The Hollywood Insider Who Exposed the Vaccine Cover-Up | Del Matthew Bigtree | Everything's Energy Ep-37 - EEShow (Everything's Energy Show)

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Michael Scalar (00:00):
Alright. You're tuned in to the Everything's
Energy Show or the EE Show. I amsitting with an absolute legend
today. And YouTube, please don'tban me. If not, we'll figure
that out later.
The reason anti haxer became aterm if there was one guy, it
would be this guy. Ladies andgentlemen, tell Bigtree. Thank
you for joining me. Absolutely.You just gave a riveting speech.

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Hopefully, I have permission tochop it up and use some of this.

Del BigTree (00:26):
Please do.

It it was really amazing. And one of the fun
parts was in the beginning, mymom leans over and she says, you
know, you're delinquent mother.I did this all for the same
reason. We went through hellgrowing up because, we had to
sign all these religiousexemptions, all this stuff. I
didn't even know what was goingon.
I was like, I got a crazy momdoing these weird things, but
I'm proudly a purebod.

Yes. So am I. I had a crazy mom too. I did the same
thing without you know? And mymom I I love that, you know,
what's great about it, and it'simportant people that are on
this journey deciding to, youknow, not actually the kids who
are poor, whatever, spread themout, whatever they decide to do.
It's I really am, you know,fighting for choice. I'm not
trying to eradicate vaccinesfrom the planet. Everyone should

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have a choice and live theirlives the way they see fit. But
one of the things that I reallyappreciate about my mom was she
would take me to those moment.Like, there was a moment where I
was gonna go into high school,living homeschooled up until
high school.
And I wanted to go to publichigh school, and the principal
was like, you know, we don'tallow unvaccinated kids in here.
And my mom didn't do that alone.I was standing in the room when

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he said it. And I watched herhave that argument, and I
watched her say, well, you know,why? She's like, there's a, you
know, there's a religiousexemption here in Colorado, and
we intend to use it.
She's like, yeah. But none of mykids in this school are
unvaccinated.

I was just one of same ways. I knew with my mom
that same

same thing. And my mom just said, well, do vaccines
work? He's like, per se do.She's like, okay. Then if every
kid here has been vaccinated,what threat is my kid to Utah?
And he was like, I mean, say,alright. I guess that's a good
point. And, you know, and Iended up going to that school.
But I watched her have thosedebates. I watched her.
I wasn't like in I know I know,Sandra. I know your mom. She

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reminds me a lot of my mom, but,you know, we're lucky. And and
people, you know, we should notbe doing this behind closed
doors. We I'm not sure.
I didn't put my kids in Waldorfschool. I went to Waldorf. You
know? Right? But part of that's,like, protecting their
childhood, letting them have,you know, you know, a mystical
experience, which is true.
But also, what I really grapplewith right now is we're raising

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our kids essentially in wartime.We're under attack by the
pharmaceutical industry. We areunder attack. COVID was, you
know, I think it was a reallyIt's a more bomb. You know, a
nuclear bomb.
It's gonna go off again. They'renot gonna give up on trying to
control our bodies. And so yourkids are gonna be, you know,
they're gonna their teachers aregonna be talking to them about

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trans and, you know, that theirbodies aren't their bodies and
that their parents are crazy.You should be vaccinating. And
the state's passing laws tovaccinate your kids without you
being there.
The parental rights is justbeing, you know,

full is destroyed. There's it's clearly
destroyed. Everyone's gottaconform. You all need to do this
thing. This is how you shouldthink.
And when I grew up, it was veryindependent. Right? You were you
were go do art. Go run throughthe jungle. Go be a kid.
Go be a kid. And now it's youneed to do this to confront, and
it's ridiculous.

So I think we have to realize that's the world our
kids are living in. So we don't

really

get to just say, you know, I'm gonna protect them
and not tell them anythingthat's going on as much to be
age appropriate. But there'speople that may talk to them
when you're not around. Theyneed to be prepared

for that. So here's here's a great thing for,
parents, and I also I Ichallenges with this and wanting
to have a kid, I'm like, it'swar time. Do I want to have a
kid and I'm going to have tofight for So for the parents
who've already had a kid orthinking of having a kid, what
would be your advice to helpthem keep their sovereignty on a
genetic level?

