted it to be a constant reminder.
(01:53):
You know, we were one hundred percent of this country
once upon a time and now we're three percent. So
it was like every you know Spotify playlist, we're on,
every festival we do. It's front and center. You know,
you canin'd of escape it, and it's not necessarily I'm
not trying to use it as a bad thing or
a good things. You take it out, you want to
take that, but it's a reminder and it's not the true,
(02:13):
the truth. So I wanted that to shine out amongst
all the all the noise out there. So yeah, whenever
you see we're playing this festival, we're going to see
three percent and people might subconsciously think about it, they
might not, or younger ones coming through they might actually,
what's three percent mean? And you don't let them know.
So it was a yeah, that's why we decided on that.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How did like, there's two brothers and one of them
raps and the other ones.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Are producer singer, is a singer.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, so how the three of yours kind of get
together and come up with it?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The five or ten songs on that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
At first EP thirteen maybe fourteen one of them?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, now look me and so how kind of happened?
Was me and Dallas? I think actually, I think it's
the day I launched where our worries. Me and Dallas
lean doub and had a studio session and we made
this song, and yeah, the energy just felt right. I
know Dallas wanted to release this song, but the way
(03:15):
I kind of worked is I like to go to
the studio, muck around a bit, and then go back
and finish it. So I told him, I said, yes, sweet,
we'll do another session. I'll finish the song off with
you and then you can do what you want with it.
I linked up with Dallas again and that one song
turned into four songs. And while this was happening, I
was working on another little project. I was working on
(03:37):
a song with Angus. He was singing the hook on it,
which was like an interpolation of an Uncle Jimmy little song.
So what happened was I went down with Dallas and
once again mucked around a little bit. I said, next
to you, come to Sydney. We'll get the work. We'll
finish the songs. And now there's four songs. You put
it all out. And so Dallas came up. We had
(03:59):
the studio booked. I call Angus. I said, brothers, I
want to be in the studio work on this. You
should come down. We'll finish our one too. So yeah,
Angus flew. Now me and Dallas got the work in
the morning, lunchtime, hits Angus quick, it's lunchtime, brothers, come in,
get this one done, and Angus started singing. Dallas walks in.
(04:20):
He heard what he could do. He goes, who's this lad?
And I was like, that's Angus is from up North coast.
There mad mad voice on his mate, and he goes yeah.
And then so we just started jamming. Made a couple
more songs and that four songs that turned into the
fourteen songs that are on the album more just just
like that, and again it was one of those times
where it felt like the old fellows put us together.
(04:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, even the cover, if you haven't seen three percent,
have a look because it's in the media, especially because
there's four arias. One of the arias is for best
album cover. So the album cover is Nicki Windmer. Yeah,
remember that famous picture of the af play out lifting
(05:05):
up his T shirt, his jersey and pointing to his
black skin.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So that to Nicky winma Is and Adam Goods did
it once.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And there's younger abersh AFL players that are dealing with
racism still on the field today that you find are
lifting up their jerseys and pointing.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
To their black skin. So to have what.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Made you choose that moment as your cover And it's
amazing that that's actually up for best album cover for
an aria.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah. Looking now a high school, we didn't have a
lot of posters, but that was one of them. So
I grew up looking at that picture and again there
was that message of hope and strength. He was copping
it that day and he lift up his jersey's you
can't change this. I'm black and I'm proud, and that
to me summed up the essence of what we were
doing with the music. So first of all, reached out
(05:58):
to Uncle NICKI I knew someone who knew him, put
us in touch and you know, show him the music,
told him what it was about, and he was he
was all for. He goes, yeah, nephew, you take it.
You go do your thing, and then rang up Uncle
Dan Boyd there again big fan of his artworker, said I,
unc I would love to have you a part of
this with us, sent him the music and he goes, yeah,
(06:19):
I'm in And then said Uncle Nick, He said we
can do this. And then so Uncle Dan painted it
and then that's yeah, we came the.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Cover because it's pixelated. It looks like just do dots, yeah,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I was looking at it and just staring at it.
I was like, wow, you know, I couldn't imagine the
whole thought process for an album cover. Yeah, and there's
three of you, is right, You'll got to agree on
what you want and then kind of feel that this
is going to be right for especially Australia. Right, this
is this is the reality for blackfellows sometimes to think
(06:52):
about how people are going to perceive.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
This, but to have Uncle Nicki's support pretty deadly.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I was going to say in terms of We
Are Warriors you mentioned before, and I know that there
was a documentary that you've done and at won some
award at Cans the Cans or Cans you know, the
Cahns Film Festival in Paris, Paris. So you want to brother,
(07:22):
this is crazy. You just walk past his brother in
the street and I wouldn't know, you know, for four
areas and I was in Paris, won award over there,
done a frisking song with black eyed peas, Like this
is crazy success that most not even blackfellows, that musicians
(07:43):
and artists in general, you know, they might not want
that kind of success. But just for a black woman
growing up in Redfern, it's very far and few in
between to see blackfellows, proud blackfellows speaking their truth succeed
in this country.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So it's just good timing that the album come out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But We Are Warriors, I know that that's something that's
really close to your heart, close to home.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's for me, Like that's the big legacy
piece that I leave behind. There's something that was come
to me when I was in a bit of a dark,
dark place. And so we are warriors. Is like it's
a business. I started organization movement. You know, could throw
(08:32):
a million names on it what it does. And yes,
based off like a story we got down in Norris
and now it is named after the Black Cockatoo and
the story with him is there's a big fire down
home and this was the first fire. So the mob
there they've never seen fire before and they knew it
was This wasn't a good fire. This was something bad.
