May 23, 2026 • 27 mins
This week on Closer to Venus, host Johnny Burke sits down with certified hypnotherapist and Reiki practitioner Jonathan Robinson, who guides clients through past life regression and spiritual hypnotherapy to uncover the roots of fear, anxiety, and recurring patterns. Jonathan shares some of his most unforgettable sessions—from clients who were once energy beings on other planets to a client who lived through the fall of Atlantis.
In this episode:
- Why children often remember past lives more vividly than adults
- How near-death experiences validate what happens during past life regression
- What Atlantis, Egypt, and off-planet lives reveal about who we really are
00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
00:43 Why Past Life Regression
01:49 Reiki Meets Hypnotherapy
03:32 First Wild Regression Story
05:39 Time and Parallel Lives
06:23 Off Planet Past Lives
07:57 Atlantis, Egypt, and Lemuria
11:07 How Sessions Actually Work
12:41 Jonathan’s Own Past Life
14:51 Soul Groups and Life Planning
16:29 Between Lives Spirit Guide Temple
18:26 NDE Parallels and Life Review
19:37 Pastors as Channelers
20:26 Lost Psychic Abilities
22:17 Fear and Demonization
24:02 Demons and Deities
24:42 Spirit Forms and Readiness
26:21 Higher Self vs Guides
27:15 Future Life Progression
28:53 UFO Tech and Disclosure
32:25 Lessons from the Work
35:51 Finding Jonathan Online
38:16 Final Wrap-Up
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Johnny Burke (00:01):
Welcome to Closer to Venus.
I'm Johnny Burke, and today'sguest is Jonathan Robinson.
He is a certifiedhypnotherapist and Reiki
practitioner.
He specializes in past liferegression hypnotherapy and
spiritual hypnotherapy, whichcan help uncover the root cause
of fears, anxieties, andrecurring emotional patterns.
In this episode, we'll discusshis past life regression stories
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and client experiences thatfelt like true soul adventures.
Jonathan, welcome to theprogram.
Hello, hello, thank you.
How did you first of all getinterested in past life
regression?
How did that happen?
Jonathan Robinson (00:37):
I was wondering the big picture
questions in life.
What is our purpose?
Why are we here?
Where do we come from?
And there has to be more thanjust the 3D world.
And a lot of the answers fromreligion and other things
weren't good enough for me.
So I started reading a bunch ofbooks, spiritual books, Dolores
Cannon, Michael Newton's books,and I resonated with it, and I
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was so excited, but I'm also askeptic.
So I said, if they can do that,why can't I do that?
So I was certified in Reiki andin hypnotherapy, and lo and
behold, one after another, allmy clients go into their past
lives, whether they know aboutit or not, all different
cultures and places around theworld, and one thing is true,
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they all can tap into thatfrequency of their past life
memories.
Johnny Burke (01:24):
The Michael Newton books are pretty mind-blowing
to say the very least, with thelife in between lives.
Did you venture into Reikifirst or did hypnotherapy come
first with you?
Jonathan Robinson (01:35):
Yeah, I think I did Reiki first, so I got a
session done on me, and she wastelling me things about my
energy and body.
I didn't tell her or didn'ttell anyone, and afterward I
felt more like myself.
I felt balanced, my throatchakra was changed, and I became
a believer because she didn'teven put her hands on me.
So then after that I gotcertified, and now whenever I
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think about Reiki, even now Ifeel my hands, the tingly
feeling, it's like a magneticfield around them, and I send
that to my clients a lot too.
Johnny Burke (02:05):
Does the Reiki compliment the hypnotherapy,
especially if they go into theirpast lives or not necessarily?
Jonathan Robinson (02:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Distance Reiki works as good asin person, a lot of people say,
and I think it compliments andhelps.
Not a lot of people line up atyour door for Reiki yet, but I
think everyone should learn it,just like everyone should learn
breath work and meditation andReiki.
It feels like magic almost, butit's scientifically proven to
help people heal faster and allthat.
(02:33):
And Reiki is actually beingused in hospitals these days,
isn't it?
Yeah, in surgery and hospitals,and it's uh more well known
too.
But i the thing is not a lot ofpeople come to me for that, so
I just include it in thesessions.
Johnny Burke (02:48):
When you started as a hypnotherapist, do you
remember the first experiencewhen one of your clients went
into a past life?
Jonathan Robinson (02:55):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Even my first sessions, I wasso blown away by it working.
I was like, now I just know andexpect it to work because I
have such a high success rate.
But at first I was like, Idon't know, is this gonna work?
What's gonna happen?
But some of my first sessionswere uh amazing just because of
the spiritual people that I didit with, and one of them went
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back to the past life beforethey were even in physical form.
They wanted to know where theycame from, I think was her
intention.
And she was this energy beingon a planet like Krypton, and
she could teleport and move.
She didn't have a body, she wasjust an energy like orb.
She said it was very boring,though.
She said it was very neutral,there's no highs or lows or
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emotions, it's very boring, andso I said, All right, we'll go
to an exciting day.
So she went to a day where thelight came down from the sky and
it made her an offer.
Four of them got offered toincarnate as a physical being,
and she accepted, as well asfour others, and they shipped
them off to other star system orplanets, and she got attuned to
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Earth's frequency, because youneed to be attuned to the
Schumann resonance or thefrequency of Earth, and then she
began to incarnate.
When she first started, though,it was challenging because
Earth school is very tough andshe wasn't used to it.
But after a while, afterseveral dozen or hundreds of
lives, she's better now, so ittakes a while.
Johnny Burke (04:21):
So maybe we shouldn't be aspiring to be
energy beings right away.
So that goes way back intotime, or did that particular
life go into a space where timeis not as we know it here on
Earth?
Jonathan Robinson (04:34):
Yeah, it's time is all happening at once,
they say, in the spirit world.
Is it past lives or is itparallel lives?
Is it, you know, all happeningat once?
They all kind of intersect.
So it's hard concept for ushumans to comprehend because we
see a story, you know,beginning, middle, and end, and
baby, adult, and grandpa.
So it we just call it pastlives for convenience.
Johnny Burke (04:54):
Any client experiences on other planets
where maybe they were from thePleiades or Sirius or something
like that?
Jonathan Robinson (05:03):
Yeah, yep.
I've had several past lives gooff planet.
Now, most people aren't readyfor that.
So my clients, it depends howready they are for that, because
it could be jarring or thehigher self will only show you
what you're ready to see andwill most benefit you.
So typically we go toearth-bound past lives, but for
some of my clients, maybe peoplelistening can relate.
