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August 27, 2025 • 39 mins

🎙️ EP#362 | DSD | Nick Fuentes, Trump 2025 & The MAGA Betrayal

In this provocative solo episode, we deep dive into the rise—and transformation—of controversial political figure Nick Fuentes. From his early days of Clubhouse-era controversy to his current positioning as a sharp Gen Z thought leader, we unpack how his rhetoric, influence, and message have evolved—and why he's gaining massive traction among young conservatives. The host explores Fuentes’ criticisms of Trump’s political shift from 2016 to 2025, assessing whether MAGA has become a movement hijacked by billionaires and controlled opposition.

The episode also spotlights Fuentes’ pointed critiques of major players like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance, and even Candace Owens—connecting surprising dots across the tech, military, and political landscape. Through a curated selection of clips, we hear Fuentes confront “America First” hypocrisy, the bipartisan illusion, and the Israel lobby's influence in Trump's cabinet. The host asks hard-hitting questions: Was Trump always a fraud? Is Fuentes controlled opposition? And what does this mean for America’s future?

Listeners will walk away with an unfiltered, high-level understanding of how populism, power, and propaganda are colliding in real-time. Whether you love or loathe Nick Fuentes, this episode will challenge assumptions, ignite questions, and spotlight what’s coming next in the American political experiment.

🔥 Top 5 Key Points:

  • Fuentes’ evolution from Clubhouse troll to Gen Z political disruptor

  • The disillusionment with Trump’s 2025 administration and MAGA betrayal

  • Deep links between Silicon Valley billionaires and GOP power plays

  • Critique of Zionist influence in American politics and Trump’s cabinet

  • A breakdown of continuity in policy from Trump → Biden → Trump

🔑 Keywords & Themes:
Nick Fuentes, Donald Trump, MAGA 2025, Gen Z politics, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, J.D. Vance, Candace Owens, GOP billionaires, controlled opposition, Tucker Carlson, Clubhouse, populism, Israel lobby, neoconservatives, Palantir, CIA, deep state, political psyops, Trump betrayal, Scott Sieverts, Scott Horton, vaccine policy, Biden administration, Epstein files, American uniparty, media narratives

⏳ Chapters & Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro, green screen chaos & hair confessionals
01:37 – Shoutout to Scott Sieverts & “good hair day” podcasting
03:32 – Introducing Nick Fuentes: Why now?
04:02 – The Clubhouse controversy and his Gen Z influence
05:23 – Trump 2016 vs. Trump 2025: Has he sold out?
07:37 – OG MAGA voices: Nick, Candace, and the forgotten vision
10:00 – Fuentes on Trump’s transformation & Zionist cabinet picks
15:36 – Billionaire power brokers: Thiel, Musk, Vance, and Palantir
20:10 – Tucker, Vance, and the Silicon Valley-GOP nexus
24:38 – Is Fuentes ruffling feathers—or playing a role?
26:46 – Tucker & Candace turn on Fuentes
29:19 – Trump’s base betrayed: The Epstein file backlash
33:45 – Fuentes’ 80/20 critique and hard truths about Trump
36:05 – Continuity between Trump and Biden exposed
37:43 – What’s next? Upcoming guests & final thoughts

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🔥 Top 7 Key Points
đź§  Fuentes Is Evolving, Not Disappearing
🔀 Trump 2025 ≠ Trump 2016
đź’° Billionaires Are the Real Party Now
🕵️ Controlled Opposition Is on the Table
📉 MAGA May Have Been a Psyop
đź’Ą Tucker & Candace Are Changing
📢 Hard Truths About U.S. Foreign Policy


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(00:01):
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OK, let's go. Hey, what's up everybody, happy
Wednesday. Hope you guys are having a good
day. Hope you're having a good week.
All right, you know, God, I still am definitely in the the

(00:26):
development stage of kind of taking things to the next level
and trying to transition to thisvideo podcast, although it is
getting a lot better. Actually, this is pretty funny.
I have a green screen now and soI'm shooting against a green
screen. And then I've been like trying

(00:46):
to figure out the various software programs to basically
remove the green screen. Oh, I think I talked about this
in a in an episode a few few days ago or a few weeks ago.
The Chroma Key concept. Anyway, that Chroma Key concept
works incredibly well, except ifyou have sort of spiky hair.
And I have sort of spiky hair. I wouldn't really say spiky, but

