Season 1 Episode 15 - Baseball! - Breakfast of Champions

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This is Kevin O'Malley, third co-host.
I haven't been on in a while,
but I have a few topics I want to bring up,
and I guess I can you guys discuss.
Number one, the picture of me and Hulk Hogan.

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That is me and Hulk Hogan, not Terry Bollea.
Hulk Hogan is the classic wrestler from the 80s and 90s,
and Terry Bollea is the person who is supporting Trump,
and he's kind of a piece of s*** now.
But he's wanting to make the distinction
that those are two different people.
Number two, you guys brought up Gene and Shawn Strickland

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on the last podcast, and I guess you heard that
because he showed up in my backyard last week.
He was on one of his night rants saying something
about how Shawn Strickland was America's fighter.
I don't know what that means.
I tried to get him to slow down,
see what he meant about that,
hoping that it was about him being against that manager

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or whoever it was, screwing kids.
I couldn't get him to slow down because it's Gene,
so I don't know if he heard me,
but I tried to clarify that with him.
Then he kicked me in the balls and ran off over the fence,
running down the riverbed behind my house,
so who the hell knows where he is now.
Number three, I had a topic for you guys.

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Playing fighting games, do you use block
or just attack the whole time?
Discuss.
You're in big trouble, little pal.
I eat pieces of s*** like you for breakfast.
You eat pieces of s*** for breakfast?
No.

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Yes.
Three, two, one.
Welcome to season one, episode 15
of Breakfast of Champions.
We're happy to be here.
I am one of your hosts, Renee Floyd.
I'm Parker Howard.
Yes, sir.
We're here, we're back with another fun-filled episode.
We're nothing if not consistent.

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We're turning these out week after week.
15 weeks of podcasting.
That's impressive.
What's that divided by four?
I think it's almost four months.
Man, number 16 will be four months.
And I was checking the RSS before I walked in here,
and I think we're like six downloads away
from having 600 downloads.

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That's awesome.
We have over a hundred views
on our Seth Gilmore YouTube episode.
So shout out to Seth for helping us get the word out there.
And just I wore that today,
and just cause I saw that number, I was like, oh yeah.
We're doing it.
Played that huge show in New York.
I know, that's the other thing.
Just in memory of Riley and everything that I saw,

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my feed was just filled with Riley for a day,
and it just made me smile and cry a little bit
and just feel like, yeah.
Every August 24th, 25th, I just, I'm in a weird head space.
Like, it, yeah.
It's also a better sweet time for me
because the 24th is my brother David's birthday,

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and the 27th today is my son Truman's birthday.
So I have like sandwiched happiness
in between a little bit of sadness there.
But yeah, man, if you are unfamiliar
with the band Power Trip or who we're talking about,
we have a whole episode that you can go check out,
get into some of the lore of Seth
and what he was doing before Power Trip

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and still kind of doing outside of Power Trip with Muay Thai
and traveling the world.
And he's just a multifaceted cool guy.
So if you're listening to us for the first time,
you have no idea what we're talking about,
go back into the archives.
There's a James Gray episode that's great.
There's a Jordan Klein episode that's hilarious.
You know, we've got some of our buds
that are doing their own thing in their own ways.

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And we're just happy to share that with you
in a non-conventional way.
Don't forget the multiple Kevin O'Malley episodes.
We gotta get him back on soon.
We do.
Yeah, he's probably just gotta be like,
what was his, he's four?
I think he's four.
Yeah.
And then maybe eight.
So like every fourth episode.
So like 16 next episode.
16, we gotta have him on next episode.
I think we're gonna go up to the pancake house

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and have a live episode.
Yeah, all you can eat pancakes at the IHOP.
With these, we could.
Just need batteries there.
Yeah.
Not the gas station batteries, but real actual batteries.
We're a power bank.
It's just got a USB-C.
We can do that too.
I know when I used to be in college
and I'd go up there in the middle of the night,
I'd take my laptop and I'd plug it in under the booth.

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Oh yeah, they don't give a rip.
We could easily do an IHOP live cast next week.
Oh, I was thinking old south.
Well, they have all you can eat pancakes.
I forgot there's all you can eat.
Kevin's probably gonna put away a 16 by himself.
And he's gonna make really intense eye contact with us
while he does it.
He probably doesn't eat with syrup either.

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He's like dry only.
Actually, I've never seen Kevin eat a pancake.
For all the times we've eaten at old south,
I've never seen Kevin eat a pancake.
There you go.
It's a mystery.
He eats the same thing every time.
So thank you for joining us.
If you have something to say right off rip,
give us a call, 682-294-0101.

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We also have an email address,
breakfastofchampspodatgmail.com.
And we're pretty heavily on the IG.
We answer questions and tag people
and put up posts and that sort of thing.
So find us on IG at breakfastofchampspod.
I have a little surprise.
I was very excited to see this
when I walked in this morning.
I made our show notes last night

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and I did not include any breakfast
because I just didn't know what to do
slash wasn't really feeling breakfast
like at 11 o'clock.
It's kind of a weird time to like have the breakfast.
But then I was driving in and my son Rhodes reminded me
and also Jordan Klein reminded me
that Dr. Pepper Donuts are here at Krispy Kreme.

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So I went ahead and picked us up a couple.
And so we're gonna be having these Dr. Pepper Donuts
from Krispy Kreme.
If you have listened to the bonus episode with my kids,
my daughter called me out.
She's like, you're in a Dr. Pepper kind of mood right now.
And for the past, I would say month or two,

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I've been having a Dr. Pepper every single day
in the morning time.
And I'm loving it.
And I'm loving it.
So I work somewhere that has a Coke freestyle machine
and there's no Dr. Pepper.
But they got Mr. Pibb.
Oh yeah.
And I've been fucking heavily with Mr. Pibb.
The other thing is whenever I was growing up,

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we had a HEB because I lived in central Texas.
So Dr. B was my thing.
I would not have Dr. Pepper and have Dr. B.
So I am not like a snob when it comes to my doctor drinks.
I love the, what are those really?
Dr. Goodwin from, what are those?
Natural sodas.
Yeah, I've had those.
I will have any doctor drink there is.

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Did you ever have?
Mr. Pibb, Dr. Pepper, anything.
Mr. Pibb didn't finish his schooling.
He didn't.
He's just a regular, he's a chiropractor.
No.
Don't knock the chiropractor.
No, it's on my mind because Allie and,
we're gonna talk about it later,
but Allie and Madison went to Parker on a school tour
yesterday because that's what,
that's actually what Madison wants to do.

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Oh, that's awesome.
So yeah, just they are actual doctors,
just being silly, making a Seinfeld kind of thing.
When we get into it later,
I've got a funny chiropractor story.
I've got a few.
But, so there's all the Dr. Pepper knockoffs.
I'm a big Dr. Thunder guy, myself.
I actually went to Walmart the other day
and they had all of their sodas rolled back

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for a dollar for a two liter.
I was like, holy shit, what year is it?
Who's the president?
So I bought that.
But did you ever have a Dr. Crush?
I don't think so.
That sounds crazy.
It was the worst thing I've ever put in my mouth.
I've put a lot of terrible things in my mouth.

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I was probably, I'm trying to remember.
So I won a trip to Six Flags over St. Louis
when I was a kid.
I was fourth grade or fifth grade.
And so my mom and I drove down there,
like went to the park, stayed the night at the hotel.
I ordered a Dr. Pepper with my dinner.
Oh, we don't have that, but we have Dr. Crush.
And I was like, that's weird.
Okay, I'll try it.

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Tastes like straight up cough syrup.
Oh.
Like can, because they served it in a can.
It was weird.
I was saying it like a holiday inn.
And they had like a restaurant in the holiday inn
but they brought you a can of soda.
That's crazy.
And it was Dr. Crush.
And I can't want to look it up
because maybe I'm imagining it.
We have the time.
But yeah, it was.
Pull it up.

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Do a little goog.
Do a little goog.
That's what I'm gonna say every time I look something up.
So while he was talking about the Dr. Crush,
I went ahead and I couldn't help myself.
I just went ahead and dove right
into this Dr. Pepper donut.
And let me tell you, it is a flavor experience
because it does taste like it, it's weird.

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You know how like the carbonation hits your tongue?
It's almost as if they captured the carbonation
a little bit.
But it's definitely sweet right off rip
and it takes time for the soda-esque,
the Dr. Pepper-esque flavors to develop.
But once you get that full bite,
it does taste like Dr. Pepper amazingly.

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So it's like, it's strange.
So if you've never been to Krispy Kreme,
we've reviewed them before in another episode with Kevin.
I only get really one donut from there.
But they are really heavy on their sweetness
and on their lightness.
So this donut actually is not super light like they have.

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It actually feels almost like more like a cake donut
as opposed to their regular glazed.
It is their regular glazed,
but for some reason this one feels a little cakey to me.
It is just a small strip of Dr. Pepper icing
around the edge of the donut.
It is not covered in the Dr. Pepper icing.
So the sweetness is really not overpowering,

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which is crazy because you think Krispy Kreme,
you think Sweet Tooth, but this is really well balanced.
It has a good flavor consistency all around
because it has like that whole thing.
Go ahead, you found it?
I know, I can't find it.
Did you fever dream Dr. Crush?
Or did they make it up?
Maybe I got Mandela affected.
We swapped timelines in 2012 whenever CERN fired up.

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Yep, exactly.
Did you see, speaking of CERN,
you know that they've got one in like Tennessee?
Did you see the, like, there's a name for it
and I forget, but I saw the photos
and it looks like a portal opened up
like a few miles away from it,
but it's just a cloud formation that's like super rare.
And everybody's like, no, CERN's opening a portal.

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And I had no idea there was one in the US.
Please tell me that doesn't taste like Dr. Pepper.
It's crazy.
And also, how do you nail all 23 flavors of the Dr. Pepper?
Boom.
Just kidding, it's mostly cherry.
That's delicious.
I mean, so I tried to make a Dr. Pepper ice cream one time.
Oh yeah?

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And what I did, and I succeeded,
but it was too expensive to do in a restaurant,
is like the SodaStream.
Oh, cracking a cold one, cold Dr. Pepper.
That's a little Jim Weed.
But I used the SodaStream off-brand Dr. Pepper flavor
and I put that into the batter, so I'm wondering

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if they use like a Dr. Pepper syrup.
I'm sure there's probably a concentrator,
like almost like an extract that you could add
that's Dr. Pepper flavory, but they nailed it.
It's good as fuck.
It's a good ratio.
Like I said, it's not super sweet.
It's not super over-the-top Dr. Pepper flavor.
It's just like, it's very satisfying
in the Dr. Pepper flavor-esque.

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Not something I'd get all the time of specialty donut,
but very cool, very interesting.
I like when, this is actually part of their,
I know we're doing baseball today,
but this is part of their football kickoff.
It's about to be football season,
and so they have a Dr. Pepper donut.
They have a football donut,
and then they have one that has like a goal post.

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But I think this is the only one
that has the Dr. Pepper flavor in it.
The other ones are just decorated
in celebration of football season, kicking back off.
So we lucked out, man.
Limited time only kind of thing.
They've got, actually, funnily enough,
it's like a brown frosting, like soda-esque frosting,

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and they try to clean it up
with the red and white sprinkles or whatever.
But very interesting donut.
I was like, hmm, let's try this on the pod,
because I mean, where else would we try this?
You know what I mean?
I got it.
It wasn't Dr. Crush, Dr. Slice.
Oh, Dr. Slice.
Even weirder to me.
The wild one.
I've seen that, can't.

