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Cut The Tie Podcast with Patrice Lynn
What happens when you have spent decades trusting yourself, building skills, and creating your own path, and then you realize it is time to walk away again, even without a clear plan?

In this episode of Cut The Tie, Thomas Helfrich sits down with Patrice Lynn, a lifelong entrepreneur, trainer, and personal development expert who is leaving her State of California role after five years, pension secured, and stepping into a wide-open next chapter. Patrice shares why cutting the tie feels different as you get older, how fear shows up in more subtle ways, and why trusting yourself becomes even more important in your second or third act.

This conversation is about courage without chaos, adventure without recklessness, and choosing alignment over comfort when the stakes feel higher than they used to.

About Patrice Lynn:
Patrice Lynn is a lifelong entrepreneur, speaker, and coach with a career rooted in personal and professional development. She has designed and delivered training programs for organizations ranging from global corporations to independent teams, and she was selected as one of the first independent consultants to teach The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People shortly after the book’s release. Patrice is the author of Rise to Success: The Secret Power of Your Brain to Change Your Life, where she teaches practical tools for rewiring mindset, overcoming fear, and creating meaningful change.

In this episode, Thomas and Patrice discuss:

Why cutting the tie feels harder with age
Patrice explains how responsibility, comfort, and identity make change more complex later in life, even for someone who has always taken risks.

Leaving the “safe” job on your own terms
She shares why she chose to stay long enough to earn a pension and why walking away now feels both terrifying and freeing.

The moments that quietly shape your path
From discovering The Power of Positive Thinking in a small-town Texas library to being invited to teach Stephen Covey’s work, Patrice reflects on pivotal moments that changed everything.

Why community matters more than success
She looks back on owning a bar and restaurant in Montana as one of the happiest seasons of her life and explains why connection often disappears as careers advance.

Key Takeaways:
Change does not get easier with age, but it gets clearer
You know yourself better now. Trust that experience.

Security and freedom do not have to be opposites
Sometimes staying is strategic, and leaving is the real win.

You do not need a perfect plan to move forward
Momentum creates clarity, not the other way around.

Gratitude quiets fear
Focusing on what is already working creates the emotional space to build what comes next.

Connect with Patrice Lynn:
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricelynn/
🌐 Website: https://patricelynn.com

Connect with Thomas Helfrich:
🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/thelfrich
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thelfrich/
🌐 Website: https://www.cutthetie.com
📧 Email: t@instantlyrelevant.com
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome to the Cut the Tie Podcast.
Hello, I'm your host, ThomasHelfrick, and I'm on a mission
to help you cut the tie towhatever it is holding you back
from your success, the one thatyou defined, not somebody else.
And today I am joined by PatriceLynn.
Patrice, how are you?

SPEAKER_00 (00:14):
I'm doing great.
And I love the theme of yourpodcast, Cut the Tie, because
actually I have been anentrepreneur all my life.
I've had a lot of contracts thatI've done for because my whole
thing has been training,coaching, and designing
training.
That's what I've done my wholelife.

(00:34):
And um, so sometimes I get bigcontracts with, you know,
companies like, you know, AMWAor, you know, Cooper's and
Librant, different, you know,things like that.
Uh, but most of the time I'vebeen entrepreneur, just teaching
seminars and doing coaching.
I've done a lot of coaching.
But I recently took a job at thestate of California where I've

(00:59):
been helping run the leadershipacademy.
So I've been there five yearsand I'm so excited to leave.
I had to, if I if I stayed fiveyears, I actually got a pension,
believe it or not.
It's not very big, but you know,it's a pension.
They're gonna pay me the rest ofmy life for working there five
years.

(01:19):
And my neck my last day is nextweek.
So this is very appropriate.
I'm so happy and ready to cutthe tie.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
Oh, congratulations for that.
Uh in your coach, so so youcurrently have a coaching
business going, or are you gonnago back to it?