(08:52):
They could see, you know, the destruction that was causing.
So they started singing out for help in the area
they were in. It was the White Cockatoos area. So
this bird he comes down, he's I got what's going
on on? Look here, we don't know what this is,
but we can see the damage is doing to the land,
and he's coming towards us. So he has no worries.
(09:13):
I'll go sust it out. And this bird, he, you know,
in that moment, he was selfless and he flew into
the fire. And you know, going inside that fire, when
you're a bird, it's probably not a not a good
thing to do. So he's going through here, he's getting burnt,
he's getting you know, thrown this way that way, and
it's you know, he's getting tormented and tortured here. And
(09:36):
he could have stopped flying, He could have laid down
in that fire and let it consume him. Why he
decided to keep going. So he gets out of the
fire and he flies over that river with there we
got him now. And as he looks down, he sees
his reflection in the water, and he noticed that he's changed.
And in that moment, he has a bit horrified by
(09:58):
what he'd seen. So he started calling out, which is
the core that the black Doggert two does. And when
he'd done this call, the rain came down and then
put out the fire. So this you know, the people
when he returned, they started celebrating him. And you know,
although he went through the fire, he came out changed,
(10:18):
different and scarred. But you know, those scars were lessons
that he carried and he became the rain bird. He
became the bird who brings change. So that story is
something I'll hold close to my heart and something I
always looked to for inspiration, which is I think why
you hear the hope because everything I do, I'll base
it off that one one story always, and that's the
story of hope and being, you know, being able to
(10:41):
go through the fire and come out the other side,
but bring what you learned and use that to heal
the people around. So, yeah, there was a moment in
my life. You know, you can imagine this music game.
There's a lot of things that come with it, a
lot of traps, a lot of temptation, a lot of alcohol,
a lot of lots of things. And yeah, I found
(11:04):
myself consumed by it because my cousin who got me
into wrap he passed out of nowhere, just suddenly car crashed,
And this sent me on a downward spiral because usually
I'd go to the music to release things, and that's
where I go to the hill. But my cousin gave
me that gift and he wasn't there, so going the
(11:27):
music was hard. So I ended up drinking myself stupid
for a couple of years, to the point where it's
like speaking to a good friend of mine in a
moment I was struggling a bit, He's like, you know,
well when did this happen? And I lost three years
of my life I lost. I like last week. Wait nah,
(11:49):
I wasn't last week, and I started, I was, it
was three years ago this happened. So that's when I
started to That's when it hit me. I didn't really
pretended like I tried this off at that moment, but
I didn't really. And there was still a good year
or two after that where I really stopped and I
(12:12):
looked at myself in the mirror one time and I
said that's enough, no more so like the whole time
for me, that was the fire and that day when
I said it's finished, it's when we are worriors is born.
That's what come out the other side with me. So
that's what I tried to share.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, rather thank you for sharing. We a no grief
all too well as blackfellows. And there's so many people
that we've lost in our community, and a lot of
the time it's premature death, and those people live inside
of us and keeping their memories alive. For a lot
of our mob that are listening in, particularly our mob
(12:53):
that are struggling, but look up to you and particularly
and look up to other blackfellows and see us as
either successful or they've made it or I want to
be they are like what would you say to them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like the thing I say a lot is like if
you do go to that dark place, you can turn
the light on, you know, which is what I did
in the moment. And for me, like the way I
measured success as long as you're happy, you know. So
if you're if your heart's in it and you feel joying
what you do, and then that's that's success for me. Yeah.
And then when I did launch with Our Warriors and
(13:30):
the film going to the Carns, when that I didn't
even notice at a time, and I'm going Cans, I
watch you go on Queensland for not Queensland, Paris there
or Carns. Yeah, that one went out there and that
that was a mad, mad trip.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Take someone with you. That was really special.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, it took my daughters, so like winning the award
at Carns was sick. The best part of it is
taking my kids at Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's only everyone's dream, right, I want to go to Land.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, so you took your daughters? How old of that?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There're seven and six now, I can't remember how old
day was then, But for me that was the real one.
And they listening to the radio on that. You know
what's funny is these awards, right, the people you nominated against.
It's crazy competition. Like I remember seeing it. We're in
there with Pharrell and doctor Dre was in it. Doctor
(14:30):
Dre didn't get too far. I'll tell you that. I
was shocked. I was shocked and old doctor Dre. So yeah,
seeing these names slowly drop off the list and I'm
still there and I'm like, no way. And it gets
to the end. And so there was three awards that
go out and there was only there was four or
five of us left, right, So I'm all right, yeah,
(14:53):
made it to the final bit. But this is where
this is where I get dusted. And then on the
night you go to the to the thing. And so
it was Pharrell and Rhianna they tied for like the
gold one, and then the silver award went to Rosalia,
which is Latino singer. She's got the silver one, and
(15:18):
then there's me and Ed Sheeran left. Yeah. Yeah, and
then I ended up getting the bronze one. And then
I have a laugh. I say, he is bronze enough.