Well, I mean, first of all, I would think if you're
going to have kids, I thinkthink about what state you're
going to live in. I think it'sreally important, you know,
you'll survive the first coupleyears, but as soon as they're in
a preschool or something, you'reto start running into this
issue. You know, the parentsthat are, you know, in
California, in New York, youknow, they'll say there's
nothing I can do. I have tovaccinate. And I just say this,

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I don't see a 20 foot wallaround the edges of California.
I don't don't see some big wallaround New York. You can move.
And, you know, I think peopletell themselves, like, they they
they they go, come on. Come on.And they go in back.
Say, hope it doesn't hurt mykid. But they and they tell
themselves that they felt likethey're you know, I do really
have a choice as though thatwill make up for it should their

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kid be injured. And I'm I've metthousands of parents of injured
children. There's not a damnthing you can tell yourself in
the world once that happens tosay, to make it all right. You
will realize I actually did havea choice.
I could have moved. I could havechanged jobs. I could have just
decided to raise my familysomewhere else. I really want to
impart on people. You have to dothat.

Yeah. The what if goes both ways, so they throw
the fear porn at you if youdon't do this negative outcome.
But you're actually reallyenlightening people. If you do
do this, there's a similaroutcome. Like, you might as well
roll the dice and not do it.
You don't have to play thatgame.

There's not. I mean, if you see my new film,
which I was just talking about,An Inconvenience Study, it's
free. You can watch it, onlineat inconveniencestudy.com. I
didn't do the study. A scientisttrying to prove me wrong did the
study, tried to prove to me thatvaccinated kids were healthier
Henry Ford Health.
At least that's my opinion ofwhy he did it. Otherwise, when

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he was telling me he was provaccine and didn't agree with
me, don't know why he really didthe study in a way 20,000 kids
and what you see are is theexact problem we have. We see
about fifty to sixty percentchronic disease, in America. And
this study showed that that youwere by 10 years old, if you
were vaccinated, you had a fiftyseven percent likelihood of

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having a permanent chronicdisease the rest of your life at
10 years old from vaccinatedcompared to the kids that were
unvaccinated. That rate was onlyseventeen percent.
So an astronomical difference.And so, you know, I didn't get
into the part of my PowerPoint.You're right. Is there some risk
to not vaccinating? Yeah.
There's a risk to, you know, arare death from We're

still here.

A rare death from polio. But if I showed you the
numbers, they're they'reridiculous. We're being taught
to personalize such a rare riskin the nineties in 1961, before
there was ever a measlesvaccine. If you go to the vital
statistics, which was theoriginal CDC, the death rate of
measles in America acrossAmerica, about one in five

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hundred thousand Americans dieevery year. Five hundred total
deaths per year from measles.
Now people will say, well, Imean, deaths matter too, Dell.
Those five hundred kids. I waslike, okay. Sure. I get that.
It's true. Right? But we have tocompare that to something. Yeah.
So you're telling me so fivehundred, I mean, that's one in
ten thousand.
That's a point zero zero zerosomething risk. And I would

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assume that those four or fivehundred, you know, was probably
also some adults, some sort ofimmune issues, some weakness
that made them vulnerable. Butwhat I would say is there's
studies you can look at havebeen done all around the world
where a person who has measlesas a kid is less likely to
develop certain cancers. There'sabout a thirty percent reduction

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in non Hodgkin's lymphoma if youhave needles as a kid. Now,
vaccine doesn't do this.
If you prime your immune systemby having needles, it saves
about thirty percent people,thirty percent reduction in non
Hodgkin's lymphoma. That's abouttwenty thousand people like a
year die from non Hodgkin'slymphoma in America alone. So I
just saved, you know, roughlysix thousand people just then by

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letting them get the measles.Wait, hold on a second. To
protect four or five hundredpeople, I'm letting six or seven
thousand die every year from adisease that this would protect
me from.
It gets worse. Ovarian cancercut in half. Fifty percent if a
woman has had measles and mumpswhen she was a kid. Fifty
percent reduction in ovariancancer. Heart disease.

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If you have had measles andmumps as a child, you reduce
heart disease and death bytwenty to thirty percent. That's
there's a million deaths everyyear from heart disease. I just
saved two hundred thousandpeople by letting you get
measles and mumps. So how wethis is what pharma doesn't want
you to know. Pharma wants you tothink I'm gonna be one of those
four hundred people that die,and they make you personalize

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it.
I'll put it like and let's say,like, well, mean, in I have a
reporter who say this to me allthe time. So, I mean, I get it's
a rare risk, but you are puttingyour kids at risk. And we know
that the vaccine protectsagainst measles. It's and I just
I make the same points I made toyou, but I could see the same
thing about being struck bylightning.

