Host Rev. Sean Smith and guests Rev. Jonathan Fisk, Rev. Peter Ill, and Peter Slayton discuss Articles VII & VIII (IV): The Church in the Apology of the Augsburg Confession. Today’s conversation covers justification in action as God’s Church, hypocrisy in the church, talking about virgins, and finding Jesus in action. Rev. Sean Smith is pastor of Immanuel-Campbell Hill and St. Paul-Wine Hill, Illinois. Rev. Jonathan Fisk is host of His Time and Cross Defense on Worldwide KFUO. Rev. Peter Ill is Senior Pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church in Millstadt, Illinois. Peter Slayton is Social Media Manager for the LCMS.