August 12, 2025 • 26 mins
Helen of Troy may have been instrumental in the trojan war but, with Kyle and Helen here on Below Deck, no trojans were used. Join host Amy Phillips for the Spiciest 'Below Deck' Episode Recap of the latest 'Below Deck' episode! Emily Dorezas (@emdorezas) is in the house as we dive into the wildest charter guests ever, an insane eight-course meal with controversial red wine pairings, and the crazy crew night out. Who needs a banana boat when you have drinks and the men's bathroom? From Kyle's jaw-dropping double-talk and Helen's sketchy behavior. Plus, meet unsung hero Rainbeau and witness the feathers fiasco. Don't miss out on the drama, darling!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Drama, Darling drama, Darling drama, Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yello and welcome. We're doing blaw deeck and we've got
a lot to catch up on. This was quite the
spicy episode. Emily Dresis is here.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hi ems loving this season.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome in, Hi, thank you, I'm welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I want to say, like, I wasn't expecting to love
this season as much as I am.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's an unexpected season. Certainly, I'm surprised that this is
even happening the way it is. This is the craziest season.
This was the craziest charter, guests and drama that I
think we've ever had in one charter, The way that
this has gone down.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I mean, I I believe you. I can't. I can't
argue with that, mainly because I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, none of us can really remember, but we might.
We might as well just get right into the Kyle
because you know, and he was on Watch Happens Live
last night, which I did watch, and I was able
to see and how he spoke to this. So that
being said, oh, that was the craziest I was gonna
say I because I thought the craziest thing we were
(01:28):
going to talk about was that they served red ass
wine with every course of that meal.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Every fish dish came with a red ass wine.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hmmm, well, you know what, Jersey loves red wine? Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Jerseys? So I guess so, Emily, I am.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Beginning to think you have a real problem with red
wine in general, and so I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Have to red wine.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm gonna have to turn the tables on you. I'm
turning the tables, all right. So, first of all, as
we spoke about how I had the nerve of buying
a pinot noir in the summertime from Summer Costco, and
I got raked over the coals from that from you,
(02:15):
I will have you know that a lot of people
enjoy a light red in the summer, chilled, chilled, thank you. Okay,
So now let's turn over to this. There's nothing wrong
with having red wine with your entire dinner. If you
start with it and you don't want to switch over
(02:37):
to white for the fish, that's fine, okay, Okay, So
what is your problem with them drinking so much red wine? Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't know why they're not drinking Ramona Pino. Yeah,
I just it just hit me a little bit. I
was like, that's another glass of red wine, and this
is three fish dishes in a row, where I just
was surprised, because if you're going to do an eight
course oftentimes and you are a wine drinker.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You're gonna switch up the wines.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, I remember, believe I can't believe I remember this,
by the way, from a very early below deck, but
when they were doing an eight course meal or however,
maybe six to eight, I don't know how many, but
it was the whole thing where the guests were requesting
different wines for each course. So to your point, yes,
(03:38):
I agree that you know, to stick with one red
throughout the whole thing. Yeah, personally I think that's, you know,
an error to the cuisine. But if that's what they're
into and they're happy with that, very low key, easy
on the servers. I remember a long time ago this
(03:58):
was such a huge, huge undertaking to pull all these
bottles of different wine pairings with the with the meals,
with the courses, and then having to switch out the glasses,
oh my gosh, and so they were having to wash
the glasses in between. I don't know if y'alls remember that,
but yeah, holler at me if you do.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, I guess I've just been I don't know. Maybe
it's not something I really like if as a person
I'm into, but I just know you see all the time,
like a wine pairing menu when you're having a multiple
course dinner. So anyway, yes, I thought, there's that red
wine again. There it is me everywhere I go.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You're getting started.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
She's in Santa Clarina, Clarina, Clarina.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So now that we've talked about the most you know,
polarizing part of the episode, which everybody whins talking about, yes,
we can just get on and just talk about the
little stuff. So we'll talk about We'll talk about Kyle,
I mean, why not. And they're out, they're out for dinner,
their crew night out after this charter leaves and they
(05:10):
give a very bad tip which was really disappointing, sixteen
hundred each and everyone's life shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They didn't even pretend and that was really I've never
seen them just well I guess we have, but like
that was still like such a kick to the gut hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
After having to deal with that drunken woman as an
eight course meal.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, and also just like trying to make up the
difference the whole time in terms of giving them better
service than ever. Or you know, I think the charter
guests also thought that they gave a good tip. I
don't think that they were punishing them. I think that
they thought it was good. And I was like, didn't you.
