Destiny: Sarah McCrum, Love Money, Money Loves You

A few weeks after the failure of her business in London, Sarah was asked a question in a book she was reading. “What does money want to say to you?” She started writing a response and found words coming out of her pen that weren’t her own. They started with, “I would like to tell you to love me.”She was deeply touched, and intrigued to explore more about the source of this message. She went on to write in the same way every day for three months and ended up with a collection of surprising, funny and inspiring advice, apparently from the energy of money itself.Those writings turned into this book. It takes you into the heart of the world of money, but not into financial systems as they exist on this planet.

Rather it gives you an insight into how the money energy operates behind our physical world.It shows you what happens when you make any financial request and explains why so many people struggle with lack of money. It gives clear, simple guidelines on how to transform your relationship with money so you can be aligned with the way it works naturally, including two blueprints for making money in today's world.It's funny at times, very uplifting and enlightening in surprising ways, offering a view of money unlike anything we've seen elsewhere. Perhaps the most radical discovery in these writings is the sense that money is not a neutral energy that we can make good or bad decisions about. It is a truly benign, loving energy that is always available for us. This challenges many of our preconceived notions about money and invites us into a profoundly different relationship with it.

Most people experience fear and stress around money and they’re not aware how much it’s influencing their business, financial and family life, and their impact in the world. Sarah McCrum is a leading money consciousness coach who has transformed the lives of over twenty thousand business owners and their families. She offers a practical, relaxed approach to transforming your relationship with money, based on her book, Love Money. Money Loves You. Her courses enable business owners, leaders and investors to combine true wealth with true wellbeing.

Websites: Sarahmccrum.com (main website)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SarahMcCrum1

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to Destiny.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, this is Halloween week,
so make sure you dress up and go trick court
Trea team. Hey, this is Cliff, your host of Destiny.
And although this is the holiday week Halloween being Friday

(00:36):
the thirty first, we are celebrating something unusual. We have
a new author who has released a book, Would You Believe?
On Money? And it's not a kind of an investment book.
It's not a book on how to get out of
debt or how to say or whatever. It's actually the
energy of money. This is one of the most unique

(00:56):
books that I've ever read. I even had a chains
to hear it on audible and the author is Sarah
McCrumb and she is wonderful in her presentation of money.
And this is really unheard of. And for me, it's
not unusual because I've over the years heard from people

(01:19):
who have done automatic writing, or they have channeled energy
or beings who are passed on. Remember I'm here in
San Francisco. Is kind of the heart of a woo woo,
the insane, the amazing, the unknown, content from the occult,

(01:41):
from the provocative worlds that are not typically discussed outside
of casual unions with people. But what makes this really
a remarkable program today is the fact that money, according
to my guest today, has a consciousness and can actually

(02:02):
work with you if you are open to the suggestions
of this consciousness, which is money. And it's been with
us for a long time. And I'm one who not
only find this material excellent and very very needed, but

(02:23):
I think we're at a place in our evolution where
we need to begin thinking of money as a source
of access to not only resources and things we want,
but to help others. And this is the theme of
today's program, is helping others through building activities, through giving

(02:48):
people an opportunity to better themselves. Because we have a
lot of people that are in desperate need of support.
We have a lot of people that are out of work.
We have a lot of people that are depressed and
lost because they are unable to make a living. And
that is depressing by itself when you are unable to

(03:11):
put food on the table, to put a roof over
your head, and get around in a car, to be
able to commute to places. And so I think there's
a need to give everybody the basics so they are
self sufficient, and right now in the United States, we

(03:31):
are dealing with millions of people who aren't able to function,
who aren't able to feed themselves, who aren't able to
get around, who are kind of stuck in the mud,
so to speak. And I'm not going to get into
politics today, but this interview is very unique in the

(03:52):
fact that it is a source of information that highlights
our future. And some of the concepts you're here today
will fall into an evolutionary pattern that you'll understand to
be our next steps as a humanity. How we invest,

(04:13):
how we create income, how we can all be very
comfortable if we want. So fascinating program. So today's program
is Love Money, Money Loves You, and my guest is
Sarah McCrumb hey. The Earth Engins' final tour of the

(04:35):
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allowed anymore. They've also reduced the ability to climb, to touch,
to integrate with the pyramids, with the temples with the

(04:58):
archaeological parks, and we are moving to Guatemala for this
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you why we are allowed by the Guatemala government and
the archaeological community to connect, to sit, to meditate, and
to activate these pyramids. This tour is really for you,

(05:23):
to give you a chance to integrate, to meditate, and
to work with these sacred energies. This tour features archaeologists,
features shaman, features research investigators, and it offers you an
opportunity to climb the pyramids. For all the details. For
more information, go to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash

(05:47):
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rare and wonderful opportunity to connect with the ancient Mayan pyramids.
Come out and join us earth acients dot com forward
slash Tours. We've got a good one this week, and

(06:37):
I'm always happy to introduce a new author. You know,
we speak about and we think about money, because that's
how do we get around, as how we do things,
as how we enjoy life, or in some cases, if
we don't have money, we're suffering a little bit. But
my guest today is Sarah McCrumb. She has written a
book called Love Money, Money Loves You. And I got

(07:00):
to tell you, I have been I've talked to a
lot of people who have done what I consider channel
of work or automatic writing work, where this information comes
through on a certain occasion and it is so profound
that you have to stop and go what the heck
is going on here? And this book is unique because

(07:25):
somehow Sarah tapped into the energy of money to a
degree where it is speaking to her on the different
levels of acquiring money, how humans react and deal with money,
and it's just very well written. I just endorse it completely.
And we're really really fortunate to have Sarah on the program.

