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Chapters
- (00:10) - - Skeptic becomes believer in paranormal
- (02:59) - - Contacting ETs through consciousness
- (06:04) - - Launching SparkTV.ai platform
- (08:49) - - Spark: Platform for spiritual artists
- (11:47) - - Whistleblowers and mainstream news
- (12:45) - - Responsibility for information and happiness
- (13:12) - - Conscious quantum hologram and UFO cover-up
- (14:16) - - Awakening path and joining team
- (14:37) - - First conference memory and background
- (17:14) - - Avoiding crowds and "people hangover"
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Mike (00:00):
I was a skeptical debunker of everything that I considered
(00:03):
paranormal, pseudoscience,conspiratorial. I was a diehard
atheist materialistreductionist, and I did not want
to live in a universe where anyof this stuff was real. I was a
card carrying member of MichaelScalar's Skeptic Society, and
our motto is extraordinaryclaims require extraordinary
evidence. And I had fellowskeptics who would say, oh, I
(00:25):
want to believe in God or aliensor consciousness or whatever,
but I just can't. There's notenough evidence.
And I would say, why do you wantto believe? I'm glad it's not
real. I don't wanna live in auniverse where any of this is
real.
Michael Scalar (00:40):
You're tuned in to Everything's Energy, the EE
Show. I'm Michael Scalar, andtoday, I'm sitting with Michael
Mazzol. And we are going to talkabout a brand new streaming
platform and then dive into somespiritual concepts constructs
and fun little conversation. ButI actually really just wanna
hear more about this spark.
Mike (00:59):
Yeah. So this is actually the first time that we are
publicly talking about thisever. We're gonna do our big
press announcement next week.
Michael Scalar (01:07):
Comes out in ten days, right? Like, goes live?
Mike (01:08):
We're going do a soft launch in ten days. So that'll
be sparktv.ai. It will be thefirst website. You guys should
go there now and sign up and beone of the first subscribers.
We're putting everything out forfree.
Or you can, you know
Michael Scalar (01:22):
So like paid ads or there's ads and if you want
to pay, there's no ads.
Mike (01:26):
Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So we kind of want to be the MTV
version of Gaia. So, you know, Icome from the UFO documentary
world and my passions areconsciousness, personal
transformation, weird ancienthistory, aliens, bigfoot.
We've got all of that stuff.We've also got some true crime,
(01:47):
some scripted and then stuffabout entrepreneurship, mindset,
positive thinking,manifestation, near death
experiences, science, theelectric universe. We've got
tons of great documentaries andoriginal stuff. You were
actually a guest last night onone of the new original shows
that we're doing, which iscalled Ancient Future with Adam
(02:09):
Apollo.
Michael Scalar (02:09):
Yeah. Great was conversation with him. And I was
thinking about ancient future.I'm like, that's such it's hard
to say because it kindaglitches. You're like ancient
and future.
So it's like they're startingancient and they're going into
the future, it's ancient future.Wait, wait, what's going on?
Mike (02:24):
Yeah, I suggested, I said, why don't we call it future
state? And he's like, nah, we'regoing to call it ancient future.
And I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah,that's pretty cool.
Michael Scalar (02:32):
Who you have Adam Apollo. Who else do you
have coming on to do, like, theconcept? Like, are you doing a
lot of original studio stufflike we did last night? Or is it
gonna be a lot of other stuffthat's filmed off-site? What's
the vision?
Mike (02:45):
So it's a total mix, right? So my co founder, Serena
Deasy, and I, we come from thedocumentary world. Yeah. So
we've done between us, I don'teven know how many films, but
she's an Emmy nominateddocumentary filmmaker. She's got
way more credits than me.
Michael Scalar (03:01):
She's so humble, I had no idea.
Mike (03:03):
It's funny. So I did a documentary called Close
Encounters of the Fifth Kindwith Doctor. Stephen Greer. It
came out in 2020. And In thatdocumentary, we teach you how to
initiate contact with ETs, whichis a big claim, right?
Michael Scalar (03:20):
I'm fascinated. I kind of like, how do phone
home to ETs to come home?
Mike (03:26):
So I will get to that, but the key is that everything is
consciousness, everything isenergy, and these super advanced
civilizations
Michael Scalar (03:33):
Guys, he just said everything's energy.