He didn't need any but yeah, and then my daughters
(15:38):
like they got and they were still, you know, figuring
out how to talk, and told him, yeah, beat ed sheering,
Why you're better singing than cheering? Yeah, And they go
everywhere and they still remind me every now and I
remember when you beat cheering.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So yeah, done, done that and dropped the The follow
up film to that, yesterday, whis a new one. See
we'll get silver for this one. But yeah, I release
that one yesterday and it's called We Rise. And the
first one was called Through the Flames, so joining it
all together, there's a third one coming. It's going to
be called from the Fire. So all three of them
(16:16):
together will tell that Black Rocket two story. So I
was Through the Fire, we Rise from the Flames, and
that will be the end of that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Era, that chapter.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I feel really privileged just to hear you speak about
because I watched the documentary. I can hear there's a
bit of narration you're talking about it, but hearing it
kind of firsthand right now, I actually feel more connected
to seven Minutes or other documentary. It was so powerful.
You have to watch it. Get on YouTube and watch
(16:54):
the documentary. But also, how can people find your music, Like,
what's the best way for us at consume music. Is
there websites or streaming sites that you as an artist
to get more money or something?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Someone told me that iHeartRadio. If you want to add
us to rotation and heart radio, Yeah, look straight to
the source. How I think YouTube is a good one, Spotify, Amazon, iTunes.
I'm trying not to single anyone out, but whoever's paying
me the most of them go to They'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
How to make sure that the money is coming back
to the artist.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, and then you know what's another
mad thing? And this is this one's not out yet,
this one's coming. So with a lot of the work
I do with We Are Worries is like community workshops
back home and now in particular, so the school lot
got kicked out of, I'll work with the kids down
there now making sure they don't get kicked out. And
(18:00):
my cousin Selwy right, he put me on this journey.
And you know when he left us and he had
two kids and he's young fellow, he's maybe fourteen fifteen now,
And yeah, music, you know, was just helped me combat racism.
(18:21):
I say, how I released it and this, Yeah, I
was yelling to his mom and he started experiencing it
for the first time not too long ago, and he
got suspended from school and I was yelling to his
mom and she was saying, Oh, he needs to be
around some you know, good role model, some strong black men.
(18:42):
And he's you know, he loves his culture, he loves
his music, rapping. He's just starting getting the rapping, and
he also loves playing basketball. I was like, Oh, that
sounds like someone I know. No worries bringing up Patti Mles.
I was like, I've got a young fellow, he's having
a bit of a hard time. Can we bring him
out to sea? And we end up flew him out
to Miami when Patty was with the Heat, got the
(19:03):
hang out with We've Patty for a day and that
so again, that was a big success moment for me,
is repaying that what he's father done for me hopefully
done for him. And so I hope that sets him
on his path. You know, he goes does his thing.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But I think that's one of the best things, right
is when you're able to give back to your family,
your community and where it all started. I just want
to say thank you because it's every time I talk
about people that have passed, and I hear other.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
People, I feel like I feel a little bit heavy.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
At the same time, I feel really proud and deadly
that here we are as two black fellows on the
iHeart podcast stage at this massive conference. That's the first
time we're in a long time where you know there's
a platform now for black fellows.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know you can't be what you can't see.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So just big fan of yours, I mean trying to
chase his brother down for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We tried to meet in Brisbane to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Do a podcast recording at our Heart Kiss FM. Couldn't
even get that happening, but I was willing to move
mountains to try and get this happening. But I can't
wait literally here if there's anyone in the audience that
has a question anything at all, or even some of
your thoughts of being here and being able to listen
(20:26):
to Nookie firsthand. I'm always googling people and watching people,
but to sit here feels a little bit surreal.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I must say, is there anyone that has anything questioned thoughts?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I feel like I'm going into training, reflections observations at
the front.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I saw you a global citizen earlier in the Air
and that was really amazing the first time I heard
it about.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You Melbourne the yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I'm wondering when you get approach by you know, global
organizations like that and they want a piece of you,
do you do you feel like that's helpful and do
you feel like it advances your cars?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah? Sometimes, sometimes yes and sometimes no. When things like
that arise on certain partnerships with companies, businesses coming to
things like south By Southwest, you know, when CIS asks
get no worries, what do you want to do, let's go.
But you know, with other mob sons is a bigger conversation.