(07:47):
So Sarah, welcome to Destiny. Just a great pleasure to
have you on the program.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, thank you, such a warm welcome. I can really
feel it inside me. It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
We should say that I'm here in San Francisco Bay area,
you're in what part of Australia.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I'm on the Sunshine Coast in Australia, and I have
to say that because of your introduction, the energy of
money is here somewhere as well, with us very present.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, fantastic, Well, The first thing I want to ask
you is, in the beginning of your book, you describe
I think you were reading a book on money, and
part of the work was to write something down or
there was some work book programs that they wanted you

(08:37):
to work with, and what was happening. Talk about when
this began coming through you as you were writing, because
this is really critical.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Somehow you yeah, somehow it happened. It was, first of all,
totally by surprise. I'd actually i had a lot of
time on my hands because I'd just gone through a
business failure which came out of the recession in two
thousand and eight. This was twenty ten, and we finally
had to close the doors, couldn't pay the bills, all
that miserable experience.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Oh boy.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I was used to working pretty much seven days
a week, the usual entrepreneurial grind, and so I literally
can still remember I was sitting on my bed, nothing
to do, and I've been given this tiny little book
called How to Become a Money Magnet. I wasn't able
to pay the rent at that point, so it was
a very critical situation. And it just had those simple

(09:30):
questions at the end of each chapter journaling questions, and
one of them was what would money like to say
to you? And I was journaling, my pen just literally
took over. Literally, it was like it started writing and
that the words that were coming out couldn't possibly have
been my words, because the very first thing it said
to me is I would like to tell you to
love me.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I could not have written that. I could never have
even thought of loving money. I came from a family
where you don't talk about money even And it went
on and said all these beautiful things and just said,
you know, I'm an energy, I'm very powerful and beautiful,
and I'm not the devil, and I connect human beings
together through your creativity. And it finished. I wrote about

(10:09):
two pages, completely fluently, not a single crossing out or mistake.
I've still got it in my cupboard here, handwritten. And
it ended saying, don't wait, just take me.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I will love you.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
And that was the beginning, and I started. It was
like so intriguing and surprising and heart opening, you know,
it just my heart melted when I read what it
said because it was so different from anything I'd ever heard.
And so I just the next day I said, do
you have something else to say to me. And it did.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh but and that's how the book started. You just
kept going.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
That's how the book was written. The book has basically
the only editing I did was there were a few
words that I changed in the whole thing. And there
are one or two pieces I took out because I
felt there was a bit too much of me in it.
I'd probably just you know, be in a bit moody
or something like that, get not a really clear channel
or something. And I organized the chapters, but they pretty

(11:06):
much are in the order that I wrote them. The
book is just the pure raw message from money. That's
how it came out. That all of that writing was
without crossings out. It's extraordinary because if you would see
me writing normally, it's a completely different story.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, they're handwritten. You're not typing these into the computer.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Their hands written, handwritten everything, yep, in a little notebook.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
And this is I guess you would define it as
automatic writing.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Right, automatic writing, channeled writing, whatever. You Yeah, there are
different words, but yes, it feels like automatic writing because
I would sit down and words would start to form,
not in my mind that I then transferred to the pen.
It's almost like the words form in the pen and
me and all at the same time, and so it's

(11:52):
just a simultaneous experience.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Are you feeling a certain mental clarity when this begins
to happen, when you grab your pen and you sit
down to write, do you go, I'm ready to go money,
you know, whenever you want to bring it through.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I mean, I think sitting down in that moment where
I sit down, because I know that that's what I'm doing,
that's the preparation. It's just the decision. I'm now open
to whatever money wants to say to me. So I
don't go through any rituals or anything like that to
connect with the energy of money. It's just there. It's
always there, and I just I'm open. What happens for

(12:31):
me is because I'm receiving this information from money. Nothing
else is present. I am quite able, Like in this
conversation now, I'm not thinking about breakfast or I'm not
thinking about anything except communicating with you with some awareness
that there's an audience out there. So I'm one hundred
percent in this. It's just the same as that when

(12:51):
I'm writing. I'm one hundred percent in writing, so I'm
not thinking about you know, the laundry or normal everyday stuff,
just one hundred percent present for whatever's happening.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Has money told you that you are not the only
one that it is communicating on this level?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yes? Actually, there were a whole lot of books that
came through about money around that time. Most of them
tend to get interpreted at a much more business sea level,
so much more pragmatic. Mine went more was more like
what is the energy of money that's behind business and
money and all of everything that happens. But there was
a little flurry of books, so I know it was

(13:31):
like money at that time, or the energy of money
was really trying to help us get a better understanding
of it. You can see in some even back can
go back more than one hundred years. There was a
guy called Wallace Waffles who wrote a little book, I
can't remember the name of it now, beautiful book about
what money really is. He was somewhat religious, so it

(13:53):
was all tied in with God, but it's the essence
was the same. And I teach people how to write
myslf just from money. It's not like there's a fancy
art to it. I just say, okay, here you are,
now go and write a message from money, and they do,
and it says the same kind of thing. So that's
what's important. It doesn't go and say to somebody else,

(14:14):
you know, you've messed up your life and you're an idiot,
And it never talks like that. It's an energy of
love and beauty and generosity and the natural abundance that
literally our soul longs for. And you know, in our
souls we love abundance. We're not ashamed or embarrassed about it.

(14:34):
As human beings we've taught, we've been taught to be
ashamed and embarrassed about it, or to crave it, or
to be greedy, all these things. But at a sole
level that your soul really resonates with the abundance of life,
and money is a part of that.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Where do you think money resides in the galactic awareness?
Is it on a different level, is it here on
some human level on Earth, resonating, vibrating. Where do you
think it resides?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So I think I can answer that question in different levels.
So there's a level at which this is what I've
come to recognize over the years because I've been working
it for working with it for quite a while. Now,
there's a level at which the energy of money is
actually the energy of the exchange of value across the

(15:28):
universe through life. So it's the same energy that when
a tree we breathe out carbon dioxide that a tree
breaths in, a tree breathes out oxygen that we breathe in.
There's an exchange of value happening there, and that's the
energy of money is in that. So money is all

(15:51):
fundamentally at at a deeper level, it's about value always,
you know. It's the essence of money is value, and money,
as we see it is a system we've created to
enable more sophisticated exchanges of values, so we don't just
have about exchange that is happening all the way through
every form of life. At another level, and this really

(16:13):
came from the book. It's very funny in some parts
because it talks about this almost like a bureaucracy in
the sky kind of thing, an energy organization with ledgers,
and yeah, it's that's how I saw it when I
was writing it. It's like, there are all these beings
there and they have their ledgers, and when some human

(16:34):
beings says, oh, I really want to thing in the
shop there, but I can't afford it. They write down,
you know, Cliff wants to buy dot dot dot.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
How would you say money was approaching us during the
previous generations, like our ancestors say, like prior to the
monetary systems being built up, like when we were more
of the medieval periods, and following that, was it the same?

