Kapri Bibbs

Kapri Bibbs was raised by a single mom in a very large family which instilled his commitment to family and his faith. He relied on both to guide him through rough times as a kid and when his football talents began to turn heads. Kapri also realized his faith would teach him lessons when he made certain choices, like cheating on the ACT his senior year of high school. That was a choice that landed him in community college rather than with a big time football scholarship. But he learned and moved forward and eventually transferred to Colorado State University where he set a single season school record for rushing despite not starting every game. The following year, Kapri went undrafted in the NFL, but signed with the Broncos and spent six years in the NFL between Denver, San Francisco, Washington, and Green Bay. In 2019 when his daughter was born, Kapri decided it was time to be a dad, get into the music industry and continue his schooling. As of this podcast recording, Kapri getting a master degree at CSU. 

Listen to Kapri's conversation with the host of Cut Traded Fired Retired, Susie Wargin. 

To learn more about the host Susie Wargin, visit www.SusieWargin.com

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
My senior year on the ACT, I had got a
twenty on ACT. I needed a twenty one to go
to Colorado State Honesty Hour.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Again.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I suck at math, went into Silver and Learning Advantage.
Saw one of my friends in there. I'm like, hey, man,
like you and my ACT, I might need this math
portion from you. So I cheated on my math ACT
portion and I got flagged by the NCAA claring House. Ultimately,
like God didn't want me to cheat anything that I
had did or anything that I was on to accomplish
that people would come back and be like, hey man,

(00:28):
you cheated your way through high school. You cheated to
get to college, you know, but bah da dah. God
was like, nah, that's not our story. Like too bad,
so sad. Now you're going to junior college. Could you
cheat it?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Welcome to Cut Traded, Fired, Retired, a podcast filled with
stories and advice from conversations with professional athletes and coaches
in a variety of sports. My hope is that you'll
gain a nugget or two for your own life on
how to handle stepbacks and move forward. I'm your host,
Susie Wargon. This episode's guest was raised by a single
mom in a very large family. Capri Bibbs is all

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about family and his faith, and he used both to
guide him through rough times as a kid and when
his football talents began to turn some heads. He also
realized early on his faith would teach him lessons when
he made certain choices like cheating on the act, a
choice that landed him in a community college rather than
getting a big time football scholarship. But he learned and

(01:20):
he moved forward and eventually transferred to Colorado State University,
where he set a single season school record for rushing
despite not starting every game. He went undrafted in the NFL,
but signed with the Broncos and spent six years between Denver,
San Francisco, Washington, and Green Bay. In twenty nineteen, when
his daughter was born, Capri decided it was time to
be a dad, get into the music industry, and continue

(01:43):
his schooling. As of this podcast recording, he's getting his
master's degree at CSU. Ladies and Gentlemen, Capri Bibbs.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Cut Traded Fired, Retired podcast with Susie Wargenen.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Capri Freakin' Bibbs. How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I'm doing great? How you doing good?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
We've been trying to do this for a while, so
thank you. I appreciate the time. And it's hard to
get your your busy guy still, hey.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know, I got to stay busy.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I feel like that's ultimately what God wants me to do,
is just stay on my up and up, you know,
and keep the best word for it, I guess is
just capitalizing off my talents, you know, and everything I
have to you know, He's been able to show me.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
So I'm still going.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I love it. I love it. Okay, Well, the way
this works is we're going to go way back to
your beginnings and talk about all your sporting ventures and
every place you've been there's been a few ups and downs,
you've overcome them, and where you are today. So you're
born in Illinois, Harvey, Is that right? Okay? All right?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I claim I claim Harvey simply that was the first
place my mom had her house at.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Okay, I was seven six years old.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Big town, small town.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Kind of medium, I guess the best way to put it.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
But it was the best place for me, I guess,
to start my initial blossom, you know. Okay, And how'd
you from the dirt, come from the trenches?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Sure, so how did you get into sports then, and
football in particular, and were there other sports?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So I was the only person in my family that
played football, no kidding, So I never had anybody teach
me how to play football. I actually didn't do my
first latter drill till I got to college, and I
already was already breaking records, state records, and everything prior
to that. But my uncles were the ones that, you know,
kind of pushed it in my head that I was
going to be a football player. And I see my
body stature, it knew that they were going to put

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work on me. So they're like, oh, yeah, you're gonna
be our football player. Told my brother to be basketball,
to my other brothers to be baseball.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
You yeah, they decided sports for us. But it stuck
for me because I really did love football. I was
kind of happy that they chose it for me. I'm like, oh, yeah,
I love that sport, you know, Like, so I'm definitely
gonna that's gonna be the one that.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I stick with.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Did you start as a running back because you're.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Always wanted to be a running back?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Thomas Stature, Priest Holmes, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Marshall Falk.
I was insanely obsessed with those guys coming up as
a kid. Watched every interview to learn how to talk,
and interviews and stuff like that, because I don't have
any examples of anybody else, So I start looking for
guys for their personalities, you know, and certain things.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I knew. I wasn't just like them, I know.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I came from a different place, you know, like that point,
being in three bedroom house with twenty some kids in it,
living all Salvation Army food every day. I was like,
all right, like you guys ain't gonna talk like me
or I'm not gonna talk like you. But I think,
essentially like whoever I thought of being like, the most influential,
most positive, you know, those are the people that I like.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
That's impressive, Kapri, that you thought ahead enough to watch
them to learn how to talk and not emulate them
but use them as examples.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, yeah, And I think that was what God did
for me because I didn't have any like in Chicago,
like growing up like people, we talked a certain type
of way. It was all that and I picked up
on it real quick. I would start seeing after game
interviews from post games and like when it would come
on to our we didn't have cable, so whatever the
antenna picked up for ABC Grabs, Yeah, so whatever it

(04:57):
picked up, I was like, all right, let me. This
is the most important part of game. Is the post
game is the interviews. You know, obviously you can see
who they're interviewing and how they're talking, and obviously how
I would want to present myself as Capri and not
as them or anybody else, but like what I would
want from my higher self.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Actually, you did very good. Okay, so now I'm super intrigued.
Three bedroom house, twenty kids. Tell me about what home
was like for you growing up.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Home was very beautiful for me. It actually taught me
like family. It taught me true love. We fought for
each other every day, you know, we went out trying
to accomplish things together. Might not have been always the
smartest ideas.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
But power numbers though, yeah, we had power numbers.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
We were always together and it was actually the happiest
I ever was in my life. Then we end up
getting separated what they call dcfs, which is a protective
custody in the state of Illinois. So I got put
in foster care. Me and my brothers. We were in
foster care for almost like two and a half years.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh wow, how old were you?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I was in the first grade. Oh man, I was
in the first grade. So I was in there till
like third grade. But it was because my mom was
working three four jobs and the neighbors had picked up
on it that parents were never really home. But we
always took care of ourselves, you know, we were very
advanced young rugg rats.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Ye have to be right. Did you have a dad
at home or a father figure? Was it just your uncles?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
My dad was sadly addicted to drugs, so I didn't.
He actually did live two blocks up for me, and
I didn't know it for almost like three years, four years,
Oh wow. So yeah, it was pretty bad. And to
my uncles brought us two blocks up and was like,
this is where your dad lives, and we were like, huh,
like he's been two blocks We walked down the street
almost every other day.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We walked past it to go to school.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
We had to walk them out of school every day,
so we had to walk past that house. So that
was the first initial wake up to like all right,
like all right, now, dad, like he because he just
clearly doesn't want to be there. But my mom became
a quick motivational factor for me watching her, you know,
live in that same house but work three jobs and
then eventually get up to a five bedroom house you

