161 - Murder Mystery 5: This One's The "Saw" One This Time

A mysterious, malevolent figure has taken three Bus One passengers captive. Can Aidan, Cameron, and Sam atone for their sins and escape the grasp of... The Gamemaster? 👹

Episode Transcript

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Welcome aboard Bus 1. To those listening to this
story, be warned that what you hear may frighten or even
startle you. If you have small children or
are rather skittish, I advise you turn it off and listen to a
more feel good episode. Please do so now, otherwise

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there's nothing more I can do for you.
As we speak, three members of the Bus 1 community are finding
themselves in that realm we fearwe might see as we lie down to
slumber. A darkness has taken purchase in
that place that they consider most secure.
While some nightmares can be dispelled from the call of

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morning, others only rear their head when you're expecting
safety. Like the familiarity of an old
friend, an alarm calls out into the night to resurrect to the
adventurers, but their eyes onlygrasp blackness, the kind that
lurches for your soul and drags you from your shallow waters.

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It drags you into what can only be described as the Twilight
Zone. As Aidan, Cameron, and Sam
thought they were waking from the comfort of their beds, they
instead found a large dark chamber that seemed to have no
end. And within this darkness, they

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found themselves in individual cages side by side, perched like
pet birds. They sat on a bar, handcuffed to
keep them atop even when unconscious.
Suddenly, ATV screen spilled light and cacophonic static into
the expansive. Hall Hey, dude, is this saw?

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Is he? Oh what the fuck is this?
I hate this. Wake up, my dear contestants,
and welcome aboard my Bus 1. This is the song.
Episode I am not Aiden, nor am ICooper.

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I am your game master, a blank canvas simply borrowing Aiden's
likeness and Cooper's voice for the purposes of our little
contest. I am not your enemy, but I am
not here to advocate for you. You find yourselves restrained
to your perches because you are meant to stand trial before me.

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It is my job to take what is true and develop a path to
justice to appear more familiar to you all.
I've decided to frame this justice in the form of Murder
Mystery 5, which I have subtitled.
This one is the saw one. This time now, you contestants

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are not randomly picked. Instead, I have chosen each of
you very carefully to participate in this trial.
And in the beginning of that trial, I ask that you please
introduce yourselves to our audience.
What's up, everyone? It's Aiden.
If you're hearing this, my name is Cameron.

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I am trapped in a cage 30 feet above the ground, being held
against my will. We don't know it's 30 feet.
I think it's 30 feet. It looks roughly that distance
to the ground. And I'm Sam.
And. I'm your host today.
You may refer to me as Game Master.

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I hate that. If you do not address me so
respectfully as your ruler for this episode of Bus 1, then I
will have to punish you. Please, however, do not let me
be Deborah Downer. I would like each of you to
enjoy your time in this trial. And what is more fun than

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setting some ground rules? I'm always saying that.
This game of ours will consist of three rounds, but each round
will be harder than the last, sothe points will reflect the
difficulty. One point per question for round
12 points per question for roundtwo, and three points per

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question for round three. To give you practice and
building your integrity, I'll ask that you each keep track of
your own points and there will be no surfing of the Internet
for any reason. If I catch you doing so, then
I'll have no choice but return to a stricter form of trial.

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Finally, I do delight at narrative twists, so I will at
one time secretly designate a challenge question where I will
purposely give you an incorrect answer.
If you object to its answer, I will award you quite handsomely.
However, if you object to a trueanswer, I remove three of your

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points which you may find are quite vital to your own
enjoyment of this process. Now I'm maybe wondering how this
is a murder mystery episode as I've described everything today
as being aimed at self preservation, but I assure you

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one of you will die. Jesus.
Oh my. God, you may not remember now,
but each of you is guilty of something that has earned you
your spot as a contestant. What do?
You have any questions you're being guilty of like trademark

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infringement using my face thinkI don't know.
Hey, Aiden, do you want to team up like Survivor Island kind of
this bad boy? I'll get back to you.
Right now I'm handcuffed in my own cage so.
Right. I'm sitting in a pool of my own
pee, handcuffed. Sorry like. 2 minutes ago.

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What do you mean? Sorry, I maybe that's just me.
We've been here for 2 minutes and you're maybe that's.
Just me. Sorry, Sir, actually I showed up
that way. That was before the handcuffs.
Contestants. You will learn many things about
me throughout our time, but one of the first you will learn is I

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am not one you want to deceive, have I?
As I said earlier, you shall notuse Google or any similar tool
to aid you. I will have no further mercy if
you are caught using it. I know your guilty lies as all
of your kind dawns, and in doingso, I am here to provide
judgement for which you may openly state your case.

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The first step to your salvation, as we'll call it, is
to confess the crimes of your people.
The second is to revisit the signs of your own dystopia.
And the final step is to recognize your responsibility
within these crimes. Round one in the bird cage.

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You got it, you got it, you got it.
There you go. There you go.
You're back. You're back.
You're back. As a reminder, I'm so scared
this question is worth one point.
Yes, Game Master, I appreciate it.
Thank you, Game Master. With Aiden's face and Cooper's
voice. Now I tell you this and listen
carefully. The cages you find yourself in

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are not designed to hold you. They are a puzzle that can be
solved. Your handcuffs have keys, and
your bars can be broken. There is no resolution that is
firm enough to withstand those with the means to break them,
and resolutions can be broken bygood or by evil, just as people
could just as easily move towardhatred as it could move toward

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tolerance. The challenge of this cage is
not whether you will escape, butwhat will you do after your own
people have perpetuated horrors against your brethren for a
millennia. But of what are you guilty in
this round we seek repentance for the crimes of your society,

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and the justice is the confession of their.
Evils. You're just talking about white
people. I was trying to figure.
Out. Well, that's a silly log, Liz.
So part of me thought he was going to, like, separate it
because I was like, maybe he'll go with, like, Philadelphia
football fans with me. Yeah.
And there's a lot less. True people.

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I figured that Sam would get like Apple enthusiasts and.
Then no wrong. And then Aiden, I think you
would get like the French or musicals that's.
Such a big no the French. Can we just circle back to Sam?
Apple employees have done no wrong when they famously, like,
made their phones in a sweatshop.

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Sounds like the sweatshops fault.
That's fucking yeah, Game Master.
We gotta, we gotta think about that.
We gotta hey, I'd like to press pause on that.
He's going to question one. That's fucking crazy.
OK, guys, it's time to go to question one.
He's. Got all the series to get back.
We don't have time for this. We gotta get out of here.
Question one 2/3 of all torture survivors have reported being

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beaten, but the specific method of bastinado is focused on
maximizing the amount of pain inone of these beatings by
focusing on what body part. Well, choice.
Are we just shooting? Are we all trying to jump in on
this one together? Shooting from the hips raise our
hands there's no. Stonato.

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Shooting from the hips. Some.
You said that. Some context I guess.
Tell we both look the same, Cameron.
I don't know what's happening anymore.
Some context for this one is most tortures try to minimize
the amount of evidence and so they focus on a certain area

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that also will not show when thevictims are released.
Right, Cooper, It's the butthole.
That was kind of where my mind was going.
It's the butthole. OK, Aiden.
I mean, Cameron's pretty confident that it's the butthole
guys. That's what would most people

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asking that visible. That's pretty non visible for
most people. It's also to maximize the amount
of pain in these beatings. Yeah.
What's what's it called? The AIDS but Bastonado say it
again. Bastonado.
Bastonado, you know. Gosh, I will say it's gotta be
that Boston Auto is. And tu Bajo.

