July 23, 2026 • 37 mins
Actor & Musician Da'vinchi joins the show for a raw conversation about stepping into fame and stardom. Some of his most prominent roles include All American, BMF and now, Chicago Fire. We discuss how life as an actor has bled into his personal life and impacted millions of people around him. Da'vinchi shares how some of his roles have impacted his mental health and how he serves as an ambassador for mental health organization NAMI & college foundation NCRF. Tune in for more!
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SPEAKER_04 (00:07):
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Welcome back to Can I Vibe withy'all where the vibes are
immaculate every time we hop upin here?
Welcome back.
We are in here in LA shootingsome good stuff.
If it's your first timelistening, it's your boy Kaz.
Yes, sir.
And as always, we got some goodpeople in the building.
And we got Mr.
Da Vinci in the building.
(00:27):
Welcome, welcome, welcome to theshow.
Appreciate you guys.
I'm start off from the top.
Originally a Brooklyn man,correct?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
So what would you say is likehow did that inspire your come
up being from Brooklyn, NewYork?
SPEAKER_03 (00:41):
I feel like New Yorkers have a have a drive that
no other state in America have.
You know, so I had dad going forme.
That was one battery on my back.
And then my parents beingforeigners was another battery
on my back.
So I feel like that definitelyfueled me to having this
mentality of like, yo, I couldconquer the world.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01):
And you are a Haitian background.
Haitian, yes, sir.
Okay.
Shout out to my Zoos.
Shout out to the Zoos.
Sakbase.
Yes, sir.
We live by a lot of Haitians.
We live by a lot of Zoos.
We near Miami now.
So it's Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
For sure.
That's the whole community.
SPEAKER_03 (01:15):
Sure, that's little Haiti for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17):
So we also have a Korean background.
What's it like coming from, youknow, parents, you know,
typically they're a little bitharder on us.
Um, so what was that like foryou growing up?
SPEAKER_03 (01:27):
Um, I thought it was normal.
So like I didn't realize how myparents was like tweaking a
little bit until I would hangout with my American friends.
If I go to their house and theycould just do regular shit, like
putting their feet on a coffeetable.
They sit anywhere in the house,you know.
Like we had sections where itwas like the couch still had the
plastic wrap over it.
(01:47):
And like you cannot sit there.
That was like only for guests.
Uh so that's when I startedrealizing, like, in high school,
I was like, damn, my parentswere like tripping a little bit.
It was a little wild.
And when I went to college, Iwas like, okay, like that shit
was like real rough.
But I'm glad I didn't have thatgentle parent and stuff.
No offense to anybody who havethat, but I feel like that
breeds weak humans.
(02:09):
And and I think life is mean,life is full of bullies, bills
of bullies, all different randomviolations and shit you gotta
deal with in life.
To me, that's bullies.
So if you don't I mean, you workwith people that don't like you,
you know what I'm saying?
You you're gonna deal with reallife regardless.
So if your parents reallyshelter you, not shelter you,
(02:30):
but that gentle stuff, like it'sokay that everybody gets a
participation trophy, I thinkthat's gonna destroy your mind.
And I didn't have that, and I'mso grateful for my parents for
that.
SPEAKER_04 (02:38):
I agree.
Honestly, we have a lot ofstruggles.
We sometimes growing up, you'relike, man, I hate this.
Like you've seen all theAmerican kids doing whatever,
but I I choose to be like thisin any lifetime.
I'm crazy.
So, how did you get into acting?
SPEAKER_03 (02:54):
How did I get into acting?
Um I was doing music, I wasdoing music first, and then um I
started like not really likingthe music business that much.
I was like, yo, this shit islow.
I don't know what what other wayto say it, but I was like, it
(03:14):
just felt a lot more evil, I waslike, honestly.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'll just leave it at that.
I just like it just felt like itwas it was now how how far did
you go into it?
I was like, you know, I wasmaking records and like going to
the studio, recording, andmeeting with different ARs and
managers and da da da da andworking on certain things, but
(03:35):
it was like the direction that Iwas being pushed towards, like I
didn't want to really go thatdirection.
And I was just like, bro, Idon't really like this shit.
And then I started, and I thinkI still love it, don't get me
wrong, I still write, I still doall that good stuff, but I think
the business aspect of it waskind of like pissing me off.
And then when I started acting,I was like, yo, this just feels
(03:55):
a lot better, it just feels alot more fresh.
And then that just like Istarted doing that.
I got a meeting with themanager, and then like got an
agent, and two weeks later Ijust started booking.
SPEAKER_04 (04:06):
How old were you?
SPEAKER_03 (04:07):
At the time, uh I was like 20.
SPEAKER_04 (04:10):
Was acting something you kind of just stumbled upon,
or was it like from a kid youknew you kind of want to dabble
in this, you want to go thisdirection, or it was just like
as a as a kid, like that waslike one of my wild dreams,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (04:22):
I was just like, yo, bro, I would want to like be
like Will Smith or somethinglike that.
You know what I'm saying?
But like we would watch a freshprince.
Right.
But no, actually, I neverwatched a fresh prince.
Alright.
SPEAKER_04 (04:32):
That's where most people were personally.
SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
Yeah, I never watched Fresh Prince.
It was more like um I am legend,pursuit of happiness, hitch.
Like that was I never watched afresh prince.
Still to this day, I don't knowwhy.
But like I remember I would likesay that, you know, like for fun
and stuff like that.
And me and my brothers would belike, yo, we could probably
really be like the Waynebrothers, because it was a lot
of us.
But it was one of those thingsthat we weren't dead ass.
(04:56):
But then as I got older, I waslike, yo, what if I could like
really do this?
I think maybe we just gassedourselves into thinking that
this could happen, and it kindof happened for me.
It became dead ass.
Yeah, yeah, by the grace of God,yeah.
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SPEAKER_02 (05:28):
I don't get it.
You and me, it's a minute.
I can never be the manic in theminute for the minute in the
foot, and I don't get it then.
You and I mean it's a minute.
I could never be a man I can.
SPEAKER_04 (05:44):
You you you do uh like public speaking?
SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
What for what?
Just mental health advocate.
SPEAKER_04 (05:50):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah.
And and that falls likeeverything falls under that.
SPEAKER_04 (05:54):
Can we get more into that?
SPEAKER_03 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Sure.
SPEAKER_04 (05:56):
So you're an ambassador for NCRF and NAMI.
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
NAMI, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:02):
Talk about a little bit, like how long you've been
doing it, um, you know, whatyour goals are.
SPEAKER_03 (06:05):
So um I'm an ambassador for NAMI, which is
the largest mental healthorganization in America, I
believe, and then uh uh NCRF,which is a National College
Resource Foundation founded byDr.
Sheresa Price.
NCRS, that is um, they over likeevery year, they've been helping
over hundreds and hundreds ofthousands of kids uh from
underserved communities go tocollege.
(06:25):
And I definitely felt a moralobligation to like helping and
being a part of something likethat, considering, you know,
where I come from.
I come from, I come from themud, man.
And I was like, if I ever makeit out, you know, I definitely
want to help people in any way,shape, or form that I can.
So that's that at a NAMI, whichis you know, specifically mental
(06:46):
health.
I mean, the mental health crisisin America right now is is it's
in it's insane.
I mean, the the rate that we'regetting checked in, like
clinical depression from like 13to 35.
I mean, the suicide rates uhfrom like you got teenagers, you
got kids that's just startinglife, like running off
themselves and things like that.
So I've been seeing it, and Irealized like a lot of people in
(07:08):
the black community, we don'treally understand what mental
health is.
Like I was doing an interviewand someone was like, someone
asked me, there was like, didthey start?
They was like, well, Da Vinci'sa big mental health advocate,
and they started asking someoneelse, like, so how's your mental
health?
And then this one dude, black,he was just like, um, well, I
don't have mental health, andlike I'm sorry for what DaVinci
goes through and I hopeeverything goes good.
(07:28):
And I was like, wait, time out,pause.
I was like, if you don't havemental health, you're dead,
buddy.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like saying I don't havephysical health.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (07:35):
But you could just see like our community is like,
damn, like we can't even computewhat that even means.
Mental health is just regulatingyour social, emotional,
physiological well-being, justso when life gets hard, when the
inevitable happens, which areproblems, you're able to deal
with it.
But it's like when you'reraising a child to not have
mental fortitude, whether thatbe gentle parenting, whether
(07:55):
that be, you know, promotingsome negative, so much
negativity in that child'senvironment to where now that
child goes on.
I can go on and on.
No, exactly.
That's what we're here for.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, because I can really go onand on.
I know this is like to thescience.
SPEAKER_04 (08:09):
How is it for you?
And I I feel like I could relateto this a lot, because again, we
come from Caribbean background.
So um, coming from a Haitianbackground, I have a lot a lot
of Haitian friends that I'mclose with.
How is that with you coming froma Haitian household and
integrating mental health fromthat?
Like, at what point did you kindof click for you like this is
(08:30):
something that's serious, that'sreal?
Because I don't know what you'regonna tell me, but I guarantee
your parents probably didn'tinstill that in you.
SPEAKER_03 (08:36):
Yeah, my parents have no clue.
They like to them, I am justsaying a new fancy American
word.
SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
You know, and but they still feel that way, and
yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (08:49):
They don't really get it.
Like it, and it's like, but Idon't fault them because they
were raised in a differentgeneration.
Like they were like, we need tomeet the basic needs of your
survival.
That is food, water, shelter.
Yeah, got that, that'severything.
My job is done, and y'all go toschool.
You have a roof over your head,yeah, good.
(09:10):
So, off of their backs and theirblood, sweat, and tears, now we
have the luxury to think on on apsychological level.
But for such a long period oftime in America, black people
didn't even have that luxury.
SPEAKER_06 (09:20):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (09:20):
We were busy being workhorses.
So we like I we come from that.
So, so I don't take it personal.
I just look at them like withnothing but love and I just
welcome them with open arms.
But there's a lot ofconversations I can't have.
No, they're from Haiti.
SPEAKER_04 (09:34):
Oh, wow, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (09:35):
No, they're off the boat, the salt water.
Like right now, they're goingcrazy that Haiti lost.