(05:56):
And I kind of realized that they had some kind
of reality background these people, like they knew what they
were getting into.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Because they had been on the boat before or I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, you know, they had some kind of or maybe
I read this that they had some kind of connection
to the Jersey Housewives, like they've been in the mix.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really, Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, okay, I read that somewhere or something.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Not Mob Wives, Jersey Housewives.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The house like the New Jerseywives.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But anyway, so like they were schooled in reality television
in some way, and so I'm like, they've watched the show.
They know if they give a bad tip, like right.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. All right. So then we
get into the van and we're on our way out,
and this is when the rumor is started. The episode's
called Rumor Mill or whatever, and Kyle starts talking about
how you know, Helen was using him as a flotation
device and that she knew what she wanted, and then
he starts saying that his d went into her p
(06:58):
and that he was like, we can't do this right now, Helen.
So that's the beginning of him sharing that that potentially
something may have happened in the sea when he was
like floating her, and we kind of leave that. There
were then at dinner, and I have never seen two
(07:20):
people close a deal faster before in my life.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I mean, like, wow, in a more disgusting place.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh God, I thought they were gonna they I thought
they were on the beach and it was going to
happen there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Why wouldn't that Why wouldn't they It was so much better,
it was dark.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They must have gotten kicked out. Maybe they got get
kicked out point because it was the public, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I was wondering too if camera wise they're not allowed
in if he goes into a bathroom stall or something.
But they were under the urinal like I just didn't know,
I mean, because the cameras were one part of the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But magine it looked like how's your head doing under that?
Yaneal comfortable Jazz taking a picture was you know, childish
and crazy, and I just thought that's so inappropriate, but.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well I immediately thought of like revenge porn stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so yeah, I don't know, man.
The thing about that is that this kid, they obviously
kind of crossed their t's and dotted their eyes because
we couldn't see her. We could only see him.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
In the sex picture.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right. She knew she was on camera. She allowed it
to happen. She was she was allowing to be filmed.
She came back in from that bathroom like like the
Chili's Birthday song, like Happy Happy Birthday. I was ill,
glad you're here. I was like, wow, she's clapping for
her own.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I didn't know if she knew that they knew. I
thought maybe she thought that they were just clappy, you
know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I don't know what she was clapping about, but I mean,
I think it's pretty obvious they're coming back, and honestly,
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
This is like I just was like respect because I
was like, you are living like you're living dogs, just
like Kyle and owning it and it's like, good for you.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, yeah, she she wanted what she wanted and
she got what she got, and you know what she got.
She did what she did. You know, that's good. That
was something that she wanted and she got it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
She was on and said form I agree, put my
full face on this.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know, it's kind of amazing. Oh wow, Yeah, I
had a problem with the picture. I think it was
really weird that she did that. I think it's really
weird that they showed it, regardless of her signing off
on all that. It's very weird in this day and age,
you know, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So like this scandabal stuff where we learned so much
about that kind of thing. I was like, wow, Bravo,
that's a choice.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And on Watch What Happens Live, he was asked about
that and he was like, you know, the picture I
thought was really inappropriate. I don't know how he said it,
but he was like, all right, what did you think
about that? And he was like, I don't care, it's fine.
He thought it was funny. He was fine with it.
So it was just strange. But that's that Kyle apparently said.
(10:29):
And I didn't hear this because you know, I didn't
hear that Kyle said this until the hot tub when
Selaine told us that he came back and said she
was better than you, which is very strange. I didn't
hear that part, did you.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I didn't hear it either until it was repeated. There's
a lot of Kyle dialogue happening in this episode that
I'm not sure where it's going or I didn't hear it.