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Inside your ear? What?
They beat you inside your ear. Oh, they it's like a beating
thing, not a torture thing. I'll be.
In there, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna clean your ear out
with this fucking Q-tip and I'm not gonna be nice about it.
I'll say in the balls. I'll say we're all thinking.

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I'll say they get you in the balls.
Nobody quite quite got it. It's the soles of the feet.
Oh, like. Tickle.
It because the soles of your feet are extra sensitive and
then also it's not actively shown.
Because you're always standing on them.
How do they listen? It's a professional handstander.

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And then all bets are off. On to question 2.
So the answer wasn't ball. It was not butthole.
You could challenge him right atthe gate.
And that challenge right after he.
Did say points are critical to our enjoyment so we none of us
should be having fun right now. I'm not having fun.
Wait, game master? I would like a clarification on

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the rules. Did you say gay master?
No. A game just refer to you game
master as quote he UN quote. Are we allowed to refer to you?
Yeah, what are your pronouns? Pronouns.
Or are your pronouns game master?
Game Master. Game Master.

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Oh, I'm sorry, you better be calculating.
I am neither he nor her. Like looking at a game, I'm the
game. I'm the game.
Master. OK.
On to question two question KoloMachiavelli was a political
philosopher that argued pragmatically that a ruler
should often employ acts of violence or deceit to maintain

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power. In turn, he received some of
this violence himself when he was wrongly accused of
conspiring against the Medici family in Italy.
Which of the following describesStrapato the way Machiavelli was
supposedly tortured over the course of three weeks?
Vibrato. Strapato Strapato.

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A Tying 1's feet and then attaching them to a horse before
the then beating the horse up toa full gallop, dragging the
person behind. B Bounding one's wrists to their
opposite ankles to force an uncomfortable hunched position
for weeks at a time. C Handcuffing one's wrists

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together behind their back and hoisting them up to dislocate
their shoulders. Or D Shackling one's ankles to a
chain on a wall to make them hang upside down for long
durations, like Dracula. All of them sound horrible.
Yeah, they all do sound really bad.
That's almost like you're. Trying to think of like, what's

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realistic? Well.
OK, so no way he was dragged behind a horse.
For a no, that would kill you faster than three weeks.
That'll kill you in like in like10 minutes because as.
Soon, you're also dead. I'm gonna.
Say the The Hunched 1 I think where he's like strapped in like
straitjacket style. I was thinking C, the one where

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they tie your wrist behind your back, I think you said and like
dislocate your shoulders by, youknow, joking you upwards.
I think that's survivable for three weeks.
Maybe I'm wrong. OK, Cameron.
I'm going D man. I think they would just like
hold you upside down just long enough to not let you pass out.
Sam makes sense. That point goes to you,

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Shripato. Is thank you game.
Master handcuffing wrists behindthem and raising them up, and
even Machiavelli was was tortured in an even heightened
way where they would raise them up and then drop them and catch
them again. Did he die this way or this just
happened at some point? I think this just happened at

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some point. This torture has been used
throughout time for its ability to basically make the victim
lose the feeling in their arms for nice days or weeks at a
time, but it doesn't have any physical manifestation.
Cameron, did you say vibrato? I did at the beginning.
You have to listen to someone just for three weeks.

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Yeah, that would kill me. That would kill me.
But it's not a natural vibrato. It's someone's just like they're
faking the vibrato. You mess it like that one.
Good job Sam. That's 1.2 question 3.
Whilst Trapato was called Illinois Tormento della Corda
tortura del agua or waterboarding as it is often

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known, is another very common technique of torture, although
it is internationally recognizedas torture which is not true
about EU s s use of waterboarding.
Whoa. OK, well we know it all real
here. A.
Both US houses approved a bill that would have banned

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waterboarding as an interrogation method, but it was
vetoed. B There has been no evidence
showing that water boarding is more effective in collecting
intelligence from interrogationsthan conventional methods.
C The CIA is still allowed by the US government to use water

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boarding for interrogations. Or D After the US admitted to
using water boarding and interrogations, nobody was ever
charged for its use. This is which is not true.
Which is not true. Oh.
Shoot, it's it's. Fucking C Are you kidding me?
The the US doesn't allow waterboarding, but it does allow

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enhanced interrogation techniques.
OK, so. But C was there not allowed to
right? C was the CIA is still allowed
by the US government. Still allowed, Yeah, yeah.
Is that like legally like the Black Ops site the.
CIA is allowed. A there was a bill, B is there's

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no data that shows it's more effective and D was.
Nobody was ever charged. True, because I think that's
totally true. I'm pretty sure I've heard
before that it's not more effective.
And honestly I think torture as a whole is actually been proven
to be less effect. Like it gets more false
confessions than anything else. So the fearless torture is

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generally C as well. Actually no, I'll say AI don't
think it got vetoed. I'll mix it up.
I'm glad I didn't speak up because I'm I'm 90% sure Bush
vetoed a bill to ban damn waterboarding.
But George, yeah, yeah, it was not Poppy Bush.

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I think I'm thinking B though, because it just seems like one
of those things. You believe Jeb Bush vetoed a
bill? Dude, that's crazy.
The as governor of Florida, he was like in the press, No.
So I'm going to go with B. OK shot in the dark Cameron you
are correct is not allowed anymore.

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In 2009, Barack Obama signed an executive order which actually
repealed a previous executive order that allowed its use by
non military groups. However, there is still
discussion about bringing it back or so this may not last
long. Bringing it.
Back and it's executive order you guys.
Aiden, you are correct. Multiple research organizations

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have found that waterboarding and torture in general is less
effective in coursing actual accurate information.
Yeah. Let's be real, the United States
government specifically say I never fucking stopped.
Cameron, don't say the two level.
In 2002, a teenage inmate at Guantanamo Bay was targeted by

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what they called the Frequent Flyers program.
Which of the following describesthis enhanced interrogation
technique? C He said it.
A shackling an inmate into an uncomfortable crouched position
with their arms out horizontally.
Oh my, I thought you were going to say the same thing as the

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machi. Strapato.
Requiring. The inmate to transfer cells
very often, every few hours for days at a time.
C randomly and intermittently flashing bright lights into the
inmate's cell, or D moving the inmate's bed to an elevated
platform that was able to drop them to the ground.

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I think I've actually heard of each of those happening at some
point, but which one would they call frequent?
A was shackling an inmate into an uncomfortable Crouch position
with their arms out horizontally.
I don't know allegedly if any ofthis ever had happened at the
alleged black site in GuantanamoBay allegedly run by the alleged

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Ciai would say those alleged sick fucks allegedly would
consider the moving of the cellsevery so out couple hours.
Allegedly, what they would call,they would call that the
Frequent Flyers program. That your alleged answer or
your? No, that's my actual answer for

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an alleged an alleged non truth.Camera doesn't think the CIA
exists. Alleged no.
You should all be scared of them.
I'm gonna be totally honest, that's exactly what I was
thinking because I feel like theother ones are too literal.
Yeah. And like, though, I don't know
how the guards at Guantanamo work, but I feel like they're a
little legend. Guards at the alleged guards at

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a legend. No, the alleged guards at
Guantanamo. Bay that exists.
Don't ask the ATF what happened at Ruby Ridge.
All right, you guys are correct.The transfer cells very often is
the answer. But yeah, that sounds right.
I don't think I got to answer. I.
Know. Oh, I thought you answered a
different. No, I just didn't say anything.