Like, them niggas is Haitian.
Like, like they call me Tblonde, like I'm white.
I'm a little white boy.
You speak Creole too?
Yeah, I speak Creole floor.
Okay, yeah, yeah, but I'm stilla white boy to them.
I talk about shit like mentalhealth, they're like, this nigga
soft.
SPEAKER_04 (09:52):
Nah, but not that that's real because again, we we
all kind of grew up with a toughskin, right?
Um, especially coming from Haitior Brooklyn or wherever.
So um it's it is a bit of apandemic now, um, and it's
serious.
And now we have so manydistractions.
Like you said, some kids startas early as like 13 and they're
(10:12):
having mental health issues.
Right.
Like we have they have this infront of them now, so it's it's
different.
SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (10:18):
Have there been any roles that you've learned from,
like kind of impacted yourpersonal life?
SPEAKER_03 (10:22):
Yeah, I would say every role.
Every role, like for sure.
Like, I think any role that anartist plays, like, if you're
really playing that character,it for sure impacts you.
I would say every project that Iplayed impacted me for sure.
Cause I I put myself in acharacter position, like, dang,
I wonder if I was really likethis.
(10:43):
And then yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (10:44):
Do you have a specific role?
SPEAKER_03 (10:45):
This firefighter role, actually.
Um, that and this project is notout yet.
So I don't really know how muchI could talk about it.
But um this role is probably themost intriguing so far, because
I'd never really understood whatthe life of a firefighter is
like.
Right?
Like I thought it was just likeputting out fires for real, but
now societies are so well builtthat there's not a lot of fires
(11:08):
like that.
So most firefighters, well, allfirefighters now are like
paramedics and EMTs.
So they're going to likedomestic violence calls, they're
going to like mental healthcalls, they're going to like
cardiac arrest.
They're just like, if if youfall and you can't get up, like
they're knocking on the door.
They're like, yo, let's pickyour ass.
Like they're they're doing somany things outside.
SPEAKER_04 (11:28):
So are they doing more of the job that police
officers and EMTs might do?
SPEAKER_03 (11:33):
Yeah, they're they're really they're EMTs for
sure.
They're for sure that.
Like it's to the point thathospitals are so backed up, you
know, most firefighters inAmerica, to where it's like
you're not just fighting fireanymore at all.
SPEAKER_04 (11:46):
So have you ever had a role that affected your mental
health?
SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
I would say BMF.
SPEAKER_04 (11:50):
How so?
SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
Well, I mean, every every project did for sure, but
I would say BMF probably made mea little more paranoid.
Because it opened a can thatlike I like closed.
You know, coming from where wecome from, sometimes it's like,
bro, um, sometimes I don't wantto deal with that shit.
Like, I don't I don't watchgangster shows.
(12:12):
I don't watch no gangster show,I don't watch gangster movies, I
don't really watch nothing likethat.
Cause I'm like, bro, it's likewhen you got brothers and
cousins that got affected bythat, and you see how it affects
your life, I'm like, why am Igonna reopen something that just
gonna, you know what I'm saying?
Piss me off.
But BMF, yeah, because I meanthe attention that you'll get
from outside, it's like all theall American, all the other
projects, it's like this ishappy go lucky football loving
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people, middle American whitepeople, like, hey, that's but
like BMF, it's like you get likeniggas sizing you up, and really
you think they're sizing you up,but they want to say what's up,
they just don't know how to sayhi and greet properly.
So it's a real like yeah, yeah.
So, so and it's just likesometimes they so like, and
they'll be like, yo, I don'tknow how to say what up to this
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nigga, but I want to say what upand get it for a picture.
But they just their ego, theythey in this contemplating zone
with themselves, and I'll belike, tell this thing to go, and
they he just want a picture.
But it looked crazy though,sometimes it's like like it's
like yo, bro, it's 12 a.m.
at night, like I'm doingsomething, you know what I'm
saying?
Or like some gangsters wouldcome up to me and start telling
me their hood stories and shit.
I'm like, bro, you keep that toyourself.
(13:16):
Like start telling me how theywere selling drugs and how they
worked with meat and tea.
And then I'm like, yo, bro, bro,bro, bro.
SPEAKER_04 (13:21):
Like so that that's just what they associate you as.
Like they kind of almost likelike we were talking about if
you were making music before,they associate that like that's
how you're living your life.
SPEAKER_03 (13:32):
In the in a sense, but but no, it's more like it's
more like they look at me like atherapist in a weird sense,
like, okay, you did thischaracter so well that like I
could open up about my criminalactivities.
But they know me, Da Vinci,didn't like I'm not promoting
that.
So, like, as they're talking tome, then they'll like realize,
(13:52):
like, oh you know what, yo,you're not even that nigga for
real.
Like, I mean, like, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So it's kind of one of thosethings to where they just feel
comfortable because they likethey they never want to therapy.
So it's just like, yo, let metalk to this nigga that's
playing this, and and it, andit's cool, but they don't they
don't think that's me, but itjust I guess I just allow I give
them a space to just unload andI just be like, all right, bro.
SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Like, do you do you have the answers for them, or
you just kind of like let themspeak?
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Yeah, I be telling them how to avoid the cops and
shit.
I was like, look, if you'regonna move a bird, you gotta
take this street.
Nah, um, nah, I just be reallylistening, and I just be like,
oh wow.
I'm like, yo, that's crazy.
Damn, that's tough.
Oh, you made it out.
Oh, you stirred 30.
Once I get the third damn,that's crazy.
Yeah, it's uh it's like that.
(14:36):
I just given them now.
They gonna know if they watchedit.
They're like, oh, that nigga'splaying me.
SPEAKER_04 (14:43):
Do you have a favorite role that you did?
SPEAKER_03 (14:46):
I would probably say like I think all American.
Only because like that was sothat's just nostalgic.
And it was it was so fun.
Like I got to play footballevery day on set, you know?
And I think I think that was forsure just and and I I guess it
was a part during Hollywood,like when everything shut down,
it was a pandemic, the world wasending.
(15:06):
So I just it's so many memoriesthat that's with that, that I
think that's why it is.
But honestly, it's really all ofthem.
I'll tell you one that I hate.
No, I'm playing.
I can't say that.
I can't say that.
SPEAKER_04 (15:18):
You sure you sure?
That'll that'll be the bonus thebonus content.
SPEAKER_03 (15:25):
Right, right, right.
After dark.
SPEAKER_04 (15:27):
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You're picking which one youcould uh expand on it a little
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Well, first one, we'll go thisor that, fresh haircut or a
fresh pair of kicks?
SPEAKER_03 (15:47):
Haircut.
SPEAKER_04 (15:48):
Why so?
Because, well, you on cameratoo.
SPEAKER_03 (15:50):
So uh, I mean, like, I feel like for sneakers, like
now at this point in my life, Idon't need a fresh pair of
sneakers.
Like, I could buy any shoe Iwant.
You know what I'm saying?
I would rather be well groomedat this point.
SPEAKER_04 (16:03):
Yeah, space car gotta be right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
So I don't look homeless.
Okay.
I mean, I can't really say thatin LA, because that isn't that a
derogatory term now.
Oh shit.
We'll cut you out.
We'll cut you out.
I'll not homeless, um house,apartmentless, houseless.
SPEAKER_05 (16:20):
No, it's something else.
SPEAKER_03 (16:22):
Unkept.
SPEAKER_05 (16:23):
What's the what's the politically correct term if
you're homeless here?
unknown (16:27):
Homeless?
SPEAKER_04 (16:27):
Yeah.
Unhoused.
Unhoused.
Oh, I didn't even know it was aterm for that.
Yeah, you can't say homeless.
SPEAKER_03 (16:33):
Yeah, you can't you can't say homeless.
SPEAKER_04 (16:34):
Oh, see, I'm glad I would have got canceled.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
Nah, but y'all good.
Y'all can say it though.
SPEAKER_04 (16:42):
In Florida, yeah, maybe, not here.
Yeah, it's it's different forus.
SPEAKER_03 (16:45):
But like, that's good for y'all ratings, though,
no.
If y'all said that, people wouldtalk about it.
Because I feel like podcastersare like comedians in a sense.
Like, y'all can say anything.
SPEAKER_04 (16:54):
Are we should we test it out?
No, I'm just playing.
SPEAKER_03 (16:56):
And I'm sure Birdman and Slim wouldn't have a
problem.
They probably don't give a damn.
They'll be like, nigga, what?
Like, that's they said worse.
SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
It is different here, though.
It's like all right, while we'reon the topic, would you go uh LA
or New York?
SPEAKER_03 (17:13):
LA or New York?
Dang, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_04 (17:20):
New York.
For what reason?
SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Um, I think it's easier to find real people in
New York City.
Yeah.
I could see that.
No disrespect.
I don't live here, so I heard ofme.
Not anybody who's watching us.
No, no disrespect.
SPEAKER_04 (17:37):
Don't get canceled by electricity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, man, I'm in Georgia.
I'm good.
Right, right.
Let's go uh vacation withfriends or a solo trip?
Vacation with friends.
Okay.
I was gonna ask you, but I thinkI know your answer.
SPEAKER_05 (17:54):
Let's go vacation or friends.
SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
Is it vacation?
SPEAKER_05 (17:58):
Vacation.
Vacation of friends?
SPEAKER_03 (18:00):
No, vacation, vacation and vacation with
friends, right?
SPEAKER_05 (18:03):
Vacation with friends.
SPEAKER_03 (18:04):
Okay, like boot up.
Oh, a vacation or vacation withfriends.
Like they're couples.
SPEAKER_05 (18:10):
Sure, there you go.
Huh?
Vacation or brocation?
Boys' trip.
Dang, I guess that depicts.
SPEAKER_03 (18:15):
I really think that depends.
It depends on how I'm feeling.
unknown (18:19):
Uh okay.
SPEAKER_03 (18:19):
Like, yeah, that that really does.
I think that's 50-50.
SPEAKER_04 (18:23):
I agree.
I agree.
Because sometimes, like, youwant that intimacy, but other
times you'll be like, you know,I see my boys.
SPEAKER_03 (18:30):
Nah, exactly, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (18:33):
Give me the boy.
Every time.
SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
Every time.
We can go wherever.
Oh, he's on some freaky time.
Hold on, cuz I I mean you justwant to chill with the homies
all day.
Damn, I feel sorry for her.
That is crazy.
Nigga told on this so wow.
He didn't even want to play atall.
SPEAKER_05 (18:53):
All my homies live on different parts of the
country.
We can only link every now andthen.
SPEAKER_04 (18:57):
Oh, yeah, that's even worse.
All right.
Would you rather have your oldtweets exposed or your old DMs?
SPEAKER_03 (19:05):
Tweets, tweets for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (19:07):
That's the answer.
Yeah, I'm going.
SPEAKER_03 (19:08):
I feel like I don't think I ever tweeted nothing
crazy.
I mean, I've never DM anythingcrazy too.
Because nowadays it's like youjust never know.
SPEAKER_04 (19:14):
But I feel like I'm getting canceled either way.
Either way, I'm sure.
What's the hill that you'rewilling to die on?
SPEAKER_03 (19:22):
Dang, yo, they're all, bro, they're all deep.
SPEAKER_04 (19:24):
You can start deep as you want.
SPEAKER_03 (19:25):
A hill that I'm willing to die on.
Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn.
Um I think, I mean, every womanshould, if you marry, I think
you should have your man's lastname.
SPEAKER_04 (19:35):
Oh, that's we got some we got some ladies in here.
SPEAKER_03 (19:38):
I would say that for sure.
SPEAKER_05 (19:40):
I like that.
SPEAKER_04 (19:42):
I agree with it, because then if you don't, it's
kind of like when I see thedouble last name, it's kind of
confusing.
SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (19:49):
But someone I haven't met many people that are
like that, but I have, I don'tknow.
There's a woman that we're.
She definitely got something.
No, yeah, you feel a way aboutthat.
No, actually, both.
Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
You Jamaican.
SPEAKER_03 (20:04):
So now y'all.
unknown (20:04):
He's Haitian.
SPEAKER_03 (20:05):
Yeah, so we neighbors.
Oh, yeah.
Well, like we heard of the nextone.
SPEAKER_04 (20:09):
We're gonna debunk this myth right now where they
say uh Haitian men tend to havemany families.
SPEAKER_03 (20:16):
Many families?
SPEAKER_04 (20:17):
I'm sure you've heard that.
Like multiple wives.
SPEAKER_03 (20:20):
Oh, I feel like that's that's like that's man,
period, though.
I don't know why.
We were talking about that.
I don't know why Haitians getthe like I feel that's that's
everyone.
SPEAKER_04 (20:29):
It might be that that island.
SPEAKER_03 (20:30):
Baby mama culture in America, like what?
Like we're like America is theflagship of like, like what
celebrity you know that don'thave like 30 baby mamas?
I feel like that's every manthough.
I feel like that was that was meanswering the question.
SPEAKER_04 (20:44):
Every man except us.
SPEAKER_03 (20:45):
Yeah, I feel like, but but I also, also, also, I
don't think, I don't okay.
I don't think if a person choseto have multiple wives, I don't
think there's nothing wrong withthat.
Like Neo or whatever, like whatis it like?
I don't think there's nothingwrong with that.
He's open about it, Atoms.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (21:03):
So do you separate the artist from the art, like a
situation like that versus theirmusic?
SPEAKER_03 (21:08):
Yeah, especially Neo situation, hell yeah.
Like, I mean, like, I agree withyou.
Yeah, yeah, that's like, andlike when I'm listening to the
songs, if I'm like in the houseand I'm cleaning and I'm
listening to like what's thatone Neo song?
I mean, he's that nigga withhim.
I can't even think of it rightnow.
But let's say So Sick, So Sick ALove Song, right?
SPEAKER_04 (21:26):
So sick.
SPEAKER_03 (21:27):
Right.
Do do do like and I'm like cleanthe house, I'm not thinking
about his personal life.
I'm zoning out.
Like if he have like 30felonies, right?
Like, I that's not why I put thesong on.
SPEAKER_04 (21:39):
Now, would you say women listen to music on a more
emotional level?
SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
I think if the artists have done something to
woman that triggers something, Ithink the woman ain't gonna want
to listen out.
SPEAKER_05 (21:50):
So is there I I'm I'm with you on the separating
the artist from the person.
Is there any limit that or likethreshold that you're like, yo?
SPEAKER_04 (22:00):
This man just did too much that like I can't
listen to his music no more.
SPEAKER_05 (22:04):
I'm sure you can think of a time.
SPEAKER_03 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (22:07):
I'm getting told to ask this question.
SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
No, no, no, for sure.
Like, I think I think if it'sone of some like he went on an
interview and he was like, yo,when I made this album, I was
like, I don't know, withLucifer, and we were like, let's
make music to da da da album.
Oh hell no.
SPEAKER_04 (22:25):
What if they peed on somebody?
Here we go.
SPEAKER_03 (22:28):
Well, I think I was too young to be aware of that
and uh that story.
So when I hear that story thatyou're talking about, I don't
really it's almost like it'salmost like it no like people
went through serious stuff and Iget that, but I never really did
(22:49):
the research on that.
Like I never watched any of thedocumentaries, I never watched
anything.
So all I really know him for isa couple songs.
SPEAKER_04 (22:57):
No matter what happened, I can't get those
lyrics and those those beats outof my head.
Do you have a guilty pleasure?
SPEAKER_03 (23:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Um I ain't gonna lie, likesometimes we would sit down in
the crib and like someone wouldput on Pop the Balloon and I'll
(23:26):
watch that shit.
And I'm not gonna lie.
At first I was just like, whatis going on?
But that shit is funny.
I respect that.
I'm not gonna lie, like Pop theBalloon is probably it.
Oh, that's a good good.
I've never watched a realityshow before in my life, but just
(23:47):
seeing what's out there in theworld, like men and women are
cooked.
SPEAKER_04 (23:51):
Oh man.
First of all, I start with theintro.
SPEAKER_03 (23:54):
I'm like, oh letter is funny as hell.
SPEAKER_04 (24:00):
I didn't expect you to say that.
SPEAKER_03 (24:02):
Yeah, honestly, that that's why I was laughing.
I was like, yo, people's notgonna believe it.
SPEAKER_04 (24:05):
I kind of want to go back.
I haven't seen all of them, butI've seen all of them too now.
Yeah, I'm not locked in likethat, but I've seen a few.
SPEAKER_03 (24:12):
I'm like, yeah, I've seen I've seen a few, like a
handful.
SPEAKER_04 (24:14):
It's a funny world, and it is real life, too.
SPEAKER_03 (24:16):
Exactly.
And and like, yeah, it and it'sit's kind of sad too, though.
Like sometimes I'll be watchingstuff, I'm like, damn, people
really think like this.
SPEAKER_04 (24:23):
This is how big it is now.
SPEAKER_03 (24:24):
It's like crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (24:26):
Uh anything you want to share, promote?
SPEAKER_03 (24:29):
Um, I do want to know more about the Neo thing.
SPEAKER_04 (24:34):
I would I would say Should we hand you a mic?
That mic work?
I would I would say that work?
unknown (24:38):
I'm a producer.
SPEAKER_04 (24:39):
I am not the same.
No, now you now you don't wantto the producer.
SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
Yeah, yeah, I just and I want to hear what you
think about the last name thing.
I guess crazy.
I don't even want to promoteanything.
I just really want to like Ijust want to see what they think
about.
Yeah, no, facts.
SPEAKER_00 (24:57):
Personally, I think um everyone's out of their
minds.
I think social media has fuckedup everything, and everyone
thinks they have all theseoptions that they don't.
So, like we weren't supposed tobe um exposed to this many
people in our lives at all ashuman beings, and it started and
we all witnessed it happen, andit's weird.
(25:20):
Um everyone's faking it becauseeveryone feels like they have
something to prove becauseeverything is very performative
and it's not real.
So, like, I I have faith on it'sjust someone I meet in person
versus I've seen people um meetonline or like Instagram or
Hinge, and sure, like that'scool, but like it's just way
(25:43):
harder because everyone valuessocial media versus interactions
in person more.
That's what I'll say.
SPEAKER_03 (25:52):
So you so you feel like the biggest thing is that
men because they have so manyoptions.
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
I think women too though.
SPEAKER_03 (25:59):
I I I but I think we have like way more options
though.
SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
Like real potential candidates.
I feel like I think it dependson the type of man too.
Yeah, but I but I feel like Ifeel like there's more women
than men.
There's more belly betterquality women than men.
So you guys have like six niggasyou I can choose from.
We have a million women that wecan choose from.
SPEAKER_04 (26:19):
I agree with that.
SPEAKER_03 (26:20):
And counting.
SPEAKER_04 (26:21):
I also feel like we're we are not us, but men as
a whore, not as picky.
We tend to be a little easy.
Like you said, though, goingback to your earlier point when
we first started, I feel like alot of weak men were raised in
this past generation, and it'sshowing, and it goes into your
(26:42):
point, Maya, about social mediaand getting exposed to all these
different people and all thesedifferent women.
It's like you add that with aweak foundation, a weak
household, a weak upbringing.
A lot of people grew up withoutfathers in the household,
without father figures in thehousehold.
We're consuming this bullshitand this bullshit here.
(27:02):
And then on top of that, youthink you have a million options
to all these different women,and it's like no fault to the
women, but they're perceiving,they're they're they're showing
this image online that's notreal, and it's like a weak man's
gonna fall for any of that.
Like you followed by lust by oh,she's got a big ass, and she's
(27:23):
got this, and she's got that,and it's just like like you
said, to your point, I I justthink the the the pool of men is
just very weak for women.
Yeah, just watch Pop the Balloonfor real.
SPEAKER_03 (27:37):
Yeah, no, that that that sucks.
So you feel like there's likeno, none, nothing left for you
guys.
SPEAKER_00 (27:42):
I wouldn't say nothing because you know,
everything works out the wayit's supposed to, but like it's
just not um not giving for yourmoney.
It's not like just like a funexercise.
SPEAKER_03 (27:59):
So, so like, so like so and people that's deciding to
like yo, you know what?
Let's just the three of us datethis one man, like Neo.
