Season 1 Episode 23 - Great Coaches and Scrapple!

The time has finally come—we're going to try scrapple live on the podcast! For those of you who have no clue what scrapple is, please don't look it up; trust us and give it a shot. We had the luxury of having a real East Coaster, Allie (Rene's wife), cook us scrapple flown in from Delaware. It has been built up this season, and it did not disappoint. We paired our scrapple offering with the always fantastic Pillsbury Toaster Strudel, strawberry-flavored. Parker may have invented a new breakfast sandwich in this episode...

Have you ever heard a really motivational speech in person? The energy transference is palpable. There are often golden moments caught in between rounds during combat sports events involving fighters and their trainers. The relationship fighters have with their coaches often resembles a father-son relationship, and the microphones can pick up some compelling and rousing speeches. We listen to and talk about some of the greatest of these moments in the UFC and boxing.

UFC 308 is this Saturday; we preview the card and make our predictions. Will Max Holloway regain his belt and place it alongside his BMF belt? Will Robert Whittaker stop the hype train and give Khamzat his first loss? Let us know your picks by calling us at [phone] or emailing us at [e-mail].

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
You're in big trouble though, pal. I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.

(00:08):
You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
No.

(00:41):
Yes!
Two, one, rolling. Welcome, welcome. Season one, episode 23, Breakfast of Champions. How are your levels? Hot? Good?
It's a little hot, but I'm good.
You're four. I can turn you down a little bit. Is that?
That's good.
That's good?

(01:02):
Yeah.
All right. I'm about the same level as you. Okay. Welcome everybody. Season one, episode 23.
This is our Michael Jordan episode.
That's right. We had an idea. We had this idea where we were going to invite Jordan Klein on the podcast and not tell him that we were going to interview him as Michael Jordan.

(01:28):
We could have still done this on episode 45.
That's true. Maybe. He's a dedicated listener, so there's just no way that that's not happening.
Yeah. So thank you for joining us. We've made it to episode 23.
Obviously, if you're watching us on the YouTubes, we're not in center. We're back at my house.

(01:52):
So if you watch the episode with Allie and myself, this is the kitchen table, obviously.
And just we're going to pause a second so you can hear what's going on in the back.
Dog toes.
And it's not sizzling as good as it was when we first started.

(02:17):
Hold on.
That is the small faint sizzle of Scrapple.
So we've been teasing this episode since we first kind of started talking about it.
We have some Scrapple from Delaware.
It's been sitting in our freezer for quite some time.

(02:41):
Yeah, from Harrington, Delaware. It's the real deal, guys. It was brought here all the way from my homeland.
Not Harrington, but Delaware.
So if you've never had Scrapple, you don't know what Scrapple is.
I would just say, do not look it up. Don't look into it.

(03:02):
So I shouldn't read the ingredients. Yeah, no, no, no. Don't look into it.
Just try it first. And then after you've tried it, you can kind of get into what it actually is.
So do you think that Liver King eats Scrapple raw?
He does everything raw. Yeah.
I mean, oh, no, I unplug myself.

(03:24):
I don't know. I don't know.
Stuff on my cord.
Yeah, as as per the usual, if we're having an episode at my house, they were will be cats everywhere and they will eventually knock something over or unplug something that's really important.
So. So, yeah, you brought up Liver King.

(03:47):
Have you any more updates?
I haven't watched anything like since the last thing I sent you, but he just seems.
I I'm wondering if it's acting because if you go to his website, he has a deal with Netflix to do a documentary.
So it could be his redemption arc of like, look, he's this positive guy and he's got all these millions of followers and he's preaching a healthy lifestyle.

(04:12):
Oh, no, he spends fifteen thousand dollars a month on steroids.
Oh, no. Now he's losing his mind because of all the steroids.
But raw liver and bull testicles will bring him out of the psychosis and make him whole again.
The Trinity, the Trinity.
Liver. Yeah.
Testicles. Yeah. And hearts. That's right.

(04:34):
Holy Trinity.
So if you don't know who the Liver King is, he is a larger than life personality that kind of burst onto the scene maybe two years ago or so.
Three years ago, he made his claim to fame by just being like this shit house of a human being just like stacked, yoked any way you can put it.

(04:56):
And he was claiming that he was all clean at first. Obviously, he was not.
And so he had to make this apology.
And now he is very open with what he's doing, how he's doing it.
And it just is a little unhinged.
I will I will say I watched two or three of the videos that you sent me plus a couple more recommended ones.

(05:18):
And there are some claims that he's allegedly on more than just steroids like math or he's been saying in his videos that he's taking vitamin K and then we'll just say that he's on ketamine.
Yeah. But people are also thinking maybe like math or something else.
Like there's also a video of him in Poland in like a crack house. It's really weird.

(05:40):
Yeah, it gets weird out there.
It's crazy because it's like you can.
It's the same thing with Connor where like I'm not on drugs and you're like, you're clearly on drugs.
You don't act this way unless you're on some sort of drug.
So the Scrapple is being made for us currently as we speak.

(06:01):
We're about to try that live on air.
We have the Wikipedia article pulled up here just to kind of give you some background.
Like I said, I don't really want to go into what it is.
It is some sort of pork with combined with cornmeal and wheat flour and spices.
And it's very popular in Pennsylvania and Delaware, Maryland, any of the mid-Atlantic states.

(06:27):
It is a Pennsylvania Dutch like specialty delicacy Mennonites and Amish people really love the mess out of some Scrapple.
We have a Scrapple Festival.
My sister told me this morning there's a Scrapple vodka.
Oh, that doesn't seem very Amish.
Is that true? Is it an Amish?

(06:50):
It says right here Scrapple is commonly considered an ethnic food of the Pennsylvania Dutch, including the Mennonites and the Amish.
I didn't know they were considered an ethnicity.
Well, now you know. Learn more every day on Breakfast of Champions.
Those buggies, man. They're always in the way.
I actually got a really crazy Amish story from when I was on tour one time.
Hit it.

(07:11):
So I grew up in central Illinois. So we had Amish towns like outlying and we would go there.
But when I was on tour, I think it was 2008, we had played in Des Moines, Iowa.
Shout out. That's when my dad was born.
Hell yeah. Des Moines was actually the best show of tour. It was awesome.
Slipknot country.

(07:32):
Yeah, we played with a band called Skeleton Breath. They're on Spotify. They're awesome.
They don't have any vocals and they have an electric violin player and they just shred.
Before Yellow Card or after Yellow Card?
This was after, but they're not. I'm just kidding.
They're from Brooklyn. The violin player kind of looked like Howard Stern. It was awesome.
That's what's up.

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But our next show was supposed to be in Tulsa, but it got canceled.
So we're like, we made the most money of all of tour at this show. Let's just drive as far as we can.
We had a long drive tomorrow and we'll stop at a hotel in like Kansas City or something, spend the night and then finish the drive home.
So we're driving and we're out in the middle of nowhere.
And it's just prairie and we're needing gas. And it's like midnight 1 a.m.

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And we pull off on a gas station and everybody goes inside. But I'm on the phone.
I'm talking with somebody and right then like a lightning flash happens and there's giant like thunder heads.
And again, it's just prairie and then a gas station in the highway. And that's it.
And right when it flashes, this horse drawn buggy comes speeding down the road in front of us.

(08:43):
And it's dark out. It's a flash. So all I see is just the black.
Yeah.
And it's just racing down and then like a few minutes later, another flash and I see it like on down the road, just hauling ass.
That would scare the shit out of it. It was awesome. It was surreal.
We wrote a song about it because it was so cool. I love that. Yeah.
So Scrapple is fully cooked when you purchase it.