(17:10):
I mean, it's somewhat similar, I should say, I guess
my question. Yeah, it's an energy. So but we've made
it more pronounced in the most recent decades, our need
to acquire money and to have things.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
So I think there's a couple of different things. I
can I see what you're getting at. So, if we
go back in history, the simplest systems of exchange we
had between human beings were systems of barter and also
gift systems that they used to have in some first
nations people's they weren't necessarily exchanging something for something, but

(17:50):
they had quite elaborate systems of giving things that had
symbolic meaning and all of that. So that's the same
energy and the same energy actually that animals and plants
give themselves to us to be eaten, so that they
feed us and we well, when we end our life,
we actually give ourselves back into life as well. So

(18:12):
there's always this exchange going on at multiple levels. But
I think what's happened is because what I understand about
life as it evolves is it becomes more complex. So
we have a much more complex system now we have
in their certain distortions because at every level, human beings
interpret this energy through their emotional and other filters, and

(18:34):
we've adopted some understandings about money that are quite distorted
from what was shared with me, and that when you
push those distortions quite a long way. So, for example,
if there's a distortion in a company being that its
first priority is profit and that that can be at

(18:55):
the expense of quite a lot of things of value.
It can be at the expense of relationship, so it
can be expensive nature, it can be the expense of
the human beings, the employees who work there, often working
incredibly hard, and all of that. So when we make
money the center in that kind of way rather than value,

(19:16):
which is what money actually represents, then we get these distortions.
When those distortions go a long way, you start to
get a system like we have now where the money
system itself just feels completely out of alignment with human values,
and it's like it's it keeps getting worse and worse.
But we can also see that the imposion is happening.

(19:38):
It's not able to sustain itself anymore in this particular distortion.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
One of the things that you bring up in the
Money brings up in the book is the fact that
monetary values are changing in the future, and in the
future there will be different ways of a cumulating money,
and it'll be it seems to me that the messages

(20:04):
it'll be easier. Can you talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yes, I think I can already see that in my
life and experience and in working with clients. I can
see that as we understand the energy of money better,
we actually behave differently in relation to it, and it
makes us make different systems. So I'm now involved in
two other businesses that are trying to build systems. Business systems,

(20:32):
if you like, that are based on these principles, and
then they involve naturally well being. You prioritize well being
in a business that respects that. The principles that money
shared with me, there's a mutuality. You don't try to
extract as much as you can out of people or
out of nature and pay as little as possible for it.

(20:54):
You recognize the value of everything that's contributed to a business,
and you try to reflect that fairly in pricing and
in all, you know, the business things. So that's the
first layer where we're beginning to design different businesses and
doing business in different ways. And I'm literally in the

(21:14):
middle of these conversations just before I was talking with you,
I was, you know, literally in these conversations right now
putting all of that together so that we can do
business in a way that feels right for us as
human beings. It's like, I want to be involved in that.
It's respectful, it has dignity, it has love baked into it,

(21:38):
because that's that's what we are. And it's about well being.
It's about enhancing the well being. We don't who wants
to make money out of sickness and like we we
have to deal with sickness. We don't want to make
an industry out of sickness or an industry out of death.
We need to we want to make an industry out

(21:58):
of health and vitality and creativity and productivity, genuine productivity
of the you know, the brilliance of human beings, not
the weakness of human beings. That's a healthy society. To me,
it's so obvious. I don't understand why we don't just
agree with it and get on with it.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well, that's why I was so wonderful about listening to
money speak through you, which is when you have ideas
that are of service to others. This is where you
can manifest large amounts of money depending on the larger picture. Groups,
you know, things like that. Talk about that because I

(22:38):
thought that was very impactful.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So my experience, what I've come to understand is that
we are in an evolution in relation to money itself
at the moment. And whereas money in recent times, as
you pointed out, has gone a lot to certain types
of people and certain types of behavior, and we're not
in enjoying that very much, most of us. Now, it

(23:03):
seems that there's a shift in the it's almost like
a shift in the expression of money itself towards greater
alignment with purpose. Now we already see there's plenty of
evidence that actually shows that purpose aligned businesses perform better
financially as well as in other ways. But what's interesting

(23:24):
is I think also they have a different curve. So
many people in today's world are trying to chase this
like explosion of wealth and very fast growth. A purpose
aligned business will have a different pathway because you tend
to be more steady, You have to be very determined
you keep going for a long time. That the success

(23:45):
that it's possible to create through that the words that
come to me, like I want to say, we really
don't have any idea how powerful it is to actually
align purpose and money the challenges we still think we
need to perform in the way that the marketing tells us.

(24:07):
It's a different path because when you align purpose with money,
you align values with wealth, and so you create wealth
in a different way, and you create wealth in multiple dimensions.
It's not just how much money have you got? Is
your wealth, but it's what's the quality of your life,
what's the quality of your relationships, both business and personal.
What's the wisdom that you bring into your decisions, Because

(24:30):
if you don't make wise decisions in the future, that's
going to have consequences and your business and your wealth
will fall off a cliff.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Are you suggesting things become part of it? Okay? Excuse me? Yeah,
are you suggesting that we should be more intuitive in
how we approach money and not necessarily focus so much
on the business of making money, which is like we
go to and become an MBA and we do the
corporate kind of levels to success, whereas perhaps if we're

(25:04):
more individual and we have a passion and a love
for a project, this is a better way to move.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I would say, yeah, definitely, you will not learn any
of this stuff if you go the MBA corporate route.
They are in really strong denial of most of what
I'm talking about, which is why it's often so uncomfortable
for people. There are very good people in life. It
doesn't mean that a company can't be large, and there
are very good people and very good companies. But typically

(25:34):
the MBA corporate route is very money focused and it's
not like we always come back to value. So the
thing that doesn't work is being really passionate about something
and ignoring business, right, because that's what a lot of
people try to do, right, and they say, oh, I
really care about this, I want to serve, I want

(25:55):
to help people, I want to change the world. But
when it comes to business, I don't know how to
ask for money and I feel really shy and embarrassed,
and I want to be a nonprofit it so, well,
who's going to pay for you as a nonprofit. It's
that business that goes out and makes profit. You're going
to go and have to beg to them to get
your nonprofit going. So let's be grown up about this

(26:15):
and recognize money is the fuel of business. Money. Look
the way I put it, I just love this. Let's
say you provide me with a service and I give
you some money as my part of the exchange. I've
given you a piece of freedom. I've given you something.
You can do whatever you want with that money, and
I'm not putting any tie on it whatsoever. I'm not