Mike (03:35):
I had to do the shameless plug. So the idea is these
civilizations are extremelyadvanced, not just
technologically but spiritually.If you look at my favorite book
of all time, Autobiography of aYogi by Yogananda, he talks
(03:56):
about these Hindu saints, theseyoga masters, these gurus in
India, and they had thesemagical powers. As develop your
consciousness, you couldlevitate or teleport or
dematerialize and rematerializeor communicate telepathically or
bilocate, which is when you'rein two places at once. Well,
what are UFOs doing?
(04:16):
They're levitating, they'reteleporting, they're
dematerializing andrematerializing, they're
bilocating, and they'recommunicating telepathically.
And actually you see the samething in the Catholic tradition.
I'm Italian, I was raisedCatholic, and you look at the
saints and the abilities startedto manifest as they purified
(04:36):
themselves spiritually. So it'suniversal concept. And so I
believe that these civilizationshave had millions of years
beyond us to developspiritually.
And so they have all developedthese abilities and now they're
manifesting technologically. Sotheir consciousness is totally
integrated into theirtechnology. And so as a result,
(05:04):
if you step out under the starswith a pure heart and without
fear and you can put out acoherent intention to make
contact, they will appear. Andwe've done this over and over
and over again. We have hundredsof thousands of people who have
tried this around the world.
Millions have tried it, buthundreds of thousands who have
(05:24):
actually published the photosand videos. It's absolutely
amazing.
Michael Scalar (05:27):
So you did a documentary on this?
Mike (05:29):
So I did a documentary.
Michael Scalar (05:30):
That's fascinating.
Mike (05:30):
It came out during the lockdown. We had to cancel our
premiere because it was thatfirst fifteen days to stop the
spread.
Michael Scalar (05:37):
Oh, God.
Mike (05:38):
And so Serena, Serena D. C, reality TV star, she's in
England during the lockdown withher husband and she watches it.
She's like, Oh, what a load ofcrap. Let's try it. So they go
outside and they try it and thisgiant silver object undulated
past them in the sky.
(05:59):
It wasn't fast. It kind ofslowly went over their heads and
then it disappeared. And theywere sitting there just their
lives totally transformed. Andthe next morning there was a
crop circle in the field next Soto her she's like oh that's it.
So she comes to LA and shetracks me down and she says okay
you're going to be my partner.
(06:20):
I want to do UFO stuff with you.I want to make 10 documentaries
in one year. And I said well whydon't you make one documentary?
You know it's like really hardto make one film so
Michael Scalar (06:29):
why don't
Mike (06:30):
you And start she could tell that I maybe thought she
was aiming too high. So she wentoff and she made 10
documentaries in one year andshe got nominated for an Emmy
for best documentary for thefirst one that she ever made. So
then I said, Okay, teach me yourways. And we became partners and
then she came to me and waslike, hey, we should start our
(06:51):
own streaming network. Andnormally, I'd be like, are you
crazy?
That's so ridiculous. We can'tdo that. But then I remembered
what I just told you about the10 documentaries in ten years
and how she did it. So I said,yeah, let's do it. And so we did
it, and it took us two years.
And now we're finally launchingon March 3.
Michael Scalar (07:13):
So on sparktv.ai? Sparktv.ai. So we're
gonna find this content thatyou're talking about?
Mike (07:19):
It's all this weird stuff. So you'll find my documentaries,
her documentaries, stuff fromJames Fox and other people in
the genre, as well as stuffabout meditation, yoga. We also
have a lot of true crime. Youknow, we're going a little
edgier, and then we've beenshooting a lot of original stuff
(07:39):
that we're You really excited
Michael Scalar (07:41):
said the MTV of are we gonna have some, like,
spiritual music videos?
Mike (07:45):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Michael Scalar (07:47):
It really is. I loved MTV because it just had a
lot of really cool music videos,and then they stopped that. I
was like, I've watched MTV sincethey got rid of the cool music
videos because you'd leave itplaying, you'd listen to music,
and then back then people wereso competitive in making great
music videos. Now we have AI, soit'll probably be mostly AI
content. But back in the day,the music videos were so cool,
(08:08):
and now you rarely see them.
Mike (08:10):
It's actually a great idea. There's this artist I
love, Queen Herbie. I don't knowif you heard of her, but she
does like she like raps aboutthis weird stuff that we're
into. You know, everything isenergy.
Michael Scalar (08:21):
You are close. Hey. Say that again. There's a
lot of great conscious artistscoming out too where like if you
listen to the intention of theirmusic, you're like, that is so
powerful between hip hop andelectronic music, R and B. I
feel like there's a whole it'svery niche.
