Destiny: Cynthia Zak, The Joy of Sleeping Alone

“A self-help guide that blends neuroscience, mysticism, and psychology to argue that sleeping alone is the key to well-being for women.”—Kirkus Reviews

Explains the energetic, emotional, and physical power of having your own sacred space to sleep

Offers 64 step-by-step rituals for women to reclaim the power of intuition, renew energy, and connect with the intelligence of their hearts

Presents the act of sleeping as a spiritual retreat to find answers to your most intimate and complex questions

The demands of daily life drain our energy and ability to set meaningful intentions. The crucial act of sleeping has become an automatic routine: at the end of the day you fall exhausted into bed without giving it any thought. Our cultural programming makes us feel that sharing a bed is not only normal but desirable. It is a sign of love and care for partners, children, and others. But breaking free of this routine and claiming a night for yourself is a sublime opportunity to recover your energy and power, to reconnect with yourself, and to reinhabit your body without the influence of external vibrations.

In this book, Cynthia Zak offers women of all ages and relationship statuses practical and accessible rituals for sleeping alone. Discover the biology of your sleeping body and learn soothing mantras to enhance lucid dreaming and calm your mind. Reclaim the privacy that sleep allows to rediscover your intuition and foster a holistic renewal of the self. This book shows how to take ownership of your nightly rest and transform it into a sacred retreat.

Cynthia Zak is a ceremonialist, master in yoga and meditation, author of five books, and a singer-songwriter with over 150 published songs and melodies. She is a researcher in the science of sound as medicine, a HeartMath Institute therapist, birth doula and end-of-life doula, and founder and director of the Yomu Institute. She travels the world teaching her practices to children, teachers, parents, business leaders, and healthcare professionals. Her background and spiritual practices are in Sufism, Buddhism, Kabbalah, and shamanism. A mother of three, she lives in Miami Beach, Florida.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to Destiny.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
A lot to celebrate this week, we are and we
have announced our seventh annual Grand Egyptian Tour April twenty
eight through May tenth, and we had a kind of
a big celebration on Earth Ancients. We're kind of continuing
that a little bit for the simple reason that this
museum that we're going to visit in Cairo, the Grand

(00:42):
Egyptian Museum, has been seven and almost eight years in
the waiting. We were supposed to enjoy it over actually
over eight years ago when it was scheduled to open.
And the reason this is a very very special places
that it's Egypt, and they've had a decrepit museum that

(01:06):
they've been highlighting, and they've had to store literally tens
of thousands of artifacts around the country. And this new
museum has not only some of the most beautiful statues
I've ever seen in pictures. I haven't gone there yet,

(01:26):
but they have artifacts from all reaches of the country.
And this is critical for those of you who are
research investigators who are curious about some of these dynastic periods,
but also pre dynastic periods which have a lot of anomalies.
And you know, when you go and you start looking

(01:47):
at some of these wings, because that's what they have,
these wings of different pharaohs and the Old, the Middle
and the New Kingdom of the Pharonic period. There's a
lot to find. There's a lot to discover, and it's
a lot to unfold. And so this is really very special,

(02:09):
and this is going to be part of this grant
Egyptian tour that will be going on in April twenty eighth. Now,
not only that that's a that's very very, very important,
but you know, the tour itself is fabulous, and you know,
we don't mention all the details. You can see the
details on Earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours. But

(02:31):
the Nile cruise from Cairo to as One is simply
not only remarkable for its sophistication, but it's it's it's all.
It's like it's like winding and dining and enjoying yourself
on this ancient river as we head up the path

(02:55):
to the other parts of the itinerary. It is so
one wonderful to float on the Nile and listen to
the lectures and just sit and soak. Most of these
cruise ships have pools and hot tubs and it is
just just the way to go, it really is, so

(03:18):
come out and join us. We fell up pretty quickly.
I think that we'll probably be full by the end
of December, and then after that the price goes up.
But if you have any questions that all, send me
an email. Send it to Earth as the number four
of the letter you at gmail dot com, and I'll
answer whatever questions I can. I've been getting like one

(03:40):
question about every couple of days. On my Facebook page,
I've posted some photos from the most recent tours, and
we have some videos that are going to be put up.
But it's really a discoverer's paradise because if you're interested
in the ancient past, my god, Egypt is just just

(04:00):
overflowing with artifacts, with temples with pyramids, and we get
to do what they call private visits, and those are
where we go and we walk into a pyramid by ourselves,
without the general public. We'll go to a temple without
any interference whatsoever, which allows for individual time and research
and observation. And it's private visits are very rare when

(04:25):
you're with a general tour, when you're with a private tour.
It's a whole different animal. So come on join us
April twenty eighth through May tenth. For more information, go
to Earth Agents dot com forward Slash Tours. And I'm
serious about that museum. I mean it is gonna be
I mean, I just can't wait. I'm very very excited

(04:46):
about it. It's just, oh man, there's so much to
take in. I don't know if we can do it
in today. So today's program is on sleeping alone. And
my guest has written a book called The Joy of
Sleeping Alone. And what's unique about this is what's something

(05:09):
different about this observation of the author is that sometimes
we need to sleep alone. Sometimes we need to heal,
or if we have a spouse or a partner who
has sleep apnea or snores or tosses and turns, that
can disrupt our sleep. I'm not in a relationship right now,

(05:29):
but when I am, the person who's with me can
cause issues when they're moving around a lot. And so
I kind of understand where the gesture of this book is.
But the author has also included a number of rituals
she incorporates into the actual book. And so these are

(05:54):
rituals for enhance dreams, fung shue your room, your bedroom
for better healing. There's a whole section on I mean,
it's really critical to get a good good night's sleep,
and so that's the gest of this program and how

(06:18):
you should approach sleep. So the program is the Joy
of Sleeping Alone, sixty four rituals to become the sovereign
of your bed in your life. And my guest is
Cynthia zach Hey. The semath annual Grand Egyptian Tour is

(06:40):
coming up. We have Mohammad and Nohah by him with us.
We're gonna be visiting Tennis, Egypt, which is very very old.
We don't know what happened there. It looks like a
catastrophic event happened. It has megalithic structures, statues, and some
large pieces strewed around Muhammad. What do we know about Tennis?

