Scientology Millionaire Members are also Scientology Spies - Secrets of Scientology #7 - Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

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SPEAKER_05 (00:27):
Hey everybody, welcome back to Blown for Good.
Welcome to another episode ofBlown for Good Scientology
Exposed.
We are, oh, it says we're havinga destination issue.
Hopefully that's not on YouTube.
I'm joined today by my lovelywife, Claire.

SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
Hey, hey, hey, everybody.
Happy Sunday.
Thanks for joining us this fineweekend.

SPEAKER_05 (00:50):
We have all kinds of exciting stuff to sh to share
this week.
We did a video a few weeks agoabout how Scientology's
organizations are pretty muchempty all around the world
except for in Florida at theirClearwater facility, FLAG, as
it's known known toScientologists.

(01:13):
And we talked about how theyhave all these heavy, these big
donors that are just donatingmoney for nothing.
They're getting a trophy,basically, and they get status
within Scientology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Right.
When it's actually againstpolicy written by L.
Ron Hubbard to even fundraise inthe first place for Scientology.

SPEAKER_05 (01:53):
Yeah.
So they used to have thismembership that you would have
to pay each year to be inScientology.
And you would pay thatmembership fee to the
International Association ofScientologists.
And I want to say it was like inthe early days, it was like a a
couple hundred bucks a year or ahundred dollars a year,

(02:16):
something like that.
And then they changed it to alifetime membership.
And a lifetime membership waslike$2,000 or$5,000.

SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
Yeah, I think it was $5,000, yes.
And then the only value thatthat membership afforded you
was, I want to say it was a 20%discount on training services
and counseling.

SPEAKER_05 (02:39):
Yeah.
So if you were a Scientologist,it was almost required that you
have a lifetime membership andthen you'd get this discount.
But nobody was paying thenon-discount price because
everybody is a member of the IASfor the most part.

SPEAKER_01 (02:55):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (02:55):
Okay.
So in the late 1980s, um DavidMiscavige kind of tweaked that a
little bit.
And he said, Hey, listen, if yougive forty thousand dollars,
then you're a patron of the IAS.
And so that's what they werepushing, patron, patron, patron.

(03:16):
And then they started having allthese gazillionaires that were
like, Well, I I uh you know, Ihave a little bit more money,
they'd like, hey, maybe we makeanother level.
And so they kept kind of doingthat on and on and on and on.
And every few years they justadd more things.
Yes.
So you could give more money.
And even if that person couldn'tgive like an exact denomination,
they just made whatever he, thathighest donor, made, they made

(03:40):
it a new level at whatever hisdonation level.
So you'll see when we go throughthe rest of the video how some
of this happens.

SPEAKER_00 (03:47):
Because no matter what you know about Scientology,
I'm sure uh it's well, if youknow anything, you know that
Scientology loves their labels.
They really do.

unknown (03:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
OT.
Yeah.
PTS, potential trouble source,suppressive person.

SPEAKER_05 (04:05):
Yeah, and then they have the same thing for patrons
and everything everything else.
Um okay, so so that's that.
So Tony Ortega, uh, of theUnderground Bunker, um, we'll
put a link in the videodescription of the the article
that we're talking about, but heposted this article last week on

(04:25):
his website, and it was abasically the s uh the pictures
from the IAS event in England.

SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
No, no, no, it was from the latest um impact
magazine.

SPEAKER_05 (04:36):
Yeah, but they shot all those pictures at the event.

SPEAKER_00 (04:39):
Yeah, maybe.
I'm not sure.
Well, they're from I thinkthey're from all different
places, but it's like the Impactmagazine is the magazine of the
International Association ofScientologists.
So um, I'm sure there were a lotof pictures included from the
event.
I don't know that that was theexclusive source, is my point.

SPEAKER_05 (04:58):
Yeah.
Well, you'll see they're alldressed up and they're against a
big, big backdrop.
And the podium of the event isin the middle of the screen
where they're putting theirchurch.

SPEAKER_00 (05:07):
Some of them, not all of them.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (05:09):
So the way it used to work was if you donated one
of these big amounts, it waspretty much guaranteed that you
would then get a picture withDavid Miscavige at the event on
the stage.

SPEAKER_01 (05:22):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (05:23):
And that's sort of how one of the ways they did
this.
And then also, if you were oneof those big muckety mucks and
you gave a big amount, well,maybe uh Tommy Boy, the
cruister, he would come in andhe you do you could also get a
selfie with him or somethinglike that.
Um, so there were perks.

SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
Not bad for a $500,000 donation.

SPEAKER_06 (05:48):
Yeah.
People at movie premieresgetting these selfies, they
haven't even given a penny.

SPEAKER_05 (05:53):
Just gotta go to a movie premiere.
Um, anyway, so he did thisarticle, so let's bring that up.
Okay, so the millionaires ofScientology.
Okay, so uh here it is.
So at the Patriots Ball, donorsof Celebrator have reached a new
cumulative goal and their totaloverall spending.

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This is called a status, andthey have fancy names like Gold
Meritorious.
That's for one million dollars,and patron laureate, ten
million.
It's like a game for rich peoplewho try to give in enough each
year to get to the next level.
Yeah.
That's pretty accurate.

SPEAKER_00 (06:33):
Scientology has given up on clearing the planet,
so they're just gonna focus onclearing the millionaires of
their money.

SPEAKER_05 (06:39):
It's not that they've given up.
It's physically impossible forScientology, financially
impossible for Scientology toexist if they don't have another
source of income.
Because doing Scientology, thenumbers don't number.
The math don't math.

SPEAKER_01 (06:55):
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (06:57):
Okay, so and and this thing came, I saw this on
Tony's site.
I get an email whenever he putssomething out, and I look at
them and I go, eh, and I pawthrough them.
But on this one, when we weregoing through it, I was like, I
know some of these folks.

SPEAKER_00 (07:13):
We know a bunch of them.
I always look through them tosee if any of our family members
are in there.
That's really the main reasonthat I check them.

SPEAKER_05 (07:20):
I mean, yeah, and we did a few weeks ago, um, one of
these lists were published orsomething like that.
And we did see, not one of ourfamily members, but we saw
somebody else's family memberthat we knew was disconnected,
and we saw them on the list.
It was like, oh geez.

SPEAKER_00 (07:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (07:38):
They're not doesn't look like they're getting out
anytime soon.

SPEAKER_00 (07:40):
No, though, mind you, uh an emptied bank account
is a surefire way to make youquestion what you're doing
there.
It's one of the one of the waysto question what what the heck
you're doing.

SPEAKER_05 (07:53):
And legitimately, oh, somebody's highlighting uh
quotes, probably Catherine.

SPEAKER_01 (07:59):
Yes.
Thank you, Catherine.

SPEAKER_05 (08:00):
Yeah.
Um these people, some of thesepeople are not actually able to
donate this amount of money.

SPEAKER_01 (08:10):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (08:10):
And there is a I actually have it in here, but
there was a guy who gave a tonof money, millions and millions
of dollars, and he got thisgiant globe trophy.
And um and that trophy issitting on the other side of
this table right now.
Yeah.
And I've got a few.

SPEAKER_00 (08:27):
I would bring it over here, but it's like 70
pounds.

SPEAKER_05 (08:30):
Yeah.
Uh I mean, I'm strong, but youknow, it's also been thrown
away, shipped across the UnitedStates two or three times.
It's a little banged up.

SPEAKER_01 (08:38):
Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_05 (08:39):
Anyway, so um I don't know which slide these
other people in here, but Iwanna uh if I see the name, I'll
uh but these are people, so thisone's patrons.
So that they took that 40,000and they just upped it to 50.

SPEAKER_01 (08:54):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (08:54):
Over the years.
They're like, hey, why do wehave 40?
40's lame.
Let's do 50.
So they just did that to 50.

SPEAKER_00 (09:00):
That way they don't have to use a calculator to
calculate the millions they'vecollected.

SPEAKER_05 (09:04):
Yeah.
And this is 100% at the event,guys.
Because all of these people aredressed up like they're at an
event.

SPEAKER_01 (09:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (09:11):
Okay.
And that is the stage backdropor a stage backdrop.
So um, all of the people inthese pictures above were people
that were at that event anddonated the$50,000.

SPEAKER_02 (09:25):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (09:25):
So you're not getting your picture if you
ain't there.
Right.
So they say we've done this amillion times.
When I used to produce theevents, it was okay, after the
event or uh the night of thepatron's ball, or whichever
night it was, one of thosenights in England, it would be
like, okay, we're gonna do allthe the pictures for impact.

(09:46):
All of the patrons, okay, let'sget you all together.
And then they go, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (09:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (09:52):
And this it did it depended on what the scheduling
was and all that nonsense.
But either way, you'd say, okay,all you guys come up and then
you go, oh, that's too many forone picture.
Let's get this group, let'sfigure you guys out.
Then we'll make another group,and how many other groups they
are, they'll do the pictures.
Yep.
So and also it's by family in alot of cases.

(10:13):
So if there's four members inthe family, it's 50k for the
four of them.
It's not not each person in thefamily get 50K.
Okay, so those are all patronsfor 50k.
Now this is patron meritorious,and this is$250,000.
And these are the pictures.
Well, this first picture, Iwent, huh?