SPEAKER_00 (01:36):
I'm gonna go back to it.
I have I I did do some of itwhile I was working at the
state, but in in the last yearor two, I haven't really done
that much.

SPEAKER_01 (01:47):
And listen, I and what I love to have on the show
are people wherever they are intheir journey, where you've been
an entrepreneur whole life, um,it sounds like you had an
entrepreneur mindset in what youwere doing next.
Up and there's there's all kindsof reasons that people to be
clear, like I loveentrepreneurship.
Someone offers me the right W-2job, I know how to make this
thing a side hustle if I had toand collect money because it's
to me, it's just another client.

(02:08):
That's how I would look at it.
I would not have the mindsetthat I'm here forever.
It's a one-year, two-year, maybelonger client, and it pays well
and it requires a lot of mytime.
But every job on the planet Iknow does not require all of my
time.
100%.

unknown (02:21):
That's right.

SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
There'd be plenty of room for me to do other things.
That's a great mindset to have.
Anyone listening working, buildyour own business.
But talk to me about why peopleare going to pick you on your
new coaching business.

SPEAKER_00 (02:33):
Well, I haven't totally decided yet that that's
what I'm gonna do.
I I really haven't.
So I'm I'm at a definitely acrossroads of what am I gonna do
next?
I mean, I have a lot of thoughtsof, you know, moving somewhere
exotic or somewhere like Europeand living somewhere where, you

(02:55):
know, I don't have to reallythink much about money.
So I haven't really, I haven'treally got clarity because yeah,
I'm leaving my job.
I'm moving out of the house thatI've been living in, and uh I
don't even know what's gonnahappen next.
But the fun thing is, I've beenthis year, I've been revisiting
some things that were reallysignificant for me.

(03:17):
So uh I started my whole careerin personal and professional
development.
It was kind of a fluke because Igraduated from college, and um,
the last thing on my mind was toget the government job that my
dad wanted me to have.
But I I'm so glad that I finallysqueezed in five years at the
government because my dad was upthere.

(03:39):
Thank you, thank you for doingthat.
But I ended up uh going on anadventure with some people I met
to sell timeshare of all thingsin Marlboro Falls, Texas.
And while there, the this youknow, kind of
pseudo-relationship that I hadwith the guy that I went with

(04:00):
kind of fell apart.
And I ended up uh moving into acondo next to the condo that all
of us had been living in.
And I was at this like, like,oh, what am I, what am I doing?
This is so sad.
I was so upset that everythingwas like, this isn't working
out.
So I actually had taken my bike.
I started riding my bike when Iwas six years old and I never

(04:23):
stopped.
So I still ride my bikeeverywhere.
And I rode my bike into MarbleFalls, Texas, and I went to the
library, and literally this bookjumped off the shelf, The Power
of Positive Thinking by NormanVincent Peale.
And I read that book, and it itwas a life-changing experience

(04:45):
because he said, you know, yourthoughts are your own, and it
doesn't matter what situationyou're in, it's how you think,
it's your mindset, it's how youdeal with it, is going to get
you success.
And it was the first time I'dever heard anything like that.
And recently I thought howinteresting it was that that was

(05:06):
at a certain point in my life,and then 10 years later, I
launched my business teachingseminars and doing consulting,
coaching, and personal andprofessional development.
But that was a pivotal time.
And I actually went back therein February of this year because
I have a niece that lives inAustin.
And so I went back there and Iwent, I tried to get my niece

(05:29):
and her husband and my sister togo to this town, Marble Falls.
I kind of explained it, but theythey just weren't interested.
So I ended up renting a car andgoing myself and seeing the
condo, seeing the place I wasat.
And actually, I ended up leavingthe timeshare thing because even
though they thought I was goingto be good at it, I was

(05:50):
terrible.
And I got a job as a cocktailwaitress at this resort on the
lake.
Now that I was really good atbecause I've done that my whole
life.
And so I went to the restaurantwhere I was a cocktail waitress,
and and now it's just thisfabulous resort.
And it was just so fun to, youknow, retrace my steps and go

(06:11):
back and experience that time inmy life, which was pivotal and
it it set me on the path.
And, you know, when I decided tostart my own business, I was
living in Bozeman, Montana.
And I um I took a whole month tothink about well, what is it I
love to do?