I feel like I'm missing something. There's a lot of
that this episode. For me, with him, for being the
focus of the episode, I was confused a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, yeah, because he's talking out of two sides of
his mouth. I mean, he's he is leading us down
the path of him saying that he didn't do it
or that he did do it, and then he completely
back pedals and says that he didn't do it, and
then nothing happened. So and then he continues to do
that all throughout this episode and then continues to kind
(11:22):
of also do it on Watch What Happens Live. So
at the end of the episode, you know, he ultimately
says to the producer when the producers asked him what
really happened, and he's like, oh, you mean, was it
a joke. Give Helen a call, right, and so so
then we're left with another cliffhanger. Then on Watch What
Happens Live, and he was really drilling down and being like, so,
(11:42):
what did this happen? Did this not happen? And then
Kyle said there was a time in the sea where
I thought something potentially may have happened, but it didn't.
And then he's like okay, and then he says she
was moving my hands toward her chest and then Andy says,
was you're d out? And he says no, and then
(12:03):
Andy says, why did you tell the crew at the
end in the interview that this may have happened? He said,
I don't know, I don't know why, but nothing happened.
I don't know why I said it. I don't know
why I said it, but there was a point in
my brain where I thought, this is is this actually
going to happen? But it didn't. Do You see She's
going back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The other challenge with Kyle is I think it's maybe
even a tick he has where yeah, it was a
question he freezes and then agrees yeah, and then verbally
says something else he like freezes and shakes his head
a little like yeah, yeah, and then but then says
the opposite, So I much yeah, oh, I don't know
what this is.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't know what it is, but it is the
most confusing thing in the world and where you're kind
of left with at the end of the day. Here's
where I have an issue with this with the captain
and what happened here is that he didn't start none
with Helen. Okay, he was in the sea, she took
off her top, she told him to hold her like
(13:04):
a flotation device. He was put into a situation that
he never should have been put into. And if she
was moving her hands towards her chest, that is absolutely
us a and there was no consent. This is her
abusing all the privileges of the situation and a person.
(13:24):
And when he was called up to the captain and
saying did you or did you not? You know him
like emphatically saying no. Ultimately he's protecting her because and
like why wasn't it that Fraser and Domo were like,
he needs to go and tell the captain what she did,
(13:46):
not what he did, you know what I mean? Like
that to me was weird, and I know like.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I was kind of holding off because I wanted to
see this whole thing because also last episode, we were
unclear what was going to play out in this episode,
because we weren't sure if the if there was going
to be a hookup with a guest coming up, because
there was no way that he had sex with her
in the water in front of anybody from what we saw.
(14:16):
But that said, I was still like, she's in a
power position. What the hell's he supposed to do right now?
Like he can say no, and like that would have
also affected everything. Like I do.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Feel like I think he did say I know, I
think he said this can't happen right now. I think
he did sort of utter that at some point and.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
About the sex. But just like to your point, just
being naked and holding her up, Yeah, Like that was
crazy that he was happy he was out there doing that,
And I don't think that would have happened had Kelly
not been escorted off the boat. I think everybody was
kind of working out of their comfort zone to give
these people a great experience. And like Kyle is like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(14:59):
I'm up for whatever. I'm not, you know what I mean? Like,
so I just I feel like I do feel like
that he should have been given more grace in that.
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podcast notes and we're back talking below deck. So it
was so nuts that he was put in that position.