(09:05):
It's typically cut into quarter inch to three quarter inch thick slices.
And then it's pan fried until browned to form a crust.
Sometimes people coated in flour first. You can fry it in butter or oil.
Sometimes people even deep fry it.
Scrapple is usually eaten as a breakfast side dish.
It can be served plain with either sweet or savory condiments, apple butter, ketchup, jelly, maple syrup, honey or mustard.

(09:33):
There's also very popular Scrapple sandwiches for breakfast bagels with Scrapple on them or, you know, just a Scrapple sandwich with egg.
Or cheese to go along with it. So very popular.
Have you had it before we talked about this? No. Okay. This is your first time.
This is first time. So I've had it twice and I will just reserve my comments until after we're done.

(10:00):
So I also I'd say I probably go twice a week to both Wal-Mart and H.E.B.
And I always have to peruse breakfast items.
And so the one that I sent you this week that caught my attention that I had forgotten about and is just super nostalgic for me is the toaster strudel Pillsbury toaster strudels.

(10:27):
So I got some of those last night. I got a 12 pack of the strawberry.
And so we're going to have that as kind of like our sweet part.
We also Ali and her family always have king syrup to go with their Scrapple.
So we're going to have that as well. So we're going to have a nice balanced breakfast this morning. My body is ready.

(10:49):
I came hungry. Let's see here. What have I got on my notes?
So we're going to rate and review that. It looks like it is just about done.
OK, here we go. We're here.
All right. Thank you.

(11:14):
All right. Here is this Scrapple.
Just you can hear it playing and then drizzle whatever you got to do.
It is very thin and crispy. I do have some thicker pieces so you can kind of see the difference.
It smells like sausage. All right. Cheers.
This is Scrapple playing.

(11:42):
That's good.
I like it. I like it.
I'm going to start now because that's going to really blow your mind.
I did it real thin. I will say out of the three times I've tried it, this is probably my favorite time.
Because I did it super thin for you so it's nice and crispy.
Murray, you don't need that.

(12:06):
I will say also, judgment.
Also, there's a microphone right next to you.
Sorry.
I just meant if you want to talk shit, talk shit on the microphone.
Oh, got it.
I definitely put too much on there.
That's okay.

(12:27):
I will say now that I've kind of looked into the ingredients, I understand it more.
The binder being flour kind of reminds me of a pork chop whenever you fry pork chops up.
All right.
That's really good.
Yeah, it's good. You don't have to just say that.
No, I really like it.
Okay. All right. Man, I got to convert.

(12:50):
All right. It's really good this time.
Okay, good.
I don't know if maybe just.
I think it was too thick before when you've had it.
My grandfather was like the king of the crispy.
Like the very, I don't know how he got it so thin. It's hard.
I have a lot of extra over there and you can't, there's so much water in it.

(13:12):
Like you can't like congeal it back into a, like it's just mush now.
So if you mess it up, you're done.
So and other times we've had it, we've had it with other things like pancakes or something else.
I think trying it by itself before you have any other like flavors in your mouth allows you to appreciate that there is a meat flavor and then there is like a flour coating to it and that it's not just like, you know what I mean?

(13:42):
That's the thing. I think people end up not liking it.
I was telling Parker like friends of ours that have gone like our neighbors and they were like, we didn't like it.
It was mushy. It was like soft and I'm like, yeah.
Yeah, if you cook it wrong.
Perfect.
Try some.
I will.
There's more.
Try some now on camera.
We're here.

(14:04):
You don't want anymore.
I want you to try some on camera.
Over here?
No, I mean, it's.
It's delicious.
Okay.
My mom makes this every time I visit.
She knows because I can't get it here.
Although we did see it in the freezer section, but like I said, it's like from Minnesota or something.
We also saw it like way back in the Minnesota Minnesota way back in the day.

(14:29):
We saw it at like Central Market and there was like a weird random state.
I was just going to say.
Oh, yeah, all this good eating noises.
Oh, zero to six pigtails.
Zero to six snouts.
Just kidding.

(14:51):
Give a solid six.
Solid six, babe.
I would.
Absolutely.
I would say, like I said, this being my third time trying this is you've really knocked it out of the park.
This is a wonderful representation of Scrapple.
Like I said, don't look up what's in it.
Just try it.
And then afterwards, you can kind of blow your mind as to what it actually is.

(15:16):
Obviously, when we have guests on, we always talk about.
Excuse me.
That's exactly what we talk about.
We talk about burps and farts and stuff like that.
No, but we always talk about peasant food, oatmeal and stuff like that as far as like because I feel like a lot of times.
Ethnic food that is oftentimes like, quote unquote, poor food tends to be the tastiest, the most nostalgic, has the best stories.

(15:48):
And, you know, you always see the romanticized movie of like the rich guy going back to the neighborhood because they just don't make milkshakes like, you know, where, you know, where he is now.
And so I think that Scrapple is very interesting if you've never tried it before. It's got a lovely story to it.
As far as like we just found out there are ethnics that are having this breakfast and they've crossed over to babe does Scrapple sometimes they have it at Wawa sometimes.

(16:18):
Like in their sizzlies or something.
I thought I dream that stuff.
Royal Farms has a Scrapple egg and cheese.
Oh, RoeFo, the evil pop of Wawa.
I will say because this is frozen, it's not as tasty as, I mean, it's tasty but it's not as tasty.

(16:40):
So we need to do it fresh. We need to time it when my family comes to visit too.
We need to take a trip.
Go to the source.
Yep.
I'm going to just get one for Parker. You can make it at home now.
It's really good.
Yeah, so we thank you, Ali, for making this for us this morning.

(17:01):
We've also like I said got the toaster strudel.
Were you allowed to have these as a kid? Yeah, yeah, I was more of a pop tart guy though. Yeah, I was too much time I could just rip open a pop tart and eat it. Oh yeah, I was sometimes allowed to have these and was.
I love them so much. They're so good.

(17:22):
I just started appreciating them until I was an adult and I was getting them for my kids.
But I am really considering turning it into a Scrapple sandwich. Do it.
Actually, I think we'll just do a half Z.
So my favorite part of toaster strudel is whenever, especially when you're a kid you don't really like have patience or even know about like you know temperatures when you're cooking so like the edges of it are super like burning hot and then you get into the middle and it's like still cold.

(18:00):
So I like to put Scrapple and pastry strudel. Very good.
Babe, Parker put Scrapple in his pastry. Whoa, yeah, so pancakes Scrapple sandwich like that's pretty good too. We do that.
You think my dad can make a sandwich out of anything.

(18:22):
Anything.
All you need is bread right?
Idiot sandwich.
Is hot dog a sandwich?
No.
Glyzzy in its own category.

(18:43):
It's hot.
This is the better question is hot dog and taco. No, a taco is a taco.
I think hot dogs close to a taco. You got foldable bread, meat, sometimes you put some sauce on it. No, I would say like a hero or like a that's gyro.

(19:04):
I was like, like a Cosby sandwich.
No, like a Greek sandwich is more like a taco than a hot dog.
I would I would agree with that as well. But I think that hot dog is an American taco.
What do you do with like bratwurst and I mean those are not. It's a German taco.

(19:27):
See, no, I think it's just the shape that's throwing you off.
Hey, oh,
thank you. Appreciate you.
Those are still cooking on the other side.
Okay, I'll do my best.
I'm chef.
I muted that microphone. So,

(19:50):
so today we had a couple of things to talk about, you know, you need a napkin of some sort or in a minute.
I'm still eating. I'll probably get continue to get messy.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
So I don't have to watch it.