No, no, I'm just saying though,like you never like do you feel
like they they're on tosomething maybe?
Because the amount of womenversus men that I'm gonna No no
no I don't know I'm just gonnabe the camera No, not at all.
(28:23):
No, no, no, no, I'm not, I'mnot, but I'm just like I'm just
asking this because I think thisis something to really like
think about, kind of, no?
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
It's everyone's preference.
Like, if that's what they wantto do, then like, yeah, they're
on to that if they like that, orjust stay single.
But if they want to do that,then they can, you know what I'm
saying?
Facts, facts, so it's likethey're like making like it's
actually probably easier forthem if that's something they
want to do.
It's pretty easy.
Of course, a man would love tohave uh three girlfriends if he
can afford it.
I would not love to have it.
SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
That's a lot of work.
I would not love to have that.
To answer your question, no, Iwould not want to have that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
Yeah, say that, say that.
But give it a preference.
I wasn't part of this.
My voice is really gone.
Say it again, say again.
Y'all saying y'all don't wantthree girlfriends, but y'all do
it anyway behind closed doors.
You might as well put it in theopen meeting.
SPEAKER_03 (29:12):
There's levels to it.
Nah, bro, you're preaching rightnow, bro.
That's a real bro, that's a realbutt with you.
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
I'm from huh?
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
You from Brooklyn?
SPEAKER_01 (29:21):
No, I'm from Jersey, but I lived in Brooklyn.
SPEAKER_03 (29:22):
Jersey?
Okay, yeah, yeah.
So you're close enough.
See, that's a rumor right there,yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
So they doing it right now.
I don't think he's wrong becauseyou're open about it.
And they're all in agreement.
I'd rather a man be like, yo,I'm I'm dating two other people.
And be like, okay, you're eithera dub or I'm gonna join.
That's what they did.
SPEAKER_04 (29:40):
I'm gonna be real with you.
I don't think that men, evenlike habitual cheaters, I don't
think that they truly want threegirlfriends.
I don't think the majority ofmen, I think a lot of men are
led by lust and like what theysee in social media, and you
have a million girls onInstagram that you can go, oh,
this girl got this, and the girlyou met and fell in love with
(30:02):
might not be the girl with thefattest ass or the nicest face.
And you just see, okay, let mego cheat or let me hop on hinge
or let me hop on this side andjust go meet up with this girl.
Because men be in a relationshipthat most men truly, I don't
know, maybe maybe we're in theminority.
I think that most men trulyvalue like a family, like having
a partner building something.
SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
Like most men really go like that?
For sure.
The men I know and the men thatI'm very playing.
My love language physical touch.
What's your love language ifthey don't want to be like?
Quality time.
What's your love?
That's interesting.
What's your love language on thesituation?
SPEAKER_03 (30:37):
Um what are the options?
SPEAKER_01 (30:39):
Quality touch, physical touch, access service,
gifts, and I'm missing one.
SPEAKER_04 (30:44):
And words of affirmation.
SPEAKER_01 (30:45):
Words of affirmation.
SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
I'll probably say access services and like no, no,
like physical.
I mean, I don't know.
All of them.
SPEAKER_06 (30:52):
What do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_05 (30:54):
Like, if I'm with my partner.
If I'm like, he's really hanginghimself.
SPEAKER_03 (31:00):
Niggas wild.
SPEAKER_04 (31:04):
If I'm with my partner, like we gotta be
touching.
Like, like I have to touch you.
Like, I don't care if you'reright here, like but you touch
one person at a time.
Yes, bro.
But I know, like, I know menthat struggle with lust and
struggle with like needing, andI feel like as men, we're
naturally like hunters.
We naturally like want to go outthere and kill, and that's just
(31:27):
we've been so like we grew upwith our father in our lives.
Like, we grew up like that'slike how many girls can you get?
Like, yo, this girl wants you,the girl.
Like, you've been taught from ayoung age, like what it's just a
number.
What can you kill?
Eat what you kill.
And it's like, so I feel like alot of men, and you add the
(31:48):
social media aspect into that,it's like there's a lot of stuff
to look at, a lot of eye candy.
How many can I kill?
Yeah, social media fucked it.
The the fucking porn addictionin this country is crazy.
Like, I think that's lust.
I don't think men truly want,oh, I want three different
wives.
I want three different who hasthe mental capacity to do with
three women at one time.
(32:08):
Let's be for real.
SPEAKER_03 (32:09):
I mean, people been living that way way longer than
they've been the monogamous.
Like, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04 (32:15):
That must be.
SPEAKER_03 (32:16):
This is before Haiti was even a country.
Like, I'm talking like waybefore.
SPEAKER_04 (32:21):
I do think there was a lot of a lot of like monogamy
is relatively new.
SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
Correct.
Like humanity.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why like America pushingthis, like, niggas in America
aren't monogamous.
Like, just because you can'tmarry multiple women and that's
illegal, but it should beillegal to have multiple baby
mamas too.
But that's not the case.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, the country, thecountry is capped.
It's like it's not it's notreally monogamous.
(32:46):
And as she was saying, like, Imean, I'm not gonna let me chill
before people think I'm gonnabe.
I'm just saying, like, it's justlike when I think, I think what
what you were saying is from a,and I don't mean this like a uh
a disrespectful way, I thinkit's from a vacuum.
Because by and large, if youlook at the history of humanity,
(33:07):
they've been polygamous.
SPEAKER_05 (33:08):
Correct.
SPEAKER_03 (33:09):
So to say like psychologically, like no man
would want that, it's kind oflike is your girl listening
right now?
That's what you're saying is.
No, I'm like, I'm gonna saywhatever I want.
I'm gonna say that.
You know, and and it's likebecause because I just don't
think that's like that's why Imean people were just cheating
and wilding left and right.
SPEAKER_05 (33:27):
So if it was socially acceptable, would you
be open to multiple women at onetime?
SPEAKER_04 (33:36):
Because like you said, that's it.
So I think it's because Ipersonally wouldn't want that.
Even if I could have it, Iwouldn't want that.
It depends on the man, itdepends on preference.
No, that's what I'm saying, yourpersonal preference.
SPEAKER_03 (33:46):
I don't know.
I I it just it it it depends.
But but and I also don't thinkthough, one thing as well, like
when people talk about polygamy,it's not this is my girlfriend,
this is my girlfriend, this ismy girlfriend.
It's like one person is likeromantic.
It's an institutional marriage,right?
So someone could just be marriedinto the family and it has
nothing to do with sex, you justmake the greatest pancakes.
(34:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Or this person's a familyaccountant, and it's like a it's
like a protection thing thatthis person is protected under
the umbrella of like the family,the bloodline.
So it's not necessarily likefrom this like oh, having sex,
humping perspective that mostpeople think it is, you know
what I'm saying?
I mean, don't get me wrong, somepeople wild out and just do
anything, but I don't think it'slike from that.
(34:29):
Like I've I've studied this inschool, so it's like, and I've
learned like I'm like, oh shit,it's not what we think it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, even though some people,obviously that's the case, some
people have islands and theywild out, but I just don't
think, like, for men being Idon't know.
SPEAKER_04 (34:44):
I know I think the same, because I think, like, for
example, women could be like, Iwant this man for money, I want
this man for dick, I want thisman for comfort and good
conversations.
SPEAKER_03 (34:53):
Exactly, they got a whole roster and they not
fucking all of them, theyfucking just one.
SPEAKER_04 (34:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, I wouldn't want threedifferent women I'm fucking at
the same time.
Cause but it might be like, allright, this woman, like, she's
foot really fun to go on dateswith.
Right.
Or this one is your secretary.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (35:10):
Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (35:11):
So I mean, I get it.
I mean, personally, I can't dothat just because it's too much
for me, but I see why people dothat.
Because I think we we think it'sjust you know, sexual, but I
mean Is it something you wouldbe you would be interested?
SPEAKER_05 (35:23):
Something you would do if you went back to it.
SPEAKER_03 (35:26):
No, I mean, no, I mean, I don't I don't know.
I would have to talk to likelike my shorty, like whoever my
shorty is at the time, if itbecomes legalized, then I'll be
like, yo, what you think?
Because I don't think you shoulddo it unless like everybody's
on, you know, gang.
Because then if you're doing itand without organizing, you're
just gonna church.
SPEAKER_04 (35:44):
Especially for a man, it depends like kind of
where you are.
Because, you know, as a man,like you gotta have the finances
too if you balance in three tofour different women.
Facts.
So you can't be a broke boy outhere, but oh yeah, I'm just
gonna have four.
SPEAKER_03 (35:57):
And they still doing it.
SPEAKER_04 (35:58):
They doing it.
SPEAKER_03 (35:59):
I know, I know, and they still doing it on a sixty
thousand dollar salary, likeit's crazy.
No disrespect, no disrespect.
But I know I know people thatare.
SPEAKER_04 (36:08):
They doing it on 20.
SPEAKER_03 (36:09):
Yeah, I know the nigga with no job.
SPEAKER_04 (36:11):
Like, no facts.
It's wow.
It sounds like she's gonna havesome stuff to say.
SPEAKER_03 (36:17):
No, she got a lot to say.
I really want to hear what yougot to say right now.
Like, you got something to say.
SPEAKER_04 (36:24):
All right.
Uh, I'll ask you again if youwant to share, promote anything.
SPEAKER_03 (36:28):
Um, nah, I'm I'm good, man.
I'm I'm chilling.
Life is good, God is good.
I would just tell everybody keepGod first.
SPEAKER_04 (36:34):
Amen.
SPEAKER_03 (36:34):
Read, read your Bible, educate yourself, and
just just think of yourselfless.
Learn about something.
SPEAKER_04 (36:41):
Like I said, I appreciate you coming on,
appreciate the vibes.
Uh, wishing you all the best forsure.
Appreciate that.
Uh, you know, just appreciatethe good conversation.
Thank you for listening.
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Shout out LA, we're gonna have agood weekend.
(37:03):
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Feeling good, living better.
Much love, appreciate y'all.
You know what I'm saying?
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Welcome back to Can I Vibe withy'all where the vibes are
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We are in here in LA shootingsome good stuff.
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Yes, sir.