(06:31):
What am I naturally good at?
You know, how can I servepeople?
How can I help people?
And when it was all when themonth was said and done, and I
read a bunch of books and I dida bunch of things like, you
know, activities that were indifferent books that I was
reading.
And I came out the other end andI decided I was gonna start my

(06:53):
own seminar business.
And I started with timemanagement and office
organization, and nobody inBozeman Maxianos at that time
was doing anything like that.
And the people that knew me werelike, oh, you're gonna be so
great at this.
And and they thought it was awonderful idea.

(07:13):
And then the people that didn'tknow me were like, you're gonna
do what?
That's that's the dumbest thingI've ever heard.
But it, you know, it worked out.
It worked out, and and the crazything was within a year or a
year and a half, I was invitedto be one of the first five
independent consultants to teachthe seven habits of highly

(07:34):
effective people.
It was right when the book hadjust come out, and I got to meet
Stephen Cummy, and I got to dothat.
And so that really launched meinto a really unique part of my
career.
So it's been it was fun, youknow, this year.
And then and then recently I andthis all ties into cutting the

(07:55):
tie, right?
Because I know I didn't knowwhat I was gonna do when I went
to Texas from Montana and to godo this thing, and then it fell
apart, but then I read this bookand I started doing what I was
good at, and you know, it was agreat experience.
And so recently I did anothertracing back in time, and what I

(08:18):
did is well, Memorial Day, Itook my first trip up to the
coast of California, uh, wherethere's a park, a national park
called Redwood National Park.
And I went on a trip with these50 people at this group called
OTP, Ocean to Peak Adventures.

(08:39):
And it was so much fun becausethey organized it and we camped
out.
We all camped out in a bigmeadow, 50 of us, and we uh went
to the ocean and we saw thewhales, and then we went to the
redwood forest and saw the hugeredwood trees, and we saw elk,
and I mean it was justfantastic.
And so when I was up there, Istarted thinking about that when

(09:03):
I when I first moved out toMontana to go to college.
I grew up in Ohio and I moved toMontana, and I I started looking
at the map, and I was like, oh,I'm so much closer to
California.
I've never been to California,but I've heard so much about it
because you know, from Ohio,you're a long way from
California.

(09:24):
So I didn't have a car though.
I was going to college, myparents were putting me through
school, and I'm like, well, Ithink I'll just hitchhike to
California.
And so I did.
What?

SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
Oh my word.

SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
I know.

SPEAKER_01 (09:41):
Kids, if you're listening to this, not
recommended from the share.

SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
Not today, no.
This was a long time ago.

SPEAKER_01 (09:47):
I mean, that's what the best serial killer's role I
was back then, too.
Keep in mind, it was probablynot a good idea then.
You just didn't have one.

SPEAKER_00 (09:54):
I've always been courageous, I've always been,
you know, had no fear, and Ijust go through life that way,
and it, you know, it's workedout.
Adventure has always been mynumber one value, not money, not
stability, having adventure.
And I've had a lot ofadventures.
So there was a segment of thishitchhiking journey that uh

(10:18):
between San Luis Obispo and SanFrancisco on the coast, and this
guy picked me up, and then therewere two kids.
I say kids, I was young, butthey were younger, and uh I was
19 and they were like 15 and 16,and they were at their
skateboards, and they he pickedthem up, and the three of us

(10:38):
decided we wanted to camp outtogether, but we didn't have
anybody to camp or you know, getinto a park or pay for camping.
So somehow we made our way tothis place, big Sir, Julia
Pfeiffer, Big Sir State Park.
Oh, there you go, big sir.
It's so awesome there.