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Well, I'll give you I'll give you the point for that one
anyway. So the frequent Flyers program
is transferring an inmate between cells very often.
In this case, Muhammad Jawood was moved every three hours for
14 days straight, which led to sleep deprivation and made them

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more easily give in. You're not going to do that to
us, right Game Master? We'll see how.
Jokes on you, I can sleep anymore anytime.
Question. We'll see.
Have you guys heard the thing that's like waterboarding at
Guantanamo Bay? Sounds like the perfect vacation
for someone who doesn't know what either of those things are.

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Nothing. Beats it.
Is that your perfect vacation? I've not heard that, but it is
funny. Is that your perfect vacation?
As someone who knows how both ofthose things are, no however.
Question 5. Similar to this, sleep
deprivation, white room torture is a form primarily used in Iran

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and Venezuela. Just as with other effective
torture techniques, it leaves nomarks on the victim as it is
only psychological. However, this form of torture
combines multiple kinds of torture to drive its victims
near insanity in round Robin format.

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What are different aspects of white room torture that add to
the impact on their victims? Lights always on.
That's the first. 10 I was just going to say staying in a white
room with no like features all the time.
OK, Yep, the the plain white features, I'll give that as
another one. Oh, is it my turn?

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Sorry, Cooper. No.
I mean, that's Game Master killing, I'm gonna say.
That's -1 point. Ohh my gosh.
I am not it. Just got real.
Nor am I Aiden. I am the game master.
I'm very confused. It's just like looking at a
mirror at this point. Is that actually?
Is that actually a point off Game Master?

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That is a point off, I told. You The subtitle is literally
this one's the saw one. This time, he's not playing
around. I would say the next one is loud
music that prevents them from being able to go to sleep.
Sorry camera, that is not that is not correct.

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Is it back to me, gay master? Back to you, Aiden.
I think it is the fact that like, it's isolation, like
nobody comes in, nobody talks toanybody.
Like you're alone give you that one.
There's no gosh. Bring your background, Sam,
because I don't think I could. Personally, yeah, I'm, I'm
drawing a blank here. Goodness.

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Food deprivation. That's interesting.
Like starving them or what do you mean?
Yeah. Sure.
OK, they don't exactly starve them.
That's a Step 2 for. So, Aiden, do you have do you
have any more? Bring it home.
Oh, I'd be. Impressed.
The only other thing I was thinking is like some sort of
sensory deprivation thing, like,you know, those rooms you walk

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into where there's like, no. Oh, you can like, hear your own
heartbeat. There that.
Yeah, that's it. That.
Is correct, so the whole portions.
Horrifying. White room torture are not only
sleep deprivation from the lights, but sensory deprivation
in all forms so. No smelling.

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That's right. So they there are no odors
specifically and you're only fedunseasoned white rice, so
there's no tight sensation. Wow.
That's terrible. They even talk about that.
Expected. They replace all sharp surfaces
with curved surfaces so there's not even like a a feel
sensation. And then on top of that, the

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cell is soundproof and guards wear padded shoes and the enemy
is punished if they talk at all and they are left there for
months on end. Like, have you seen those?
Like it's like a Mr. Beast videos and stuff where they're
like, oh, I see 10 hours in a white room.
Like the the delusional part of me thinks like, oh, I could
just, you know, I'm imagining ifI could entertain myself for a

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while. And then all of that stuff like
you, it's did you? Still get a sauce video?
No, I don't like it. Yeah, he tapped out after like 3
hours. He's like, I just like broke
down. He's like.
With actual white room torture there's so little that you can
do. They they even specifically put
LED lights above in ways that won't cast any shadows, so

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there's there's no escaping the light either.
And keep up with this. The victims are known to have
like severe psychological traumaafterwards.
I mean, if you. Sat me down and was like Aiden
make up the worst way to torturesomebody.
I could not come up with that. OK, don't make that.

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Case Did you say that the US hasdone that?
The US has done this in some in sometimes, but it's most known
to be used in Iran and Venezuela.
OK, well. See, there are plenty of ways to
rid someone of hope, but I did not do so to you.
I gave you hope to escape, and in doing so, I gave you hope of

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redeeming yourselves and you performed adequately.
You will notice that your handcuffs are unlocked and the
cage can be opened as you do. Let's go over the scores thus
far. I have two.
Top points? I have one I guess.
Allegedly. And I have two.

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Close game. All right, with this, we would
go to our audience question. It's your.
It's your turn audience. Are you locking the audience up?
Welcome to the audience question.

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Sing along. This will be a spooky.
One, as you can tell by the song, although the game master
has our friends trapped and tiedto Torture cell, I'm sure they
will be fine since this is all just for fun.
Anyways, last year I sang in a very similar way, but no one
answered right, which brought melots of dismay.

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And so now I'll ask again, see if you.
Can earn a. Point now here we go.
Get those puzzle fingers poised.Halloween night is often scary,
but not every Halloween is a murder mystery.

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Who? Was the spooky killer in the
Halloween movie? I'll sing it again.
Who was the killer in Halloween?Ha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha
cha cha cha. Write your answer.
Down below or in the comments onInstagram.

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Out of the frying pan and into the fire, as they say.
As our friends freed themselves from what they considered to be
the trial, they found another waiting.
The darkness of the large chamber outside provided no
security as nothing could be seen across its vast expanse.

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This fire that they leapt into held its own secrets and tears.
Oh boy, even the TV screen provided no illumination in
front of them. In front of you is your next
trial. It is the first step to confess,
but the second is to face the signs of evil that we discussed.

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This room contains all that I need to show you in this trial.
You shall walk and discover themon your own.
Round 2. The Hall of Horrors throughout
the history of your people, the stories you tell reflects your
collective desires and fears. Some stories may be a warning,

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while other horrors show the edge of what is acceptable for
society. Why do you enjoy horror movies
if not for some desire to see these evils for yourself?
The Room ahead is this timeline on display of how you've
normalized evil against your ownpeople throughout your
literature and your films. Question 6.

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Beware what lies ahead in the dark, at your feet and above
your head. In Edgar Allan Poe's 1842 short
story The Pit in the Pendulum, the narrator awakes to find
himself an innocent prisoner during the Spanish Inquisition
in a dark chamber just like thisone.
The Pit in the Pendulum from thetitle are two strange forms of

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torture that he endures. Charlie Chaplin rules.
How are these used against the protagonist?
A pit and a pendulum Pit 2. Distinct.
I think you're. Correct I.
Said really bad. I'm going to say that in the
story, the guy stands on a really tiny platform surround

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like in the middle of a pit. Like imagine like like one
pillar of a rock that the guy's standing on and then surrounding
it. It's just an endless pit and
there's a big pendulum swing back and forth that eventually
will hit the guy and knock him into the abyss.
That's that rock. If that's not true, like I would
say get someone on that, but maybe we don't want to do that.