(21:26):
So it's like even them in particular good ways, like
that's how I'd like you for this. I'm like, yeah, cool,
that's that sounds good. Well, I'd much rather do all
of this and have like that ongoing connection and relationship
and work. I think that's that's vital. So if things
are like I went off, then you're most likely not
(21:47):
going to see me there. But if there's a commitment
to you know, move forward and do things and give
back the community, then then I'm there. Like it's always
the thing I look for, Like even you know, there's
a there's a show on here on Saturday with the
first kid Leroy and the Only Kid Roy and Blackyard
(22:11):
on Saturday Tame along Park first email lists and I
was like, yeah, cool, let's do this, but let me
have thirty tickets for the little kids now I know,
to come and watch, you know. So that's that's always
community first and foremost and there everything I do. So
if I don't see benefit in the community, you know,
it doesn't even matter the price attached to it. Like, yes,
it's the mob first. So that's that's what guy's my
(22:33):
decision on, you know, those things, working with those things, collaborations, talks,
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, that's I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's that's a very aboriginal response where our culture is
about the community, the mob, the collective. So it's okay,
that's great for me as an artist or as an individual,
but what about my community?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What can what can you do?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think that's a really good piece of advice or
even a lesson for people that are listening to the podcast,
is that when you are coming to and you do
have some kind of project or initiative or you want
to collaborate with community with first nations, indigenous communities or
businesses or artists. You know, just think about you know,
what are you going to do beyond this project? Reciprocity
(23:19):
reciprocal you know, you give to me, I give back,
and that relationship should be long term and not just okay,
we did that event next week or last year and
that was it. So love the question and love the response,
my brother, So anyone else before we have to say goodbye?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Is the one last two yes down here at the front.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Hey, So I found your music actually through shazaming one
of your songs on Spotify on the radio, which is awesome,
but that's also that can be a time and a
place thing. So I was wondering if you had any artists,
music or outside of it that you'd like to shout
out in the right.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Direction of Yeah, there's heaps.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
It is like you not leave anyone out now.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
On on Friday Saturday, there's Ria who's like a new
singer kind of coming up through the ranks. There's Willie
Jay and Chazza there from around Waterloo and that same
area as Leroy young brother who's is from around Leeb There,
Bunge Lung with Adri Foller, rox S Lavvy. He's a
new guy coming up through the scenes. He'll be performing
(24:25):
there as well. There's Kate dropped some new stuff recently.
Jada Weasel's a sick one. Becca Hatch Kilroy. Yeah, yeah,
there's there's here you say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Thank you, And a question down the front.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Hi, my name is Tika. I'm a Gounditch Mara woman
came up from NAM.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just wanted to ask.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It kind of plays off the first question. How do
you navigate going through spaces that weren't traditionally created with
mob in mind and feeling like you belong there despite
how you said that we used to make up one
hundred b of this country.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, you know what, Like I think I look at it,
it's not do I belong there? So do they belong
with me? You know what I mean? I walk into
these rooms like I'm going to do this regardless whether
you're there or not. Just up to you. If you're
going better bring some dollars with you if you do,
because a lot of it we got to eat. Yeah again,
Yeah again, it's that one. It's that ongoing commitment, that
(25:30):
long term stuffter you know, the longevity and if I
can't can't see that then, yeah, they weren't right for
the journey, so I yeah, I hope they help.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
That's a great way to wrap up this.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, my brother, we could be going for another hour
or two, but I know you've got places to go.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Big shout out to Larroy.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
My kids biggest Lroy fans and rang my nephew he
was playing for Sydney Kings and said, I know you
know LARROI how about getting some tickets so my kids
can go see him. It was a Core that gave
us some tickets to see LaRoy, so my kids first
ever concert was in a box at a Core stadium.
(26:09):
But because we couldn't meet him that night, he literally said,
if you get to the Brisbane show, I'll make sure
that your names are on the door and can you
can meet out And he did. He actually kept his
promise and my kids we had to fly to Brisbane
then and go meet Larroy. But talk about a lad
from the community that hasn't forgotten where he comes from.
(26:30):
That another young brother says, Hey, my auntie's coming with
five kids. Can you meet him because they want to
get a photo with you, And he made it happen
the first time failed that's all right the second time
pulled it off.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, that's that's exactly the thing with him. He doesn't
forget where he comes from and you know all of that,
Like I used to buy him plms him and his
little brother Oz, you know, and he'll still reach out
even before he left and became you know who everyone
knows him has. Today we went to a show together
Wu Tang and straight after school so we go to Wines.
(27:03):
He drops his school bag off. Two weeks later flies
out to America and becomes the kid ler Roy. He's
school back.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Still there, humble beginnings. Yeah, my brother will look I hope.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That all of you enjoyed this amazing year. I feel
like every time I sit down, especially with my own mob,
and just yarn about who we are, what we do,
things that you're getting up to, and I'm sure there's
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You can listen to Nookie Sunday nights on Blackout and
I love it. What is it playing tunes when you're lapping.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You just lapping the streets?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Something tag line that was.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Just like this is like one of my older brothers
having a yarn. So if you haven't had listened to
Sunday Nights predominantly averaged on music, and all those names
that you just read it off, I'm pretty sure that
you probably you.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Play them on Triple Jay.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Otherwise, jump online and hit this brother up solid.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So thank you for coming in. Thank you, I've being
part of this amazing podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah. Well again, like black as Women existed, ones for
people like your nan and your dad and that log
I never met your old men, but everywhere it's Uncle
Tiger was the man. You know, solid reputation everywhere, so
it's mad if I only get the link with you mob,
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Thank you full circle. So look on that note, I
hope you've enjoyed this episode. Until next time.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Bye for now. If you'd like.
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Speaker 3 (29:04):
They did to both s
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
So there was three awards that go out. There was
four or five of us left. Yeah, made it to
the final bit, but this is where I get dusted.
So it was Pharrell and Rihanna. They tied for like
the gold one, and then there's me and ed Sheer
and left, and then I ended up getting the bronze one.
And then I have a laugh. Is bronze enough? He
didn't need?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mondonara Bail.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Welcome to part two of Mondanara's chat with Nookie Live
south By Southwest Sydney. We pick up where we left off.