(11:00):
Have you been to that park?
Oops, sir, muted.
You're okay.

SPEAKER_01 (11:07):
I got drinking.
We just got back, we were justout there, so I have my hat.

SPEAKER_00 (11:12):
Did you go to the Julia Pfeiffer's big sur state
park?

SPEAKER_01 (11:15):
We we went to a bunch of state parks, walking on
beaches and trails, and I don'tknow, we went a lot of places.
It's funny to have that hatright here as you said that.

SPEAKER_00 (11:23):
That is so cool.
I love it.
It's beautiful there, and so thethis is the funny part of the
story is the three of us, youknow, we decided we're gonna go
on adventure, and uh, but wedidn't have any money really.
And so we ended up finding aredwood tree in this park.
So and and the and we ended upsleeping out.

(11:46):
It was like a burnt-out redwoodtree, but it had a door and it
had a window, and it had enoughroom on the bottom of it for the
three of us to put out oursleepy bags and sleep in the
tree.
So that's what we did.
So when I was up at the RedwoodPark Memorial Day and seeing all
these trees, I startedremembering that experience.

(12:09):
And I'm like, I need to go outthere because I may leave
California.
I don't know what I'm doing.
I may go out there and um findthat tree.
And so two weeks ago, I went tothe coast and I actually found
the tree that we slept it andthe the Julia Pfeiffer Big Surf

(12:29):
state park.

SPEAKER_01 (12:29):
Did you take the no?
I don't know if you're still incontact with that group, but no,
no, I never saw those peopleagain.
That day, and they were like, Iwonder where she is.
I always wanted to ask her outor something.
Who knows?
All right.
Well, let me ask, let me let mecome to so you're happy.
You're an adventurer type,you're about to go on a new
adventure.
Yeah, slightly different showthan normal.

(12:50):
So let me let me ask you thisquestion that's what tie
metaphorically today are youstruggling to cut about your new
adventure that's unknown aboutto begin?
What what what's the one thingholding you back right now?

SPEAKER_00 (13:03):
Well, it is a little harder as you get older to just
move, you know, pick up andmove.
And so I have I live in thisreally cool house and I really
like it, but you know, I justI'm ready for a change.
And um so cutting the tieactually is so important.

(13:24):
I mean, leaving the job, leavingthe house, not knowing where I'm
going.
And that's why I told you thesestories from my past, because in
those moments I didn't knowwhere I was going or what I was
doing next.
But I just I just trusted itwould work out.
I just believed it would workout, and it did.

(13:45):
And I had a lot of cooladventures as a result of it,
yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess just only because I'mgetting older is it harder, you
know, but it shouldn't be.
I'm trying to, I'm trying torecapture that mindset from when

(14:06):
I was, you know, a teenager andhad all these other, you know,
or early 20s and had theseexperiences where I just took a
risk, took a leap, and launchedin, you know.
And of course, I have moreresources now than I did before.

(14:28):
So, but it's still, you know,that's the only thing, is just
that little bit of a fear oflike, okay, where what am I
gonna do?
Where am I gonna go?
But I don't know.
I can handle it.

SPEAKER_01 (14:41):
It's you're you're gonna you're gonna find it, find
it out.
Now, in your time, you know, inyour adventures, have you read a
book that you think it's helpfulfor people that want to take
adventure and kind of take arisk on themselves?

SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Well, I wrote a book called Rise to Success, The
Secret Power of Your Brain toChange Your Life.
And in this book, I tell a lotof my stories, like I'm telling
you now.
And I talk about how, you know,RISE is an acronym.
It stands for repetition,images, sound, and emotion.

