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October 22, 2025 26 mins

If you’re the strong one, the go-to, the strategist, the fixer — this episode is for you. Because even the strongest leaders need a place to lean. In this heartfelt, truth-filled conversation, Jan unpacks what it means to create a “Third Space” — a sacred, intentional pause where you can be seen, cared for, and reminded that your value isn’t in what you produce. Drawing from personal experience and spiritual insight, Jan shares why every high-capacity woman needs room to exhale — and how doing so isn't selfish... it’s sustainable.

This episode is a permission slip to put something down — and let God fill the space.

What You’ll Hear:

  • Why being Wonder Woman can wear you out
  • The turning point that led Jan to her own Third Space
  • How Jesus modeled the power of pausing
  • Practical ways to reset and receive without guilt
  • A soft invitation into deeper rest through the upcoming Third Space Retreat

Favorite Quotes:

“Leadership doesn’t mean you stop needing care. It means you have to fight harder to receive it.”
“You’ve been carrying what I never asked you to hold alone.” – what Jan heard from the Lord during her reset
“Creating space for yourself doesn’t make you selfish. It makes you sustainable.”

Episode Highlights:

  • [01:32] The emotional cost of being everyone’s go-to
  • [05:10] A story of grief, burnout, and unexpected breakthrough
  • [09:55] What “Third Space” actually means — and why you need one
  • [15:12] Small but sacred ways to carve out space in your week
  • [21:00] The retreat vision God gave Jan — and your invitation to gather

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