(01:11):
anybody that really knows me knows what a freak I am about my
hair. I'm really into my hair.
I, I genuinely am like like almost.
I have this love, hate relationship with my hair.
I love it, but I hate it at the same time because it's a pain in
my butt. It genuinely is a pain.
It's really a pain. I can never get my hair the same

(01:31):
two days in a row. I genuinely can't.
I cannot get it to look the sametwo days in a row.
So like, here's a funny example.If you got a chance to well,
first of all, if you did not listen to Monday's episode with
Scott siverts, I, I really recommend you do.
I think it was one of I really think it was one of I know I say

(01:55):
this God, every episode I do, I'm like, I think it's the best
episode, but I genuinely think the episode was Scott with Scott
was so good. He's such a genuine guy and we
had such a real and honest conversation.
I personally really enjoyed it. I've listened to it a few times
myself and I've I've been able to pull out like so many good

(02:18):
like 6090 second reels for Instagram and TikTok in those
places. But he's such an articulate guy.
And again, it really, you know, the dude is like 6 foot four,
ÂŁ250. I mean, I'm not kidding, like
kind of picture the rock picturelike a white dude version of the
Rock, You know, from Philadelphia or from Pittsburgh.
But but he's so nuanced and he'sgot such a, you know, gentle

(02:43):
giant of a delivery. You know, I, I, I find him so
interesting. And I really, really enjoyed
that, that podcast with him and I enjoy talking to him in
general. I'm going to definitely be doing
some bigger things with him. So anyway, if you need any
chance to listen Monday's episode, I think it was #361 I,
I really do recommend you do. And then if you look at it on

(03:04):
YouTube and Spotify, man, my hair was looking amazing that
day. Luckily I recorded like 4
podcasts that day. So I'll 4/4 of them with, with
with the good hair. But then I recorded the next day
and like, I just couldn't get myhair to look the same.
Oh my God, the trials and tribulations that I have with my
hair. It's, it's just, it's madding.

(03:26):
It's madding. It makes me mad.
OK, All right, let's see, what do I want to talk about today?
You know, today I, I want to talk a little bit about this
Nick Fuentes kid. I really do.
And the main reason is because Ithink we're going to be hearing
a lot more from him. Actually, we're either going to

(03:48):
be hearing a lot more from him or they're going to completely
shut this kid down or God forbid, something worse.
But you know, I've had a few conversations with a few people
that just truly hate the kid. And when they talk about the
things he says, they're actuallytalking about him from like four

(04:08):
or five years ago. Because I think that's where he
got super controversial was during COVID on an app called
Clubhouse. I don't know if you guys
remember that app, but when COVID happened, this app
clubhouse kind of got crazy popular and it was almost like
a, you know, gigantic phone callbetween anyone that joined that

(04:30):
clubhouse or whatever. I think that's where he really
rubbed, you know, tons of peoplethe wrong way and, you know,
maybe got a really bad reputation or whatever.
But he was 20 years old at the time or 21 and he's only 26 or
27 now. But obviously I think you, you
mature so much during that time frame.

(04:53):
And, and I've really seen it from him.
I've actually listened to a lot of his stuff on Rumble and, and
I can tell you he is, he is highly intelligent, like, like,
like generational talent, like Scott said during the episode,
it really is. So I'm going to play a few
things and, you know, just, I guess get you introduced a
little bit to his mindset because I, I don't know, for

(05:15):
some reason, I feel like this kids going to going to really
shake some things up. I mean, I could be wrong, but I
know he absolutely is the leaderof a a tremendous amount of Gen.
Z kids. And I'm talking like hundreds of
thousands, if not in the millions.
I think he's really, really developing a following.