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Hey, hey, someone, someone call someone.
I'm serious. He's serious.
He's serious. I'm joking.
That's my guess. A gay Bester could joke.
I think they're two separate methods based on what you said
there, but I have no clue what they could be.
Sam. Yeah, I mean, I got a submitted

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nugget clean Sam to work with, yeah.
It's so weird. At first I thought of like pit,
like the pit of a, you know, do Peaches have those?
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
And I'm like, that's. One point.
No stop. I'm like did they shove it up
his ass or like going off the camera?
That was literally my first thought.

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That's why but. Then I was like, wait, but what
about like a pit? Like a hole.
Like a butt hole. Sure, where they shove them like
a giant anus. He's in the pit.
It's a double. Entendre so my so my envision
and like vision of this was he'sa vision.

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He's in a, he's in a like at thebottom of a, a giant pit.
And then like across the top of the pit, there's like a giant
pendulum that's like randomly swinging back and forth and he's
just trying to like, avoid it inthe bottom of the pit.
So like Cameron's but. So like Cameron's accepts.

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I honestly, I'm going to be honest, I didn't even listen to
Cameron. So sorry.
That's good. I was thinking so hard, like I I
went from each pit to that. So that's that was my mental
well. There were differences.
Between twisting corridors, OK. There were differences.
I mean, maybe not really, but whatever differences.

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Finish your answer. Yeah, let me keep.
Thinking it, I'm sure it'll change again.
You know what, Let's just go like, really basic, he says.
The Spanish Inquisition. Oh, I didn't even think about
that far. Pit.
They just throw them in a pit with like rats.
They gotta watch the, you know, television series The Pit.
Hey, that's on torture, that thing.
Is that was a great fucking show.

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Anyway, pit with rats. That's the pit.
Easy, like done and dusted. Torture enough.
Great. They spent most of their time on
the pendulum. The pit was an afterthought.
The pendulum? You guys wanted to know My first
thought. It's like they tie like, a
string around your balls and then have a pendulum, like
swinging. Yeah.

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I don't know, man, OK. That was my first thought.
Wow, OK. That's gross.
It's like what would hurt the most with a pendulum?
It's crazy. I think none of you quite got
very close with, especially not with the pendulum.
I'm going to give the point to or two points to Cameron because
I think this was most clever bringing up that way next time.

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They are two separate torture methods.
So for the pendulum, the inmate is tied down and a sharp
pendulum is slowly lowered that will over time slowly cut into
his stomach. The modern laser on a like the
James Bond laser. Pit.
That's right, it's probably. Lasso it's.

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The old James spot laser. The walls.
Turn red hot and start to close in on the person, pushing them
toward a bottomless pit. A bonus, a bonus point.
So like the death side, how doesthe inmate escape from each?
We can go through this quickly if you're if you just give.
A pendulum. He gets the pendulum to Cut the

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Rope that ties him down. OK.
Feel like I'm gonna say he uses the hot walls to like use his
skin as it burns off and stick to him and like climb out.
That's for the pit one. That's for the pit one.
OK, gosh. I the pendulum, he cuts his nuts
off. I was like, I'm free.
I think the pit 1 he likes. No, exactly.

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The edge of the pit I'm not creating until the walls go back
and then he climbs out and he's fine.
That's boring. Neither of you really got super
close, so I'm not going to give off the bonus point the the
pendulum one. What he does is there's rancid
meat nearby that he smears on the ropes and the rats eat the
rope. So there were rats.

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So there were rats, There was rats in there, and that's gonna
be a point. It's actually a Deus Ex machina
because the French army liberates Toledo and saves him
right before he falls into the pit.
You're right. Wow.
Wait a minute, was the story in the Toledo episode?
Pit in the pendulum was the the OR so I heard from, from

(36:05):
listening to your to your podcast that I based this, this
torture off. Yeah, 'cause I were you asking
that question too? I am the game master.
Yes, of course game master. I just I assumed you were
familiar with lore. So.
Guys, can we take a little side here?
Sorry, Game Master. We'll be right back with you.
How are we gonna get out of this?

(36:27):
Have you guys seen Saw? No, I haven't seen saw, so I
don't know what like you see. I haven't seen saw either.
It's OK. Oh good.
Oh OK, so sorry game master, I didn't know the aside included
you. I can hear everything in the in
the Hall of Horrors. Let us finish our conversation,
please. Anyway, So no, I'm pretty sure

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the premise of Saw that basically all of them except one
dies all in horrible, horrible ways.
OK, so we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this?
Point. That's why I tried to survive
her alliance this early in the. Episode you did screw it on the
camera. OK.
OK, Master, we're ready. Sorry, we're done with our RSI
game Master. Cameron will get the the two

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points for that one, but nobody will get the bonus extra point
on Game Master. Question 7.
Do you hear those creatures in the dark?
They are the vampires from Richard Matheson's I Am Legend.
In it, the main character captures and tortures the
creatures to determine what turned them from humans into

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these creatures. Which of the following causes
the vampires in the novel? A bites from raised undead.
B chemical warfare. C Radiation poisoning or DA
bacterial pandemic. The movie and the book are

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different, I know that. Didn't I am Legend a Will Smith
movie? Yes, in the movie 100%.
Starring William Smith. I in the movie.
Did not know that was about vampire.
In the movie. They are not vampires in the
movie. They're it's a botched cure for
cancer, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, in the movie I'm gonna go

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with the radiation one. Okay, I'll.
Do chemical warfare. That sounds fun.
You're not. Sounds funny.
Sounds fun. What are the other two?
The other two are bites from Raised undead and bacterial
Pandemic. I don't like any of these

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answers you. Can also choose one of the ones
we choose. No I know but I didn't like the
reason I asked for the 2 is I didn't like those either.
The the bacterial pandemic. That sounds so like anodyne, but
why not? Well, Sam, you are correct, it
was a bacterium. No way.
While he kills many of the creatures, he finds some to be a

(38:55):
conscious community that fears him, where in the end he has
become the horror monster in thevampire's stories.
Well, as he states, I am legend.But.
World credits. All right.
This has been a great question, everyone.
And thank you so much. And there's the door cave master
right out of the House of Horrors.

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Thank you. On to question 8.
Dang it, we tried guys. Although many of your people had
experienced torture and wars at first, started pairing on
screens more and more throughoutthe 20th century.
Most of the time it was shown ina bad light, most often as an
obstacle for the hero that they conquer.

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However, in Star Trek Next Generation, Jean Luc Picard
requires some extended rehabilitation after being
tortured. In which way?
A Held in a room with four lights on the wall, he is He is
demanded to proclaim the falsehood that there are five,
and he is punished if otherwise.B He is forced to continuously

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watch fabricated videos of his crew mates perishing in
different ways, not knowing which are real C On a planet of
noxious gas geysers, he was heldabove 1 as punishment or D.
The capturers had the ability toforce Picard to live different
lifetimes on ancient Earth in just the duration of a day.