(07:02):
What makes it so unique?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
What we know about Tennis unfortunately so little, but it
is so little incomvenior with the importance and the greatness
of Tennis, But for us it is very high level
of information. Number one, What we know that Tennis was
a great center of knowledge in instigu It was the

(07:26):
big city receiving all the travelers and immigrants and visitors
to Egypt from the northeast part off they come across Sinai.
The second thing about Tennis that there was a massive
size tembile or I can call it big town. We

(07:46):
call it temble dedicated to Amonra. This temble or this
village if I can call it, this way was completely
built out of rose granite from us one. You know what,
people don't know that there was more than twelve obelisks
in Tennis, maybe more, but the remains some of them

(08:08):
still in good condition, but all of them are laying
on the ground. The one they took it to the
Grand Museum, the one in front of the main gate
of the Grand Museum is from Tennis, and the one
in Tarryer Square now is from Tennis. So there are
about ten obelisks or eight obelisks still there at Tennis.
So the story is very strange because we expected, even

(08:32):
if the temble was in bad condition, we expected more
ruins to see more cat or blocks, but we found
only few. But we found the biggest. By the way,
there are remains of blocks weighing more than two hundred
ton and three hundred ton. We found the foot of
a statue. According to the dimension of the foot, the

(08:55):
statue would be more than fifteen hundred ton. The foot
is like a car size. Wow. Okay, so we don't
know what happened exactly. It must be something very strong
hit tennis and hit that temple and it causes it
caused great damage, like great exublution happened inside the temple

(09:17):
and caused that all the pieces are scattered on a
distance maybe like three or four kilometers wide.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
When people go to tennis, they're going to feel the
magic and they feel the dips of the history of tennis.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I join us. It's going to be April twenty eight
through May tenth. For all the details and the itinerary,
go to Earth Ancients dot Com, Forward slash Tours. My

(10:18):
next guest has written a book called The Joy of
Sleeping Alone, sixty four Rituals to Becoming the Sovereign of
your bed and your Life. I read this book and
it was recommended to me, and I was looking at
it going, wait a minute, this is very anti social.
But my guest today, Cynthia Zach, brings up a tremendous
number of important points that we'll discuss today on our program.

(10:43):
Let me tell you a little bit about Cynthia. She
is a ceremonious master of yoga meditation. She's the author
of five books and would you believe she's a singer
songwriter with over one hundred and fifty published songs and melanies. CENTTHI,
Welcome to Your Destiny. Great to have you on the program.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Thank you for the invitation. I'm so happy to be
here and have this opportunity to talk about this book
and the whole thing that is bringing this book to
the society and to women and men and the experience
of night time.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Talk about it. You're I think you're in a relationship right,
you're married and you have kids.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, I was married. I'm not married anymore, but I
have to keep my grandson.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
So fantastic. This is an interesting book. I actually did
a little research on my own and discovered that system.
When they actually ask people about sleeping, a lot of
men and women say they sleep alone. And it's not
a simple thing. It's actually been proven that and I

(11:52):
didn't realize this that a lot of people don't get
good sleep when they sleep with another person. Talk about
the the foundation of this book did you do. It's
just how it came into your mind. You were having
clients or the people that you were finding were angry
with their partners because they were getting good sleep, or what.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
How did it start a little bit of everything, a
little bit of the personal experience. When I was starting,
like starting to sleep in alone more and for longer
periods of times, and then I said, wait a minute,
something is happening. I'm so happy when I wake up.
It's like but a happiness. It's not only physical, it's

(12:35):
more spiritual in all senses. And so I start doing
my research and talking to specialists and doctors and people
that are really doing research about sleep and dreams and
lucy dreams, and start going into the yoga of dreams
Tipetan and the Hinduism and very deep traditions. And I'm

(13:01):
talking to my friends also like a little like casual
conversations about how you sleep. You sleep better when you
have your partner or when you are alone. And then
these books start coming to life by itself, like everything,
It's like it's there and I manifested and we manifest

(13:23):
the whatever is there waiting to be written. And so
with the research and talking to people and my own experience.
I said, okay, there must be some scientifically prove information
that holds when you are sleeping alone, you have a

(13:45):
better night, you rest better. And then there's all research
about the noises, the smells, the movements of the partner,
the different schedules and times, and also the dreams of
your partner interconnected with your own dreams, the fluid, every

(14:08):
little thing, especially when you are so vulnerable and so
open sleeping. So it's another state of being. That's when
this book comes into life. I said, we mean, there's
a big research on that, and there's a big research
and nobody did before. That is the story of the bed.

(14:31):
There's a history on the bed. And I said, okay,
let me investigate a little bit of how, why and
how we get to this kind of like four legs
holding a mattress. What is that? Why we sleep like
that Westerners? There's many other traditions that doesn't sleep like

(14:55):
the way we sleep.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Right. You bring up another good point too. You say
that when we sleep long, we lucid dream better. And
that's very very important to have good dreaming. But lucid
dreamings are high level dreams that you can actually manipulate
if you get very advanced. And we've had some specialists
on this program talking about lucid dreaming. That's a very

(15:17):
important part of sleep, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's a wonderful part us. That's the wonder of the nighttime.
But we are so disconnected, especially now that we'll go
to sleep with the iPad and the phone and watching
a movie. So that's interfering with a very night, a

(15:43):
very good night of sleep and rest and the lucy dreams. That,
as you said, is a very sophisticated practice. But we
all are able to do it. So we're capable to
do it. It's not two masters to Yogi's. We can do it,
and most of the people at one point in many

(16:08):
nights we do have lucy dreams. The thing is we
are disconnected with that. And you know, the rates of
people that doesn't have a good night sleep in America
is alarming. People are taking all types of feels over
the counter or with the doctor. So that's a a

(16:31):
epidemic there that this book tries to bring a balance,
like a little balance and awareness of wait a minute,
you have your power. You can do a better night
that why because your day is going to be much