(05:38):
All right, let me play a couple things.
Let let's start with this and and you know what, I'm going to
play these segments for you and you decide for yourself what you
think about, you know, his mindset.
As I said in 2024, last year I said the value proposition of
Trump in 24 is fundamentally different.
In 2016, Trump said no lobbyists, no super PACs, no

(06:03):
donors. I'm your voice.
It was Trump against the whole world, Trump against the
corruption, against the special interests, the lobbyists, the
donors. It was like a Caesar like
moment. The premise of Trump 16 is that
he was going to reach into the country, as he said at his

(06:25):
announcement speech. He was going to literally take
the country and make it great. That's what he said.
I alone America needs a leader. I will literally take this
country and make it great again.OK, let me jump in real quick
because I think this is this is actually a great thing to talk

(06:45):
about. You know, 2016 Trump, not many
of us even remember 2016 Trump because quite frankly, so much
has happened between 2016 Trump to 2020 Trump to then 2020 four
Trump to then 2025 Trump. But 2016 Trump, again, I'll be

(07:07):
honest, I didn't even really think about him because I I
thought it was more of APR stunt, right?
But the people that followed 2016 Trump, I mean, the real
people that were, were basicallythe die hard Trump guys whom by
the way, many of him have now turned on him because of the way

(07:31):
he is in 2025 Trump. So like 2016 Trump, I mean,
those were like the OG Trump guys.
And by the way, Nick Fuentes wasone of them.
Candace Owens was one of them. Those were the people that
really like were, were were magnetized by Trump in 2016.

(07:53):
And those were the people, again, Nick Fuentes being a
perfect example. I mean, gosh, how old was that
kid in 2016? Oh my God.
He was probably 18 or 19. And I think I've got a clip that
talks about that. But anyway, those were the
people that that that honestly probably understood politics
better than the rest of us. Because for for for those of you

(08:17):
even right now listening that hate Trump, that like viscerally
hate Trump. You didn't start hating them in
2016. You didn't 2016 you thought he
was The Apprentice guy. You know, you might not have
liked, you know, you're fired orthat stuff, but you did not
viscerally hate Trump in 2016 use or 2015 for sure.

(08:42):
Maybe you started hating him when he took over the as
president and then the mean tweets.
And then really more than anything, maybe the way he
empowered some, you know, let's call him white nationalist for
lack of a better way of saying it.
Maybe the way he empowered some white nationalist to like to

(09:03):
like stand up and maybe be racist and stuff.
Maybe that's when the tide started turning and you started
hating him. But just remember something
before Donald Trump ran for president, honestly, I don't
think anybody really hated him. I mean, tons of people
absolutely loved him. That's a fact.

(09:23):
I mean, the dude is in like 500 rap songs.
And so nobody really hated him then.
And So what Nick's talking aboutin that first part of it and and
what he's talking about in termsof the value proposition of
Trump, I love the way he even words that, you know, 2016 Trump
was a completely different person than even 2025 Trump,

(09:48):
even 2020 four Trump before winning.
And then especially, as I've said before, the guy that got
inaugurated January 20th, 2025, this is a completely different
person. And understand the subtext.
The subtext was anti corruption.MAGA was a populist, anti

(10:14):
corruption campaign. He was the people's champion, he
said. I am the people's voice, he
said. Americans don't come first
because the lobbyists, special interests, the donors, foreign
countries, multinational corporations, international
banks are being put first, he said.

(10:35):
But I'm not controlled by them. I will take the country.
I will make it great. Such a powerful idea.
It didn't happen. He sold out immediately.
Maybe the whole thing was fake. All right, that clip ended
there. And he's right.
He sold out immediately. Literally January 20th or 21st,

(10:58):
the day got inaugurated. Now the question is, there's two
questions. One, maybe the whole thing was
fake, absolutely honestly. And if the whole thing was fake,
then all of the liberals, thank you, Greg Stoker, were right,
but you were right for the wrongreasons, you know, and all the
people that hated Trump were right.

(11:19):
But again, you're right for the wrong reasons.
You're not right because you hate him because he's an anti,
you know, whatever racist. That's that's not why you're
right. You're right, because he's no
different than the globalists that have come before him.
He's no different than George W Bush.

(11:40):
You know, I'm coming to the realization that that
neoconservative group of folks, George W Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney,
actually all of the people that Scott Horton talked about in the
episode with Scott Horton, whichby the way, I hope you guys
really enjoyed that episode too.Honestly, I thought Scott, man,
Scott is like a walking encyclopedia.