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If you don't feel like you'refrom here, you feel alone, or
you know, you don't fit in,those were the clients that
ended up going to off-planetpast lives where there was red
skies and two suns and humanoid,reptilian, different beings
with blue skin, all live inharmony together.
And the cool thing is that whenI went to a spiritual day,
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spiritual day was them around afire chanting and connecting
with source, like meditation.
So even on other planets, wehave to connect with that
source, have to feel the blissand have that life force coming
through us.
Johnny Burke (06:01):
So that definitely does not sound boring.
That sounds pretty interesting,I think.
Jonathan Robinson (06:05):
Oh, yeah.
Cars that fly, holograms,technology that probably we used
to have during Atlantis andEgyptian the rise, but now it's
coming back, hopefully.
Johnny Burke (06:17):
That's what I keep hearing.
Speaking of Atlantis, Egypt,and possibly even Lemuria, any
client experiences, or for thatmatter, any experiences of your
own from that era?
Jonathan Robinson (06:28):
Yeah, Atlantis and Lemuria are pretty
far back.
So typically we remember themost recent past lives.
Now, children oftentimes whohave night terrors or tell their
parents, remember when we wereJapanese and I was the dad, like
a four-year-old, Jim Tucker hastwo books, lots of cases of
children's past lives, where youcan look up the family and the
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address, and like a detective,they can find it.
And how is a child getting thisinformation?
So people believe the childrenmore than my clients who are
adults.
So children remember their mostrecent past lives.
Typically, my clients go to themost recent ones.
Those are the ones mostaffecting us now.
So it's rare that we will goall the way back to Lemeria or
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Egypt or uh Atlantis.
However, many sessions havegone to Egypt because that was
more recent.
And Egypt was lush.
It was not a desert, it was aforest, it was a jungle, there
was water everywhere, there wasgold and crystals on the
pyramids, and they used magic,they used Reiki, they used all
kinds of things, and it wasmuch, much different.
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They would put Reiki energyinto crystals, they'll wrap it
in leaves, and give it to peopleto help heal them.
The priestesses would and thepriests.
So Egypt was very magicalplace.
Johnny Burke (07:43):
It sounds like there is definitely a connection
between Egypt and I guess alater version of Atlantis.
Did you or your clients eversee evidence of that?
Jonathan Robinson (07:53):
Yeah, yeah.
So I had one client who was inAtlantis, and she was like a
premonition person who wouldhave dreams of the future, and
she went to an important daywhere she saw that Atlantis was
gonna flood or something bad wasgonna happen, she said.
I said, Well, what do you do?
She says, I try to warneveryone, but they're not
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listening, they're not payingattention.
I said, What do you do?
Well, I take my family on boatsand we leave.
Many, many other people leave,but a lot of people chose to
stay.
And they went to Egypt andStonehenge and other parts of
the world, and they broughttheir crystals with them to
Egypt and stuff, but a lot ofpeople uh just stayed and it
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when it crashed it fell, andsome people escaped, but not
everyone.
Johnny Burke (08:39):
And a lot of them did migrate to Egypt, I imagine.
At least that's what I'm told.
Jonathan Robinson (08:44):
Yes.
A lot of them.
So my client did, actually.
So she went there and helpedEgypt rise and then it was the
next Mecca, beautiful, and theybrought their crystals there and
technology and helped them.
Johnny Burke (08:56):
When you're in a session with a client and they
go back to a certain life,wherever it is, whether it's
fifteenth century England or anancient civilization, are you
actually able to share theexperience or are you more like
the messenger?
Jonathan Robinson (09:12):
A lot of people do get visions with me
and they're in the scene.
So I walk them through the mostmeaningful moments.
If there's any traumaticsituations, we handle that
together, we heal from it, werelease it, whatever's holding
them back.
Yeah, they're in the scene, soit's very meaningful.
Unlike uh maybe an AkashicRecords reading where a psychic
would be telling you, here'swhat happened, my clients are
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viewing them.
They're both good, but uh thisway they're more connected.
Johnny Burke (09:39):
Have you done Akashic Records readings in the
past, or do you just stick tothe hypnotherapy and the reiki?
Jonathan Robinson (09:45):
I don't do them.
I don't facilitate them, but Ihave gotten them on me, and I
found them a hit or misssometimes.
Some of them have been reallyamazing, others when I didn't
connect too much.
Johnny Burke (09:55):
Have you had any past life experiences of your
own?
Jonathan Robinson (09:57):
Yes.
Yeah.
So I was in India, the country,as a woman.
So we can be male or female,rich and poor.
We change bodies and culturesto learn different lessons.
And we've all been male andfemale, believe it or not.
So most of the time we come inwith both energies, though.
And so as an Indian woman, Iwas there, and my father was
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like not a king, but maybe morewealthy, took care of, owned a
lot of businesses, and I was awoman in my brother in that
lifetime was my younger sisterin this lifetime.
And so that explained thatrelationship dynamic I have with
my sister.
It's a butting heads a littlebit, but uh we're good now and
stuff.
She was the older brother and aman back then, and she would
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get all the credit for things,and and I think I fell off a
roof or something, becausewhenever I think about going
near a ledge, uh my heart startsbeating, racing.
And uh in this life I almostfell off a ladder a few times,
so either I fell off a horse andgot trampled or fell off a
roof.
So fears, phobias, andbirthmarks that are unexplained
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can come from our past lifetraumas if it's an emotional
situation with a traumaticscene.
Johnny Burke (11:09):
Now, your sister in this life, is she aware that
you two shared a past life?
She's open and supportive, butshe's not that into this type of
stuff.
You've never had thatdiscussion or you have, and she
just says, Yeah, sure, Jonathan,whatever you say.
How did that go?
Jonathan Robinson (11:26):
The latter.
I joke around and she likeagrees, but it's kind of casual.
Johnny Burke (11:31):
How common is it with your clients to have a
session and then recognizesomeone from a past life?
Jonathan Robinson (11:39):
Yeah, I would say fifty percent of the time.
I don't always ask thatquestion, but if they want to
know more about their soul groupor soul family, that's a group
of about 20.
It could be more, depends onhow many people you interact
with, but there's a soul orspirit family that we choose to
incarnate with each other toteach each other lessons.
We switch roles and places,maybe one life, you're the man
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in the relationship, then thenext one, they're the woman,
father, daughter, scenarios,cousins, uncles.
So they know.
I'm like, does this personremind you of any life?
You're like, oh yeah, itreminds me of this person.
Not the way they look, but theessence of that of them, the
energy will they'll know.
Johnny Burke (12:19):
What you're talking about is when we plan
our lives before we incarnate.