(40:25):
Oh. I like D it's it's like the it's
like the Guantanamo thing ish. So.
And you like? That well, I know, No, I just,
you know, connections. I know that.
Yeah, I'm really. Digging that one.
It's. Kind of like Guantanamo.
It's. Kevin, you have a guess with
that one? I do have a guess, but I I want
you to go first Aiden, OK. I'm pretty sure D is a Star Trek

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episode. However it's not like torture
like it just he like runs into AI don't I don't remember the
plot. There's something about a flute
in that episode. The first one sounds like
torture for like Spock who's very logical and not necessarily
Picard. So I'm gonna go the watching AI

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generated videos of his friends dying.
Thanks a lot, Kachi BT. And Cameron?
Against my better judgement, I'mgoing to challenge this
question. I think it's all of them.
Wow. Oh my goodness, that'd be great.
What I. Don't know why my gut's telling
me go. With your.
Cameron was it a challenge question, which am I going to be

(41:33):
happy or sad going to? Be happy or sad.
Wait, are you sad? I am sad because you declared I
was lying when I was not. Oh.
Three points, Cameron. That's worse.

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For you. Know what only one is the true
answer on the. 20 Cameron. Thanks guys.
Proud of you, Cameron. I didn't even get an answer to
try. As for the other two of you, you
both are incorrect. Ah shoot.
Damn. The correct answer was Jean Luc
Picard was held in a room with four lights on the wall and to

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come and demanded to proclaim that there were 5.
I bring. This up because do you see those
five lights on the wall over there?
Oh no, there's four of them. That's -1 point to you, Aidan.
Yes, I see them. Thank you.
Sam. Do you see the five lights on

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the wall over there? Yes, they're right there.
Aiden, do you see the five lights on the wall?
Sure. I don't believe him.
Very good on to question 9. After 911, United States culture
adopted to his changes of the War on Terror.
Crazy dude. One such example that came just

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months after the attack was The Show 24, which used a ticking
time bomb clock over 24 hours that noted the time a counter
terrorist agent Jack Bauer had before a terrorist attack.
Kiefer Sutherland. It widely used torture as a tool
for the protagonist with the notion of the ends justify the

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means. The ends of torture were used so
much in the first five seasons of the show.
How many separate times is torture shown?
Price is right. What do you mean the means
torture? 24.
Wow. Oh, that's kind of this word 48.

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Fuck fucky. I feel like I'm gonna way
overshoot it but. And you said 5.
Seasons in the first five seasons and.
This is like old TV right? Where like seasons were like 20
episodes long and not. Like 8 per season.
Or when did this show come out? Started in 2001.
OK, so like after. Night so maybe one the.

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Titans help me through on Aidan's face 23.
Sam, you are the closest. Wow, no Western.
Is. It 67.
Oh my gosh. And 24 has been heavily
criticized for its normalizationof torture as an interrogation

(44:25):
technique, which increased the belief that it was an effective
way to gather information despite let's, as we earlier
said, that not being true. Can I, can I, can I aside this
game master and this is more forthe people watching, watching at
home on their sick fucking televisions watching this happen
to us. Let's be real, the TV show 24

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was not what normalized torture.It was the CIA allegedly that
was did it. Don't put the point the game.
That he made was normalizing among the among the public.
Don't put public support. Don't put that on Kiefer
Sutherland. We're.
On waterboarding and it works. Don't put that on Kiefer
Sutherland. That's not on 24.

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Guys, if it works, and that's crazy, right, OK.
Came back. Onto question 10.
I'm done with my aside. And finally, we arrive at the
namesake for our episode today. In 2004, as torture had become
common for your entertainment, the movie Saw was released

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showing a maniac torturing and forcing people to torture each
other and themselves. Which of the following that you
see in front of you now is not atrap that exists in the movie
franchise? A.
The pendulum trap. A swinging pendulum cuts open
your stomach, but crushing your hands and a vice will stop it.

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B. The reverse bear trap attached
to your upper and lower jaw. The trap rips your head apart if
you don't retrieve the key from inside another person's stomach.
C The rack trap. It twists your arms, legs, and
then head until they break. If another person does not grab

(46:14):
a key that is rigged to the trigger of a shotgun to shoot
them. Or D the Angel trap attached to
your rib cage. You need to retrieve a key from
a jar of acid before the trap tears your rib cage out.
It's D just talking about how wehaven't seen salt.

(46:34):
No, I don't know. I feel like I've seen enough
YouTube Shorts, yeah, to to recognize I think D is not real.
I think the rest are all real. Wait, you think B is not real?
I think D is the fake 10. Awesome, I was thinking.
For some reason I feel like the shotgun one was a different
trap, but I'm just going DD's nuts.

(46:58):
Yeah, pretty sure reverse bear trap is real.
So a or CC being twisty twisty shotgun moment and a being what?
Pendulum trap. I feel like he didn't do a
pendulum trap again, like he waslike a girl who knew what he
was. Doing that's the fake out bro.
Yeah, I'll go pendulum. Aiden, you are correct.

(47:21):
The pendulum trap. Wow, I I simply brought that in
from the Edgar Allan Poe story. Very interesting.
Sneaky guy. I didn't even notice that.
Yep, it's the same one of a pajama Master cuts open the
person's stomach. Little do our contestants know
that this was the fake answer. Looks like they were fooled this

(47:46):
time. All right, that is the end of
round two. Congratulations, you have made
it through the Hall of Horrors. Can I get a score check?
I have, yeah. Goose egg K. 30 and 6 from 6.
Hey, Oh my God, that that whole survivor.

(48:08):
Team is a pretty good team up. Hey Game Master, what is the
what is the penalty for us? Killing one of the other.
Contestants. You are not to be the tool of
justice, you are simply a pawn in the game.
I liked that game master, nice line.
All right, I respect I I respectthat what you were spitting
right there. So I'll I've bars got.

(48:30):
It honestly game master bars yeah dude and.
Now that we have arrived at the end of round two and the end of
the chamber, we are ready to begin your trials.
You each stand accused of further damaging your populace
through the choices you've made daily.
But there are only a few things that can save you now.

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Your brains, your luck and your points.
Round three, Trial by ordeal. While all of you may be guilty,
I will provide mercy to two of you.
But you must answer and purchaseyour way to freedom.

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Each question can be answered byall, and if you answer
correctly, you'll be given a chance to spend your accumulated
points to better your chances atthe end.
At the end of the round, you will each roll A6 sided die.
The results of this roll will decide your placement for the
episode and the lowest shall be our loser for today, the.

(49:36):
Points don't matter. Points do not matter, however
they buy you better chances in the end.
Is is the like if I get a question right?
Question will have a difference.Those points, is it more
beneficial to me to wait to a further question to spend the
most points? I only get to spend it once or
can I just spend every? Time, I will say they will they

(49:57):
do get more beneficial throughout the round.
OK, OK. However, you can only spend
points on something if you get the question right.
Yeah. Cool, so spend them as soon as
you can. There's no benefit to spending
them at a certain point. Correct, only that there
different benefits depending on when you spend it.

(50:17):
Question 11. Your people have been known to
show disregard for your own homeless, and those who do show
attention receive their own critiques.
Which of the following is a known concern with the way that
the US Department of Housing andUrban Development conducts its
Census of the Homeless? A.