(10:37):
Because in the picture on um I gI guess in the middle, um
there's Brooke, Jim, and BrookeOwen.
And anybody who's read my book,it was that was one of the
places I stayed when I was like14, and I I had moved out and I
was living at different people'shouses.

(10:59):
Jim and Brooke Owen were thesecond house that I lived at,
and I had to move because theyjoined the C organization.
Jim and Brooke Owen both joinedthe C organization.
Of course, um and the daughter'sroom that I was staying in, she
was at Delphi Oregon, aScientology school up in
Sheridan, Oregon.

(11:20):
And she was also in the Sea Org.
The only one who didn't join theSea Org was my friend Lauren,
who was their uh daughter.
And she never joined, I thinkshe ended up on staff in LA or
something like that.
But regardless, um Tara, Brooke,and Jim all joined the Sea Org.
They've all since left.

(11:40):
And I think Tara was kicked,either kicked out or routed out
of the int base.
I'm pretty sure she was kickedout.
She was an executive int public.

SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
Yeah, she was establishment executive
international.

SPEAKER_05 (11:52):
That's right.
And she got she didn't last upthere very long.

SPEAKER_00 (11:55):
Her husband lasted even less than she did.

SPEAKER_05 (11:59):
Yeah, now I think you're thinking of Brooke.
What was Brooke's post?
Because she was EEI too.
Or she was another exec in.
I can't remember which.

SPEAKER_00 (12:08):
I don't remember Brooke.

SPEAKER_05 (12:10):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
I think she was if she was at um the Int Gold Base,
it was before I got there.

SPEAKER_06 (12:16):
Right.
It was so quick.

SPEAKER_05 (12:25):
Okay.
Yeah.
Regardless, they they went, theykind of pop when I saw the
picture, I was like, I knowthose people.
And then I looked at the names,and I'm like, yep, that's them.

SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
Yeah.
And it's just crazy to commentthat, first of all, when you go
through these pictures, andthere's way more detail on
Tony's article.

SPEAKER_02 (12:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (12:42):
But it's crazy to me that they're so like they're
like, oh, this person's been amember of the International
Association of Scientologistssince 1984.
You're like, there's I think Iwas looking at the dates, and
they're not all included, butthe most recent one is from
2018.

(13:02):
Like the most recent member oflike joined the International
Association of Scientologists in2018.

SPEAKER_05 (13:10):
Of these people.

SPEAKER_00 (13:11):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (13:12):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (13:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (13:13):
Okay, so um, so that so that's that.
I also Tara, if I'm notmistaken, she went to the RPF,
and she was one of those peoplethat got sent to Australia to do
the RPF.
So she might have still stayedin the Sea Org.
I don't know about now.
It's been forever.
Yeah, it has.
Oh, it says right here in thecomments, Catherine Olsen.

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Tara Beanie ended up inAustralia with her husband.
Yeah.
So her husband was also at theant base, and they both got
vamoused.

SPEAKER_00 (13:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (13:45):
Um, don't let's yeah, let's not say anything
because it's it's uh it's a lot.
It's a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (13:52):
It's a whole other rabbit hole we'll get into some
other day.

SPEAKER_05 (13:55):
Yeah, it's too much, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (13:56):
It's uh got a laser focus here, folks.
We're gonna stay on topic.

SPEAKER_05 (14:01):
Yes.
Okay.
Um do are those other guys inthat other oh no.
Okay, so then there's thesepictures.
Now this is silver meritorious.
Okay, this is five hundredthousand dollars.
Um and this one's crazy becausethere is two people that were at

(14:24):
an SP party that we had in 2007.

SPEAKER_00 (14:27):
Yeah.
Okay.
And we go, well, wait, what?

SPEAKER_05 (14:31):
Yeah.
So we we we knew these people.
I knew the wife, uh, Kathy, andI Well, I think on the next one.
Okay, yeah, here.

SPEAKER_00 (14:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (14:42):
So that's that's Kathy.

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
Laser focused on who we're talking about here.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (14:46):
And Kathy was at the AMP base, and she was in uh part
of she was in a division ofGolden Era Productions called uh
PDU or PDO, the planet thePlanetary Dissem Unit or the
Planetary DisseminationOrganization, which is a
division of Golden EraProductions.
Basically, it's the marketingarm of Second Top.

SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
It changed that division changed names more than
any other singular division onthat property.
It was the Central MarketingUnited.
PDU, then the um Yeah, thePlanetary Dissem Unit.

SPEAKER_05 (15:19):
Yeah, PDU.

SPEAKER_00 (15:20):
Then the marketing division.

SPEAKER_05 (15:23):
Well, then yeah.
And then it was PDO.

SPEAKER_00 (15:26):
Planetary Dissemination Organization.
You gotta keep your acronymstraight, folks.

SPEAKER_05 (15:31):
And then it was the people never changed.
Their location kind of moved allover the place.

SPEAKER_01 (15:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (15:38):
Anyway, so they uh and then Richard Didcote, the
father, he was in Los Angelesand he worked at the Flag
Bureau.
And by the way, Kathy Didcote,um, she very rarely got to go to
LA.
And if she did, it was like whaton one of these, you know,
Saturday night come back earlySunday morning kind of things,
just spend the night down there.

(15:59):
Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
Yeah.
So pretty much for context, whatwe're talking about here is
Richard and Kathy were both inthe sea organization, starting
in the UK, and I don't know whenthey joined originally, but
definitely when I was when mymom joined the sea organization
when I was four years old in theUK, Kathy and Richard were

(16:20):
there.
So they've they've been aroundfor a long, long time.
They have a son, which is whyyou referenced the father, that
Mark and I both knew and werefriends with.

SPEAKER_05 (16:29):
He was our age.

SPEAKER_00 (16:30):
He was our age.
His name is Jamie.
I was in the cadet organizationwith Jamie in the UK.

SPEAKER_05 (16:37):
And then when I arrived at the Int Gold base and
you were there, he was thereworking in grounds or he was in
the in the um household unit,which is the people that mow L.
Ron Hubbard's grass.

SPEAKER_00 (16:50):
Yes, because you know, you have to have perfect
grass for the dead guy who'slate showing back up again.

SPEAKER_05 (16:56):
Yeah, but he but they had a separate the
international headquarters, 500acres.
It's probably a lot of thoseacres are grass.
And they have for Golden AirProductions has a grounds unit
and they mow 99% of the grass.

SPEAKER_00 (17:16):
And let's not forget, this is in the middle of
the desert.

SPEAKER_05 (17:19):
Yes, it is in the middle of the desert where it's
not easy to grow grass.

SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
It is not.
In fact, most of the surroundingarea is brown.

SPEAKER_05 (17:27):
Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 (17:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (17:29):
Anyway, so they have a separate unit, a separate
grounds unit that has differentmowers and different equipment
and different location than theregular grounds unit.
And those are the people thatmow the grass around El Ron
Hubbard's properties.
So Bonnieview, which was themansion up there, and the star

(17:51):
of California ship, the clippership that's in the middle of the
desert.
Also, not easy to have a clippership in the middle of the
desert.

SPEAKER_00 (17:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (17:59):
With a mast and a giant pool and everything.

SPEAKER_00 (18:02):
It was not seaworthy, but definitely not
seaworthy.

SPEAKER_05 (18:06):
It was it had run aground.

SPEAKER_02 (18:09):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (18:09):
Um, it was built into the mountainside, this
clipper ship.
It had a mast and a deck andeverything.
And it even had a uh it had atiller and and uh a wheel,
whatever that thing is.
Captain's wheel.

SPEAKER_01 (18:21):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (18:23):
Okay.
So even though they hadgroundspeople to mow all the
other lawns if you wanted to ifyou wanted to mow Elren
Hubbard's lawns, it had to beyou had to be one of these
special people to be able to mowthose lawns out of the case.

SPEAKER_00 (18:36):
You had to be a c a mess you had to be staff in the
Commodore's messengerorganization, Gold.

SPEAKER_05 (18:42):
Golden Era Productions, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (18:43):
So which is what Jamie was.

SPEAKER_05 (18:45):
Exactly.
All of that to say And actually,this is this is a wild twist in
this story, is I was doing acourse with Jamie called the Key
to Life Course.
He was my twin.

SPEAKER_00 (18:57):
So I'd do something yours truly was said supervisor.

SPEAKER_05 (19:01):
And I was trying to get him to go after old ginger
over here.
I was like, hey, what do youthink about this ginger?

SPEAKER_00 (19:08):
Dude, no.
I know.
Claire didn't go for it.
So I was like, okay, if youdon't want her, I'll take her.
Now listen, I knew him from thecadet organization.
I was trying to pretend likethat had none of that had ever
happened, and that I didn't havethat, you know, awful history
and background.
So I wanted nothing to do withanyone that I knew from that

(19:28):
prior lifetime.

SPEAKER_05 (19:30):
Yeah.
So needless to say, we knew allthese people.
We didn't know the father.
He worked in LA.
Kathy worked it in, and Jamieworked it in.

