April 21, 2025 • 23 mins
What happens when a doctor trades a comfortable $250,000 salary for a mission to revolutionize healthcare? Dr. Vaz reveals his bold journey from traditional medicine to founding Vitality Medical, where every patient gets his cell phone number and pays just $50 per visit – no surprise bills, no collections, just straightforward care.
Born into a family with medical roots (his father was a paramedic), Dr. Vaz carried forward that healing tradition but eventually found himself frustrated by corporate healthcare's constraints. Around 2005-2006, he witnessed what he calls "the Gucci shoes and Prada belt takeover of medicine" – a fundamental shift where insurance companies began acquiring hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies, creating monopolistic structures that prioritize profits over patients. This transformation relegated doctors to employee status with diminishing control over cost and access.
The heart of Dr. Vaz's vision lies in his Vast Care Clinic, which he describes not as a business but as a "movement" with moral principles at its core. Operating with minimal staff and sharing responsibilities with his psychologist wife, he's built a practice that deliberately challenges healthcare norms. When patients receive his personal number on a sticky note, their surprise reveals how conditioned we've become to barriers between doctors and patients. The transparency extends to his services, which range from primary care to psychological counseling, autism testing, and treatment for various conditions.
For entrepreneurs in any field, Dr. Vaz offers a powerful three-ingredient recipe: self-belief, grit, and consistency. "If bad times persuade you to quit," he notes, "it wasn't your dream." These principles have enabled him to thrive despite competing with massive healthcare systems. As he puts it, when you walk through doorways of those large facilities, "nobody can tell you how much you're going to pay or when you'll be seen – it's like a magic trick." At Vitality Medical, he's determined to show exactly how the tiger disappears.
Ready to experience healthcare as it should be? Visit Vitality Medical at 3206 Cove Bend Drive in Tampa, Florida, or search for direct primary care providers who prioritize transparency in your area. Your health deserves nothing less.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back everyone to Business Talk, the show,
where we dive deep into theindustries that keep our world
moving forward.
I'm your host, didier, and intoday's episode I'm speaking
with Dr Vaz.
He's the owner of VitalityMedical.
How are you doing, dr Vaz?
Doing good, doing good, havinga great afternoon, listeners?
(00:21):
Each episode, we sit down withexperts, innovators and business
owners to uncover the realstories and insider knowledge.
Plus, we will discuss someimportant topics as it relates
to their industry, and if youenjoy the content and want to
hear more, please be sure to hitthe subscribe button like
(00:42):
comment.
You know all those good thingsto help us continue to push this
out in the YouTube algorithm.
With that being said, I want tokind of allow Dr Vaz to kind of
share with everybody ourlisteners his background.
Dr Vaz.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Good to be here, didier.
I mean, my background is thisis three words passion for
medicine.
That's my background Since Iwas very little.
I had a knack for healing mydad paramedic by trade and I
took it to the next step inmedicine.
So, generationally, I was ableto achieve that growth and that
(01:22):
evolution and, you know, cameinto medicine as an internist
and ringside physician at 2013.
I started my career in 2002 inmed school, but graduated and
entered the real world in 2013.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
As everybody says right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
The real world.
Yeah, people say no, no, no.
I've been a doctor for X amountof time.
I started in med school.
No, no, no, no, no.
When you graduate, you haveyour license and you form your
first LLC or you sign your firstcontract with a company.
That's your genesis, that'sright.
That's day zero.
That's day zero, right there.
So in 2013, I started work fora company for the better part of
(02:12):
the first six or seven years ofthat that beginning in medicine
, and then I decided to turn toentrepreneurship and to really
change the paradigm and injectmy personality into medicine.
As you know, when having abrand yourself, when you sign on
the dotted line, a contract asa physician, you have thousands
(02:33):
of hours and blood, sweat andtears, nights, lost, birthdays,
missed family members, familymembers that pass away and
you're not able to say goodbyejust to get the craft.
But as soon as you sign forblank, blank hospital, you're
representing them and you ceaseto be the person that gave all
(02:54):
that blood, sweat and tear toachieve the career.
I decided to stop doing that andstart representing myself and
start building a unique brandand delivery of healthcare a
different way.
So I've been doing that for thebetter part of the last four
years and I absolutely love it.