(07:01):
know outside of that and wow, now she got a doctorate.
She had my sister at fifteen, had my brother at eighteen,
me at nineteen, and a mother brother at twenty. So
now it's a lady who has her demolition license, construction
license on real estate practice, doctorate in psychology, has her
own practice there as well.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
For her.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
What a great role model is? Holy cow?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, I never really cared to really look up to
anybody else after kind of seeing like how she moved.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
The only thing that was different she was a woman.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
But that also like made me extra prowess because seeing
that was like, wow, this is a woman like who
can barely lift one hundred pounds me as a man like,
I'll build a lift five hundred, six hundred pounds, And
I can get her brains, her wits, her her her
work ethic, all those things. By just observing her and
watching her and how she was going about it with

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the whole family. She took care of the whole entire
family and the best she could.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's impressive.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, like from me, from me growing up dealing with
guys like hey, man, like you can't do that for
your family.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
You can't be there for your family like that. You
got to take care of you.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I was like, brother, only if you knew, like what
I thought about family compared to possibly what you think
about family, right, which is completely different. Yeah, Like I
start with my family for real. You know, I created dreams,
I create covenants with God based off my prayers and
dreams from my family. I love it, you know, so
like it's always going to hit different. You say, your

(08:29):
goals are this, and my goals are that. You know,
my goals are always to lift my family.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
That started differently than most. Yeah. Was she supportive of
your football career?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Oh wow, unbelievable, even as being in the NFL, even
going to my six year you know, at twenty six
years old. Came in young twenty years old, you know
obviously with the Broncos and my second year I won.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
The Super Bowl. But every last game she gave me
pregame speeches.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
She did.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh my god, that like it was just a thing
because she started doing it when I was like younger
in sixth grade when I first started getting my real
playing football, and I think she's seen how important it
was to me. Like after my fifth grade year, I
didn't play a game for the team I played for.
I couldn't even put my thigh pass knee pass in
the right way. The coaches didn't even teach me how
to put my stuff in right because, you know, they

(09:17):
had their kids. They were more focused on their kids
playing and stuff. They gave me number ninety.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Nine as a running back.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I didn't have a position. I was just like, you know,
wanted to play. My mom finally got a chance to
pay for us to play football. I was just happy
to be out there play some organized sports, you know,
for the first time. And after that year, I was
pretty much done with football. I like didn't think I
was good anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Really, yeah, because it wasn't a great experience.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It wasn't a great experience. They didn't play me at all.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Like I was just like, Wow, I'm only good on
the streets because at that time, like in the streets,
as we would say.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I was like the guy that was set. He was.
I used to play with like the twenty year olds,
nineteen year olds, I like ten years old, I'll get
picked up first.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
So like when I by the time I finally started playing,
I was like, oh, I'm about to like everybody knows
how good I am. Everybody knows I'm about to do
this and do that. I'm the first old yeah exactly,
Like nobody like I'm about to kill these little kids,
right Nah, Nope. Didn't even get a chance to play.
And then it was one game it was snowing outside
like bad. It was freezing cold, and I was on

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the sideline and I was just so happy to play
football and my mom comes to me and cast me
in the middle of the game.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It was like halftime. I didn't play a snap and it.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Was freezing, like all the kids were freezing all that
and I was just standing there was like six game,
seven game of the season. Still hadn't played one snap,
and my mom was like, Babe, grab your helmet. We
leaving right now, Like we're not playing on this team anymore,
like you know, like this is ridiculous and we're losing.
They're still not playing you. They haven't played you all
these games. I said, I'm like, this's my team. I'm

(10:51):
gonna stick around watch my team. We're gonna finish. And
after that, she literally to this day she's telling me
all the time about that story. She goes like, you
made me feel so small at that moment, you know
what I mean, Like that was everything I had taught
you and I lost sight of it, you know what
I mean, And you reminded me of that. But I
always tell her that all the time. I was like,
you don't understand how closely I watched you as a

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kid and even growing up, so half of my responses
were your responses, right.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
She wanted to go it was what she had instilled
in you did say.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I was like, I don't know what you want me
to say. I know I'm right because you taught me this,
you know what I mean. Because we're not leaving right now,
I know for the rest of this. Let me finish
out the season. Got to a family reunion that same
exact summer, and my uncle was like, hey, like I
ran back a kick on the whole family at the
family reunion. Verse like fifty people right. It was playing

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tackle football, grown man, little kids.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Oh all that like serious family.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Serious family football.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I catched the first kick return, like and it's forty
on forty and I broke like twenty tackles. You took
it to the house right. I almost ran out of
my shoe. And my uncle comes up to me like
what football team is you on? Like I need them
on my football team, and my mom was like, well.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
We just tried playing for the first year.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Last year he got number ninety nine and like he
didn't play, like I don't like and it was like
he was like, no, bring them to the Harvey Coats
like where we were from, because he played for my
stepdad's team out in Gleenwood. And he was like, bring
them to me, Like I got you. That very next year,
had twenty three carries for twenty three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I never got tackled the whole entire record year.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'd scored a touchdown on every last time they handed
me off.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
The ball, I scored a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Wow. My teammates started telling me, like, you only scored
every time he's touched the ball because you're scared, and.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I was just like, I thought the point was not
to get hit.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
It kind of is.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I didn't think I was supposed to get tackled. You
want to see me fall, I'm on your team. Oh
my gosh, that is great, and then it was history
from there.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah. So and you go to Plainfield Plainfield North High
School and from there do you get recruited because your
first year of college is at snow College? Where's that?
And how did that kind of come about?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
All right? So it's an honesty hour.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Now, Yeah, is this ups and downs?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Going to my freshman year of high school. I had
been recruited by Marion Catholic Saint Rita. I had played
for a nice little club team. Now at this point
in my eighth grade year, they were called the Dalton Bears.
I had moved from the Harvey Coats. We had a
girl quarterback. They made the movie about my football team
called the long Shots Cub and Keiki Palmer. That was
about my grammar school team.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
So we were undefeated for years and then we all
switched coaches and we didn't like the new coach we got,
so we all kind of like disbanded our eighth grade year.
I ended up going to the Dalton Bears. And my
mom knew I was at that point, like are you
getting scholarships to go to school for free?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
High school?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
And we were living in a bad neighborhood still and
my mom was like, hey, like what you want to do.
You want to go to a private school by yourself,
They're gonna pay for it, or would you rather us
move to playing Field a better public school, Like we
won't be able to buy clothes and stuff like that,
but like we had to spend all the money on rent,
but we will be in a better public school and
you get to go to school with your brothers. I
was like, okay, because my brothers, we couldn't pay for