(15:14):
And so when you repeat what youwant to create over and over and
over, it programs your brain ata subconscious level.
This is what I want to happen.
And then the I is for images, soyou have to imagine it, you have
to see it happening, and mostimportantly, feel what it would

(15:35):
feel like to have it happen.
And then the S is for sound, soyou have to speak it out.
So as I talk about this nextchapter of my life, and my
friends around me are freakingout for me, I'm like, it's good,
I can do it, it's gonna be fine,it's gonna be an adventure.
And then E is for emotion, andthe best emotion to grab a hold

(15:59):
of when you want to make achange in your life is
gratitude.
Um, so being grateful for whatyou do have, and I just have I
have so much to be grateful for,and that's really gonna help me
a lot.
So the brain is very powerful,and fear is the biggest thing we

(16:21):
need to overcome.
And I, you know, by doing thesethings that I outline in my
book, that's really how youovercome the fear, you overcome
the thoughts that it's not gonnawork out, you overcome thinking
about what you don't want tohave happen, and you think about
what you do want to have happen.

(16:42):
So there's that's what I like todo.
I like to do that.
And I I really think I'd reallylike to do get into speaking
more.
I mean, when I when I was youngand I started my business doing
personal professionaldevelopment, and I found out
that not many people like tostand in front of an audience

(17:02):
and talk.
I was like, oh, I love doingthat.
You know, when I was in juniorhigh and I was in church, the
youth that it was youth Sunday,they're like, okay, who wants to
give the sermon?
And I was like, I will.
And all my friends are like,What?
You're gonna give the sermon.

SPEAKER_01 (17:22):
Excuse me.
Uh what?

SPEAKER_00 (17:23):
Yeah, and I like, I'm like, oh yeah, I could do
it.
I've just always had thatconfidence and that ability to
speak extemporaneously and say,hopefully, say something
meaningful.

SPEAKER_01 (17:36):
I know you've already told me this is like
different than what your normalI'd love to hear the story of it
because you know you're you'resorting through what's next and
drawing upon what you why you'rechasing it from the from your
and and um it's kind of like uhyou know, you can never I I
remember playing in the rockswith like little GI Joes and

(17:57):
stuff, and it's like I just knowI'll never have that back.
Like your brain's just not wiredto be in that moment as a child.
And uh sometimes I wonder as ateenager the free spirit you
have in your early 20s, doesthat actually ever return, or is
it just you faking it to findthe best version of what so my
point is that I I I can feelyour struggle as if somebody's

(18:17):
49 and becoming like I wish Icould get some of those things
back, but I don't know if I'mjust wired that way to do that
anymore.
Um that's a struggle becauseit's like oh it's fleeting, it's
I mean it's fleeted, it's gone.
It's it's fast tense, and andit's set to next, and but the
sense of adventure doesn'tchange it in its discovery of

(18:38):
something new.
Do you feel like there's driversbehind that?
Uh, I mean, you I this is uh Imight be opening a door to a
very deep holes here when I askthis question, but um, are there
drivers behind that that makeyou feel compelled to go do
adventure?

SPEAKER_00 (18:55):
Um I think in some ways I am, yes.
I mean, I I love to ski, andskiing is just such an
adventurous sport.
And I don't know, I just feel soalive, you know, flying down the
mountain on my skis.
And like I live in Sacramento,so I go up to Lake Tahoe and

(19:16):
Heavenly, and it was always onmy bucket list to ski at
Heavenly and look down on LakeTahoe.
And I'm here to tell you, it'severything the marketing
materials built it up to be.
It's just spectacular.
So, yeah, I think I'm wired foradventure and and to be out in
nature.
And I I also think that I wantto have more community in my

(19:40):
life.
And um I look back on my lifealso, and I see that the
happiest time in my life waswhen I owned a bar and
restaurant in Montana.
I was married at the time.
It was called the Grizzly Bar.
And we had we had Yellowstonetours because we were like.
30 miles from Yellowstone Park.

(20:02):
We had hunters, fishermen,cattle ranchers.
We had all these like wealthypeople that owned homes around
us and ranches, and they wouldcome in.
And so we had this most eclecticmix of people that would show up
in our bar.
And my husband and I dideverything.
You know, like I worked duringthe day.