(26:38):
saying you can only go and spend that on food, Cliff,
I don't want you to spend it on books because
I don't like books or something. So that you can
do whatever you want with the money that I put
in your direction. So I'm actually giving you freedom rather
than a thing. That's the beauty of this system is
that it enables us to have so much freedom, and

(27:00):
that's part of the sophistication of today's financial system. Is
on the one hand, yeah, that distortion is in there,
But on the other hand, it is a system that's
enabling very significant freedoms for us.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
our sponsors to identify themselves, and will return shortly with
my guest today, Sarah McCrumb discussing her new book, Love Money,
Money Loves You. Will be right back. My guest today

(28:22):
is author Sarah macrumb. She has written a new book
called Love, Money, Money Loves You. This is a insight
on the energy, the energy of money and how it
influences us and how we can influence it for greater joy,
success and rewards in life. One of the things, yeah,

(28:50):
one of the things that is really pushed and highlighted
in your book is that money says we are unlimited.
Did ye? I want you to talk a little bit
about that, because I think a lot of people feel that.
And I don't know if it's because of their upbringing
or societies norms, but I think most of us have

(29:12):
felt that there's only so much to go around.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yes, this is another one that works on so many
different levels. At one level, the flow of value, the
exchange of value. You know included in value is love?
Is there really a limit to love that can flow
between human beings, that turns into us doing things for

(29:39):
each other, contributing to each other's lives. There isn't really.
I mean, there's a sort of physical limit that I'm
not going to live forever, and so within my lifetime
I'll be able to contribute a certain amount. But it's
not like, well you can only do this, Sarah, because
then it's all going to stop. It's up to me

(30:00):
to think about how I do that. You know, you're
not going to say, well, I just want to stop
my podcast here, I don't want any more listeners. You'd
probably love to have more listeners. You've already grown it
to be huge, and you'd love to grow more because
you're doing something valuable for people. So and there's no
limit to that really. Now, of course, yes, you can't

(30:21):
have more than seven billion, and you're not going to
have seven billion listeners to your podcast because we have
other podcasts and all of that, and that's all fine.
But I think the point is what we've grown up
with is this feeling that if I give some money
to you, I've lost and you've gained. We all have
that in us somehow, and it's a technical, very limited level,
that's true. But when you see that money is energy,

(30:42):
you see it's a flow. And my thinking these days
is when I pay for something, I'm actually opening up
the flow. And that's what I've seen to be the
case that when I've got stuck with money, you know
it's been a bit low, I usually tighten up everything,
which is sensible, you know, don't spend money. But I
get too tight and then it's like, okay, I can manage.

(31:03):
I don't need any more, and money says, oh she
doesn't need anymore. Okay, well we'll do for alone with
her tight little And when I start to say no,
I want something good for myself. This is an act
of love to myself. It always opens up the flow again.
Now that's not to say I go and blow everything
or I do something really stupid. We have to be

(31:25):
we have constraints and we have we live in unlimited
and constrained at the same time, and so we're learning
how to you know, we have bodies. I can't be
in America and Australia right now, but I'm pretty close
because I'm looking at your beautiful picture.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You know, you provide us with a really interesting analogy
of a room full of I'm just going to call
them accountants who are writing down in the visual wishes.
I want to have this dress, I want this car,
and so forth. Why why is that analogy important for
the reader or the listener? And by the way, those

(32:05):
of you listening, Siah has a fantastic audible narration of
this book that is just worth the price of gold.
So if you're not a big reader like I am,
get the audible version. But anyhow, get into my mind.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And it's also on Spotify. It's useful for because lots
of people are reading it on Spotify these days.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
On Spotify.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, it's on Spotify too. So why is it important
to understand that there is almost like a kind of
the money department the sky that the intangible governance systems
of our planet. It's important because it helps you to
understand what's actually happening when you want something, so I

(32:49):
can unpack that a little bit. It's literally like when
you say, let's say, I don't know, you say, I
really want to get A new word comes into my
mind is fishing rod. And it's such a silly thing
to think about fishing rods. But okay, well, let's say
a fishing rod, or if you're not into fishing, I

(33:11):
really want to get something for me or for my business,
or for my children or for my whoever it is.
It's something you really want. That's a wish, okay, And
especially when it's not a heady wish, it's something like
it comes from your soul and your heart. You just
love it. I really love that your face lights up.
Beautiful wish. Okay, when that wish is formed inside you,

(33:34):
it's just like that moment. I'd love that. That's the
wish formation that's written down in a ledger in this
kind of you know, it's a bit like a Kashak
Records or something. I think it's really like that. Probably
I don't know much about a Kashak Records, but this
is a record keeping system. So they're write down in
the ledger. Cliff wants a really beautiful, expensive, really fancy

(33:56):
fishing rod or whatever it is. And then the thoughts
and feelings you have are like the qualifiers. So when
you go to Amazon, you say I want to buy
a T shirt, so you look up T shirts on Amazon,
but then you say, it's not any old T shirt.
I want a white T shirt, and I want it
with the patterns on it, and I want to size medium.
Da da da. So this is where we put conditions

(34:18):
on our wish But there are conditions that human beings put,
like I really want that beautiful fishing rod, but I
can't afford it, and people like me never get fishing
rods like that because I can only get the cheapest
of everything because I'm poor. Can you see? All of
that's an instruction too, And so they have to write
in their book because they're under very strict laws. They're

(34:39):
not like us, you know, do whatever you want. It's
like you have to follow the law. Cliff wants beautiful
fishing rod, we register that, so we're here to organize
that for him. But the conditions are that people like
him never get fishing rods like that, so he's we've
got to wait until he opens up that it's actually
possible for him to get one. And they literally they

(34:59):
have works so hard to keep our conditions precise, to
keep to our conditions. So it's like putting in in
order to Amazon. You pay for it, and then you
lock your letterbox and you lock your door, and you
don't let the post person anywhere near you. They've got
it ready for you, but you won't let them deliver
it to you. That's what we do with our thoughts,

(35:22):
our feelings, our energy as well and of course our actions.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, you know, the book is a wonderful progression of ideas, thoughts,
and practices. Would you say, after the person reads the book,
or perhaps listens to the audible recording, that they've been
prodded to begin shifting to allow money to come in

(35:54):
more frequently, or what do you feel after being having
this book out as long as you have.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
What I've found is that people the minute they read
the first chapter of it, the first message that I got,
something starts to shift inside them. A lot of people
experience the energy. Some people when they pick up the book,
it's literally warm in their hands. Literally. Yeah, a lot
of people feel the It's like they can feel the truth.