I would have done it earlier,but I realized that experience
(03:15):
needed to come and I needed tostumble and, to you know, be
called in by some CEOs or COOsbecause they didn't like a
Facebook post that I made andthey reminded me hey, we're
paying you and you have torepresent us.
And I'm like, oh, I know what Ineed to do.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And I like what you said, the two words I got out of
.
That is, I got out of a lot ofwhat you said, but the the words
you said unique brand that'spretty powerful.
Man, right, as a business owner, we all want to create that
unique brand that continues tomove, you know, for decades to
come.
Yeah, so that's a that'sinteresting.
(04:00):
So where has that led you today?
And I know again, you, beingthe owner of Vitality Medical,
you offer so many differentservices, from regenerative
medicine to bioidentical hormonetreatment, food allergy testing
, anti-aging, any of those youwant to kind of pick up on and
(04:23):
talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I'll tell you what's near and dear to my heart
right now Vast Care Clinicright is my brick and mortar,
and what I would say that it'sthe most important thing for me
is access to health care.
Right now, the paradigm andthis is the most important thing
(04:44):
that I'm going to discuss todayWe'll talk about some other
stuff, but this is the message Iwant to give Right now,
healthcare has been taken overby corporate America.
Right 9-11 happened and a lotof people said, well, investment
is unstable.
(05:05):
We need an industry that hassolid footing, that never
suffers through war or throughrecession.
What industry is it?
Healthcare, and the hostiletakeover or the Gucci shoes and
(05:28):
Prada belt takeover of medicinestarted around, you know, around
2005, 2006, with theacquisition of hospitals and
insurances slowly but surelycreeping up their involvement in
health care, from mergingpharmaceutical companies and
(05:54):
pharmacies, from buyingpharmacies to buying clinics and
having doctors working forinsurances, which is a paradigm
that I would never understand.
How it's legal, but theystarted being healthcare, so
healthcare insurances startedbeing healthcare.
Imagine if car insurances wouldstart buying tire shops or auto
parts.
People would deem it illegal.
(06:18):
And what's the word I'm lookingfor?
A monopoly, a monopoly right.
People would be like how canyou be Geico and own tire shops
Right, being a monopoly.
But it was allowed for healthcare insurances to slowly but
surely be the only game in town,owning urgent care, hospitals
(06:40):
and all that good stuff.
So doctors are relegated asemployees and all that good
stuff.
So doctors are relegated asemployees and as employees, we
have no say in cost of care oraccess to care.
I decided to break with my$250,000 a year salary and say
you know what?
We'll start from zero, okay,and a visit in my clinic, the
(07:01):
Vascular Clinic, is going to be$50 flat.
That's a flat fee.
My friends, other doctors, saidthat's crazy.
Okay, you're shooting yourselfon the foot, you're being crazy,
it's not going to work and youneed to be employed and you need
to go back to the model thatworks and make X amount of money
(07:24):
, work in your 401k, but thathas no vision and that has no
spice in life, right.
And if you're dedicated, if youdedicated your career to
helping people but you sold outto a big corporation, not that
that's bad, right In practice.
Right In practice.
Morally not the best thing todo.
(07:50):
So I decided to take control andeverybody that walks through my
doors, has price transparency.
There's no outgoing bills,there's no outgoing collections.
In some instances patients say,hey, I just have $40.
Can I be seen?
I'm like, step in, I got you.
Wow, I create a culture ofshowing that healthcare can be
(08:10):
delivered in a different way,with a different paradigm.
Of course, it takes otherthings to allow that.
Right, we have to run askeleton crew.
I do a lot of the work and and,uh, you know my wife, who's a
huge part of this, she's apsychologist, dr hernandez, and
um, we divide the cost and werun, uh, a, a, not a mom and pop
(08:37):
.
That that seems.
That seems unfitting, but werun a grassroots healthcare
clinic.
And not a clinic, a movementMovement.
Okay, I like that Because ithas a moral principle behind it,
okay, and the growth it hasshown.
(09:00):
It has shown me that if alldoctors and this is a very bold,
this is a very bold, veryinflammatory remark If all
doctors today okay, 4-21-2025,all doctors say we're not going
to mess around with insurance,we're going to only do cash pay
(09:24):
if the insurances want anythingto do with us, we'll see you
tomorrow at the negotiatingtable.
Everything screeches to a haltfaster than you know, one
government tariffing anothergovernment, so you know how many
stocks would go and justcompletely crash.