(20:12):
Oh, I left it on. Oh, he's always I leave the oven on all the time.
He's always like, baby, still cooking.
And I'm like, no, you know, I'm not so good.
I don't know that sometimes there's like mystery cookies or you're cooking nuggets for roads.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who leaves the oven on.
I think it's called out about it.
I'm not calling her out. If I was calling her out, I would say, babe, you left the oven.

(20:37):
But I'm being respectful and not calling her and specifically saying, hey, you done with the oven?
That's good, right? I get the same plausible deniability.
Sometimes I leave the burners on because we've got gas burners and I'll just be so hungry and focused on eating the walk away and the burners on.
It's like, hey, are you still cooking? And I'm sitting there eating like, no, sorry.

(21:02):
Let me go turn that on. My bad, doc. I was just very hungry.
Mm hmm. Sorry, this is a lot of dead air, but that's OK.
We've never watched that much. These are some of my favorite things.
And with the Scrapple on it.

(21:24):
Oh, I'm going to try that next.
Highly recommend. I'm glad I came hungry.
Yeah, man. That had been a weird episode if you're just like one bite.
I'm done.
OK, while you you can still eat, I'll just kind of transition us. So we we normally talk about fights and fighting and fighters and like fun stuff.

(21:55):
But today I wanted to talk about kind of focus more on some of the moments that have really captivated and Murray's really looking for some sort of treat.
Scrapple, I'm sure you had Scrapple, though. Yes.
Some of the moments that have really captivated my mind and attention.

(22:17):
And I guess like I have the soft spot for coaches, corner men.
I think in another life, maybe I was a coach or I will be a coach.
I think that if I dropped every single thing that I was doing right now, went back to coach, went back to school, focused on coaching and like I could totally be a high school football coach or basketball coach or something like that.

(22:44):
I just have like that in me, I guess. You know what I mean?
And so I guess that like that's kind of also where I get my love of like teaching music and stuff like that or like forming a band and like or, you know, just like kind of quarterbacking any of the situations that, you know, I'm in creatively.
So maybe that's why I like subconsciously. I love some of these moments. And so I just kind of wanted to talk about for those of you that don't watch combat sports, boxing, MMA as religiously as someone like I do, you might miss some of these moments.

(23:23):
The other thing that I was thinking about whenever I was putting this list together is during the pandemic, the UFC was the only like sports thing going on.
And so they were putting on fights in the apex in Las Vegas, putting everybody through testing and making sure that it was done right and everything. But because, you know, like everybody was on lockdown, the apex was empty except for the fighters, the corner men, the referees, the commentators and Dana.

(23:54):
And also that was the first time that like during the rounds, you could clearly hear corner men shouting instructions. And so we've talked about that before as far as like Ali and I really getting into it as a family during the pandemic.
And I think it was for that reason that it was just like that extra layer of information coming in that really kind of like sparked us. So even in movies like Friday Night Lights or like, you know, they even make fun of it in Varsity Blues.

(24:34):
And it was just that like coach being like that figure of like pulling you through what you think that you couldn't do, you know, inspiration.
And so I put together a list of some of my favorite moments. We've both watched them. And so I'm just going to play them and we can talk about them as we play them.
The first moment that I would like to talk about is because it is very recent is Leon Edwards versus Kamara Usman. So to set this up a little bit, Leon Edwards and Kamara Usman are fighting for the belt.

(25:13):
Kamara Usman has the belt. He's had it for quite some time. He seems like he was unbeatable. Leon Edwards has had a really long, hard, difficult road in the UFC.
His father was murdered when he was young. He has dealt with some like really serious freak injuries. So he's never had like the consistent on making a run through the UFC. And so once he got his opportunity to go for the belt, it was one of those things where like it felt like it was almost like a long time coming for him.

(25:51):
And there was a lot of adversity. And so during this fight, if you don't know, all championship fights for the UFC, if you're fighting for a belt or if you're a main eventer, you have to fight for five rounds instead of three.
And so this entire fight rounds one through four, Kamara Usman just dominated the fight and Leon Edwards went back to his corner and he was really dejected to the point where he wouldn't even look at his coach in the eyes.

(26:27):
And so his coach really was trying to motivate him, tell him, you know, like, hey, like, where are you? Like, you're still in this. You can't let him bully you. And so the entire fight, it was very clear that Leon Edwards was losing.
And so the commentators made a comment that.

(26:51):
So, yeah, I'm going to let this play for just a second.
So as we're watching Leon has his eyes closed he's not facing his coaches, and he's not looking at his coaches in the eye.

(27:18):
So what we're hearing is the end of round four, Leon Edwards immediately goes back to his coach.
I wanted to point out there to.
I don't know if you saw it is very quick but as his coach went to pour his water. His hand was so shaky.

(27:44):
And so the emotion that it must take to invest time and energy into someone else, and then have them not believe in themselves.
Yeah, you know, it's, I mean, obviously not on this level but I've definitely experienced stuff like that.

(28:05):
It's wild. Well, like as a manager sometimes you invest so much in your people and you show up for them in hopes that they show up for you and you're coaching them to be better at what they do to hopefully do more and grow and whether it's with you or somewhere else.
And when they're beating themselves up, it's like, you got this like I'm so yeah like I.

(28:30):
I was just watching I know we just so silly I bring this up almost every podcast now but I was watching last night, Rhodes and I had some time together. He was like asking me if he could watch some music and I'm like sure.
And so he put on.
Not my suggestion, birds of a feather by Billy Eilish.

(28:52):
You subliminally yeah, but it was this other video that we hadn't seen any asked me to watch it with him and it was like the story behind the song and so during that second verse talks about like, you don't even see how I see you.
Like if you could only see how I see you wouldn't even believe it. You know what I mean? And so I feel like that time a lot of time as the manager like we know like the people that we can count on and we know that like they are they have it in them.

(29:22):
They just don't believe in themselves, you know, and it's like, if you could only see what you know and sometimes you got to push and sometimes you gotta go to not fun places to push people.
So it's a work setting, but especially like here. Yeah, so during between rounds four and five.

(29:43):
There was two comments that were made. I believe Dean Thomas said, you know, a fighter is given up when he won't even look at his coach in the eyes. He was like, that's how you know that he's basically given up.
And right as they were getting into the fifth round.

(30:09):
He didn't get knocked out by tomorrow. He didn't get submitted by tomorrow, but at least he went five rounds. And he was like, if you're fighting that way, you're losing, you know, so his coach. I don't know if you heard that I'm going to play it back one more time between four and five.
Listen, stop saying.

(30:52):
What you're hearing now is the roar of the crowd as Leon Edwards hit head kick tomorrow's been into the nether realms.
So the thing that gets me is that the entire time is like, you know, he's like, don't let him bully you. And then finally, that fifth round Leon Edwards finally believed in himself and he said, I'm not.

(31:13):
And then he goes, well, then come on, then let's like pull it out of the fire and fucking go, you know. So those moments are like, whenever I saw that, bro, because like everything was stacked against him, like his backstory, the fact that he'd been injured, the fact that four rounds had just gone by and he got his ass kicked.
The fact that he wasn't believing in himself, the fact that the commentator said that there's just no way that he was going to be able to like do anything to get anything more than a moral victory is just like crazy. So I'm going to skip over Teddy Atlas and come back to him last just because there's a few of them there.