I have to find it, and I reallyenjoy it when I do find it
because it's not mainstream.Obviously, mainstream music is
(08:42):
mainstream because you haveClear Channel just pushing them
out to get those billions ofinteractions. Maybe Spark can be
this platform for nichespiritual artists to come in and
be showcased.
Mike (08:57):
That is our intention. We work with a lot of distributors
and a lot of producers that wealready know, but we also want
to crowdsource a lot of stuffand offer a platform to the
amazing creators out there whoare doing beautiful stuff.
Started out in this field overten years ago, none of this
stuff was on YouTube, right? Youhad to go to conferences like
(09:19):
the one we're at now to meetpeople and to find talent and
meet your favorite authors andwhatever. But there's so much
more, so many more artists outthere who can't make it to these
beautiful events and who aren'tvisible.
So we're gonna provide a homefor the best content out there.
Michael Scalar (09:37):
That's really cool. So let's go into, like you
must have some sort of spiritualawakening at some point, just
UFO awakening. What brought youinto this? Why are you here at
Conscious Life? Why are youexcited to be here at Conscious
Life?
Mike (09:48):
Well, is it's my punishment in a way. And here's
what I mean by that. I actuallylove it. It's not a punishment
at all. But I was a skepticaldebunker of everything that I
considered paranormal,pseudoscience, conspiratorial.
I was a diehard atheist,materialist reductionist.
Michael Scalar (10:07):
Fascinating.
Mike (10:07):
And did not want to live in a universe where any of this
stuff was real.
Michael Scalar (10:11):
Fascinating.
Mike (10:12):
I had my I was a card carrying member of Michael
Shermer's Skeptic Society, andour motto is extraordinary
claims require extraordinaryevidence. And I had fellow
skeptics who would say, Oh, Iwant to believe in God or aliens
or consciousness or whatever,but I just can't. There's not
(10:32):
enough evidence. And I wouldsay, Why do you want to believe?
I'm glad it's not real.
I don't want to live in auniverse where any of this is
real. And then I got intodebating people because I
thought it was immoral foranyone to talk about this
pseudoscience stuff.
Michael Scalar (10:49):
That's so interesting.
Mike (10:50):
Oh, yeah.
Michael Scalar (10:52):
And I'll be sitting here now. That's very
interesting. Exactly. The storyis going somewhere. It's
fascinating.
Let's go.
Mike (10:57):
So I did not have the Road to Damascus moment. I didn't see
a UFO and have this lifechanging thing. It was way more
mundane than that. It was mehaving a lot of arguments with
people and looking for thestrongest arguments against my
position because I wanted to beright. It was so important that
I was right.
(11:17):
And then it was death by athousand cuts. And then finally
I had to accept that theextraordinary evidence I was
demanding was totally there andthat the skeptical debunkers who
I had idolized, who were myheroes, were actually cynical
bad actors. They were acting inbad faith and they were totally
(11:39):
misrepresenting the reality ofthe evidence. It's like people
say, Oh, couldn't you keep asecret as big as UFOs. There
would be whistleblowers.
Yeah, you're right. And thereare. There are hundreds of
whistleblowers. They held apress conference in Washington,
D. C.
In 2001. There's so muchevidence.
Michael Scalar (11:58):
Well, beyond mainstream news, purposely don't
put that on there. Mainstream isa different version. It's when
critical mass hits and whatyou're getting at.
Mike (12:08):
So finally, accepted I was wrong and I was so depressed
about it. Then I had to askmyself, Well, why? Why am I
depressed about this stuff beingreal? For me, the first thing I
accepted was telepathy andconsciousness and then it was
everything else. The answer thatcame to me was, Well, if this
(12:28):
stuff is real, I have to takeresponsibility not only for this
information but for my ownhappiness and my own well-being.
Because I actually was comfortedby the idea of living in a cold,
dead, impersonal universebecause then I'm just a victim
of circumstance and I'm notresponsible for anything.
Michael Scalar (12:47):
Comfortable in being a victim. That sounds
there's a lot of that going onin society.
Mike (12:51):
Shifting. Right. But if we're living in a conscious
quantum hologram that we are cocreating, well then I have to
participate in that and I haveto take responsibility for all
of that. And then also ifthere's a giant UFO cover up and
all this other stuff, well Ican't just keep that to myself.
Became, I felt, myresponsibility to participate in
(13:17):
this.