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I may have had it whenever I was a young boy.
Yeah.
So Dr. Slice was a variant of Slice Lemon Lime,
which was released in 1998 until 2009,
when Slice was discontinued.
Dr. Slice was PepsiCo's transparent attempt
to make their own version of Dr. Pepper.
Even if the two drinks really don't taste alike,
Dr. Slice was called the wild one.

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Bad ass.
It has one comment on this post.
It's no good.
It says, I started by copying over one of your pages.
Okay, cool.
That's a helpful comment.
Yeah, no, it was not Dr. Crush, Dr. Slice.
Oh my God, it was so awful.
It was not wild.
It was just disgusting.

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It was not the wild one.
No.
It was the gross one.
It was like, oh, did you just put
fucking cherry flavored.
Into what?
Spine.
Spine.
Willow.
Have you been down to Waco to the Dr. Pepper Museum?
I've been to Waco a bunch,
but I've never been to the museum.
I need to go.
You know the lore of all of that?
That Dr. Pepper used to just be called a Waco?

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Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
There was a doctor in Waco and he made a drink
and they called it the Waco before it was Dr. Pepper.
I don't think there was actually a Dr. Pepper standard.
Dr. Waco.
Yeah, Dr. Waco.
You know what else happened in Waco?
We all do know that what else happened there.
And we went to the Branch Davidian compound

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and I had this whole thing in my mind
where I was like, I'm gonna get a picture with a sign.
I'm gonna be flexing and be like, Waco Gun Club.
And I got there and the atmosphere was so heavy there.
Oh, I imagine.
That I couldn't make jokes.
It bummed me out being there.
Yeah.
Like, ugh.
It's one of those things where no matter how you think

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of a story in your mind or even if you think
that you have quote unquote a good handle of the events,
just walk down by the 9-11 Memorial and tell me
you don't feel the heaviness in the air
and the somberness and at that point,
it doesn't matter what your politics are
or even what you know about the story.
You just feel the energy in the place and you're like,

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okay, this is a place for me to not fuck around
and not be stupid because I'm sure somebody's family,
it was directly affected that is an actual human being
and the humanity of it all.
I mean, same thing with the Oklahoma City bombing Memorial.
I've been there a whole bunch of times
because I've got a lot of families from up there
that was affected by that when it happened

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and going to that memorial, again,
just the energy and the heaviness.
So like I said, went to the Branch Davidian compound
and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna like,
and I just got there.
I was like, nah, this is heavy.
There's also still people who live there.
There's a church there.
You see them walking around and it's like,
oh, I don't wanna be disrespectful.

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Yeah, it's similar vibes.
I sent you that shirt that I really want,
that Nike away team.
Yeah.
Sadly, I want, I'm just, what's crazy is one year,
whenever I was with my band Sons of Sierra,
that was the one that like before,
it was like kind of a roots rock band.

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It was like me and my best friend, Anthony.
And we had just like played a bunch of shows around
and we had found this one place in Arlington
that was like a pool hall that would hit us up
like once every three months and they actually paid out.
So it was one of those things where it was like,
yeah, we don't have a draw there,
but like we'll go and like practice our showmanship

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and also because like everyone's playing pool in bowling
and shit, they're not watching.
And it's also like in a, almost like a strip mall.
Is it over off of Cooper?
Probably.
Like just south of UTA.
I know exactly where it is.
So yeah, we would take that gig just to kind of,
and it was like one of those things
where they'd throw you with, you're with a reggae band

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and also like a guy that's playing hip hop tracks.
It was like a mixed bag show.
So it was more along the lines of like practice,
get a hundred bucks and get out for the night for us.
And we loved it.
I love playing gigs like that where like,
you're playing to like two people that don't really care.
Cause like-
You're getting a hundred bucks out of it.
Yeah, and you're having fun with your buds.
You know, and that's actually, anyways,

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so they asked us to play an Halloween show one year
and we all dressed up as heavens gay,
Colt black shirts, black.
And we all had the black, we didn't get the actual,
we just had like, everyone just got black Nikes or whatever.
And then I laminated lanyards
with a heavens gay emblem on them.

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And we had like a purple,
like velvet thing that covered our amps.
So yeah, we like, we, that's what we did for Halloween.
And then we played like, we would play an original song
and a cover song back to back to back the whole night.
Cause it was a Halloween show, you know,
so we'd go, we'd play one of our songs

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and then play a cover song,
play one of our songs, play a cover song.
So that was one of my favorite shows to play.
Cause I mean like, no one's expecting you to do anything
super like over the top that you're already not doing.
So like bowling alley, pool hall, strip ball, you know what I mean?
So it's like just the little things for us made it,

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made it better, made a memory for us.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's what it's all about.
Yeah.
So let's see, or you want to rate these or just,
we've already rated Krispy Kreme, you know, they're good.
And just wanted to mention that they're out there.
I give it five doctors out of six peppers.
When you were a kid, do you used to joke with your friends
and be like, I just took a Parker and wiped my Howard.

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Nah.
Dude, I heard that so many times.
I never heard that actually.
Dude, I heard that so many times.
Your kids were doing, oh man, what happened?
And be like, I just had to take a Parker
and then I had to wipe my Howard.
It was so rude.
I've never heard that.
Not once.
And it's customizable to anybody.
You can just change it up like to him.

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That's a good one.
I thought maybe that's just something I heard.
That was a special treat just for me down in Killeen
in Lampasas area.
Yeah, I agree.
It's a solid donut, but I would not get it.
Like I'm not gonna get a dozen of them.
I'll have like, if I'm gonna get a dozen,
I'll throw one or two in there just for the taste in.

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And then maybe next year when football season comes around,
I'll go, maybe they'll have another Dr. Pepper donut.
Yeah, I eat the whole thing,
which usually I don't eat a whole donut on the show.
You say that, but then every time you do it,
I'm just kidding.
K doughnuts and I feel so bad not remembering the-
Sous.
Sous and Krispy Kreme.

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They all get a whole donut from me.
Yeah, no, this is great.
I would definitely, I couldn't eat more than one.
The buttercream is strong.
Yeah, but it's delicious.
I love Dr. Pepper.
I love doughnuts.
Yeah. Solid.
Cool.
I'm glad we got a chance to try it
for the limited time that it was out.
I was telling you before we started recording,

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I went to Kroger to buy some groceries the other day
and right at the self checkout,
they have a Krispy Kreme display case.
Oh yeah.
They charge $2.99 for a single donut there.
Oh no.
I think that's how much, maybe one night at,
but I remember just being like,
that's insane for a grocery store.
Thanks Joe Biden.

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I mean, hell.
Yeah, no, but no, I was just like,
I know there's not a Krispy Kreme near here,
so it's like, I would pay that in gas to go buy one fresh,
but spending more than 59 cents on a grocery store donut,
even if it's name brand.
Dude, QT's donut prices are getting insane.
I think they're $1.99 per donut.
If you buy them after a certain time, they're cheaper.

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I don't wanna buy them after that time.
I want it in the morning fresh.
Have you ever been there when they unload them?
Oh yeah.
I stop a trip on my way home from work most nights
at like two or three a.m. and they're putting them out.
I'll go ahead and take one of those.
I like the donut hole that's all together
with the pink frosting and the sprinkles.
That's one of my favorites.
I don't see that many places else but QT.

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I also heard that they're now not doing
like a fresh bakery donut anymore.
Lame.
I read this because I was looking at,
I saw QT had like a now hiring sign up and was like,
oh, they probably have good benefits.
Let me look into that.
They like you after all the benefits and like stuff,
you can kind of make some money,

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but it seems like a lot of bullshit to deal with.
So I went on the quick trip.
I'm sure they want you to start on the overnights.
You have to work.
The schedule is weird.
I've had a few friends who work there.
It's like you have to do certain overnights.
Like no matter what.
Yeah.
Like the guy at the quick trip I go to, he was there.
He only does overnights and he does it five nights a week.
He's just not there on Wednesday and Thursday.

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Also, homie hooks me up with pre-hack girls
almost every time I go.
Solid hookup.
But yeah, I was reading,
I went to the quick trip Reddit as one does
when they want to know what the dirt is from the employees.
Love Reddit.
And they were basically saying like, oh yeah,
now they just like come in frozen.
We like pop them in an oven in the back
and then put them out.

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That's lame.
Yeah, man.
Screw that.
Yeah.
I had a theory the other day that basically society
is going to be ran by two websites going forward.
It's going to be Reddit and ChatGVT.
Yeah, I believe that.
Like if you want to know the truth,
you got to go to Reddit and then sort through all of that
and then make up your mind for yourself.
And then if you want to communicate with anybody

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in any sort of way,
you have to run it through ChatGVT first
to make sure that it's like politically correct,
spelling, you know what I mean?
I mean, honestly, it seems like that's the way we're going.
I saw an article before I came in this morning.
There's like a former CIA dude being like
warning people that you need to leave America before 2030.

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Like the empire is going to collapse by 2034.
Where have you been the last 20 years?
It's like, okay, yeah, sure.
And how like he moved his family to Italy.
I feel like that same story comes around
every two or three years.
Some high up in the government is telling us
that they know something that we don't know
and they're going to like encourage us.

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And like, especially during times of like
campaign season where you, you know what I mean?
You have like, I think even at one point
you had like George Clooney saying like,
if this person's elected,
I'm moving to another country or whatever.
I think there was like 20 or 30 people that said that.
I mean, I remember that with George Bush
when we were younger.
Like, I'm moving to Canada.
Like all the celebrities were like,
I'm moving to Canada, Val Gore doesn't win.

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Oh wait, you're all still fucking here.
You have a beach home in Ibiza or something.
Like whatever.
Cool man.
Well, thank you, Krispy Kreme and thank you, Dr. Pepper.
Sorry, we just wound up in political land there
for a second, but we wanted to,
we've been continuing along this movie series

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of like top five and we've never like kept
to a solid top five.
I went back and listened and we've been like,
sometimes we just talk movies.
Sometimes we actually rank them sometimes.
And so today I wanted to talk a little bit about
favorite unconventional fight movies.
It doesn't have to be a top five.
We just can talk movies.
And so in our minds, just to kind of set the scene for you,

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so you're like on the same wavelength as we're talking,
I mentioned before we got started, Say Anything.
It's not a conventional fight movie.
There's not a lot of fight scenes in it.
However, John Cusick's character is very enthused
with kickboxing.
You see him practicing with the heavy bag
and doing different things like that.

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And there's a lot of allusions to,
I think the writer and also John Cusick himself
were into kickboxing at the time,
much like the same thing,
like he wore his own t-shirts for wardrobe and shit.
So a lot of his influences personally came through
in that movie.
And so he even says at one point during the movie,

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they're asking him like what he wants to do
with his future.
And he brings up kickboxing.
He thinks it's the next big thing.
And so we're kind of going that route
and also the one that we brought up
was Shall and Soccer, we'll talk about it.
But just so you know kind of where we're going,
those types of movies.
So you wanna kick off?
I see you looking over there.

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Yeah, I'm trying to get some ideas
because yeah, Shall and Soccer was one
that I thought of. Yeah, let's talk about that one first.
Kung Fu Hustle, like the Stephen Chow.
Yeah, for sure.
And we're also talking not necessarily B movies,
but movies that are like maybe not so highly regarded.

(26:24):
Cult movies, movies that people really like
for certain reasons and stuff like that.
So Shall and Soccer came out, let's see, in 2001.
I was still in high school when this came out.
I was not yet in high school.
I was about to be in high school.
I thought we were the same age.
You're younger than me.
Yeah, I'm 36.
Young buck, god damn.
God, I'll be 41 this year.
So I guess we're a little bit, I'm 36 too.