(16:52):
better your awareness, your presence, your desires, what you want
to add achieve, your manifestations, everything, and your your overall
emotional intelligence. It's related to night.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, we're going to talk about the rituals in a minute.
These are most of the book. You bring up the
term sovereign, and it seems to me that you are
focusing primarily on women. Is it that your feeling is
that women give up too much of their power to
the men, to maybe their other partner, whatever sex that is,

(17:35):
and by giving up their power, they don't get the
health benefits of a good sleep.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, giving up the power is a lot of so
society pressure, like if you are married or you have
a partner, if you don't sleep together, everybody kind of
get alarmed, or you don't love each other and more,
or you're having problems. And going into the history of

(18:05):
the bed, you understand that point very well, like when
and how in history we start sleeping with a male
partner kind of us it's an obligation. I always tell
the story my parents. I'm Argentinian, I grew up in Argentina,

(18:27):
and so they shared the pillow, and I was always
kind of questioning that I don't know if you ever
see like it's it kind of like a sausage long pillow, Oh,
long pillow. Yeah, yeah, they share a long sausage below.

(18:48):
And I said, how came these people? And I remember
being very young questioning that the convenience and why my
mother wants to share the pillow with my father, like
if one like little things. So when during Industrial Revolution,
and I have this in the book, we you know,

(19:13):
society needs women working as men the same schedules the
same times, not only taking care of the kids and
the house, but also going out as a workforce. So
since Industrial Revolution, we put women and men on the
same bed with the same time, a schedule like the

(19:36):
alarm clock is the same for both, and women stand up,
take care of the kids, family, la la la, la
la la, and go to work. This this wrapped the
whole cir Cardian rhythm of all women that is completely
different as a man. Just starting with the menstrual cycle

(20:00):
that is completely different than a man. So women we
start adapting to a male silk Gardien rhythm, and that's
affecting the whole sleep and day and performance during the
day and well being of a woman. But it was

(20:21):
funny with the book because I wrote this book for females,
for she for her, but as and a Spanish and
a lot of men were like, Okay, wait a minute,
you like this book. I want to do it too.
I understand. And also this book opens a door. And

(20:44):
it happens to me in many presentations that I was
doing around especially Latin America, that women approached me and
I said, but I'm afraid to tell my partner that
I want a night of I'm afraid I have fear.
And some of them already start because of the book.
They it's opening a movement, a new movement of I

(21:08):
can say what I desire without creating a drama or
a breakup. It's not about divorcing my partner. It's about yeah,
this night for my spiritual practice.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Talk about that in a relationship, especially with new married couples.
I mean, when I was married, are rest in sleep
time it was a bonding also because we both worked
at different times, we didn't see each other, and so
when we were in bed together it was not only
intimacy but also the bonding. Are you suggesting that perhaps

(21:47):
maintain the bonding, but you don't have to stay in
the same bed all the time.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Is that what you're suggesting, what I suggesting in the
book is take one night a week. Go very conservative.
I'm not saying, okay, from now on we never sleep together.
Take one night a week, and as you said, stay
together cultivating timacy. But then at the time of sleep,

(22:18):
see what happened with your humanity and your biology when
you go sleep in another place. And I'm inviting women
and men to experience this and to play a little
bit too, like a little fun. Why not, don't have

(22:40):
nothing to lose. It's just exploding that. And I'm telling
you and talking to many, many women, and they said
to me, the intimacy and the connection is much better
now because that.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
One day where they take it off and they do
their own thing.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yes, and we choose we can. This is a book
that opens a conversation, a dialogue as something that is
kind of putting a side under the table, under the rug.
And it's needed to be because talking to hundreds of women,
some of many of them happily, happily married, they all

(23:24):
said to me, I'm so happy when he goes for
a business trip. I'm so happy. It's it's it's a
I'm in heaven when I can have the bed for myself.
So I said, why don't, why not whenever you feel
like it or so it's a spiritual practice. And I

(23:47):
like to see the bed and it's it's on the
book many many times, I repeat, it's a magic carpet.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I think you said something very important, Cynthia. You said
this is a spiritual practice. And I didn't get that.
I mean, I got the fact that you personally are spiritual.
But in writing this book and laying out your philosophy,
you've created a spiritual practice. I think that's very important.

(24:16):
I want you to talk a little bit about the bed,
the history of the bed, and why that is an
important integral part not only of sleeping together but also
sleeping alone.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah. I'm not gonna spoil the book because it's super
cool to read. But doing my research, you know, I
have a background as a journalist and I do a
lot of I write a lot, and I'm in a
radio lot, and so my doing research or something that
is fascinated for me. So I start doing the research

(24:49):
and I Dina was like, this is incredible. Millions of
years ago, primates like before humans, our ancestors sleep on
trees on the branches of trees, and imagine the sleep

(25:11):
is not really it's not really relaxful. It's it's moving.
There's a lot of things happening. You're up there because
you want to save your life. Basically, you leave the
tree and you sleep there. The nights are not a
good night of like resting. When the fire appears for

(25:34):
humanity and these people primates and our ancestors say, okay, wait,
if we light the fire, we save the animals are
not coming to eat us. And then they go down
from the trees, light the fire and start sleeping on
the floor and listen, I have goosebumps because they sleep

(26:01):
for the night for the first time and history and
that change a brain hard brain connection, and that creates
the awareness of dreams because you need certain hours of
night to produce five sections of dreams during your night

(26:26):
of sleep. So all the dreams start happening, and these
first humans start getting more creative, more in tune, language appear,
that appear, the drawings on the walls is all connected
with the sleep. And then they said, okay, we've been

(26:47):
eaten by mosquitos and other insects, and they start finding
herbs that if you put it on the floor and
you sleep on top of the earths and plants protects
you from mosquitos. And at the same time, it's much
more kind of mushi, it's not so hard. And then

(27:08):
another step on evolution happens. So when you understand that
that the bed and sleep is completely tied with our
humanity and the human history, that's like, wait a minute,
what am I doing with my night? How can I
honor my own night? That I have these eight hours,