And it's not to say that he's like this great
outstanding guy. I mean, he said to Slaine in the
hotab He's like, I never said I was a good person, Like,
don't hold me that, Like I get it. He's you know,
(19:59):
banging checks under the yurnal. It's not like but that
was completely consensual. I mean, if anything, she was. You know,
these women are having their way with him and he's
just going along with it. He doesn't see a problem
with it, but we as viewers in the Helen situation,
absolutely do. Helen and her husband are lucky that he's
not trying to sue them, to be honest with you, yeah, yeah,
(20:21):
that's how I feel at this point, because he could,
He really could do that, and it seemed like he
was protecting her when he was telling the captain like
nothing happened. He was protecting her, but he was also
protecting himself. But the fact that he kept saying that
and alluding to it and like, give Helen a call,
she had to have done something more, She had to
have initiated something more, and he stopped it, That's what
(20:44):
I think. And there were cameras all around. We had
underwater shots, people were all around, so they couldn't have
like actually done something without it being seen.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah. I I thought that maybe what actually
happened happened off camera, not in that moment, but he
was saying it happened in that moment, but regardless if
something did happen later. Yeah, either way.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It's like the cameras would have caught it though, Emily, Yeah, true,
we would have seen like the sneaking from the rooms,
yeah yeah, or going off, we would have seen it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, true. So I don't know. I do think,
like I'll go back to what I said before, if
like Rainbow is asked to hold the husband without his
pants on, yeah, underwater, like it would have been like
front page.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
News completely absolutely. Yeah. Captain was like with the evidens,
like have I want you sty everybody thinks you're full
of shit. They need to believe your stories. They think
you just talking local ring took and uh, I don't
want you that close to guests anymore. And I was like,
how about you tell your guests, you know, how about
(22:03):
when you have a group like this that's acting this
way or just ahead of time, don't touch our crew.
Yeah how about that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Captain Carrie didn't even want to be around them. He
knew how bad shit they were. Remember, He's like, just
tell me exactly when to sit down for dinner. I
don't want to hang out with these people longer than
I have to.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's a weird, like, you know, it's such a gray
area for these yachties on international waters and these guests
come on there and they just do whatever they want,
and then the crew is supposed to like dance on them,
and like it's such a bizarre world.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I know, I know. And how about it's like you
do have to look at it case by case. I
guess it's the best way to handle it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, all right, So how about Jess and Barbara because
they end up going on that date and then Barbara
just reads her for Philip and is like thanks for
the meal.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That I do not want them together. No, she does
not deserve Barbara like she deserves better.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Barbara deserves better. I completely agree. And but if Barbara's like,
you know what, I'll get a meal out of it
in some cuddles. You know, I can't blame her for that,
but it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Why didn't go ahead? I bet you're gonna say the
same thing. I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, then they went under the bunk, and then Selene's
up like wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
When Jess as her own room with Rainbow, I'm like,
go there, why don't you two go?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Everybody knows Rainbow is the only one working, so like,
let her sleep. Rainbow is the unsung hero of this
entire season. Oh my gosh, Fraser is like doing what
is he doing other than talking beautifully and making great
jokes to us and elevating the experience just by his
class and his prowess and the way he handles the guests,
(23:56):
But he is what is he actually doing? He seems
like the chiefs.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Do I know? Well, I don't know. She's got some
issues too, but she's working ten times harder than anybody
else in her department, that's for sure. Yeah. The feather
situation after that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
No, why why would they allow that? Why?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I mean they're going to be cleaning up feathers forever
because also that when you watch the guests go back
to their room, they were covered in feathers.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, they're going to be in the beds, they're going
to be in the showers, They're going to be in
the drawers, they're going to be in their luggage like
they're going to be.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Fathers, you know, but like.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Amazing if they put them in the luggage, they're like,
should we should we like prank them if they give
us a bad tip? Well, stuff feathers in their luggage.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
The only thing worse than that would be like a
glitter party. That would be like harder to clean them.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, glitter would be harder, but man or sand.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sand party.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What happened was a good old session bubbles like foam
party that they used to do that too.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh on deck, Yes, I was like an indoor bubble party.
Also sounds a good nightmare.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, yeah, for sure, for sure. Chef Anthony his eight
course dinner turned out beautifully, with the exception of the
wine pairing.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I feel like the wheels are about to come off
for Anthony. We saw that in the preview, which I
feel bad about, but yeah, I think I think we're
And also in the preview, it's like it seems like
Kyle's pissed at Fraser for everything.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So yeah, because Kyle Fraser was on Watch happens side
with Kyle last night, so it seems like they're totally cool.
But at the time, you know, you can't blame Fraser
for bringing it up. It's on camera. He said it
all on camera. They had to up his mess. If
Kyle had his mouth, they wouldn't have had to do it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And if I were Captain Carry and
my crew was not telling me something this big, I
would have huge issues. So yeah, there, we'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
We'll see how it goes. What a charter. All right, darlings,
thanks for listening. Go ahead and follow us over on Instagram.