(31:48):
This one I love because, oh, you had made your notes.
Yeah.
So Alexis Rocha.
I'm going to set this up. Alexis Rocha is undefeated at this point in his career. He okay. This is also in not USC. This is in boxing. So just to let people know they're like, who's Alexis Rocha if we're thinking about UFC this we flipped over to boxing now.

(32:17):
He is undefeated and for the better part of this entire fight. He really was like, not fighting like confidently. He was scared to kind of let his hands go. And so this is special to me because I have a lot of Mexican family members, and I have, I can hear this particular speech slash the intensity of this love speech.

(32:46):
It sounds like it from the outsider it sounds almost like he's like telling him off almost you know but in reality he's just keeping it real with him and letting him know. So, Alexis Rocha, this is his corner man, as he comes back after losing this last round.

(33:08):
You're gonna fucking hate yourself in the morning. Why are you pulling back.
He's hitting the right hand.
Alexis, where are you supposed to be.

(33:38):
So, basically, yeah. He was like, just like what happened to the, like we talked about this like just like, God damn it. Just like all of that is just, is like my childhood like as like, you know, like, and the also like to have the like you have 60 seconds in between rounds.

(34:07):
Yeah, but to have the wherewithal to be like, I asked you a question don't tell me yes I want to know why like what's going through your head slow it down enough for you to tell me what you're doing, you know, and so this is, like I said near and dear to my heart so after this very rousing speech,
Alexis definitely listens to his quarter men. He doesn't back up. He goes straight ahead and he lands, a right hook, and then a left hook, and then several body shots that said his opponent down to the canvas.

(34:41):
He finally believed in himself he finally let his hands go he finally was, you know, not scared to stand in the pocket.
So he definitely won that fight so.
We'll get into Teddy Atlas now. If you have never watched boxing, if you have never seen like highlights of boxing, you may not know Teddy Atlas as a character in boxing but the man is so big that he's actually crossed over into all combat sports, and so you may recognize

(35:21):
Teddy Atlas's name because he comes over and analyzes the boxing in the UFC and so he is a boxing corner man.
And he is very famous for a lot of his cornering speeches and so before we get into Teddy Atlas, I want to get some more scrap. Yeah, get some out. So, on a snack for this. Yeah, this is a long one so you're gonna, you're gonna need a little snacky.

(35:48):
That's cool.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Good situational awareness.
Pause for eating and reloading of snacks.

(36:16):
Oh,
scrappled up.
I'm going to grab one thing as well.
I just thought about it.

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Just in case we want to have a taste.
I almost bought one of those.
I did have four shots of espresso. Yeah, we don't have to but I didn't want to show it. I love caffeine though so.
So, like we were talking about Teddy Atlas is a boxing corner man and so to set this first one up.

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This is Teddy Atlas is advice to his boxer. When it comes to being in the fire.
So,

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Is just to build some foundation.
invented in
That's great.
This really gave that extra strength and three of his name tags.
he gave that his fighter that extra strength that he needed to to go ahead and contain to go and finish that fight.

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So it reminds me of in the worst of the Christopher Nolan Batman's in my opinion,
Dark Knight Rises where Bane's like, I was born in the darkness. Yes, you really inhabit it,
but I was born and that it's like, we do all of this in the fire so that when the fire comes to us,

(38:40):
we're ready to go. That's right. And yeah, I was not super familiar with Teddy Atlas before you
said this to me, but now after watching this video, I have gone and watched a few more. Yeah, I'm gonna
watch some more even after this. Yeah. He Yeah, I mean, he just seemingly knows exactly what he

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needs to say to pull the emotion, the energy, the like want out of his fighters. So this next one,
this is a, this is a difficult one, because this is a fighter that doesn't speak English and Teddy
Atlas doesn't speak, I think Russian is what it is. And so kind of got me misty. Yeah, the first

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time I saw it, I was like, Oh my god. So this Russian fighter, he started the fight off really
well. He had won the first two or three rounds pretty, pretty handily. And then the fourth and
fifth rounds, he begins to kind of like lose steam and let it slip and his opponent started really

(39:44):
kind of tagging him. And so Teddy Atlas knowing that he was fighting for the inspiration of being
his father passed away. And so he wanted to make sure that this fight was dedicated to his father.
Teddy Atlas basically gave one of the greatest speeches of all time whenever it comes came to

(40:08):
pulling something out of his fighter. And so like I said, let's just let this roll and then kind of
come back to it.

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Oh, man, he simply, it's me so hard. He simply asked him, do you believe in magic? And also
basically was just imploring him to be like, you know, you win this fight, people are going to be

(41:06):
talking not only about you, but also the memory of your father. And so he really wield him to
come back into this fight. It almost seemed like it was a different fighter following the corner
advice he came through and basically just demolished his opponent. And then at the very end

(41:27):
of the fight, as soon as the bell rings, the other fighter knows that he let it get away.
But Teddy Atlas immediately comes into the ring, raises his fighters hands and points up to the
sky. And the second that I saw that I was just like, you know, and he gets the belt. And then
as they're celebrating in the ring, they hold up portraits of his father. And so it was just like

(41:53):
the complete package whenever it comes to like a fairy tale story of like,
you're winning, but you're losing. Then you come back.
Like that, that's some Hollywood shit right there. Like, but not.
So this one, they actually shortened this clip that there's a longer clip for this one.
This is his famous, you're blowing it. You know, you're blowing it son.

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This is actually that TV judge, Judge Mathis. That also refereed boxing. And so in between rounds,
which is pretty unconventional, you don't want the referee kind of coming to your corner,
invading your space, or even kind of hearing that like your fighter may not want to fight.

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But almost like reverse psychology, like Jedi mind trick. After this round, Teddy went and grabbed
the referee and brought him back to the corner and basically was like, I'm about to tell him
that we're done here. If you don't want to fight, I'm like, we're done here. And so
this one was really good because it, like I said, it was kind of like a Jedi mind trick.

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He pulled it out where he was like, it seems like you don't want to fight. And then the
fighter was like, wait, I do want to fight. So.

(43:35):
And so in round 11, he came back and both of them are extremely exhausted, but
land some great overhand rights and his opponent just doesn't ever get it from that. And then
there's one more. Teddy Atlas, obviously being the first one over the ring to congratulate his

(43:58):
fighter almost looked like he pulled his back. Yeah. So they stopped the fight and here's Teddy.
Like Superman's over it. Yeah.
Okay. Here we go. Here's the last one of this one. I believe I think this is the last one.

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And that was actually against Manny Pacquiao. So one of those things where it's like
the reputation preceded the fighter, but Teddy Atlas was like, I don't care who we're fighting.

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Yeah. Like just give me, I know who you are. Give me six minutes. It's not about the first
20 or whatever. So like Parker said, if you don't know who Teddy Atlas is, just do a simple Google.
Where's this coming from? I don't. Spooky haunted music. I know, right? Just do a simple Google and

(45:13):
put in Teddy Atlas and I'm sure plenty of videos will come up. He's just a great corner man. He's
provided a lot of great sound bites throughout the years to rouse and rail, rally his fighter.
Whoa, not rail as fighters, rally his fighters. So from the UFC, which one? There's the really bad

(45:37):
one. Sean Shricklin. No, no, no. Tiki Gosen. Yeah. He might. That was a bad joke. No, it's okay.
No, Teddy Atlas. I, the note I put was like, I need a motivational speech from him every day.
Dude. Like if Teddy Atlas was on cameo, I would pay ungodly amounts of money for him to just be

(46:01):
like, you're blowing it. Get your shit together. But the way he delivers it, like it has a swell
to it of like an emotional intensity and then like a cool off of like, I mean this, I care about you.
That's why I'm being so intense without ever having the same. Yeah. And like also just being like,
I know what you're going through. You're thinking about your dad. You're not thinking about boxing

(46:24):
right now. You're thinking about your dead dad or you're thinking about, you know, the fact that you
lost the first few rounds or whatever, like get out of your own goddamn head and realize that
we've got two or three more rounds to put this shit together. I know who you are. You've done the
training with firemen. I need him in my life because my mind is my own worst enemy. Me too.