(26:49):
Yeah, age is just a number.
Actually, we're the same age.
No, I've got a friend.
I interviewed for a job with her mom
and her mom was like, yeah, how did you know her?
You're like, you're in your 40s, right?
Because that's what the friend told her mom.
And I was like, no, I'm only a year older
than your daughter.

(27:09):
Like I was, she's 35, I'm 36.
And she's like, that's weird.
That's weird that she thinks you're in your 40s.
I was like, I don't know why.
Yeah, so this would have been,
I distinctly remember more than anything
the advertisements leading up to the release of it.

(27:30):
I mean, they went all, the marketing.
They did a great job of marketing.
I mean, it was crazy.
You couldn't turn on the TV in any sort of demo
that was like from like five years old
all the way up to like 50 years old.
They were targeting almost anybody and everybody
for this movie on a heavy rotation.
And if I remember, okay, so around that same time in 2002,

(27:51):
Bend It Like Beckham came out.
So, you know, kind of that same era.
And I have a feeling that Shaolin Soccer
probably came out in the US closer to 2002.
Let's check it out.
Is my guess, I could be wrong on that.
Anyway, while you're looking that up,
I'll just give you a quick,
if you've never seen Shaolin Soccer,

(28:13):
basically there's a young Shaolin follower
who reunites with his discouraged brothers
to form a soccer team using their martial arts skills
to gain an advantage.
It sounds silly, but it's meant to be that way.
Like they didn't hide the fact
that it's a camp style-esque movie.

(28:34):
There's a lot of scenes where you have like bullet time,
if you know that term, kind of like the matrix
where the bullets are flying and time slows down
and the camera pans around
and you can kind of see everything in a 360.
They use some of that in this movie.
So it's not like your traditional soccer movie
and it's not like your traditional martial arts movie.
It's like a mixture of the worlds

(28:56):
and also like this, almost like video game-esque
or anime-esque thing in real life.
I feel like if you,
like that's what they were trying to make Speed Racer,
you know what I mean?
When they tried to bring that to the movies.
Awesome.
Yeah.
So when you thought we can go there later,
but like trying to bring that anime style to real life,

(29:17):
I think that they did a really good job
with like not hiding the fact
that that's what they were doing.
They put that stuff in the advertisements.
You weren't like, oh my God, this is crazy.
I didn't expect this.
It was like, this is a rock and roll in your face
fast action adventure, grab a Mountain Dew,
go with your friends.
Totally.
And it was released in the US on April 2nd, 2004.

(29:39):
Ah, so you were correct, my friend.
Yeah.
So it came out after
after Bennett Like Beckham.
So, but it was also the highest grossing movie in Hong Kong
until his next movie, Kung Fu Hustle came out.
There you go.
Which leads us into Kung Fu Hustle.
Which I'm more familiar with.
I've seen Shaolin Soccer once or twice, but

(30:01):
Yeah, I saw it whenever I was like
Yeah, Kung Fu Hustle
a teenager slash young adult
is the one that I was like, holy shit.
Like I saw it in the theater.
I was working at the movie theater when it came out,
but like saw it in the theater multiple times
and then bought it when it came out.
I was obsessed with that movie.
And it's definitely more of a like traditional fight movie
than Shaolin Soccer is because it's all about it,

(30:22):
but it has like musical numbers
and like campy slapstick comedy.
It's like somewhere between Looney Tunes
and like anime.
Awesome.
Like, so I'm gonna read the synopsis
and come back to what I was thinking,
but it says, it's the 1940s China and gangs rule the city.
The most notorious of them is,

(30:43):
the most notorious of all of them is the Axe Gang
led by Brother Sum.
A slum called the Pigsty Alley is the only safe area
for the axes because the people there are so poor.
Soon, wannabe gangster Sing and his pal Bone
attempt to extort money out of a barber and fail,
drawing the real Axe Gang to Pigsty.

(31:04):
However, it turns out that there are several
Kung Fu masters living in the slum
and soon the two sides are enemies.
As the plot thickens, Sing must decide,
should he become a mobster or save the day?
Boom.
When you were saying like the campiness of it,
it almost reminds me of like the suspension of disbelief

(31:24):
when you go into a musical, you know what I mean?
It's like a West Side story.
Like you wanna believe that these are hardened
high school gangsters but they're like pulling out a
switch blade and doing dance numbers and singing.
And so it's sort of the same thing where you have to
go into these movies as like, more of like,
I think of the way that my kids go into movies
where the possibilities are endless.

(31:46):
There are times that we're like,
I forget which movies, oh, there are certain movies,
they're trying to guess what's gonna happen next
and I'm just like, just wait, just wait.
Because I know that it's gonna be even better
than what they're guessing or whatever.
We've been recently, we watched Back to the Future
one, two and three.
They love those movies.

(32:06):
We watched Mrs. Doubtfire the other day, which I said.
But the one that we just finished last night
was Freaky Friday.
Oh, the original or the Jamie Lee Curtis?
The Jamie Lee Curtis.
Still good.
Yeah, and now they wanna go back and watch the originals.
My kids are like that.
They're like, when I was talking to you about OMA,
I was folding clothes and I had like, just had it on

(32:28):
and Rhodes is drawing in the background
and every single sample they went into,
he was like, oh, I know this song.
And then he'd start singing along.
And I'm like, you know the rap song,
but they're playing the sample.
And he's like, no, I know the sample.
And he started singing the sample and I'm like.
Yeah.
Doing it right.
Yes.

(32:48):
Yeah.
I was like, LeBron Jamesing it.
And I even told my wife's in her own world
in the kitchen cleaning up.
And I'm in the living room.
I was like, babe, he knows all these songs.
She was like, I know, I hear him.
I was just like, I know, but like he knows them.
So it's just a good feeling

(33:09):
when your kids are into cool music.
McGee is happening.
And I get asked every day by Faye,
how many days until the McGee concert?
Just I'm like, so I have to hit up my calendar
and we count it out.
And I'm like, okay.
And so it's like less than a month now.
And so.
I have to take it for that.
And figure that out.
Yeah.

(33:30):
Well, we were also looking at try to get,
have you, did you check out Fredigan at all?
I've listened to a few songs.
And actually since you showed me that,
it's popped up multiple times in my life.
The algorithm is listening.
Always.
So Jordan and I were looking at tickets
we got like on the artist presale or whatever

(33:52):
to try to get tickets because he's actually
the last stop of his tour of all fucking places
is Fort Worth, Texas and Dickies.
And so it was like, I was like,
we manifested him coming to us
because we've been talking for like the last two
or three years, like how are we gonna get over
to see him or like, is there any way we could possibly
see him live because he's like right up our zone

(34:13):
as far as like, you know, music production
and you know, just like musicianship
and being able to rub shoulders with the hip hop world
and like all of that is just right up like our peanut butter
and jelly.
So like the fact that his last stop of the tour
is in Fort Worth at Dickies.
So we're like sitting there looking at first
we can get in and then we got in and there was like 36,000

(34:36):
people in front of me in line.
And then he was like, I'm like 55,000.
And like we were right there online
and it is, this is not the general presale.
This is people that had to give up their email address
to get in a presale code so that they could type in the code
and then get in a day early.

(34:58):
Of course it does.
It seems like somebody's like bought it up.
And so anyways, by the time we got there,
all of the general admission tickets were not available.
And so people were fighting over for like $200 seats
that were not four seats that were all like
in the one to 300 rows.

(35:18):
And I was like, this is insane.
I'm not paying $200 to see him.
I swear to God, I love the man more than life itself.
He's like one of the best musicians in life right now.
But like, I'm not, I can't give you $200
to be in the same room as you.
I would much rather like put on your record
and buy your shirt and stay at the house.
And watch one of your boiler rooms or whatever.

(35:39):
Most live music now it's like, I can't afford live music
unless it's a local like punk or hardcore show.
And even then it's like having time to do that.
But spending like more than like 50 to 75 bucks
for like a big concert, that's about max.
So then about an hour later,
I guess they released general admission.

(36:00):
It was 150 for four seats.
That's not bad.
But then after fees and taxes.
Yeah, it's 200 bucks.
More, it was like 225 for a single floor seat
or for a general admission standard, not seated.
And you know, it's gonna be crazy.
So you're basically paying $200 for back pain.

(36:22):
And not being able to see anything
except for tweens and teens phone screens.
And that points like, I'll pay the 200 bucks
to have a seat and just sit down.
Yeah, so by then.
Yeah, and then by then you're like playing that game
of like, well then let me go back and look at the seats.
Well, all the good seats are gone
because people were already fighting for those
the hour before and you're just like,
I screwed myself out of not being able to see them.

(36:44):
But also I probably wouldn't pay that even if like,
even if I was the only one in waiting in line
and they let me in and gave me 10 minutes
to look at everything and I go,
I'm not getting out of this with $200 for a single seat.
So even if I wanted to bring a friend or my wife,
I'm looking at $500 with parking and probably a drink or two.

(37:05):
There's no way that's like a festival ticket.
Yeah, you wanna talk about the Oasis tickets?
Oh my God.
That's all my Instagram feed has been since Sunday.
You know what's crazy is I went back
and I just put on the essential of Oasis on the way here.
I like three songs.
I like Oasis.
They're good. I do too.
But I like three songs.
But they're not worth freaking out

(37:27):
and telling the internet like,
oh my God, I'm not gonna be able to afford this.
Only the rich people can afford it.
I'm gonna have to like donate.
Oh, what did you expect?
Have you not been an Oasis fan for this long?
Yeah. They're pretty full of themselves.
They've always charged decentish prices.
Yeah. They like money.
It's just kind of blown my mind.
Like how many Oasis fans I didn't know that I knew.

(37:48):
Oh yeah.
And it's like, then here's Wonderwall.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's really, it's been strange to me.
Like just seeing everyone come out of the-
I was excited to see the picture this morning
whenever I was like, oh my God.
And then I realized
they're probably not even standing next to each other.
This is two separate photos mashed up together
and they're playing five dates.
And it's clearly like,
let's see how much money we could get for these five shows

(38:09):
is to see if we could get along for this long.
Yeah.
And no thanks.
I'm going to be super excited to watch whatever is on YouTube
or whatever release they put out on whatever streaming service.
That's how I'm going to take it in.
If they were like, you know, I've been seeing people be like,
oh, there's they're going to come to the States.
They'll definitely play like Coachella.
And it's like, that's cool.

(38:31):
I could never afford to go to Coachella.
I don't want to be around the people who are at Coachella.
Yeah.
No offense.
Maybe a little offense.
Yeah.
Put some deodorant on.
No, not even the deodorant.
I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
If you can afford to go to Coachella,
you and I have nothing in common.
Exactly.
Priorities are different.
Yeah.
But the bills are different.

(38:52):
And I know we've gotten wildly away from movies
and we're talking music, but.
It's fine. It's a podcast.
I guess that's true.
But yeah, I, the live music,
again, outside of like local shows,
just feels kind of dead to me because it's so out of reach.
Speaking of local shows,
I'm going to show you a screenshot.
We can talk about it or not,

(39:14):
depending on your opinion on everything.
Oh no.
This is not anything to do with allegations of.
No.
At all.
This is just speaking of local.
Oh.

(39:35):
Oh.
Okay.
Could have seen him at boiled out for free a few weeks ago.
Could have seen him on the corner of Magnolia
and six Avenue for free a million fucking times.
Todd.
Sorry.
We, I love Leon.
No, his music is amazing.
Every time I've talked to Duke, he's been nothing but great.