(36:25):
There are many people who've read every book about money
under the sun, you know, all the New Wealth books,
Napoleon Hill through to you know, Jack can feel Bob Procter,
the Secret, all of that. They've read all of them,
and they say, this is the first time I felt that.
It's like it goes to a deeper truth. It's not
that there's nothing wrong with those books. They're fantastic. Those

(36:47):
people have made such a difference to us. But this
takes you into that place that resolves the conflict we
mostly have about money. So people say it feels true.
Lots of people get financial results while they're reading it
that surprises so they I saw this incredible testimonial review

(37:07):
of the book on Goodreads the other day. I actually
had never linked up my Goodreads account properly, and I
went and had a look. And this guy had been
for years completely stuck in his life, and he said
he'd got a six figure job that was perfectly aligned
with who he is while he was reading the book
because he had changed his experience of money. This was amazing.

(37:31):
I had another guy I spoke to once in an
interview like this actually, and he went to somebody who
was working for he realized he was charging too little,
and in a single conversation, tripled what he was being paid. Now,
I'm not saying these examples as like, Okay, go and
expect some amazing miracle happens to everybody. Everyone has their

(37:54):
own journey, Okay, I don't want to set fake and
these things happen because we were relax and open up,
not because we go and try really hard to work
with the energy of money. There's a very relaxed connection
between us and money. The harder you try, the harder
it is.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, and that's the takeaway that I got, which is,
let it happen, don't fight it. Ask for something and
then think about it and just keep you know, don't
say I don't deserve it. You know we have so
many bet.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Let go of all of that. I don't deserve it.
I'm not worth it. I can't afford it. Maybe you
can't afford it right now, but that's not to say
you won't be able to. So just stay open. I
love this thing. I want this thing. It's perfectly normal
to say I can't do it this month.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
It's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Maybe not next month, but I want it. I really
want that to come into my life.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I want you to address this one statement that comes
through the book a few different times, which is money
is unlimited and each of us can be billionaire. When
I heard that, I was so shocked. I was like,
oh my god, because that's like unlimited resources, resources that

(39:12):
you can help generations of your family. You know, and
maybe that's what the idea is, is that you are
able to help others.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I think that's where I mean at a technical level,
it's an unlimited energy. As I said before, there's not
really a limit to what we can contribute to other people,
the value we can create. There's a limit, yes, if
we're relying on a certain amount of metal that exists
in the earth to use it. Even those things are

(39:43):
changing because I know they'll start mining asteroids and things,
but it's not so much about that. I don't want
to get into that area. But there isn't really a
limit to human creativity, right, So that's that piece that
that's really important. But I think what's especially important is
that when you start to want to do good with money,

(40:05):
so you're not conflicted around it anymore. You're not just
trying to take as much as you can, knowing that
you're doing harm and ignoring it and living with massive
cognitive dissonance, but you're actually genuinely doing something that is
good for life, good for people, good for nature, good
for community, good for us. Then you naturally start to

(40:30):
take the borders off your thinking. And somebody said it
to me really beautifully the other day, he said, it
becomes about what's possible for me to contribute rather than
how much can I earn or how much can I make.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
That's a whole different mindset that is really very positive.
You know, you're looking beyond your own existence into others.
And would you say this is the path of somebody
like Elon Musk who created these wonderful electric cars, although

(41:05):
they're not always wonderful, but somebody who has a greater
audience in mind.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
He's an interesting example. He has like there are very
few limits to his creativity and his ability to turn
that creativity into reality, and he does it beautifully. I
have starlink. I had starlink at my last house, and
I have a traveling starlink here and I'm just put
in the normal Australian what's called NB and National Broadband Network,

(41:41):
and it's compared like starlink is brilliant. Things don't go
wrong with it, and when they go wrong, they correct themselves.
And I'm back on the clunky system. It's like, oh
my god, what's happening. I just moved house. So he's
brilliant in that. I would say he would be surprised
by what's in my book. So I think there is

(42:04):
a love of exploration and all of that kind of
thing with him. But I think there's some stuff that
emerges that makes I'm curious about the sustainability. It's very
curious to see where he'll go, and it's very difficult
to so much noise around him, it's very difficult to
tell what's true. I think that he works at such

(42:28):
a pace that he probably doesn't really take care of
his own wellbeing, and I think there's probably a cost
to the well being of others. We know or I
hear that there is you know, there are children mining lithium.
I don't want to make it, you know, I don't
like to politicize those things because it doesn't help. But

(42:48):
I think that when we become more conscious of these things,
we start to try to create benign systems in every direction.
I think he does quite a lot of that. But
every single one of us, including me, like I'm on
them while I have my stylink and so I'm using
these products. We're all participating in that system that needs

(43:10):
so much more well being contributed to it, and I
think we all, we all have a responsibility to lead
in that space. So I think he's an extraordinary leader
in terms of creativity and making certain aspects of life
work better for us, and other people will attribute other pieces,
and we need all of them. We can't rely on
one person to have it all.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
I have the feeling that what you are delivering in
this work is a new a new obviously a new
way to look at money and resources, but also behaviors. Yeah,
and that's a huge problem is that we've been trained
how to behavior our money and it's not necessarily the

(43:54):
way to go, is it.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
It isn't, And we trained every single day. Every single
advert that you see is essentially trying to manipulate you,
first of all, usually in most examples, to feel inadequate
about who you are so that you'll go and buy
something to fill that gap. And the truth is that
there is nothing inadequate about who you are, and you

(44:18):
may want to buy some things to enjoy your life more.
That's a very different message. So at every level, we're
being trained all the time. We're being trained by AI,
we're being trained by social media platforms, we're being trained
by messaging all around us in an unhealthy relationship with money,

(44:39):
which translates into an unhealthy relationship with ourselves, and you know,
we are not inadequate, but we all want more of things.
We're here to evolve and grow. So when we turn
that around, it's a completely different formula, and it's a
different formula for doing business. It's a different formula for
marketing and communication in business. These are some of the