SPEAKER_00 (19:38):
Yeah.
And and Kathy, by the way, wasalways in trouble with David
Miscavige.

SPEAKER_05 (19:43):
Yeah, she was in the 1-800 unit.
That's right.
She was the one who would answerthe calls when um we had this
thing called the DianeticsHow-To Kit.
And there was a number in there.
Hey, if you want us to t helpyou do this Dianetic auditing
with somebody and you're havingsome problems, just call us and

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we'll we'll walk you through it.
That's where she worked.

SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (20:07):
And there was only like two people in there.
And the phones are ringing 24hours a day.
So sometimes these guys wouldhave to be on a night shift just
sitting there to wait for thephone to ring so they could
answer it.

SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (20:19):
She was one of those people.
Okay.
Now, we said most of thisalready.
Kathy and Richard from the UK.
Oh, this is Claire.
You can read all this nonsense.

SPEAKER_00 (20:28):
Yep.
So as I said, I knew Kathy andRichard from the UK and grew up
with their son Jamie and theCadet Organization.
In July 1991, Richard wasworking at the Hollywood
Guarantee Building, which is1710 Ivar Avenue on Hollywood
Boulevard.

SPEAKER_05 (20:42):
Or 6331 Hollywood Boulevard.

SPEAKER_00 (20:44):
Depending on your perspective, depending on which
corner you're standing on of thesame building.
When I was promoted to theinternational headquarters at
Gold Base in Gilman Hot Springs,Kathy was promoted there at some
point.
She she got there later than Idid, I think, but I think
somewhere in the early tomid-90s is when Kathy was moved

(21:05):
there.
At some point, Kathy and Richardboth left the C organization.

SPEAKER_05 (21:10):
Yeah, and I think she was offloaded in one of
those mass offload things.
Um, either because it was shewas part of the Deadwood crew
that they thought you gotthey're not worth keeping, let's
just get rid of them.
Or um they might have gotten alittle too old and they weren't
able to keep on a good schedule.
It could have been either or ofthose.

(21:31):
I think she was in the Deadwoodgroup, but I don't remember.
We have those lists, by the way,somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 (21:36):
Oh, we should go to that.

SPEAKER_05 (21:37):
It's in the uh spy files.
I think I even did a video withit.

SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
Nice.
Okay.
And then um so Mark and I so weget out of the we escape from
the sea organization.
Originally we were in LeeSummit, Missouri, and then by
the end of 2005, we were bothback in Los Angeles.
Yeah.
Okay.
So and I I was by that time Iwas pregnant with our first son.

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Anyhow, we had our first son inFebruary 2006.
And somewhere short with withinthe first year of our son being
born, uh, we used to go to thisdiner in Toluca Lake, Paddies.
California, Paddy's for brunchon Sundays.
It was like a an a nice routinethat we had.

(22:23):
Um, and we would take our littleguy in the car seat and go hang
out there.
So one day, randomly, who walksin is Kathy and Richard.
And it was like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_05 (22:36):
And they didn't live there.

SPEAKER_00 (22:38):
That's right.
They lived in Glendale.
They lived like 30 minutes away.

SPEAKER_05 (22:42):
We lived like four blocks away.
Yeah.
And they went to lunch over wayover here, which is kind of
rando.

SPEAKER_00 (22:50):
Yeah.
I mean, we were used to runninginto Scientologists there
because that was a hotbed localspot to Luca Lake was.
Yeah.
So we would see people prettyfrequently.
But they just showed up.
And and also, too, I will saythat most of the time when we s
ran into Scientologists, likethey would look the other way

(23:12):
and run the opposite direction.
If they knew.
If they knew.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (23:15):
We did run into the I don't know if I ever told this
story.
I might as well tell it now.
We're doing a video and it'sperfect.

SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
It is.

SPEAKER_05 (23:23):
So I was getting right across from Patty's, just
like a just on the other side ofthe street, a little bit further
down, maybe a half a block down.

SPEAKER_01 (23:31):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 (23:33):
There was a hairstylist uh uh a salon that
was owned by a Scientologist.

SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
Tamara de Hill.

SPEAKER_05 (23:42):
Yeah.
And I don't know what it wascalled, but it was in Toluca
Lake on Tamara de Hill Salon.

SPEAKER_00 (23:47):
Oh, okay, good.
Real original.

SPEAKER_05 (23:49):
And it's right on Riverside Drive there.
And next door there was a barbershop.

SPEAKER_00 (23:54):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (23:55):
And you had dropped me off.
We only had one car at thistime.
Yes.
You were pregnant with the case.

SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
So white Ford Focus.

SPEAKER_05 (24:00):
You were pregnant with Kale.

SPEAKER_00 (24:02):
Very pregnant.
I want to say I was like eightmonths pregnant.
Like you couldn't miss that Iwas pregnant if you tried.
It would hit you in the face.

SPEAKER_05 (24:09):
So you drop me off.

SPEAKER_00 (24:10):
But I didn't get out of the car.

SPEAKER_05 (24:11):
I okay.
Do you want me to tell thestory?

SPEAKER_00 (24:13):
Just commenting.

SPEAKER_05 (24:15):
You drop me off, and I go and get a haircut.
Then you go off to do someerrands.

SPEAKER_01 (24:20):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (24:21):
Now I get my haircut, I walk out, and as I'm
waiting for you, I just happento peek into the salon, and
right there, I see this Sea Orgmember from the Int base.
Her name was Kathy Katie KatiePaquette.
And Katie Paquette is gettingher hair d hair did and she's
got all the foil and all that init.

SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Wasn't she with somebody else too?

SPEAKER_05 (24:44):
She was, but I don't know if they were there at that
that place.
Okay.
If she was, I didn't know theother person.
I only knew her.
And um I give her a kind of athe a look like, hmm.
And she clearly sees that it'sme.
Now when she was at theinternational headquarters, I
was a big boss man.

(25:05):
And it was like I was a sir toher.
She was in the sales division ofGolden Air Productions, but she
had been sent to Los Angeles ona sales project, and she'd been
there for years and years andyears.
And and so when she was last atthe end base, I was there a big
muckety muck executive in GoldenAir Productions.
And now she's in LA for years,and now I'm not in a Sea Org

(25:28):
anymore, and we just livenearby.

SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (25:31):
And um so she gets really worked up.
Because you're not supposed tobe this is like on a Saturday or
like whatever day it was.
It was a day that Sea Orgmembers would not be at a salon
getting their hair did.

SPEAKER_00 (25:43):
Yeah.
Especially like far away fromyou know, the complexity
Scientologists' Sea Org memberslived nowhere in the world.

SPEAKER_05 (25:54):
No matter what, it was super weird that she was
there.
So now she is there for anotherI mean, she was right at the
end.
They were taking all the foilout and doing something when I
saw her.
So I'm standing there, and liketwo or three minutes later, she
runs out and she's like, Oh,sir, um, what are you doing
here?
And I was like, Oh, I was justgetting the haircut over there.

(26:15):
And uh and she's like, Oh mygosh, sorry.
Um, you know, we're on a sale.
She started explaining all thereasons why she was there.
Well, we're in a sales projectand we have to look good, so we
have to get our hair done everyonce in a while.
And I'm I'm thinking to myself,the fuck?
This is the dumbest excuse I'veheard.
But I'm not saying anything, I'mjust looking at her like, hmm.

(26:36):
And then um, she starts tellingme how well they're doing in Los
Angeles and all the thingsthey're getting, all the sales
they're doing.
And I said, Really?
And I said, What because I knewa lot of people had been sent to
LA that got they got rid of atthe base.
Right.
So I go, what is what's it likewith all those uh guys from the
base now being down in LA?
And she's like, Oh, it's kind ofweird because they don't

(26:59):
understand how like 50 peoplecould be um offloaded from the
base all at once.
And then she's explaining allthese things to me.
I say, how is there you've haveyou noticed new people showing
up?
And she's like, Yeah, KenMorton.
So she starts explaining all thenew people that have been
coming.

SPEAKER_00 (27:15):
And for context for people listening, so this was
like 50 people that were many ofthem had been in the C
organization for decades.

SPEAKER_05 (27:23):
They were on the the Apollo with L.

SPEAKER_00 (27:25):
Ron Hubbard, or you know, that that kind of and many
of them had been top executivesfor years, and now they'd been
like en masse shipped to LosAngeles and put on the lowest of
the low positions.
Like I want to say, uh KenMortenson, for example, had been
one of the top executives fordecades.

(27:48):
Yeah, and now he was a folderpage, meaning his entire job was
to carry folders back and forthbetween locations.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (27:57):
Anyway, so she sees me, she tells me all this stuff,
I ask her a few questions, andthen she basically gives me like
the lowdown of everything that'sgoing on in Los Angeles.
Now, I'm not in the Sea Org, butI do know people who give me
information and people talk tome, and so I had little bits
that I could kind of throw ather and she could tell me the

(28:18):
whole story.

SPEAKER_00 (28:18):
Yeah, and it's not like you misrepresented that you
were still in the seaorganization.

SPEAKER_05 (28:24):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (28:25):
I never that was her assumption, and we all that know
what that makes of her.