I take it that your clientshave experienced that in-between
life state where they visitwith their soul group or their
soul family and they discusswho's going to inhabit what body
and in what role.
Is that true?
Jonathan Robinson (12:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
In fact, I just did a sessionwith a psychic.
I do sessions with a lot ofspiritual people, including
psychics, because even I do afew sessions a year that I'm the
client because we can't alwaysfacilitate our own healing if
there's emotions and situationsthat occur.
So a lot of psychics are reallygood at this because they're
really in it.
They could get really clearvisions.
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And yeah, he wanted to go to inbetween lives.
Typically, I bring him to apast life first, then after the
death scene, we go up, up, up tothe spirit world.
It's not a destination, it'smore of a realm.
So, yeah, he went up, his wholebody was vibrating at a high
frequency, felt very connected.
There was a s golden stairsinto a temple, and in the temple
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there was a big statue, liketen feet tall.
And the statue started moving,and the statue was his spirit
guide.
I've had that happen beforewhen someone else went to a
goddess Athena's temple.
She was a statue, but then shestarted moving.
So the statue started movingand was giving him information
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and sending him messages andlove, showing him what's
possible with his current life,what the future holds, giving
him reassurance.
He said cycles of nine allthroughout his life.
He started boxing when he wasnine, he did something else when
he was eighteen.
Another chapter unfolded whenhe was twenty-seven, so these
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numbers, cycles, uh, areprevalent, and he's aware of
that now.
Johnny Burke (14:06):
That sounds very similar to a near-death
experience, only we don't haveto crack up a car or clinically
die to actually get there.
Do you see the parallels?
Or has anybody ever had an NDEand then reported a similar
experience in one of yoursessions?
Jonathan Robinson (14:22):
Yeah, and NDEs validate past lives because
similar situations happen afterthe death scene.
We float above the body, we'remet with by our spirit, guide
our loved one, and then fromthere we go to an attuning
center to be healed from earth.
Trauma, we do a life review,you know, audit of what we did
good and bad.
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There's no counsel, there is nohell.
I at least I haven't found ityet.
And no uh purgatory where we'retortured forever, sorry.
Church.
That was actually one of hisquestions, because as a psychic,
he is demonized by the Bible,really Bible people.
It's unfortunate because theysay he's talking to demons.
But in a past life, he was apastor of a church who was
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amazing, and actually, pastorsof churches used to be psychics
that would get messages from thedivine, and that's how they
would give their sermons, theywould channel that.
Now, what happened?
I think this is what happened.
People that weren't psychics ortapped in became pastors.
They were jealous of the peoplethat could channel, and they
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demonized it because they saidyou're talking to demons, and
it's not true.
Johnny Burke (15:33):
Very interesting.
It's the first time I've heardthat.
In your exploration of pastlives, did you ever get a sense
that we as humans had abilitiesthousands of years ago?
Let's say in Atlantis, wheretelepathy was normal, being
psychic was normal.
Jonathan Robinson (15:50):
Yeah, that's a question I often ask is when
they're doing Reiki and soundhealing and levitating even in
their meditations.
I ask, can we do that today?
Can we still do that?
And they always say, Yes, youcan, but you just didn't learn
how.
If you teach a kid Reiki ormeditation, or they're even
teaching kids remote viewingwith the telepathy tapes with
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the autistic nonverbal children,it's just normal for them.
There's no limitations.
It's just we didn't learn it asa young age, so we didn't work
that muscle out in our mind.
Johnny Burke (16:20):
Okay, so how long ago was this?
What, 300 years ago, 400 yearsago, when the pastors were able
to channel source to givesermons, but we got to a point
in our civilization where weeither don't know how to do it
or we forgot how to do it.
Which would it be?
Jonathan Robinson (16:38):
The thing is, there always has been and there
always is channelers, mediums,and psychics.
It'd be weird if there wasn't,because they've always been
around.
I think people were more tappedin way back in Egypt, and it
was more accepted.
Now you kind of have to be aspecial person to not be shut
down by parents and society andhide your gifts.
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I believe as things get morepopular, the church
organization, I love allreligions by the way, no
knocking anything, but assomething gets more popular, the
wrong people start to take itover and they veer it in the
wrong direction.
Johnny Burke (17:15):
So it if a pastor, for instance, is talking about
demons, chances are he's notreally connected with anything.
Jonathan Robinson (17:22):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fear-mongering,right?
Anything that's fear iscontraction.
It should be abundance andlove, that's expansion.
So if they're telling you tofear something, I don't think
that's right.
Johnny Burke (17:32):
No, it isn't.
It's not really connected toanything.
Or is it?
Could they be connected to amischievous spirit, or could
they be just plain jealous, likeyou said earlier?
Jonathan Robinson (17:43):
Even the Lucifer angel, uh it was like
the angel of mischief, and hewould play tricks on people.
Everything has a place.
It's a challenge that we needto overcome.
It it served a purpose.
It's not always, you know, goodor bad or right or wrong.
Johnny Burke (17:56):
So when someone goes into the in-between life
space from a past life wherethey die, some people report
seeing demons, some peoplereport seeing Jesus.
Could it be that simple thatthey just see what they want to
see and it's manifested, or notnecessarily?
Jonathan Robinson (18:13):
I have a good answer for that.
So the spirit beings willpresent themselves as what looks
familiar to the person.
So if they're actuallyPleiadian or aliens from a
different star system, theywon't present themselves as
their true form.
They'll present themselves assomething that's familiar so it
doesn't freak us out.
So that often happens when myclients are ready, they'll see
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the mantis beings, they'll seeblue beings, humanoid beings.
But if they're not ready,they'll present themselves as a
familiar family member orsomething of that sort.
Johnny Burke (18:44):
So being ready, meaning let's say if I go into a
session and I see that being,that means I already have a
memory of it and it's not gonnafreak me out and it's
acceptable.
Jonathan Robinson (18:55):
Yeah, they would present themselves as its
true form because it knowsyou're ready for it.
It'll only show you what you'reready to see.
And that's common with thesesessions.
I don't guide the clients, Ihave them write down a list of
questions that they want to getanswered, and I will, you know,
guide if I need to, but thehigher self is brilliant.
It knows exactly what to showthem.
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It won't show you anythingyou're not ready to see, it'll
only show you what'll benefityou, and it has a magical way of
answering all those intentionsand showing you reflections of
your current life challenges inyour past life memories.
Johnny Burke (19:28):
So the higher self, I believe, sometimes gets
confused with a spirit guide, orare they the same thing?
What's been your experience?
Jonathan Robinson (19:37):
I believe that yeah, they're different.