(12:02):
And honestly, I was a little worried about that episode
because I just thought it was just too high level.
I really did. And and you know what?
I realized I'm like, maybe it was too high level for me
because I did get a lot of positive feedback and had had
many people say, hey, that was the best episode you ever did.
So anyway, I really appreciate that.
I, I, I am going to try to get Scott back on because there's

(12:24):
some more, you know, pinpointed questions that I, that I just
did not ask. I'll be honest, I was a little
bit nervous for that one becausehe's a high level guy, man.
Dude has been on, you know, justcame from Tucker Carlson 3 weeks
before recording with me. So I definitely was a little bit
nervous. I will admit that, OK, what I
was saying, though, was in termsof in terms of kind of what Nick

(12:49):
said in that clip, I mean, I really do agree.
The, the, the, the, the, the difference in Trump is, is
dramatic from 2016 to 2025. Oh, what I was going to say was,
so it's one of two things. Was he always that guy?
Like was he always 2025 Trump? And he just really pulled the
wool over all of our eyes, myself included, maybe or, or

(13:12):
was it like Jay Slay USA said inthat episode, you know, was that
quote UN quote assassination attempt like a warning shot?
And basically as soon as that happened, that's really when he
started acting totally differently.
And especially when he got swornin to office and everything

(13:36):
changed. You know, another thing Scott
Siverts and I Scott from Monday talked about on the podcast, if
you listened and and and if you picked up on it, you know, he
has appointed such AI mean everyone in his cabinet is like
pro Israel to the Max, like, youknow, Zionist to the Max.

(13:59):
And I, I remember, and you guys might remember like I was super
happy when he didn't appoint Nikki Haley or Mike Pompeo who
are also like like, just just like almost like like psychotic
at their support for Israel. Like it's just it doesn't even
make sense how you could like like cock for another country as

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much as those two do. But when he didn't appoint those
early on, I was like, you know, right on.
This is great. He's not bringing, he's not
bringing those like neo con trash into his organization.
I was more I was more happy because again, I just think so
low so little of Nikki Haley andMike Pompeo.
But now I'm realizing on the episode with Scott Severs, I

(14:45):
said, God, now I'm surprised he didn't give them a position.
But now I think he didn't give them a position on purpose
because that was at the very beginning.
And so he kind of tricked us with that.
And then right after that was when he filled the entire
cabinet with with really, reallyhardcore, you know, right wing

(15:08):
people like Marco Rubio, like Pete, like Pete Hagseth, like
this Pam Bondi, who is the attorney general.
And by the way, she took Matt Gaetz's spot.
And remember, Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Green are the
two quote UN quote, MAGA Trump, you know, fan club people that

(15:29):
are really going against the narrative.
So anyway, all right, that was clip number one of of NICs.
I thought that was worth listening to.
Now let's listen to this one. Peter Thiel, the FBI informant
and CIA contractor. Elon Musk, the defense
contractor and PayPal Mafia member with Peter Thiel, close

(15:53):
confidant of David Sachs and JD Vance, who brokered the David
Sachs fundraiser with Silicon Valley and Trump.
All right, let me jump in here. All right, so now he's going to
go at these guys and and I mean,again, this is incredibly astute
and there is an unbelievable relationship between Elon Musk,

(16:15):
Peter Thiel. If you don't know who Peter
Thiel is, he he was basically Elon Musk's Co founder with
PayPal. Those guys really came up
together and now he's a very, very eclectic billionaire.
That's also the Co founder of Palantir, which that's received
a lot of controversy over the past, you know, 6 to 9 months

(16:39):
really coinciding with Trump's inauguration.
And so JD Vance was a was and issomebody that that Peter Thiel
literally picked out of I think Harvard Law School and they've
really groomed him to be who they want.

(16:59):
That's totally true. And then who else did he talk
about? He talked about Peter Thiel,
Elon Musk, JD Vance. Oh, and David Sachs.
We've talked about David Sachs. Actually.
He was part of that All In podcast.
Remember a long time ago I did an episode where I narrated on
top of those guys having Professor John Mearsheimer and

(17:20):
Professor Jeffrey Sachs. Anyway, David Sachs is part of
that crew. He's kind of the head of crypto
for Trump. But again, he's another
billionaire that's part of that world that that's part of that
technocratic oligarch group, oligarch, sorry, group of
billionaires that are all the Silicon Valley guys that are all

(17:42):
buddies, you know, Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, all these guys.
Listen, I think what's become incredibly apparent for me is
it's no longer Republicans and Democrats.
It's not like they're they're done with that.
It's basically, you know, billionaires versus everybody

(18:03):
else. I think they've formed their own
party. I'm being serious.
I think I think they've really kind of kind of decided, hey,
you know what, this, this right versus left, Democrats versus
Republicans. Let's let the masses fight it
out with that, we're going to kind of, you know, all join
together. I really do.