SPEAKER_05 (28:29):
Yeah.
Anyway, so then she pretty muchfinishes telling me everything.
I'm like, okay, well, well,there you go.

SPEAKER_00 (28:36):
And then um, let me insert my point of view.
Because I will never forget.
So I'm driving my little whiteforward focus and like, oh,
okay, it's time to circle backaround and pick up Mark from his
haircut.
And I just remember in slowmotion, pulling up, and you're
sitting on a bench in front ofthe barber shop with Katie

(28:56):
Paquette in Sea Org uniform.
I'm like, Oh, that's right.
That's right.
What the heck is going on?

SPEAKER_05 (29:02):
In her C org uniform as well.

SPEAKER_01 (29:05):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (29:06):
Which is super crazy.
And she just goes to some publicbarber shop and is all decked
out in her fake navy uh d dduds.

SPEAKER_00 (29:16):
Oh my goodness.
Anyway, sorry, I just had to addthat.
So Claire pulls up.
Small detail.

SPEAKER_05 (29:20):
Claire gets out of the driver's seat to get around
to the passenger seat.

SPEAKER_00 (29:24):
Because he because you're gonna take over driving.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (29:27):
And she is like eight months and twenty-nine
days pregnant.
And um, and Katie goes, what?
And she kind of does thisnumber.
And she goes, and basically sherealizes she she done messed up
a little there.

SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (29:44):
Or a lot that we're not in the Sea Org anymore.
And now she's just giving me allthe things.
And giving me all thisoperational info.
The best part is that she wentback and wrote a knowledge
report, and she left out thepart where she told me all this
stuff in the knowledge report.

SPEAKER_04 (30:03):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (30:04):
But uh she wrote a knowledge report on that and
sent it to OSAS just so they'dknow that I was jamming people
up for info when I saw them.
Okay.
Back to the back to the show.

SPEAKER_00 (30:15):
Yes.
Okay, so we randomly ran intoKathy and Richard at a diner in
Toluca Lake when our first sonwas not even a year old.
Kathy even attended our son'sfirst birthday party.
And yeah, they would come aroundto events.
And so I don't remember whetherit was Kathy or Richard, but I
remember that you one of themwas really wanted to talk to you

(30:37):
about Zenu.
Do you remember this?

SPEAKER_05 (30:40):
I don't remember this, but I do remember that I
kept asking them for Jamie'sphone number.

SPEAKER_00 (30:47):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (30:48):
And they would not give it to me.

SPEAKER_00 (30:50):
Yeah.
And they never talked about himeither.

SPEAKER_05 (30:52):
And they said he just he doesn't want anything to
do with any of this, and he'sdoing his own thing, and da da
da da da.

SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
Which at the time I took to mean that he was still
on the Kool-Aid subscription.

SPEAKER_05 (31:04):
No, he didn't want anything to do with Scientology.

SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_05 (31:09):
And so he was more on our frame of mind.

SPEAKER_00 (31:14):
Which, but then he even more would we anyway, yeah.
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (31:19):
So I was like, yeah, so give me his number.
And they were like, oh no, no.
Uh we'll we'll talk to him, andif he wants to give you his
number.

SPEAKER_00 (31:26):
We've got double Claire going on.

SPEAKER_05 (31:28):
Oh, I love it.
Perfect.
Um, anyway, more Claire thebetter.
More Claire, more fun.
Um anyway, so that was weird.
Yeah.
That they would never give usJamie's phone number.
And Jamie was the one we knew.
And these were like, you know, Iwould invite anybody to the SP

(31:48):
parties because I don'tdiscriminate.
I'm not a uh what an I'm not anageist.
I'm not like, hey, you're 10years older than me, you can't
come.

SPEAKER_00 (31:57):
No, and we were always we always prioritized
community and support oversuspicions of is this person a
spy or not?
Like whatever.
You know, that that at leastthat's my perspective.
Maybe you feel differently.

SPEAKER_05 (32:11):
No, I always would when we'd have these things, it
was we knew somebody there wasworking for us.

SPEAKER_00 (32:19):
So we always knew that we assumed that correctly.

SPEAKER_05 (32:22):
So and we would and it really depended on what
information we fed, and thenwhat information came back to us
is how we could find out okay,this person is the person.

SPEAKER_01 (32:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (32:34):
Anyway, and we had a few different ones of those over
the years.
For sure.
And then after we got the spyfiles, we we found out we were
right on everybody that we knew,and there was a few more that
we'd never ever even considered.

SPEAKER_01 (32:46):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (32:47):
Okay, so this is the party.
And I don't know if you can seethis.
Let me see if I can make us evensmaller, make the picture
bigger.
There you go.
But you got like Matt Pesch,Jeff Hawkins, my dad, Amy Scoby
is in the middle of the picturethere.
And then there's some otherpeople I covered up, but Sinar
Parman, he used to be L.

(33:08):
Run Hubbard's chef.

SPEAKER_00 (33:10):
Yes.
Rest in peace, Sanar.

SPEAKER_05 (33:12):
And um, and then you've got Kathy Didcoat, and
you've got Richard Didcoat rightin the middle there with the big
red arrows going to him.
You know, it's funny.
This is um Amy, the one rightnext to K Kathy with the label.
It looks like she's looking atthe arrow that I put there.
She's just randomly looking overher shoulder, and there's
nothing there.

SPEAKER_02 (33:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (33:31):
And um anyway, I am not in this picture because I'm
the one taking it.
Yep.
But if you if you look reallyclose on the side where Bernie
Headley is my dad, Fair Claireis just standing right behind
that uh TV bookshelf, and herhead is just barely popping out
of there.

SPEAKER_00 (33:49):
I didn't even see myself there.

SPEAKER_05 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, got the eagle eye there.
Um, anyway, so this is 2007.
Right.
Okay, so 2007, Kathy and Richardhave been in the Sea Org, kicked
out or routed out.
Now they're at an SP party, andthe next time we hear or see
anything about them, theirpatron gloratorious Maximus

(34:12):
Glutamus.
Yeah.
And they've given given$500,000.
The crazy thing to me about thisis they were in the Sea Org.

SPEAKER_01 (34:21):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (34:21):
They got kicked out, not in the Sea Org, or they left
because they couldn't be in theSea Org, or they didn't want to
be in the Sea Org, or whateverthe ex excuses were, or the
reasons were.
And now 20 years later, they'rethrowing$500,000 back to Dave.
Kathy knows that he's he's he'sa shit.

SPEAKER_00 (34:42):
She absolutely witnessed him physically abusing
staff like even Jeff Hawkins,who's right there with them,
with us at this party.

SPEAKER_04 (34:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (34:50):
Um, there's 100% absolute positivity that Kathy
witnessed David Miscavige beatup Jeff Hawkins.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 (35:00):
And now they're back in the fold again.
And it's it if you were if youwere a Scientologist and you had
no clue what went on in the SeaOrg, and you would just believe
all the hype, I could see maybethrowing them some bucks.

SPEAKER_00 (35:19):
If you're that gullible.

SPEAKER_05 (35:20):
Anything over a hundred bucks is too much.
Okay.
Exactly.
But then you get, yeah, this ispre-anonymous protests and all
that.
This is early.
This is like, I want to say it'sJanuary of 2007.
It is.
Because there's a Christmas treeup in the picture.

SPEAKER_00 (35:37):
Right, exactly.
No, in fact, you said I thinkthis was on my birthday.

SPEAKER_05 (35:42):
Yeah, you're right.
It was on January 2nd.

SPEAKER_00 (35:44):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (35:44):
Anyway, so either way, and this is not everybody
in the party.
I also wanted to say that.
This is in the middle of ourliving room, and if you turn the
opposite direction, there's awhole nother couch with all with
a bunch more people on it.

SPEAKER_02 (36:01):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (36:02):
Um, anyway, and we had a bar and we had a backyard,
and it was a this this was apretty cool spot that we landed
in.

SPEAKER_01 (36:09):
It was.

SPEAKER_05 (36:09):
Um, shout out Sean.
Anyway, so um, is there morepictures?
Oh, then there's the so soanyway, turns out they were OSA
spies.

SPEAKER_01 (36:20):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (36:21):
And we found that out later.
They were reporting everythingto OSA.
And the only reason I wanted tosay that was because there are
other high-value donors that areon that have been on these lists
that also used to be in the SeaOrg or the Guardians
organization, the Guardian'soffice.

(36:42):
Craig Jensen was one of theirfirst big muckety mucks that was
giving millions and millions ofdollars.
And he ended up um he was in theGuardian's office, and then he
started a software company, andthen he and and the software
they made, it was called Disc DFragger back in the uh early
days, and then it became part ofWindows, and they got a quarter.

(37:06):
Executive software, the companyhe made, got a quarter every
time a copy of Windows was sold.
So they made some they made somebuckaroonies on that one.

SPEAKER_00 (37:16):
For sure.