Uh spirit guide is a differententity or being that's of white
light, it's very loving andsupportive and guiding, and it's
assigned.
Everyone is assigned a spiritguide.
Our higher self is like afuture version of us that's
projecting its consciousnessback into us to help guide us,
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and we can only take a fractionof that light or that energy
right now in our dense physicalform.
And so our higher self is thefull potential of the version of
us in the future.
Johnny Burke (20:10):
We're also starting to hear about future
life progression.
Jonathan Robinson (20:14):
Yes.
It's just as easy as past lifeprogression.
Some people bounce thereautomatically.
I don't try, but I did asession last week with that and
went, had him go to a futurelife 2110.
And the first thing he said is,Oh, global warming doesn't kill
us.
Because that was, you know, afear-mongering thing.
Cars that could fly cities,anti-gravity cities.
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So if the weather's bad inPortland, you could go to
Seattle or California, you couldmove it around, there's less
pollution.
There's holographic technologyall over.
We don't integrate with AI asfar as in our body, so that's
good.
Thank God.
Enough of that already.
Can we teleport?
You know, I think they move sofast on the anti-gravity ships
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that w uh weave throughspace-time that they don't need
it because they could justalready go so fast.
Johnny Burke (21:01):
So you can go back and forth between LA and New
York, and it's just like a busride almost.
Jonathan Robinson (21:07):
Very, very, very quickly.
Yeah, they have the technologynow.
We're hearing about all theseUFO scientists that are being
shut down, and I think it'sbecause they have the
technology, but it's aboutmoney.
The oil and gas industry wouldgo completely under, and what if
someone uses it for a weapon?
That's why they're notdisclosing it yet.
Johnny Burke (21:26):
Speaking of disclosure, with your experience
of the past life sessions andthose people that bring up
galactic past lives and soforth, has that given you any
insight into disclosure whenit's going to be it's no longer
a question that there are aliensamong us.
Jonathan Robinson (21:42):
Yeah, and if they wanted to wipe us out, they
could have.
I think they're friendly.
I do regression to abductions,and typically it's friendly.
They're checking on their ownkind, monitoring them, giving
them downloads and putting themback.
Why else would they let us liveor put us back?
They have the technology towipe us out.
That was interesting because.
Because it was like a futureversion of them or their higher
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self was the one abductingthemselves and putting them
back.
So we are not allowed tointerfere unless we ask.
But yeah, I think they'realready among us.
They're just beyond thephysical veil of sight.
They're beyond that physicalspectrum.
And some of them look similarto us, and some people can see
them, other people can't.
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The ones that can, but theywill know if you can see them,
and they will try to projecttelepathically, like to distract
you so you won't notice them.
So it's almost like they don'tneed a disguise.
They just shift your mindtowards something else without
you noticing because they're soadvanced.
Johnny Burke (22:42):
I've always been told that they've been here the
whole time when some of us arewaiting for perhaps a ship from
Pleiades or Venus for thatmatter to come down with these
beautiful Nordic looking peoplethat are seven feet tall.
That might happen, but we'rebeing told that there's gonna be
an event in the next year ortwo where they're gonna make
themselves very visible.
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Have you been told the samething or not really?
Jonathan Robinson (23:06):
I hope it's not a distraction or a fake
alien invasion to unite us forwar or something.
I'm always open-minded to it.
We're definitely not alone, andI think they're friendly.
I think they're trying to helpus.
Johnny Burke (23:17):
Hopefully that's true.
I would think based on thestories or accounts, most of
them are.
I think it's a matter ofraising our vibration to a
certain point where the not sofriendly ones can't stay here
anymore.
But that's probably adiscussion for another day.
In your experience, what do youthink is the most important
thing that you've learned sofar?
Jonathan Robinson (23:36):
Yeah, oh man.
I learn every week, every day.
That's why I love what I do.
Every session's different, it'suh spontaneous, it's improv.
I don't know if you're gonnaend up in a battlefield or
another planet or desert or anocean.
And then we go from there.
A lot of these sessions show mereflections of my own
challenges in the sessions,because that's the way the
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universe works.
Bringing them the right peopleat the right time.
I hope people can get from thiswork that to not fear death.
It's not the end.
We transition, we go on.
And I think a lot of this couldhelp with the disclosure too,
is realizing that we do havepast lives.
We've been male and female, alldifferent cultures, so we don't
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need to discriminate if someonelooks different.
We accept people for who theyare and their energy and essence
and merit, not what theirphysical appearance is.
And if we understand that, thenthe disclosure part.
If I saw an alien, I probablywouldn't treat them any
different than a person becausethey deserve to be treated just
as good.
If I see a millionaire or apoor person, I treat them with
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kindness and love and respect.
A lot of people will treat themillionaire nicer because they
value, oh, this person might beable to help me with something
or do something, and the poorperson can't.
And they'll change the way theytreat people.
Well, we should treat everyonethe same with love and respect.
Johnny Burke (24:55):
I can't disagree with that, but I definitely
acknowledge that past lives andnear-death experience survivors
can tell us a lot about thosebig questions you mentioned
before.
Why are we here?
What's the purpose?
What really happens when wedie?
I think it's going to be a lotmore popular in the future.
I think it's going to get somemomentum.
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You agree?
Jonathan Robinson (25:17):
It's even growing now.
A lot of my clients are like,I've been wanting to do this for
years, I just can't find anyonein my area.
And it's the beauty of onlinework is whether you're in person
or online, your eyes are closedafter the first minute.
So it's I'm right there.
You have the safety and comfortof your own environment, and I
record the audio, send you itafter, so it's just as good.
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So I found a lot of root causesof fears and phobias, even
birthmarks with no explanation,forever feelings, and just
little flashbacks, a deja vu.
If you feel called, do it.
Try it out, read a few books,do a session or two, and it's
gonna be very great forspiritual growth.
Johnny Burke (25:57):
Interesting stuff.
So, what else do we need toknow, at least for tonight?
Reach out to me.
Jonathan Robinson (26:02):
I do free introductory calls, meet people
from all over.
I do one-on-one sessions,multiple sessions, whether
that's for trauma in this lifeor past lives.
Overcoming that with hypnosisis the easiest, efficient, most
effective way to get past thoseblocks.
I teach hypnotherapy, so I do acourse, kind of like QHHT or a
(26:23):
hypnosis course.
So you learn hypnotherapy, pastlives, trauma release, all that
fun stuff.
You'll be a confident,certified hypnotherapist by the
end of it.
I have an app coming out calledJourneys into the subconscious,
which is a hypnotherapy app.
Nothing else like it on themarket.