(27:30):
hopefully six to eight hours every day, I have this
opportunity to go deep into my subconscious mind and understand
much more about myself, about my mission, about my purpose,
about my biology, my epigenetics. You know, it's like it's

(27:53):
not nature, it's nurture. How I nurture myself during the
night has a big impact on my day. And then
you ask people, and I talk to I love to
talk to people everywhere, and if you ask people, the
majority of them said, I'm exhausted. This is a very

(28:17):
like common wo I'm exhausted. I can't I'm exhausted in
the middle of the day. I can't anymore. People feel exhausted, depleted.
Has to do a lot with the night and how
we approach the band and the night and what we
do with our bodies and mind and soul in the night. Trip.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, we're going to take a short commercial break to
allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return
shortly with my guest today, Cynthia Zach, discussing her new book,
The Joy of Sleeping Alone. Will be right back. My

(29:47):
guest today is Cynthia Zach. She has written a new
book called The Joy of Sleeping Alone, Sixty four Rituals
to become the Sovereign of your bed and your life.
This is a look at the importance of getting in
a good, nice sleep, but also what sleep means and
how it works on the body, mind, and spirit. Talk

(30:11):
about communicating with your partner. How do you let them
know that you want to have them understand that you
need to or you would like to try the sleeping
alone because you're not getting enough sleep, or you're grouchy,
or you just feel you need to be more creative.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, so happens with a lot of couples that naturally
she goes to another room or to another place because
the noises and the snoring of the partner is unbearable.
This is very common. It's very common, and it's getting

(30:50):
into like a unspoken contract between the couples like okay, yeah,
she can't the book proposed to talk to And I said,
to all my readers, and every time I have this question,
if you are asking me about this book, and if
you are like vibrating with this book, is because there

(31:11):
something on you a call to action about that exactly. Yeah,
And I said, just communicate with you if you have
this call like kind of oh I like this, oh
Bridsney curiosity this book. Wait, I'm gonna I'm gonna check
and I'm going to talk to my partner. And I said,

(31:33):
let's try together at night alone together. I'm inviting couples.
This is an Ora call. So ask you a question
with your partner. Just do this and get and get
your ritual. Let me say, let me see which one

(31:55):
because this is not random. I get sacred, sacred ritual.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I was going to that was one of the questions
I was going to ask you, But go ahead.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
And I can go more in deep on that. But
the thing is, okay, I have my ritual, I have
my partner, and I proposed I say, okay, let's play,
let's see what happened, read the ritual. You do it
on your right, on your side. I do it on
my side. I go to sleep in a different space

(32:29):
and let's see what happened, and let's meet in the morning.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So the night becomes a sacred, incredible opportunity,
you know.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
And for us Westerners especially night, it's we're afraid. There's
a lot of fear with darkness, a lot of fear
with darkness and night. And we have lights for everything,
and we sleep, put the light a little light on
and the TV on and sound. We are not we

(33:07):
are very disconnected with the dark night and what the
darkness brings in the good sense. It's like and I
put and in the book there's one of the Jewish
prayers when you the Jewish people when wake up, they

(33:27):
thank God because my soul is back. And it's really
you die when you go to sleep. It's a small death.
And when you read the book and I explain the
body process when you're in deep sleep on deep dreaming,

(33:50):
it's like, wait a minute, my muscle, my whole muscle
system gets paralyzed, because that prevent me to go and
jump from a cliff. Open the door and jump from
my balcony. If I'm dreaming. That so smart the body

(34:11):
and the subconscious mind, they get my whole body. That's
why in dreams and you will remember when I don't know,
we want to scream and we can't scream in dreams.
Things like that. It's paralyzed. It's protection. Yeah, and so
talk to your partner. Just invite and a different experience

(34:34):
to play.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Does sleeping alone me simply separate beds or does the
partner need top leave the room?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Depends on the arrangement. If you can have another room
is perfect. I have a friend, it's an architect, and
she's been telling me that the last four houses that
she's designing is with two separate bed bets. That says something, yeah,
people want that. So okay, if I'm living in a

(35:08):
studio with my partner, what can I do? Okay, you
can put a little inflatable mattress, so stay like kind
of create a little body separation or body distance sor
to say and then see what happened. Even in the

(35:29):
in the book, I even said, if you cannot leave
the bed, there's no other space. So you create your
you do a meditation, a visualization about the separate kind
of curtain or separation between you and your partner. Get
your own pillow, not like my mother, get your own pillow.

(35:54):
But yeah, I'm even even you know, I'm very fond
of sleeping by I love sleeping bags. Even a sleep
bag can do a lot in terms of body separation.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
So that's what you're saying, is be separate from the body,
no connection. So you could stay in the same room
but sleep on the floor and sit in a sleeping
bag or a cat or a separate bed.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes, it's better.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Also for the cycles, the female cycle. Again, Jewish people
are so so wise, and you see a big movement
of Jewish people that the marriage couple sleep in separate beds,
same room. Hey, that's a big meaning on that. It's

(36:46):
a protection for the female, is respecting of her cycle,
lunar cycle. It's a whole thing there. But we are
in like we are like robots now, like so mechanical,
out of my pilots for everything. Yeah, that we don't
even think about that. And also we go to bed

(37:08):
and we basically die like we don't remember, like we
don't have any time for any practice. Yeah, it's like
we are exhausted and instomnia. I mentioned that before insomnia.
It's a big epidemic in America and all over the world,

(37:28):
but here is crazy. Yeah, the percentage of people that
take something to sleep.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah, it's funny because when you look at the American
movies in the nineteen thirties and forties, and they had
couples and they showed the bedroom, there was always two beds,
and it's because I don't know if it was because
they didn't want to have the same bed because that
showed too much intimacy to the public, to the viewer
of the movie, or that's the style. And I don't

(37:57):
know if it was the style that to sleep as
a husband and wife in two separate beds in the
Latin countries, is that a tradition from the earlier periods
where they slept together separately?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
No together, it's in in the Latin countries. It's worst
today about I want to sleep on my own because
it's such a prejudice about oh, they're going to be
divorced and divorceding. There's something something's wrong with these people