(45:02):
things that I've had to really work on because I
can't go out and just do that. I can't go
out and make people feel inadequate now so they buy
my course. It's just it's just downright unethical.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Exactly. Talk a little bit about what money has to
say about debt, because I was just totally taken by
the whole idea of how to deal with debt. Talk
a little bit about that.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, it's really useful actually to recognize that when somebody
lends you some money, they're lending you some energy. They've
actually created that piece of wealth with their own energy,
and they're giving the power of that energy to you.
And so, first of all, I think it's really important
to respect that. Don't take it for granted, but respect

(45:58):
it really important. Money very much emphasizes it's not debt
is not wrong. It's useful in some circumstances, I think
not very many, but we need it sometimes. It's really
important if you take on debt to make sure that
you're able to pay it back. Otherwise, take a gift,
like if you don't think you can pay it back,
see if you can turn it into a gift, because

(46:20):
otherwise you're lying to yourself and you're lying to the
other person. Well, let's get honesty in our relationships money.
And then in terms of paying debt off, which where
a lot of people get so stuck and they get
so negative about the debts that they put all this
negative energy around it which makes it difficult to pay off.
If you simply take responsibility like I've created it. I've

(46:41):
borrowed this energy from somebody else, and I need to
make that right. And then it's just like the way
we make money. When you're when you're able to engage
with money and ask for it and create pathways to
receive it. You know, income streams, business, a job, whatever

(47:02):
it is. Be open to that and appreciate it. And
then some of that you allocate to paying off your debt,
some of you some you allocate to your life expenses,
some you allocate to saving. There are lots of programs
that help you with that. But when you start to
just take responsibility and recognize it's a fact, borrow this

(47:23):
energy from somebody, need to pay it back, want to
pay it back, and then you can get on with it,
and it changes the whole dynamic. And I've seen people
do that. I've seen people get amazing results with debt.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly
with my guest today, Sarah McCrumb discussing her new book,
Love Money, Money Loves You. Will be right back. My

(48:39):
guest today is Sarah maccrumb. She has written a book
on money called Love Money, Money Loves You. This is
a look at the vibration, the actual energy behind manifesting
money and money's goal which is to allow you to
be as prosperous as you want. I mean, I can

(49:01):
see like a mortgage where you're happy, you've got a
new house and you're painted off, and smaller debts, but
critical debts, like college debt is so heavy and overwhelming.
My cousin went to medical school. He was two hundred
thousand dollars in debt, and he's still not out from
under it, even there has been ten years since he graduated.

(49:22):
So how do we how do we not make that
negative because it it becomes a crutch.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yes, and this is where we need we really ultimately
need to redesign our systems. It's not right that our doctors,
who people rely on for their health are straddled with
that level of debt. Can you imagine if we had
a society without any doctors. I mean, I can imagine
a society with a lot of healers and that's wonderful,

(49:50):
But so we're not there yet. We need our doctors.
It's so we have a bad system there, I would say.
But given that that's what we have, we have to
do all with it. I mean, it is the same principle.
The only thing I can say, really, and what my
book says all the way through is if you relax
and if you enjoy money, it flows more easily. So

(50:13):
even if you have landed with a lot of debt,
being tense about it and worried about it, it's not
going to help you because when you're tense and worried,
you close you contract. You actually cracked and closed down
from the energy of money, from the flow of money
and the flow of solutions, the flow of creativity, and

(50:33):
you have more and more stress, and the more stress
you have, the less energy you have. You get tired.
So it's a it's a it's a black hole really,
So even if you have a lot of debt. The
first instruction for money is to relax. And the second
instruction for money is to enjoy, just enjoy your life

(50:54):
because you're more open. And the third instruction for money
is to love it. Love money, Money loves you. Relax,
enjoy love. They're very powerful commands really, or prompts from
the energy of money, how to shift your relationship with it.
And I think of it, it's just like a partner.

(51:15):
If you're constantly worried and stressed about your relationship, you
can have an awful relationship. If you relax and enjoy
your relationship, you have a much better chance of having
a good one.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
There's a quote in your book that says money is
like the yin and yang of existence. Is what is
how you put it? And I read that and to
my mind it felt like this is an embodiment, this
is part of being human when we incarnate this energy

(51:51):
of money is here for us to facilitate our existence.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yes, beautifully put you're you're so right. It's an energy
in a way, it serves us, and interestingly, we also
serve it. Money gets energy from us receiving what we want.
It gets energy from fulfilling our wishes. There's there's a
beautiful collaborative circulation of energy there. And in terms of

(52:20):
the yin and yang, so you've got a kind of
yin and yang there. Even you've got us as very
material beings, and then you've got the energy of money,
which is very let's say, more yin, and the material
is more yang. But also money doesn't work well as
an over masculine masculinized as an over yang energy or
as an over yin. If it's all love and soft

(52:43):
and ever expanding and unlimited and formless, we can't do
much with it. But when we bring clarity, the clarity
of our desires and our our achieved the things we
want to achieve, we bring that along with this in
a loving abundance and generosity, and we bring those together

(53:05):
and then we can direct them. That's very powerful.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
What do you see or what do you get from
your communications with money? On what the future looks like
if it's going to be easier to acquire and manifest money,
how is that? What does that look like?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
It's more ephemeral in a way, we will manifest more directly,
which what that means is that we actually become more
conscious beings, we become better people, because if you're in
a very negative state, it's difficult to manifest anything accept

(53:46):
more negativity. And so there's a discipline that comes in
as you learn about money. There's a discipline around how
you behave in your own life, because you begin to
realize how powerful you are, and so your entire manifestation
kind of inner apparatus, you're inner technology becomes much more sophisticated.
And what I see, I mean I already see in

(54:08):
my life the way some of the business relationships that
I have manifested. There is no possible way in the world,
in normal business, that I could have been introduced to
those very precise people without meeting hundreds of other people
that I never had to meet. I just meet the
one right person here and here and bring them together

(54:29):
to be able to do things. And it's extraordinary because
no money can buy the right person. Money can pay
the right person but to find them and that they've
got that right spirit and alignment. That's a really different thing,
and that doesn't come from job searches, and oh I

(54:49):
know somebody who that comes like it really comes from manifestation.
And it's so beautiful to experience that. So many things
now because I do have a mission, if you like,
I'm very purpose centered, so many things get supplied to
me in order for me to be able to do

