Jill Dulich: Injured and guideless?

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Recently, we sat down with Jill Dulich to discuss how the workers' compensation system has changed over the past 50+ years. Here's a summary of our conversation: 

Guest: Jill Dulich | Director of Claims and Operations, California Self-Insurers Security Fund
Expertise: 52 years in workers' compensation (Marriott, 32 years; CSSF, 11 years)
Geographic Scope: Jill has managed claims in all states west of the Mississippi

ABOUT JILL

She's a living archive of what workers' compensation was, and could be again. Jill has spent 52 years in this industry, partly by maintaining her own humanity outside it: she walks to clear her head, loves to travel internationally (recent trips to New Zealand, Australia, France, Greece), and loves to explore other cultures with genuine curiosity.

THE CORE QUESTION

52 years ago, claims professionals were measured on early and frequent contact with injured workers.

Today, injured workers often feel "lost on an island with no support."

So, what changed? And what has it cost us? 

THEN vs. NOW

THEN (52 Years Ago)

• Role: Claims professionals guided injured workers through the complex system of workers' compensation
• Measure: Early, frequent contact and communication with injured workers
• Benefit: Injured workers felt supported; employers got predictability and faster resolution on their claims

NOW

• Role: Claims professionals manage procedures and systems
• Measure: High caseloads, case closure, compliance, efficiency
• Cost: Injured workers feel abandoned; employers lose goodwill and face more friction and litigation

THE PARADOX

Jill talks about how she struggled with anxiety early in her career as a claims professional. She didn't know she could ask for help. The work has always demanded emotional presence, and it takes a toll. It requires holding someone else's crisis while managing your own capacity.

Hmmm. Have we talked about managing capacity before? Yep!

At places like Marriott, where support was offered to claims professionals, it didn't eliminate the struggle. It made it survivable. Jill said it allowed her and others to show up, day after day, with empathy and compassion. 

Now? The job is harder, and we removed the safety net.

Complexity has increased exponentially. We've fragmented the role. And we've stripped away the human support mechanisms that made it possible to guide injured workers with empathy and compassion. Then we wonder why claims professionals are burning out at such a high and fast rate?

THE INSIGHT

Workers' comp was designed around one simple truth: Claims professionals are there to guide injured workers through complexity, and when that happens, everyone wins. 

We optimized for procedure. We lost sight of our mission.

The cost: We didn't just sacrifice the role's humanity; we sacrificed its effectiveness and the core mission. And somewhere along the way, we made the job unsustainable for our system guides: claims professionals. 

WHAT YOU'LL HEAR

• How the claims role was originally designed, and why it worked
• What we traded when we prioritized systems over relationships
• Why injured workers and employers both lost
• Are we ready to redesign for what actually works?

A DIRECT QUOTE FROM JILL

"We've sort of lost sight of who we're really here for. That's the injured worker—to make sure they are being taken care of, that they know what's happening, that they're communicated with and educated on the system."

A Socratic reflection: If you were measured on early, frequent contact with injured workers instead of case closure (speed), how would your day change?

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