(09:46):
We have that power.
It's that elephant that youknow.
There's this story about theelephant that gets the tie to
the neck and wear that elephant.
Some of us have already pulledthat chain from the floor.
I'm doing it just so otherpeople follow us and do the same
(10:10):
, and then we create anenvironment where there's
competition and there'salternatives for healthcare.
So that's the beauty of it andthat's my main message.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's the beauty of it and that's my main message on
how grateful they are.
Or thank you, you know, Dr Vaz,for helping my family, helping
me.
Anything you want to share,that kind of stands out.
Maybe one or two, no names, butyeah yeah, absolutely the first
(10:56):
thing.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
All my patients have my cell phone, which is
something that, again, likeother peers that have that are
doctors like you're insane.
You're going to get floodedwith calls.
I don't People get surprised.
I would say the anecdote that Isee it every day happen.
(11:18):
You know, I have a new patientthat you know I do very little
promoting.
If I do my job well, a patientbrings me two or three patients,
correct, but I have to do myjob well.
Every time I sit down with themand they're like I give them a
sticky note.
I'm OG, I'm old school, I havepresentation cards and all that
(11:38):
stuff.
I like sticky notes.
I'm like all right, here's mycell phone.
Anything happens, give me acall, shoot me a text, it's you,
your phone.
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's like are you serious?
Are you serious, dr Vag?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Are you really a doctor?
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, youcan look me up in the websites
and all that stuff.
Yeah, they have this look ofabout them.
I'm like the older peopleappreciated more and they
because they still remember 20year olds have never lived in a
world that that exists.
I saw my younger patients.
You know they have their, butlike the 60 year olds and 70
(12:18):
year olds, they're like.
They're like again I have itagain.
Okay, thank you.
They grab this thing, youolds.
They're like ah, again I haveit again.
Okay, thank you.
They grab the sticky note andthey're very grateful for it.
But if nobody crosses that lineand I've been known to be a
habitual line stepper all mylife If nobody crosses that line
, we don't make change.
And this is the line that needsto be crossed.
(12:40):
For healthcare to becomeaffordable, we don't need fancy
commercials.
We don't need fancy commercials.
We don't need, you know, thethree-floor clinics.
In some instances we do right,but that can't be the norm.
Right, we need guys that areenergetic.
You need to be bold and proud ofwhat you achieve, because being
(13:02):
a doctor, my father-in-law toldme once and he has passed since
but he's like a doctor is notonly a doctor.
Doctor is an agent of change insociety.
If you're not doing that andyou're clocking in and you're
clocking out and you're gettingyour check from from acme
hospital company and you'reshowing up to the to the
(13:24):
christmas party on your suit andyou're towing the company line
which is not bad, I would justgo ahead say say that's you,
that's you.
If you're towing the companyline, I feel for you you because
you're missing that essence,that deliciousness of medicine.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're missing change .
You're missing the paradigmshift.
Yes, that's basically whatyou're doing.
You're creating a new paradigmshift, like industries have done
in the past.
You're revolutionizing yourindustry by, you know, looking
at where it's at, and you're avisionary and you're actually
(14:08):
taking that and making it betterfor not only other doctors if
they choose to move forward inthat realm but for your patients
, and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible,and we've had Spectrum News show
up a couple times in the officeand we've been blessed to be on
here in your podcast, but we'vebeen blessed to be on Joe Rogan
and Jason podcast, like theTinfoil Hat podcast, and the
American podcast.
We've graced great platformslike El Nuevo Dia.
(14:59):
That's podcast.
We've done the big, big thingswith that and expanding our
brand and our presence, whichleads to more people being taken
care of.
It's not just emboldeningourselves and growing and being
this cool kind of hippiemovement clinic.
No, it gives access to care.
(15:24):
Because people listen, they'relike oh, I didn't know I could
get seen for this, much you knowI like your stance as an
entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You mentioned that in the beginning.
Right, we're all businessowners.
We're working towards, you know, trying to bring our brand out
you.
So it has legs, it has movement.
So let's talk about there arelisteners here that are maybe
aspiring entrepreneurs, maybethey wanna get into your
industry in the medical field.
Maybe they are stuck right nowtrying to move that needle
(15:57):
forward in their business.