(55:10):
what I'm doing. And I know that the energy of
money is always working in the in the hidden realms,
it's always there working behind me and helping.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Is it that service related work and businesses are a
priority for money because it gives other people opportunity or
is it just the individual and their choices that helps.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Both money flows on lines of energy and enjoyment and
appreciation these kinds of things. If you go a long
way with an extractive relationship with money, that the joy
goes out of it. Just there's no joy in the
end in being either a slave in a corporate machine

(55:56):
or running a corporate machine that is just trying to
extract as much as possible for the wealth of a
very few people. It's very fun for a while, but
there comes a point where the energy turns in on itself.
When we experience joy doing business, that's a very different
It's a very different experience when we have within us

(56:19):
the ability to be generous in business and not afraid
all the time of losing. It's so different. So there
isn't money's actually oriented automatically towards service. But it is,
like everything, it evolves too. So I would say we
are in a period of evolution from this over masculinized,

(56:44):
very yang relationship with money to a more balanced relationship
that is more respectful of life and of well being.
Do you see and we haven't it not assured? We
actually we have to step in to make sure that
that happens.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
So do you see people manifesting money easier or is
it more that society figures it out and there is
actual steps that lead to more abundance.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
It's both. It's both. You can't have one without the other.
Because if you can manifest more for yourself, you will
automatically go and manifest more for other people. You will contribute,
you have to. It's like that's inevitable. So that happens
at the same time as big a systems. I'm in

(57:36):
touch with lots of people who are building new systems
built on these principles as they become more prevalent. That
raises that it improves the lot of ordinary people because
they're in a system that supports their well being and
wealth as well so things. It so works both ways.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I see you as extremely unique, Sarah, very very unique,
a beacon for this new thinking. Do you see or
do you feel there's others like you out there that
are maybe in different industries or philosophies or whatever, kind
of also stroking this new energy.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yes, there are people, and there are people. I'm very outspoken,
if you like, and I'm happy to sit here and
talk with you and share weird and wacky stuff because
I've seen it. I've seen it every day. I don't
any longer have the fear that people will say, oh,
she's woo woo, because it's not wu wu. It's just
true and it's proven, you know, for me, it's proven,

(58:41):
and I see it in other people. I think there
are many people, There are many hidden people who actually
are really having all kinds of extraordinary experiences and knowing
and that all contributes to the general field. There are,
of course, other plenty of different forms of uniqueness on
this planet. And what I see is the more we

(59:02):
step into our uniqueness, like you do your thing, You're
so in your space doing your thing. It's you know
this interview. I can feel it with everything that you say.
You're doing your thing, and that's your uniqueness. The more
of us who do that, the more space it creates
for all of us actually to do that. And I
feel that one of the changes is that it's not

(59:24):
about the lonely hero anymore. It's not a Sarah waving
the flag for the energy of money or as somebody else,
some guy out there who's got the answer. Is that
our answers open it up for all of us to
be the solution.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah. I keep thinking of the Yugas, and I don't
know if you know anything about the Hindu Yugas. It's cyclic,
and we're coming out of this dark period called the
Cali Yoga. But the periods that proceed we're coming up
to are much more light, where we can manifest fest
easier and there is more satisfaction of being incarnated.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Well, think back, you know, think back to the nineties.
We barely were talking about this stuff then. Yeah, just
think from the moment really that the Secret Movie came out.
People can have whatever opinions they like about it, but
it changed our world because so many people for it.
Suddenly we were talking about manifestation and people were learning

(01:00:30):
it all over the world. What Abraham, Abraham Hicks. I
love the way that this disembodied being has a surname Abraham. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I think the husband and wife team that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
The woman.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
He came through the woman, through the curiosity of the man.
The man asked all the questions, she received all she
was the channel, but hugely influential in the world of manifestation.
So it's a topic now. So it's already getting easier.
I see it every single day people. I see people
literally one week they'll ask a question about something. A

(01:01:08):
week later they come back shining, saying, Sarah, it worked.
And I didn't tell them, you know, do this in
your business and do this and do this. I help
them shift their energy around something so that they could
do things better, and it works, and then they go
and you know, something else comes along and they try that.
So manifestation is so much easier than it was when
we were younger.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I glad to hear that. Yeah, I'm really glad to
hear that. In our closing minute or two, can you give,
without naming names, some examples of people who have been
using your tools and have had some success.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yes, Sometimes it's hard to choose because there are so
many examples crowded into my mind. Like literally, I have
actually this is this is very sweet and we'll see
how it works. I have a young woman at the
moment who's just doing her very first business, and she
decided before she started it that she was going to

(01:02:10):
have a love affair with money, and she got into
conversation with money, and she is now money's actually guiding
her on how to put this business together. Now I've
yet to see the results, but I know that if
she stays on the path and she's got some guidance
from me as well, she's finding a way. And Money

(01:02:34):
asked her to teach about money fondly off and about
having this love affair with money. It's so beautiful to
see that, So you know, at one end that's still
somewhat intangible, but it's changed her life because she's it
would be hard, I think she's quite shy, quite hard
for her to go out and put herself out there.
But she's doing it. Wow, because of this relationship with

(01:02:57):
money at the other end, you know, I've seen people
who've paid I had someone who paid off all her
student debt in a year. She never she thought she
was never going to pay it off in the rest
of her life. She paid it all off and saved
some money in the one year of doing a course
where she learned about money. And she was so you

(01:03:17):
know when she came and told us, you can see
the just you can see the relief and the happiness
and the like I did this. It's such an achievement.
I've seen somebody pay off hundreds of thousands of dollars
of debt and start investing, also in a year, and
I've seen people take longer. I've seen there was a

(01:03:39):
wonderful woman actually during COVID who was trying to raise
some investment for a business and everyone said, forget it,
COVID can't do anything. And she was learning about money,
real money, and she said, no, I don't think that's true.
And she went out and she raised a lot more.
She got a lot more interest than she needed. Even

(01:04:00):
so and everyone else in the course she was doing
the business kind of incubator. They were all stuck like
they couldn't they couldn't get it. So money listens to
us of that, and you know what, it really loves.
It doesn't like it when we have fantasies that are
really unreal, like oh, I want to live in a

(01:04:21):
palace on the ocean with a dream, the perfect handsome
you know whatever it body. Where we have these silly fantasies,
it doesn't that doesn't work very well. But when we
connect with something that we really would love to experience,
it listens to us. It's hearing every single bit. It's
riding every bit in that ledger. And our job is