And as always, we got some goodpeople in the building.
And we got Mr.
Da Vinci in the building.
(00:27):
Welcome, welcome, welcome to theshow.
Appreciate you guys.
I'm start off from the top.
Originally a Brooklyn man,correct?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
So what would you say is likehow did that inspire your come
up being from Brooklyn, NewYork?
SPEAKER_03 (00:41):
I feel like New Yorkers have a have a drive that
no other state in America have.
You know, so I had dad going forme.
That was one battery on my back.
And then my parents beingforeigners was another battery
on my back.
So I feel like that definitelyfueled me to having this
mentality of like, yo, I couldconquer the world.
SPEAKER_04 (01:01):
And you are a Haitian background.
Haitian, yes, sir.
Okay.
Shout out to my Zoos.
Shout out to the Zoos.
Sakbase.
Yes, sir.
We live by a lot of Haitians.
We live by a lot of Zoos.
We near Miami now.
So it's Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
For sure.
That's the whole community.
SPEAKER_03 (01:15):
Sure, that's little Haiti for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (01:17):
So we also have a Korean background.
What's it like coming from, youknow, parents, you know,
typically they're a little bitharder on us.
Um, so what was that like foryou growing up?
SPEAKER_03 (01:27):
Um, I thought it was normal.
So like I didn't realize how myparents was like tweaking a
little bit until I would hangout with my American friends.
If I go to their house and theycould just do regular shit, like
putting their feet on a coffeetable.
They sit anywhere in the house,you know.
Like we had sections where itwas like the couch still had the
plastic wrap over it.
(01:47):
And like you cannot sit there.
That was like only for guests.
Uh so that's when I startedrealizing, like, in high school,
I was like, damn, my parentswere like tripping a little bit.
It was a little wild.
And when I went to college, Iwas like, okay, like that shit
was like real rough.
But I'm glad I didn't have thatgentle parent and stuff.
No offense to anybody who havethat, but I feel like that
breeds weak humans.
(02:09):
And and I think life is mean,life is full of bullies, bills
of bullies, all different randomviolations and shit you gotta
deal with in life.
To me, that's bullies.
So if you don't I mean, you workwith people that don't like you,
you know what I'm saying?
You you're gonna deal with reallife regardless.
So if your parents reallyshelter you, not shelter you,
(02:30):
but that gentle stuff, like it'sokay that everybody gets a
participation trophy, I thinkthat's gonna destroy your mind.
And I didn't have that, and I'mso grateful for my parents for
that.
SPEAKER_04 (02:38):
I agree.
Honestly, we have a lot ofstruggles.
We sometimes growing up, you'relike, man, I hate this.
Like you've seen all theAmerican kids doing whatever,
but I I choose to be like thisin any lifetime.
I'm crazy.
So, how did you get into acting?
SPEAKER_03 (02:54):
How did I get into acting?
Um I was doing music, I wasdoing music first, and then um I
started like not really likingthe music business that much.
I was like, yo, this shit islow.
I don't know what what other wayto say it, but I was like, it
(03:14):
just felt a lot more evil, I waslike, honestly.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'll just leave it at that.
I just like it just felt like itwas it was now how how far did
you go into it?
I was like, you know, I wasmaking records and like going to
the studio, recording, andmeeting with different ARs and
managers and da da da da andworking on certain things, but
(03:35):
it was like the direction that Iwas being pushed towards, like I
didn't want to really go thatdirection.
And I was just like, bro, Idon't really like this shit.
And then I started, and I thinkI still love it, don't get me
wrong, I still write, I still doall that good stuff, but I think
the business aspect of it waskind of like pissing me off.
And then when I started acting,I was like, yo, this just feels
(03:55):
a lot better, it just feels alot more fresh.
And then that just like Istarted doing that.
I got a meeting with themanager, and then like got an
agent, and two weeks later Ijust started booking.
SPEAKER_04 (04:06):
How old were you?
SPEAKER_03 (04:07):
At the time, uh I was like 20.
SPEAKER_04 (04:10):
Was acting something you kind of just stumbled upon,
or was it like from a kid youknew you kind of want to dabble
in this, you want to go thisdirection, or it was just like
as a as a kid, like that waslike one of my wild dreams,
right?
SPEAKER_03 (04:22):
I was just like, yo, bro, I would want to like be
like Will Smith or somethinglike that.
You know what I'm saying?
But like we would watch a freshprince.
Right.
But no, actually, I neverwatched a fresh prince.
Alright.
SPEAKER_04 (04:32):
That's where most people were personally.
SPEAKER_03 (04:33):
Yeah, I never watched Fresh Prince.
It was more like um I am legend,pursuit of happiness, hitch.
Like that was I never watched afresh prince.
Still to this day, I don't knowwhy.
But like I remember I would likesay that, you know, like for fun
and stuff like that.
And me and my brothers would belike, yo, we could probably
really be like the Waynebrothers, because it was a lot
of us.
But it was one of those thingsthat we weren't dead ass.
(04:56):
But then as I got older, I waslike, yo, what if I could like
really do this?
I think maybe we just gassedourselves into thinking that
this could happen, and it kindof happened for me.
It became dead ass.
Yeah, yeah, by the grace of God,yeah.
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SPEAKER_02 (05:28):
I don't get it.
You and me, it's a minute.
I can never be the manic in theminute for the minute in the
foot, and I don't get it then.
You and I mean it's a minute.
I could never be a man I can.
SPEAKER_04 (05:44):
You you you do uh like public speaking?
SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
What for what?
Just mental health advocate.
SPEAKER_04 (05:50):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah.
And and that falls likeeverything falls under that.
SPEAKER_04 (05:54):
Can we get more into that?
SPEAKER_03 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Sure.
SPEAKER_04 (05:56):
So you're an ambassador for NCRF and NAMI.
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
NAMI, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:02):
Talk about a little bit, like how long you've been
doing it, um, you know, whatyour goals are.
SPEAKER_03 (06:05):
So um I'm an ambassador for NAMI, which is
the largest mental healthorganization in America, I
believe, and then uh uh NCRF,which is a National College
Resource Foundation founded byDr.
Sheresa Price.
NCRS, that is um, they over likeevery year, they've been helping
over hundreds and hundreds ofthousands of kids uh from
underserved communities go tocollege.
(06:25):
And I definitely felt a moralobligation to like helping and
being a part of something likethat, considering, you know,
where I come from.
I come from, I come from themud, man.
And I was like, if I ever makeit out, you know, I definitely
want to help people in any way,shape, or form that I can.
So that's that at a NAMI, whichis you know, specifically mental
(06:46):
health.
I mean, the mental health crisisin America right now is is it's
in it's insane.
I mean, the the rate that we'regetting checked in, like
clinical depression from like 13to 35.
I mean, the suicide rates uhfrom like you got teenagers, you
got kids that's just startinglife, like running off
themselves and things like that.
So I've been seeing it, and Irealized like a lot of people in
(07:08):
the black community, we don'treally understand what mental
health is.
Like I was doing an interviewand someone was like, someone
asked me, there was like, didthey start?
They was like, well, Da Vinci'sa big mental health advocate,
and they started asking someoneelse, like, so how's your mental
health?
And then this one dude, black,he was just like, um, well, I
don't have mental health, andlike I'm sorry for what DaVinci
goes through and I hopeeverything goes good.
(07:28):
And I was like, wait, time out,pause.
I was like, if you don't havemental health, you're dead,
buddy.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like saying I don't havephysical health.
SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (07:35):
But you could just see like our community is like,
damn, like we can't even computewhat that even means.
Mental health is just regulatingyour social, emotional,
physiological well-being, justso when life gets hard, when the
inevitable happens, which areproblems, you're able to deal
with it.
But it's like when you'reraising a child to not have
mental fortitude, whether thatbe gentle parenting, whether
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that be, you know, promotingsome negative, so much
negativity in that child'senvironment to where now that
child goes on.
I can go on and on.
No, exactly.
That's what we're here for.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, because I can really go onand on.
I know this is like to thescience.
SPEAKER_04 (08:09):
How is it for you?
And I I feel like I could relateto this a lot, because again, we
come from Caribbean background.
So um, coming from a Haitianbackground, I have a lot a lot
of Haitian friends that I'mclose with.
How is that with you coming froma Haitian household and
integrating mental health fromthat?
Like, at what point did you kindof click for you like this is
(08:30):
something that's serious, that'sreal?
Because I don't know what you'regonna tell me, but I guarantee
your parents probably didn'tinstill that in you.
SPEAKER_03 (08:36):
Yeah, my parents have no clue.
They like to them, I am justsaying a new fancy American
word.
SPEAKER_04 (08:45):
You know, and but they still feel that way, and
yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (08:49):
They don't really get it.
Like it, and it's like, but Idon't fault them because they
were raised in a differentgeneration.
Like they were like, we need tomeet the basic needs of your
survival.
That is food, water, shelter.
Yeah, got that, that'severything.
My job is done, and y'all go toschool.
You have a roof over your head,yeah, good.
(09:10):
So, off of their backs and theirblood, sweat, and tears, now we
have the luxury to think on on apsychological level.
But for such a long period oftime in America, black people
didn't even have that luxury.
SPEAKER_06 (09:20):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (09:20):
We were busy being workhorses.
So we like I we come from that.
So, so I don't take it personal.
I just look at them like withnothing but love and I just
welcome them with open arms.
But there's a lot ofconversations I can't have.
No, they're from Haiti.
SPEAKER_04 (09:34):
Oh, wow, sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (09:35):
No, they're off the boat, the salt water.
Like right now, they're goingcrazy that Haiti lost.
Like, them niggas is Haitian.
Like, like they call me Tblonde, like I'm white.
I'm a little white boy.
You speak Creole too?
Yeah, I speak Creole floor.
Okay, yeah, yeah, but I'm stilla white boy to them.
I talk about shit like mentalhealth, they're like, this nigga
soft.
SPEAKER_04 (09:52):
Nah, but not that that's real because again, we we
all kind of grew up with a toughskin, right?
Um, especially coming from Haitior Brooklyn or wherever.
So um it's it is a bit of apandemic now, um, and it's
serious.
And now we have so manydistractions.