Nookie yarns with Montanara about his group three percent three percent.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You're wearing it on your hat for those that are
not in the room and not.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Watching when this comes out, on YouTube three percent of
assistance for the fact that black fellows make up three
percent of the population.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You got two other brothers that you decided to collaborate with. Yeah,
and it's three percent that's up for the four arias.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Oh if we take home free, I'll be happy. Yeah,
one each. Yeah. When we were making the music, look,
I wrote a big list of names. I sent it
over to Dallas and he said three percent is the one.
And then when we decided to do it again, it
was just like I wanted it to be a constant reminder.
(01:53):
You know, we were one hundred percent of this country
once upon a time and now we're three percent. So
it was like every you know Spotify playlist, we're on,
every festival we do. It's front and center. You know,
you canin'd of escape it, and it's not necessarily I'm
not trying to use it as a bad thing or
a good things. You take it out, you want to
take that, but it's a reminder and it's not the true,
(02:13):
the truth. So I wanted that to shine out amongst
all the all the noise out there. So yeah, whenever
you see we're playing this festival, we're going to see
three percent and people might subconsciously think about it, they
might not, or younger ones coming through they might actually,
what's three percent mean? And you don't let them know.
So it was a yeah, that's why we decided on that.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
How did like, there's two brothers and one of them
raps and the other ones.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Are producer singer, is a singer.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, so how the three of yours kind of get
together and come up with it?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The five or ten songs on that.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
At first EP thirteen maybe fourteen one of them?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, now look me and so how kind of happened?
Was me and Dallas? I think actually, I think it's
the day I launched where our worries. Me and Dallas
lean doub and had a studio session and we made
this song, and yeah, the energy just felt right. I
know Dallas wanted to release this song, but the way
(03:15):
I kind of worked is I like to go to
the studio, muck around a bit, and then go back
and finish it. So I told him, I said, yes, sweet,
we'll do another session. I'll finish the song off with
you and then you can do what you want with it.
I linked up with Dallas again and that one song
turned into four songs. And while this was happening, I
was working on another little project. I was working on
(03:37):
a song with Angus. He was singing the hook on it,
which was like an interpolation of an Uncle Jimmy little song.
So what happened was I went down with Dallas and
once again mucked around a little bit. I said, next
to you, come to Sydney. We'll get the work. We'll
finish the songs. And now there's four songs. You put
it all out. And so Dallas came up. We had
(03:59):
the studio booked. I call Angus. I said, brothers, I
want to be in the studio work on this. You
should come down. We'll finish our one too. So yeah,
Angus flew. Now me and Dallas got the work in
the morning, lunchtime, hits Angus quick, it's lunchtime, brothers, come in,
get this one done, and Angus started singing. Dallas walks in.
(04:20):
He heard what he could do. He goes, who's this lad?
And I was like, that's Angus is from up North coast.
There mad mad voice on his mate, and he goes yeah.
And then so we just started jamming. Made a couple
more songs and that four songs that turned into the
fourteen songs that are on the album more just just
like that, and again it was one of those times
where it felt like the old fellows put us together.
(04:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, even the cover, if you haven't seen three percent,
have a look because it's in the media, especially because
there's four arias. One of the arias is for best
album cover. So the album cover is Nicki Windmer. Yeah,
remember that famous picture of the af play out lifting
(05:05):
up his T shirt, his jersey and pointing to his
black skin.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So that to Nicky winma Is and Adam Goods did
it once.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And there's younger abersh AFL players that are dealing with
racism still on the field today that you find are
lifting up their jerseys and pointing.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
To their black skin. So to have what.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Made you choose that moment as your cover And it's
amazing that that's actually up for best album cover for
an aria.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah. Looking now a high school, we didn't have a
lot of posters, but that was one of them. So
I grew up looking at that picture and again there
was that message of hope and strength. He was copping
it that day and he lift up his jersey's you
can't change this. I'm black and I'm proud, and that
to me summed up the essence of what we were
doing with the music. So first of all, reached out
(05:58):
to Uncle NICKI I knew someone who knew him, put
us in touch and you know, show him the music,
told him what it was about, and he was he
was all for. He goes, yeah, nephew, you take it.
You go do your thing, and then rang up Uncle
Dan Boyd there again big fan of his artworker, said I,
unc I would love to have you a part of
this with us, sent him the music and he goes, yeah,
(06:19):
I'm in And then said Uncle Nick, He said we
can do this. And then so Uncle Dan painted it
and then that's yeah, we came the.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Cover because it's pixelated. It looks like just do dots, yeah,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I was looking at it and just staring at it.
I was like, wow, you know, I couldn't imagine the
whole thought process for an album cover. Yeah, and there's
three of you, is right, You'll got to agree on
what you want and then kind of feel that this
is going to be right for especially Australia. Right, this
is this is the reality for blackfellows sometimes to think
(06:52):
about how people are going to perceive.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
This, but to have Uncle Nicki's support pretty deadly.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
And I was going to say in terms of We
Are Warriors you mentioned before, and I know that there
was a documentary that you've done and at won some
award at Cans the Cans or Cans you know, the
Cahns Film Festival in Paris, Paris. So you want to brother,
(07:22):
this is crazy. You just walk past his brother in
the street and I wouldn't know, you know, for four
areas and I was in Paris, won award over there,
done a frisking song with black eyed peas, Like this
is crazy success that most not even blackfellows, that musicians
(07:43):
and artists in general, you know, they might not want
that kind of success. But just for a black woman
growing up in Redfern, it's very far and few in
between to see blackfellows, proud blackfellows speaking their truth succeed
in this country.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So it's just good timing that the album come out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But We Are Warriors, I know that that's something that's
really close to your heart, close to home.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's for me, Like that's the big legacy
piece that I leave behind. There's something that was come
to me when I was in a bit of a dark,
dark place. And so we are warriors. Is like it's
a business. I started organization movement. You know, could throw
(08:32):
a million names on it what it does. And yes,
based off like a story we got down in Norris
and now it is named after the Black Cockatoo and
the story with him is there's a big fire down
home and this was the first fire. So the mob
there they've never seen fire before and they knew it
was This wasn't a good fire. This was something bad.