SPEAKER_05 (37:17):
And um, and there was another guy, Henning Helt,
who used to be in the guardian'soffice, and he ended up being a
high donor.
Uh Laura uh and Jessica Byrne, Imean uh Larry and Jessica Byrne
Burns ended up being big donors.
There was a lot of these peoplethat had either been in the Sea
Org or they'd been in theGuardian's office that ended up

(37:39):
being these big donors.
Right.
And then they became like, hey,if you want to work at my
company or if you want to dothis, you gotta, you gotta,
we're making tons of money, yougotta throw some back to the
Scientology.
And they started this kind oftrend among amongst the Muckity
Muck Richies in in uhScientology.

SPEAKER_01 (37:57):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (37:58):
Um, okay, so then this is just the rest of these
uh people that got silvermeritorious with honors, and
that's$750,000.
To me, it's just I mean Yeah, Ican't there's no fiber of my

(38:19):
being that thinks that thatwould be a good idea to give
them a penny.

SPEAKER_00 (38:24):
Right now that I know everything I know about
them, I would short circuit mybrain to but even when we were
in, like anyway.

SPEAKER_05 (38:36):
Anyway, yeah, so these are all these people.
Um I didn't recognize, Irecognized a few last names.
They could be related to peoplethat we knew or whatever.
Um and then this is goldmeritorious, one million
dollars.
And you just see that's that'ssix mil right there on the
screen.
Six mil.
Um or if yeah, I think these areeach one of these is kind of

(38:59):
like a family picture, um, acouple or a family, but that's a
million bucks right there.
So remember we in a if you ifyou don't remember, we we talked
about this in a last uh in a uha previous video that all of the
organizations in the world arerunning at a loss.
And the only organization thatthat was making any money was

(39:21):
the Clearwater location, and itmade about a million bucks a
week.

SPEAKER_01 (39:25):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (39:26):
And that million bucks is what supported
Scientology international,internationally.
So now they probably make two tothree million dollars a week,
most likely, if if not more.

SPEAKER_00 (39:38):
Maybe, maybe, or maybe less.

SPEAKER_05 (39:40):
Well, either way, that is the organization that
makes all the the doubt.
So here you have these guys aregiven a million bucks a pop for
nothing.
And all of this money goes intothis thing Scientology calls the
war chest.
And they never spend the theprincipal, they only spend the

(40:02):
interest earned from this giantmega fund that they have.
They they only spend theinterest, they never spend any
of the uh principal or any ofthe money that they've uh
deposited.
Okay, there's more, guys.
There's more.
There's gold meritorious withhonors, and now this is one of
those ones where it was like itwas a million bucks for gold,

(40:24):
and then this guy gave 1.75, andthey're like, well, we're gonna
cap it right.
Or some guy did.
It's just like, but that's notan even denomination.
It's like, it's okay, this guygave 1.75.
We're throwing him a meritoriouswith honors.
I'm gonna put a little you know,just a little top that up there
right there.

SPEAKER_00 (40:44):
Oh my gosh.
I do wonder if he if there'ssome special little ribbon on
that giant 80-pound paperweightspot right there.

SPEAKER_05 (40:52):
That's the one we have.

SPEAKER_00 (40:53):
Really?

SPEAKER_05 (40:55):
That's it.
Look at it.

SPEAKER_00 (40:56):
You want me to go get it?

SPEAKER_05 (40:58):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (40:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (40:59):
Should I get it?
70 pounds.
I'm gonna get it.
I'm gonna get it.

SPEAKER_00 (41:02):
You want me to get it?
I'll get it.
I don't want you to throw yourpack out.

SPEAKER_05 (41:05):
Um, I don't want to.
I don't want everybody to seethat I can't lift anything more
than a pregnant woman.

SPEAKER_00 (41:11):
Honey.
Oh my gosh.
Well, you should have at leastput the camera on me.
Here.

SPEAKER_05 (41:17):
The second button from the top.

SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
Oh, yay, I hit the right button.
Okay.
Oh my goodness.
Here we go.
This is a complete train wreck,guys.
He's gonna need a month ofchiropractor appointments after
this.
He should have let me do it.
Okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_06 (41:34):
Look at this, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (41:37):
It's literally 70 pounds.
Oh my goodness.
Don't hurt yourself.

SPEAKER_06 (41:43):
Here goes the world.

SPEAKER_00 (41:46):
The world fell off its axle.
Too bad, so sad.
Oopsies are bad, but we justwanted you to see.
We have all kinds of um, what doyou call them, chotch keys in
our studio here, and that is oneof them.
Anyway, yeah, there you go.
70 pounds of nonsense.

(42:06):
Can you imagine getting that for1.75 million dollar donation?
That's just crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (42:14):
You almost have to make a shelf for it because it's
so heavy, you can't just put iton any regular shelf.
It's gonna rip, rip it right outof the wall.

SPEAKER_00 (42:22):
Oh my goodness.
We'll need a pedestal for itright there.

SPEAKER_05 (42:25):
Yeah, we'll put it back there somewhere, maybe.
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (42:31):
I told you you should have let me do it, honey.

SPEAKER_05 (42:33):
Okay, there we go.
It does weigh a lot, guys.
It's it's solid.
It's solid steel.
Anyway, it's basically thesilver version.
Let's see if these guys, thegold meritorious.
Yeah, I guess I don't know whatthey have.

SPEAKER_01 (42:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (42:49):
Anyway, gold meritorious, there's more.

SPEAKER_00 (42:52):
But wait, there is more.

SPEAKER_05 (42:54):
Platinum meritorious.
And that's 2.5.
2.5.
Can you imagine having$2.5million?

SPEAKER_00 (43:05):
And giving it to a dangerous and abusive cult.

SPEAKER_05 (43:07):
That's wild.

SPEAKER_00 (43:09):
Yeah.
No.

SPEAKER_05 (43:09):
Anyway, this is how, if you look at all these people,
this is how they're not hurtingfor dough.
They have, and the IES is whatpays for the attacks against
Scientology, whether it'spsychiatry or psychology or SP
or hate websites on, you know,500.

SPEAKER_00 (43:31):
How many hate websites are there again?
Didn't you put together a listat some point?

SPEAKER_05 (43:34):
It's thousands.

SPEAKER_00 (43:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:36):
Or the domains that they own.
Yeah.
Thousands and thousands.
Scientology ownswhoisronuscavige.com.
Today.
Ron Miscavige passed away yearsago.
Rest in peace, Ron.
And he has a website, and or nota web, he has well, he does have
a website, but he has anypossible domain that if you

(43:56):
search, it points to that domainthat's.
Scientology has.
And so do we.

SPEAKER_00 (44:02):
Yeah, you actually we have multiple because the
primary one is who is MarkHeadley.
However, if you type in who isClaire Headley, goes to the who
is Mark Headley.

SPEAKER_05 (44:13):
Oh bam.
You know what I always say,guys?
If you ain't got a sight, youain't doing it right.
Or do I say if you got a sight,you're doing it right.

SPEAKER_00 (44:24):
Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 (44:25):
Either one.
Get a sight.
Um, okay.
Platinum meritorious.
Diamond meritorious.
Five million smackaroos.
Going right into Scientology'sbank account.

SPEAKER_00 (44:39):
Yep.
Funding hate on a planetarybasis.

SPEAKER_05 (44:42):
I get it.
See, they've got the sametrophy, but theirs has got a
crystal on the top.

SPEAKER_00 (44:47):
Oh wow.
That's like I mean, that's aWhat's that like a hundred bucks
from China?

SPEAKER_05 (44:51):
No, no, no.
That's I'd say that's a I'd saythat's a five to ten thousand
dollar trophy right there.
These trophies are not cheap.
We used to have to make them forthe events because we had to
make all those trophies that wegave out.

SPEAKER_01 (45:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (45:05):
And that was taken care of by the PR, IMPR
International Management PR forthe for the regular events.
And then the IAS people, theythey have all their own stuff to
do this.
But they use sometimes they theygo through people in other
organizations to help them out.

SPEAKER_06 (45:22):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (45:22):
Um is there another one?
Okay, no.
This so this was on TonyOrtega's substack, uh, the
underground bunker.

SPEAKER_00 (45:28):
Um, the millionaires, am I remembering
correctly that the first personwho reached 2.5 million was Tom
Cruise.

SPEAKER_06 (45:39):
I I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 (45:40):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw that on in Tony's
article.
I'll have to double check myfacts on that.
But either way, it's insanity.
Like five million dollars.
Yeah, of course he's given waymore than that.
No, this was back in like theearly 2000s that this that these
Uber levels were created.
Um, yeah, anyway, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (46:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (46:01):
Absolute craziness.

SPEAKER_05 (46:02):
Okay, so that's it.
Yeah.
I guess we have another video toshow.

SPEAKER_00 (46:08):
Well, hold on.
We do we want to do a fewquestions before we play our
final video and talk about ourupcoming March 11th.
Okay, awesome.
You know what I mean, JellyMean?
Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_05 (46:20):
Okay, here we go.
This better work.
Hopefully you guys can hearthis.
This is not normally how I dothis.

SPEAKER_00 (46:50):
When the Aftermath Foundation was formed, Jump took
the opportunity to continue ourefforts to help people start
their life.
It's incredibly important.
To me personally, as someone whowas born into Scientology and
honestly never imagined I wouldbe able to have the life I
always had dreamed of.
Being able to start over wasincredibly useful universally.