(39:57):
Yeah.
And I've played, he's played shows with me.
I've taken photos with him.
I've seen him, like you said,
about 50 times in a row.
But about 50 times for free around here,
not disparaging him at all.
It's just crazy that to go see Leon on an artist presale

(40:19):
for two tickets plus one parking pass, it's $389.
And so.
Like I get the economics of it.
Like nobody is making money on music.
You're making money on touring.
You're making money on merch sales.
When you're playing places like Dickies Arena
has a massive staff, it'll cost a lot to keep the lights on.
It just, it's hard for me to separate myself

(40:41):
from the fact that we've seen him, like you said,
so many times for free around here.
He was blown up around here.
So it's like, it's not like as if he's coming
to a different city.
It's just, we have a different perspective.
We had the opportunity to see him
before he was able to be signed to it.
Well, yeah.
Power Trip I've seen.

(41:03):
Exactly.
Power Trip and Iron Age, the two of them,
I've seen more times than any other band in existence.
And.
How much was that show the other night?
I don't know how much the New York one,
the Dallas one, I think after fees,
it was probably between 40 and 50 bucks.
And it was at the Bomb Factory,
which that's pretty standard for them.
I think last time I saw Power Trip at Bomb Factory,

(41:24):
they were opening, they were the first band on the bill.
I think I paid like 35 bucks after fees.
And that was 2016 probably.
So I mean.
Economics are different.
Yeah, it's different.
So I mean, 40 to 50 bucks, not crazy.
But again, it's like, man, I used to pay $5
or I'd be working the show.
So I didn't pay anything to see them

(41:45):
or I'd be playing the show.
And so it's like, it's crazy that they're playing
like these huge festivals that people are paying
like three to $500 to go see them and a bunch of other bands.
It's like, that's fucking cool.
Good for them.
I also feel, but like, that's why we're talking about this
because like, I don't know Fred again
and I hold him in the same regard as Leon.
And like, I would equally pay,

(42:07):
like I would pay the equal amount to see Fred again
and to see Leon Bridges at both of those arenas.
And I can't afford either of them.
And I, you know what I mean?
I know people who have kids who work one job
and they're going to see Fall Out Boy at Tiki's.
Fall Out Boy at Blink-182.
And they saw Blink-182.

(42:27):
It's like, I looked at tickets for those
because like, I'm not a huge Fall Out Boy fan
but my kids like them.
And like, they have a special place in my mind
from a special like, time in my life and everything.
So I was like, it'd be cool to take the kids.
Nah, I can't afford that.
Blink-182, never seen them.
They were like one of my favorite bands
like when Dude Ranch came out.

(42:49):
Like it, I was, you know, the perfect age for that.
I was like, holy shit.
And I've never seen them live.
And it's like, fuck, they're playing right down the street
from my house, I'm gonna look at tickets, oh fuck no.
And so like seeing all these people I know who it's like,
oh yeah, like work one job and I got kids and this.
And I'm like, how the fuck are you affording to pay,

(43:10):
you know, $600 for two shows?
Feet pics, bro.
You gotta get them feet pics online, dog.
I've been trying.
Have you?
I got a Feet Finder account, what do you mean?
Oh, I didn't know, my bad.
I wasn't judging.
I was just giving you a suggestion.
I'm trying, I've been trying.
Pedicures?
I got them.
Oh, okay.
I got my nails, toenails, everything.

(43:30):
If you wanna see my toes, they're cheap.
Holler at your boy.
Drop us a line.
No, but back to the, we can go back to the movies here
in a second, the last thing I'll say about it is
for four tickets to go see McGee at the House of Blues,
it was like less than $150 for all four of us.
So you can do it, but you have to be at a certain level

(43:51):
of your career, I guess, for you to make it feasible
to be able to play a place as big as House of Blues,
but still make it affordable for a family of four.
And I think House of Blues maybe is a little bit different
because it is like a chain type deal,
so they have more corporate money going in.
That's the other thing is you probably don't think about
who has contracts with whom, like Live Nation or AXS

(44:14):
or whoever you're putting tour packages through,
and they may not even have a choice as to what
they're charging after the fact of you're like,
you just sign up with somebody and they're like,
we just have to charge this,
and you're just like, all right, cool.
And I've noticed with House of Blues over the years,
they always have pretty affordable tickets.
You can see decent bands, affordable tickets.

(44:36):
I don't necessarily love the venue.
It's not my favorite place to see music,
but I know that I can usually see cool bands
and not spend a ton of money,
and usually it's like the last time I'll have a chance
to see that band for that amount,
because usually the next stop,
they're going somewhere way bigger
and they're gonna be charging $100 a day.
Speaking of insane prices, Madison turns 21 this year,

(45:01):
and one of her favorite artists is Zach Bryan,
and he's from Oklahoma, and she's at OSU right now.
And I think the day she turns 21, he's playing in Oklahoma.
And so there was no way that we couldn't make that happen,
but I think that it was one of those things

(45:22):
where it's one of those things where I have to pick
one humongous show.
That's the one.
And put it on a credit card or like Klarna,
or affirm it out, and pay it down for the rest of the year.
And then we're putting all of our eggs in one basket.
I think the year that I turned 30 was Kanye for me.

(45:43):
And I saw Kanye on the Yeezus tour,
and Kendrick Lamar had just released Good Kid, Mad City,
and he was the opener for that show.
Damn.
That day, the day before,
maybe even two or three days before,
there was a horrible, horrific ice storm in the area.

(46:04):
The term we had never heard before was cobblestone ice
that kept on popping up that day.
We had seen everything in the Metroplex shut down for days
because people were getting stranded on the highway,
trucks were getting stranded on the highway,
all these things.
And so we had been watching Ticketmaster,

(46:27):
and we had been watching American Airlines,
and we had been watching Kanye's account
and Kendrick's account for days,
seeing are they gonna reschedule, cancel, refund?
What's gonna happen?
Because we knew that this was coming.
So the day of the show, nothing.
We're like, is this happening, is this not happening?

(46:48):
Are we out?
$400 plus dollars or whatever it was back then.
And eventually, I think American Airlines were like,
doors are open at six because of the bad weather,
and we're gonna try to get everybody in here
a little bit early and everybody be safe.
And we live.

(47:09):
That's like a two hour drive
with good weather and okay traffic.
Nah, it's probably like an hour and 20, maybe.
However, we have children and they weren't going to the show
and we needed somebody to take care of them responsibly.
And the people that we had prearranged for them
had lived further south of Dallas,

(47:30):
kind of like, I'm not gonna give away,
like Cedar Hill-ish, that general area.
And so it was like one of those things where we had to go,
I live in Weatherford, obviously,
so from Weatherford down to their house,
and then from their house up to American Airlines.
And it was like, it's not a straight shot
from Weatherford to Dallas anyway, so it was just like.
And this is probably, listen to me,

(47:51):
this is the stupidest thing that Allie and I
have ever done in our relationship.
We put our kids in the car.
We left at like 11 or 12, 11 a.m., 12, like noon.
It took us legit seven hours
to go 45 miles-ish.
That makes sense.

(48:12):
And we were like going 10, 15.
Whole time people are spinning out,
jackknife trailers, made it all the way down there.
Kids were, I mean, we were fine.
It wasn't like, we took it as slow as we possibly could.
You know, just like, it was just, my whole body.

(48:34):
Just tense.
Was a grr, vice grip.
I mean, like legs, body just locked in.
Nerves just on the edge the whole time.
Made it there, dropped our kids off.
They're safe, they're fine.
Everything's good, okay.
We're looking at the weather.
It actually had stopped for a while.

(48:56):
It was gonna be clear.
It wasn't gonna come down anymore
for the rest of the night or whatever.
So we're like, cool, at least it's not gonna get worse.
It's only gonna get better the more people drive on it,
the more like that.
So get in the car at like 738.
No, no, no, 637.
Doors are already open.

(49:17):
And it should only take, on a normal day, 30 minutes
from that area up to, you know.
It took us like 2 1 2.5, 245.
The entire time we had people coming up south to Dallas
that were crazy.
Now that the stuff had been,
so it was like all these people figured out
that this one patch of highway was getting clear-ish

(49:40):
and they were just all merging together in one thing.
So then we just sat and sat and sat and sat and sat.
We finally made it.
Get there.
We have ticketed seats, so we weren't on the floor.
It wasn't like a rush to try to get to the stage
or whatever.
We get there and Kendrick's gonna start
in maybe 20 minutes.
So it was like almost perfect timing,

(50:01):
you know what I mean?
So we go, like let's check out the merch.
People are already down there.
We're getting ready for Kendrick.
We have ticketed seats, so the merch line wasn't that bad.
And I don't know if you remembered,
did you ever listen to Kid Keratik in the morning at all?
Still do.
So do you remember Jenna Owens when she was on the show?
I do.
So we get in line and she's one person,

(50:23):
she's in front of us.
And we didn't realize that until we were in line.
And so we're just looking at merch, right?
And she was zooted, my friend.
I have something, a funny Jenna thing.
So I'm a big Kid Keratik fan from way back.
Me too.

(50:44):
Listen to it going to school with a kid.
I've been to the studios.
I've tried to get on the show many times.
I've been to remotes.
I listen to it with my kids now.
Yeah.
We were actually on our anniversary trip to Austin
whenever he had passed away.
And we're celebrating our one year anniversary,
trying to have a good time.
And we're both just freaking weeping our eyes out,
like listening to old clips and trying to find,

(51:05):
because we were in Austin,
we were trying to get like a station from here
to try to like hear what was going on or whatever.
Anyway, Kid Keratik, love you man.
Keep looking up.
That's where, I mean, way back.
I mean, I'm talking about like,
whenever as a kid he used to play that,
do you remember that, ding, do, ding, ding, do, French toast?
Like all that, like, love you.

(51:26):
My mom was listening to Kid Keratik on her commute
when I was in her belly.
As a, like, when we moved back to Texas,
that was like the most exciting part
was that we got to listen to Kid Keratik
in the morning again.
Yeah, so huge part of our lives still is,
I still tie to tune in from time to time.
It just kinda isn't at the same,
I mean, Jenna's not even there anymore.
There's more.

(51:46):
It's still pretty good.
I mean, JC does a good job.
Yeah, he's really.
But yeah, I listen almost every morning
with the kids when I take them to school.
We've been doing that since Aiden was in pre-k.
So we're in the merch line and Jenna's in front of us
and she's just like, oh my god.
I was just like, oh my gosh, she's so crazy.
And I was like, I was like, Ali, it's Jenna from Kid Keratik
and she just thought it was hilarious or whatever.

(52:08):
She got like almost everything.
She was just like balling out of control
because it's Jenna.
I want the sweats, I want that, you know, all that stuff.
And then like, we're like going to get our stuff
and like, she's like looking at us
and she's like, oh, you guys are cute.
She starts talking to us.
And I'm like, oh my god, what's happening right now?

(52:29):
And Ali was like, you guys want to take a picture?
And I was like, Ali?
I was like, yeah.
So yeah, we definitely took a picture with Jenna.
It was just crazy.
I need you to find that picture.
I think, yeah, we'll find it for you.
Post it on Instagram.
So yeah, shout out, Jenna.
But yeah, after that, I got a t-shirt.
You know, we sat down and as soon as we sat down,

(52:52):
Kendrick came out, amazing performance.
Saw the Yeezus Tour, saw Kim Kardashian.
Ew.
Yeah, saw the whole crew.
So, and then it was like one of those things
where it was like, okay, now we've got to drive back.
And so we drove back to where our kids were,
fairly easy drive.