Like you said, some kids startas early as like 13 and they're
(10:12):
having mental health issues.
Right.
Like we have they have this infront of them now, so it's it's
different.
SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (10:18):
Have there been any roles that you've learned from,
like kind of impacted yourpersonal life?
SPEAKER_03 (10:22):
Yeah, I would say every role.
Every role, like for sure.
Like, I think any role that anartist plays, like, if you're
really playing that character,it for sure impacts you.
I would say every project that Iplayed impacted me for sure.
Cause I I put myself in acharacter position, like, dang,
I wonder if I was really likethis.
(10:43):
And then yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (10:44):
Do you have a specific role?
SPEAKER_03 (10:45):
This firefighter role, actually.
Um, that and this project is notout yet.
So I don't really know how muchI could talk about it.
But um this role is probably themost intriguing so far, because
I'd never really understood whatthe life of a firefighter is
like.
Right?
Like I thought it was just likeputting out fires for real, but
now societies are so well builtthat there's not a lot of fires
(11:08):
like that.
So most firefighters, well, allfirefighters now are like
paramedics and EMTs.
So they're going to likedomestic violence calls, they're
going to like mental healthcalls, they're going to like
cardiac arrest.
They're just like, if if youfall and you can't get up, like
they're knocking on the door.
They're like, yo, let's pickyour ass.
Like they're they're doing somany things outside.
SPEAKER_04 (11:28):
So are they doing more of the job that police
officers and EMTs might do?
SPEAKER_03 (11:33):
Yeah, they're they're really they're EMTs for
sure.
They're for sure that.
Like it's to the point thathospitals are so backed up, you
know, most firefighters inAmerica, to where it's like
you're not just fighting fireanymore at all.
SPEAKER_04 (11:46):
So have you ever had a role that affected your mental
health?
SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
I would say BMF.
SPEAKER_04 (11:50):
How so?
SPEAKER_03 (11:51):
Well, I mean, every every project did for sure, but
I would say BMF probably made mea little more paranoid.
Because it opened a can thatlike I like closed.
You know, coming from where wecome from, sometimes it's like,
bro, um, sometimes I don't wantto deal with that shit.
Like, I don't I don't watchgangster shows.
(12:12):
I don't watch no gangster show,I don't watch gangster movies, I
don't really watch nothing likethat.
Cause I'm like, bro, it's likewhen you got brothers and
cousins that got affected bythat, and you see how it affects
your life, I'm like, why am Igonna reopen something that just
gonna, you know what I'm saying?
Piss me off.
But BMF, yeah, because I meanthe attention that you'll get
from outside, it's like all theall American, all the other
projects, it's like this ishappy go lucky football loving
(12:35):
people, middle American whitepeople, like, hey, that's but
like BMF, it's like you get likeniggas sizing you up, and really
you think they're sizing you up,but they want to say what's up,
they just don't know how to sayhi and greet properly.
So it's a real like yeah, yeah.
So, so and it's just likesometimes they so like, and
they'll be like, yo, I don'tknow how to say what up to this
(12:56):
nigga, but I want to say what upand get it for a picture.
But they just their ego, theythey in this contemplating zone
with themselves, and I'll belike, tell this thing to go, and
they he just want a picture.
But it looked crazy though,sometimes it's like like it's
like yo, bro, it's 12 a.m.
at night, like I'm doingsomething, you know what I'm
saying?
Or like some gangsters wouldcome up to me and start telling
me their hood stories and shit.
I'm like, bro, you keep that toyourself.
(13:16):
Like start telling me how theywere selling drugs and how they
worked with meat and tea.
And then I'm like, yo, bro, bro,bro, bro.
SPEAKER_04 (13:21):
Like so that that's just what they associate you as.
Like they kind of almost likelike we were talking about if
you were making music before,they associate that like that's
how you're living your life.
SPEAKER_03 (13:32):
In the in a sense, but but no, it's more like it's
more like they look at me like atherapist in a weird sense,
like, okay, you did thischaracter so well that like I
could open up about my criminalactivities.
But they know me, Da Vinci,didn't like I'm not promoting
that.
So, like, as they're talking tome, then they'll like realize,
(13:52):
like, oh you know what, yo,you're not even that nigga for
real.
Like, I mean, like, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So it's kind of one of thosethings to where they just feel
comfortable because they likethey they never want to therapy.
So it's just like, yo, let metalk to this nigga that's
playing this, and and it, andit's cool, but they don't they
don't think that's me, but itjust I guess I just allow I give
them a space to just unload andI just be like, all right, bro.
SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Like, do you do you have the answers for them, or
you just kind of like let themspeak?
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Yeah, I be telling them how to avoid the cops and
shit.
I was like, look, if you'regonna move a bird, you gotta
take this street.
Nah, um, nah, I just be reallylistening, and I just be like,
oh wow.
I'm like, yo, that's crazy.
Damn, that's tough.
Oh, you made it out.
Oh, you stirred 30.
Once I get the third damn,that's crazy.
Yeah, it's uh it's like that.
(14:36):
I just given them now.
They gonna know if they watchedit.
They're like, oh, that nigga'splaying me.
SPEAKER_04 (14:43):
Do you have a favorite role that you did?
SPEAKER_03 (14:46):
I would probably say like I think all American.
Only because like that was sothat's just nostalgic.
And it was it was so fun.
Like I got to play footballevery day on set, you know?
And I think I think that was forsure just and and I I guess it
was a part during Hollywood,like when everything shut down,
it was a pandemic, the world wasending.
(15:06):
So I just it's so many memoriesthat that's with that, that I
think that's why it is.
But honestly, it's really all ofthem.
I'll tell you one that I hate.
No, I'm playing.
I can't say that.
I can't say that.
SPEAKER_04 (15:18):
You sure you sure?
That'll that'll be the bonus thebonus content.
SPEAKER_03 (15:25):
Right, right, right.
After dark.
SPEAKER_04 (15:27):
All right, we're gonna play a little game
sponsored by the lovely ladies.
This or that.
All right, so it's very simple.
We're just two categories, thisor that.
You're picking which one youcould uh expand on it a little
bit.
Well, first one, we'll go thisor that, fresh haircut or a
fresh pair of kicks?
SPEAKER_03 (15:47):
Haircut.
SPEAKER_04 (15:48):
Why so?
Because, well, you on cameratoo.
SPEAKER_03 (15:50):
So uh, I mean, like, I feel like for sneakers, like
now at this point in my life, Idon't need a fresh pair of
sneakers.
Like, I could buy any shoe Iwant.
You know what I'm saying?
I would rather be well groomedat this point.
SPEAKER_04 (16:03):
Yeah, space car gotta be right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
So I don't look homeless.
Okay.
I mean, I can't really say thatin LA, because that isn't that a
derogatory term now.
Oh shit.
We'll cut you out.
We'll cut you out.
I'll not homeless, um house,apartmentless, houseless.
SPEAKER_05 (16:20):
No, it's something else.
SPEAKER_03 (16:22):
Unkept.
SPEAKER_05 (16:23):
What's the what's the politically correct term if
you're homeless here?
unknown (16:27):
Homeless?
SPEAKER_04 (16:27):
Yeah.
Unhoused.
Unhoused.
Oh, I didn't even know it was aterm for that.
Yeah, you can't say homeless.
SPEAKER_03 (16:33):
Yeah, you can't you can't say homeless.
SPEAKER_04 (16:34):
Oh, see, I'm glad I would have got canceled.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
Nah, but y'all good.
Y'all can say it though.
SPEAKER_04 (16:42):
In Florida, yeah, maybe, not here.
Yeah, it's it's different forus.
SPEAKER_03 (16:45):
But like, that's good for y'all ratings, though,
no.
If y'all said that, people wouldtalk about it.
Because I feel like podcastersare like comedians in a sense.
Like, y'all can say anything.
SPEAKER_04 (16:54):
Are we should we test it out?
No, I'm just playing.
SPEAKER_03 (16:56):
And I'm sure Birdman and Slim wouldn't have a
problem.
They probably don't give a damn.
They'll be like, nigga, what?
Like, that's they said worse.
SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
It is different here, though.
It's like all right, while we'reon the topic, would you go uh LA
or New York?
SPEAKER_03 (17:13):
LA or New York?
Dang, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_04 (17:20):
New York.
For what reason?
SPEAKER_03 (17:24):
Um, I think it's easier to find real people in
New York City.
Yeah.
I could see that.
No disrespect.
I don't live here, so I heard ofme.
Not anybody who's watching us.
No, no disrespect.
SPEAKER_04 (17:37):
Don't get canceled by electricity.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, man, I'm in Georgia.
I'm good.
Right, right.
Let's go uh vacation withfriends or a solo trip?
Vacation with friends.
Okay.
I was gonna ask you, but I thinkI know your answer.
SPEAKER_05 (17:54):
Let's go vacation or friends.
SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
Is it vacation?
SPEAKER_05 (17:58):
Vacation.
Vacation of friends?
SPEAKER_03 (18:00):
No, vacation, vacation and vacation with
friends, right?
SPEAKER_05 (18:03):
Vacation with friends.
SPEAKER_03 (18:04):
Okay, like boot up.
Oh, a vacation or vacation withfriends.
Like they're couples.
SPEAKER_05 (18:10):
Sure, there you go.
Huh?
Vacation or brocation?
Boys' trip.
Dang, I guess that depicts.
SPEAKER_03 (18:15):
I really think that depends.
It depends on how I'm feeling.
unknown (18:19):
Uh okay.
SPEAKER_03 (18:19):
Like, yeah, that that really does.
I think that's 50-50.
SPEAKER_04 (18:23):
I agree.
I agree.
Because sometimes, like, youwant that intimacy, but other
times you'll be like, you know,I see my boys.
SPEAKER_03 (18:30):
Nah, exactly, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (18:33):
Give me the boy.
Every time.
SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
Every time.
We can go wherever.
Oh, he's on some freaky time.
Hold on, cuz I I mean you justwant to chill with the homies
all day.
Damn, I feel sorry for her.
That is crazy.
Nigga told on this so wow.
He didn't even want to play atall.
SPEAKER_05 (18:53):
All my homies live on different parts of the
country.