(20:22):
You know, people would come in,I'd take their order, then I'd
go back and cook their burgerand then I'd serve it and make
their drinks.
And then people came in for gas,and I had to run over to the gas
pump and turn it on.
I had a resold beer and I usedto go, and we were literally in
the middle of nowhere.
I mean, it was like my friends,you know, that first Raiders of

(20:42):
Lost Art movie where openingscene is in a bar with this
woman at this bar, and they'rethey're like, that's what we
think of, and we think of you inMontana.
I'm like, well, it's not faroff.
So I really want to develop morecommunity.
I really want to be part of acommunity.
I think what happens in theUnited States, we we go along,

(21:03):
and the more successful you are,then the more you want to, you
know, have a house and all thesethings, and you're not
necessarily connected withpeople.

SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
Yeah, you become very lonely.
You become you you find your ownlittle prison.

SPEAKER_00 (21:19):
Yeah, exactly.
So I think that's part of whathappens when you go on
adventures.
Like I did go on one while I waswriting my book.
I moved out of this place.
I was living in Boulder,Colorado, and I had a band, and
I just took off and I went toSedona, I went to south uh

(21:40):
western Colorado, and I I wouldhelp people out and live in
their like you know, guesthouse, or I was in Sedona.
I ended up, I stayed thereseveral months and I rented a
room from one person in theirhouse, and then I rented an
office in another person'shouse, and it was like so

(22:01):
inexpensive, but I had a placeto sleep and shower and eat, and
then I had the uh other placewhere I would had my computer
and I was writing my book, andit was you know, it's like it's
amazing what you can do, butthen I was much more in the
community and connected topeople, so I really want to

(22:21):
create that and you know, moreof that in my life.
And then when it comes tocoaching, I really I had a coach
say, You're a high performancecoach.
That's what you are.
And I was like, What's a highperformance coach?
And I looked it up and I foundthat it's somebody that helps
people bring clarity into theirlife, that helps them bring

(22:43):
courage.
I'm like, oh, I'm currentcourageous, energy.
I have energy, and I've alwayshad energy my whole life, but
that that's like another story.
Um, you know, drive, influence.
How do you influence otherpeople and have you know a
vision?

(23:03):
So I was like, oh, that is kindof cool.

SPEAKER_01 (23:06):
I will I'll throw a curve at you.
I'm I'm listening here.
What would she be really goodat?
I will tell you that you shouldtake your travels, your
adventure, and this will helpyour business too, and document
it with incredible deep yourwriter, so you can do the whole
vlog blog idea.
Do a podcast, YouTube channelwith it of your days, findings

(23:27):
that could be your short, justbecomes routine.
If this is what I did, I saw youclose your day editing it, you
post it, you write it, maybeit's a week long, whatever you
whatever your comfort level is.
Yeah, you just you document whatit is to be a 30-year-old
traveling the world.

SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
30 years old.

SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
I love you.
Thomas, right?
Something I want to make it tooyoung.
Share it because I uh uh and I'myou you can share your age if
you want to, but it only becauseI think it's relevant.
There are a lot of women,there's like you know, uh women
travel alone.
Like my wife, my wife reads mywife reads these.
Um, but like where she has a lotof information about women
traveling, and there's a lot ofgroups that are out there.
And if if you haven't heard ofthat one, I can find it and I'll

(24:08):
send it to you later.

SPEAKER_00 (24:08):
Okay, good.

SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
And that would be a very beneficial thing, and
specifically that you know,there's a business to be made
from doing what you love, and ittakes time with affiliate ads or
this, or you find localrestaurants.
Like, I love the feature youhear, and you just you you can
do things with a podcast,interview people, and just I do
this, I travel.
People would love that.
You'd feel a sense of community,you'd be building a network um

(24:29):
of some acquaintances, somepeople would probably develop
further.
Yeah, but my guess is you'reokay with that kind of
acquaintance.
I haven't seen you in sixmonths.
Love to catch up with you.
Type of there's a lot of groupthat love that.
That's uh I I I'm like that.
I'm I'm I'm trying to developmore friendships deeper.
So I know how you feel withthat, but I know how much fun
that is to have a group that youfeel connected to loosely, and
they feel the same way.