(18:24):
I think that's where they've come to.
And again, Trump's their guy. He's their unifying, unifying
guy. But more importantly, JD Vance
is the unifying guy. I think JD Vance's is definitely
the heir apparent to all of that.
OK, let's hear what he says about these guys.
Mentored by Peter Thiel, men toured by David Frum, who worked

(18:48):
for Bill Kristol with Tucker Carlson.
Teal, Musk and Tucker lobby Trump to pick Vance, and they
said if you don't, the CIA will kill you.
Man, he is calling out everybodyand really connecting the dots.
And by the way, that's that's definitely true.
Peter Teal, David Sachs, Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson, he was

(19:12):
in that. They're the ones that really
backed JD Vance. And from everything I've read
and heard, they're the ones thatconvinced Trump to pick JD Vance
as his vice president. And again, remember, JD Vance
came out of nowhere. All of the sudden in 2022, he

(19:33):
becomes a senator in Ohio. And by the way, he was
practically the only Republican to win that year.
Remember, 2022 is the Biden administration.
The Democrats were at the helm and JD Vance was was one of, if
not the only Republican to win aSenate seat and to flip a Senate

(19:57):
seat. That's weird, man.
That's weird, especially for a guy that has zero political
background and kind of came out of nowhere.
Who's the CIA? Who does the CIANSAFBIDHS?
Who do they all contract with? Volunteer Palantir, founded by

(20:18):
Peter Thiel and Alex Karp and Joe Lonsdale.
Israel First Jews that after October 7th flew their board to
Israel and provided them with facial recognition technology to
murder Palestinians. All right, I'm not a fan of
dropping the J bomb the way he does, but that part is true.
After October 7th, 7th, the Palantir board did fly to

(20:40):
Israel. They had a meeting with
President Isaac Herzog and they basically gave this incredible
facial recognition software to the Israeli IDF and that was
used to target Palestinian people.
I mean, they claim they were targeting quote, UN, quote,
Hamas. But obviously we all know that
what's been killed more than anything, considering we've

(21:04):
never seen one dead Hamas soldier anywhere in social media
or the news. And all the doctors that I've
had on the podcast had never treated a Hamas soldier in any
of their stays in Gaza. You know, all of that software
has gone to killing innocent women and children.

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JD Vance, who upon becoming the VP nominee in his first
interview said we're going to bomb Iran, who went to the
Quincy Institute and said we need a pro Israel spin on
America first. Tucker, who interviewed Vance 46
times on his show. Vance hired his son.
Vance's Rockbridge network was the spawning point of 1789

(21:49):
capital founded by Rebecca Mercer and Claire monster Chris
Buskirk, which gave Tucker $15 million.
Rebecca Mercer funded Steve Bannon at Breitbart that spawned
Milo Yiannopoulos's career and Rebecca Mercer hand selected
George Farmer Tanis Owens husband to run Parlor in 2021.

(22:13):
All right, you know what, he dropped a lot of names that I'm
not even that familiar with, buttake my word for it because I
looked them all up. He connected all of those dots,
including connecting the dot to Candace Owens's husband, this
guy George Farmer. And remember that parlor app?

(22:34):
Do you guys remember that parlorapp?
It really launched in 2021 to tobasically, I think take the
place of Twitter or something. If you remember, Parler was
considered, you know, like the Trump conservative Republican
app. And I think it got shut down.

(22:54):
I don't think it could get hosting services anywhere.
So like Amazon's web hosting, Microsoft's web hosting, all of
those platforms would not allow Parler to host with their
servers. And so man, he really connected
all those dots. Even if you don't know any of
those people, just know everybody that he mentioned are

(23:17):
incredibly influential conservative Republicans that
are all basically tied into, youknow, I'd say the pro Israel
faction for lack of a better wayof saying it.
And by the way, this is just thetruth, man.
This is just calling a spade a spade.
So don't read anything more intoit than just.