Any advice since you'rewell-versed that you can give,
or pointers that you can give toour listeners about keeping
that needle moving forward?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
yeah, we're starting it first of all, you, you have
to believe in what you do right.
If it's health care, if it'spsychology, if it's you know
construction, if it's you knowmeal prep, whatever it is it is,
you got to believe in what youdo and you got to do it well.
When you have and have thatself-belief, there's a lot of
limiting beliefs inentrepreneurship and you have to
(16:35):
be go beyond that.
And big, big, big corporationsare intimidating because when
you do something, you're there'ssomebody that is doing it right
now.
Bigger, Undoubtedly,Undoubtedly, Somebody is doing
if you want to do something,somebody is doing millions of
dollars doing something likethat or adjacent to what you
(16:57):
want to do.
Don't let that unmotivate you.
Right, I have.
You know, my clinic is a smallclinic, 1,700 square feet, five
rooms in there, Small.
We have psychology and we havehealthcare in there.
And you know, there's in thesame plaza there's clinics that
(17:24):
are double my space.
Or you know, you drive furtherdown the road and there is
there's a.
You know, I don't want tomention any brands, but there's
brand new hospitals that arethousands and thousands of
square feet and stacked from topto bottom, but when you go
(17:44):
through the door nobody can tellyou how much you're going to
pay when you're going to be seen.
It's like a magic trick.
You go to a David Copperfieldshow.
He's not going to show you howhe made that tiger disappear In
my clinic.
I'll show you right off the bat.
Hey, this is how I made mytiger disappear.
(18:04):
Come on in, Sit down.
You want a coffee?
I got you.
You have to believe in what youdo.
Whatever you do, if you haveself-belief.
The second ingredient that Iwant on this recipe is grit.
You have to have grit.
You're going to have bad days,You're going to have bad weeks,
You're going to have bad monthsand, as an entrepreneur, you're
(18:25):
going to have bad quarters.
But that can't persuade youfrom.
If it persuades you, it wasn'tyour dream.
If that persuades you, itwasn't your dream.
So you have to believe what youdo.
You have to have grit and withthose two ingredients
(18:46):
consistency, the last one.
If you're consistent, you'regoing to see the results.
Consistency, the last one, Ifyou're consistent, you're going
to see the results.
Those three you put themtogether and that's the perfect
recipe to do whatever you wantto do in the entrepreneurship
realm.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I love it.
Recipe for success.
Well, Dr Vaz, anything else youwant to kind of share with our
audience before we wrap this up?
Share with our audience beforewe wrap this up.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Absolutely.
When you're thinking abouthealthcare, I won't tell you,
come to Vascare Clinic, right?
If you get to me, I'll show youwhat healthcare is, what it's
meant to be.
But let's say you're shoppingand you're not, because I'm in
Tampa, florida.
Let's say you're not in Tampa,you're in Miami, which, by the
(19:33):
way, so many people in Miami Imean so far.
But if you're looking for ahealthcare provider, you have to
look for someone that is thatone listens to you.
Always ask for credentials,Talk to the person If the person
(19:56):
is in a computer and is notlooking at you, you know that
that's not your forever doctorand ask for price up front and
ask what happens if I can't makethat fee?
Right, do I have an alternative?
Those are the questions thatyou have to make.
(20:20):
There's far and few in between.
But there's great doctors thatare in the direct.
What I do is called directprimary care.
Slash concierge, right,concierge is a little bit
pricier and a little bit bougier, but direct primary care.
There's great doctors in thatspace that get flooded by the
(20:40):
advertisement for the bigplayers in the industry.
Yeah, correct.
So look for the hidden gems.
They're worth it and if you'rein Tampa, I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Let's talk about that .
Can you provide our listenerswith a phone number as well as a
website?
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Absolutely.
I'm old school.
I'm on 3206 Cove Bend Drive.
It's a fantastic office.
We have psychological staff inthere.
We have a licensed healthmental LMHC.
So licensed mental health.
But they say, is it coach orcounselors?
(21:23):
Licensed mental healthcounselors my wife is here too
Awesome, she's verifying that.
I don't say anything.
So we have licensed mentalhealth counselors that are
phenomenal, that handle anythingfrom pediatric cases in the
psychological realm to familycounseling, to couples therapy,
(21:49):
to individual therapy fordepression, anxiety.
We do testing forneuropsychometric diseases like
autism and ADHD.
So we have a test that DrHernandez takes care of that.