(14:01):
private school for my brothers and stuff like that, and
I had my two other brothers that.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm stairsteps again going back to family.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yep, I chose family, chose go to public school, go
to school with my brothers, And I feel like it
all worked out as the best experience of my life
to kind of like move out of the hood, like
move out of a dark place and be able to
finally know what it was really like to live in
a place where I can like relax, like, all right,
I don't got to fight for my life today. I
ain't got to worry about getting killed today, on top
of trying to be a football player, on top of

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all that.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
That's so crazy and it's a real thing. I mean
when you come from some of those places, like you
don't just have the regular worries that you know, your
suburban kid here has I got to go to practice
and remember my shoes. You're like, I got to make it.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
To school, make it to school.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Literally, there's gunshots every night.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Walking them out of school. Every single day. I start
gang banging in the fifth grade. I say gang banging
because that's what the government would call it right from
the group that I was participating in. But it was
really the black Panthers in the Nation of Islam. It
was for protection of culture, protection of people. Growing up,
I was always surrounded around gangs. My family was so big.

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We always had friends. We always kind of ran the community.
Wherever we lived at. We were the people of that community.
We were like, yeah, these are the guys you need
to know if you live here. Because we had the
most people. We had thirty forty people off the wake
up every day, you know that we would come out
on the street on so people would know like, hey,
you don't want to mess with these guys. They live
in one house and it's thirty of them, you know

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what I mean. So, like when it came to like
street politics.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And all that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
We didn't abide by those rules like anywhere I lived,
that in Chicago, from the South side, west side, everywhere
we ran, where we were from, everywhere, people knew our
names all that.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But it wasn't nothing negative.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
It was one hundred percent positive because what we represented
it under the nation Islam and black parents are So
we always created friends, always created a family culture.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
All that that people know us for to this day.
My whole entire family. Wow. So that tribe.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, if you're to have a tribe in that situation,
that's the tribe to have.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Okay, So then what happens with getting through high school
and going to college?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So high school's going great, right and breaking all these
state records and you know, setting every record in my
high school.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Still never did a lot of drill, still never trained.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Football, but breaking records, like.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Breaking records like crazy. But I'm having troubles in school.
My senior year on the ACT, I had got a
twenty on ACT. I needed a twenty one to go
to Colorado State. So honestly, hour again, I suck at math.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Right, That's okay, I suck at math, people do.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I'm great in science.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I got a perfect reading and writing score all that,
but in math I got a nine on my act.
I cannot. I just hate formulas, and I put it
in my head. I never was gonna do math, never
cared to remember formulas, took physics all that, you know,
but I hated formulas. Going into the act, I was like,
I already kind of beat myself up about it. Went
into Silver and Learning Advantage, saw one of my friends

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in there. I'm like, hey, man, you on my act.
I might need this math portion from me. So I
cheated on my math act portion and I got flagged
by the NCLA Clarting House because my act jumped from
a twenty to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
It was above a two point jump, so they flagged me.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
And yeah, I just think ultimately like God didn't want
me to cheat anything that I had did or anything.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That I was going to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
That people would come back and be like, hey man,
you cheated your way through high school. You cheated to
get to college, you know, buta da dah. God was like, na,
that's not our story, Like too bad, so sad. Now
you're going to junior college because you cheat it.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
And I was just like okay, I learned a lesson early, didn't.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, But at that point after that, I was like,
all right, no more cheating.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I got all the hard work, all the everything, Like
I can't cut any corners because I knew that my
teachings were coming profoundly and directly from God, because I
didn't have anybody else.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
So I talked to God heavily, you know, about.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
All my decisions and even when I would mess up,
you know, because I always wanted the best for myself
and always try to put my mind together to do
the best. And they say, what if you ain't cheating,
you ain't trying, right, And at that point I was like, hey,
like I really suck at this guy, Like I need
I need some help. I gotta do something. I got
to qualify, you know, like this is my future, you know,
like I need this. So I did cheat on act

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did not work out the way I wanted to. Still
end up going to JUCO, but instead now instead of
staying in JUCO for two years, I got my associal's
degree in a year. Really, so I took sixty three
credits in a single year to come to Colorado State.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
The very follow up sixty three, I told.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Twenty nine credits.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Over the fall semester, I took seventeen in between spring
classes from multiple different institutes around the country. And then
in the spring, I took another twenty four credits and
I left.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
That's insane. But you didn't have you didn't have football
going on, so like literally all you did was school.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yep, I set out in the fall. I didn't play
for this.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
You didn't play like what twenty eleven and twenty twelve
because you came to see USU in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
I played twenty eleven in Juco, still.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Playing Juco, okay, and that was a snow.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, it was a snow.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
And it was funny because I won like Player of
the Game four or five times, and I purposely told
them not to play me because I already knew I
was leaving, and but they just wanted me on the team.
I got the first full ride scholarship in their school
history since like the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But we won a bunch of games. We almost went
to the NATTI.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
We lost one game to go to the NATTY, So
Juco was a good experience. But then in the spring
I didn't play at all. I chose to opt out
a spring training just to focus on my books because
I knew I was leaving.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
And then you went to Front Range Community College here right.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Because I couldn't enroll in school yet because they created
the fall spring fall rule that same.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
As that year, the same ex that year I left
my junior college.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
That summer they started the fall spring fall rule that
if you didn't qualify initially through the NCAA clearinghouse, you
didn't have to do a fall spring fall. So once
I finished, and I'm looking at it now and they
dropped that rule, I was like, Wow, so I just
did a whole year of school when I could have
did it in a year and a half.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Wow, did you get any better at math?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
No? I still suck at math and I don't want
to be good at it.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, as long as I can count, when I can
do a little division, a little multiplication.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
I got my speech communications degree. It looked. I mean,
I wanted to do radio TV anyway, But at CSU
at that time, back when I went to school, you
had to take three math mods and you could pass
out of them and test out of them. So I
was like, sign me up if I don't have to
ever take a math class and I can just do
these modules and get out. I'm all in, Yes, math
is ridiculously, I don't make it crazy. No, not my thing. Okay,

(20:26):
so you eventually you get to c ISSU in twenty thirteen,
Jim mcawaine's coach.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I actually committed to Fairchild, right. I committed to Steve Fairchild.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Committed to Steve.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I committed to mister Fairchild, the guy who him and
Patrick Meyers, those are the two guys that like, I
love dearly. How they came into my life my junior
year of high school when I had a one point a.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
GPA and he'd been working here for a while.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, and they came in and they were like, hey, like,
I know you're getting UCLA's, you getting Oklahoma's all that.
I was actually going to go to pitt instead of
Colorado State, but they had been committed to me since
my junior year.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
They came in, helped me getting honors.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Classes, told me I needed to take an early bird
class all that is, just in order to be able
to qualify. So I did it, and I got a's
and b's my junior and senior year coming out and
then obviously but I cheat on the tea, which ultimately
messed it all up. But they're the ones who even
lit that fire under me, underneath me that I could
still qualify through. They set up at clearinghouse and gave