(23:39):
This is exactly what's happeningright now.
This is why they want me dead. Who's the Fed?
Who's the Fed here? Because I brought all the
receipts. All right, that was a funny way
to end it. That's why they want him dead.
I mean, I'm going to knock on wood because I don't wish that
on anybody, but man, it is definitely it is it is

(24:02):
plausible. I will say it is plausible that
that something happens to this poor kid because he is, he is
really, really ruffling feathers.
Now, here's the flip side of this.
So the flip side is, man, this is this is where my brain goes.
Then you think, well, are they allowing him to ruffle these

(24:25):
feathers if he's ruffling the feathers of the most powerful
people? Now all of a sudden, the
pendulum of power has absolutelyshifted to the Republican Party,
OK? It's like the Democrats are
nowhere to be found. Where are the Democrats?
Like, who's even? Who's even in charge of that

(24:47):
party anymore? Like, honestly, the only
Democrat right now that is making any noise is Gavin
Newsom. That's it.
And he's a governor. You know, he's the governor of
California. He's not necessarily part of
Congress. But the rest of those guys, they
are really nowhere to be found. So my point is the Republican

(25:10):
Party is really in charge right now.
And, and, and I'll be honest, I mean, I don't think this is
good. I really don't.
I think it's heading in a very, very precarious direction.
And I've absolutely kind of changed a lot of my thoughts on
on a lot of the stuff I really have.
So now with Nick Fuentes being this vocal, you then wonder,

(25:34):
well, if he's really ruffling all their feathers, why are they
letting him talk? You would think they would have
shut him down by now. So, you know, that makes you
think, oh, man, what what does that mean?
Is this like, is he controlled opposition?
Are they letting him do this on purpose?
Is there 4D chess going on? Who the hell knows on that.
But OK, that was that was a hardcore clip of his.

(25:57):
Let's listen to this one. I'm going to actually play kind
of what Tucker Carlson said about Nick.
I don't know if I played this the last time, but listen to
what Tucker Carlson said. And this was during his
interview with Candace Owens. Nick Fuentes, who's like some
child from Chicago who I mean togo after him.

(26:19):
Specifically, one congressional seat in Washington state.
As random. It's not random though.
It's the opposite of random. Joe Kent was #1 on the list.
Just a quick bit of context. So in this clip, Tucker was
talking about how Nick Fuentes went at went after this Joe Kent
guy. I don't even know who Joe Kent
is. But the thing I want you to pay

(26:40):
attention to is, you know, again, you guys know what a fan
of Tucker's I've been and Candace for that matter.
But during this interview, I mean, both of them, I've really
held them in the highest regard,but during this interview, they
just sounded different. Tucker sounded different.
You know, they came off very like bitter and and really

(27:02):
weird. So like, listen to this part.
This is just weird. It's very off brand on what I've
heard out of Tucker's mouth for really for five years now, since
COVID even. Of people they wanted to knock
off people who believe in our neo con foreign policy.
They wanted Joe Kent out becausehe could stand up and say I
actually know I've got their seats, my wife.

(27:23):
Was killed in Syria. You had to take that guy out and
Nick Fuentes, this child, this weird little gay kid in his
basement in Chicago, is participating in a super PAC to
bump off Joe Kent. Like, I've been around this my
whole life. I know what that is.
All right, I had to look this upto try to piece this together.
So it seems like this Joe Kent guy was like super far right,

(27:48):
kind of, you know, like like like crazy Trump supporter, you
know, said the election was rigged.
He's like connected to the ProudBoys and all that.
Now, from what that clip soundedlike and then the research I
did, you know, Tucker Carlson's always kind of defended Joe
Kent, which is a little bit interesting because to me, Joe

(28:10):
Kent falls into this war mongering neoconservative guys,
military industrial complex, allthat stuff, right?
And because his wife was killed in Syria, I guess you would
think he's one of these like, you know, Muslims are bringing
the world down, let's kill all of them.
OK, now it seems Tucker's not really like that anymore.

(28:36):
But the fact that he got so defensive about Joe Kent, that's
a little weird. That's a disconnect.
OK, Now Nick, on the other hand,attacked Joe Kent and he went
after Joe Kent. So to me, that's not a
disconnect. That's perfectly on brand for
what Nick is all about. And that goes to Nick basically

(29:01):
no longer supporting Trump. Not only does he not support
Trump anymore, he's pretty visceral against Trump, which
you can hear it in this clip. And now he says if you're not on
board with the Epstein cover up,oh, I don't want your support,
you're a weakling. Fuck you, You, you suck.