And at first it felt like apunishment, like, Oh, I'm being
punished for all my years ofskepticism and whatever. But now
I love it. Obviously I'veembraced incorporated these
things into my worldview in away that hasn't completely
deranged me, which I think is atrap for a lot of people who are
on this awakening path. Can beextremely destabilizing and
(13:39):
overwhelming. And then that's aturn off to people who would
join our team if we made it moreattractive to join our team.
So that's kind of how I ended uphere.
Michael Scalar (13:52):
Fascinating story. You were assimilated into
the woo woo crowd, or I like toremove one of the woos and just
call it woo. Yeah. Woo hoo.Yeah.
Mike (14:03):
And now I love it. I love being part of the freak show.
You know, Serena and I were justwalking around the expo and she
looked at me and said Wow,you're so at home here!
Michael Scalar (14:12):
And I said Yeah, yeah, it's the king of freaks!
Mike (14:18):
About you man? Were you always on the right side of all
this stuff?
Michael Scalar (14:24):
I don't think there's a right or a wrong side.
I was just telling someone, I'vebeen going to this conference
since I was a kid. Ironically,was called Whole Life Expo
originally. Remember being inthe basement and I had a Hansen
soda, and I was drinking andsome high hippie came up and was
like, can I try that? And I waslike, just kidding, I'm like,
okay.
And then someone saw what wasgoing on. He gave me the can
(14:44):
back and someone grabs the canfrom me and was like, I'm gonna
buy you a new soda. That was myfirst memory of this conference.
I was like five, eight, was somevery young age. But we've been
coming here for a long time.
I always found it fascinating. Igrew up with my mom, obviously,
one of the OGs of theconsciousness movement and
spirituality, transformingpeople's lives through education
(15:06):
going back before I was born,really. Nowadays, I kind of make
fun of it because I feelspiritual adolescents and the
new new agers, which is fine.You have to start somewhere. I
was that point at one point, andI kind of go like, is this
really my crowd?
But it really is because I stilllove crystals. I still love
(15:28):
consciousness. I lovespirituality. I don't have the
patience to be social becauseI'm a huge introvert.
Mike (15:34):
It's a challenge.
Michael Scalar (15:35):
This is easy. I get to sit with you here, and
they're outside. I don't have totalk to anyone except you. I can
focus. I'm great focusing withsmall groups of people, but when
I through the the the sea ofpeople down there, I'm like, oh.
Mike (15:47):
It's a lot there's a lot of squirrely energy out there.
And it's not just here. It'sanytime I'm I'm in crowds,
Michael Scalar (15:52):
like Well, they're selling psilocybin down
the hall, the smell of weedseverywhere. Yeah. I get I'm an
empath, so I'm, like, get acontact high walking around here
little bit. I'm like,
Mike (16:01):
oh, pretty. Same. I'm also an empath, but this is something
that I've recently been figuringout. I'll go to Whole Foods and
I'll walk out and I'll just beso agitated and in a rage and
I'm starting to realize oh thisisn't mine. This is just stuff
I'm picking up from otherpeople.
My whole life I just was dealingwith this it's like poor
(16:26):
energetic hygiene. It's like yougo outside, you get covered in
other people's energy, and thenyou identify with it, and you
think it's yours. It's
Michael Scalar (16:34):
Well, whole it's interesting because my sister
and I, like, I used to be partof the DJ community at
nightlife. So we'd go out and Iwould drink and I have a
hangover. Right? Natural processof going and partying. And then
I wasn't drinking and my sisterwere like, we're we're we're
gonna go out and go to theseparties because, you know, we
didn't have anything to do.
We're like, alright. Let's go.We haven't been out in a long
time. We we come back home,still be hungover, no drinking.
(16:56):
And it was because of the energythat we're we literally got a
people hangover because whenyou're around a lot of people
that are not in their body,other things can be in their
body.
So you're around it's not darkforces, so to speak, but the the
frequency frequency you'reyou're around is dragging your
energy. So you're resonatingreally high. And while I love
music and I love going to musicvenues where unfortunately,
(17:17):
there's a lot of people that area little bit over imbibed. Yeah.
And then I get a peoplehangover.
My sister gets a peoplehangover.
Mike (17:23):
I'm just like, oh my god. I've never even thought about
this concept, but I immediatelyrecognize this is something that
I've been experiencing. And it'swhy I avoid parties. Like, don't
really drink alcohol, and I justI avoid those situations.
Michael Scalar (17:37):
You're resonating. There's no
resonance. So I love the music,but if there weren't people
there, ironically though, youprobably wouldn't be there
because it's a social event. Aweird push and pull. I have nice
speakers in my house, and I'llput on some good music
sometimes.