(08:52):
They could see, you know, the destruction that was causing.
So they started singing out for help in the area
they were in. It was the White Cockatoos area. So
this bird he comes down, he's I got what's going
on on? Look here, we don't know what this is,
but we can see the damage is doing to the land,
and he's coming towards us. So he has no worries.
(09:13):
I'll go sust it out. And this bird, he, you know,
in that moment, he was selfless and he flew into
the fire. And you know, going inside that fire, when
you're a bird, it's probably not a not a good
thing to do. So he's going through here, he's getting burnt,
he's getting you know, thrown this way that way, and
it's you know, he's getting tormented and tortured here. And
(09:36):
he could have stopped flying, He could have laid down
in that fire and let it consume him. Why he
decided to keep going. So he gets out of the
fire and he flies over that river with there we
got him now. And as he looks down, he sees
his reflection in the water, and he noticed that he's changed.
And in that moment, he has a bit horrified by
(09:58):
what he'd seen. So he started calling out, which is
the core that the black Doggert two does. And when
he'd done this call, the rain came down and then
put out the fire. So this you know, the people
when he returned, they started celebrating him. And you know,
although he went through the fire, he came out changed,
(10:18):
different and scarred. But you know, those scars were lessons
that he carried and he became the rain bird. He
became the bird who brings change. So that story is
something I'll hold close to my heart and something I
always looked to for inspiration, which is I think why
you hear the hope because everything I do, I'll base
it off that one one story always, and that's the
story of hope and being, you know, being able to
(10:41):
go through the fire and come out the other side,
but bring what you learned and use that to heal
the people around. So, yeah, there was a moment in
my life. You know, you can imagine this music game.
There's a lot of things that come with it, a
lot of traps, a lot of temptation, a lot of alcohol,
a lot of lots of things. And yeah, I found
(11:04):
myself consumed by it because my cousin who got me
into wrap he passed out of nowhere, just suddenly car crashed,
And this sent me on a downward spiral because usually
I'd go to the music to release things, and that's
where I go to the hill. But my cousin gave
me that gift and he wasn't there, so going the
(11:27):
music was hard. So I ended up drinking myself stupid
for a couple of years, to the point where it's
like speaking to a good friend of mine in a
moment I was struggling a bit, He's like, you know,
well when did this happen? And I lost three years
of my life I lost. I like last week. Wait nah,
(11:49):
I wasn't last week, and I started, I was, it
was three years ago this happened. So that's when I
started to That's when it hit me. I didn't really
pretended like I tried this off at that moment, but
I didn't really. And there was still a good year
or two after that where I really stopped and I
(12:12):
looked at myself in the mirror one time and I
said that's enough, no more so like the whole time
for me, that was the fire and that day when
I said it's finished, it's when we are worriors is born.
That's what come out the other side with me. So
that's what I tried to share.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, rather thank you for sharing. We a no grief
all too well as blackfellows. And there's so many people
that we've lost in our community, and a lot of
the time it's premature death, and those people live inside
of us and keeping their memories alive. For a lot
of our mob that are listening in, particularly our mob
(12:53):
that are struggling, but look up to you and particularly
and look up to other blackfellows and see us as
either successful or they've made it or I want to
be they are like what would you say to them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like the thing I say a lot is like if
you do go to that dark place, you can turn
the light on, you know, which is what I did
in the moment. And for me, like the way I
measured success as long as you're happy, you know. So
if you're if your heart's in it and you feel joying
what you do, and then that's that's success for me. Yeah.
And then when I did launch with Our Warriors and
(13:30):
the film going to the Carns, when that I didn't
even notice at a time, and I'm going Cans, I
watch you go on Queensland for not Queensland, Paris there
or Carns. Yeah, that one went out there and that
that was a mad, mad trip.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Take someone with you. That was really special.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah, it took my daughters, so like winning the award
at Carns was sick. The best part of it is
taking my kids at Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That's only everyone's dream, right, I want to go to Land.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, so you took your daughters? How old of that?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There're seven and six now, I can't remember how old
day was then, But for me that was the real one.
And they listening to the radio on that. You know
what's funny is these awards, right, the people you nominated against.
It's crazy competition. Like I remember seeing it. We're in
there with Pharrell and doctor Dre was in it. Doctor
(14:30):
Dre didn't get too far. I'll tell you that. I
was shocked. I was shocked and old doctor Dre. So yeah,
seeing these names slowly drop off the list and I'm
still there and I'm like, no way. And it gets
to the end. And so there was three awards that
go out and there was only there was four or
five of us left, right, So I'm all right, yeah,
(14:53):
made it to the final bit. But this is where
this is where I get dusted. And then on the
night you go to the to the thing. And so
it was Pharrell and Rhianna they tied for like the
gold one, and then the silver award went to Rosalia,
which is Latino singer. She's got the silver one, and
(15:18):
then there's me and Ed Sheeran left. Yeah. Yeah, and
then I ended up getting the bronze one. And then
I have a laugh. I say, he is bronze enough.