So we have those services and inthe office, of course, you'll
have old school internalmedicine with me and we do take
(22:13):
some insurances.
We're a hybrid office.
We take Cigna, aetna, medicare,humana, tricare, those.
But for the people that don'thave insurance, which are one of
the demographics I most carefor, your visits are always flat
(22:33):
.
It's $50.
You want to come in for atoothache?
You want to come in to get someantibiotics.
You want to come in because youneed a refill for your high
blood pressure medicine.
You want to come in because youhave some chest pain?
The fee is going to always beexactly the same.
So I dare you to try it and seethe difference.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Dr Vaz, it's been such a pleasure, you know, being
able for you to share yourvision.
What you're currently doing foryour patients and future
patients as well, and thebusiness model that you and your
wife have set up is very it's agood model and I just want to
thank you so much for being partof this and hopefully we can
(23:25):
have you back in the near futureagain.
Love to Thank you so much.
Welcome back everyone to Business Talk, the show,
where we dive deep into theindustries that keep our world
moving forward.
I'm your host, didier, and intoday's episode I'm speaking
with Dr Vaz.
He's the owner of VitalityMedical.
How are you doing, dr Vaz?
Doing good, doing good, havinga great afternoon, listeners?
(00:21):
Each episode, we sit down withexperts, innovators and business
owners to uncover the realstories and insider knowledge.
Plus, we will discuss someimportant topics as it relates
to their industry, and if youenjoy the content and want to
hear more, please be sure to hitthe subscribe button like
(00:42):
comment.
You know all those good thingsto help us continue to push this
out in the YouTube algorithm.
With that being said, I want tokind of allow Dr Vaz to kind of
share with everybody ourlisteners his background.
Dr Vaz.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Good to be here, didier.
I mean, my background is thisis three words passion for
medicine.
That's my background Since Iwas very little.
I had a knack for healing mydad paramedic by trade and I
took it to the next step inmedicine.
So, generationally, I was ableto achieve that growth and that
(01:22):
evolution and, you know, cameinto medicine as an internist
and ringside physician at 2013.
I started my career in 2002 inmed school, but graduated and
entered the real world in 2013.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
As everybody says right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
The real world.
Yeah, people say no, no, no.
I've been a doctor for X amountof time.
I started in med school.
No, no, no, no, no.
When you graduate, you haveyour license and you form your
first LLC or you sign your firstcontract with a company.
That's your genesis, that'sright.
That's day zero.
That's day zero, right there.
So in 2013, I started work fora company for the better part of
(02:12):
the first six or seven years ofthat that beginning in medicine
, and then I decided to turn toentrepreneurship and to really
change the paradigm and injectmy personality into medicine.
As you know, when having abrand yourself, when you sign on
the dotted line, a contract asa physician, you have thousands
(02:33):
of hours and blood, sweat andtears, nights, lost, birthdays,
missed family members, familymembers that pass away and
you're not able to say goodbyejust to get the craft.
But as soon as you sign forblank, blank hospital, you're
representing them and you ceaseto be the person that gave all
(02:54):
that blood, sweat and tear toachieve the career.
I decided to stop doing that andstart representing myself and
start building a unique brandand delivery of healthcare a
different way.
So I've been doing that for thebetter part of the last four
years and I absolutely love it.
I would have done it earlier,but I realized that experience
(03:15):
needed to come and I needed tostumble and, to you know, be
called in by some CEOs or COOsbecause they didn't like a
Facebook post that I made andthey reminded me hey, we're
paying you and you have torepresent us.
And I'm like, oh, I know what Ineed to do.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And I like what you said, the two words I got out of
.
That is, I got out of a lot ofwhat you said, but the the words
you said unique brand that'spretty powerful.
Man, right, as a business owner, we all want to create that
unique brand that continues tomove, you know, for decades to
come.
Yeah, so that's a that'sinteresting.
(04:00):
So where has that led you today?
And I know again, you, beingthe owner of Vitality Medical,
you offer so many differentservices, from regenerative
medicine to bioidentical hormonetreatment, food allergy testing
, anti-aging, any of those youwant to kind of pick up on and
(04:23):
talk about.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And I'll tell you what's near and dear to my heart
right now Vast Care Clinicright is my brick and mortar,
and what I would say that it'sthe most important thing for me
is access to health care.