It's not the same because at theend of the day, we really want
tribalism and community. It'sjust hard to find that tribe.
Mike (17:57):
This has gotta be with the right tribe. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
that's so interesting. Peoplehangover.
I think I'm gonna have one.
Michael Scalar (18:05):
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I was a skeptical debunker of everything that I considered
(00:03):
paranormal, pseudoscience,conspiratorial. I was a diehard
atheist materialistreductionist, and I did not want
to live in a universe where anyof this stuff was real. I was a
card carrying member of MichaelScalar's Skeptic Society, and
our motto is extraordinaryclaims require extraordinary
evidence. And I had fellowskeptics who would say, oh, I
(00:25):
want to believe in God or aliensor consciousness or whatever,
but I just can't. There's notenough evidence.
And I would say, why do you wantto believe? I'm glad it's not
real. I don't wanna live in auniverse where any of this is
real.
Michael Scalar (00:40):
You're tuned in to Everything's Energy, the EE
Show. I'm Michael Scalar, andtoday, I'm sitting with Michael
Mazzol. And we are going to talkabout a brand new streaming
platform and then dive into somespiritual concepts constructs
and fun little conversation. ButI actually really just wanna
hear more about this spark.
Mike (00:59):
Yeah. So this is actually the first time that we are
publicly talking about thisever. We're gonna do our big
press announcement next week.
Michael Scalar (01:07):
Comes out in ten days, right? Like, goes live?
Mike (01:08):
We're going do a soft launch in ten days. So that'll
be sparktv.ai. It will be thefirst website. You guys should
go there now and sign up and beone of the first subscribers.
We're putting everything out forfree.
Or you can, you know
Michael Scalar (01:22):
So like paid ads or there's ads and if you want
to pay, there's no ads.
Mike (01:26):
Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So we kind of want to be the MTV
version of Gaia. So, you know, Icome from the UFO documentary
world and my passions areconsciousness, personal
transformation, weird ancienthistory, aliens, bigfoot.
We've got all of that stuff.We've also got some true crime,
(01:47):
some scripted and then stuffabout entrepreneurship, mindset,
positive thinking,manifestation, near death
experiences, science, theelectric universe. We've got
tons of great documentaries andoriginal stuff. You were
actually a guest last night onone of the new original shows
that we're doing, which iscalled Ancient Future with Adam
(02:09):
Apollo.
Michael Scalar (02:09):
Yeah. Great was conversation with him. And I was
thinking about ancient future.I'm like, that's such it's hard
to say because it kindaglitches. You're like ancient
and future.
So it's like they're startingancient and they're going into
the future, it's ancient future.Wait, wait, what's going on?
Mike (02:24):
Yeah, I suggested, I said, why don't we call it future
state? And he's like, nah, we'regoing to call it ancient future.
And I'm like, oh, okay. Yeah,that's pretty cool.
Michael Scalar (02:32):
Who you have Adam Apollo. Who else do you
have coming on to do, like, theconcept? Like, are you doing a
lot of original studio stufflike we did last night? Or is it
gonna be a lot of other stuffthat's filmed off-site? What's
the vision?
Mike (02:45):
So it's a total mix, right? So my co founder, Serena
Deasy, and I, we come from thedocumentary world. Yeah. So
we've done between us, I don'teven know how many films, but
she's an Emmy nominateddocumentary filmmaker. She's got
way more credits than me.
Michael Scalar (03:01):
She's so humble, I had no idea.
Mike (03:03):
It's funny. So I did a documentary called Close
Encounters of the Fifth Kindwith Doctor. Stephen Greer. It
came out in 2020. And In thatdocumentary, we teach you how to
initiate contact with ETs, whichis a big claim, right?
Michael Scalar (03:20):
I'm fascinated. I kind of like, how do phone
home to ETs to come home?
Mike (03:26):
So I will get to that, but the key is that everything is
consciousness, everything isenergy, and these super advanced
civilizations
Michael Scalar (03:33):
Guys, he just said everything's energy.
Mike (03:35):
I had to do the shameless plug. So the idea is these
civilizations are extremelyadvanced, not just
technologically but spiritually.If you look at my favorite book
of all time, Autobiography of aYogi by Yogananda, he talks
(03:56):
about these Hindu saints, theseyoga masters, these gurus in
India, and they had thesemagical powers. As develop your
consciousness, you couldlevitate or teleport or
dematerialize and rematerializeor communicate telepathically or
bilocate, which is when you'rein two places at once. Well,
what are UFOs doing?