(21:26):
me my next two years like something to look forward to.
Because Nebraska Ohio State's Notre dame. They all came in,
walked in and seen my transcripts and pretty much tell
me that they had seen me after Juko. Colorado State
was only school with my junior year to come in
and say, hey, like, no, you can still qualify.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
You just want to do this.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
They do that, and I'm like, okay, all right, thank
you for believing in me, and I went and did it.
They called them check up on me and make sure
I was doing good in classes. All that my junior
year all went to my senior year. So when signing
they came around and I had thirty offers now instead
of won, I was like, damn, do I stick with
the one team that literally called me almost every other week,

(22:04):
you know, and made sure like they cared about me.
They cared about my family. Steve Fairchild and those guys
Patrick Myers, so I still loved both of them. Talk
to them to this day. Got to Colorado State and
that got fired coming into that fall. Wow, I was like, wow,
I could have saved you guys. I hate them feel
like that. But I did the same thing for Macawaane.
We weren't winning games until I started. We were clearly

(22:26):
won in three, one, and four for a reason when
I started. Out of those eight games, he won seven
of them.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So yeah, ended up being eight and six that year,
going to the Bowl game in New Mexico Bowl against
Washington State, which is still literally one of the craziest
games I have ever been to in my life.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, we probably dropped one game after I became a starter.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
So did you not start? You didn't start for oh
my gosh, and you still had thirty one touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yep, I didn't even start to the fifth game.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You could have broken Barry Sanders record has started because
Barry's guys thirty seven, thirty seven, Monte had thirty three,
and then you have the thirty one and now a
couple of guys say.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
That in eight starts, every guy that's on that every
guy that's on that list, every guy that's on that
list had fourteen and thirteen plus starts.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Wow, I did that in eight games.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
That's crazy, Capri.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I could have shot at that record easily. But I
scored forty two touchdowns in a single season in high school.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Did you really nine games?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
So, I mean the scoring touchdowns for me, it was
never something that I was like new.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Too, although you were doing it when you were ten
against the twenty year.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Olds, right, So I was like for me, like you
and I seen the record and I found out that
I was in the thirty top club. I didn't even
know what that was at the time, but I was
just like that was that was the record, and I
was that close.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I was just like you had those other games, but
at that time you were only the third player to
ever do it, because it was just berrying Monte at
that point.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, now there's five of you. There's two others that
have been added in, but.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, and no, guys weren't even they're not even on
my level either, So right, respectfully to them and their
craft and all that, but.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
You should have an asterisk. Did it in eight games?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, I think that's one hundred percent fair because everybody
else is on there's thirteen fourteen.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Games plus and so after that season, Capri, you decide
to go into the draft. What went into that decision?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Mccaway, That was it? One hundred percent of this.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
The decision of me going to the NFL was one
hundred percent based on the fact that I didn't just
like the way he was handling players. I'm very smart,
very intellectual, very competent, compassionate as well. So when I
watch a leader that's supposed to lead people degrade people,
even the coaches on staff, even people, and then also

(24:41):
see that he had something great, but he wasn't the
one who recruited it. Now you want to come out
and feel like that you were going to attack me
and that they were going to be some things going
on behind closed doors, and then you take away all
my meteorites. Don't let me talk to any type of
anybody after I'm breaking school records.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
All that I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, he literally took away my meteorites, told me I
couldn't talk to the media all that, there's nothing wrong
with my speech, there's nothing wrong with anything about one
of the.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
More intellectual people to chat with.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
He actually let that whole entire team did pregame speeches
for the whole entire team, even as not a starter
as for string on the depth chart, because the guys
wanted me to speak. They knew that mccelwaine was holding
me back at that point because of our relationship and
him calling me bitches and pussies in practice.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
As I'm throwing up on my hands and knees.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
The first day he met me, knowing that I was
a number one recruit from another coaching staff. God, yeah,
we had a thing called a RAMU program. We had
to run eighty eighty three time sprints. I got to
like seventy three and I broke down on my hands knees,
start throwing up, and he came and stood over me.
The first day he had met me, As I'm throwing
up my hands and knees on the turf from the endoor,

(25:50):
it said, stop being a bitch, you're acting.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Like a pussy. Get up.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh my god, And I sucked up every piece of
my throw up. After almost winning every race too. This
is the first day I just I was in there
working my ass off, trying to come in and prove like, hey,
I'm happy to be here. I'm ready to go. It's
been a long time coming. I've been committed since junior year,
like I'm finally here. I'm a sophomore in college now
three years later, you know, like, of course I'm ready
to go, you know, after Juco and hearing the guy

(26:17):
talk to me like that, knowing how much I had
been through and how hard I was even going that day,
even for him, you know, a guy that I just
met that same day, Like this was for you, you know,
and you stand over me while I'm throwing up. Literally
I'm hyperglacemic to the point I could die at that point.
And I don't even mean to sound dramatic or anything
like that, but I really am hyper glacemic.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
So my sugar runs out a lot faster.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, but I sucked up every piece of that throw
up that day, and I looked at him and I said,
talk to me like a man. And then he got
back on my face, starts screaming at me again, and
a couple piece of his spit hit me in my face.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
So I walked away and I just got back to work.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
She put me forcing on the depth chart from that
point and told me if I want to be on
a team, I have to play special teams.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
And then we played.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Then we played the.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
First game vers Cu down that like Alexander was a starter,
he hard his finger on like the third play of
the game and put Christian Newok in the game.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Next, they had me lifted four string on the depth chart.
It's still on paper. They had me listed four string
on the depth chart.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
They played Chris walk gave him seventeen carries, he had
like forty yards, and then when it came down to
the third back, they was like, all right, psych, you're
actually not four string getting the game. Wow, So you
put me listened to me for string on the depth
chart just because you wanted to. And then when the
game kicked off, you knew you couldn't put the guy
in in the third spot that you listed above me,

(27:34):
So now you throw me in a game. And then
I scored two touchdowns in a game I didn't even
think I was going to play in, and I was
lucky to get a jersey.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Remember that same as that game, I won't save them.
Then I phone with the ball.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I fom with the ball in the fourth quarter, which
I feel like was one hundred percent, just because God
was like, why are you playing with this kid? And
know you're not gonna win off his merit either. After
you're doing what you're doing to him. So when I fumbled,
I was of course I was upset. After the game
was over, God was like he came to me, he
was like, congratulations, good job, And I was like, well,