(47:14):
And so to afford thatopportunity to others is
absolutely something I am deeplyexcited to.

SPEAKER_03 (47:20):
There's never really been uh any smooth way for
someone to leave Scientology.
They're standing for theindividual in Scientology who's
being used.

SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
Yes.
Thank you, Mitch Brisker, foryour assistance with this
awesome work.

SPEAKER_05 (48:06):
Nice, awesome.
So that's a little promotionalvideo that we had, so we thought
we'd play it.
And then that's also um gonnakind of play at the event.
And so what we're gonna do,because some people were asking,
um, hey, what about a livestream?
How are we gonna do this?
And so what we're gonna do iswe're gonna do a live stream uh

(48:30):
before the event.
And I'm gonna see if I can maybeuh pre-record a video where I
walk around and show everybodywhat's there, and then um where
the event's gonna be and allthat good stuff.
And then we're gonna set up in aroom there live, and then we'll
have some of the people that areattending, and as maybe four or

(48:52):
five people, and um possiblysome other guests that we don't
know exactly if we're gonna beable to work this with them yet,
and then we will um do that, andthen it's a show really.
Um so, and it's not gonna be aScientology themed comedy show,
it's just gonna be a comedyshow.

SPEAKER_01 (49:11):
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (49:11):
So, for that part, we're not gonna show that, and
then we might do a lot, um, wemight go live a little bit
after.
We'll dep the we'll see.
I I was trying to do it, I wasdoing some tests, and it doesn't
really look that great if you'redoing it on just your phone in
terms of the live.
So I was with the platform thatwe use.

(49:32):
So um so we'll see.
We're gonna try to do it.
We're gonna try to show peopleas much as we can, but you will
be able to participate in theonline auct the silent auction
online.
Yes, regardless of whetheryou're seeing what's happening
at the event.
But we're gonna do a live.

SPEAKER_00 (49:48):
Yep, absolutely.
And on the aftermathfoundation.org website, if you
go to the newsletter page, youcan sign up to receive email
notifications.
We will be sending outreminders.
We sent out the link today forthe online auction itself.
It's still being populated, butthat will go live the day

(50:09):
before, and it will close um onMarch 13th at 11 59 p.m.
Nice.
Yes.
So, um, and yes, we will berecording the event simply
because this is the first timewe're doing an event like this.
Um, there are just a lot ofvariables.
So we figured that the prepre-event live stream would be

(50:32):
the best to involve those whocan't attend in person in the
behind the scenes.
And, you know, again, weappreciate all the support.
Um, we're really looking forwardto seeing everyone who can
attend.
But if you can't, that's okay.
You can join the live stream.
And also, you can, if youhaven't subscribed to this
channel, definitely do sobecause those notifications will

(50:55):
be coming out from YouTubebefore that live stream.

SPEAKER_05 (50:58):
Yeah, an apostate Alex says word of advice.
If you're going to stream fromyour phone, StreamYard sucks.
Yes, that's what I was justsaying.
Do it straight through theYouTube app.
Oh, that's a good point becauseit doesn't that's not putting
all those video filters andlayers on it.
Okay, I'll try that.
That sounds like a great idea.

SPEAKER_00 (51:13):
Thank you, Alex.

SPEAKER_05 (51:15):
Um, okay, you want to do some questions?

SPEAKER_00 (51:17):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (51:18):
Doing it.
This is any stods questions.
Okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_00 (51:24):
All right, Vernon after Jehovah's Witnesses.
Hello, I just became a monthlysupporter of the Aftermath
Foundation.
For supporters, will there be alive stream for the March 11th
show?
Thank you so much, Vernon.
We greatly appreciate yoursupport.
And yes, as we just covered, wewill do a pre-event live stream
and we will be recording theevent, and so that way, you

(51:44):
know, down the down the line,depending on how all that turns
out, we can probably turn thatmake use of that footage.
So there you go.

SPEAKER_05 (51:52):
This was a comment.
It's a funny comment.
I just wanted to show it becauseJapan of Green Gables.

SPEAKER_00 (51:58):
Hi Claire.
Did you and Mark survive thetime change?
I don't know, did we?

SPEAKER_05 (52:03):
We did, because we don't have to work 120 hours a
week.
But I will tell you this when wewere in the Seor.

SPEAKER_00 (52:10):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_05 (52:11):
And we lost the now.

SPEAKER_00 (52:13):
It was devastating.

SPEAKER_05 (52:14):
It was basically like a gut punch.

SPEAKER_00 (52:16):
It seriously was a gut punch.

SPEAKER_05 (52:17):
And it was always on Sunday.

SPEAKER_00 (52:19):
So you would you would So not only do you
normally have three hours, onlythree hours to do all your
laundry, clean your room, andprepare yourself for a white
glove inspection, which if youflunk is just really humiliating
and embarrassing.
Not only that, but during springback, that three hours, if

(52:41):
you're lucky, gets cut to twohours if you're lucky it was.
And then conversely, duringfall, when we gain an hour, be
like, oh, except that most mostoften we would just have to stay
later.

SPEAKER_05 (52:57):
That's exactly right.
When they would the time wouldgo when we get it gain an hour,
they'd be like, Well, everyone'sgonna work till one tonight
instead of midnight, or youknow, whatever.
It was like generally accepted.
Like, hey, we're getting anextra hour of production, so you
need to stay later.
You're like, no, we're gettingan extra hour of sleep.
It happens in the night whilewe're sleeping, not now.

SPEAKER_00 (53:17):
Oh my goodness.
You never get the good end ofus.
Yeah, no, no doubt.
Uh, Prina, evening everyone.
Hope you've all had a great dayfrom Reading UK.
Good to see you, Petrina.
Trevinon, good evening from theNetherlands.
Binebeck, hello everyone.
What's the Sitch on the livestream?
Yes, we've covered that.
Thank you for asking.

(53:39):
Uh hello from Tuolummy.
Hello, everyone from MontanaNecessary Trouble.
Angela, hi all.
Happy Sunday evening fromFrance.
Nice.
Thank you for joining us.
Old Techie, hi from Nebraska.
Good to see you.

SPEAKER_05 (53:55):
Yes, thank you very much, Bruce.
We saw what uh came in thisweek.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (54:00):
Super appreciative.
Clara, hi from the highway.
Happy Sunday, folks.
Yes, yay.
If you can still, if you'reanywhere in the in Colorado and
able to make the the event, wewould love to see you there.
Betsy Sue, greetings fromCameron, North Carolina.
Good to see you.
Hello from Auckland, NewZealand, nice.

(54:23):
Japan at Green Gables, hellofrom New Brunswick, Canada.
Angela, oh yeah, we did thatone.

SPEAKER_02 (54:29):
Oh from France?

SPEAKER_00 (54:31):
Satan's thaton, yes.
Hello from London, folks.
Nice.
Satan's thaton.
Yeah.
Not today, Thayton.
Hi from the Netherlands.
Good to see you, Anita.

SPEAKER_05 (54:44):
Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_00 (54:46):
Okay.
Trevon.
Google tells me theInternational Association of
Scientologists, IAS, offers afree six-month trial, followed
by$250 annually or$5,000 forlifetime memberships.

SPEAKER_05 (55:01):
There you go.
Yeah, that sounds about right.

SPEAKER_00 (55:03):
Yeah, when we uh when we were at least speaking
for me, when I was moved to theinternational headquarters, I
was given a lifetime membership.

SPEAKER_05 (55:14):
Well wow.
Another thing they do is theygive the children of celebrities
our gifted lifetime membershipsfor their for their for the for
the kids.

SPEAKER_00 (55:27):
David and Shelly Miscavige, yes.

SPEAKER_05 (55:29):
Right.
Which is a plastic credit card.
It cost them nothing.

SPEAKER_00 (55:33):
Yeah, Ella Blue Travolta when she was born.
Marion Pow, who was the PRperson in Religious Technology
Center, that was Ella's gift.
Welcome to the world and welcometo your lifetime of uh being a
Scientologist.
December Topaz, happy Sundayfrom West Virginia.

(55:55):
Howard, hello from Devon,England.
Nice.
Betsy Sue, question Do they nothave the Freedom Magazine
anymore?

SPEAKER_05 (56:04):
They do, but they really only do special editions.
Like when some they don't theyused to have regular magazines,
but those people have all beenuh excommunicated and and gotten
rid of.
So now if they have a specifictarget that they want to do,
like at Eli Lilly or theHeadleys or something like that,

(56:28):
then they do a special issuejust for them.
We are on the cover.
We have a cover issue offreedom.
So put it there.
Put it down.

SPEAKER_01 (56:37):
Boom.

SPEAKER_05 (56:38):
Um doing it right, folks.
Yeah, so they still do them, butthey're they're kind of just
really uh targeted on a specificthing.

SPEAKER_00 (56:45):
Yeah.
Angela, qu a question if topic,but did you keep any mat
mannerisms from your time in thecult?
Saw an interview with Amy Scobyand Liz Ferris where Liz said
she still white gloved herhouse.

SPEAKER_06 (57:00):
But I never heard that.
No, we ain't white glovingnothing.