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But then we started hearing news that it was going to,
the temperatures were going to drop further
and everything that was on was going to refreeze.
And then probably around seven or eight in the morning,
it was going to start snowing again.
So we got back to the house at like 1.32-ish
after the show and bundled up our kids,

(53:37):
put them in the back of the car
and drove straight to Weatherford from there.
And it was one of those things where like,
I was having to like look ahead with maps
and ways and stuff because there were bridges
that were closed because there were like
jackknife trailers or whatever,
or they were closing them to ice them over

(53:57):
for the night before.
And so like, when we had got to Weatherford,
or I'm sorry, when we got to Fort Worth,
there were a couple of bridges
that were not going to let us go through.
And Alan was like, how are we going to get out?
I was like, I know the back ways.
So like I had to cut over a few ways
that I had known through, you know, in Camp Bowie
and like all that, you can get through over that away
and like go under the underpasses
and then finally you're over there.
So we made it home as the sun was coming up,

(54:20):
like 7 a.m. in the morning.
Long day.
Oh my god. Worth it.
Worth it and also not worth it.
Worth it and also not worth it.
But yeah, that was my 30th birthday.
Hopefully that will not happen to Madison
on her 21st birthday as they see Zach Brian.
It is December again, so you never know.
We are way, way, way, way, way out in the weeds.

(54:43):
I got a real fun.
Yeah, let's hear your gender story.
So way before Heather,
I had just gotten out of a relationship
and my mom was messaging Jenna Owens
on Instagram and Facebook trying to set her up with me.
Oh my god.
She's like, you should be my son.
Like, my mom. Oh my god.
Yes, I was like, stop that.

(55:03):
I was like. The arc.
Had you dated Jenna Owens even once, bro?
There was no way in hell that would have ever happened.
But yeah, my mom was like active.
She's like.
I love your mom so much.
She's like my mom's like.
I have pugs. She has pugs.
I work for Pug Rescue.
Maybe I can get her out to a Pug Rescue event.

(55:24):
You guys can meet.
You guys can Pug it up.
Maybe you can hit up.
I was like, yeah, no, that'll never happen.
Okay. Apologies to our listeners.
We started this conversation off
with favorite unconventional fight movies.
We are now almost an hour into the podcast.
So we're going to cut this conversation short.

(55:47):
I got I thought of one movie.
Do you want to revisit it next episode and have a proper list?
It'll take me two seconds.
Two seconds. Okay.
Eastern Promises by David Cronenberg.
There's one really good fight scene in the in the Haasana.
Unconventional.
Dong's flying.
Dude, I love that.

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That movie is so good.
I've only seen it twice, maybe maybe even a whole bunch.
That history of violence like David Cronenberg.
Love him.
But those movies where he took a turn
and it was completely different than like what he normally did.
Those two movies are fucking fantastic.
Another one that I was going to bring up is the Kill Bill.

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Just quickly, we can talk about these real quickly.
Kill Bill one in particular has a lot of martial arts in it.
There's a lot of martial arts in that movie.
You see a lot of display of different types of martial arts weapons.
Obviously, the katana sword plays a huge role in not only the story arc,
but also in the way that she brings about her violence.

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That's one of those things where I think that because it was Quentin
or because it was so long or because it was two or because of whatever,
a lot of the things that we maybe take for granted
as far as the display of actual martial arts that Uma Thurman put herself through,
the training that she put herself through,
the fact that he hired actual people that knew what they were doing with their skills there

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and they were able to translate on screen so well in such a flawless way.
I had a huge crush on Lucy Liu.
Just like one of my old time crushes.
Maybe we'll come back.
We'll have a proper list next week.
Now that we've talked about Jenna and Kanye and treacherous journeys,

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this week is going to be all about baseball.
We talked about hockey in a previous episode,
and we have this idea of every few episodes,
we would revisit popular sports in America that have a violent incidence in them.
There's a few notorious ones if you're an American listening.

(57:54):
I know that we have several people that don't live in America that listen.
Maybe they're expats or whatever,
but if you don't know about American baseball,
there is no violence in American baseball.
If you do anything violent,
you're automatically rejected.
However, they make a huge spectacle about it,
and it is one of the oldest sports in America.

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It has been televised and written about and made a big spectacle of.
It is our quote unquote national pastime.
There's a lot of stuff to pull from.
I mean, inevitably you could take working in an office and there'd be
like the top 10 most violent things that happen working in an office, whatever.

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Any occupation?
No. When we talk about baseball,
do you have any thoughts before we rip right in or did you look at this list at all?
I have not looked at the list.
I'm hoping Nolan Ryan's not there.
Well, you know that he is.
It wouldn't be right if he wasn't.
Whenever I was doing preparation for this,

(58:59):
we were watching the Phillies last night.
The Philadelphia Phillies are my family's team.
We cheer them on.
I think they're the first place team in baseball.
I might have to look that up.
Fact check me. I'm just saying confidently.
The Phillies are the first place team in baseball right now.
They're the best team in baseball.
Anyway, we were watching them last night and as we were watching them,

(59:23):
I was doing prep for the show because we were talking about this for a while.
I apologize for moving mature.
The first list I brought up,
I just was looking at different things and just going off of what I had.
Number one in the National League was 77 wins, 54 losses.
They're killing it this year.

(59:44):
Can't wait to have a World Series win again.
Anyway, what?
Nationally East, the Dodgers are actually leading the National League West.
Oh, man.
They've won 78 games and lost 53 in the Phillies of 177 and lost 54.

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They're neck and neck.
Well, we'll just call it.
Yeah.
Anyways, the first list I brought up,
I was also encouraging Rhodes to get involved because he was like,
are you doing stuff for your podcast?
I was like, I am actually and he was like, can I help?
I was like, well, I don't really know how you can help.
I was like, but you can help me do my notes.
You can tell me if this looks interesting or talk about this or that.

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He's super interested.
He started making his own podcast.
Nice.
I forget.
I think it's about cereal and something else.
It's like a direct rip off of our podcast.
I love it.
And all he does is like put on his iPad and then like goes around and ask his sister.
He's like, Sophie, tell me how you feel.
So I'm going to get some of those and yes, we'll have to intersperse them or whatever.

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But he's super into it.
So I was like, you know, I mean, I keep on looking back.
I don't even know why.
Maybe there's a ghost.
It's because it's after 11.
Oh, no, I don't care about that.
I know you're closed today, but no, I really feel like there's something behind me.
I'm just like, is there something falling down home?
Kidcratic.
Watch behind you, not up.

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OK, so I was like, sure, you can help out.
And so the first list I brought up, I was like, I just was like looking at the most
violent events in baseball.
Just put that in and the first list I brought up the first like two or three were actual
baseball teams and things that were happening and the rest were like fan kills another fan,

(01:01:33):
fan kills another fan thing.
And I was just like, OK, let's click off that list.
Were they all Yankees and Red Sox fans?
No, there's a lot of a very broad.
I think there was almost every single team represented and I think that was the point
of the list there.
Obviously, any time I've been to a Rangers game or even playing the Yankees.
Gotten into a Yankees fan.

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Yeah.
Fuck the Yankees.
Wow.
Sorry.
No, you're good.
One time, one time I was at Boston.
Yeah, I was an MIT frat party in Boston when I was a much younger man.
And how do you like those apples?
The that was really bad.

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The Rangers were in the playoffs.
OK, this was 2010.
So yeah, I'm at this MIT party.
I see the Rangers game on TV.
I'm just like, oh, man, I've had a few drinks.
I'm in Boston and I'm just like, fuck the Red Sox.
Texas Rangers are in the playoffs.

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They're going to the World Series.
Where the fuck are the Red Sox?
That's what I fucking thought.
Fuck Fenway.
Fuck the Sox.
And I'm at MIT.
So I'm like, it's a bunch of fucking nerds.
Like, I'm sure I will be fine.
I had to leave there very quickly because there were like 15 nerds trying to kick my
ass.
Yeah, a lot of Ben Affleck's and.

(01:03:04):
This is for you.
No peer pressure.
You don't have to partake.
But like the Sandlot, I brought some wacky tobacco.
I'm going to be so itchy.
Is this the apple flavored one?
Yeah, it's my favorite.
Six milligrams?
Yeah.
I might shit my pants.
I might throw up.
All right.
I might throw up, just go down.
Just.
Wherever you can actually move it around, they suggest that you do because it kind of

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gets a little tingly in one spot.
Just play with it after a couple of minutes and move it around.
Oh, it tastes delicious.
You can spit it out whenever you like.
If you just want to like the flavor of it, just to get a little hit of it and then spit
it out so that way you're not.
The flavor is great.
So first on the list that I wanted to talk about here is this fight between Mexico and

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Canada.
There is a national international fight here.
And so what we've got going on, just a little backstory.
No, don't worry.
I just always said, just taste it, get it out of there and don't throw up.
Don't, don't shit your pants.
The itchiness is too much for me.
All right.
So you need to pay attention.

(01:04:08):
Are you going to throw up?
No, I'm good.
All right.
Let me know if we need to pause.
Dog, dog feet, as my uncle would say.
You ever heard that one?
I haven't.
Oh man.
You don't hear anything good.
No, you don't hear Parker and Howard.
You don't hear dog feet.
You get it.

(01:04:29):
What do you call a dog's feet?
Dog feet?
No, what are dog's feet?
Pause.
I got it.
Sorry.
Let me know if I need to hit the dog feet.
My mouth is so itchy right now.
All right.
Let me know.
We're working it out.
And since this isn't a video thing.
No, we're not on that.

(01:04:50):
I don't think anyone understands what just happened.
Oh, well, do you want me to let them know on there?
Or you want this to be an inside baseball type thing?
We're not on baseball.
I'll let you decide.
Oh, it's inside baseball.
People that know will know.
The second that you say Apple and six milligram people like Jordan Klein will immediately
know what's going on.
And he's one of the power listeners that we have.

(01:05:12):
So it takes to find out what just happened, six, eight, two, two, nine, four, zero, one,
zero, one or breakfast of champs pod at gmail.com.
So this first baseball fight we're going to talk about, let me know when you're ready.
I'm ready.
All right.
We're ready.
We have Canada versus Mexico.

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This is the world baseball classic in 2013.
So these are international players.
Some of them actually play in professional MLB, but they're just playing for their national
teams and whatnot.
So we have Mexico is pitching and then we have Canada that's up at bat.

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Doesn't matter who the players are.
It's not a big deal.
What's going on here?
You're going to see right away is this batter is going to lay down a butt and Mexico is
like, you're already holding.
I don't know if you saw the score there.
Nine to three.
So Canada is already winning nine to three.

(01:06:17):
Why are you bunting this late in the game with this many runs on the board?
You're I mean, it's not it's not the world series.
But also like they were just like, what?
Why?
So you know, the guy gets on base and the pitcher is looking at him and like these guys

(01:06:38):
are like, what the hell?
You know, so you see they're going to be replay the bunt.
He lays it down and runs it out and they're not even really trying that hard to field
it because they're just kind of flabbergasted that he would even do that in the first place.
So he leads off and he's even like leading off big like he's ready to still still second.

(01:07:01):
Are they going to beam him?
You'll see.
So this is the top of the ninth also.
Like it's not like the middle of the game.
This is like pitches inside once as a warning.
And then these guys start going, okay, he's going to hit him.
He's like, yep, they're going to hit him because you bought it.

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And all the while, you know, this guy's here and everything.
He turns around and let's know he's here.
Leads off again.
Top of the ninth.
It's been a while since I've watched baseball.
It's so good.
Yeah.
So he already, he already pitched inside once came right back in again, right?

(01:07:44):
Right there.
And that guy's like, nah, man, don't do that.
I know you're trying to hit me.
Chirping at him, right?
And this guy's like, oh shit, what did I do?
The head run fire comes out, warns each team, gives them both a warning, warns both sides
because he knows what's about to happen.
That dude does not look Canadian.