It's Drama Darling Show, right, Emily, Drama Darling Show.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yes, it is good job.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Thank you so much. Also, everybody drank red wine chilled
this summer with.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
God's Thin
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Disgusting.
Drama, Darling drama, Darling drama, Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yello and welcome. We're doing blaw deeck and we've got
a lot to catch up on. This was quite the
spicy episode. Emily Dresis is here.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hi ems loving this season.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome in, Hi, thank you, I'm welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I want to say, like, I wasn't expecting to love
this season as much as I am.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's an unexpected season. Certainly, I'm surprised that this is
even happening the way it is. This is the craziest season.
This was the craziest charter, guests and drama that I
think we've ever had in one charter, The way that
this has gone down.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I mean, I I believe you. I can't. I can't
argue with that, mainly because I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, none of us can really remember, but we might.
We might as well just get right into the Kyle
because you know, and he was on Watch Happens Live
last night, which I did watch, and I was able
to see and how he spoke to this. So that
being said, oh, that was the craziest I was gonna
say I because I thought the craziest thing we were
(01:28):
going to talk about was that they served red ass
wine with every course of that meal.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Every fish dish came with a red ass wine.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hmmm, well, you know what, Jersey loves red wine? Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Jerseys? So I guess so, Emily, I am.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Beginning to think you have a real problem with red
wine in general, and so I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Have to red wine.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm gonna have to turn the tables on you. I'm
turning the tables, all right. So, first of all, as
we spoke about how I had the nerve of buying
a pinot noir in the summertime from Summer Costco, and
I got raked over the coals from that from you,
(02:15):
I will have you know that a lot of people
enjoy a light red in the summer, chilled, chilled, thank you. Okay,
So now let's turn over to this. There's nothing wrong
with having red wine with your entire dinner. If you
start with it and you don't want to switch over
(02:37):
to white for the fish, that's fine, okay, Okay, So
what is your problem with them drinking so much red wine? Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't know why they're not drinking Ramona Pino. Yeah,
I just it just hit me a little bit. I
was like, that's another glass of red wine, and this
is three fish dishes in a row, where I just
was surprised, because if you're going to do an eight
course oftentimes and you are a wine drinker.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You're gonna switch up the wines.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Okay, I remember, believe I can't believe I remember this,
by the way, from a very early below deck, but
when they were doing an eight course meal or however,
maybe six to eight, I don't know how many, but
it was the whole thing where the guests were requesting
different wines for each course. So to your point, yes,
(03:38):
I agree that you know, to stick with one red
throughout the whole thing. Yeah, personally I think that's, you know,
an error to the cuisine. But if that's what they're
into and they're happy with that, very low key, easy
on the servers. I remember a long time ago this
(03:58):
was such a huge, huge undertaking to pull all these
bottles of different wine pairings with the with the meals,
with the courses, and then having to switch out the glasses,
oh my gosh, and so they were having to wash
the glasses in between. I don't know if y'alls remember that,
but yeah, holler at me if you do.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, I guess I've just been I don't know. Maybe
it's not something I really like if as a person
I'm into, but I just know you see all the time,
like a wine pairing menu when you're having a multiple
course dinner. So anyway, yes, I thought, there's that red
wine again. There it is me everywhere I go.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You're getting started.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
She's in Santa Clarina, Clarina, Clarina.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So now that we've talked about the most you know,
polarizing part of the episode, which everybody whins talking about, yes,
we can just get on and just talk about the
little stuff. So we'll talk about We'll talk about Kyle,
I mean, why not. And they're out, they're out for dinner,
their crew night out after this charter leaves and they
(05:10):
give a very bad tip which was really disappointing, sixteen
hundred each and everyone's life shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They didn't even pretend and that was really I've never
seen them just well I guess we have, but like
that was still like such a kick to the gut hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
After having to deal with that drunken woman as an
eight course meal.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, and also just like trying to make up the
difference the whole time in terms of giving them better
service than ever. Or you know, I think the charter
guests also thought that they gave a good tip. I
don't think that they were punishing them. I think that
they thought it was good. And I was like, didn't you.