We can only link every now andthen.
SPEAKER_04 (18:57):
Oh, yeah, that's even worse.
All right.
Would you rather have your oldtweets exposed or your old DMs?
SPEAKER_03 (19:05):
Tweets, tweets for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (19:07):
That's the answer.
Yeah, I'm going.
SPEAKER_03 (19:08):
I feel like I don't think I ever tweeted nothing
crazy.
I mean, I've never DM anythingcrazy too.
Because nowadays it's like youjust never know.
SPEAKER_04 (19:14):
But I feel like I'm getting canceled either way.
Either way, I'm sure.
What's the hill that you'rewilling to die on?
SPEAKER_03 (19:22):
Dang, yo, they're all, bro, they're all deep.
SPEAKER_04 (19:24):
You can start deep as you want.
SPEAKER_03 (19:25):
A hill that I'm willing to die on.
Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn.
Um I think, I mean, every womanshould, if you marry, I think
you should have your man's lastname.
SPEAKER_04 (19:35):
Oh, that's we got some we got some ladies in here.
SPEAKER_03 (19:38):
I would say that for sure.
SPEAKER_05 (19:40):
I like that.
SPEAKER_04 (19:42):
I agree with it, because then if you don't, it's
kind of like when I see thedouble last name, it's kind of
confusing.
SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (19:49):
But someone I haven't met many people that are
like that, but I have, I don'tknow.
There's a woman that we're.
She definitely got something.
No, yeah, you feel a way aboutthat.
No, actually, both.
Oh, here we go.
Here we go.
You Jamaican.
SPEAKER_03 (20:04):
So now y'all.
unknown (20:04):
He's Haitian.
SPEAKER_03 (20:05):
Yeah, so we neighbors.
Oh, yeah.
Well, like we heard of the nextone.
SPEAKER_04 (20:09):
We're gonna debunk this myth right now where they
say uh Haitian men tend to havemany families.
SPEAKER_03 (20:16):
Many families?
SPEAKER_04 (20:17):
I'm sure you've heard that.
Like multiple wives.
SPEAKER_03 (20:20):
Oh, I feel like that's that's like that's man,
period, though.
I don't know why.
We were talking about that.
I don't know why Haitians getthe like I feel that's that's
everyone.
SPEAKER_04 (20:29):
It might be that that island.
SPEAKER_03 (20:30):
Baby mama culture in America, like what?
Like we're like America is theflagship of like, like what
celebrity you know that don'thave like 30 baby mamas?
I feel like that's every manthough.
I feel like that was that was meanswering the question.
SPEAKER_04 (20:44):
Every man except us.
SPEAKER_03 (20:45):
Yeah, I feel like, but but I also, also, also, I
don't think, I don't okay.
I don't think if a person choseto have multiple wives, I don't
think there's nothing wrong withthat.
Like Neo or whatever, like whatis it like?
I don't think there's nothingwrong with that.
He's open about it, Atoms.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (21:03):
So do you separate the artist from the art, like a
situation like that versus theirmusic?
SPEAKER_03 (21:08):
Yeah, especially Neo situation, hell yeah.
Like, I mean, like, I agree withyou.
Yeah, yeah, that's like, andlike when I'm listening to the
songs, if I'm like in the houseand I'm cleaning and I'm
listening to like what's thatone Neo song?
I mean, he's that nigga withhim.
I can't even think of it rightnow.
But let's say So Sick, So Sick ALove Song, right?
SPEAKER_04 (21:26):
So sick.
SPEAKER_03 (21:27):
Right.
Do do do like and I'm like cleanthe house, I'm not thinking
about his personal life.
I'm zoning out.
Like if he have like 30felonies, right?
Like, I that's not why I put thesong on.
SPEAKER_04 (21:39):
Now, would you say women listen to music on a more
emotional level?
SPEAKER_03 (21:42):
I think if the artists have done something to
woman that triggers something, Ithink the woman ain't gonna want
to listen out.
SPEAKER_05 (21:50):
So is there I I'm I'm with you on the separating
the artist from the person.
Is there any limit that or likethreshold that you're like, yo?
SPEAKER_04 (22:00):
This man just did too much that like I can't
listen to his music no more.
SPEAKER_05 (22:04):
I'm sure you can think of a time.
SPEAKER_03 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (22:07):
I'm getting told to ask this question.
SPEAKER_03 (22:09):
No, no, no, for sure.
Like, I think I think if it'sone of some like he went on an
interview and he was like, yo,when I made this album, I was
like, I don't know, withLucifer, and we were like, let's
make music to da da da album.
Oh hell no.
SPEAKER_04 (22:25):
What if they peed on somebody?
Here we go.
SPEAKER_03 (22:28):
Well, I think I was too young to be aware of that
and uh that story.
So when I hear that story thatyou're talking about, I don't
really it's almost like it'salmost like it no like people
went through serious stuff and Iget that, but I never really did
(22:49):
the research on that.
Like I never watched any of thedocumentaries, I never watched
anything.
So all I really know him for isa couple songs.
SPEAKER_04 (22:57):
No matter what happened, I can't get those
lyrics and those those beats outof my head.
Do you have a guilty pleasure?
SPEAKER_03 (23:04):
Yeah, for sure.
Um I ain't gonna lie, likesometimes we would sit down in
the crib and like someone wouldput on Pop the Balloon and I'll
(23:26):
watch that shit.
And I'm not gonna lie.
At first I was just like, whatis going on?
But that shit is funny.
I respect that.
I'm not gonna lie, like Pop theBalloon is probably it.
Oh, that's a good good.
I've never watched a realityshow before in my life, but just
(23:47):
seeing what's out there in theworld, like men and women are
cooked.
SPEAKER_04 (23:51):
Oh man.
First of all, I start with theintro.
SPEAKER_03 (23:54):
I'm like, oh letter is funny as hell.
SPEAKER_04 (24:00):
I didn't expect you to say that.
SPEAKER_03 (24:02):
Yeah, honestly, that that's why I was laughing.
I was like, yo, people's notgonna believe it.
SPEAKER_04 (24:05):
I kind of want to go back.
I haven't seen all of them, butI've seen all of them too now.
Yeah, I'm not locked in likethat, but I've seen a few.
SPEAKER_03 (24:12):
I'm like, yeah, I've seen I've seen a few, like a
handful.
SPEAKER_04 (24:14):
It's a funny world, and it is real life, too.
SPEAKER_03 (24:16):
Exactly.
And and like, yeah, it and it'sit's kind of sad too, though.
Like sometimes I'll be watchingstuff, I'm like, damn, people
really think like this.
SPEAKER_04 (24:23):
This is how big it is now.
SPEAKER_03 (24:24):
It's like crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (24:26):
Uh anything you want to share, promote?
SPEAKER_03 (24:29):
Um, I do want to know more about the Neo thing.
SPEAKER_04 (24:34):
I would I would say Should we hand you a mic?
That mic work?
I would I would say that work?
unknown (24:38):
I'm a producer.
SPEAKER_04 (24:39):
I am not the same.
No, now you now you don't wantto the producer.
SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
Yeah, yeah, I just and I want to hear what you
think about the last name thing.
I guess crazy.
I don't even want to promoteanything.
I just really want to like Ijust want to see what they think
about.
Yeah, no, facts.
SPEAKER_00 (24:57):
Personally, I think um everyone's out of their
minds.
I think social media has fuckedup everything, and everyone
thinks they have all theseoptions that they don't.
So, like we weren't supposed tobe um exposed to this many
people in our lives at all ashuman beings, and it started and
we all witnessed it happen, andit's weird.
(25:20):
Um everyone's faking it becauseeveryone feels like they have
something to prove becauseeverything is very performative
and it's not real.
So, like, I I have faith on it'sjust someone I meet in person
versus I've seen people um meetonline or like Instagram or
Hinge, and sure, like that'scool, but like it's just way
(25:43):
harder because everyone valuessocial media versus interactions
in person more.
That's what I'll say.
SPEAKER_03 (25:52):
So you so you feel like the biggest thing is that
men because they have so manyoptions.
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
I think women too though.
SPEAKER_03 (25:59):
I I I but I think we have like way more options
though.
SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
Like real potential candidates.
I feel like I think it dependson the type of man too.
Yeah, but I but I feel like Ifeel like there's more women
than men.
There's more belly betterquality women than men.
So you guys have like six niggasyou I can choose from.
We have a million women that wecan choose from.
SPEAKER_04 (26:19):
I agree with that.
SPEAKER_03 (26:20):
And counting.
SPEAKER_04 (26:21):
I also feel like we're we are not us, but men as
a whore, not as picky.
We tend to be a little easy.
Like you said, though, goingback to your earlier point when
we first started, I feel like alot of weak men were raised in
this past generation, and it'sshowing, and it goes into your
(26:42):
point, Maya, about social mediaand getting exposed to all these
different people and all thesedifferent women.
It's like you add that with aweak foundation, a weak
household, a weak upbringing.
A lot of people grew up withoutfathers in the household,
without father figures in thehousehold.
We're consuming this bullshitand this bullshit here.
(27:02):
And then on top of that, youthink you have a million options
to all these different women,and it's like no fault to the
women, but they're perceiving,they're they're they're showing
this image online that's notreal, and it's like a weak man's
gonna fall for any of that.
Like you followed by lust by oh,she's got a big ass, and she's
(27:23):
got this, and she's got that,and it's just like like you
said, to your point, I I justthink the the the pool of men is
just very weak for women.
Yeah, just watch Pop the Balloonfor real.
SPEAKER_03 (27:37):
Yeah, no, that that that sucks.
So you feel like there's likeno, none, nothing left for you
guys.
SPEAKER_00 (27:42):
I wouldn't say nothing because you know,
everything works out the wayit's supposed to, but like it's
just not um not giving for yourmoney.
It's not like just like a funexercise.
SPEAKER_03 (27:59):
So, so like, so like so and people that's deciding to
like yo, you know what?
Let's just the three of us datethis one man, like Neo.
No, no, I'm just saying though,like you never like do you feel
like they they're on tosomething maybe?
Because the amount of womenversus men that I'm gonna No no
no I don't know I'm just gonnabe the camera No, not at all.