(38:32):
if they sleep and separate.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
You're talking about the male dominated society that mach is
more basically like this is the man's life. The woman
doesn't have a say in the in the situation.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the fear. I've been in Mexico
and in March doing a tour for the book, and
I spoke with a lot of women and they're so
afraid of saying And one of them said, I told
my partner I was brave enough, and he was okay,
he was in the beginning of but then he likes

(39:06):
the idea and then his family show up like on
like no, you cannot do that.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
And for there's millions and millions of females that sleep
alone forever, like people are single and divorces that don't
have a partner, casual partners. This book is also amazing
for people that already sleeping alone because it gives you
a practice, and this spiritual retreat doesn't need to be

(39:42):
going to Tibet for a month. Every night you have
the chance to do your retreat, do your retreat and
practice because during the nighttime there's a different situation in
your back, body, in your brain. I talk about the

(40:03):
glemphatic system in the book, not the lymphatic, the glemphatic
six system that is this discovered the last maybe ten
years ago. How your brain needs to the rest to
clean itself. There's no other way to clean it but sleeping.

(40:23):
So talk scenes things that you don't need it anymore,
and many times in physical terms and an emotional terms
goes out when you sleep.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Mmm, talk about the soul because when you sleep you
mentioned that the soul has a chance to leave and
work into the higher levels. We talk about that here
on the program off and on. But are the rituals
designed or did you design the rituals to be an

(40:56):
aid to the soul to bring in new data so
when you do wake, you're refreshed and you have more
creativity or I don't want to speak for you. That's
my understanding, but you might have some specifics that you.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Can outline and that Yeah, it is. The rituals are
designed in a very simple way. I like to do simple,
like go simple for the reader, for the readers those
rituals doesn't you don't need to buy anything. There's no

(41:30):
like feathers and crystals and no, it's an inner practice.
So they are designed to connect to your like your biology,
A lot of the biology, the inner the intelligence, like
we are we are using ten percent of our intelligence

(41:51):
consciousness when in the daily life, and there's ninety percent
of intelligence that are happening and we don't have a
clue that is insight, like we're talking. We don't know
about our circulatory system, our digestive system, our temperature of
our bodies. This is all happening by itself. It's an

(42:15):
intelligence that the night can take out and and and
then it's for the soul, because says, oh, if I
do this little ritual, I'm going to be much more
connected with the power of this night and the information
that I'm going to have. M there's information in dreams

(42:39):
that and like majority of people says, oh, I never
remember my dreams, Like I don't dream. But it's a
practice and you can do it everybody. Anybody can do it.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
M hmm. Let's talk about a few rituals. I chose
four and perhaps and give us an outline of each one.
I like ritual number four, which is cardinal points. Now
I understand that as perhaps moving the bed around and
also in a position for the highest reception of spiritual energy.

(43:16):
But tell us a little bit about it.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, I have it here. It is that. But so
if you can move your bed. You connect with the
cardinal points. So I'm talking about the soles of your feet,
the crown, the right side, the left side, how you
position yourself in bed. And this is interesting because if

(43:41):
you have the bed for yourself, you can really create
this kind of map of your cardinal points. And this
is giving you a deep, deep information about where your
positioned in the world. So there is bolic too now

(44:02):
like where I am positioning today and in my business,
with my family, with my friends, and the relationships that
I have. So this ritual, the cardinal points give you
this power. So I said, they spread out in the bed.
Souls of your feet represent the south, your crown, the

(44:26):
highest point, and that is the north, right side, the
east west, So you say, oh way, my right side
is the east is bringing this energy of the beginning
and my left. So I am getting this power. And
what I do in the book that is I always

(44:46):
put how you use it and what's the point? So
I want the reader to understand what what are we
doing as a navigation system. The ritual transform you into
your own compass. And then you're like, oh wait, I
practiced this during the night. My I'm going to be

(45:07):
my own compass. I'm not going to be so subject
to external conditioning. Like wait a minute, I'm like, no,
I'm my own compass.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
But is there is there something about laying in a
bed and having these cardinal directions? Are you connecting to
the Earth energy? Tell me about the energetic side of that.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
It's all vibration. And you know that the Earth has
a frequency, this is a Schumann frequency. It's it's a vibration.
So when I start getting the awareness of oh, my
body is this point of connection with Earth, with the vibration,

(46:01):
with the higher, with the higher existence its power, I
am empowering myself. I said, okay, I'm going to use
my right side to create on my left side to
give back to Earth. You know there's one of the
rituals and it's on the Sufi tradition, the Derbyses a

(46:26):
the Derbyshes from like Sufi Derbyses that I've been practicing
these for thirty years. So we leave the right arm
the east like we hold and then we give back.
This is the Sufi position, the derbish position for two

(46:46):
year olds, or the spinning. But look and the and
the heart is open and I give back only taking
taking taking or giving back. I'm so good. I only
give back. No, it's a giving and receiving as a cycle.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Yeah, the body is a tool, it's a part of
the system. It's helping the soul. So this is this
is this is soul work. I'm getting a sense of
this being soul. Yeah. We're going to take a short
commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and

(47:23):
we will return shortly with my guest today, Cynthia Zach
presenting her new book, The Joy of Sleeping Alone. We'll
rejoin you shortly. My guest today is Cynthia Zach. She

(48:18):
has written a new book called The Joy of Sleeping Alone.
And this is a look at the importance of getting
in a good night's sleep and the various aspects of
sleep spirituality. Oh, let's do another ritual, ritual number eight,

(48:39):
which is nocturnal fung shuai, which I'm always fascinated in
because that means that your room, your bedroom should have
certain items, positioning and other factors that lead for good vibration.
But tell us about that.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
This is coming from Asian China, and this is not
a book about fund shui, nothing like that. But I
wanted to give this this ritual for the readers to
be able to create awareness. So what is it under
my bed? What is this in front of me? What
objects I have around? Are they?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
They?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Do I like it? Do I like it? I connect
because also are thoughts that we never have. Really, it's like, okay,
this is what it is. This is my you like
the colors that are surrounding you. It's good to have
a mirror in front of your bed. What things you
keep under so the flow of energy is happening or not?