(05:56):
And I kind of realized that they had some kind
of reality background these people, like they knew what they
were getting into.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Because they had been on the boat before or I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
No, you know, they had some kind of or maybe
I read this that they had some kind of connection
to the Jersey Housewives, like they've been in the mix.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Really, Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, okay, I read that somewhere or something.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Not Mob Wives, Jersey Housewives.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The house like the New Jerseywives.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But anyway, so like they were schooled in reality television
in some way, and so I'm like, they've watched the show.
They know if they give a bad tip, like right.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. All right. So then we
get into the van and we're on our way out,
and this is when the rumor is started. The episode's
called Rumor Mill or whatever, and Kyle starts talking about
how you know, Helen was using him as a flotation
device and that she knew what she wanted, and then
he starts saying that his d went into her p
(06:58):
and that he was like, we can't do this right now, Helen.
So that's the beginning of him sharing that that potentially
something may have happened in the sea when he was
like floating her, and we kind of leave that. There
were then at dinner, and I have never seen two
(07:20):
people close a deal faster before in my life.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I mean, like, wow, in a more disgusting place.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh God, I thought they were gonna they I thought
they were on the beach and it was going to
happen there.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Why wouldn't that Why wouldn't they It was so much better,
it was dark.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They must have gotten kicked out. Maybe they got get
kicked out point because it was the public, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I was wondering too if camera wise they're not allowed
in if he goes into a bathroom stall or something.
But they were under the urinal like I just didn't know,
I mean, because the cameras were one part of the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But magine it looked like how's your head doing under that?
Yaneal comfortable Jazz taking a picture was you know, childish
and crazy, and I just thought that's so inappropriate, but.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well I immediately thought of like revenge porn stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, so yeah, I don't know, man.
The thing about that is that this kid, they obviously
kind of crossed their t's and dotted their eyes because
we couldn't see her. We could only see him.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
In the sex picture.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right. She knew she was on camera. She allowed it
to happen. She was she was allowing to be filmed.
She came back in from that bathroom like like the
Chili's Birthday song, like Happy Happy Birthday. I was ill,
glad you're here. I was like, wow, she's clapping for
her own.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I didn't know if she knew that they knew. I
thought maybe she thought that they were just clappy, you
know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I don't know what she was clapping about, but I mean,
I think it's pretty obvious they're coming back, and honestly,
I know.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
This is like I just was like respect because I
was like, you are living like you're living dogs, just
like Kyle and owning it and it's like, good for you.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I mean, yeah, she she wanted what she wanted and
she got what she got, and you know what she got.
She did what she did. You know, that's good. That
was something that she wanted and she got it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
She was on and said form I agree, put my
full face on this.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I know, it's kind of amazing. Oh wow, Yeah, I
had a problem with the picture. I think it was
really weird that she did that. I think it's really
weird that they showed it, regardless of her signing off
on all that. It's very weird in this day and age,
you know, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So like this scandabal stuff where we learned so much
about that kind of thing. I was like, wow, Bravo,
that's a choice.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And on Watch What Happens Live, he was asked about
that and he was like, you know, the picture I
thought was really inappropriate. I don't know how he said it,
but he was like, all right, what did you think
about that? And he was like, I don't care, it's fine.
He thought it was funny. He was fine with it.
So it was just strange. But that's that Kyle apparently said.
(10:29):
And I didn't hear this because you know, I didn't
hear that Kyle said this until the hot tub when
Selaine told us that he came back and said she
was better than you, which is very strange. I didn't
hear that part, did you.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I didn't hear it either until it was repeated. There's
a lot of Kyle dialogue happening in this episode that
I'm not sure where it's going or I didn't hear it.