He didn't need any but yeah, and then my daughters
(15:38):
like they got and they were still, you know, figuring
out how to talk, and told him, yeah, beat ed sheering,
Why you're better singing than cheering? Yeah, And they go
everywhere and they still remind me every now and I
remember when you beat cheering.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So yeah, done, done that and dropped the The follow
up film to that, yesterday, whis a new one. See
we'll get silver for this one. But yeah, I release
that one yesterday and it's called We Rise. And the
first one was called Through the Flames, so joining it
all together, there's a third one coming. It's going to
be called from the Fire. So all three of them
(16:16):
together will tell that Black Rocket two story. So I
was Through the Fire, we Rise from the Flames, and
that will be the end of that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Era, that chapter.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I feel really privileged just to hear you speak about
because I watched the documentary. I can hear there's a
bit of narration you're talking about it, but hearing it
kind of firsthand right now, I actually feel more connected
to seven Minutes or other documentary. It was so powerful.
You have to watch it. Get on YouTube and watch
(16:54):
the documentary. But also, how can people find your music, Like,
what's the best way for us at consume music. Is
there websites or streaming sites that you as an artist
to get more money or something?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Someone told me that iHeartRadio. If you want to add
us to rotation and heart radio, Yeah, look straight to
the source. How I think YouTube is a good one, Spotify, Amazon, iTunes.
I'm trying not to single anyone out, but whoever's paying
me the most of them go to They'll let you know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
How to make sure that the money is coming back
to the artist.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, and then you know what's another
mad thing? And this is this one's not out yet,
this one's coming. So with a lot of the work
I do with We Are Worries is like community workshops
back home and now in particular, so the school lot
got kicked out of, I'll work with the kids down
there now making sure they don't get kicked out. And
(18:00):
my cousin Selwy right, he put me on this journey.
And you know when he left us and he had
two kids and he's young fellow, he's maybe fourteen fifteen now,
And yeah, music, you know, was just helped me combat racism.
(18:21):
I say, how I released it and this, Yeah, I
was yelling to his mom and he started experiencing it
for the first time not too long ago, and he
got suspended from school and I was yelling to his
mom and she was saying, Oh, he needs to be
around some you know, good role model, some strong black men.
(18:42):
And he's you know, he loves his culture, he loves
his music, rapping. He's just starting getting the rapping, and
he also loves playing basketball. I was like, Oh, that
sounds like someone I know. No worries bringing up Patti Mles.
I was like, I've got a young fellow, he's having
a bit of a hard time. Can we bring him
out to sea? And we end up flew him out
to Miami when Patty was with the Heat, got the
(19:03):
hang out with We've Patty for a day and that
so again, that was a big success moment for me,
is repaying that what he's father done for me hopefully
done for him. And so I hope that sets him
on his path. You know, he goes does his thing.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But I think that's one of the best things, right
is when you're able to give back to your family,
your community and where it all started. I just want
to say thank you because it's every time I talk
about people that have passed, and I hear other.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
People, I feel like I feel a little bit heavy.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
At the same time, I feel really proud and deadly
that here we are as two black fellows on the
iHeart podcast stage at this massive conference. That's the first
time we're in a long time where you know there's
a platform now for black fellows.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know you can't be what you can't see.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So just big fan of yours, I mean trying to
chase his brother down for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We tried to meet in Brisbane to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Do a podcast recording at our Heart Kiss FM. Couldn't
even get that happening, but I was willing to move
mountains to try and get this happening. But I can't
wait literally here if there's anyone in the audience that
has a question anything at all, or even some of
your thoughts of being here and being able to listen
(20:26):
to Nookie firsthand. I'm always googling people and watching people,
but to sit here feels a little bit surreal.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I must say, is there anyone that has anything questioned thoughts?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I feel like I'm going into training, reflections observations at
the front.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
I saw you a global citizen earlier in the Air
and that was really amazing the first time I heard
it about.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
You Melbourne the yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I'm wondering when you get approach by you know, global
organizations like that and they want a piece of you,
do you do you feel like that's helpful and do
you feel like it advances your cars?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah? Sometimes, sometimes yes and sometimes no. When things like
that arise on certain partnerships with companies, businesses coming to
things like south By Southwest, you know, when CIS asks
get no worries, what do you want to do, let's go.
But you know, with other mob sons is a bigger conversation.