(04:16):
They're levitating, they'reteleporting, they're
dematerializing andrematerializing, they're
bilocating, and they'recommunicating telepathically.
And actually you see the samething in the Catholic tradition.
I'm Italian, I was raisedCatholic, and you look at the
saints and the abilities startedto manifest as they purified
(04:36):
themselves spiritually. So it'suniversal concept. And so I
believe that these civilizationshave had millions of years
beyond us to developspiritually.
And so they have all developedthese abilities and now they're
manifesting technologically. Sotheir consciousness is totally
integrated into theirtechnology. And so as a result,
(05:04):
if you step out under the starswith a pure heart and without
fear and you can put out acoherent intention to make
contact, they will appear. Andwe've done this over and over
and over again. We have hundredsof thousands of people who have
tried this around the world.
Millions have tried it, buthundreds of thousands who have
(05:24):
actually published the photosand videos. It's absolutely
amazing.
Michael Scalar (05:27):
So you did a documentary on this?
Mike (05:29):
So I did a documentary.
Michael Scalar (05:30):
That's fascinating.
Mike (05:30):
It came out during the lockdown. We had to cancel our
premiere because it was thatfirst fifteen days to stop the
spread.
Michael Scalar (05:37):
Oh, God.
Mike (05:38):
And so Serena, Serena D. C, reality TV star, she's in
England during the lockdown withher husband and she watches it.
She's like, Oh, what a load ofcrap. Let's try it. So they go
outside and they try it and thisgiant silver object undulated
past them in the sky.
(05:59):
It wasn't fast. It kind ofslowly went over their heads and
then it disappeared. And theywere sitting there just their
lives totally transformed. Andthe next morning there was a
crop circle in the field next Soto her she's like oh that's it.
So she comes to LA and shetracks me down and she says okay
you're going to be my partner.
(06:20):
I want to do UFO stuff with you.I want to make 10 documentaries
in one year. And I said well whydon't you make one documentary?
You know it's like really hardto make one film so
Michael Scalar (06:29):
why don't
Mike (06:30):
you And start she could tell that I maybe thought she
was aiming too high. So she wentoff and she made 10
documentaries in one year andshe got nominated for an Emmy
for best documentary for thefirst one that she ever made. So
then I said, Okay, teach me yourways. And we became partners and
then she came to me and waslike, hey, we should start our
(06:51):
own streaming network. Andnormally, I'd be like, are you
crazy?
That's so ridiculous. We can'tdo that. But then I remembered
what I just told you about the10 documentaries in ten years
and how she did it. So I said,yeah, let's do it. And so we did
it, and it took us two years.
And now we're finally launchingon March 3.
Michael Scalar (07:13):
So on sparktv.ai? Sparktv.ai. So we're
gonna find this content thatyou're talking about?
Mike (07:19):
It's all this weird stuff. So you'll find my documentaries,
her documentaries, stuff fromJames Fox and other people in
the genre, as well as stuffabout meditation, yoga. We also
have a lot of true crime. Youknow, we're going a little
edgier, and then we've beenshooting a lot of original stuff
(07:39):
that we're You really excited
Michael Scalar (07:41):
said the MTV of are we gonna have some, like,
spiritual music videos?
Mike (07:45):
Oh, that's a good idea.
Michael Scalar (07:47):
It really is. I loved MTV because it just had a
lot of really cool music videos,and then they stopped that. I
was like, I've watched MTV sincethey got rid of the cool music
videos because you'd leave itplaying, you'd listen to music,
and then back then people wereso competitive in making great
music videos. Now we have AI, soit'll probably be mostly AI
content. But back in the day,the music videos were so cool,
(08:08):
and now you rarely see them.
Mike (08:10):
It's actually a great idea. There's this artist I
love, Queen Herbie. I don't knowif you heard of her, but she
does like she like raps aboutthis weird stuff that we're
into. You know, everything isenergy.
Michael Scalar (08:21):
You are close. Hey. Say that again. There's a
lot of great conscious artistscoming out too where like if you
listen to the intention of theirmusic, you're like, that is so
powerful between hip hop andelectronic music, R and B. I
feel like there's a whole it'svery niche.
I have to find it, and I reallyenjoy it when I do find it
because it's not mainstream.Obviously, mainstream music is
(08:42):
mainstream because you haveClear Channel just pushing them
out to get those billions ofinteractions. Maybe Spark can be
this platform for nichespiritual artists to come in and
be showcased.