(29:24):
You are fat. You are a joke, you are stupid,
you are not funny. You are not as smart as you
think you are. You and honestly, I'm and if you
watch my show, you know, I've been very critical.
I've never been this far. This just goes to show this
entire thing has been a scam. When we look back on the history

(29:47):
of populism in America, we are going to look back on the MAGA
movement as the biggest scam in American history.
And the liberals were right. The MAGA supporters were hat
they were. When we look back in history, we
will see Trump as a scam artist who served as a vehicle for this
rather than the other way around.

(30:08):
We were not the vehicle for Trump.
Trump was the vehicle for all ofus.
That's another incredible statement.
I mean, basically he's saying Trump was the Trojan horse.
You know, Trump was the Trojan horse that filled everyone in
his belly and got across the line.
And then you open up the door and you're like, wait a minute,

(30:29):
this is not what we thought. It was your supporters stuck
with you through everything. Stormy Daniels, the Steele
dossier, the impeachments, the insurrection.
I mean, his supporter stuck withhim through everything, even his
failures. He says they they will never
learn. It's like, hey dumbass, your

(30:50):
supporter stuck. It stuck by you through
everything. What do you mean they didn't
fall for all that stuff? I'm telling you, This is why I
think highly of this kid. Again, that is such a good
point. You know, the Trump supporters
stuck with him through all of that stuff, Rig 2020 election,
actually take it back to 2016, the Russia hoax, the Steele

(31:13):
dossier, you know, all of those criminal trials, the 2020
election. It's like anything that Trump
would do or that I'm sorry, anything that they would do
against Trump, man, his supporters absolutely had his
back. And then all of a sudden here we
are three weeks ago and he's calling his supporters stupid

(31:35):
and saying I don't need you anymore or I don't want you if
you want to continue to ask me for the Epstein files.
That's a huge disconnect. That really is, it's very
astute. The way he pointed that out.
This is. Real.
And now people are mad. He says the weaklings are doing

(31:55):
the Democrats work. I don't want their support
anymore. Thank you for your attention to
this matter. Hey you.
Hey, fuck you fat ass. Really.
I'm so sick of this. He thinks he's so funny.
You're not funny, you're a joke.Thank you for your attention to
this matter. You are a fucking cornball, OK?
All right, again, for those of you that don't know, that's how

(32:18):
Trump ended a few different liketweets either on Truth Social or
on Yeah, I think it was on TruthSocial.
He's like, thank you for your attention to this matter.
I mean, it was corny is very corny.
I mean, man, he really nailed itwith that clip.
God, every clip I every clip I play from Nick, it's like the 1
is better than the previous. All right, and I think that goes

(32:42):
this will be the last one again.All right, let's listen to this
and then I'll give you a little summary.
Like 80% of the population, they're low IQ, low IQ
followers, whatever you want to call it.
There is a 2080 principle or an 8020 principle.
And here's what I mean by this. We're at the point now where you
have these basic normies. They're just discovering Israel.
At the same time, I go and criticize Trump for something or

(33:04):
another thing, and people say, yeah, but I mean, the Democrat
would have been worse, don't youthink?
But the Democrats would have been far worse.
This is better than Kamala, wouldn't you say?
You know, again, I think that isso good.
And honestly, I can say I'm guilty of that thought process.
Like the thought process of, well, this is better than
Kamala. This would have been better than

(33:25):
Kamala. I think I've I gosh, I might
have even said that on various episodes, but I'm definitely
guilty of that thought process for sure.
Now listen to what he says aboutthat thought process.
I think this is incredibly, incredibly intelligent.

(33:45):
And to me, this is just such like a basic mechanism of
control, which is how the regimewill pay.
The will play the right off of the left.
The right and left are the same.And yet it needs to be said over
and over and over again. The Republicans, the fucking
Republicans. The Republicans are just as bad
as the Democrats. They always have been.
Who brought us to Iraq, the Republicans.
Who made the economy the way it is.