(28:05):
what about the fumble? He was like, you think they
deserve to win off your back after exactly everything they're
doing to you, And there he's trying to embarrass you essentially.
And then after that, moving forward the next three four games,
did I play much?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
No, he didn't care. He didn't care about the team.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
He didn't care about the season now it was looking
and how I could have helped the whole entire team.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
He didn't care about none of that. He cared about himself.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, and that was pretty apparent. I think a couple
of years later when he was he bailed like Florida.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Oh yeah, I didn't even coaching the bowl game, right,
but this is the guy we were going to listen
to in media and be like.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh yeah, this is our guy. He's for Colorado. Stop that.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
And I'm kind of over that kind of narrative coming
in with these coaches coming in Colorado State, Like I
could tell a guy if he cares or not.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Oh yeah, it's pretty when you've been around a long
long enough, you know, and now that especially you've gone
through all these experiences.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, I had plenty of coaches, I know, and the
guy's blowing smoke up asses.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
You know. He was my language excuse my friends podcast.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, but even like Mara, you know, speaking on Mara, like,
I just I like his enthusiasm. I like where he
comes from. I like the projects he likes to put
his hands on. You can see what he did in Yukon.
That was a project. He knew that was a project.
And some of these things are just easy to tell
before you ever can say a word to a person
right what they believe in.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I think you're gonna like him. I got a chance
to meet him a couple of years ago, and I
think you're really gonna like if he really wants to
get players involved, legitimately involved. And we can talk more
about that, but let's go back to going into the draft.
You go undrafted. Did you have a feeling that you
might get drafted and you.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Had a second to fourth round draft grade?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Did you so?

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I was supposed to be drafted the second to fourth round,
but I ended up getting red flagged coming out in
the draft because I lost seventy percent of mobility in
my right toe when I got the turf toe injury
at Colorado.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Story.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Oh, I wore a metal prosthetic, played inside of my
cleat every game from that point, and was taken two
corterzonal shots a game just to be able to play
in your toe in my tone.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh my gosh, how painful was that?

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Unbelievably painful? This?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh yeah, I know they're huge now.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I can literally feel it scraping against my bone.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, like while they're injecting the fluid in there, just
so I can be able to run in the game,
still play put up some yards.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Then going into the NFL the next year, they red
flagged me right, told me that was on knee surgery.
But I'm like, I'm not getting surged out and believing surgery.
I don't believe in putting metal parts with bones supposed
to be. I believe in the human body. I believe
that God made our body very sophisticated. They can heal
itself on his own. They can do a lot of things.
So I do believe in like a lot more herbs
and like traditional ways to heal the body. I don't

(30:38):
believe in like doctor's offices as much unless I got
like a headache, I text some man feels from taling all.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Sure, But outside of.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
That, we're not getting into the things that have like
thirty different side effects when I just had a running nose.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Right, yeah, and you might experience and you're like, oh no, no, no, no, no,
thank you. I don't want to experience any of that.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Cast I just had a running nose.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
So you go.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Undrafted, then, you know, talk to a lot of guys
on my podcast that are undrafted, and there's a silver
lining in that. Then you can choose from the teams
that call you and see who's got the Yeah, that
was the best need.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, that was the best discovery of going undrafted, because
I didn't. I was one hundred percent of the notion
I was going to get drafted either by like Jets Baltimore.
You know, I was having heavy talks with those guys,
but I guess, like I just since me not clearing
those physicals with that foot became a problem. But obviously
that upcoming preseason proven that it wasn't right. Let the

(31:30):
NFL and Russian Let the NFL and touchdowns as.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
A with the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
With the Broncos, you know, and still only make the
practice squad. So I figured out more about the business
than that. When you have three drafted guys on the
team that are all making you know, fifteen million dollars
plus that you may not get a NOD when you
got a two thousand dollars signing bonus and it's a business.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Say you figure out it's a business real real quick quick.
So they put you on the practice squad. You get released.
So this is in twenty fourteen, you get released in November,
you go quickly to Arizona, released again back to Denver.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh yeah, that was just kind of a little tactic.
The best thing about l Way, the best thing about the.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Broncos was the GM at that time.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, Way, beautiful, beautiful guy. I appreciated him more than
any other GM. Him and Doug Williams. I would have
to say, those are two best experiences I've had. And
talking Chris Ballard from the Coats is amazing too, Like
there's a couple of gms that's around this league that's like, wow, okay,
you get it.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
People know what they do behind the scenes to kind
of help guys. You know, some some things are just
black and white, and this happens, but there are times
where they will try and help.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Well it's those type of gms that let the world
know that it's not just black and white, because nothing
is just.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Black and white.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
All this stuff is about our personalities, characteristics and profile
a human beings. Yeah, that they set around us and
they try to tell people, Hey, this guy is a
bad guy because when he was sixteen he did this.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
This isn't that like.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
We're looking at like brother, like if you knew, you know,
I haven't, Like I knew when I messed up that
day and haven't done a thing since.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But here you are the one that.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
That you're going to be the one that reminds me
about something that I did wrong as a child. You
know what I'm saying, just so you can get me
at a lower market value. You know, take your stock down,
take my stock. It's kind of disrupting and kind of
regurgitating to see the NFL keep continuing to do this
with black players only, and I'm sorry they do this
with black players. I've never seen a white player go
through it. I've never seen any type of player go

(33:26):
through the process that they put black players through in
the NFL, really determining if they have good personality or not.
You know that if you come from the hood, now
we have to triple check and quadruple check to make
sure that this guy is a great guy because this
is that. But you're not going to go back into
the suburban neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, guess what. He has a drinking problem.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
A lot of stuff in those neighborhoods too.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's an alcoholic, he's a business is that, he's a
butter boom. There's other different levels of devians that you
deal with from people based on geographic location. So just
because this guy wasn't in the gang doesn't mean that
he wasn't deviant, you know what I mean, And that
his makeup didn't have any type of devians in it
or not.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Do for you.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
He stuck out for me in my entire life solely
for the fact he was always honest, he was always real.
I remember he talked to my mom, you know, because
my mom was so aggravated with the fact that my
agent was Elway's best friend. So that was already a
conflict of interest. So we needed honesty directly from him.
We couldn't take it from my agent because you guys
are best friends. We weren't ready to listen to him

(34:32):
anymore because he already got me in a little bit
of stuff already, which I don't blame him at all,
and advice he was giving me, but it came across
as a conflict of interest because for your best friend
is and obviously about you representing other people, that's tied
in there. But shoot, l Way single handedly saved me
from a bunch of anxiety. I feel like a lot

(34:55):
of players will have to deal with by not having
any answers.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You know what I mean about what their future looked like.
You know, even with that.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Team, even when I was going and fluctuating from practice
squad to active roster, from them trying to.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
You run the transaction report every week, it seemed like, well, it's.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Because they were trying to protect me from other teams. Yes,
I had Buffalo try to come sign me, had Arizona
try to come sign me. I had the Patriots try
to come sign me all off the practice squad, and
the Broncos gave me option every time they're like, hey,
like and this lay would tell me like we're dealing
with contract issues. We know you're the best guy here.
We just got to get this money in order. We
got this guy making twenty million, we got this guy boom,