Mike (08:57):
That is our intention. We work with a lot of distributors
and a lot of producers that wealready know, but we also want
to crowdsource a lot of stuffand offer a platform to the
amazing creators out there whoare doing beautiful stuff.
Started out in this field overten years ago, none of this
stuff was on YouTube, right? Youhad to go to conferences like
(09:19):
the one we're at now to meetpeople and to find talent and
meet your favorite authors andwhatever. But there's so much
more, so many more artists outthere who can't make it to these
beautiful events and who aren'tvisible.
So we're gonna provide a homefor the best content out there.
Michael Scalar (09:37):
That's really cool. So let's go into, like you
must have some sort of spiritualawakening at some point, just
UFO awakening. What brought youinto this? Why are you here at
Conscious Life? Why are youexcited to be here at Conscious
Life?
Mike (09:48):
Well, is it's my punishment in a way. And here's
what I mean by that. I actuallylove it. It's not a punishment
at all. But I was a skepticaldebunker of everything that I
considered paranormal,pseudoscience, conspiratorial.
I was a diehard atheist,materialist reductionist.
Michael Scalar (10:07):
Fascinating.
Mike (10:07):
And did not want to live in a universe where any of this
stuff was real.
Michael Scalar (10:11):
Fascinating.
Mike (10:12):
I had my I was a card carrying member of Michael
Shermer's Skeptic Society, andour motto is extraordinary
claims require extraordinaryevidence. And I had fellow
skeptics who would say, Oh, Iwant to believe in God or aliens
or consciousness or whatever,but I just can't. There's not
(10:32):
enough evidence. And I wouldsay, Why do you want to believe?
I'm glad it's not real.
I don't want to live in auniverse where any of this is
real. And then I got intodebating people because I
thought it was immoral foranyone to talk about this
pseudoscience stuff.
Michael Scalar (10:49):
That's so interesting.
Mike (10:50):
Oh, yeah.
Michael Scalar (10:52):
And I'll be sitting here now. That's very
interesting. Exactly. The storyis going somewhere. It's
fascinating.
Let's go.
Mike (10:57):
So I did not have the Road to Damascus moment. I didn't see
a UFO and have this lifechanging thing. It was way more
mundane than that. It was mehaving a lot of arguments with
people and looking for thestrongest arguments against my
position because I wanted to beright. It was so important that
I was right.
(11:17):
And then it was death by athousand cuts. And then finally
I had to accept that theextraordinary evidence I was
demanding was totally there andthat the skeptical debunkers who
I had idolized, who were myheroes, were actually cynical
bad actors. They were acting inbad faith and they were totally
(11:39):
misrepresenting the reality ofthe evidence. It's like people
say, Oh, couldn't you keep asecret as big as UFOs. There
would be whistleblowers.
Yeah, you're right. And thereare. There are hundreds of
whistleblowers. They held apress conference in Washington,
D. C.
In 2001. There's so muchevidence.
Michael Scalar (11:58):
Well, beyond mainstream news, purposely don't
put that on there. Mainstream isa different version. It's when
critical mass hits and whatyou're getting at.
Mike (12:08):
So finally, accepted I was wrong and I was so depressed
about it. Then I had to askmyself, Well, why? Why am I
depressed about this stuff beingreal? For me, the first thing I
accepted was telepathy andconsciousness and then it was
everything else. The answer thatcame to me was, Well, if this
(12:28):
stuff is real, I have to takeresponsibility not only for this
information but for my ownhappiness and my own well-being.
Because I actually was comfortedby the idea of living in a cold,
dead, impersonal universebecause then I'm just a victim
of circumstance and I'm notresponsible for anything.
Michael Scalar (12:47):
Comfortable in being a victim. That sounds
there's a lot of that going onin society.
Mike (12:51):
Shifting. Right. But if we're living in a conscious
quantum hologram that we are cocreating, well then I have to
participate in that and I haveto take responsibility for all
of that. And then also ifthere's a giant UFO cover up and
all this other stuff, well Ican't just keep that to myself.
Became, I felt, myresponsibility to participate in
(13:17):
this.
And at first it felt like apunishment, like, Oh, I'm being
punished for all my years ofskepticism and whatever. But now
I love it. Obviously I'veembraced incorporated these
things into my worldview in away that hasn't completely
deranged me, which I think is atrap for a lot of people who are
on this awakening path. Can beextremely destabilizing and
(13:39):
overwhelming. And then that's aturn off to people who would
join our team if we made it moreattractive to join our team.
So that's kind of how I ended uphere.