(01:08:11):
The look on his face.
He's put a lot of tongue into that.
Boom.
Inside, inside beams him in the back.
So obviously the catcher trying to stop him like, fuck off.
Yeah.
It's between me and the bitch on the mound.
So the benches for both teams clear.

(01:08:33):
Obviously this is gets way out of hand.
There's a lot of different scrums that actually happen.
There's about four or five separate fights that actually peel off the main fight.
A lot of really kind of just like one person's grabbing one person down to the ground and
then everybody else is just trying to, but there were some actual great takedowns.

(01:08:53):
Down here, the catcher was, he's getting involved pulling people off.
So right now we have one, two, three, four, four scrums, five scrums happening.
You have both benches, both bullpens completely cleared.
You have, you know, usually what my favorite part about all this is usually the main, like
you were saying, the main ingredients usually are not involved.

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The one big guy or a star or the, you know, usually is pulled back versus the other guys
usually down on the ground being protected or whatever.
So he's not really in.
So yeah, this one was crazy.
A lot of great stuff.
You have your own teammates that are trying to pull you off.
They look like they're Keith, he's grabbing his butt a little bit.

(01:09:37):
So this was a really good one because it was like, this is all about respect and like definitely
male ego and the toxicity of like, I don't trust that guy.
No, like the guy with the hood on, I did not trust.
Oh yeah, no.
And they, they're zeroing in on him for a reason.
He looks like Anton Lave.

(01:10:00):
I think he hit somebody and they're like, this guy hit somebody and he's going to get
away with it.
But anyway, it was a crazy like little scrum, but like I said, it was one of those things
where like Canada was a whole bunch and they were still button and trying to still in Mexico
did not want to have anything to do with that because they were like, come on, man, just

(01:10:20):
swing the bat, you know, give us a chance.
We only have three outs to try to come up with seven runs to beat you.
It's probably not going to happen.
Like let's go, let's get these outs.
Let's let us, you know, get a chance to play anyway.
So number 14 right here, we have this yasiel Puig and you'll see what happens here.

(01:10:41):
This is a good one.
So right away, what we didn't see, I'm sorry, let me set it up the way that I did last time.
So this is a game.
It's the Cincinnati Reds and the Pittsburgh Pirates.
And right away you have the, the Reds are off at bat.

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Yassiel Puig plays for the Reds at this point and the Pirates are pitching.
They've got a pretty stud pitcher on the man right now and he pitches inside or behind
him and immediately the ref comes out to warn and the manager gets really, takes exception
of that.
He's like, you know, what's going on?
And as soon as that guy comes out, there's Yassiel Puig and he runs into the pitcher

(01:11:26):
and he was like sitting on the bench.
He immediately comes out and targets the pitcher, which is like crazy because Yassiel Puig is
like an all star, a huge guy.
You know, obviously he's, it's going to take some pulling back, but like he immediately
inserts himself.
Like you're saying, let the two people that are involved kind of duke it out.
When this happens, you know, obviously.

(01:11:47):
I feel like all sports should have like hockey style rules where it's like, Hey, if you've
got beef with somebody else, let's put 30 seconds to a minute on the clock.
If somebody gets knocked down, we're calling it, but just let them have their say and there's
a couple on this list that are like that and we'll get to this.
I feel like that should be every sporting event.
Those are the best 30 seconds to a minute.

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The reason this one is memorable is because Yassiel Puig is actually separated very quickly
because again, he's an all star.
You know, you don't want to get him hurt, but also he's huge.
He could probably hurt a lot of people.
He actually pulls away from his own teammates and chases down other people and it's like
kind of scary.
And so yeah, it's a lot of this is talking, pulling people away, not really actually any

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action happening.
The first thing was Yassiel Puig coming out directly to the starting pitcher to try to
start something with that guy.
And that they all took obsession with, but obviously this was all kicked off by their
manager.
Tempers were flaring.
They were already at the bowling point, but their manager came out and really kicked it
out.
So Vada's got Yassiel Puig right here.

(01:12:55):
He's already been separated.
Look at the backbend on this guy.
They're actually doing like a little Brazilian underhook type situation right there.
And then he breaks free and his own team is tackling him and he gets in there.
This looks more like a football game.
Yeah, it's like a rugby scrum.
He actually breaks free and gets a couple of good ones in on a manager.

(01:13:18):
And so this one was fun for just for the reason to see him like actually having the underhooks
on his own teammate and actually breaking free and looking scary F like he was about
to tackle somebody like you said, a la football style.
So the next one we have, this one's one of my personal favorites.
We have Bryce Harper.
And so I'm going to set this up kind of a little bit before we get well, I'll just get

(01:13:45):
into it.
Bryce Harper and this picture right here, the first time that they met each other, Bryce
Harper and him were chirping back and forth.
And Bryce Harper hit a home run that was like out of the park, crazy home run.
And this picture, I guess, had already told his team and the catcher the next time I see

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him, I'm going to hit him.
Okay.
All right.
Nine hundred and fifty six days later.
That's how long this picture held that grudge and that memory.
And the first thing he does the next time that they face each other after that home

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run is he holds up to his word.
Boop.
Right away.
Bryce Harper throws his helmet.
That was a bad throw.
Yeah, it was.
He's a baseball player.
Come on, dude.
OK.
So there was two really, really good hits.
Yeah, those.
But yes, the helmet slips right at the apex of him about to throw it.

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And they both get a couple of really good right hooks.
Also got tackled to the fucking ground.
Yeah, that was a nasty hit.
But think about that.
Like nine hundred and fifty six days you held on to this grudge.
I've got a few grudges like that.
Dude, almost a thousand days and the next time you see him and it's on site and you
already told you, hey, I told you, I told my teammates, I told you.

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Yeah, not good for him.
I like that.
I like that kind of like, oh, I love that.
There's a couple of good Bryce Harper ones, but that one's particularly cool because if
you were just in like look at this list, you would have known that that's actually the
backstory behind that one or whatever.
Then we got the Cardinals and Reds here.
This one is a like kind of heated rivalry, probably like of all time.

(01:15:40):
But he comes up to bat and before he even throws the this is I'm sorry.
This is the top bottom of the first.
So what has happened is what has happened?
The team has already batted through a rotation and their turn to bat before they're even
you know, before the first inning is even over and before their team comes up to bat,

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this is the first pitch.
This is this guy's attitude right away.
So he immediately gets in the catcher's face, starts talking shit.
They get pulled away.
This is before I mean, nothing has really happened in this ballgame.
This is based off older grudges.
And this is based off the fact that most of these players that are involved in this hubbub,

(01:16:22):
the backstory behind this one is they shared a lot of players back and forth on the team.
So there's a lot of friendships and grudges and old relationships with like managers and
like teammates that like, it's like a weird it's like if you know what I mean?
It's like what's up?
Oh, I thought my mic died there for a minute.

(01:16:43):
It's like, you know, two rival high schools, like basically just swapped half their teams.
And then they had to play each other.
Like there was like you, you should be over here, you should be over here.
So that's all of this.
This was is that, you know, and the managers are actually getting into it because they
don't like each other.

(01:17:04):
There's several brawls that happen and there's a lot of pulling right up against the cage.
Right?
I thought this was this is awesome.
This is good.
It's almost like we're in the octagon.
That is my favorite thing about baseball.
And the fans are right.
They look at all the dust.
They're actually kicking, which is another crazy thing.
You don't really see is like the stomping and the kicking of people that are actually

(01:17:25):
on the ground there because they actually do have spikes on most of the time.
Managers involved in this, like the entire team is involved in this one.
But it's just like one of those things again, like the ego and like, like, you know, I used
to play for you, used to play for me.
We all used to be a family and now we're all one big mix, mixed up, you know, mixed family

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step brothers.
Somebody touched somebody's kit with their balls.
So this is one of those ones that you like where immediately they kind of it is not like
a bench clearing one.
It's like a one on one.
Let's throw let's throw the glove down and actually get it done.
So the backstory behind this is you have the Chicago White Sox.

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They're playing the Cleveland because they're the commanders.
I forget what their PC name is, but I think at the time it was the Indians.
And you have you have one.
Let me start it.
Sorry.
You have this guy gets so they're the guardians.

(01:18:34):
That's what is Cleveland Guardians.
So the Ramirez for the guardians is running from first.
I heard that from the first to second base.
And as he's sliding, what what happens is he slides into second base, but he goes a
little bit past the bag.
And so a lot of like baseball coaches and like everybody tells you to hold the tag because

(01:18:57):
if they step off the bag or you know, if they're not touching the bag in any way, when they
get up or they adjust themselves, they're out.
So he happens to slide like right in between the legs of this player and the player held
the tag and he didn't like I guess how long he held the tag for and the fact that he was
still standing like straddling him.

(01:19:18):
He felt like emasculated by that.
So he immediately got up and let him know that he was not into that sort of thing.
And he also poked him in the face.
I don't know if you saw that.
So Ramirez immediately pokes him in the face.
There's he had his glove on.
So he dropped his love.
Look at that.

(01:19:39):
Look at that stance.
Yeah, he's is that strong Strickland out there.
Like I mean, he's got the high guard up.
He's got his little he's framed perfectly.
Yeah, like if you look at that triangle, I mean, he's already got that lead leg is out
a little bit, but he's still over it.
I mean, he's over here and this dude is not ready.
He's still talking shit.
Okay.
Who do you think is the better in this situation?

(01:20:00):
You telling me that I think Ramirez is going to get it.
He does.
So like because this setup is so good.
It looks like he's ready just to pop Ramirez right in the mouth.
What's crazy is I don't even think if you ask Ramirez that even today, you're like,
who do you think is the better the situation?
He would be like, still that guy because of what happens.

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But anyways, I'll roll it back just a little bit so you can see him poke him in the face.
He gets up, holds the tag.
He's like, what are you doing?
Gets up and immediately pokes him in the face.
Drop the gloves square up.
Boom.
You don't get a good one from this angle.
Actually Ramirez drops him and they'll slow it down here a little bit for you.

(01:20:46):
He like wildly hooked it up here.
I don't know if you saw that.
No, I saw that.
So they slow it down a little bit here for you.
Pokes him.
Squares up.
Squares up.
There's a better angle right here.
So you have a little hook and then that come around.
I guess it was just a wild hook from the hip.

(01:21:09):
Yeah, here we go.
He squares up real nice but the punch he throws.
Exactly.
The punch is terrible.
Yeah.
He looks like he knows but he doesn't.
And he immediately drops his guard after he throws his punch too.
He goes twice but immediately he drops his guard.
Ramirez is like, come on.

(01:21:31):
Weird hook.
He turns over his fist too.
And then watch Ramirez's right.
His right.
He gets him with that.
No the right.
Well he kind of gets him with the left and then he's not even looking.
He's looking at the dirt.
He is literally bent over and half looking at the dirt.

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Just right on the button.
Right on the chin.
Pop.
Oh.
It is crazy how that connects.
And he is not looking.
Doesn't see a thing.
He's definitely bent over looking at the dirt when he throws that punch.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that's a good one.
Pretty good one because you have that one on one square up.
Like you said, a couple of good shots but that guy squared up the way that he.

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I was like, like I said, you look crazy like he was about to.
And then Ramirez with the crazy hook from looking at the dirt.
He literally was throwing a Hail Mary there with that one.
So if you are from around these parts, you already know about this one.
I love this one.
Yeah.
It's one of my favorite ones of all time.