(35:30):
We paid CJ this, we paid this guy at and
we know you will beat them out in competition, but like,
we just got to get the money right.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
So he told me.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
After going to my second year, we after we built
the relationship and they put me back on the practice
squad again and they didn't play me at all in
the preseason, which is unheard of. You never heard of
a player making a team that didn't play in the preseason.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
So if you go back through the two.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Fifteen preseason, I'm only player on the Broncos that probably
had a toll of all about.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Ten snaps high preseason and still made the team.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
But is that something that nobody would notice you exactly?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
They all tried to pick me up the year before,
so I already knew what they were doing. I didn't
need to go to Lway for explanation with that, you know.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Because I think you're gonna make the team.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, Well, because I was with the ones, you know,
I was practicing with the ones every day.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I was turning up the number one defense. I was
blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
And then we get into the preseason and you got
a guy running with the ones that was undrafted. But
then the game starts rolling and I don't play a snap.
I'm like, okay, what is this about?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You just test me again, see if I'm even ready
for whatever's going on. But at that point I knew
there was more than going on and just me playing football.
It was evident even to like guys like the Marius
Thomas you know, RP to him. But I remember day
came up in practice when he came up to me
with tears in his eyes. He made me cry too,
and he was just like, man, if like if I

(36:51):
had to go through what you were going through, I
don't think I'd be here. And he was just talking
about the fact that I was undrafted and that like
I was clearly the best player, you know what I
mean that, But I was just in between contract stuff.
I was in between opportunity. That was all it pretty
much was. It wasn't about if I was a good
guy bad guy what everybody wanted to make it about
why it could pre not playing because no one's giving

(37:13):
them the real answers.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Because you can't.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Sometimes the athletic ability is not party shout.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
And that's our notion as young players coming from high
school college.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
When you get to the NFL, the best guy plays.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
No way, Jose the business.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
The money plays, yeah, you know so, and it even
gets down to a worser thing. And I feel bad
for the college kids now that have to kind of
go through that because money will come into play now
if they do pay certain kids in nil and all
of a sudden, you're missing development of other players because
you just paid this other kid that you think was
just better from a private school. He had bigger linemen,

(37:50):
ran for more yards.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Good luck trying to live through that.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Absolutely, you know so, absolutely it's real ugly.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
So I appreciate l Way for just being so transparent
with me throughout the time. It gave me peace, you
know what I mean, knowing that I wasn't delusional, you
know that I wasn't just seeing something on the field
like Wow, I'm going against the number one defense every
day and I'm scoring three touchdowns rust a number one
defense every day. I got guys on the starting defense
fighting with the other guys on the starting defense because

(38:16):
I can't be stopped. I got the defensive coordinator slamming
down his playbook because we're the number one defense in
NFL and pass defense, but we're number seventeen in RUSS defense.
And every day in practice I'm scoring eighty seventy yard
touchdown runs and the coaching like Apri, I need you
to wear they ass out because we got to get
better in the run defense. And we got Adrian Peterson

(38:38):
this week. First three players of that practice took them
all seventy eighty plus.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
You'reimulating the best backs in the league with no problem.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I mean, Rex burkeheads theoretics third down running backs to
first and second down running backs.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I can do it in my sleep.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
By that defense was so good, huh.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
And then we come and then my time in Washington
was the first time I kind of really got a
chance to like expose my pass catching ability and my
run capabilities uneath.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
The same house.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Because Washington was like, hey, I had trained with Gruden
with a big John Gruden at his quarterback passing camp
and I was playing receiver only and he was like,
you can run routes, you can catch.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
You're running every route in the route tree.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I said, yeah, like I've been doing this though, but
when I was in Denvers that I have to No,
I'll play with four Hall of Fame too much receivers.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Exactly, Why would.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I be out running for a route when Demaras, Thomas, Emayo, Sanders,
Julius Thomas, and West Walker all lined up on the
field one. We don't need another pass catcher on the
team at that point.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, okay, so twenty fifteen, that of course is the
Super Bowl fifteen. You get a ring, right, you're on
the roster.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
That was my first active season that I like actually
got some games underneath my belt. Wasn't at running back.
I play a lot of special teams that year. That
was a great experience too to know that, hey, I'm
not one of those guys who like signed on to
the team a week before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
And got ring.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
You were there for the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
A year prior before, and as well as the special
teams throughout the season and all that. You know, before
we all meet decide to only dress two backs in
the Super Bowl. We dressed for it all year. But
I mean it's the numbers thing, so like you can't
get mad at it. And of course we knew we
got paid Manning back he's trying to put the ball
in the air. We got CJ. We got Ronnie. I'm
cool with both those guys. Thought they were great talents.

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Ronnie Himan, Yeah, you know so, I already I wasn't
mad at the fact of who they chose.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
And I definitely believe in CJ. Two. Yeah, he get
the job done there.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
That backs room was was really good.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
And we stuck together for a while too. It kept
us all together for a while.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
The next year, November twenty sixteen, you get your first touchdown,
happens on Monday night football against the Raiders. Yeap, what
was that like?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Looking back on it, I didn't really understand my emotions
at the time. I remember just looking at the pictures
and looking at everything because I'm always in mode of
the game and i just let my emotions be with
it be because I'm never i never run with malice,
i never move off of destruction. I'm always looking for love,
looking for peace within myself, you know. So, like as

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I'm even going through my emotions on the sideline and
kind of like trying to wonder why, like I'm not
dancing and while I'm not celebrating. It was simply because
like I wasn't impressed. I'm just being one hundred percent honest,
like I wasn't impressed. Everybody kept coming up to me
and slapping me, telling me good job, and I'm like,
y'all see this from me every day. The fact that
my running back coach came up to me and told

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me good job almost like it made me angry really
because I'm like, you watched this from me every single day.
But what are we doing? Are we acting surprised? No,
I don't like this at all. I don't like this
feeling at all. Give interest, Give me the ball, like
you know what happens when I get the ball? Like,
but we know while we're playing around, we know while
my running back coach is coming up to me telling me,

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hey man, I just want you to get more of
that dog in you excuse me.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I have dog? Don't you like?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Like? Get what dog? I mean?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
What do you are you talking about the fact that
I have more touchdowns than all your running backs combined
in one single season and their whole college career. This
is the same guy you're looking at, the same guy
that you're watching every day and practice with. A smile
on his face. Yeah, I'm that same dog that never
changes about me. That's because I'm smiling. Don't mean that
what's inside of me isn't what it is. You misconstrued that,

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not me. I know exactly what I made up of, right,
And that was never something that I felt like I'd
ever need to prove to anybody ever in my life
seventeen eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old to thirty two years
old right now, I've never went out my way one
day to feel like I had something to prove to
anybody outside of God. And if it comes to me,
you know, having that influence of God, I'll explain myself