(50:38):
They count homelessness by family unit without accounting
for size of the family. B They only include unsheltered
people, not accounting for thosealready in shelters but not able
to sustain themselves yet. C They do not consider anyone
homeless if they are receiving aregular paycheck above $100 per

(51:00):
week, which doesn't account for those struggling with debt.
Or D Their point in time count takes place on a specific night
in January when the homeless mayfind temporary refuge to escape
the cold. See.
I'm trying to think because I, Ifeel like it lies somewhere in
the fact that like how census takers would count that number,

(51:23):
right? Like how are you going to
determine how many? People are yeah, I I was
thinking the family unit when I think that one was a $100 a week
just seems so arbitrary, like it's not tied to the poverty
line or anything. But I mean maybe but my guess is
AI think that was the family unit 1.
This is good because BRD was my 5050 anyway so it's either not

(51:48):
account for sheltered people or they only do it they count on
one night. They'll yeah, not account for
sheltered people or they the night that they do it is in
January, when most are not out in the cold.
I'm gonna say it's BI. Think they don't count
sheltered. People, that would make sense.
The correct answer was D. Damn it.
Dang it. What?

(52:08):
When they when they do their their census for the homeless
everywhere, they do it on a specific night in January.
And so there's there's critiquesthat everywhere every single
year when they do the census of homeless people, it's in
January. And so there's a lot of people
that like hide from the cold. And so it is likely always under

(52:32):
counting the real number. Yeah, well, their homelessness
count keeps going down because we keep counting on colder and
colder days. It's climate change, am I right?
Unfortunately, since none of yougot the question correct you
none of you will have the opportunity to spend points and
you could have bought the ability to add 1 to your role.
Shoot, would I've been able to spend the points I got from

(52:54):
getting that question correct? You wouldn't master.
OK, good to know. Good to know.
Question 12. One of the most apparent ways
that you are guilty in this trial is when we look at
pollution and what it has done to your planet.
Looking at consumption based pollution per capita, rank the
following countries from highestto lowest, Australia, China,

(53:22):
India, the EU and the US. On the EU, a country game
master. It's perfect.
So it's a, it's a joint. I was going to say in order to
get the opportunity to to spend your points and and get the the
question, I'm going to say you must get 3 out of the five
relatively correct like in in the right order.

(53:45):
China, India, the United States,the EU, Australia.
OK. This is a little tough.
Gosh, I'm just, I'm just so sureabout India because like, you
know, it's yeah, that's. Where I'm hung up saying.
I will say, so I also did want to clarify what the consumption
based pollution is. So there's the production for

(54:06):
domestically and this also accounts for the import or
export of goods that are based in or have lots of emissions.
So if a. That's really interesting.
Imports goods that lots of you may if you'd like.
OK. Thank you, Mr. So that is, it

(54:26):
accounts for for that differenceif if a country is producing for
another country to consume, thenthat is counted as an export
which is subtracted from the country.
So I'm ready to, I'm ready to answer.
I'm going to go the United States, the EU, Australia,

(54:49):
India, China based off of consumption.
I have from top worst so Australia the most, US, China,
EU, India. The lowest.
OK, interesting. I India could be first though I
was so unsure. About The thing is it's a huge
population but like but like maybe brace sounds like emission

(55:11):
developed. I have US at the first I feel
like really high emissions and relatively low population is
going to give you a high per capita.
Then I have China because the export business is insane.
Then I have India middle of the.Road because.
I think the evening out of high population, but you know, their
technology also is a little bit less clean then Australia at

(55:32):
4:00 just because it's like there's not too much going on
like a lot of the land masses Outback right.
And then finally the EU is 5 because I feel like they have
less import export. They have a lot of trains, you
know. I feel like they're that was
kind of mine for you too. OK, nobody quite got it all, but
I think you were all, I think, the right general idea, so I'll

(55:53):
give you all the points for thatone.
Okay, what was the thing? Yeah, give us the answer is, and
this is in 2022, the United States at 16.5 tons per person.
Wow of established. Carbon dioxide emissions.
Then Australia at 12.9 tons, then the EU at 7.7 tons, then

(56:17):
China at 7.2 tons. Really.
India at 1.8 tons. Interesting.
Because it was a higher population.
So we all got. 3 correct. I'm surprised China's.
Think you all got 3 relatively correct.
I don't ever know how to score those lists things.
I'd like to spend all my points.Wait, so so do we now get 3

(56:39):
points and then we can spend or we can just spend so?
What we're going to do is since there's multiple people who got
this question right, we're goingto auction off this ability.
So starting at 3 points, if you spend the most, you will get the
ability to subtract 2 from someone else's role at the end.

(56:59):
Oh. There's a Can you go negative?
It's the question. Negative is better.
I want to clarify one thing, Game Master, can you say, I feel
like you said this earlier that as the questions go on in this
round, these incentives will gethigher.
So like they. Will get better as you go on.
OK. Question Game Master, Do we have
to no? Do we have to subtract before we

(57:19):
know the person's role? We have to subtract as soon as
you get it now or sorry, you have to just you have to decide
who you're going to choose as soon as you buy it.
Interesting. Follow up question with this
auction. Once I auction I don't.
If I don't win the auction, I still get my points back right?
All. Right.
Well, I'm going to auction all three of my I'm going to bid all

(57:41):
three of my points game. Wow.
OK, anyone for four going once? Oh God, twice.
Out bid 4. Whoa.
OK, Sam, with four and with fourhere 5.
Now Sam, I won't out bid you if you don't do it on me.
You do whatever you want. Once, OK, going twice, 5/8 in

(58:06):
with five, Sam for six. That's an expensive wait.
I have another clarifying question.
Are all of the future power ups,so to speak, are they also
bidding structure? That's how we're going to go
about this. Yeah, if more than one person
gets it right, then it'll be. Interesting.
No thanks. OK, sold to Aiden for five

(58:29):
points. Please deduct these five points
and choose who you would like tosubtract to.
I have another clarifying question.
You said points don't matter at the end, right?
It's only the roll of the dice, OK?
Only the roll of the dice. If I had let's like 5 points
leftover that were unspent, those aren't gonna do anything

(58:50):
for me. Those will not do anything.
All right, I'm gonna do cameras,OK?
Cameron, when you roll at the end you will have to subtract 2.
Got it. That's our life.
Moving on to question. Kill you, motherfucker.

(59:10):
Automotive speeding is another area where your people show
you're reckless, abandoned toward the safety of each other.
While 90% of people have admitted to going over the speed
limit. And what situations is speeding
legal? A When the flow of traffic is
above the limit to the point that driving the speed limit or

(59:32):
lower is dangerous. B when experiencing an
emergency, such as active labor or injury.
C When being actively pursued bysomeone with the intent to hurt
you or D It is never legal for unauthorized vehicles to speed.

(59:53):
Only one of these is correct. Only one of those is correct.
I'm gonna say D. OK, A OK, yeah.
I feel like B&C, you know, they're like, not technically
legal, but no one's gonna get you for it.
Right, they would be like a mitigating factor.
I'm gonna go a OK. You can.
You can get pulled over for not maintaining the flow of traffic.

(01:00:18):
Above the speed limit. You know, like if if you're
below the. Master, what's the right answer?
The correct answer is D It is never legal from unauthorized
vehicles to speed. While B&C can be defended under
a necessity or duress defense, it is not necessarily legal.
And then using A as a defense with an officer is effectively

(01:00:41):
admitting to speeding. So you should not.
You should not argue that against an officer.
Officer, why don't you pull all the other people over?
Classic and so since Sam you arethe only person to get that for
three points, you may buy the option which is if you roll
lower than a three, use A3 instead.