I feel like I'm missing something. There's a lot of
that this episode. For me, with him, for being the
focus of the episode, I was confused a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, yeah, because he's talking out of two sides of
his mouth. I mean, he's he is leading us down
the path of him saying that he didn't do it
or that he did do it, and then he completely
back pedals and says that he didn't do it, and
then nothing happened. So and then he continues to do
that all throughout this episode and then continues to kind
(11:22):
of also do it on Watch What Happens Live. So
at the end of the episode, you know, he ultimately
says to the producer when the producers asked him what
really happened, and he's like, oh, you mean, was it
a joke. Give Helen a call, right, and so so
then we're left with another cliffhanger. Then on Watch What
Happens Live, and he was really drilling down and being like, so,
(11:42):
what did this happen? Did this not happen? And then
Kyle said there was a time in the sea where
I thought something potentially may have happened, but it didn't.
And then he's like okay, and then he says she
was moving my hands toward her chest and then Andy says,
was you're d out? And he says no, and then
(12:03):
Andy says, why did you tell the crew at the
end in the interview that this may have happened? He said,
I don't know, I don't know why, but nothing happened.
I don't know why I said it. I don't know
why I said it, but there was a point in
my brain where I thought, this is is this actually
going to happen? But it didn't. Do You see She's
going back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
The other challenge with Kyle is I think it's maybe
even a tick he has where yeah, it was a
question he freezes and then agrees yeah, and then verbally
says something else he like freezes and shakes his head
a little like yeah, yeah, and then but then says
the opposite, So I much yeah, oh, I don't know
what this is.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't know what it is, but it is the
most confusing thing in the world and where you're kind
of left with at the end of the day. Here's
where I have an issue with this with the captain
and what happened here is that he didn't start none
with Helen. Okay, he was in the sea, she took
off her top, she told him to hold her like
(13:04):
a flotation device. He was put into a situation that
he never should have been put into. And if she
was moving her hands towards her chest, that is absolutely
us a and there was no consent. This is her
abusing all the privileges of the situation and a person.
(13:24):
And when he was called up to the captain and
saying did you or did you not? You know him
like emphatically saying no. Ultimately he's protecting her because and
like why wasn't it that Fraser and Domo were like,
he needs to go and tell the captain what she did,
(13:46):
not what he did, you know what I mean? Like
that to me was weird, and I know like.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I was kind of holding off because I wanted to
see this whole thing because also last episode, we were
unclear what was going to play out in this episode,
because we weren't sure if the if there was going
to be a hookup with a guest coming up, because
there was no way that he had sex with her
in the water in front of anybody from what we saw.
(14:16):
But that said, I was still like, she's in a
power position. What the hell's he supposed to do right now?
Like he can say no, and like that would have
also affected everything. Like I do.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Feel like I think he did say I know, I
think he said this can't happen right now. I think
he did sort of utter that at some point and.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
About the sex. But just like to your point, just
being naked and holding her up, Yeah, Like that was
crazy that he was happy he was out there doing that,
And I don't think that would have happened had Kelly
not been escorted off the boat. I think everybody was
kind of working out of their comfort zone to give
these people a great experience. And like Kyle is like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(14:59):
I'm up for whatever. I'm not, you know what I mean? Like,
so I just I feel like I do feel like
that he should have been given more grace in that.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
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podcast notes and we're back talking below deck. So it
was so nuts that he was put in that position.
And it's not to say that he's like this great
outstanding guy. I mean, he said to Slaine in the
hotab He's like, I never said I was a good person, Like,
don't hold me that, Like I get it. He's you know,
(19:59):
banging checks under the yurnal. It's not like but that
was completely consensual. I mean, if anything, she was. You know,
these women are having their way with him and he's
just going along with it. He doesn't see a problem
with it, but we as viewers in the Helen situation,
absolutely do. Helen and her husband are lucky that he's
not trying to sue them, to be honest with you, yeah, yeah,
(20:21):
that's how I feel at this point, because he could,
He really could do that, and it seemed like he
was protecting her when he was telling the captain like
nothing happened. He was protecting her, but he was also
protecting himself. But the fact that he kept saying that
and alluding to it and like, give Helen a call,
she had to have done something more, She had to
have initiated something more, and he stopped it, That's what
(20:44):
I think. And there were cameras all around. We had
underwater shots, people were all around, so they couldn't have
like actually done something without it being seen.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah. I I thought that maybe what actually
happened happened off camera, not in that moment, but he
was saying it happened in that moment, but regardless if
something did happen later. Yeah, either way.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
It's like the cameras would have caught it though, Emily, Yeah, true,
we would have seen like the sneaking from the rooms,
yeah yeah, or going off, we would have seen it.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, true. So I don't know. I do think,
like I'll go back to what I said before, if
like Rainbow is asked to hold the husband without his
pants on, yeah, underwater, like it would have been like
front page.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
News completely absolutely. Yeah. Captain was like with the evidens,
like have I want you sty everybody thinks you're full
of shit. They need to believe your stories. They think
you just talking local ring took and uh, I don't
want you that close to guests anymore. And I was like,
how about you tell your guests, you know, how about
(22:03):
when you have a group like this that's acting this
way or just ahead of time, don't touch our crew.