Michael Scalar (13:52):
Fascinating story. You were assimilated into
the woo woo crowd, or I like toremove one of the woos and just
call it woo. Yeah. Woo hoo.Yeah.
Mike (14:03):
And now I love it. I love being part of the freak show.
You know, Serena and I were justwalking around the expo and she
looked at me and said Wow,you're so at home here!
Michael Scalar (14:12):
And I said Yeah, yeah, it's the king of freaks!
Mike (14:18):
About you man? Were you always on the right side of all
this stuff?
Michael Scalar (14:24):
I don't think there's a right or a wrong side.
I was just telling someone, I'vebeen going to this conference
since I was a kid. Ironically,was called Whole Life Expo
originally. Remember being inthe basement and I had a Hansen
soda, and I was drinking andsome high hippie came up and was
like, can I try that? And I waslike, just kidding, I'm like,
okay.
And then someone saw what wasgoing on. He gave me the can
(14:44):
back and someone grabs the canfrom me and was like, I'm gonna
buy you a new soda. That was myfirst memory of this conference.
I was like five, eight, was somevery young age. But we've been
coming here for a long time.
I always found it fascinating. Igrew up with my mom, obviously,
one of the OGs of theconsciousness movement and
spirituality, transformingpeople's lives through education
(15:06):
going back before I was born,really. Nowadays, I kind of make
fun of it because I feelspiritual adolescents and the
new new agers, which is fine.You have to start somewhere. I
was that point at one point, andI kind of go like, is this
really my crowd?
But it really is because I stilllove crystals. I still love
(15:28):
consciousness. I lovespirituality. I don't have the
patience to be social becauseI'm a huge introvert.
Mike (15:34):
It's a challenge.
Michael Scalar (15:35):
This is easy. I get to sit with you here, and
they're outside. I don't have totalk to anyone except you. I can
focus. I'm great focusing withsmall groups of people, but when
I through the the the sea ofpeople down there, I'm like, oh.
Mike (15:47):
It's a lot there's a lot of squirrely energy out there.
And it's not just here. It'sanytime I'm I'm in crowds,
Michael Scalar (15:52):
like Well, they're selling psilocybin down
the hall, the smell of weedseverywhere. Yeah. I get I'm an
empath, so I'm, like, get acontact high walking around here
little bit. I'm like,
Mike (16:01):
oh, pretty. Same. I'm also an empath, but this is something
that I've recently been figuringout. I'll go to Whole Foods and
I'll walk out and I'll just beso agitated and in a rage and
I'm starting to realize oh thisisn't mine. This is just stuff
I'm picking up from otherpeople.
My whole life I just was dealingwith this it's like poor
(16:26):
energetic hygiene. It's like yougo outside, you get covered in
other people's energy, and thenyou identify with it, and you
think it's yours. It's
Michael Scalar (16:34):
Well, whole it's interesting because my sister
and I, like, I used to be partof the DJ community at
nightlife. So we'd go out and Iwould drink and I have a
hangover. Right? Natural processof going and partying. And then
I wasn't drinking and my sisterwere like, we're we're we're
gonna go out and go to theseparties because, you know, we
didn't have anything to do.
We're like, alright. Let's go.We haven't been out in a long
time. We we come back home,still be hungover, no drinking.
(16:56):
And it was because of the energythat we're we literally got a
people hangover because whenyou're around a lot of people
that are not in their body,other things can be in their
body.
So you're around it's not darkforces, so to speak, but the the
frequency frequency you'reyou're around is dragging your
energy. So you're resonatingreally high. And while I love
music and I love going to musicvenues where unfortunately,
(17:17):
there's a lot of people that area little bit over imbibed. Yeah.
And then I get a peoplehangover.
My sister gets a peoplehangover.
Mike (17:23):
I'm just like, oh my god. I've never even thought about
this concept, but I immediatelyrecognize this is something that
I've been experiencing. And it'swhy I avoid parties. Like, don't
really drink alcohol, and I justI avoid those situations.
Michael Scalar (17:37):
You're resonating. There's no
resonance. So I love the music,but if there weren't people
there, ironically though, youprobably wouldn't be there
because it's a social event. Aweird push and pull. I have nice
speakers in my house, and I'llput on some good music
sometimes.
It's not the same because at theend of the day, we really want
tribalism and community. It'sjust hard to find that tribe.
Mike (17:57):
This has gotta be with the right tribe. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
that's so interesting. Peoplehangover.
I think I'm gonna have one.
Michael Scalar (18:05):
We're running out of time. So shameless
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