(49:48):
And this is not to be perfect on fund Shui,
is more to be aware to start thinking about things like,
oh do I need my computer in front of my bed?
And every time I wake up the screen is there?
Do I need this furniture color I don't know, gray

(50:14):
from my grandmother, with the energy of that living on
my on the space I'm sleeping. So it's it's this
is this ritually, it's telling a few little simple things
that you can do. Avoid electronics, place furniture in pairs,

(50:35):
bedside tables, and I explain what is the elements when
you have wood? What is the meaning of wood? A
novel element that promotes creativity? So I do I have
some wood on my bedroom. I need to have some fire,
a very powerful element that represents passion. Do I have

(50:56):
something that represents fire? Maybe I can't, the electronic candle
or maybe some red red roses. Why start picking up
objects earth, stability and strength? Do I have anything that
represents earth? Maybe a nice crystal near my bedroom or
near my bed or in my bedroom? So water, So

(51:23):
I mentioned the Jewish tradition a couple of times, and
the surfis, but the Buddhis the Buddhist tradition create an
altar that is very beautiful to have in your bedroom.
And there is water and fire and all the representations
of water, and you are ninety percent water. I like

(51:47):
to have some water on my altar or near my bed,
representing this the flow of life and emotions too. So
that's the ritual more into Okay, do I have all
these elements? It's easy, They are easy elements to get,

(52:07):
there's no sophistication, and that you have it in your house.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah. I get a sense from your writing that you
are also suggesting that people think about healing because when
you're sleeping, you're healing and you're regenerating. Why is that important?
Because tell us. What you're thinking is on that.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, this is pure biology. So first of all, there's
the glymphatic system that I mentioned is happening only when
you sleep. There's no other way for your brain to
get rid of excess kind of toxic things that you
don't need, only sleeping. That's also hormonal. You know, the

(52:57):
mean la tonin and serotonin happened during night. You need
to sleep on a dark place, turn off the light.
And because this is hormonal balance. So this is all biology,
pure biology. And there's a recuperation of cells and tissues

(53:17):
and muscles that happens only when you sleep. There's a
whole scientific uh information about that.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Do you think people forget about their bodies, Cynthia? Do
you think people are like they're so in their end,
their job or their life that they forget about their bodies.
And this is a critical aspect of living. Is this
flesh suit that we.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Have our glove? One of my teachers said, this is
a glove, but a glove. You know. I just had
a grandson. I was telling my daughter, and I work
with kids for every day I teach organ I work
with high vibrational instruments with children and families, and I'm

(54:04):
doing doula work like birth and personatal and also death doula.
I'm doing all of that. And I've been talking to
my daughter and I said, I see the baby and
it is the same body. This is not a switch
of body. This baby that is eight pounds now it's

(54:27):
going to be an adult in the same body. The baby,
the glove a stretch. Yeah, and so we are leaving
this uh Earth experience on the body. We are doing,
like the body says, a precious human rebirth. We are

(54:54):
having a precious human rebirth. And this is very rare.
We can be rebirth, reborn in nearly or other things.
If you have a precious human rebirth, you better honor
your body. Yeah, and we are super disconnected. We want

(55:15):
us disconnected. The system wants us disconnected. And going to
the doctor and getting mixed drugs. That is a full
system of disconnect. Disconnect. Don't believe what you're feeling, don't
trust your twit, don't trust the body. Cannot heal by itself.

(55:39):
I'm not saying the never go to the doctor, but
be conscious and common sense.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
So the book has sixty four rituals where I kind
of go through all of them obviously, but I want
to talk about two more. As we're concluding. There was
one that I thought was interesting. You call it guy,
Guardians of the Night Virtual number fourteen.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Okay, let me find it.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
And I was like wow, because you know, there are
forces that are on your side, but there can be
other forces as well.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Talk about this, yes, and these other forces have to
be counterbalance when seen without fear, but with a lot
of awareness of I have the power to counterbalance. Right

(56:35):
this darkness and this and this ghost things are coming
mostly from from the mind, So I need little things
that are going to help my mind to be in
the right track. Like one of my teachers says, always

(56:57):
watch your mind like a whole. This is super cool.
Watch your mind like a hawk. Okay, wait, when I'm
getting crazy, I put this hog here. Watch your mind
like a hawk. We have this power. So this ritual
and it's I love flowers, really, really adorn your home

(57:20):
with fresh flowers. I have fresh flowers in my house
always and make sure I have fresh flowers. Can be one,
can be a million, but I'm always sure the more
colors you're incorporate, the more powerful the night the night feelings.

(57:44):
So This is a very the guardians of the night.
And I'm talking about ceremony, like, do everything as a ceremony,
do everything as a ritual. Put a little bit of
intention on whatever you do. It's gonna make a big difference.
So I like these flowers, and I surround myself of

(58:07):
the magnations of the flowers, the colors, the goodness, the kindness,
the softness of these tenderness and it's just flowers. And
I say it handpicked like little things. You don't need
to spend a fortune flower arrangements.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Grow your own flowers and so you don't have to
go out and.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, grow your own flowers. Yeah, and just observe that.
And so this is a ritual. And then and yeah,
it's very it's a very profound ritual. And I'm talking
about the flowers. And you create the flower mandala. So

(58:55):
what I said about that is also you can put
a little like a paper cloth or something and create
a mandala or in on top of your bed with
some flowers. I do a lot of mandalas for ceremonies
and flower mandalas. And then you put it aside. You're

(59:17):
not going to sleep on top of the flowers. But
these create a whole new information for your system, for
your life, for your emotions.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
What do you want people to get from the understanding
of these rituals that you've created. Is it for more wholeness,
more spiritual? I mean why is it a whole bunch
of things? If you could put it into a nutshell
and say this is what I see someone who's used
my rituals, what would you say?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
More happy? You can be more happy, you can be
more connected. You're going to be more aware of your
own mand and how to deal with your craziness. Yeah,
and you're going to be much more soft on the
reactions and responses. And as you said, you're going to