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It's just like, I need somebody to yell at me with that intensity and that love to pull me out of
that and be like, Hey, your head sucks. Your inner monologue sucks. Stop listening to it.
But sometimes there are funny or even controversial corner advice. So one in particular that,

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and this is kind of the reason that I started thinking about this moment, not only because I
love all of these moments separately, but because if you were watching us during the fight companion,
during the sphere card, during that fight, we had a sugar Sean O'Malley's coach, Tim Welsh get called
out for what is called excessive coaching or excessive cornering because he was calling out

(47:31):
Merab's name. And so we do have some of that thing where you have like, you had Sean fighting Aljo
and his coach, Sean's coach says, okay, it's time to go Aljo. And Aljo thought that it was his coach
telling him that. So he went forward with like an overhand right. And it was just like perfectly

(47:54):
timed counter from Sean and knocked him out. So that's kind of why we talked about that. That's
kind of like the funny thing. Like his excuse was that some of their call outs for like their
striking moves and stuff like that have their opponent's name in it, but like there are billions
of names. Why, why do you choose the one that's going to get you in trouble? I never, I didn't

(48:15):
get that. I never got that defense. Oh, here you go. How to deal with. All right. Oh, does he have
his own podcast? Teddy Atlas motivation. All right. How to deal with fear. So we're going to look at
this one right here. It's super funny.
Yeah. So sometimes you hear some really funny ones. There is a very famous translator back in like

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the 80s, like late 80s, early 90s, that was very animated and he always translated any of the
Spanish speaking fighters. And so you would be listening to him and the corner advice, you know,
you'd hear him be like, they'd say something in Spanish and then he'd be like, if he hits you in
the balls, hit him back in the balls. And then he'd be like, here, let me put some water on your

(49:17):
balls. He would say like all of the, like the funny controversial things. And like he would just like,
it was like, you could tell that he was so like locked in and it was like, I need to say everything
that I'm locked in. Yeah. And so the guy would be like, what the fuck are you doing? And he'd be
like, what the fuck are you doing? And so yeah, you can, you know, if you could get lost in the

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world of like finding these funny or controversial clips when it comes to like cornering people.
Let's see this next one right here. Oh, this one. I didn't want to play this whole entire one.
Actually, is the last one I sent you, is that Mike Berry? I didn't get to the last one. Let me see.
I was trying to watch them in between. Okay. No. Okay. So this one right here,

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this one right here, there is a law, there's a couple, there was probably like two or three
fighters over the past couple of years that have elected to have either like their girlfriend
or their wife in their corner. One of the ones that is, that comes to mind and is funny to me is
is Mike Perry. He is the bare-knuckle guy that kind of is always involved in like a little

(50:29):
controversy. He actually just got arrested last week for driving while intoxicated and also
called the police a bunch of FAA words. And then he released an apology and immediately was found
out that he used chat GBT for the apology. So anyway, that's Mike Berry. I didn't want to actually

(50:50):
apologize without chat GBT in 2024. No. Yeah. Also, I think if you put any sort of text into chat GBT
dictator, they're like, yeah, this sounds fake, but it's like, okay. Anyway, he famously had no
one in his corner except for his girlfriend at the time. And the entire time he would come back and

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it was silent and she'd go, you're doing good, baby. You're doing good, baby. And that's the only
corner advice you get. So I just wanted to play this first one because it was a good example of
having your significant other in the corner with you. That's the coaching you don't need. You don't

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need somebody telling you you're doing a good job or to coast. It's like, you need that person,
even if you're doing good, you need that person to be like, you got to push through. You got to keep
going. Exactly. It's the max Holloway moment of like, he won the entire fight, but he still
pointed to the ground and said, Justin Gaethje, let's go. I'm going to knock you out in the last
10 seconds. Having your girlfriend tell you that you won the first two rounds and you could coast

(51:56):
the third and then you lose to a decision must be one of the worst feelings in the world. So
the last one that you didn't get to see. So let me set this up. Chris Eubank is a really
animated boxer from the seventies and eighties. And he famously, I didn't include this one,

(52:18):
but he famously had this fight where he has like a, so fighting is scored like on a 10 point system.
Usually like a close round is like you won the round, you got 10 and I got nine. If you really
dominated the round, you get 10 and I get like eight. And if you knocked me down and whatever,
I may have lost a point. I think there's even like a 10, seven. So Chris Eubank had boxed this guy

(52:44):
and had just won like a 10, eight round. Like he clearly dominated the round. And so he was like
strutting with his hands down and doing all this and just like, come on, hit me, hit me for like
the last 10 seconds. So when he got back to his round, I'm sorry, when he got back to his corner,
his corner men slapped the shit out of him and was like, you stop all that showboating. He's like,

(53:04):
you could lose it, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's Chris Eubanks. Like he just was like a
character. Well, his son is also now a boxer and Chris Eubank is his corner man. His dad,
the famous showboater got slapped is now the corner man. And so his son comes back from a poorly

(53:25):
fought round. And this is, I'm not going to put the microphone up to the speaker because there's
not, you'll see. Okay.
So that's Chris Eubank. That's a look.

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Do not adjust your set. Nothing is being said. For once, a few words.
For once.
Never expect the expected.
So for the entire 60 seconds, he didn't say one word. He just stared at his son. He's like,

(54:44):
was sitting back from like 10 feet away and just kind of like, Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. But it's all like,
also every son has been in that. Yeah. You're ultimately, you're disappointing your father
right now and he doesn't need to say a word. He's just like staring at your heart. What I did,
why you're mad. I'm sorry. I'm going to make this right. You don't have to say shit. Yeah.

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Yeah. So this Saturday, we've got a fight. We boy, oh boy, do we got to fight. It is UFC 308.
We've got a Max Holloway versus Ilia Toporia. And if you've heard our podcast before, or,
you know, us in person, you'll know that we've spoken about Max Holloway quite at length. I've

(55:33):
got a shirt with his face on it. He is currently the BMF title holder. He fought Justin Gaethje for
what Dana has taught, what Dana has brought to the, to, to the UFC as a baddest motherfucker belt.
Basically there's no rankings involved. There's no, it's basically just who the UFC thinks is

(55:58):
the baddest motherfucker and they put them together and they fight each other. And then, you know,
there's a belt. So there's been like three BMF holders. Max Holloway is the current BMF holder.
His last performance was so electrifying and so entertaining that they said, you know what,

(56:19):
you get another crack at the belt, the real belt, not the BMF belt, like the actual belt.
He's had it before, but you know, it's just one of those things where he still is in his prime,
still doing the thing. So they're going to give him another crack at it. So as always, we scroll
down to the bottom of the car. We start things off with a light heavyweight bout between

(56:42):
my fat thumbs and my fat fingers. Ibo Aslan, Ibo, Ibo Aslan and Rafael Serguera.
Debut. Yeah. Debut. We've got a shadow of a man. He also has a professional record of zero, zero,
zero. We don't know where he's from country-wise. We don't know it. He's just a shadow man.