Right now, the paradigm andthis is the most important thing
(04:44):
that I'm going to discuss todayWe'll talk about some other
stuff, but this is the message Iwant to give Right now,
healthcare has been taken overby corporate America.
Right 9-11 happened and a lotof people said, well, investment
is unstable.
(05:05):
We need an industry that hassolid footing, that never
suffers through war or throughrecession.
What industry is it?
Healthcare, and the hostiletakeover or the Gucci shoes and
(05:28):
Prada belt takeover of medicinestarted around, you know, around
2005, 2006, with theacquisition of hospitals and
insurances slowly but surelycreeping up their involvement in
health care, from mergingpharmaceutical companies and
(05:54):
pharmacies, from buyingpharmacies to buying clinics and
having doctors working forinsurances, which is a paradigm
that I would never understand.
How it's legal, but theystarted being healthcare, so
healthcare insurances startedbeing healthcare.
Imagine if car insurances wouldstart buying tire shops or auto
parts.
People would deem it illegal.
(06:18):
And what's the word I'm lookingfor?
A monopoly, a monopoly right.
People would be like how canyou be Geico and own tire shops
Right, being a monopoly.
But it was allowed for healthcare insurances to slowly but
surely be the only game in town,owning urgent care, hospitals
(06:40):
and all that good stuff.
So doctors are relegated asemployees and all that good
stuff.
So doctors are relegated asemployees and as employees, we
have no say in cost of care oraccess to care.
I decided to break with my$250,000 a year salary and say
you know what?
We'll start from zero, okay,and a visit in my clinic, the
(07:01):
Vascular Clinic, is going to be$50 flat.
That's a flat fee.
My friends, other doctors, saidthat's crazy.
Okay, you're shooting yourselfon the foot, you're being crazy,
it's not going to work and youneed to be employed and you need
to go back to the model thatworks and make X amount of money
(07:24):
, work in your 401k, but thathas no vision and that has no
spice in life, right.
And if you're dedicated, if youdedicated your career to
helping people but you sold outto a big corporation, not that
that's bad, right In practice.
Right In practice.
Morally not the best thing todo.
(07:50):
So I decided to take control andeverybody that walks through my
doors, has price transparency.
There's no outgoing bills,there's no outgoing collections.
In some instances patients say,hey, I just have $40.
Can I be seen?
I'm like, step in, I got you.
Wow, I create a culture ofshowing that healthcare can be
(08:10):
delivered in a different way,with a different paradigm.
Of course, it takes otherthings to allow that.
Right, we have to run askeleton crew.
I do a lot of the work and and,uh, you know my wife, who's a
huge part of this, she's apsychologist, dr hernandez, and
um, we divide the cost and werun, uh, a, a, not a mom and pop
(08:37):
.
That that seems.
That seems unfitting, but werun a grassroots healthcare
clinic.
And not a clinic, a movementMovement.
Okay, I like that Because ithas a moral principle behind it,
okay, and the growth it hasshown.
(09:00):
It has shown me that if alldoctors and this is a very bold,
this is a very bold, veryinflammatory remark If all
doctors today okay, 4-21-2025,all doctors say we're not going
to mess around with insurance,we're going to only do cash pay
(09:24):
if the insurances want anythingto do with us, we'll see you
tomorrow at the negotiatingtable.
Everything screeches to a haltfaster than you know, one
government tariffing anothergovernment, so you know how many
stocks would go and justcompletely crash.
(09:46):
We have that power.
It's that elephant that youknow.
There's this story about theelephant that gets the tie to
the neck and wear that elephant.
Some of us have already pulledthat chain from the floor.
I'm doing it just so otherpeople follow us and do the same
(10:10):
, and then we create anenvironment where there's
competition and there'salternatives for healthcare.
So that's the beauty of it andthat's my main message.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
That's the beauty of it and that's my main message on
how grateful they are.
Or thank you, you know, Dr Vaz,for helping my family, helping
me.
Anything you want to share,that kind of stands out.
Maybe one or two, no names, butyeah yeah, absolutely the first
(10:56):
thing.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
All my patients have my cell phone, which is
something that, again, likeother peers that have that are
doctors like you're insane.
You're going to get floodedwith calls.
I don't People get surprised.
I would say the anecdote that Isee it every day happen.
(11:18):
You know, I have a new patientthat you know I do very little
promoting.