(01:00:14):
be more aware of your body. You're going to start
listening to Oh wait, this heart is but this is
my heart is beating. It's a brain. It's a brain,
and there's more than forty thousand neurons on my brain.
Heart brain, heart brain, and my God is a brain also.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Or you I wish you mentioned that you are into
heartmath too, Yeah, which is I know Bruce Cryer personally,
but talk about that a little bit. Because heart math
shows that the heart has its own brain.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Doesn't mean yes and the meditations from the heartmouth systems
so beautiful because he basically says, Okay, close your eyes
and bring your nose to the center of your chest,
and you still breathing through the center of your chest,

(01:01:13):
and then you start expanding as a whole process. But
mostly is. And I work a lot with the heart
beat for music and with children and adults when I
train adults, and majority said to me, oh wait, I
never hear my own herbit, and I do. I work

(01:01:33):
a lot with the stettoscopes with children and families, and
they're like weight and they are like, there's a heartbit here,
there's a rhathm there's information, there's a brain. You know.
The all the hardmuths revolutionary ideas is that first to

(01:01:56):
the to the heart, and then to the brain. This
is the first thing that's thinking, not the brain. It's
bottom up. It's called.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Bottom up, bottom up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Okay, it's not on the co it's like it yeah,
bottom up. But and it's true you think first thoughts.
First processing is and the brain heart and then goes
to the brain head m hm. And it's connected with
your guts. And I can say there's many other brains.

(01:02:32):
We are a whole system of intelligence. Like our skin.
We are incredible intelligence, intelligent beings that are disconnected from
our bodies, from the souls. There's a lot of ideas
and stories about being like modest and being a good girl,

(01:02:59):
a good boy. If I don't take care of my
body like this is vanity an ego, this is wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Yeah, it's funny. We're gonna take a short commercial break
to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will
return shortly with my guests today, Cynthia Zach discussing her
new book, The Joy of Sleeping Alone. We'll be right back.

(01:04:09):
My guest today is Cynthia Zacht. She's coming to us
from Florida, and her new book, The Joy of Sleeping Alone,
has just come out. Talk a little bit about and
you mentioned this earlier, using the book as a ritualistic
system where you perhaps have an intention of what you

(01:04:31):
want that evening to be like, and you hold the
book and then you just flip it and you whatever
you land on is the ritual for the night. Is that?
Do I got that right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah? Fun this is an oracle.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Oracle, thank you. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
There you go. If you sleep alone because you're single
or whatever. You don't want to sleep with anybody. Just
open the book, flip the pages and you get a ritual.
Ask you if you sleep with a part as a
ton instead of creating a disruption and kind of tension,
unnecessary tension. Just you know what, Let's open, let's thinking

(01:05:12):
a question together and live and this is an oracle.
So I can think about my question and I open
Benefactors ritual forty five benefactors, which is beautiful and lying
on your bed, close your eyes, feel the way to

(01:05:34):
you of your body, and you start bringing the unseen
benefactors of your life. If you see, if you go
through your day, there's so many benefactors that helps you
with everything, unseen, un seen benefactors that are around you

(01:05:57):
all around your life. If and you're being so you
do this ritual and that's the oracle. And you can
do it just for the night, or you can make
a decision of okay, I'm going to practice this ritual
for a whole week. Also, this is not a conventional book.

(01:06:22):
And the way you read a conventional book, you start
with page one and you finish. I don't want that.
I want you to play with the book and explore
and say, oh, this is interesting, like like a tarot card.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Tarot very good. Yeah, tell us how we go through
and we want to start sleeping alone, but we have
a very dominant partner. How do we broach that to
them without having a big fight?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's it's a conversation. The thing with
this book makes you see that. It's like, if if
the thought of saying that to my partner creates anxiety myself,
that's something to see. This is an excuse really, so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
You want to keep the peace in a relationship. You
don't want to be fighting. But I mean there could
be somebody who's very strong willed who says, you're my woman,
must sleep with me, yeah every night, even though it
might disrupt your pattern. I'm the more important one of
the regions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
No, But in that case, what my invitation is, Okay,
if it's very unbearable and it creates a big fight,
and just take it easy, have the book and practice yourself,
even if you're sleeping next to this person, and try
to start connected with your power, with your night power.

(01:08:01):
There's so much information there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Maybe slowly integrate some of the ritual into the bedroom
with the flowers that won't upset the partner because they'll think, oh,
that's a nice edition.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, we're going to have from now on, we're going
to have elements that represent the elements, and I'm going
to have something to represent the fire and then the flowers.
And then another ritual that I love that is in
the book is how you kind of charge your sheets

(01:08:37):
and you're even your pajamas. Something you can do with
your partner, like you put intention on magic psycho magic.
Also there's a lot of symbolic symbolic things in play here,
but you integrate that and then maybe this very strict

(01:09:04):
partner or start start getting more sweet and loosen up.
And I like honey and the sugar scrabs before going
to bed. So you wash or you bath yourself with sugar.
That's something that your partner can do to that's one

(01:09:26):
of the riches here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Oh my god, I haven't heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Okay, yeah you okay. You go in the shower, get wet,
and bring a little jar with sugar, any sugar, white,
any sugar, and then close the water and you scrab
the sugar and you do your prayers, you do your
your your intention of this. I'm coating my myself, my

(01:09:51):
life with sugar, with sweetness, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
You wash that's a fascinating look at things.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
It's amazing. And then believe me, this is all You're
gonna go to bed with a different tone. It's all
vibration in a different frequency. Yeah, you already have this.
I create this sweetness for myself.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
It seems to me that you have written this book
because your feeling is it's very critical to get a
good night's sleep, but it's also important to have a
spiritual practice before your sleep so that you can download
and heal and prepare and evolve. Is what it feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yeah, because as I said, the subconscious mind is they
are much more present and is strong during the nighttime.
Different vibration the night, it's like it's the vibration of
the question is a different vibration of the answer. The

(01:11:08):
vibration of the day is different than the night. And again,
we are disconnected with lights for everything, we lost the
ability to see like an animal, like a dark night.
We're afraid, and this book is calling like, Okay, don't