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So just to set this up, you have the Texas Rangers playing the Toronto Blue Jays in 2016.
If you are again from around these parts, this was like heartbroken World Series time,
not just last year when they won the World Series.
So the Rangers had been down bad for a long, long, long, long time.

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My dad's a huge Rangers fan, lifetime Rangers fan.
Been to a lot of games since I was a kid.
Love the Rangers, nostalgic wise.
A lot of good players on the Rangers that don't get celebrated outside of our.
I feel like a lot of that too.
We kind of don't, they kind of don't get this respect that they need and deserve.

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At this time, the Blue Jays were the hot shit, they'd won a couple around that time.
So Bautista in particular is a big cocky guy.
He liked to flip the bat, wore the crazy polarized sunglasses and all that shit.
And so temperers obviously are already high here, but Bautista makes a big mistake running

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from first to second.
What he does is he comes past second base and actually goes spikes first, legs first,
and kind of goes a little higher, almost trying to take out the knees of Runeo Ador.
And so obviously it was intentional.

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He was not trying to go for second base.
He was obviously trying to hurt and injure Runeo Ador.
It's again, one of those things where it's like, come on, you already got the, you already
got the championships, like you already are that guy.
Let us have a chance.
Don't injure us.
Like don't take out one of our better players because you know we're going to win or because
we have a chance by injuring us.

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It's such a pussy move.
Like don't do that shit.
So what we have here, yeah.
So I love this one so much.
So obviously he tries to take him out.
You don't see it initially because they cut away from it, but there's a big fracas.
And so when you watched it live, you really didn't see what happened.

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Other than this guy just does kangaroo punches.
They were looked really short, really sure.
He was like spinning in a circle.
Yeah.
So, so as we're watching this live, you didn't really see what happened.
But thank goodness.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
For the whole time.

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And he's hilarious.
He's like, come on, man.
Come on, man.
I'd be whispering in his ear.
Yeah.
So what you didn't see is so all we saw was the throw because there was a double play
on obviously we didn't get the throw in because basically the dude tried to take his knees
out who could make a good throw when someone's trying to take your knees out.
It went way past first base.

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So the cameras followed the ball.
We didn't really see what happened.
And so the camera crew and the news crew did a really good job covering this a little bit
later and this is a really long video.
But basically what you see happen is Runeo Dour actually basically decks the shit out

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of Bautista and one of the best punches I've ever seen.
It's watching it with Rhodes.
He was like, he punched his glasses and his helmet off his face, pushed him.
Makes us space.
And then boom.
Boom to the jaw.
I mean, and then right down on top of him.
Flaps him with the glove on top.
Like fuck you Bautista.

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And that's when Beltray locked him up for the entire time because he's like, you're
going to get hurt.
You don't want this.
Go back to Canada.
So that was one of the greatest feelings and sports.
I remember we rode that high in the Metroplex for like a good month after this.
I think he ate at Heim for free after that.

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Is that right?
They had a big sign that says Runeo Dour eats here for free or something like that.
And if I remember correctly, there was a mural in Arlington of the punch.
This was huge.
Again, it was like the second coming of the Nolan Ryan.
This was like a fucking hero's welcome after throwing that.

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And it's such a good fucking thing.
Runeo Dour will forever be ingrained and engulfed as a hero in and around these parts, no matter
what team he's played for, no matter what he's doing, he is a hero forever and always
because he put the bully in his place right away with one good punch and it was beautiful.

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Yeah.
So if you've never seen that, I mean, obviously you have access to YouTube and all that good
stuff, but if you want to see a bully get put in his place by a good guy, just YouTube
that one.
It's Jose Bautista and Runeo Dour.
So this one right here is an older one.
I love the older ones.
This is one of those ones.

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I think we're a couple of people just square up.
We have the Baltimore Orioles playing the Seattle Mariners in 1993.
King Griffey Jr.
I don't know.
I don't think he's a Moosina.

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He played on the Mariners in the early mid 90s.
Moosina strikes somebody out here.
Oh, they're in Camden Yards.
You can see there.
They keep on replaying this for so long.
Oh, that was a nasty hit.

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I like that he just fucking booked it up to the mound.
The guys who take their time so it gets broken up.
Nah, fuck that.
Just fucking bum rush him, get it in before everybody else gets there.
This is a good one because they're all, again, this is back in 93 so we have a lot of grass
and dirt.
It's a big dust up.
One guy's holding another guy back.

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Obviously, they're all cleared.
That was Mike Moosina and Bill Hasselman.
I don't really know the backstory of that one, but it was a good old school dust up
on good grass.
Then the next one on the list.
Okay, so we have Pete Rose and Bud Harrelson.
This is a very famous, famous one.

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I won't do too much backstory in it.
There's a lot of people that have probably done this story a lot of times.
They're fighting before they even get to the ground, obviously.
It's a lot of old school footage of Pete Rose and Bud Harrelson, 1973, a little dust

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up.
All the benches clear, obviously.
I think it was, he took exception to the slide.
It was another one of those, he slid too high or too long or spikes up or whatever and just
took exception to the slide.
There's probably a backstory behind that that I'm missing, but like I said, it's been covered
probably a million times.
It's one of the really famous ones.

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We have Chris Volstad versus Niger Morgan in 2010.
This is the Washington Nationals and we've got the Florida Rays, I think.
So immediately the pitcher pitches behind Niger Morgan.

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It was almost like he was trying to hit him, but he missed a little bit and went behind
him.
And Niger Morgan drops his bat and immediately runs full sprint ahead at the pitcher and
decks him.
But then that's what you have.
So the first baseman comes out of nowhere and he clotheslines the crap out of Niger Morgan.

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He didn't see that coming.
He did not.
And it was full speed ahead.
So just one more time, pitcher pitches behind Niger Morgan, Niger Morgan throws the bat,
runs, and out of nowhere the first baseman.
Boom.
He just takes his ass out and then everybody piles on the beach and beats the shit out
of him.
That dude is fucked.
This is literally one of the biggest dog piles I've seen of people just punching, punching,

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punching, punching.
You ever clothesline somebody like that?
No.
I have.
I have been clotheslined like that inside of a bounce house by a friend of mine and it
cracked my rib and I wasn't right for like three years.
I got thrown out of a basketball game for doing that to somebody.
Bounced his head off the hardwood and then stood over him.
I've done a pretty good hard screen, but I've never clotheslined somebody.

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I got ejected from that game in the next two years.
I love that one because like I said, Niger Morgan just out of nowhere.
He looks like he's about to decimate this pitcher with the speed and veracity at which
he comes at the pitcher.
Oh, I did not see that coming.
Neither did he.
But holy shit.
That was good.
So we have right here a really, really old.

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65.
Yeah, 1965.
Vintage.
And the reason this one is even on the list for me to talk about with you is because I
have never in my life seen a team attack another team with the baseball bats.
Yeah, I've never seen that.
I mean, obviously in hockey we've seen sticks and stuff like that, but this is a clip.

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And that's the thing that I was actually thinking that earlier.
It's like you're fucking with a dude with a baseball bat and I've seen what a baseball
bat does to somebody's face.
Right now.
How about several?
Oh, several, not just the one.
Damn.
Yeah, that one guy that had.
It's one Marshall versus Johnny Rose.

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I was just assuming it was probably the Yankees swinging the bats.
Hold on one sec.
Yeah, because that that that's something that I mean, I know it's like a mutual respect
and you're probably going to catch a charge if you're swinging a baseball bat at somebody.
Sandy Copax is pitching.
Hold on one second.
I'm going to look at I'm still feeling the like 30 seconds of Apple that was in my mouth.

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I'm still feeling I'm sorry about that.
I mean, whatever.
Oh, so it was the San Francisco Giants.
And oh, San Francisco Giants and the Dodgers.

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Oh, that makes sense.
So that's why Sandy Kovacs was pitching.
Yeah.
So yeah, that does make sense.
But crazy, crazy list.
I mean, crazy, crazy, crazy to see that one team would actually go to the great lengths
of bringing out several bats and not just the one that was definitely not a.
So this is one of my favorite ones.

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You know about this one here.
I don't know about this.
OK.
So a little lower on little old Renee Floyd here.
You get.
I'm a little lightheaded.
Let me know if we need to pause.
No, we're good.
All right.
So little old Renee Floyd.
Again, I moved around a lot and I was trying to find my identity all the time and things
that were like separate from like like what I should be like.

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I was like one of the you know, you should be listening to the Beatles.
You should be a Texas Rangers fan.
You should be a Dallas Cowboys fan.
This wasn't like for me because I didn't grow up around here and like, you know, one of
those things were like also like my dad had his teams and was really like into sports,
but I kind of wanted to have my teams.
So the kind of lore is that I played on a Red Sox team and a little league team.

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And so I always liked that logo and those colors.
And then between I think it was like high school and college.
At some point I was driving down a road and I saw a hat and it was a Boston Red Sox hat.
And it was like cool and brand new and not scuzzy and or whatever.
And I was like, obviously this is a sign.

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I'm going to grab this hat, took it home, cleaned it, awesome hat, wore it for like
a good couple of months was my favorite hat.
You know, broke college kid, cool hat.
And then I just started like that was like one of the things too is like whenever growing
up you're like, well, I didn't know a whole lot about the Red Sox because I didn't grow
up there.
But like we had just now gotten the internet around the time that we were in high school

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and college.
And obviously we had access to the encyclopedic knowledge that the internet brought.
And so I just went on a huge deep dive of like the history of the Boston Red Sox and
like the whole legend of like, you know, selling Babe Ruth and the curse and just all of the
amazing players that played for the Red Sox fell in love with the history, with the lore

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and just was like from that day forward, I was like, I'm a Red Sox fan.
And so what was crazy is the second that I decided to be a Red Sox fan, there was two
things that happening.
One, there was a crazy like convergence of like players that came to play for them.
And there was also a movie that they were going to go to the World Series and there
was also a movie that was being filmed at the same time.

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That Jimmy Fallon drew Barrymore movie.
Fever pitch.
Fever pitch.
So I actually was like living that movie that season in real life because I was a Boston
Red Sox fan, like kind of a newer Boston Red Sox fan, but like filled with all this backstory
and knowing the fact that the curse is actually a thing and like all of this stuff.

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And so whenever the Boston Red Sox won the World Series, I felt such elation because
I was a fan and like fell in love with Johnny Damon and the whole team and like bought the
shirts.
But you know, I was in, you know, as a Red Sox fan.
I had a Red Sox Nation, hashtag Red Sox Nation, all that stuff, right?
And then the movie came out and it just like made me like validated me even more because
I was like, yes, I would like, I know about this.

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I was part of this in a small way, you know, like I had nothing to do with it at all other
than being just like my positive energy from Dallas at the time or whatever.
So they were my team.
And so what's cool is obviously not only do the Red Sox have this like lore between like
the curse, but they just have this rivalry with the Yankees that is obviously well documented.

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We don't need to like go into it.
You know, you just say Red Sox Yankees to anybody, whether they're sports fans or not,
you know.
So at this time, this is, it's actually a playoff game between the Red Sox and the Yankees
and it's in 2003.
And so what's going on is we have like kind of a pitchers duel between, you know, really

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good pitchers, Roger Clemens is pitching for the Yankees.
And so you have a lot of huge hitters too, you know, Pedro Martinez is pitching for,
I mean, I mean, Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, I mean, Hall of Fame, all time, you know,
amazing.
Think about, you know, just like the greatest pitchers you can think of, they're on the

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list, you know what I mean?
So you have Pedro Martinez that pitches a little inside or a little outside and then
Roger Clemens comes out and repays the, you know, the debt.
And so bench is clear.
And the reason that I love this one, not I love it, I just think it's hilarious for
the visual of old Don Zimmer, you know, older guy, the manager, legendary manager rumbling

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out of the dugout to confront a younger, more athletic and fit Pedro Martinez.
And it's not violent at all.
It's just kind of comical the way that he charges Pedro Martinez and Pedro Martinez
gently grabs his bald head and guides it to the ground.
And it's one of those classic all time, you know, videos and images and baseball.