(57:06):
Yeah. So this guy, Rafael Serguera is fighting Ibo Aslan. Ibo Aslan is from Turkey and he looks
pretty stacked, pretty yoked, pretty hot. He's the last Ottoman from the Ottoman empire, I'm guessing.

(57:27):
Okay. So we never give deference to people that have debuts. He's from Brazil. He doesn't have a
picture. So I think we should just go with Ibo Aslan. Next fight, we have a welterweight belt
between Renat Farakretdinov and Carlos Liel. If you couldn't tell, Renat is from Russia.

(57:54):
He looks scary. He's got one of those Dagestani beards, looks like he's going to be a hard
wrestler. And we have also got Carlos Liel making his debut. So the thing with Carlos Liel is his
record is 34, nine, and two. That's insane. Which is crazy. I don't know where they're pulling that

(58:17):
from. What organization has he fought over 40 fights in that we haven't heard of this guy before?
But again, no sort of knowledge as far as his height, his weight, where he's fighting out of.
Do a quick Google search on that. Gugs that guy. Renat Farakretdinov. Man, I'm good at these names.

(58:43):
While he's doing a quick goog, I pulled this out of the refrigerator because I saw this online and
also I saw it at the Walmart and I just couldn't pass up. If you're a fan of ghost energy drinks,
they have this limited edition electric daisy carnival edition electric limeade energy drink.

(59:06):
Also, the can is embossed. I don't know how to say, would you say embossed?
Yeah, definitely embossed. Yeah, it's got like a raised graphics and lettering. So they really
went all out on this packaging and detail. And from what I heard on Reddit, somebody said that

(59:27):
it tastes like a Sprite from McDonald's that has been left out on the counter for about an hour.
So I'm going to crack that open here in a bit. I just had a Mountain Dew, a Gio.
Got a Dew the Dew. So when I Googled him on ESPN, it comes up with a different record for him.
It comes up with a photo too. 21-5-0 is what they have on ESPN. He also looks like a BMF.

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Oh, that's pretty tight. Not a blessed man forever, but a lion. Okay.
Honestly, I have him. I know he's a shadow person.
The record and the pretty cool picture. Let's go for it.
He got boulder shoulders. The only thing though is it's like,
I don't care how cool you are, if you can't wrestle, then you're not going to beat a Russian.

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Yeah, that's true. But it shows that he's an MMA fighter.
Like, hey, okay. Let's gamble. Let's go with Carlos Lille, the lion.
Oh, cool. Okay. So yeah, he's the underdog anyway. So yeah, we're definitely going to
put money on him if we put a hundred dollars on him and he wins, we're going to get 385 back.

(01:00:42):
So let's lay some chalk on that. Chris Lille or Carlos Lille. Sorry.
Yeah. When he's prepared and healthy, he's a beast. Don't be surprised about an upset.
Okay. He beat the shit out of Ray Cooper, the third,
which probably isn't as impressive as it used to be. So yeah, apparently like

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people on the internet are vouching for him. Also friends, if you care about this card and
you're trying to actually see it, I do have to let you know that this card that's happening on
Saturday is super duper early for us because it is taking place at Etihad Arena at Yaz Island
in United Arab Emirates in Dubai. So when they had Fight Island back in the day, they created Yaz

(01:01:35):
Island and Etihad Arena is right there. So this is actually going to be happening probably about
12 o'clock PM. Our time is when it's going to start. Yeah. It seems, no, actually I'm off on
Saturday. Nice. Yes. So yeah, it'll be at early start. So wake up, have your breakfast,
then watch the UFC. It'll be a perfect breakfast of champions. Or you can brunch too.

(01:01:58):
That's true. You could brunch it up while you watch the UFC somewhere. That sounds nice. Yeah.
All right. Next one, we have a middleweight bout between Ismael Norediev and Bruno Silva. Morocco
versus Brazil. We've got middleweight, so it's going to be at 170. So this guy's going to cut

(01:02:20):
down to 170. So they look pretty evenly matched. Does this dude have some cool tattoos or what?
Yeah. Death or what? Let's see. You got to check the feet. Yeah. I got to look at the feet.

(01:02:43):
No tattoos for this guy. I want to go Bruno Silva. Yeah, me too. I mean,
he just looks a little bit more marauding. Yeah. Let's go Bruno Silva. All right. Next step,
we've got a bantamweight belt between Fareed Basharat and Victor Hugo. Fareed Basharat is a
huge, huge favorite in this. Looks like if you put down $625, you would get back $100.

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So yeah, this is one of those ones where if you put $100 on Victor, you'd get back $555. So
it could be an underdog upset, but we've got Afghanistan versus Brazil.
This guy's never lost. So that's kind of why he's such a big favorite.

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Very similar in stature, very similar in reach. So I don't think I'm going to go against that
huge money line and I'm going to go Fareed Basharat. This guy's in for it because it looks
like this guy's on a streak here. Okay, cool. We've got big guys here. Now Chris Barnett was
supposed to fight Junior Tafa last week, but he pulled out and so they have him fighting Kennedy

(01:03:56):
in Shuku this week. Chris Barnett, his physique is very, what's the word I'm looking for?
I don't know the word. His physique is, what's the word where like it looks like it, but it's not that?
I don't know. He looks really big and like he couldn't move very well,

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but the gentleman is very nimble. Yeah. I mean his appearance is deceiving. That's the word I was
looking for. Okay. Okay. He is very deceiving. The height difference and the weight difference in this.
Yes. So Kennedy is 6'5 with an 83 inch reach at 205 pounds. Normally he fights at 205, but he is

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going up to heavy weight so he can weigh up to 266 pounds. Okay. So Chris Barnett will actually have
to cut a pound and a half. That's hard work, but then Chris Barnett is 5'9 to 67 and a half with a
75 inch reach. Also the leg reach, there's an eight inch difference in leg reach. There's an eight inch

(01:05:09):
difference in arm reach. And then that's what? Seven, eight inch different in height. Yep. Like,
whoa. And we've got, believe it or not, he's the favorite. Yeah, no. I mean, his record. It's a

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pick him, but oh, I mean, Chris Barnett is one of those guys where like he will not only fight in
the UFC, he'll go over into a grappling match with like black belt, jujitsu players. He does back flips.
He does the splits. He like is a very athletic, nimble, explosive, like cannonball of a person.
So it's a very interesting fight. It's like almost like UFC one where it's like, let's get some

(01:05:57):
freaks together and see who comes out on top. So I'm also interested to see what Kennedy weighs in
and how much weight. Yeah. I mean, so if he doesn't have to ever cut weight and he normally walks
around at 220 or whatever, then it'll be a little bit more parity there. But what are you thinking?

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I think it'd be cool to see Kennedy win. Yeah. But I think Chris Barnett's going to take it.
All right. Chris Barnett. Next up, we've got a middleweight belt between Abus Magomedov
and Bruna Ferreira. Both of those last names are very familiar because you've got a Dagestani
Russian wrestler that is part of Habib's team. And then you've got Bruna Ferreira coming from

(01:06:44):
Brazil. So he's probably hanging out with all those Brazilian nerds that are doing their grappling
thing with their glasses and all that. Have you seen those guys? Like they wear the, so they've
got, they actually call themselves the Brazilian nerds. They're like, they put on black, like super
black with the tape in the middle, like nerdy nerd stuff. They're Jedi mind tricks. So Bruna's only

(01:07:05):
lost one time. Their height is pretty comparable. You got 6'2'' versus 5'10'' both weighing in right
at 185. Homeboy over here has got a little bit of a reach advantage, about half of a foot.
Hmm. I think I'm going to go Abus.