SPEAKER_00 (57:05):
No, no.
Uh yeah, no.
I mean, we've talked we'vetalked before about how
specifically we work to not wework to drop the language as the
very first thing when we firstgot out.
Um you know, and we do, I mean,we're Mark and I both have
businesses, so we work a lot.

SPEAKER_05 (57:27):
Yeah, we work.
We have a good worth work ethic.

SPEAKER_00 (57:31):
We're not we're not um We don't we definitely I
would say the opposite is true.
We very like we don't tell tellgo to our kids, hey, you need to
white glove your room.

SPEAKER_06 (57:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (57:42):
Hell no, they've never even heard that word.

SPEAKER_06 (57:43):
Mostly it's just like clean up and don't have
anything on the floor.

SPEAKER_00 (57:46):
Stop leaving food in your room.
But we don't we don't useScientology terms at all.
The opposite is true.
And the only time thatScientology creeps into our
language is when we're talkingwith former members because you
it I don't know, it's like forme, it's you can switch over.

SPEAKER_05 (58:04):
I can switch over.

SPEAKER_00 (58:05):
Yeah, I don't but I don't do it intentionally.
It's just that when you knowsomebody understands what you're
saying, you kind of just likestop uh I don't know.
I do it to describe it.

SPEAKER_05 (58:15):
I do it to troll, really, when we're with
somebody.
Like if I'm with somebody andthen they do something and I'll
be like, oh my god, what devtea?
Why are you doing this?
And then they laugh because it'sfunny.

SPEAKER_00 (58:27):
Yeah, or you do it to me all the time.
So in Scientology, there'scalled counterintention.
Like if you're doing somethingthat you're not following orders
exactly, um, and that is, ofcourse, as everything is in
Scientology abbreviated.
CI.
So the abbreviation is CI.
So Mark sometimes will be.

SPEAKER_05 (58:43):
No, no.
But the Europeans inScientology, for some reason, if
you say you have counterintentions, that's uh
counterintentions.
But in America, we just say youhave CI.

SPEAKER_01 (58:56):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (58:57):
But in Europe, they say you have CIs.

SPEAKER_01 (58:59):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (59:00):
So I usually say it with a Schwarzenegger accent.
I go, I don't want your CIs.

SPEAKER_00 (59:05):
He does that to me, folks.

SPEAKER_05 (59:06):
Leave L C i's at the door.
You've got to work harder.

SPEAKER_00 (59:10):
Oh boy.

SPEAKER_05 (59:12):
Who's your daddy and what does he do?
Okay.
Um what's this?
That's the one we just showed.
Okay, good.
Um this is funny, but it neverhappened.

SPEAKER_00 (59:22):
Japan of Green Gables.
Did Davey stand at the wheel andpretend he was steering the
clipper?
No, but I think the wheel is inthat famous RTC photo, one of
the few photos of all the RTCstaff with Dave and Shelley.
Isn't the wheel in the middle ofthat?

SPEAKER_05 (59:36):
Yeah, it's in the RTC picture.

SPEAKER_00 (59:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (59:39):
That's also where they have a picture.
Um, somebody sent me a pictureof uh from one of the hate sites
where I'm playing ping pong.
It's right where that pictureis.
Right, it's like right behindwhere they shot that picture, is
where the ping pong table usedto get set up for Sea Org Day.

SPEAKER_01 (59:55):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (59:57):
Yeah, they're trying to make a case that my life was
perfect because for one hour ofone year out of 15.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:04):
They got to play ping pong.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:06):
Played a mad game of ping pong.
So how could he be so bad off ifhe got to do some ponging?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:12):
In 1992, folks, he got to ride on a jet ski.
Surely that means everything waswonderful.

SPEAKER_06 (01:00:18):
Here's Alex.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:19):
Postate Alex question
powerful OTs just postulate aworld where they've cleared the
planet and there there's no moreSPs?
Maybe it's because cause overmest isn't real.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:32):
In the C org, they have this thing which is we
define a Sea Org member the waywe define an OT.
Cause over matter, energy,space, and time.
And so theoretically, betweenthe C org members and the OTs,
they should just be able to likeAnd they do have a thing in
Florida where if they have a bighurricane coming, they they they

(01:00:57):
send out one of these emailblasts to everybody.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:59):
OT powers activate.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:01):
They do.
They're like, hey, you got toput your intention on this storm
and make it go another way.
Send it to Georgia.
Send it to Kinchamaica.
Do not send it to Clearwater.
And they do a thing.
They really do this, guys.
They really are like, everybodyneeds to postulate that this
hurricane takes a turn and don'thit Florida.

(01:01:23):
Don't hit Clearwater.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:24):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:25):
Can go to Orlando, that's not a problem, but it
can't hit Clearwater.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:28):
That's right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:29):
Oh, if you're if you're out there and you used to
be one of these people, you canyou could in the bloopita bloops
down there in the comments.
This is a real thing thatthey're it is.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:38):
It really is.
It's and that's why it'slaughable in retrospect.
Anyway.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:46):
Oh, yeah.
Look at this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:47):
Trevanon, you'd be like, stop being so J and D
Trevenon.
Joking and degrading.
Mind you, I think Mark inthoroughly enjoys joking and
degrading.

SPEAKER_05 (01:01:58):
Oh, it's the best.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:00):
It's the best.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:02):
Um let's see what else.
Thank you for yeah, we theEurope.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:07):
Angela, thanks so much for the Europe friendly
live streams.
Just love joining the chat andlistening to you, both Claire
and Mark.
Thank you, Angela.
And yes, we uh, you know, we'retrying to get back to our
regularly scheduled programming.
We will have a bump coming up inthe future.
Um, but I'm excited to say thatduring that bump, we will keep

(01:02:31):
our programming going with a newseries that I'm working on
called Cult Survivors.
Um, which anyway, so if you haveinterest in being interviewed
for that series, it's notdedicated to Scientology, but
draws parallels and comparisons.
So far, it's been fascinating,and yeah, so it will generate
more content coming soon.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:53):
Yeah, here's the these gets some good comments
about the weather here.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:56):
Okay, one love.
That's why it was your faultthat the flood happened.
It's wild.
Yes, exactly.
And of course, that's inreference to the August 1990
flood at the internationalheadquarters, where the in every
single staff member was assigneda condition of confusion because
God forbid.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:16):
We caused the God did not forbid.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:18):
Yeah.
David Miscavige's birthing wasflooded.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:22):
Well, no, it was really Tom Cruise's future
little luxury condo that theywere building that they had just
basically finished.
It was completely filled withmud.

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:33):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:34):
And um anyway, they were like, You guys didn't stop
the precipitation.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:41):
You have CI's.

SPEAKER_05 (01:03:43):
Oh, here's a good one.
Oh my gosh, Bruce, this isperfect.
I totally forgot about this.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:48):
At the Battle of Portland trial, they had a row
of OTs operating Thetans tryingto influence the judge with
their staring eyes.
I'm telling you, guys, theyreally should do a video of that
with like, you know, the laserbeams on the on the judge.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:06):
That's a great like they thought they were they
thought they were one of theboys, and they'd stand outside
the courthouse.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:12):
It's like a weird zombie version of Care Bears,
you know, like with their beams.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:17):
Go, go power thetans.

SPEAKER_06 (01:04:23):
Who does that?
Who does the um the singing onthat, uh, Alex?
Um and Alex's uh Alex the pastaintro video.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:33):
It's hilarious.
If you haven't seen it, go seeit.
It's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:36):
BT powers are way better than OT powers.
100% because they get shit done.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:42):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:43):
None of this her we're not wasting it on her
retains.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:47):
Nope, nope, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:49):
Um that's Alex and his mom singing, Catherine says.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:54):
That's I mean, I mean Wow, Alex and Oh, here it
is right here.

SPEAKER_05 (01:04:58):
See?
Aha, the singing gets me and mymom.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:01):
Wow, that's off to you.
You and your mom, Alex.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:04):
Good job.
I love that.
It's one of the best.
Uh Trevanon's charging hislasers.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:09):
I'm a charge of my lasers.
Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:12):
Okay, here's a good one.
We got some feedback already.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:14):
Nice.
Cult Survivor sounds like agreat series.
Let's just hope Lloyd Evansdoesn't try to get his big old
hooter in it, though.
No one needs that.
Okay.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:23):
Does he have some controversy attached to him?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:25):
I believe so.
I to be honest, I don't know thedetails, but yes, no, I'm not,
I'm not looking to um andactually it's new voices.
Exactly.
And new uh, yeah, anyway.

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:37):
And not just Scientology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:39):
And special thank you to Clara for this idea, by
the way, um, and for kind ofhelping me get this off the
ground.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:47):
Yeah.
No, definitely not Scientology.
In fact, the contrary, becausethe to me, um, when you brought
in the topic, you there's somuch to be learned on the
similarities and the controlmechanisms and how You know,
just good people can get luredinto situations like this.
So that's the per that's thepoint.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:08):
Perfect.
Yep.
Um, okay.
Well, I think we did it.
I know we got a uh a lot ofcomments.
We did a the video we did lastweek with Amy and Matt um went a
little long.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:20):
And we got a ton of comments that people are like,
yeah, longer.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:23):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:23):
Longer.
We want longer.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:25):
Yes.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:25):
So we'll we'll try to do that, guys, if if that's
what works.
Um, oh, here's another one.
Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:31):
Okay.
Angela, please try and getAmanda Ray from the Order.
Okay, good, awesome.
We'll get on that.
Thank you for the suggestion.