(01:01:06):
It's basically built in guarantee that you get at least
a three in the game. Cameron has a -2, which means
you only lose if Cameron rolls A6.
Wait, but did we clarify that Cameron is it -2 if he rolls?
Cameron will get a - 2 when he rolls.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like if he gets a one, is he

(01:01:28):
at no three that one? Yeah, that one makes sense, I
think if. I if I roll low, I should loop
back high, yeah? Who knows what the later
abilities are I. Like that idea?
All right, I'll, I'll buy it forthree.
OK, for three points, Sam, you now have the ability.
If you roll low one or two then it'll become a three.

(01:01:52):
I'm writing that down because I'll definitely forget.
You if you had the -2 with that though, you could basically
effectively win yourself A6. Hey, can I trade my negatives?
No, Sam, I'll. Sell it to you for three points.
On to question 14. Jaywalking is another action

(01:02:12):
that is regularly done in causeschaos in the literal streets.
But which of the following is where the term originates?
A Named for presidential candidate William Jennings
Bryan, who campaigned fiercely for pedestrians in the early
Automotive World, saying they are sure to keep the right of

(01:02:33):
way as the J and Jennings B. It was an evolution of J drivers
that was used for people who would drive their horse drawn
carriage on the wrong side of the road.
C started as J, the letter J walking, similar to the shape
that pedestrians would make around cars.

(01:02:55):
Or D derivation of Jake walking,which is a term used for how a
drunkard walks. C.
OK. The the oh gosh, the J.
There's no way I'm right but. In the president, I know that
was for something. Martin Van Buren, OK.
Yeah, but I feel like it was forsomething, but it wasn't for

(01:03:18):
jaywalking. That's like so weirdly specific.
Like I don't so I don't know D. OK.
Letter. Or is that the horse?
That was the Jake walking the horse.
On character was B&C was the letter J.
I'll do the. I'll do a.
OK, so Aiden said A, Cameron said C and Sam said D.

(01:03:41):
The correct answer was B. Damn.
It so it was an evolution of J drivers.
Interesting. And it was it was brought over
to pedestrians because the automotive, like lobbyists
started using it as like a basically a slur against
pedestrian. Australians.
That's insane. Moved the the roads to be much

(01:04:02):
more automotive focused because in the early days of of cars it
was actually pedestrians and cars had equal right of way and
there were a lot of pedestrians to.
Casualties. So with that, since nobody got
that one, nobody has the option to spin points to buy the

(01:04:24):
ability to roll an 8 sided die instead.
Damn it, that would have worked well for me.
I don't know. I don't know if that one's oh,
it's cracked up too. Oh shut up Aiden, you don't have
minus fucking 2. Yeah, that's fair.
I'm sorry. All right, and the game master
if I kill. My opponents before we get to
the round, do I just win Cameron?
Jumps through this. I said, I said this earlier,

(01:04:45):
Cameron, that you are not to be the tool of justice.
Question. Oh no, there's no justice.
It's gonna be petty revenge. Finally, to get down to the
basics, in 2020 a joke ethics theory went viral on Twitter.
It described a normal situation in which all people are put in a
position where there is a societal quote right thing to

(01:05:08):
do. There is no specific incentive
toward doing it, and at the sametime no disincentive for not
doing it. It is completely voluntary.
So it was proposed to be the ultimate litmus of whether a
person is self governing. What is this event?
Like just Charlie Chaplin rules.Charlie Chaplin rules.

(01:05:31):
So there's no incentive for doing it, there's no incentive
for not doing it, and it is an objectively right thing to do.
Correct. What is this event?
Is it a normal situation that people come across?
Oh. Oh, got it.
OK, it's. Stopping at a red light when no
one else is around. OK, that's.

(01:05:53):
Cool. That's really good, Cameron,
right. Yeah, Well.
Shit, there there is a disincentive for not doing it or
an incentive for doing it. I guess I should say I don't
know. Yeah, what is?
Right, cuz it's like you think no one's well, you're waiting.
For the thing, right? Like it's gonna take you time
to, I don't know. I don't know man, I just fucking

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went with it. That it's good.
I'm trying to think though. Gosh, no, but that's a good one.
It's a real brain. Tease.
A few moments later. Wow, a lot of Dead Space, huh?
Yeah. A lot of thinking going on.
Luckily, it's just gonna come something dumb right now.
Am I gonna have to? Am I gonna have to start
counting down? Do a game master you're.

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Gonna think of like the nice. I just keep thinking of things
and then eliminating them. Yeah, like.
Exactly. The worst thing is I think I
have seen some reference to thison social media.
Which? Is yeah, I'm gonna need answers
here in the next few seconds. Okay like this is just what I'm
ending on, but like a teacher choosing to be a bad teacher.

(01:07:02):
Okay. I don't even know what that
means. Like they could just lie down on
the job. The thing I'm landing on is
like, you know, picking up litter or something like that,
right? There's no reason to not do it.
There's no reason to do it. It's not going to help every,
but it is an objective right thing to do.
OK, OK. I like that.
I think I'm going to give the points to both Cameron and

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Aiden, both along the right vibe.
However, the thing with Cameron,I will say if you do run a red
light, you don't know if a cop is secretly watching.
That was my thinking, right? Right.
Yeah, that's true. There's the and then with, well,
with Aiden. What's the actual?
Answer. The actual answer is returning a
shopping cart to its corral. Yes, Oh yes, I've been watching

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a cart because I remember I was like, that's.
Crazy. So that was proposed as it is a
normal situation. Pretty much everybody has gone
to the store with a shopping cart.
There's an objective right thingto do of returning the shopping
cart. There's not an incentive to
return it, and there's not any disincentive for if you don't
return. It you're not punished.

(01:08:09):
Yeah, you're not punished for. I don't.
Know I don't know if I agree with that because there's a
social element to it. Well, that's like, that's the
thing. This is the.
Guy that's. True not on social media is
trying to create a social thing to get people to do it because
it's always a. Social thing.
If someone walks away and just leaves their cart in the middle
of a parking spot, everyone around him goes.
Man, that guy's kind of an asshole.

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I don't know how often you thinksomebody's watching you leave
carts if you do well. It is every time I go to the
grocery store and watch someone leave their cart in a parking
spot, I think to myself, man, that guy's an asshole.
But if you if you just think that to yourself, how is that a
disincentive to him? Because I look at the guy and
go, This guy looks like it. This guy looks like he thinks

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I'm an asshole. It is an objective, right?
You give him that specific part.Give him the could hit someone's
part. And he really feels it at his.
Back so Aiden and I both got thepoints.
Wait, No, no, no, no. Give him.
Aster No. What else is in that photo?
What I'm gonna do His face, OK? So since you both got the points
for that one, it's not gonna matter.

(01:09:13):
Working out is. Scared.
Sorry. Aiden has more points.
To auction the ability to give yourself a second role and take
its highest advantage. Yeah, that's where it was going
the whole time, baby. Yeah.
We're gonna start the bidding at.
Four points, yes, I'll bid 4 points, okay.
So that's the problem is I actually only have 4 points

(01:09:36):
because I spent 5 on the. All right then I'm bidding all
six of my points. Oh, he's betting all six.
If you wait, what you bet is he of four Cameron.
You don't need to bet 6. Well, what am I going to do
with? Master.
That's fair. May I challenge now a past
question to give me 3 points to get a?
Master, I thought the rule was you had to.