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for God, but not for nobody else.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Did you keep that football?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh? Yeah? Still got that? Okay, I still got So.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
You still have like a momento from yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, I mean not just from the real raw emotions
from it all of you know, going into like this
is like now my third year.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
So at that point, like that being my first career
touchdown and from the same guy that told me he
never wanted me to cut back in the NFL game
because that's not how the NFL worked. And you watch
me cut back the field three times in the same
play and score a touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Then you come up to me and tell me good job.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Hey, look, I'm not really here for your tutelage anymore
at this point. And I don't mean for that to
come off in a negative way, because he taught me
so many great things about work ethic and about you know,
how to study your playbook. But when it came to
being a running back, You've never met a running back
like me in your life, and that's evident. The numbers
say you've never met a running back like me, and
my life. Don't ever act like you have.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
You keep receipts well.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I keeping very well.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I mean because at the end of the day, like
I don't think it's ever nothing for me to think
negative of a person. It just shows me exactly where
they are. It doesn't really show me where I am.
It shows me where your mindset is. It shows me
where what you think of the game, what you think
of something that is not always meant for me to
take in. Sometimes it's just good just to listen sometimes
you know what I mean, and here where somebody is

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thinking or what they're saying, and how they truly feel,
you know, through all the in betweens, rather than them
trying to gash you up a little bit and then
take the gas right back out. I'm not into that,
you know. I'm like taking whatever prosperous and I get
rid of the rest, you know. And I've been good
at doing that since I've been six seven years old.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
I mean, this is the nicest way. Do you think
you are too smart for the game?

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Okay, I mean and I mean that like.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
And that's what I retired after my sixth year is
because I got to a point when I had my daughter.
And you know, my daughter was born in July twenty
fifth of twenty nineteen. That was the same day of
starting training camp in Green Bay. That year I was
in Green Bay. My daughter was born in July twenty fifth,
That was the same exact day of starting training camp.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
At that point, I was like, I wanted to be
a father.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I had been in NFL now six years, went through
six camps.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
All that, and I'm like, in the meantime, you've gone
to Trader to San Francisco, right, and then Washington and
then up and down then the Packers.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
So yeah, I stayed in Washington for two years.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Okay, yeah, and you did well in Washington.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Ye, that was my birs.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I feel like that was my first time that ever
really truly got a chance to play like real. But
then at the same time too, I still didn't even
really get a chance there either. Kind of weird top
of dynamic with Adrian Peterson being there, they had to
like kind of cater to him, you know, and his
legacy and all that. And I respected the crap out
of AP so I respected it too. But at the

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end of the day, you know, when we talk about tea,
when we talk about winning games, when you talking about
putting the best player in the game, I'm probably the
only person in the football history who's ever taken Adrian
Peterson's spot, who's ever took a job from Ajor and Peterson.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Hall of Famer. That's crazy and no one could ever
say that.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
But sorry, to become a father and you want to do.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
That, yeah, And that was something to me that like
I held very near and dear to me.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I always wanted to be a father.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
You're a family guy. Yeah, that's what you do.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
It just is what it is. I do everything for
my family. I never had a father, right. Ever, in
my life, my dad was dicted to drugs. So when
I had my daughter, I was like, oh, I'm gonna
be a father, Like I'm gonna wake up.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I'm an change some pampers. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I want to see what it's like, you know what
I mean. I had my little sister that was born
when I was like sixteen, but way different feeling from
seeing a baby come out, knowing that it was your party.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
You yeah, this is really me. And I was like,
all right.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
So first two months went by Kansas City try to
sign me, New England try to sign me.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
And the Tennessee Titans try to sign me.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
And I've been sending my couch every day and donnuts
waking up.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
My daughter turned them all down.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Man, I just had to. I took the visit to Casey.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I took the visit to Tennessee as well, but I
just didn't feel like, oh in Washington, try to bring
me back to as well. And God was like, hey,
you know, like it's your choice. But then all to me,
I just kept asking so many questions. I already knew
I didn't want to do it. Yeah, because before I
never asked a question. I never was ever worried about
where I was going next. I just wanted to play football.
I love the game that much. But at that point,

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it was just like, all right, so.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
You're gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
You're gonna take two weeks off the whole offseason again,
work every day in your life to hear a guy
come in and tell you, hey, like, you need eat
a little more dog in you, or hey like, I
don't think.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
You're working hard enough.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
And I'm five percent body fat from taking off two
weeks off every off season and working every other day,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Really your heart made the flip.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, I can't have.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Those conversations with guys anymore looking in the eyes and
act like you see me for who I am, because
you don't, and you don't care to see me for
who I am.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
You care to see me as a number.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And that's the first place you're going to go wrong
with me is because I've grew my whole life around
not being a statistic, not being a number, and being
smarter than a number, and being smarter than a statistic.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Good for you for making that decision, because it takes
some guys a long time to come to that, and
then they've lost that precious family time and they've lost
some of that time where they've just they're still trying
to hang on, still trying to hang on. So let's
catch up with what you're doing now, obviously, Dad, big deal, right,
just the one Yeah, okay, right, yep.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
She's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Makes me feel good to know that all those years
that I literally chose it was a choice, knowing that
if I can go in the building from six o'clock
to seven o'clock at night, and that was my work ethic,
and that's how I like to work because I like
to watch on my film and building, I like to
do everything before I went home, so I can just
relax knowing that that was the case. And then seeing

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two years later, three years later, like my daughter fall
down or something and like her mom puts her arms
out like come here, baby, I got you as a
nurturing mom.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
She's like, no, I won't die.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
And then like at that point it really clicked to
me like that never would have happened if you play football.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
No, she would have been very much more connected tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
To mom, Like that never would have happened. And then
at that point, God let me know, like you see
what you did. And it was like would you rather that?
Or would you rather And I was just like, don't
ask me that again, because I would choose this a
thousand times over again. And at that point I'm kind
of getting a little motion on talking about it now,
but like I think for sure, my daughter like saved me,
you know what I'm saying, save my body saved everything

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from me to be able to continue now to this day,
like doing music, doing acting, doing everything that I'm doing.
Like who says that I have the body to do that?
If I had been playing all the time or the
withal or.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
And more hits, I mean, then there's so much about
that too could pree with with hits and brain injuries
and concussions. So she did, she totally saying I.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Think it was all the earlier part of my divine
story to all that the day she was born the
same day and started training camp all the time, I
was just like wow, Like, but God does this pretty profusely,
like kind of repetitive. He's very open about, you know,
the decision he wants me to make.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
He makes them blatant.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Sometimes then you can see him.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, exactly why I predicated my whole life on seeing
them because I didn't have any role models besides my mom.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I didn't have anybody that played football. You know.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I wasn't one of those kids they got a chance
to meet an NFL player if all went to the NFL.
I didn't know any. My first NFL players I met
was on the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
So like it was all like all that stuff, and
I even have to go through that, like you know
what I mean, kind of getting out of that fandom,
but it really was wasn't.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Your peers exactly? Yeah, that's very different trying to get
used to pay.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Man and the Marxist where von Miller, Vernon Davis came
to our team, like we had Wes Welker, like all
these guys that I've been watching since I was a kid,
that I like, it takes delusion to think that you're
ever going to be in that position, you know what
I mean, So like to visualize yourself there better than that.
It's a thing that's under two percentile, you know, like
and if you're really breaking down, it's a one percent
hole like of like you know, the whole entire world.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
But we don't clude to other people from other countries, right.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Because they don't really have an implication if they're going
to make to the NFL.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
But now they do. Now they can make it.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
They can, Yes, they can. They just came out with
the list that's going to come out for next year.
It's pretty cool. So let's talk about all the other
things you were doing now. You mentioned the music and
you're getting your masters right now at CSU. Yeah, so
what is Capri Bibs doing now?