(01:04:44):
to relax and enjoy and love and have some clarity
and say yes when it's offered to us. Make businesses,
provide service, you know, be a good human being simple
things that we're capable of doing. And it does the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
It sounds like we need to keep listening and listening
on a regular basis. It's so funny you keep saying that,
I'm thinking, there's little voices that are talking to you
and that could be money, Yes, that could well be yeah,
the book.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
That's right, that's right, that money, that energy of manifestation
of your desires, of your wishes, is talking to you
and listening to you and prodding you sometimes and guiding you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah, it's amazing. The books called Love Money, Money Loves You.
My guest today has been Sarah McCrumb talk about your coursework,
how people can learn more about the book. And I
think you have a channel or YouTube channel as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I have a YouTube channel which if you look up
my name you'll find it very easily. Sarah McCrumb. It's
really simple. The best place to start is with the book.
If you read the book, you get some gifts. You
can sign up for the gifts inside the book, which'll
give you a bit of experience of the energy of money.
I have a course for people who are reading the

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book or want to go deeper into the book, which is,
you know, a low cost course. I have a big
one year program that people can join if they want
to go really deep and really build true wealth in
their life. Everything's on my website, which is my name
Sarah McCrumb dot com. So it's quite straightforward.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
It is, and you. I really appreciate you providing a
direct approach to money. It's not like you have to
take a twelve step course and that for ten years
you need to go through the course, and then at
the end you figure out that you can use or
can't use money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
No, No, it just starts working very quickly, and we
all have our own pacing. I was probably one of
the slower ones. Funnily enough, some people are very fast,
get very quick results, some people more slowly. Doesn't really matter.
You probably know who you are already, and you know
but as long as you're sere, it works.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Does money have another book for you in the wings
waiting to come forth? Or what's the story there?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I have path written a children's book. It says in
the book that there's going to be a children's book,
and I've been a little bit unreceptive to that, probably
because I've been so busy. I wrote another book that's
called Wrestling with Freedom, which is actually really looking at
the dark side of money in the world and how
we face the really challenging parts of all of that
and kind of transmute that into power and freedom. So

(01:07:35):
it's beautiful. It's very different from the Money Book, but
it's actually tackling it's literally tackling some of those issues
around control and greed and the dark, the dark side
of it, and just like, how do we find freedom,
how do we find true creativity in the midst of

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all of that. So it's part of the same story.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Sarah, It's been a pleasure speaking with you, and I
appreciate you coming on the program. I think you have
a very interesting future. I want to have you come
back on at least in the next twelve maybe twenty months.
Is kind of follow up. Yeah, thank you, so thanks
appreciate it. I want to mention that the book is

(01:08:27):
written in short, little brief bursts of thought, and it
flows wonderfully. It really does. And if you're like me,
you don't have time to read. I got the audible
version and Sarah is a wonderful narrator. She's very easy
to listen to and ob sections flow into each other,

(01:08:47):
they really do. It's really easy to understand. And one
of the things that I am I find just remarkable
about this energy that calls itself money is the fact
that it's so simple. It's nothing like you know, writing
down and doing the detox on your problems with money.

(01:09:10):
It's more about relaxing, letting it come through, thinking about
what you want doing little tests where you ask for something,
you really want it, and you think about it and
you ruminate over it. And as you get you know,
these little successes you grow and you keep doing bigger
ones and bigger ones and bigger ones. I think it's great.

(01:09:31):
I think it's very very simple, and there's something very
wonderful about it. I don't I can't quite describe it yet,
but I think this is going to be something that
we begin to look at more seriously, because money is
a real problem for a lot of people. And you know,
I just love the fact that the theme is money

(01:09:52):
is unlimited, not only that that we can have as
much as we want, you can as much money as
you want. I don't know what that looks like. Each
of us have our own idea of having the resource
of money, and you know, some people, you know, I've
always thought that if you were a monk or in
the church, you don't really care about money. But the

(01:10:13):
truth of the matter, the truth of money is that
money allows you to do things. It's an access to resources.
You know, you can go places, you can do things,
you can have fun. And I think the whole idea
of this book is to make you understand that you're

(01:10:33):
here to have fun, to grow, to love people, to
love yourself, and to have a good incarnation. So I
really really like the book. I think you will too,
and it's available on Amazon. Love Money, Money, Loves You.
And by the way, and Sarah mentioned it very briefly.

(01:10:56):
Her videos are the same kind of relaxed, casual dialogue
on her take on money. She just flows with it
so elegantly that it's just easy to accept, easy to absorb.
And I think, although I haven't done a great deal
of practice yet, I think the lessons the work that

(01:11:20):
needs to be done to get the ultimate financial reward
is you know, it's a little bit of work, but
it's not bad at all so far from what I
can tell. So yeah, I hope you like that. That
was kind of fun. Hey, I want to mention we
have our brand new tour for Earth Ancients Destiny and

(01:11:44):
Earth Ancients Special Edition listeners. It's our Simmath Annual Grand
Egyptian Tour. It's going to be April twenty eighth through
May tenth, and it's wonderful because they have the new
museum that's opened this Grand in the Egyptian Museum. It's
just opened over a million artifacts. But what we're gonna
do is we're gonna see the megaliths. We're gonna see

(01:12:05):
the largest sculptures on the planet. We're gonna find out
what they're all about. We're also gonna engage with temples,
and we're gonna have all kinds of great people with us.
We're gonna have Muhammed Imbrahem. It looks like Armando May
will be with us. He's one of the stars people
that's on that team who's identifying these deep underground anomalies.

(01:12:30):
So for all the details, all the information, come out
and join us. Go to Earthacients dot com, forward slash
tours and check it out. It's gonna be fantastic. We're
filling up. We're only trying to take about twenty I
think we push it to twenty five max because we
all want to be in the same bus to hear
the different presenters as we're going to different places. It

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is a blast, And I want to also mention that
Earth Ancients goes really out of its way to make
sure these tours are reasonable. Most tours are around ten
to twelve grand and ours are about half about half
that much, but we pack it in twelve days of
real great exploration again. For more information go to Earth
Agents dot com, Forward Slash Tours. All right, that's it

(01:13:15):
for this program. I want to thank my guest today
Sarah mccron, coming to us from Australia. As always a
team of Gel Tour, Mark Foster and Face all our
video expert in Pakistan. You guys rock all right, take
care every well and we will talk to you next

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time

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
And