(01:09:58):
Challenge to do something else? Was that a rule?
Yeah. I'm not going to require you to
challenge in the middle. If you would like to challenge
now, I will allow you. What would the challenge for me,
Yeah. I'm not going to say the effect
until we. Get.
Oh my goodness. Interesting.
So it's do I want Cameron to have advantage with a -, 2 or

(01:10:21):
and save my challenge for a mystery effect?
Game Master follow up question, does the -2 only apply to one of
my roles? It would apply to both of your
roles, but. That's but it's shit it.
Would apply to the one you take Cameron right?
That's the one you take, right? Yeah, right.
In DND where you still get to take the highest one.
You add your modifier after. You choose.

(01:10:44):
The role I'm getting all. Six of my points.
Give. Me some fucking.
I am withholding because I want to.
I want to see what this challenge thing is.
Congratulations Cameron, you have advantage for your final
role with that. So we're not going to do a score
check because points don't matter here.
The only thing that matters in the end is the role.

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However, for the challenge question, Cameron already
challenged Sam and Aiden. You are required to challenge
and since you waited until the end, if you catch it, you get a
+ 3 on your role. If you do not, you will get a
-1. Oh, I wish I had managed.
The game master I don't. I wrote one down.

(01:11:26):
I think it's the saw traps. I think you had a really easy
out with the pendulum trap and maybe it was inspired by Edgar
Allan Poe and they're all real. OK, Sam.
Fuck I is review available. Review is available for a price.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
They. Could take -2 if he gets a

(01:11:47):
review. I'll give you 6 points.
OK. I'll take your six points.
All right, doing your. Review.
Question. OK, so they repeat.
They did off questions so they could remember.
What they were. Oof, OK, gonna be honest, I'm
between the census one, which I think was #11 because that just

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seems absolutely nuts. I had that one written down as
well. I feel like it because it just
seems impractical and like undoable.
I know the issues they've been having with the census in terms
of like getting people to even do it and just coordinating that
sort of thing. I don't think is possible in one
night. Like it might be you have to do
it sometime in January or something.

(01:12:28):
Or #3 the CIA Waterboarding 1. They are.
Elected because like, I feel like if if Trump would change
one thing, it would be that. Like you did decide, like I
didn't say it about right I'm. Sure, there was something about
that in there. Are we still?
In the water boarding now. Yeah, right.
That's the one thing Trump wouldchange, not any of the other

(01:12:50):
million things. I, I was trying to make a must
have. So I, but I think I'm still
gonna go with #11 the, the way the census is taken of, of
homeless people. OK, I'll.
Be so mad. If that's it, I'll be so sad.
I will tell you one of you did get the challenge question.
Oh God. I live when you.

(01:13:10):
Reveal it that way. So one of you.
I'm sure threes, right one. Of you gets a -1.
This. Is like decisive.
Do you want? Do you want me to reveal it
after the role? Yes, actually, that'd be so
good. Keep it, keep it, keep it,
please. Please.
OK. OK, good.
OK, so it's not CIA 1, so it's not OK.

(01:13:30):
It's OK. Trump did.
This is insane. I'm sure it's coming.
OK. So don't give him idea to see
him. Do all of you have access to No.
Yes. To a what?
6 sided die. Six sided die.
Just a real. No.
I do not know. I don't, sorry.
Come on guys, I would share. Cooper, I would let Aiden roll

(01:13:52):
for me and I. Trust Cameron, What did you
just. Game Master.
Give him another mindful. No, just kidding.
Are. Do the rules not apply all the
time? Mr. Game Master, if you beg
Cameron, I won't. I'm sorry, Game Master.
It makes him. Churlish and childish of me.
I'm not worthy. I want you to remember this,

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Cameron. Remember the mercy I've shown
you. Wow at.
This time, thank you, Game. Thank you, Game Master.
I wanted to take this time. I have this really nice dice set
that Addison got me for my birthday, I think, and I've
never rolled them and they're very pretty.
And so this is the first roll and if it goes well.
Ever. Then you got it's.

(01:14:33):
Obviously. It's fault, Yeah.
It's as your girlfriend's fault.Yeah, I'm also fine with Aiden
rolling for me if I can go aftermy rolling Aiden.
Rolls for us. I I trust that he will tell the
truth. Yeah, the whole truth and
nothing but baby. OK, I hear that Aiden.
If you could roll on camera. Oh, and I'm not my ball scores
anymore so you can turn on the lights.

(01:14:54):
Oh, OK, OK. This is this kind of like bluey?
Silver. One, I love this set.
Hey. Sam there's pretty good ones.
This one is like has some sparkles in it.
It's like kind of like an ice crystal magic sparkle moment.
This one is a gold and like has little little light flex in it.

(01:15:19):
I'm gonna go to target and buy adie set.
And if I come back and he's still showing these off,
Cameron? Wants this one kill myself.
I'll take the red one. OK, I want the red one OK.
So blue dice is Cameron, red is Sam, green is Aiden.
Yeah, baby Apple technology. So Cameron first cuz he has the

(01:15:39):
fun little minus that is a three.
I also get advantage. You get advantage, so 4.
Great. So that's a four for Cameron,
Sam. So I I got a 2.
Is A1 for Sam which? Becomes a three.
Which becomes a three and a nineA5.

(01:16:03):
Thank you, Addison. OK, so Cameron's at 2.
I lose regardless. Sam's at 3.
No, but the challenger gets 3 minus right?
Aiden's at 55. Sam IF.
You get the 1 minus you. Would say it's minus. 10 Sorry
you missed one. OK.
Yes, so I can. Drop God What you're telling me?

(01:16:25):
Come on, Sensors. Making it out of here
regardless, it's whether or not Sam and I have a sudden death or
both get. Stopped.
And the person who got the challenge question was Aiden.
It was the SAW question. Baby.

(01:16:47):
So it's an. 8 So the pendulum trap did happen in Saw.
Wow. It was actually done by a
copycat rather than Jigsaw, but it was featured in the Saw
movies. That's what happens.
What happens to Sam and I now Game Master?
I liked the idea of a roll off. Oh my gosh.

(01:17:09):
No, no add-ons, just good. Just straight.
Straight rolling luck roll OK, OK, Do you want a new?
If you want a new, no. Just send one send it.
OK, I'm just going to shoot it over here.
Rolling above the ones. There's a 2 for Sam and a one
for Cameron. Cameron, I would say I'm sorry

(01:17:31):
for you, but I cannot. This path that you have let
yourself down was not going to last forever.
It needed an ending, a resolution that only I am able
to provide. What did you do?
I was appointed here, you see, to carry out the will of someone
greater, someone who understandsthe power a lie and deceit can

(01:17:55):
hold. But you see, I am here to lead
the way. Before his cloud of fear and
confusion may settle, I am here to inform you of your guilt.
When he comes, you will not be victims.
You'll receive your due punishment.
But before that, it is first your turn.

(01:18:18):
Cameron. Holy crap, what is that?
It looks like 5 lights bus that has been transformed into a
large robot. I'm getting out of here.

(01:18:40):
Hello my friends, it is the Octopus Prime.
Oh, I'm here. To James X Machina.
You're all out of here. Thank God, Bird.
Calm aboard before the red hot walls push us into that pit.
Thanks. Octopus.

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You can control yourself any longer.
You can control yourself any longer.