It is gonna have past lives,daily sessions, really cool
stuff on that.
(26:44):
I'll let you guys know when itcomes out.
And I do this remotely fromanywhere.
Johnny Burke (26:49):
Alright, good.
So in the meantime, how can ourlisteners find you online?
Jonathan Robinson (26:53):
Journeys into Past Lives.
So Journeys into Past Lives,Instagram, YouTube, website, all
the socials.
Johnny Burke (27:01):
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Welcome to Closer to Venus.
I'm Johnny Burke, and today'sguest is Jonathan Robinson.
He is a certifiedhypnotherapist and Reiki
practitioner.
He specializes in past liferegression hypnotherapy and
spiritual hypnotherapy, whichcan help uncover the root cause
of fears, anxieties, andrecurring emotional patterns.
In this episode, we'll discusshis past life regression stories
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and client experiences thatfelt like true soul adventures.
Jonathan, welcome to theprogram.
Hello, hello, thank you.
How did you first of all getinterested in past life
regression?
How did that happen?
Jonathan Robinson (00:37):
I was wondering the big picture
questions in life.
What is our purpose?
Why are we here?
Where do we come from?
And there has to be more thanjust the 3D world.
And a lot of the answers fromreligion and other things
weren't good enough for me.
So I started reading a bunch ofbooks, spiritual books, Dolores
Cannon, Michael Newton's books,and I resonated with it, and I
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was so excited, but I'm also askeptic.
So I said, if they can do that,why can't I do that?
So I was certified in Reiki andin hypnotherapy, and lo and
behold, one after another, allmy clients go into their past
lives, whether they know aboutit or not, all different
cultures and places around theworld, and one thing is true,
(01:19):
they all can tap into thatfrequency of their past life
memories.
Johnny Burke (01:24):
The Michael Newton books are pretty mind-blowing
to say the very least, with thelife in between lives.
Did you venture into Reikifirst or did hypnotherapy come
first with you?
Jonathan Robinson (01:35):
Yeah, I think I did Reiki first, so I got a
session done on me, and she wastelling me things about my
energy and body.
I didn't tell her or didn'ttell anyone, and afterward I
felt more like myself.
I felt balanced, my throatchakra was changed, and I became
a believer because she didn'teven put her hands on me.
So then after that I gotcertified, and now whenever I
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think about Reiki, even now Ifeel my hands, the tingly
feeling, it's like a magneticfield around them, and I send
that to my clients a lot too.
Johnny Burke (02:05):
Does the Reiki compliment the hypnotherapy,
especially if they go into theirpast lives or not necessarily?
Jonathan Robinson (02:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Distance Reiki works as good asin person, a lot of people say,
and I think it compliments andhelps.
Not a lot of people line up atyour door for Reiki yet, but I
think everyone should learn it,just like everyone should learn
breath work and meditation andReiki.
It feels like magic almost, butit's scientifically proven to
help people heal faster and allthat.
(02:33):
And Reiki is actually beingused in hospitals these days,
isn't it?
Yeah, in surgery and hospitals,and it's uh more well known
too.
But i the thing is not a lot ofpeople come to me for that, so
I just include it in thesessions.
Johnny Burke (02:48):
When you started as a hypnotherapist, do you
remember the first experiencewhen one of your clients went
into a past life?
Jonathan Robinson (02:55):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Even my first sessions, I wasso blown away by it working.
I was like, now I just know andexpect it to work because I
have such a high success rate.
But at first I was like, Idon't know, is this gonna work?
What's gonna happen?
But some of my first sessionswere uh amazing just because of
the spiritual people that I didit with, and one of them went
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back to the past life beforethey were even in physical form.
They wanted to know where theycame from, I think was her
intention.
And she was this energy beingon a planet like Krypton, and
she could teleport and move.
She didn't have a body, she wasjust an energy like orb.
She said it was very boring,though.
She said it was very neutral,there's no highs or lows or
(03:40):
emotions, it's very boring, andso I said, All right, we'll go
to an exciting day.
So she went to a day where thelight came down from the sky and
it made her an offer.
Four of them got offered toincarnate as a physical being,
and she accepted, as well asfour others, and they shipped
them off to other star system orplanets, and she got attuned to
(04:01):
Earth's frequency, because youneed to be attuned to the
Schumann resonance or thefrequency of Earth, and then she
began to incarnate.
When she first started, though,it was challenging because
Earth school is very tough andshe wasn't used to it.
But after a while, afterseveral dozen or hundreds of
lives, she's better now, so ittakes a while.
Johnny Burke (04:21):
So maybe we shouldn't be aspiring to be
energy beings right away.
So that goes way back intotime, or did that particular
life go into a space where timeis not as we know it here on
Earth?
Jonathan Robinson (04:34):
Yeah, it's time is all happening at once,
they say, in the spirit world.
Is it past lives or is itparallel lives?
Is it, you know, all happeningat once?
They all kind of intersect.
So it's hard concept for ushumans to comprehend because we
see a story, you know,beginning, middle, and end, and
baby, adult, and grandpa.
So it we just call it pastlives for convenience.
Johnny Burke (04:54):
Any client experiences on other planets
where maybe they were from thePleiades or Sirius or something
like that?
Jonathan Robinson (05:03):
Yeah, yep.
I've had several past lives gooff planet.
Now, most people aren't readyfor that.
So my clients, it depends howready they are for that, because
it could be jarring or thehigher self will only show you
what you're ready to see andwill most benefit you.
So typically we go toearth-bound past lives, but for
some of my clients, maybe peoplelistening can relate.
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If you don't feel like you'refrom here, you feel alone, or
you know, you don't fit in,those were the clients that
ended up going to off-planetpast lives where there was red
skies and two suns and humanoid,reptilian, different beings
with blue skin, all live inharmony together.
And the cool thing is that whenI went to a spiritual day,
(05:48):
spiritual day was them around afire chanting and connecting
with source, like meditation.
So even on other planets, wehave to connect with that
source, have to feel the blissand have that life force coming
through us.
Johnny Burke (06:01):
So that definitely does not sound boring.
That sounds pretty interesting,I think.
Jonathan Robinson (06:05):
Oh, yeah.
Cars that fly, holograms,technology that probably we used
to have during Atlantis andEgyptian the rise, but now it's
coming back, hopefully.
Johnny Burke (06:17):
That's what I keep hearing.
Speaking of Atlantis, Egypt,and possibly even Lemuria, any
client experiences, or for thatmatter, any experiences of your
own from that era?
Jonathan Robinson (06:28):
Yeah, Atlantis and Lemuria are pretty
far back.