Yeah how about that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Captain Carrie didn't even want to be around them. He
knew how bad shit they were. Remember, He's like, just
tell me exactly when to sit down for dinner. I
don't want to hang out with these people longer than
I have to.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's a weird, like, you know, it's such a gray
area for these yachties on international waters and these guests
come on there and they just do whatever they want,
and then the crew is supposed to like dance on them,
and like it's such a bizarre world.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I know, I know. And how about it's like you
do have to look at it case by case. I
guess it's the best way to handle it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, all right, So how about Jess and Barbara because
they end up going on that date and then Barbara
just reads her for Philip and is like thanks for
the meal.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That I do not want them together. No, she does
not deserve Barbara like she deserves better.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Barbara deserves better. I completely agree. And but if Barbara's like,
you know what, I'll get a meal out of it
in some cuddles. You know, I can't blame her for that,
but it was pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Why didn't go ahead? I bet you're gonna say the
same thing. I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Well, then they went under the bunk, and then Selene's
up like wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
When Jess as her own room with Rainbow, I'm like,
go there, why don't you two go?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Everybody knows Rainbow is the only one working, so like,
let her sleep. Rainbow is the unsung hero of this
entire season. Oh my gosh, Fraser is like doing what
is he doing other than talking beautifully and making great
jokes to us and elevating the experience just by his
class and his prowess and the way he handles the guests,
(23:56):
But he is what is he actually doing? He seems
like the chiefs.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Do I know? Well, I don't know. She's got some
issues too, but she's working ten times harder than anybody
else in her department, that's for sure. Yeah. The feather
situation after that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
No, why why would they allow that? Why?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I mean they're going to be cleaning up feathers forever
because also that when you watch the guests go back
to their room, they were covered in feathers.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, they're going to be in the beds, they're going
to be in the showers, They're going to be in
the drawers, they're going to be in their luggage like
they're going to be.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Fathers, you know, but like.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Amazing if they put them in the luggage, they're like,
should we should we like prank them if they give
us a bad tip? Well, stuff feathers in their luggage.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
The only thing worse than that would be like a
glitter party. That would be like harder to clean them.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, glitter would be harder, but man or sand.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Sand party.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What happened was a good old session bubbles like foam
party that they used to do that too.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh on deck, Yes, I was like an indoor bubble party.
Also sounds a good nightmare.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, yeah, for sure, for sure. Chef Anthony his eight
course dinner turned out beautifully, with the exception of the
wine pairing.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I feel like the wheels are about to come off
for Anthony. We saw that in the preview, which I
feel bad about, but yeah, I think I think we're
And also in the preview, it's like it seems like
Kyle's pissed at Fraser for everything.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
So yeah, because Kyle Fraser was on Watch happens side
with Kyle last night, so it seems like they're totally cool.
But at the time, you know, you can't blame Fraser
for bringing it up. It's on camera. He said it
all on camera. They had to up his mess. If
Kyle had his mouth, they wouldn't have had to do it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And if I were Captain Carry and
my crew was not telling me something this big, I
would have huge issues. So yeah, there, we'll see how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
We'll see how it goes. What a charter. All right, darlings,
thanks for listening. Go ahead and follow us over on Instagram.
It's Drama Darling Show, right, Emily, Drama Darling Show.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yes, it is good job.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Thank you so much. Also, everybody drank red wine chilled
this summer with.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
God's Thin
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Disgusting.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!