If I do my job well, a patientbrings me two or three patients,
correct, but I have to do myjob well.
Every time I sit down with themand they're like I give them a
sticky note.
I'm OG, I'm old school, I havepresentation cards and all that
(11:38):
stuff.
I like sticky notes.
I'm like all right, here's mycell phone.
Anything happens, give me acall, shoot me a text, it's you,
your phone.
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's like are you serious?
Are you serious, dr Vag?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Are you really a doctor?
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, youcan look me up in the websites
and all that stuff.
Yeah, they have this look ofabout them.
I'm like the older peopleappreciated more and they
because they still remember 20year olds have never lived in a
world that that exists.
I saw my younger patients.
You know they have their, butlike the 60 year olds and 70
(12:18):
year olds, they're like.
They're like again I have itagain.
Okay, thank you.
They grab this thing, youolds.
They're like ah, again I haveit again.
Okay, thank you.
They grab the sticky note andthey're very grateful for it.
But if nobody crosses that lineand I've been known to be a
habitual line stepper all mylife If nobody crosses that line
, we don't make change.
And this is the line that needsto be crossed.
(12:40):
For healthcare to becomeaffordable, we don't need fancy
commercials.
We don't need fancy commercials.
We don't need, you know, thethree-floor clinics.
In some instances we do right,but that can't be the norm.
Right, we need guys that areenergetic.
You need to be bold and proud ofwhat you achieve, because being
(13:02):
a doctor, my father-in-law toldme once and he has passed since
but he's like a doctor is notonly a doctor.
Doctor is an agent of change insociety.
If you're not doing that andyou're clocking in and you're
clocking out and you're gettingyour check from from acme
hospital company and you'reshowing up to the to the
(13:24):
christmas party on your suit andyou're towing the company line
which is not bad, I would justgo ahead say say that's you,
that's you.
If you're towing the companyline, I feel for you you because
you're missing that essence,that deliciousness of medicine.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You're missing change .
You're missing the paradigmshift.
Yes, that's basically whatyou're doing.
You're creating a new paradigmshift, like industries have done
in the past.
You're revolutionizing yourindustry by, you know, looking
at where it's at, and you're avisionary and you're actually
(14:08):
taking that and making it betterfor not only other doctors if
they choose to move forward inthat realm but for your patients
, and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah, yeah, it's incredible,and we've had Spectrum News show
up a couple times in the officeand we've been blessed to be on
here in your podcast, but we'vebeen blessed to be on Joe Rogan
and Jason podcast, like theTinfoil Hat podcast, and the
American podcast.
We've graced great platformslike El Nuevo Dia.
(14:59):
That's podcast.
We've done the big, big thingswith that and expanding our
brand and our presence, whichleads to more people being taken
care of.
It's not just emboldeningourselves and growing and being
this cool kind of hippiemovement clinic.
No, it gives access to care.
(15:24):
Because people listen, they'relike oh, I didn't know I could
get seen for this, much you knowI like your stance as an
entrepreneur.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You mentioned that in the beginning.
Right, we're all businessowners.
We're working towards, you know, trying to bring our brand out
you.
So it has legs, it has movement.
So let's talk about there arelisteners here that are maybe
aspiring entrepreneurs, maybethey wanna get into your
industry in the medical field.
Maybe they are stuck right nowtrying to move that needle
(15:57):
forward in their business.
Any advice since you'rewell-versed that you can give,
or pointers that you can give toour listeners about keeping
that needle moving forward?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
yeah, we're starting it first of all, you, you have
to believe in what you do right.
If it's health care, if it'spsychology, if it's you know
construction, if it's you knowmeal prep, whatever it is it is,
you got to believe in what youdo and you got to do it well.
When you have and have thatself-belief, there's a lot of
limiting beliefs inentrepreneurship and you have to
(16:35):
be go beyond that.
And big, big, big corporationsare intimidating because when
you do something, you're there'ssomebody that is doing it right
now.
Bigger, Undoubtedly,Undoubtedly, Somebody is doing
if you want to do something,somebody is doing millions of
dollars doing something likethat or adjacent to what you
(16:57):
want to do.
Don't let that unmotivate you.
Right, I have.
You know, my clinic is a smallclinic, 1,700 square feet, five
rooms in there, Small.
We have psychology and we havehealthcare in there.
And you know, there's in thesame plaza there's clinics that
(17:24):
are double my space.