So typically we remember themost recent past lives.
Now, children oftentimes whohave night terrors or tell their
parents, remember when we wereJapanese and I was the dad, like
a four-year-old, Jim Tucker hastwo books, lots of cases of
children's past lives, where youcan look up the family and the
(06:49):
address, and like a detective,they can find it.
And how is a child getting thisinformation?
So people believe the childrenmore than my clients who are
adults.
So children remember their mostrecent past lives.
Typically, my clients go to themost recent ones.
Those are the ones mostaffecting us now.
So it's rare that we will goall the way back to Lemeria or
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Egypt or uh Atlantis.
However, many sessions havegone to Egypt because that was
more recent.
And Egypt was lush.
It was not a desert, it was aforest, it was a jungle, there
was water everywhere, there wasgold and crystals on the
pyramids, and they used magic,they used Reiki, they used all
kinds of things, and it wasmuch, much different.
(07:31):
They would put Reiki energyinto crystals, they'll wrap it
in leaves, and give it to peopleto help heal them.
The priestesses would and thepriests.
So Egypt was very magicalplace.
Johnny Burke (07:43):
It sounds like there is definitely a connection
between Egypt and I guess alater version of Atlantis.
Did you or your clients eversee evidence of that?
Jonathan Robinson (07:53):
Yeah, yeah.
So I had one client who was inAtlantis, and she was like a
premonition person who wouldhave dreams of the future, and
she went to an important daywhere she saw that Atlantis was
gonna flood or something bad wasgonna happen, she said.
I said, Well, what do you do?
She says, I try to warneveryone, but they're not
(08:14):
listening, they're not payingattention.
I said, What do you do?
Well, I take my family on boatsand we leave.
Many, many other people leave,but a lot of people chose to
stay.
And they went to Egypt andStonehenge and other parts of
the world, and they broughttheir crystals with them to
Egypt and stuff, but a lot ofpeople uh just stayed and it
(08:35):
when it crashed it fell, andsome people escaped, but not
everyone.
Johnny Burke (08:39):
And a lot of them did migrate to Egypt, I imagine.
At least that's what I'm told.
Jonathan Robinson (08:44):
Yes.
A lot of them.
So my client did, actually.
So she went there and helpedEgypt rise and then it was the
next Mecca, beautiful, and theybrought their crystals there and
technology and helped them.
Johnny Burke (08:56):
When you're in a session with a client and they
go back to a certain life,wherever it is, whether it's
fifteenth century England or anancient civilization, are you
actually able to share theexperience or are you more like
the messenger?
Jonathan Robinson (09:12):
A lot of people do get visions with me
and they're in the scene.
So I walk them through the mostmeaningful moments.
If there's any traumaticsituations, we handle that
together, we heal from it, werelease it, whatever's holding
them back.
Yeah, they're in the scene, soit's very meaningful.
Unlike uh maybe an AkashicRecords reading where a psychic
would be telling you, here'swhat happened, my clients are
(09:35):
viewing them.
They're both good, but uh thisway they're more connected.
Johnny Burke (09:39):
Have you done Akashic Records readings in the
past, or do you just stick tothe hypnotherapy and the reiki?
Jonathan Robinson (09:45):
I don't do them.
I don't facilitate them, but Ihave gotten them on me, and I
found them a hit or misssometimes.
Some of them have been reallyamazing, others when I didn't
connect too much.
Johnny Burke (09:55):
Have you had any past life experiences of your
own?
Jonathan Robinson (09:57):
Yes.
Yeah.
So I was in India, the country,as a woman.
So we can be male or female,rich and poor.
We change bodies and culturesto learn different lessons.
And we've all been male andfemale, believe it or not.
So most of the time we come inwith both energies, though.
And so as an Indian woman, Iwas there, and my father was
(10:20):
like not a king, but maybe morewealthy, took care of, owned a
lot of businesses, and I was awoman in my brother in that
lifetime was my younger sisterin this lifetime.
And so that explained thatrelationship dynamic I have with
my sister.
It's a butting heads a littlebit, but uh we're good now and
stuff.
She was the older brother and aman back then, and she would
(10:42):
get all the credit for things,and and I think I fell off a
roof or something, becausewhenever I think about going
near a ledge, uh my heart startsbeating, racing.
And uh in this life I almostfell off a ladder a few times,
so either I fell off a horse andgot trampled or fell off a
roof.
So fears, phobias, andbirthmarks that are unexplained
(11:03):
can come from our past lifetraumas if it's an emotional
situation with a traumaticscene.
Johnny Burke (11:09):
Now, your sister in this life, is she aware that
you two shared a past life?
She's open and supportive, butshe's not that into this type of
stuff.
You've never had thatdiscussion or you have, and she
just says, Yeah, sure, Jonathan,whatever you say.
How did that go?
Jonathan Robinson (11:26):
The latter.
I joke around and she likeagrees, but it's kind of casual.
Johnny Burke (11:31):
How common is it with your clients to have a
session and then recognizesomeone from a past life?
Jonathan Robinson (11:39):
Yeah, I would say fifty percent of the time.
I don't always ask thatquestion, but if they want to
know more about their soul groupor soul family, that's a group
of about 20.
It could be more, depends onhow many people you interact
with, but there's a soul orspirit family that we choose to
incarnate with each other toteach each other lessons.
We switch roles and places,maybe one life, you're the man
(12:01):
in the relationship, then thenext one, they're the woman,
father, daughter, scenarios,cousins, uncles.
So they know.
I'm like, does this personremind you of any life?
You're like, oh yeah, itreminds me of this person.
Not the way they look, but theessence of that of them, the
energy will they'll know.
Johnny Burke (12:19):
What you're talking about is when we plan
our lives before we incarnate.
I take it that your clientshave experienced that in-between
life state where they visitwith their soul group or their
soul family and they discusswho's going to inhabit what body
and in what role.
Is that true?
Jonathan Robinson (12:37):
Yeah.
Yeah.
In fact, I just did a sessionwith a psychic.
I do sessions with a lot ofspiritual people, including
psychics, because even I do afew sessions a year that I'm the
client because we can't alwaysfacilitate our own healing if
there's emotions and situationsthat occur.
So a lot of psychics are reallygood at this because they're
really in it.
They could get really clearvisions.
(12:58):
And yeah, he wanted to go to inbetween lives.
Typically, I bring him to apast life first, then after the
death scene, we go up, up, up tothe spirit world.
It's not a destination, it'smore of a realm.
So, yeah, he went up, his wholebody was vibrating at a high
frequency, felt very connected.
There was a s golden stairsinto a temple, and in the temple
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there was a big statue, liketen feet tall.