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I think so too.
Abus.
Those Dagestani wrestlers.
Yeah, man. Even though it says he's fighting out of Germany, but oh, but it also says Russia.
Yeah. So he may be training in Germany. Next up, we've got a Bentamweight belt between another

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Russian Dagestani, Saeed Nurgatomedov and Daniel Santos. So that since this fight is in UAE,
it's like a home turf for them basically. 18'3'' versus 12'2'' they're both shorties, 5'8'' and 5'7'.
Yeah.
I think I'm going to have to go Saeed Nurgatomedov.
Agreed.
He's also the favorite. All right. Lightweight belt.

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Matos Rebekky versus Mikhterbeck Oralablai.
Hmm. I'm not familiar with either of these guys.
Nah, but they're both. I'm going to go with him just because he's 5'10''
Let's do it.
Yeah. That guy. Mikhterbeck Oralablai. All right. And in the future prelim, we have number 10 Jeff

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Neal versus number 15 Hafio dos Anjos in the welterweight division. Both these guys are really
exciting veterans of the game. Seen them both fight many, many times.
Jeff Neal likes to stand and strike. Hafio dos Anjos does too, but he also has his black belt
in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. So.

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That record of 32'16'' and oh was.
Yeah. Dude's been in the game.
Yeah.
Jeff Neal.
Yeah.
Let's go with Jeff Neal. I think that's a good pick. Hafio dos Anjos is kind of on the back
swing. So, all right. Kicking off the main event, we've got Shara Bullitt Margatomedov

(01:09:23):
versus Armin Petrosian. I don't see Shara Bullitt losing anytime soon. So, this is the one-eyed
ginger giant wrestler from, that's part of Habib's team and all that. So, yeah, I don't see
Armin Petrosian providing any sort of a problem to Shara Bullitt Margatomedov. So,

(01:09:48):
all right. Get this out of my mouth.
All right. Next up, we've got Margomet Ankaliya versus Aleksandar Rokic. This fight is going to be
crazy. Both these guys are huge human beings. They probably weigh closer to 230, cut down to 205.
So, they're going to bounce back up to about 215, 220 the next day. Both are 6'3'' and 6'4'' so

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height, not a big deal. And yeah, I mean, reach is within three inches. Leg reach is exactly on.
Margomet Ankaliya is the fighter that the UFC is keeping away from Alex Pereira. So,

(01:10:40):
I'm going to go with him. Yeah. I want to see him win.
Yeah. I need to see him fight for the belt. I need to see him handily take out Aleksandar Rokic
and then immediately get on the microphone and say, Poetan, where you at?
Yeah. So, all right. Featherweight bout between
Lerone Murphy and Dan Ege. Dan Ege is the fighter that whenever we talked about pulling out a couple

(01:11:07):
weeks ago and he was already in Vegas and he called Dana and he fought Diego Lopez on short notice
whenever Brian T. City Ortega pulled out. So, he's a G. I give him bonus points for putting
himself out there, taking a fight on basically a day's notice, making the weight, making the walk,
being a G. I don't know much about Lerone Murphy. I know that he's English and I know that he likes

(01:11:33):
to fight fast, but I think that Dan Ege has a little bit more of the experience on his side.
Absolutely. Especially on those records. Yeah.
Yeah. Dan Ege. Let's go.
Let's go, homie. Don't let us down. Okay. All right. Co-main event.

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The reason that we came up with hashtag pulling out or the pulling out segment is because of that
gentleman right there. His name is Hamzat Borzhchmaev. He is the scariest fighter in the UFC
by far. He fought, I think, three times in like four or five weeks a couple of years ago. He has

(01:12:19):
had this issue where if he trains too hard, his body revolts against him and he starts getting
flu-like symptoms and none of that is going on right now. He is on target for this fight,
not going to pull out. So Robert Whitaker has held the belt before, has fought many, many times in
this division, is still in his prime as what people like to refer to him as the gatekeeper

(01:12:43):
of the division. If you can be Robert Whitaker, then your next step is for the belt. Robert,
I think, sees himself as still a challenger for the belt. So I think that he sees if he takes care
of Hamzat, the scariest man in the UFC, then his time for another title shot will be after this.
Whereas Hamzat has been ready for a title since the second that he came. Hamzat was born in

(01:13:08):
Chechnya. He had a cleft palate whenever he was born. So he is war torn, scary looking,
and not ever losing. I mean, you can see every time he fights, his guttural spit,
scream of just being ferocious. So I am excited for this fight. I do think Hamzat is going to win.

(01:13:32):
I do too. I hate to see that Robert Whitaker fall,
but I think that Hamzat is just too much for just about anybody in that division.
So, all right. Now we've come to the main event, title weight bout in the fifth weight division
between Ilya Toporia and Max Holloway. So like we said, Max Holloway, he's had the belt before.

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He's had the belt at 45 and at 55, I think, no, just at 45. And he's kind of toggling back and
forth between 45 and 55. He has made sure that... So the last time him and Justin Gagey fought,
they were at 55. So he's coming down to 45 to take this belt. Like I said, he's had it before.
Great boxing, great striking, great chin. I don't see Ilya Toporia being able to... I mean,

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he's never been knocked out. So this would be a first if Ilya Toporia is able to knock him out.
I'm scared about this fight because I really, really, really, really, really, really want
Max Holloway to win. But Ilya Toporia is very, very good. I know. Very, very good.

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The only thing that I think is Ilya Toporia is strong, but he is shorter. He is four inches
shorter. He is... And he has a little bit smaller of a leg reach. So Max could get to him with kicks.
Max is going to be a little bit taller than him. So it'll be Ilya's punching up.

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Yeah.
You know, so...
Let's go with Max.
All right. Fuck it. We're going to put it on. He's going to have both belts,
Bless Man Forever and the Featherweight belt together.
Let's go.
Let's go, Max Holloway. I'm going to be wearing my shirt on Saturday for sure.
Those are our picks. Again, the person out there that's handling our bets, put those in for us and

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make sure you send us our winnings from last week because we did cash out last week.
Okay.
Quickly before we go, last week we did, like I said, we did talk about the fight night that happened.
And so just some of the results because we haven't really done that before.

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We picked Robelius, I believe, and he lost. So Austin Lane took out Robelius.
I think we also picked Alice Ardielane and Melissa Martinez won. So we are 0 for 2 starting off
fight night. I think we picked Jessica Pan. 0 for 3. All right. I think we definitely picked

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Jocelyn Edwards.
Yeah, we did.
All right. 1 for 4. Brad Katona, Gene Matsumoto. I think we picked Brad Katona.
We picked... We went with Brad, yeah.
1 for 5. Mataus Nikolaou and Asu Alambraiev. I think we went with Asu.
I don't remember, but that sounds right.

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I think we went with Asu. So I'm going to say 2 for 6. All right. Now we have Darren Elkins
and Daniel Pineda.
I think we went with Daniel Pineda, right?
Yeah, we did. Yeah. And not only did Darren Elkins take care of Daniel Pineda,
but they also got the fight of the night bonus there. So, all right. Jake Hadley and Cameron
Smotherman. I think we went Cameron Smotherman.

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I think we did too.
Yeah, because we didn't like Jake Hadley's hideous face.
Yeah. So, we were... Hold on. Let's see. 0 for 1, 0 for 2, 0 for 3, 1 for 4, 1 for 5,
2 for 6.
Oops.
2 for 6.
2 for 6.