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So we'll just take a look here.
So Pedro Martinez hits that guy right there.
I don't even know that guy's name, but Tubby McTubberson.
He pegs him.
Look at young Derek Deer, just looking good.
So Pedro stares him down, he's like, yeah, I hit you, take your base, whatever.

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Chewing his cud.
Yeah.
Joe Torrey comes out, wants to say something.
Derek Jeter don't like it.
He's like, just take your base guy.
Tells them, you know, what are we doing here?
Gotta, gotta warn him.
He's you know, talking shit to the dugout.

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I see you.
All this stuff, making a big, big show of it.
So the next inning or the next, you know, part of the inning, throws high and Roger
Clemens is like, come on.
So that's Ramirez.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so bench is clear.

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Pedro's actually in the dugout, but he's cause he's pitching.
He comes out with his and here comes Don Zimmer.
Come on, old timer.
Let's go.
Come on, guy.
And then NYPD is patting his back.
Just the way that he gently guides him to the ground.
He's like, all right, man, if you want to go, a lot of John.
All right.

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All right.
Here's your head.
There's the ground and he rolls two or three times and NYPD bats him on the back.
Good job.
It was just like one of those, the most like, and I think that he's just villain.
Like that is the one of the like, you don't do that to Don Zimmer.
Like, what are you thinking?
The cow could look at, Oh my God, I haven't been that close to the ground in years.

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I always thought that Don Zimmer is Bobby Hill all grown up.
He just managed his way onto this.
Cotton Hill.
If you didn't, yeah, that's right.
Boom.
One of my favorites of all time.
And then of course fans are like, you don't do that to Don Zimmer.

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Let me get arrested for this for no reason because I have no part in this whatsoever.
This is my team.
I live in New York and everything sucks.
Yeah.
We're going to back to back at the very next year.
We got the same teams again.
And we have the Red Sox plunking Alex Rodriguez and Alex Rodriguez says F you several times,

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several times.
And Veritek the catcher who's not involved in that a few several times has enough of
his mouth and his F use.
Cause he's right there in his face.
Eight rods, obviously, talking to the pitcher, but Veritek had the pitchers back and nobody
likes Alex Rodriguez.
So he just had enough of it and he goes ahead and gives it, give him a little one, two,

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a lot of kicking, a lot of stopping on the ground in this one.
Yeah.
And obviously was flared up by Veritek just not having enough a rods mouth and he had
popped them a good couple of times in the face there.
See if they run that back.
Nah, just a lot of hubbub.

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So finally, the fact that this is number three, I can't wait to see.
It's not number three.
It's number one because we're going to do these next and then we'll save that one for
the last.
Good.
So we have Armando Benitez and Tino Martinez in 1998.

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We have the Baltimore Orioles and the New York Yankees.
And I keep on doing that.
My bad.
My bad.
Okay.
I have the fattest thumbs and fingers known to man.
It's just noted.
So we have Yankee hitting a home run to an empty stadium.

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I'm guessing they're playing in Baltimore.
Yeah.
Boop.
Little.
And then Baltimore taking exception to that because Yankees were up so he went ahead and
plunked the next guy.
He said, what do you want from me?
What do you want?
A little what do you want?
Honest mistake.
A shrug.
That's like the shrug emoji.

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And then of course, bench is clear.
Highlighting down here.
A little push from behind that instigated that push.
But it was a teammate pushing a teammate.
Yeah.
But he was like, they were both like.
God.
Okay.
So what I've learned is most baseball players don't know how to throw a punch.

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No.
They just windmill.
Yeah.
There's very few of them that square up the right way.
Yeah.
I mean, Rudy O'Doore, pretty good.
Yeah.
What we've learned is in Texas.
That's the way.
This one is into the dugout.
There's no way out after this.
Yeah.
No, this is all piling on top of each other to several people.
It's like a mosh pit a little bit.

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I love it.
All the while, George Steinbrenner is appalled.
This is not the Yankee way.
And then we have the San Diego Padres versus the Atlanta Braves in 1984.
We have both benches clearing, obviously.
Boom right there on the elbow.
So there's a lot of lore on this one.

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I looked it up.
It's a very interesting story.
You have a young Joe Torre as a manager that it's involved.
The batter that got hit, Perez, is not ejected because he actually stays out of this.
He just got hit.
And this is also notable because the referee is very large and tumbling on the ground on

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top of the players.
That was like John Candy.
So there's the guy that actually got hit.
And he's just, oh.
Yeah.
We have full Goldberg Spears happening.
Love to see you.
And again, this humongous referee is still on the ground rolling around with these guys.
There's the young Joe Torre.
And so this guy's got a headlock on this guy.

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Then he helped him up afterwards.
This guy's really enjoying the position he's got on that guy.
And so a lot of crazy ejections happen.
After all of the tempers flare, a lot of ejections happen.
Like I said, Perez is not one of them that is ejected.
Here comes another guy coming full speed ahead to this guy.

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And he's not going to let him get to where he wants to go.
Now we have three, four fans jumped in and they start stomping on this guy a little bit.
Is that the ump?
No, that was another guy.
There's the big ump.
He finally got up.
Finally got up.
Yeah, but this guy's like trying to harbor himself from the fans that have now gotten

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involved.
This is the one that I actually saw that I was like okay with the fans like getting involved
because they're not any, nobody's like killing anybody else.
It's just like good old fashioned, like get off my pitcher.
You know?
Yeah.
So this is a crazy one.
It gets even crazier because Perez actually comes up to bat again and the next pitcher,

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one of the pitchers that's not ejected hits him again and they all bench is clear again.
So the number one fight clip of all time in baseball lore obviously comes from the Texas
Rangers once again.
They are, they've got Nolan Ryan on the mound.

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If you don't know anything about Nolan Ryan, again, if you're not from around this area
and you're not a huge baseball fan, I suggest even if you don't care about baseball, just
take a deep dive into Nolan Ryan and aside from this fight alone, the man was just a
crazy amazing pitcher for both the Houston Astros and the Texas Rangers.

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Just multiple Cy Young award winning pitcher, just like a crazy amazing strikeout master,
a lot of perfect games, a lot of complete games, just like and played well, well, well into
his years.
And so we have an older Nolan Ryan facing a younger Robin Ventura and Nolan Ryan plunks

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him and Robin Ventura thinks that he's going to come out and teach the old man a thing
or two.
So he drops the bat and immediately runs and Nolan Ryan grabs him immediately in like this
headlock neck tie and gets several good punches in on Robin Ventura's head and face and just

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really gets in on him.
And so it was really an amazing iconic image that if you're from around here, it's on
several t-shirts, it's like framed in artwork.
This is a Texas national holiday.
Yeah, I mean, if you don't know about this game or about this incident in particular,

(01:47:10):
it's crazy cool to get into the lore of it all.
There's a little bit of backstory there as well.
But again, you have an older pitcher that is a Hall of Fame pitcher that has played
for two, you know, Texas teams that has gotten the bed, the better of a lot of teams.
And I mean, he's losing his hair, got a little bit of a beer belly, probably already owns

(01:47:34):
a car dealership or two, probably already has links in the store.
Yeah, exactly.
And, you know, Robin Ventura comes out and thinks that he's going to charge the mound
and immediately just slips into a headlock from the left of Nolan Ryan's arm, gets him
in a headlock and with the rights just rains blows on his head.
And Nolan Ryan classy gentleman as he is after he gets up, buttons his shirt back up, you

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know, he's ready to pitch or fight some more depending on what we're doing.
So we love baseball for a myriad of reasons.
It's fun to watch.
I love newer baseball.
I don't know if you've seen like the newer pitch clock.
I haven't really kept up with baseball in a few years.
Yeah.

(01:48:21):
I would suggest maybe like, you know, in a day that you have like off like Thursday or
something like that, just like see what's on for free on ESPN because usually there's
a game or two on even teams that you don't care about and just see the new pace of the
game because it's really zipping along.
They have, I think, 20 seconds to throw a pitch.
So as soon as the batter gets into his stance and as soon as the pitcher settles into his

(01:48:42):
stance, he's got like 20 seconds to live.
I know they've been trying to like revitalize and get people interested because I know the
viewership was way down there for a while.
Yeah.
So I enjoy the pace of the game.
It's pretty cool.
They're also trying to change some of the rules on how you can slide and the things
you can do to limit some of those injuries and that sort of thing and kind of keep the

(01:49:03):
game hopping along.
And so yeah, so cool.
If you've not checked out baseball this season or the past couple of seasons with the new
pitch clock, do so.
Let's shake a look here.
Are you good or you want to?
I might need to wrap up.
Let's wrap up.
Okay.
I'm feeling it.
Okay.

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We've also already gone 149.
So this might be one of our longer episodes.
So let's just talk quickly about you saw contenders.
So we can talk about that.
I watched all of episode two.
It took me a few days, but I got through all the fights.
So one of the more controversial ones that we saw that was the Tory Finney fight, it

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was a boring fight.
I very much agree.
It's on that.
That guy was a huge, thick muscular guy and the height disparity was just crazy on that.
He was five, seven, five, five, five, four, a good day.
And so Dana White really kind of went in on him on his like post fight assessment.
I told you to get better, not take one fight.

(01:50:08):
Yeah.
And so he got a lot of pushback on that because there's a lot of people pulling for Finney,
but I kind of was like a hundred percent.
We both had like a hundred percent agreement with Dana this week on his like contracts
that were awarded.
The fights were exciting when they weren't even kind of when they weren't.
The Finney one was kind of the boring one, but the other ones were just like, you know,

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very exciting, very cool fights.
Poor Pat Pitlick.
Yeah.
I was rooting for him with that.
Me too.
Gustafson.
Yeah.
I thought that dude was fucking me just straight out the gate.
Yeah.
Like a fucking pit bull.
So a tie into the Pat Pitlick is, I don't know if you've seen any of this season of
the ultimate fighter.
No.

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So I went back and kind of have been checking it out.
We'll wrap up here in just two or three minutes or whatever.
You're good.
So Pat Pitlick was on this season of the ultimate fighter.
His wife actually ran into Dana White before that.
I told the story.
I know, but I watched Dana White looking for a fight.
And so I saw the Pat Pitlick fight.

(01:51:14):
That's what I was talking.
I didn't mean ultimate fight.
The wife was like, Hey, you got to and then he goes to the fucking bathroom and misses
the whole fight.
So that's the tie in.
I wanted to bring in if you saw the looking for a fight.
I did mention that last episode.
It lives on YouTube.
We enjoyed that one with the cold plunge, but that is also the same episode that we
discovered Pat Pitlick.
He came into the USC lore from that episode.

(01:51:34):
That was his fight on content.
I'm sorry, in contenders there.
He lost that fight.
So thank you for joining us.
We appreciate you.
If you have any questions, you want to talk B movies or crazy stories, my favorite B movie,
my girl gives a holler 682-294-0101 or breakfast at champs breakfast of champs pod at gmail.com.

(01:52:01):
If you can't handle your six milligrams of Apple, let us know because I sure as fuck
can't have a great day.
Tell us about your favorite baseball stories.
We'll talk to you next week.
Bye bye.
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I'll see you in the next one.
That's me, that's me, I said, I said, I said

(01:52:25):
Everything is
Just a matter of process

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