(21:26):
So it's like even them in particular good ways, like
that's how I'd like you for this. I'm like, yeah, cool,
that's that sounds good. Well, I'd much rather do all
of this and have like that ongoing connection and relationship
and work. I think that's that's vital. So if things
are like I went off, then you're most likely not
(21:47):
going to see me there. But if there's a commitment
to you know, move forward and do things and give
back the community, then then I'm there. Like it's always
the thing I look for, Like even you know, there's
a there's a show on here on Saturday with the
first kid Leroy and the Only Kid Roy and Blackyard
(22:11):
on Saturday Tame along Park first email lists and I
was like, yeah, cool, let's do this, but let me
have thirty tickets for the little kids now I know,
to come and watch, you know. So that's that's always
community first and foremost and there everything I do. So
if I don't see benefit in the community, you know,
it doesn't even matter the price attached to it. Like, yes,
it's the mob first. So that's that's what guy's my
(22:33):
decision on, you know, those things, working with those things, collaborations, talks,
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, that's I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's that's a very aboriginal response where our culture is
about the community, the mob, the collective. So it's okay,
that's great for me as an artist or as an individual,
but what about my community?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What can what can you do?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think that's a really good piece of advice or
even a lesson for people that are listening to the podcast,
is that when you are coming to and you do
have some kind of project or initiative or you want
to collaborate with community with first nations, indigenous communities or
businesses or artists. You know, just think about you know,
what are you going to do beyond this project? Reciprocity
(23:19):
reciprocal you know, you give to me, I give back,
and that relationship should be long term and not just okay,
we did that event next week or last year and
that was it. So love the question and love the response,
my brother, So anyone else before we have to say goodbye?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Is the one last two yes down here at the front.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Hey, So I found your music actually through shazaming one
of your songs on Spotify on the radio, which is awesome,
but that's also that can be a time and a
place thing. So I was wondering if you had any artists,
music or outside of it that you'd like to shout
out in the right.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Direction of Yeah, there's heaps.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
It is like you not leave anyone out now.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
On on Friday Saturday, there's Ria who's like a new
singer kind of coming up through the ranks. There's Willie
Jay and Chazza there from around Waterloo and that same
area as Leroy young brother who's is from around Leeb There,
Bunge Lung with Adri Foller, rox S Lavvy. He's a
new guy coming up through the scenes. He'll be performing
(24:25):
there as well. There's Kate dropped some new stuff recently.
Jada Weasel's a sick one. Becca Hatch Kilroy. Yeah, yeah,
there's there's here you say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Thank you, And a question down the front.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Hi, my name is Tika. I'm a Gounditch Mara woman
came up from NAM.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just wanted to ask.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It kind of plays off the first question. How do
you navigate going through spaces that weren't traditionally created with
mob in mind and feeling like you belong there despite
how you said that we used to make up one
hundred b of this country.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, you know what, Like I think I look at it,
it's not do I belong there? So do they belong
with me? You know what I mean? I walk into
these rooms like I'm going to do this regardless whether
you're there or not. Just up to you. If you're
going better bring some dollars with you if you do,
because a lot of it we got to eat. Yeah again,
Yeah again, it's that one. It's that ongoing commitment, that
(25:30):
long term stuffter you know, the longevity and if I
can't can't see that then, yeah, they weren't right for
the journey, so I yeah, I hope they help.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
That's a great way to wrap up this.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, my brother, we could be going for another hour
or two, but I know you've got places to go.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Big shout out to Larroy.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
My kids biggest Lroy fans and rang my nephew he
was playing for Sydney Kings and said, I know you
know LARROI how about getting some tickets so my kids
can go see him. It was a Core that gave
us some tickets to see LaRoy, so my kids first
ever concert was in a box at a Core stadium.
(26:09):
But because we couldn't meet him that night, he literally said,
if you get to the Brisbane show, I'll make sure
that your names are on the door and can you
can meet out And he did. He actually kept his
promise and my kids we had to fly to Brisbane
then and go meet Larroy. But talk about a lad
from the community that hasn't forgotten where he comes from.
(26:30):
That another young brother says, Hey, my auntie's coming with
five kids. Can you meet him because they want to
get a photo with you, And he made it happen
the first time failed that's all right the second time
pulled it off.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, that's that's exactly the thing with him. He doesn't
forget where he comes from and you know all of that,
Like I used to buy him plms him and his
little brother Oz, you know, and he'll still reach out
even before he left and became you know who everyone
knows him has. Today we went to a show together
Wu Tang and straight after school so we go to Wines.
(27:03):
He drops his school bag off. Two weeks later flies
out to America and becomes the kid ler Roy. He's
school back.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Still there, humble beginnings. Yeah, my brother will look I hope.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That all of you enjoyed this amazing year. I feel
like every time I sit down, especially with my own mob,
and just yarn about who we are, what we do,
things that you're getting up to, and I'm sure there's
a lot more.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You can listen to Nookie Sunday nights on Blackout and
I love it. What is it playing tunes when you're lapping.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
You just lapping the streets?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Something tag line that was.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Just like this is like one of my older brothers
having a yarn. So if you haven't had listened to
Sunday Nights predominantly averaged on music, and all those names
that you just read it off, I'm pretty sure that
you probably you.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Play them on Triple Jay.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Otherwise, jump online and hit this brother up solid.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So thank you for coming in. Thank you, I've being
part of this amazing podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah. Well again, like black as Women existed, ones for
people like your nan and your dad and that log
I never met your old men, but everywhere it's Uncle
Tiger was the man. You know, solid reputation everywhere, so
it's mad if I only get the link with you mob,
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Thank you full circle. So look on that note, I
hope you've enjoyed this episode. Until next time.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Bye for now. If you'd like.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Any more on today's guest, please visit our show notes
in the episode description. A big shout out to all
you Deadly Mob and allies who continue to listen, watch,
and support our podcast. Your feedback means the world. You
can rate and review the podcast on Apple and Spotify,
or even head to our socials and YouTube channel and
(28:55):
drop us a line.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The Black Magic Woman podcast is produced by Clint Curtis.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
They did to both s
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