(24:50):
And for those who don'tunderstand it, that you we feel
almost as connected, probablydeeper than some people you're
with all the time, because thatgets weird for us.
Oh uh, but anyway, that that'san idea of what to do next is
just go live the life would liketo know how to do it.
That's your call to action.
Like, if you'd like to know howI'm doing this and want to do it
too, I I coach you through it,and that could become a very

(25:13):
inexpensive support group thing,a hundred bucks a month kind of
thing, but people join in andwho knows.
I put as there's a business tobe made doing exactly what you
do in love.
Go get your airstream and havefun with it.

SPEAKER_00 (25:26):
I love it, I love it.

SPEAKER_01 (25:28):
Like, like at this point, like you've done all the
stuff there to do it.
Now it's just about monetizingit.
But we could we can take thatoffline.
That's what I do.

SPEAKER_00 (25:34):
I help people monetize, yeah.
And you know, I did do a videothe day that I moved uh from
Sedona to California.
I did a video on the backside ofYosemite with uh the Mammoth
Mountain range or the easternSierras.
And I actually posted it andsomebody contacted me and said,

(25:57):
Oh, if you do a lot more videoslike this, we'll, I don't know,
we'll something we'll pay you orsomething or other.
I don't know.
And I was like, oh, that'sinteresting.
But it was just like reallyspontaneous with the mountains
in the background, and I wastalking about John Muir and the
mountains are calling.
I must go.
So I think you're on tosomething.

(26:18):
And I I've never really figuredout, like I have a YouTube
channel.
Uh, I used to do some FacebookLive videos when I was marketing
certain things, but I justhaven't really done it.
And um, I was just listening toGary Bienachek yesterday say how
you guys, you gotta get with iton putting yourself out on

(26:41):
social.
He said, This is like the mostcrazy time that we're in, that
people will find you and theywill, if they like you, trust
you, want to work with you,whatever you're promoting.
That's my thing, though.
I gotta figure out what do Iwant to promote.

SPEAKER_01 (26:58):
Well, we're gonna make sure that you get past 126
subscribers and 70 videos, andyou should go knock that out in
a week.

SPEAKER_00 (27:04):
Because that's what I have now.

SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
I mean, you you can you can go uh you could go live
on Roblox with the latest updateand just play it and probably
200 subscribers from childreninstantly.
But anyway, um it's not youraudience.
I will I will leave it.
We'll take it offline.
It's kind of this is this isn'tthis becomes my uh my fun zone.
Uh Patrice, thank you so muchfor coming on.
Once again, do you want do youwanna you uh just tell people
like how to get your book?
I think it's probably your bestcall to action right now, unless

(27:26):
you have something else.

SPEAKER_00 (27:27):
But like uh Yeah, my book is on Amazon, Rise to
Success, and uh under my namePatrice Lynn, but I haven't done
a whole lot to market my bookeither.
So you have to put the title andmy name in order for it to come
up.
So yeah, I'm really good atcertain things, but marketing

(27:48):
has not been one of them.
So um, yeah, I appreciate that.
I would love that.
It's on and then my website too,patrice Lynn.com.
Um there's there's some thingson there.

SPEAKER_01 (28:03):
Thank you for coming on there.

SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
Three thinks actually.
The the journal page to my bookis on there that you can uh
download.

SPEAKER_01 (28:13):
Wonderful.
Thank you, by the way, forcoming on here on fun Corey.
I appreciate it.
And listen to anybody who madeit this so far in the show, you
rock for getting here.
If this is the first time you'vebeen here, I hope it is the
first of many.
Get out there, go cut the tie towhatever's holding you back, and
let nothing stop you fromachieving the success you've
defined for yourself.
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