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:39):
Yeah.
Hey.
Um, okay, Doki.
Oh, here's another one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:44):
Japanic Green Gables.
I remember Jackson said thatafter David Miscavige freaked
out at everyone about the flood,he went back to his apartment
and played Nintendo.
Yeah, for sure.
That's true, David Miscavigestyle, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:06:57):
You know what though?
David Miscavige likes him someMario Kart.
I know this first hand.
Firsthand.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:03):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:04):
Mario Kart.
What's the other one I thinkthey liked?
They had a Wii.

unknown (01:07:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:09):
They had a set it up for them multiple times.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:14):
It was before the Wii.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:15):
It was before we.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:16):
They had a uh N NS, Nintendo NS or whatever they
called it back then.
Had cartridges, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:24):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:25):
Um okay.
I think we're good.
Oh, did you say cult to c I sawcult to consciousness on there?
Somebody said, oh, I missed it.
It's gone forever.
Oh, here it is.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:35):
Uh Cults to Consciousness does an excellent
job.
Yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 (01:07:38):
Is that Shiliansola?

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:41):
Yeah, she does a great, great job.
And yeah, we're not um again,it's just conversations and
drawing parallels specifically,I think can be very helpful.
Like we I think it's fair to saythat when we went on Mormon
Stories podcast, that was one ofthe most re revelatory parts of
the conversation was seeing howmany things were similar and how

(01:08:04):
many things are like, oh, well,we have this.
And and John Delyn or Margiewould be like, oh yeah, we have
this, and we'd be like, Yeah.
Mind blown.
Uh auditing Scientology.
I had a sign which read, an OT,an operating Thetan person, can
control matter, energy, space,and time, but can't handle a
protester.
Yes, brilliant.

(01:08:25):
Absolutely.
They cannot confront and jettersuppression.
Becky, big brother fan, why isflag hurricane and stormproof,
hurricane and stormproof ifScientology have the power to
avoid extreme weather?
Great question.
Uh, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:41):
They don't.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:42):
And you know, there was a lot of times where they
would do this whole rigmarole.
Like everybody's got to reallypostulate that the that the
storm turns.
Um, that's what they use inScientology.
They say postulate or use yourintention.
Get your intention into thestorm to move it or whatever.
But postulate is is a veryheavy, heavily used.

(01:09:06):
Like you it's and and I would sosort of like visioning, uh
envisioning or manifesting.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:12):
Manifesting.
That's what I was gonna say.
I would say that the real worldlanguage equivalent of that is
manifesting.
Like you're gonna manifest X, Y,and Z.
Yeah, but that's that's whatthey mean when they say it
you're gonna postulate.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:24):
Yeah.
So they do that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:26):
Positive affirmation.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:28):
They do that, and then the frickin' storm would
obliterate the place, and thenyou'd be like, what happened?

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:35):
What happened?
What do you guys think?
Good to ethics.
You didn't you didn't you know?

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:39):
We don't need those three string OTs.
We need the first stringers inhere jamming their intentions.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:44):
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:46):
Oh my goodness.
Okay.
Oh, what is this?
C2C is about to deliver.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:53):
Cult to consciousness is about to
deliver.
Okay, sounds good.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:57):
Bonanza.
Tune in.
I don't know what that means.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:59):
I don't either.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:00):
We'll have to take it out.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:01):
It's a big old.
Oh, deliver.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:03):
Deliver a baby.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:06):
Oh, another one?

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:09):
I don't know.
I don't I'm not keeping up onthis.
I'm not on the Facebooks and thesocial media.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:13):
I'll reach out to Shalise.
When when they had their firstbaby, we sent them.
I I always have a favorite giftthat I love to give from us,
FYI, which is like this reallycute little bear that's themed
for if it's a boy or a girl, andit has all their um you know,
date of birth, the weight, likeit's really, really cute.

(01:10:33):
So we sent them that when theyhad their first baby.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:36):
Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:36):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:37):
Look at that, guys.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:38):
You learn something new every day.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:40):
Somebody says she is with child.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:42):
Yep, her second baby.
Nice, awesome.
That's great.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:45):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:46):
I know they moved to Texas.
I think that's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:48):
I don't I don't go on social media that much.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:50):
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:51):
But I said I want to say a month or two ago I went on
there and um and I follow herchannel on whatever social media
I do have, but I don't really goon it.
And it she was dancing or doingsomething on it.
And I was like, uh okay.
I did not know she was a dancer.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:08):
Nice.
Um oh, co comment.
Uh here we go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:14):
Eaglewood comment, Eli Yoder is an escaped Amish.
Nice, awesome.
That'll be see there you go.
We're getting great feedbackalready.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:22):
Look at this big brother fan.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:25):
Gift organized by Clara, not Mark, of course.
Of course.
Um I mean, that's uh, you know,I'm the details gal.

SPEAKER_06 (01:11:33):
That's her job.
She does that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:36):
Mark doesn't arrive on site if I don't organize
everything.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:42):
So I'm doing my dream.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:44):
He's good.
Teamwork makes the dream work,folks.
Isn't that right, honey?

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:48):
Here's another one.
See what we're prospecting atthe close.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:50):
Eli has a great channel.
Nice, awesome.
I will check that out.
Thank you for therecommendation.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:55):
She's these people are jamming it up.
They got all kinds of things.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
Oh, here we go.
Poof.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:59):
Jonathan Hirsch was an Adidas.
He would be a good guest.
He made that podcast, DearFranklin Jones, which is
excellent, and had Ford Green inan episode.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:09):
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:10):
Wow.
Interesting.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:12):
That's very definitely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:14):
Yeah, we like Ford.
Um, okay.
Um, here we go.
Uh no.
Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:23):
Can you switch it back?
Love Food Kitchen, at Beg Becky,Big Brother fan.
That FYI was letting him knowfor the first time.

SPEAKER_06 (01:12:32):
It's talking about you giving the the the the the
bear.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:37):
He had no idea.
He found out it's one of those TI L today.
I learned that we gave Shaliseand Jonathan.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:45):
T I L thing?

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:47):
Yes.
Of course.
Telling you.
Another another T I L.
T I L, I learned what T I L is.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:58):
Double T L A.
What is it?
T T I T I L.
Double T I L Day.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:05):
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:07):
Oh my goodness.
Are we having too much fun?
Thank you to everybody in thechannel.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:12):
Um do-ba-do-ba-do.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:15):
All right.
This is a good point.
So basically, they're tellingthe storm to go F over some
other people who are lesscapable of handling it.
Exactly.
Great point.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:25):
So the if there's any time that the storm is
heading for the for Clearwater,Tampa area, and it avoids that,
you could be like, Yeah, thanks,Scientology.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:38):
Yeah, exactly.
Well, yeah, because it that'sthe greatest good for the
greatest number of dynamics isfor some other place to be hit
by said storm than Scientology.
So there you go.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:50):
Oh, here's the answer to the question here, by
the way.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:52):
Okay, Angela, thanks for answering my question.
And yes, it's an interview aboutCelebrity Center with Amy and
Liz.
Got it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:58):
Yeah, because Amy used to be WDC Celebrity Center.
Watchdog Committee member forCelebrity Center.
Yes.
And Liz Ferrish used to work atCelebrity Center.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:09):
Holy moly, white glove in her room.
She's gotta stop anyway.
Okay, guys, I think we did it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:15):
We made it to the end.
Thanks to everybody joining usthis joining us this fine
Sunday.
Don't forget to tune in forWednesday, March 11th for our
live stream.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:26):
Yeah, we'll we've already kind of set the live
stream up for it, but we haven'tscheduled it.
So if you turn if you subscribeand turn your bell notification
on, it'll tell you, hey, we'regonna do a live.
But it's gonna be it's gonna beWednesday, this upcoming
Wednesday, and it's gonna be inthe afternoon.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:46):
Yes, late afternoon, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:48):
Four or five or in there, somewhere somewhere
around there.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:51):
That's when it's gonna be.
Yes, it's gonna be in thatwindow.

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And also reminder um, anotherway to receive notification is
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That's another way that you willbe uh notified about interesting
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SPEAKER_05 (01:15:14):
I don't know if this is X-rated or not, but uh Becky
Big Brother fan.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:19):
Nope, not okay, not that one.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:21):
Oh oh it it too many people commented it switched.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:24):
My needle is floating after this stream.
Very good indicators, thank you.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:30):
Someone sees no one needs to hear about that.
Keep giving me opening.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:35):
No one needs to hear about that.
Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:38):
Holy moly.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:41):
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:42):
Okay, folks, thanks for joining us.
Um, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:45):
Thanks for hanging with us.
Thanks for being here.
The next time we'll see you ison Wednesday.
Yes, Wednesday.
Exactly.

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