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2 for 7, 3 for 8.
Okay. Charles Johnson and Sumar Darje.
I think we went Charles.
Did we? I thought we went with Sumar Darje. But...
I'm going to go with your initial instinct so we can go 4 for 9. And then Rob Font,
Carlyle Phillips. We definitely picked Grab Font.
I would never pick a guy that looks like Kyler Phillips.

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Yeah. He got fraud checked for sure. So, 5 for 10. Anthony Hernandez, Michelle Pareta.
We went with Michelle, didn't we?
Yeah, we did.
Yeah. So, 6 for 11.
Yeah.
Could have been better.
It could have been better, but you know, shit happens. It's a fight game.

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Lastly, I don't know if you saw any of this.
Okay.
Do you know who Francis Nganu is?
I do not. I've heard the name, but I'm not familiar.
Okay. So, for those of you that are coming to this cold, Francis Nganu is a fighter
who formerly was the heavyweight belt holder in the UFC. He is this huge, scary guy. He

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has a great backstory. He fled Cameroon, I believe, and swam across the ocean basically
to get to France and basically was sent back like two or three times and then finally made it.
And then once he got to France, saw combat sports and was like,

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pretty sure I could do this and started training. So, he is multidisciplinary. He basically,
he'll go for like a couple of years and just be like, I'm going to learn everything I can
learn about boxing. I'm going to learn everything I can learn about jujitsu. I'm going to learn
everything I can. So, came into the UFC, got the belt, and then they were trying to set up this
huge super fight between John Jones and him. But John Jones had been sitting out because he wanted

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to gain like 30 pounds of muscle mass. And so, it took like two or three years for that to happen.
By that time, Francis was kind of tired of waiting around and there were some other things on the
horizon for him. So, he gave up the belt. Well, I'm sorry, he never actually gave up the belt.
He left the UFC and then he got signed to PFL because they were going to allow him to do

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more than just MMA. They allow him to go do boxing. They allow him to,
any combat sport he wants to be involved in, excuse me, the PFL will allow him to do that. So,
his first fight outside of the UFC was a boxing match between him and Tyson Fury, who is like

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the king of the hill when it comes to heavyweight boxing. Many people believe that Francis
Sanganu won that fight, even though the decision went to Tyson Fury. He definitely put Tyson Fury
down. And then he went on to fight Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua knocked him out. And then he was
like, okay, I'm going to go back to MMA. So, while all of this is happening, he has a son.

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And he's not really with the mother. It's just one of those things where he has a son. So,
he is getting some of this information, you know, cursorarily, but basically his son was
16 months or 18 months and was having some problems breathing. And so, they took him to

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a hospital in, I believe, Morocco and they were like, nothing wrong with him. They did tests,
basically, nothing was wrong with him. And then they took him to a hospital in Dubai and they were
like, oh, he might have asthma. They gave him some breathing treatments and basically he was just
misdiagnosed and sent home and then he passed away. And so, Francis Sanganu, who has had this tragic

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road and life already as it is, has lost his under two-year-old son named Koby. And so,
whenever this fight was announced, he was like, the only reason I'm doing this fight is because
I want to do this to dedicate it to my son in memory of him. And so, I'm just going to play

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this in the background kind of like while we talk about him. So, Francis Sanganu, yeah, from Cameroon,
he's 6'4", 256. He's fighting someone named Henin Ferreira, or he was on Saturday. That's 6'8",
261. So, they build this as, I mean, they build this as the battle of the giants. The promo leading

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up to them was basically like a Godzilla type situation where they were like...
Chris Those are big fucking dudes.
Chris Where they were like tearing up a city,
trying to get to each other. So, yeah, humongous guys, the emotion that must have been going on
with Francis Sanganu to have lost his son this year and still be able to put it all together

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to come out and fight this fight. This is the highlight video, but the fight is so short that
the entire fight is the highlight. This is also Dan Mergliotta who is in the UFC a lot. And so,
it's fun to see him calling a non-UFC fight. Also, if you've never seen PFL fights before,

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the referee has a camera, like a glasses cam. And so, sometimes they'll switch back and forth
between what the referee sees and what the other cameras are doing.
Chris That's super interesting.
Chris I always wish the UFC would adopt that because,
yeah, he's got these glasses on that have a Google lens in them or whatever.
Chris Dang.

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Chris So right now, yeah, it's over basically right now.
Chris Yeah.
Chris They did some grappling and then...
Chris Just ground and pound. Oh, man. He's trying to kick out of it. That is a big... I would not
want to get kicked by that. Chris He flattens him out right here too much.
Chris Yeah. Oh, man.
Chris You just hook straight to the head.

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Chris Yeah. Jeez.
Chris There we go.
Chris Their combined weight is over 500 pounds.
Chris And then you can see like his body's...
Chris Just done.
Chris And Dan's like, keep going. He gets one or more too in. But yeah, so after the fight,

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he gives this emotional speech about basically remembering his son, remembering his name.
And it's hard to see someone that is humongous as him, as like,
aggressive and like, you know, he immediately like breaks down into tears, like ugly cries,

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you know. Anyway, cheers to Francis Ngannou. That was a very cool fight. Sorry to hear about your
son. We will remember Kobe's name. So we've got a lot of cool things on the horizon,
combat sports wise. What's next for him? He, him and John Jones met in the crowd and they did a

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little shit talking. So that was fun. So anyway, Scrapple, it's good to go.
Chris A plus.
Chris All right.
Chris So much of it.
Chris All you people in Maryland, Delaware, Philadelphia, you guys are not crazy. It tastes
great. We loved it. Six out of six. Dose thumbs up. We love our coaching moments. Again, if you've

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never seen any Teddy Atlas videos, go plug that in and have yourself a motivational day. It'll make
you be ready to take on the world. Again, 308 is this Saturday. It's early. It's at noon. So
like I said, let's brunch it up. Let's have a little, you know, some Scrapple and some fights,
some Scrapple and some scraps, scraps. There we go.

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Chris New segment.
Chris Thank you very much for driving all the way out here. So we had a good time. Yeah. If you need
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lead singers of famous metalcore bands and just like, you know what I mean?

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Chris Thrash.
Chris Thrash. Sorry, semantics. Anywho. I know I just screwed up the entire 90 minute podcast.
Chris We should have somebody, we should try and get the singer of like, Kubla Khan on.
Chris That'd be tight. That'd be tight.
Chris That's some fighting music.

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Chris I meant to say hardcore. And then for some reason, like I was like, they're harder than
hardcore. And so I just like, I'm messing with you. But yeah, the one thing I was going to say,
before we wrap up, if you have a second, I downloaded Mortal Kombat 11 or 12 or whatever.
I have not played a single match of that yet. So we definitely need to have somebody on,

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we need to get into video games. We need to discuss that soon. So you have somebody for that,
right? Maybe, maybe, maybe somebody for that. So if you are a huge video game, fighting video game
person, give us a holler, tell us what your favorite ones are. I'm old school. I like
Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat, that sort of thing. But I also play like the Fortnite and,

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and then the other, the others.
Chris I have a hard time with fighting games. I always try to like them. Like even Street Fighter
is like, Oh, I'm so excited. I play like three rounds. All right, cool. I'm done.
Chris My thumbs hurt.
Chris Backyard wrestling on like PS2. That was pretty sick.
Chris That's my stuff.
Chris Sipping some Fago while you play. Opening the Riddlebox.
Chris We won't go there.

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Chris What is it? Swinging the Axe?
Anyway, have a great week. We'll catch you next week. Thank you for joining us. Bye.
Chris Bye.
Jesus this is really awesome.

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you