And the statue started moving,and the statue was his spirit
guide.
I've had that happen beforewhen someone else went to a
goddess Athena's temple.
She was a statue, but then shestarted moving.
So the statue started movingand was giving him information
(13:40):
and sending him messages andlove, showing him what's
possible with his current life,what the future holds, giving
him reassurance.
He said cycles of nine allthroughout his life.
He started boxing when he wasnine, he did something else when
he was eighteen.
Another chapter unfolded whenhe was twenty-seven, so these
(14:01):
numbers, cycles, uh, areprevalent, and he's aware of
that now.
Johnny Burke (14:06):
That sounds very similar to a near-death
experience, only we don't haveto crack up a car or clinically
die to actually get there.
Do you see the parallels?
Or has anybody ever had an NDEand then reported a similar
experience in one of yoursessions?
Jonathan Robinson (14:22):
Yeah, and NDEs validate past lives because
similar situations happen afterthe death scene.
We float above the body, we'remet with by our spirit, guide
our loved one, and then fromthere we go to an attuning
center to be healed from earth.
Trauma, we do a life review,you know, audit of what we did
good and bad.
(14:42):
There's no counsel, there is nohell.
I at least I haven't found ityet.
And no uh purgatory where we'retortured forever, sorry.
Church.
That was actually one of hisquestions, because as a psychic,
he is demonized by the Bible,really Bible people.
It's unfortunate because theysay he's talking to demons.
But in a past life, he was apastor of a church who was
(15:07):
amazing, and actually, pastorsof churches used to be psychics
that would get messages from thedivine, and that's how they
would give their sermons, theywould channel that.
Now, what happened?
I think this is what happened.
People that weren't psychics ortapped in became pastors.
They were jealous of the peoplethat could channel, and they
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demonized it because they saidyou're talking to demons, and
it's not true.
Johnny Burke (15:33):
Very interesting.
It's the first time I've heardthat.
In your exploration of pastlives, did you ever get a sense
that we as humans had abilitiesthousands of years ago?
Let's say in Atlantis, wheretelepathy was normal, being
psychic was normal.
Jonathan Robinson (15:50):
Yeah, that's a question I often ask is when
they're doing Reiki and soundhealing and levitating even in
their meditations.
I ask, can we do that today?
Can we still do that?
And they always say, Yes, youcan, but you just didn't learn
how.
If you teach a kid Reiki ormeditation, or they're even
teaching kids remote viewingwith the telepathy tapes with
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the autistic nonverbal children,it's just normal for them.
There's no limitations.
It's just we didn't learn it asa young age, so we didn't work
that muscle out in our mind.
Johnny Burke (16:20):
Okay, so how long ago was this?
What, 300 years ago, 400 yearsago, when the pastors were able
to channel source to givesermons, but we got to a point
in our civilization where weeither don't know how to do it
or we forgot how to do it.
Which would it be?
Jonathan Robinson (16:38):
The thing is, there always has been and there
always is channelers, mediums,and psychics.
It'd be weird if there wasn't,because they've always been
around.
I think people were more tappedin way back in Egypt, and it
was more accepted.
Now you kind of have to be aspecial person to not be shut
down by parents and society andhide your gifts.
(17:00):
I believe as things get morepopular, the church
organization, I love allreligions by the way, no
knocking anything, but assomething gets more popular, the
wrong people start to take itover and they veer it in the
wrong direction.
Johnny Burke (17:15):
So it if a pastor, for instance, is talking about
demons, chances are he's notreally connected with anything.
Jonathan Robinson (17:22):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fear-mongering,right?
Anything that's fear iscontraction.
It should be abundance andlove, that's expansion.
So if they're telling you tofear something, I don't think
that's right.
Johnny Burke (17:32):
No, it isn't.
It's not really connected toanything.
Or is it?
Could they be connected to amischievous spirit, or could
they be just plain jealous, likeyou said earlier?
Jonathan Robinson (17:43):
Even the Lucifer angel, uh it was like
the angel of mischief, and hewould play tricks on people.
Everything has a place.
It's a challenge that we needto overcome.
It it served a purpose.
It's not always, you know, goodor bad or right or wrong.
Johnny Burke (17:56):
So when someone goes into the in-between life
space from a past life wherethey die, some people report
seeing demons, some peoplereport seeing Jesus.
Could it be that simple thatthey just see what they want to
see and it's manifested, or notnecessarily?
Jonathan Robinson (18:13):
I have a good answer for that.
So the spirit beings willpresent themselves as what looks
familiar to the person.
So if they're actuallyPleiadian or aliens from a
different star system, theywon't present themselves as
their true form.
They'll present themselves assomething that's familiar so it
doesn't freak us out.
So that often happens when myclients are ready, they'll see
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the mantis beings, they'll seeblue beings, humanoid beings.
But if they're not ready,they'll present themselves as a
familiar family member orsomething of that sort.
Johnny Burke (18:44):
So being ready, meaning let's say if I go into a
session and I see that being,that means I already have a
memory of it and it's not gonnafreak me out and it's
acceptable.
Jonathan Robinson (18:55):
Yeah, they would present themselves as its
true form because it knowsyou're ready for it.
It'll only show you what you'reready to see.
And that's common with thesesessions.
I don't guide the clients, Ihave them write down a list of
questions that they want to getanswered, and I will, you know,
guide if I need to, but thehigher self is brilliant.
It knows exactly what to showthem.
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It won't show you anythingyou're not ready to see, it'll
only show you what'll benefityou, and it has a magical way of
answering all those intentionsand showing you reflections of
your current life challenges inyour past life memories.
Johnny Burke (19:28):
So the higher self, I believe, sometimes gets
confused with a spirit guide, orare they the same thing?
What's been your experience?
Jonathan Robinson (19:37):
I believe that yeah, they're different.
Uh spirit guide is a differententity or being that's of white
light, it's very loving andsupportive and guiding, and it's
assigned.
Everyone is assigned a spiritguide.
Our higher self is like afuture version of us that's
projecting its consciousnessback into us to help guide us,
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and we can only take a fractionof that light or that energy
right now in our dense physicalform.
And so our higher self is thefull potential of the version of
us in the future.
Johnny Burke (20:10):
We're also starting to hear about future
life progression.
Jonathan Robinson (20:14):
Yes.
It's just as easy as past lifeprogression.
Some people bounce thereautomatically.
I don't try, but I did asession last week with that and
went, had him go to a futurelife 2110.
And the first thing he said is,Oh, global warming doesn't kill
us.
Because that was, you know, afear-mongering thing.
Cars that could fly cities,anti-gravity cities.