(01:11:29):
be afraid. Go into your rituals, create your space, make
things more beautiful, and then when you go to sleep
and you see the results during the day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
How does your husband react to this? He must be
well trained.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Well here's my ex husband's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Okay, so you're single now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah yeah, yea yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
So you're living a good life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
For a while. But but the process, this, the process
of the book start when I was married and and
observing what happened with his not and the same bed.
And then as I told you, it's like, what is
this happiness? This is very special happiness. Uh So that's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Why the book came about.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, part of that for talking to my friends and
and even I have friends that I show the book
to that they're married and that they're together. And I
showed the book and the husband was kind of wait, no, no, no,
you're gonna put crazy ideas on my wife mind now,

(01:12:49):
Like afraid. But if if this is happening, is because
as other things happening, this is just excuse for sure
those other issues that need to be address.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Yeah, the book's called The Joy of Sleeping Alone. My
guest today has been Cynthia Zach. Do you have a
YouTube channel where you're showing videos where you're presenting this
or some of the rituals that people go see.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Yeah, I have the website Cynthia Zach dot org or
the instagram Cynthia Zack Official, and I have a I
have a channel Cynthia Sack that I have a lot.
There's a lot in English and Spanish. I'm going to
start creating content in English because the book is this

(01:13:39):
my first book in English?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Oh my god, fantastic. We should let people know that
the book is pre ordered. Now, what's the official release date?
Is it the middle of this month?

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Yeah, the middle of the man the middle of November.
The middle of November is available in all bookstores and
on the platform, so that you can buy the book
in any way.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, and I saw it on Amazon, I believe. So
you could pre order on Amazon and then have it
delivered right when it's released in a week or two.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
And if you have questions and the readers and want
to know more and commentaries, and also you can write
to me on Instagram. I check all the messages.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
You know. It's funny. I have a feeling that you
may have talked to some indigenous people as well, and
some of your work is based on indigenous traditions. You're
from Argentina, but would you say that there are indigenous
people that have or tribes or individuals who had practices

(01:14:43):
that have bits and pieces of what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Oh, totally absolutely, and also especially for females, you know,
really this for instance, the postpartum forty days, and the
western world is like whatever, you will be fine, You
will be fine. In other traditions it's very sacred and

(01:15:10):
you have to be a lot with rest and sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
So after delivering a baby, you should be kind of
taking care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Absolutely at least for forty days. And this is not
what happened here. This is a rush of everything. And
indigenous traditions and Eastern traditions are much more aware of
the power of the night and the rituals, and also

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how we sleep because Westerners we need to have such
a kind of perfect environment, the temperature, the sheets, the
bed that go back and forth. It's a whole ordeal.
And you go to Japan and you sleeping a foot
on Why what is this with the body? What is

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this with the with the body system, with the spine,
with emotions? What balances more my my my well being?
You know, And it's it's if you go through how
different cultures sleep, it is all different, but I'm focusing

(01:16:27):
on because I'm here in the Western world. I was
born in the Western world, and and I see and
and it's so important, and especially now I mentioned that,
but the electronics and and the blue light and all
of the things that are disturbed melatonin hormonal balance. We're

(01:16:50):
seeing more and more issues with children having a lot
of problems sleeping, resting, anxieties. You're in sleep during nighttime,
and it's all a reflection of how we are.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Cynthia. Really a pleasure having you on the program. And
you have a unique book, much success.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Thank you, Thank you for invitation. It's so much fun,
the joy of slipping. Look, did you see how shiny
it is?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
I love I love the colors and just the whole
design of the book is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Yeah, this is so cool. This is Inner Traditions. My publisher. Yeah,
that they published my book. That was the first book
they published in a Spanish original.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
The very first book you wrote they published in Spanish. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Yeah, and for them for Inner Traditions was the first
book in the Spanish they published original Reagion and Spanish.
They have a lot of translations. They want my book
and they published in Spanish and and they said let's
do it in English, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
We are fantastic. Hey, well, much success on that new release.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Thank you, thank you very much, thank you, thank you
very much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
I mentioned at the beginning of the interview that I
had done a little bit of research on my own
because I was somewhat taken aback at the idea of,
you know, sleeping alone if you're married or if you're
in a relationship. I I don't know if I would
like it unless there was a reason for, you know,
and the needs for sleep and somebody had sleep apnea

(01:18:38):
or was story really loud or was physically unable to
relax and sleep in bed. You know, that would be
somebody you really don't want to sleep with. But my
issue was that I I wanted. I mean, I feel
that there's healing and there's connection, There is a bonding
that's the word, that takes place when you're with your

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partner in bed, and you know, it's just it's a
very sacred time together. Now, the research I did found
that there's a large percentage of women who can't get
good sleeps with their spouse or with their partners, and
it's a problem for some people so I'm not sure

(01:19:23):
where Cynthia got this, but seems like she did her research,
and she even mentions it in the beginning of the
book that there's a lot of people that are in relationships.
I think I'm looking at it right here. The report
found the Better Sleep Counsel of the United States in
twenty twenty three. The report found that sixty three percent

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of couples do not sleep together for most of the night. Moreover,
twenty six percent of respondents said they slept better alone,
and nine percent admitted to sleeping in separate bedrooms. I
guess I don't know. I don't know enough about it.
I should have asked her generation for generations, you know, generationally,

(01:20:05):
if what's the generations that have most of the separate sleeping,
Because if you're just married, that's gonna be really tough
to sleep in different you know, beds, in different rooms.
Of course, when I was married, I had lived with
my girlfriend I think four years before we got married,
so we kind of knew each other. But you kind

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of get the gist of what I'm saying is that
it's it's I think it's awkward. You have to have
a very understanding spouse to sleep in another room. I
seem the possibilities of sleeping together in the same room
in separate beds, that makes more sense. And then you
just hop in the other person's bed when you want

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to be into it so fun, fun to think about.
So there you go, The Joy of Sleeping Alone. It's
gonna come out in about a week, so you can
do pre orders on mon and check out at her website.
Cynthia zach Zak The Joy of Sleeping Alone. Hey, if
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