(28:23):
No, no, no, no, I'm not, I'mnot, but I'm just like I'm just
asking this because I think thisis something to really like
think about, kind of, no?
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
It's everyone's preference.
Like, if that's what they wantto do, then like, yeah, they're
on to that if they like that, orjust stay single.
But if they want to do that,then they can, you know what I'm
saying?
Facts, facts, so it's likethey're like making like it's
actually probably easier forthem if that's something they
want to do.
It's pretty easy.
Of course, a man would love tohave uh three girlfriends if he
can afford it.
I would not love to have it.
SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
That's a lot of work.
I would not love to have that.
To answer your question, no, Iwould not want to have that.
SPEAKER_01 (28:57):
Yeah, say that, say that.
But give it a preference.
I wasn't part of this.
My voice is really gone.
Say it again, say again.
Y'all saying y'all don't wantthree girlfriends, but y'all do
it anyway behind closed doors.
You might as well put it in theopen meeting.
SPEAKER_03 (29:12):
There's levels to it.
Nah, bro, you're preaching rightnow, bro.
That's a real bro, that's a realbutt with you.
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
I'm from huh?
SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
You from Brooklyn?
SPEAKER_01 (29:21):
No, I'm from Jersey, but I lived in Brooklyn.
SPEAKER_03 (29:22):
Jersey?
Okay, yeah, yeah.
So you're close enough.
See, that's a rumor right there,yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:26):
So they doing it right now.
I don't think he's wrong becauseyou're open about it.
And they're all in agreement.
I'd rather a man be like, yo,I'm I'm dating two other people.
And be like, okay, you're eithera dub or I'm gonna join.
That's what they did.
SPEAKER_04 (29:40):
I'm gonna be real with you.
I don't think that men, evenlike habitual cheaters, I don't
think that they truly want threegirlfriends.
I don't think the majority ofmen, I think a lot of men are
led by lust and like what theysee in social media, and you
have a million girls onInstagram that you can go, oh,
this girl got this, and the girlyou met and fell in love with
(30:02):
might not be the girl with thefattest ass or the nicest face.
And you just see, okay, let mego cheat or let me hop on hinge
or let me hop on this side andjust go meet up with this girl.
Because men be in a relationshipthat most men truly, I don't
know, maybe maybe we're in theminority.
I think that most men trulyvalue like a family, like having
a partner building something.
SPEAKER_01 (30:22):
Like most men really go like that?
For sure.
The men I know and the men thatI'm very playing.
My love language physical touch.
What's your love language ifthey don't want to be like?
Quality time.
What's your love?
That's interesting.
What's your love language on thesituation?
SPEAKER_03 (30:37):
Um what are the options?
SPEAKER_01 (30:39):
Quality touch, physical touch, access service,
gifts, and I'm missing one.
SPEAKER_04 (30:44):
And words of affirmation.
SPEAKER_01 (30:45):
Words of affirmation.
SPEAKER_03 (30:47):
I'll probably say access services and like no, no,
like physical.
I mean, I don't know.
All of them.
SPEAKER_06 (30:52):
What do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_05 (30:54):
Like, if I'm with my partner.
If I'm like, he's really hanginghimself.
SPEAKER_03 (31:00):
Niggas wild.
SPEAKER_04 (31:04):
If I'm with my partner, like we gotta be
touching.
Like, like I have to touch you.
Like, I don't care if you'reright here, like but you touch
one person at a time.
Yes, bro.
But I know, like, I know menthat struggle with lust and
struggle with like needing, andI feel like as men, we're
naturally like hunters.
We naturally like want to go outthere and kill, and that's just
(31:27):
we've been so like we grew upwith our father in our lives.
Like, we grew up like that'slike how many girls can you get?
Like, yo, this girl wants you,the girl.
Like, you've been taught from ayoung age, like what it's just a
number.
What can you kill?
Eat what you kill.
And it's like, so I feel like alot of men, and you add the
(31:48):
social media aspect into that,it's like there's a lot of stuff
to look at, a lot of eye candy.
How many can I kill?
Yeah, social media fucked it.
The the fucking porn addictionin this country is crazy.
Like, I think that's lust.
I don't think men truly want,oh, I want three different
wives.
I want three different who hasthe mental capacity to do with
three women at one time.
(32:08):
Let's be for real.
SPEAKER_03 (32:09):
I mean, people been living that way way longer than
they've been the monogamous.
Like, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_04 (32:15):
That must be.
SPEAKER_03 (32:16):
This is before Haiti was even a country.
Like, I'm talking like waybefore.
SPEAKER_04 (32:21):
I do think there was a lot of a lot of like monogamy
is relatively new.
SPEAKER_03 (32:25):
Correct.
Like humanity.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why like America pushingthis, like, niggas in America
aren't monogamous.
Like, just because you can'tmarry multiple women and that's
illegal, but it should beillegal to have multiple baby
mamas too.
But that's not the case.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, the country, thecountry is capped.
It's like it's not it's notreally monogamous.
(32:46):
And as she was saying, like, Imean, I'm not gonna let me chill
before people think I'm gonnabe.
I'm just saying, like, it's justlike when I think, I think what
what you were saying is from a,and I don't mean this like a uh
a disrespectful way, I thinkit's from a vacuum.
Because by and large, if youlook at the history of humanity,
(33:07):
they've been polygamous.
SPEAKER_05 (33:08):
Correct.
SPEAKER_03 (33:09):
So to say like psychologically, like no man
would want that, it's kind oflike is your girl listening
right now?
That's what you're saying is.
No, I'm like, I'm gonna saywhatever I want.
I'm gonna say that.
You know, and and it's likebecause because I just don't
think that's like that's why Imean people were just cheating
and wilding left and right.
SPEAKER_05 (33:27):
So if it was socially acceptable, would you
be open to multiple women at onetime?
SPEAKER_04 (33:36):
Because like you said, that's it.
So I think it's because Ipersonally wouldn't want that.
Even if I could have it, Iwouldn't want that.
It depends on the man, itdepends on preference.
No, that's what I'm saying, yourpersonal preference.
SPEAKER_03 (33:46):
I don't know.
I I it just it it it depends.
But but and I also don't thinkthough, one thing as well, like
when people talk about polygamy,it's not this is my girlfriend,
this is my girlfriend, this ismy girlfriend.
It's like one person is likeromantic.
It's an institutional marriage,right?
So someone could just be marriedinto the family and it has
nothing to do with sex, you justmake the greatest pancakes.
(34:07):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Or this person's a familyaccountant, and it's like a it's
like a protection thing thatthis person is protected under
the umbrella of like the family,the bloodline.
So it's not necessarily likefrom this like oh, having sex,
humping perspective that mostpeople think it is, you know
what I'm saying?
I mean, don't get me wrong, somepeople wild out and just do
anything, but I don't think it'slike from that.
(34:29):
Like I've I've studied this inschool, so it's like, and I've
learned like I'm like, oh shit,it's not what we think it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, even though some people,obviously that's the case, some
people have islands and theywild out, but I just don't
think, like, for men being Idon't know.
SPEAKER_04 (34:44):
I know I think the same, because I think, like, for
example, women could be like, Iwant this man for money, I want
this man for dick, I want thisman for comfort and good
conversations.
SPEAKER_03 (34:53):
Exactly, they got a whole roster and they not
fucking all of them, theyfucking just one.
SPEAKER_04 (34:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, I wouldn't want threedifferent women I'm fucking at
the same time.
Cause but it might be like, allright, this woman, like, she's
foot really fun to go on dateswith.
Right.
Or this one is your secretary.
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (35:10):
Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (35:11):
So I mean, I get it.
I mean, personally, I can't dothat just because it's too much
for me, but I see why people dothat.
Because I think we we think it'sjust you know, sexual, but I
mean Is it something you wouldbe you would be interested?
SPEAKER_05 (35:23):
Something you would do if you went back to it.
SPEAKER_03 (35:26):
No, I mean, no, I mean, I don't I don't know.
I would have to talk to likelike my shorty, like whoever my
shorty is at the time, if itbecomes legalized, then I'll be
like, yo, what you think?
Because I don't think you shoulddo it unless like everybody's
on, you know, gang.
Because then if you're doing itand without organizing, you're
just gonna church.
SPEAKER_04 (35:44):
Especially for a man, it depends like kind of
where you are.
Because, you know, as a man,like you gotta have the finances
too if you balance in three tofour different women.
Facts.
So you can't be a broke boy outhere, but oh yeah, I'm just
gonna have four.
SPEAKER_03 (35:57):
And they still doing it.
SPEAKER_04 (35:58):
They doing it.
SPEAKER_03 (35:59):
I know, I know, and they still doing it on a sixty
thousand dollar salary, likeit's crazy.
No disrespect, no disrespect.
But I know I know people thatare.
SPEAKER_04 (36:08):
They doing it on 20.
SPEAKER_03 (36:09):
Yeah, I know the nigga with no job.
SPEAKER_04 (36:11):
Like, no facts.
It's wow.
It sounds like she's gonna havesome stuff to say.
SPEAKER_03 (36:17):
No, she got a lot to say.
I really want to hear what yougot to say right now.
Like, you got something to say.
SPEAKER_04 (36:24):
All right.
Uh, I'll ask you again if youwant to share, promote anything.
SPEAKER_03 (36:28):
Um, nah, I'm I'm good, man.
I'm I'm chilling.
Life is good, God is good.
I would just tell everybody keepGod first.
SPEAKER_04 (36:34):
Amen.
SPEAKER_03 (36:34):
Read, read your Bible, educate yourself, and
just just think of yourselfless.
Learn about something.
SPEAKER_04 (36:41):
Like I said, I appreciate you coming on,
appreciate the vibes.
Uh, wishing you all the best forsure.
Appreciate that.
Uh, you know, just appreciatethe good conversation.
Thank you for listening.
Can't I buy with y'all podcasts,all platforms, YouTube, TikTok,
IG, Facebook, all that goodstuff.
Shout out Cash Money, shout outthe production, shout out Eli.
The best team, the best team.
Shout out LA, we're gonna have agood weekend.
(37:03):
Let's have a weekend here in LA.
Feeling good, living better.
Much love, appreciate y'all.
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