(20:35):
So if the weather's bad inPortland, you could go to
Seattle or California, you couldmove it around, there's less
pollution.
There's holographic technologyall over.
We don't integrate with AI asfar as in our body, so that's
good.
Thank God.
Enough of that already.
Can we teleport?
You know, I think they move sofast on the anti-gravity ships
(20:56):
that w uh weave throughspace-time that they don't need
it because they could justalready go so fast.
Johnny Burke (21:01):
So you can go back and forth between LA and New
York, and it's just like a busride almost.
Jonathan Robinson (21:07):
Very, very, very quickly.
Yeah, they have the technologynow.
We're hearing about all theseUFO scientists that are being
shut down, and I think it'sbecause they have the
technology, but it's aboutmoney.
The oil and gas industry wouldgo completely under, and what if
someone uses it for a weapon?
That's why they're notdisclosing it yet.
Johnny Burke (21:26):
Speaking of disclosure, with your experience
of the past life sessions andthose people that bring up
galactic past lives and soforth, has that given you any
insight into disclosure whenit's going to be it's no longer
a question that there are aliensamong us.
Jonathan Robinson (21:42):
Yeah, and if they wanted to wipe us out, they
could have.
I think they're friendly.
I do regression to abductions,and typically it's friendly.
They're checking on their ownkind, monitoring them, giving
them downloads and putting themback.
Why else would they let us liveor put us back?
They have the technology towipe us out.
That was interesting because.
Because it was like a futureversion of them or their higher
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self was the one abductingthemselves and putting them
back.
So we are not allowed tointerfere unless we ask.
But yeah, I think they'realready among us.
They're just beyond thephysical veil of sight.
They're beyond that physicalspectrum.
And some of them look similarto us, and some people can see
them, other people can't.
(22:24):
The ones that can, but theywill know if you can see them,
and they will try to projecttelepathically, like to distract
you so you won't notice them.
So it's almost like they don'tneed a disguise.
They just shift your mindtowards something else without
you noticing because they're soadvanced.
Johnny Burke (22:42):
I've always been told that they've been here the
whole time when some of us arewaiting for perhaps a ship from
Pleiades or Venus for thatmatter to come down with these
beautiful Nordic looking peoplethat are seven feet tall.
That might happen, but we'rebeing told that there's gonna be
an event in the next year ortwo where they're gonna make
themselves very visible.
(23:03):
Have you been told the samething or not really?
Jonathan Robinson (23:06):
I hope it's not a distraction or a fake
alien invasion to unite us forwar or something.
I'm always open-minded to it.
We're definitely not alone, andI think they're friendly.
I think they're trying to helpus.
Johnny Burke (23:17):
Hopefully that's true.
I would think based on thestories or accounts, most of
them are.
I think it's a matter ofraising our vibration to a
certain point where the not sofriendly ones can't stay here
anymore.
But that's probably adiscussion for another day.
In your experience, what do youthink is the most important
thing that you've learned sofar?
Jonathan Robinson (23:36):
Yeah, oh man.
I learn every week, every day.
That's why I love what I do.
Every session's different, it'suh spontaneous, it's improv.
I don't know if you're gonnaend up in a battlefield or
another planet or desert or anocean.
And then we go from there.
A lot of these sessions show mereflections of my own
challenges in the sessions,because that's the way the
(23:56):
universe works.
Bringing them the right peopleat the right time.
I hope people can get from thiswork that to not fear death.
It's not the end.
We transition, we go on.
And I think a lot of this couldhelp with the disclosure too,
is realizing that we do havepast lives.
We've been male and female, alldifferent cultures, so we don't
(24:17):
need to discriminate if someonelooks different.
We accept people for who theyare and their energy and essence
and merit, not what theirphysical appearance is.
And if we understand that, thenthe disclosure part.
If I saw an alien, I probablywouldn't treat them any
different than a person becausethey deserve to be treated just
as good.
If I see a millionaire or apoor person, I treat them with
(24:39):
kindness and love and respect.
A lot of people will treat themillionaire nicer because they
value, oh, this person might beable to help me with something
or do something, and the poorperson can't.
And they'll change the way theytreat people.
Well, we should treat everyonethe same with love and respect.
Johnny Burke (24:55):
I can't disagree with that, but I definitely
acknowledge that past lives andnear-death experience survivors
can tell us a lot about thosebig questions you mentioned
before.
Why are we here?
What's the purpose?
What really happens when wedie?
I think it's going to be a lotmore popular in the future.
I think it's going to get somemomentum.
(25:16):
You agree?
Jonathan Robinson (25:17):
It's even growing now.
A lot of my clients are like,I've been wanting to do this for
years, I just can't find anyonein my area.
And it's the beauty of onlinework is whether you're in person
or online, your eyes are closedafter the first minute.
So it's I'm right there.
You have the safety and comfortof your own environment, and I
record the audio, send you itafter, so it's just as good.
(25:38):
So I found a lot of root causesof fears and phobias, even
birthmarks with no explanation,forever feelings, and just
little flashbacks, a deja vu.
If you feel called, do it.
Try it out, read a few books,do a session or two, and it's
gonna be very great forspiritual growth.
Johnny Burke (25:57):
Interesting stuff.
So, what else do we need toknow, at least for tonight?
Reach out to me.
Jonathan Robinson (26:02):
I do free introductory calls, meet people
from all over.
I do one-on-one sessions,multiple sessions, whether
that's for trauma in this lifeor past lives.
Overcoming that with hypnosisis the easiest, efficient, most
effective way to get past thoseblocks.
I teach hypnotherapy, so I do acourse, kind of like QHHT or a
(26:23):
hypnosis course.
So you learn hypnotherapy, pastlives, trauma release, all that
fun stuff.
You'll be a confident,certified hypnotherapist by the
end of it.
I have an app coming out calledJourneys into the subconscious,
which is a hypnotherapy app.
Nothing else like it on themarket.
It is gonna have past lives,daily sessions, really cool
stuff on that.
(26:44):
I'll let you guys know when itcomes out.
And I do this remotely fromanywhere.
Johnny Burke (26:49):
Alright, good.
So in the meantime, how can ourlisteners find you online?
Jonathan Robinson (26:53):
Journeys into Past Lives.
So Journeys into Past Lives,Instagram, YouTube, website, all
the socials.
Johnny Burke (27:01):
You've been listening to Closer to Venus,
I'm Johnny Burke.
If you enjoyed tonight'sepisode, please consider
subscribing.
In the meantime, you can findmore info at closer to
Venus.com.
Thanks again for tuning in, andwe'll see you next time.
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