Speaker 1 (50:32):
So right now currently I'm getting my master's a CSU,
picked up another sociology degree as well.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
What do you getting your masters in sports management?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Just naturally because I feel like a lot of times,
like young kids from CSU from high school, like you know,
no matter what type of connection they end up happening
with me or their parents send them my way or
anybody from the networks that I've created over the last
fifteen twenty years of my life and me going about
it this way with God the entire time, people still
maybe the same exact way. So they come, hey, I

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got a kid, can you give them some advice?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Can you do this?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
And I just thought that, hey, like what would be
more credible than actually getting a license in this, you know,
and having everything. So I'm like, all right, let me
get my real credentials that way, if I don't even
have to ever want to do it, you know, with
everything that I'm doing, but at least it'll bring some validation.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Absolutely, Yeah, have your masters in it. That's great. I
love it. Then what are you doing with music?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
So I was signed to BTV Malik Yusaf for the
last four years. I'm newly independent, so I'm re getting
back on my own personal grind of it all. Not
being connected to any management teams and labels. I feel
like definitely slowed me down just because my natural work
ethic is kind of like a light speed on and yeah,

(51:49):
when I come to watch Out, Yeah, no, seriously, I
just think, Yeah, I think God does that for me.
He makes me wait a long time. But when I
finally start laying down something, it's.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Always go right. It's always diamond like nothing.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You can't scratch it or move it, you know, down
to my records, down to everything. Everything He's ever done
for me. He's always made me be super patient. But
when he decides all right, it's time, Now, it's time,
It's kind of like the whole world kind of goes
at a standstill, and it's kind of crazy to see
like that work ethic and the universe kind of like
respond to you. Yeah, like it's fun and what you

(52:23):
mean other people too, you know. I think that's also
a big implication because you know, I've never wanted to
just be this for myself. I never just wanted to
be me for myself. I wanted to be me so
I can help other people. I want to be me
so I can help my friends. You know that I
would see go through the same things that I would
go through, and just knowing that I would have the
words because I.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Already had to accumulate them yes, over time.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Which leads perfectly into my final question, which is always
what do you tell people when they're going through a
tough time and you have the opportunity to talk to
other athletes, other kids, and now you're in music or
any kind of sport, when they're doing those ups and downs,
what do you tell them on on how to move
forward and get through the tough times?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Honestly, tell you the truth, I think it's something as
well God brings to me because not everybody deserves the
same words, you know, and not just off the value
of Hey, no, your value is lower, so I'm not
going to give you no. Like everybody's on different journeys
and they like they're on difference levels of where they
need certain words to push them further. Like some people

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aren't ready for like the top notch words. Oh but
you know it can send them in a spiral, you
know what I mean, just being overly honest and telling
them things that they're not even about to embark on
for the next four or five years. I'm not going
to go and tell that person about four or five
years from now, you know what I mean about what
they're going to see. And know, I need you to
get over this first hump because I've seen guys lose

(53:47):
it over the first one. I've seen something you lose
it over the second or the third, you know what
I mean, and constantly when that adversity has to strike.
Because you can be a self proclaimed warrior. You can
say you're a warrior, but where's your scars? You know
what I mean, where's adversity that God actually put you through?
And you answer to it. They say like, no, I
am this person God like not to anybody else, but no,
this is who I am, and this is how I'm

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going to answer to this adversity.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
And some people aren't willing to do that with themselves.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
They usually find a shortcutter, they find this a way,
and then they have to deal with the realness of
it or finally learn the real lesson exactly like me, exactly.
So that's why I'm abe, you know, to do that.
And I never want to come across as somebody who
like asks like I know everything, because I'm kind of
like I'm learning on the fly too, but like.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I learn our whole lives for free. It's like, you know,
I know more at fifty five than I did at
thirty five. You know, It's just it's an accumulation.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, And I just think it's what's special about it
all is that, like, you know, I I already know
who I am. I don't ever have to shy away
from my words because I know, like malice doesn't live
in me, but protection does, right, you know, And from
that point on, I already know.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
From that I'm going to do the right thing. I'm
gonna go.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
And pursue if ever it is to help anybody, I'm
going to give them correct thing because I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Ask God first.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
When I ask God where they are in their life,
and I'm looking at them like damn, okay, all right,
like I see exactly what you got going on. I
remember I dealt with that at this point in my life. Okay,
all right, this is what you need. You need to
focus right here on this boom boom. You need to
get over this hump first before you can even think
about these next three four.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Humps, because we all get to that bigger picture mindset.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Like yeah, I need to look at but the whole bigger.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Picture, but the whole time, Like, you're not even going
to get to that bigger picture if you don't jump
over this little small.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Hurdle you got right here all right, being where your
feet are.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
You know, I always like to meet people where they are,
and I think that's also hurt me in my life,
you know what I mean, because when people have always
wanted to look at me as like this pillar, this
person that's like bigger than you know, and then what
they can actually explain, you know, like and then I
come to them, I'm like, no, I'm human and I'm
just like you, and I have struggles and I can

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look at you and have an hour long conversation and
we're one hundred percent fine because I am. I'm just talented,
but I'm one hundred percent human, absolute observing one, a
highly favored one.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Because I keep answering, you know what I mean to
everything I'm supposed to answer to.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
That's only difference.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
But outside of that, I don't want anybody to look
at me as I think I'm better than anybody or
I'm deader that like. No, I just want you to
know I may pay attention more than you do, but
that doesn't that doesn't make me better than you. That
mean that you may be pay attention more, it may
be answer more, and then now you will start answering
to different things, you know what I mean, rather than
you answer into the same thing for the next four.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Or five years.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Absolutely, no, I get it. I love you, Yeah, cater
your answer to the situation. I love it. Yeah, Capri.
This was awesome. Thank you. I haven't had a chance
to ever sit down with you like this and get
to know you this well, so this is great. I
really appreciate you taking the time, and I think people
are going to enjoy hearing more of your story and
good luck with everything.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
No, thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I appreciate you for having me one hundred and ten percent.
Been like ten years, you know.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
It has since we first met.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
So in order to be able to come sit down,
you know, it's all godspeed and literally divine time. And
so that's why I never fretted about it. I'm like,
we're gonna have our time. I'm sure, guys going to
bring it around. You a good person, great person since
I've ever met you, so you know, I knew it
was only a matter of time.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
So we got it done. Yeah, thanks Caprice, Thank you
so much. Thank you, Capri. New episodes of Cut, Traded, Fired,
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