(34:07):
Republicans. Where did where did NAFTA come
from? Yeah, Bill Clinton signed it,
but it came from the Republicans.
It's like, so, you know, people like to say, oh, you know, but
the Dems, but the left, but this, that and the other.
The Republicans are the same. They are virtually the same.
The platform is effectively indistinguishable.
They have the same donors. They go to the same parties.
They're the same people. Now, whether you or I are voting

(34:29):
Republican or Democrat, whether we watch Fox News or MSNBC,
we're still goyum. We're still stupid wage slaves.
We're still a bunch of stupid disenchanted, or I should say
disenfranchised wage slaves thatare eating Zog slop watching
slop on TV. And here we are arguing it
should be Biden. It should be Trump.
OK, really quick, I wanted to jump in.
I did listen to the rest of thisand I, and I want to preface

(34:50):
this with, I fact checked everything he's about to say and
it's completely accurate. And so in your mind, I want you
to think about Trump 2016 to 2020, Biden 20/20 to 20/20/24
and now Trump again because he'sgoing to talk about continuity.
So he says whether it's Trump orBiden or Trump, there's

(35:11):
continuity. There's continuity equity.
Trump armed the Ukrainians first, Biden continued it.
Trump gave us the vaccine, Bidenmandated it.
Trump started the Chinese tariffs.
Biden did the CHIPS act and continued the tariffs.
Trump created the corporate tax rate.
Biden kept it in place. Trump extended it when he got
back in. It's all the same shit.
It's always been all the same shit.

(35:31):
So I and like I said, I feel like, I feel like George Carlin
saying that. I feel like an edgy midwick when
I say, oh, it's all one big cluband you ain't in.
Yeah, I feel like a big fucking stupid midwick when I say that.
And yet it still needs to be said because you have these
dummies that are like, we have to vote Republican every time
forever or else the Democrats, they're going to what?

(35:52):
They're going to make a vaccine.They're going to let in illegal
aliens. Trump did the same thing.
So, you know, the promise of Trump is that he was going to
break us out of that. He didn't.
And now we need to recognize he's just another Republican
candidate and act accordingly. That was.
Here's my message. I mean, man, that is a hard
truth. That is really a hard truth.
The promise was that Trump was aguy that was going to breaks out

(36:14):
of that. I've actually talked about that
a lot. I, I have said I did think he
was, you know, the breaker of chains, the dude that was going
to like, you know, bring an end to this uniparty concept.
And it just doesn't seem like it's happening now again, is
that because he's under duress because of the assassination?

(36:34):
All that was that all something that changed them or man, has
this been a a controlled opposition psyop since 2016?
I don't know. Let's see what happens.
Let's see what plays out. But anyway, I can't believe I
did an entire episode on Nick. That's pretty funny.
But I hope it was good. I hope it was interesting.

(36:56):
I mean, I hope that, you know, he brought things that we should
all think about. And again, there's a few people
in particular I'm thinking aboutright now.
I know you hate Nick Fuentes, but I think you hate 2020 18
year old Nick Fuentes. I really do.
I don't think or, or 21 year oldNick Fuentes, I don't think

(37:19):
you've consumed enough of 2627 year old Nick Fuentes.
And God, that is insane that that we're talking these young
ages. I mean, you know, even
everything that he said here, ifthis was the first time you
would ever heard of Nick Fuentesor heard him, that's pretty
impressive that that's coming out of a mouth.

(37:40):
That's coming out of the mouth of a 26 or 27 year old.
Anyway. All right everybody.
So on Thursday I'm going to release just another really good
episode. It's the interview with Doctor
Mark Bronner. He's the the big white dude
doctor that went to Gaza. It's really good.
It actually reminds me in many ways of the interview with Scott

(38:02):
Sieverts that I released on Monday.
I might come back on Friday myself or actually release
another interview. I've got a great health
interview with a food scientist,Brian Lau or Brian Lay.
Actually. I'm sorry, my man Brian.
His episode is incredibly interesting because we go from

(38:23):
talking about beef jerky to taking LSD at Burning Man.
It's pretty wild. So maybe Friday, if I don't get
a chance to record myself, I'll release the episode with Brian,
which is obviously not geopolitical at all.
It's kind of a different vibe. So all right, everybody, that's
it. Call a spade a spade, call your
parents and we will talk to you soon.

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