Or you know, you drive furtherdown the road and there is
there's a.
You know, I don't want tomention any brands, but there's
brand new hospitals that arethousands and thousands of
square feet and stacked from topto bottom, but when you go
(17:44):
through the door nobody can tellyou how much you're going to
pay when you're going to be seen.
It's like a magic trick.
You go to a David Copperfieldshow.
He's not going to show you howhe made that tiger disappear In
my clinic.
I'll show you right off the bat.
Hey, this is how I made mytiger disappear.
(18:04):
Come on in, Sit down.
You want a coffee?
I got you.
You have to believe in what youdo.
Whatever you do, if you haveself-belief.
The second ingredient that Iwant on this recipe is grit.
You have to have grit.
You're going to have bad days,You're going to have bad weeks,
You're going to have bad monthsand, as an entrepreneur, you're
(18:25):
going to have bad quarters.
But that can't persuade youfrom.
If it persuades you, it wasn'tyour dream.
If that persuades you, itwasn't your dream.
So you have to believe what youdo.
You have to have grit and withthose two ingredients
(18:46):
consistency, the last one.
If you're consistent, you'regoing to see the results.
Consistency, the last one, Ifyou're consistent, you're going
to see the results.
Those three you put themtogether and that's the perfect
recipe to do whatever you wantto do in the entrepreneurship
realm.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I love it.
Recipe for success.
Well, Dr Vaz, anything else youwant to kind of share with our
audience before we wrap this up?
Share with our audience beforewe wrap this up.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Absolutely.
When you're thinking abouthealthcare, I won't tell you,
come to Vascare Clinic, right?
If you get to me, I'll show youwhat healthcare is, what it's
meant to be.
But let's say you're shoppingand you're not, because I'm in
Tampa, florida.
Let's say you're not in Tampa,you're in Miami, which, by the
(19:33):
way, so many people in Miami Imean so far.
But if you're looking for ahealthcare provider, you have to
look for someone that is thatone listens to you.
Always ask for credentials,Talk to the person If the person
(19:56):
is in a computer and is notlooking at you, you know that
that's not your forever doctorand ask for price up front and
ask what happens if I can't makethat fee?
Right, do I have an alternative?
Those are the questions thatyou have to make.
(20:20):
There's far and few in between.
But there's great doctors thatare in the direct.
What I do is called directprimary care.
Slash concierge, right,concierge is a little bit
pricier and a little bit bougier, but direct primary care.
There's great doctors in thatspace that get flooded by the
(20:40):
advertisement for the bigplayers in the industry.
Yeah, correct.
So look for the hidden gems.
They're worth it and if you'rein Tampa, I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Let's talk about that .
Can you provide our listenerswith a phone number as well as a
website?
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Absolutely.
I'm old school.
I'm on 3206 Cove Bend Drive.
It's a fantastic office.
We have psychological staff inthere.
We have a licensed healthmental LMHC.
So licensed mental health.
But they say, is it coach orcounselors?
(21:23):
Licensed mental healthcounselors my wife is here too
Awesome, she's verifying that.
I don't say anything.
So we have licensed mentalhealth counselors that are
phenomenal, that handle anythingfrom pediatric cases in the
psychological realm to familycounseling, to couples therapy,
(21:49):
to individual therapy fordepression, anxiety.
We do testing forneuropsychometric diseases like
autism and ADHD.
So we have a test that DrHernandez takes care of that.
So we have those services and inthe office, of course, you'll
have old school internalmedicine with me and we do take
(22:13):
some insurances.
We're a hybrid office.
We take Cigna, aetna, medicare,humana, tricare, those.
But for the people that don'thave insurance, which are one of
the demographics I most carefor, your visits are always flat
(22:33):
.
It's $50.
You want to come in for atoothache?
You want to come in to get someantibiotics.
You want to come in because youneed a refill for your high
blood pressure medicine.
You want to come in because youhave some chest pain?
The fee is going to always beexactly the same.
So I dare you to try it and seethe difference.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Dr Vaz, it's been such a pleasure, you know, being
able for you to share yourvision.
What you're currently doing foryour patients and future
patients as well, and thebusiness model that you and your
wife have set up is very it's agood model and I just want to
thank you so much for being partof this and hopefully we can
(23:25):
have you back in the near futureagain.
Love to Thank you so much.
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