Right? I was thinking I can I can

I you if you're afraid of being and look? If if
you had every day, you could bestruck by lightning. You could
be struck by lightning. There'sa 100% reduction in lightning
strikes if you spend your entirelife inside. Stay in your house,
lock yourself in your house,you'll never be struck by
lightning.

Well, you know, what you're saying with those
metrics too is your your systemis like a muscle. You work out
that muscle. It's stronger. Themore you get sick, the more
resilient you get. So you'reactually you're creating that
bubble you remember the bubblekit thing?
Yeah. When he comes out of thebubble, all a sudden he's sick.
Yeah. It's because he built noresilience. Yeah.

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And that's the layman's way ofsaying because you just drop
metric on metric on metric ofexactly why you believe what

you do. And we know this. Science knows this. They
know this. They'resystematically making us weaker
as a species.
I mean, think about it.

Well, I mean, you know, the reason the reason
is easy. If you if you selldrugs, Right. And you wanna have
a lifetime client, you don'twant them to be healthy. You
don't want them to have animmune system. You want them to
keep coming back, spendingmoney, spending money.
There I mean, if I have to buy apill every month to take every
day, thirty pills a month tostay alive.

Right. And how many people you know take one pill,
man? It turns into two

because the side effects are

first pill. Well, well, nice thing you know, it's
just that giant pillbox is goingon. No.

You see the people, that that are sick, and
they never have one one pill,jar. It was a little orange
pill. It's at midnight likenine.

No one's taking one vitae cynical pill every Oh,

it's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible.

Jiggs, you owe me a Coke.

Yeah. So how how let's and I know there's a long
story here, but in a shortstory, how did you come to this
point where you became the antivaxxer act?

Well, I, I ended up I wanted to be a Hollywood
filmmaker. I went to Hollywoodthrough some crazy set of
circumstances. I backed my wayinto daytime talk. First job I
ever got was, being a producer,field producer for the Doctor.
Phil show.
That kind of took up. Friend gotme the gig. It was great. It got

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me out of waiting tables. Andthen a few years in, they
created the show called TheDoctors.
And I was right there on theBrown Floor. I was actually the
first person, that would go intosurgeries and shoot surgeries
with a video camera, trying tofigure out how to what would the
FCC allow? You know, it's aboutwhat could you show? I got to be
like, they're the guy, like,shooting it, you know? And then

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there was directors and producerall around, how are we gonna
make this work?
So I ended up, you know, workingthis medical talk show called
The Doctors. Like I told you,never vaccinated as a kid, never
went to a doctor. And my momwould call me and say, what are
you doing working on a medicaltalk show? You've never been to
a doctor in your life. I waslike, you know, mom, God's, I
think God's behind I feel likeI'm like a Trojan horse from

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here.
From within you, Convert. I'mmostly doing stories that are
challenging the medical system,talking about drugs that have
been recalled. Why how did theyget approved in the first place?
And there's just all sorts ofstories like that. And I ended
up being the highest ratedproducer of, like, the seven
producers on the show.
Probably because he wanted dothat. And reward. I mean, I
don't know. Maybe. But whiledoing that show, I I had done a

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very controversial, story.
The doctor in the middle of itwhile I was working out with
him, he was like, look, youprobably shouldn't have me
represent this story. I said,why? He said, well, if you look
me up online, a lot of people Ican consider it a quack. I was
like, what do you mean? He'slike, well, I'm one of these
doctors that believes thatvaccines cause autism.
It's like, oh, well, this storyhas nothing to do with that.
It's like, yeah, I know, but itmight undermine what we're

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trying. He's like, oh, leavethat to me. Don't worry about
it. And he's like, would youever cover that story?
I was like, you know, hard storyto do with the doctors, but you
know, look, if you're watchingit all the time, something big
happens, let me know. So hetipped me off a year later,
2015, he called me and said,remember you said if something
big happened on the vaccine orautism thing, I should let you
know. And he tipped me off as awhistleblower at the CDC named

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Doctor. William Thompson, whowas coming forward and saying
there were committing scientificfraud on the vaccine safety
studies. And, you know, I coulddo a three hour interview just
on that journey.
But I made that much. I ended upmaking a documentary about that
was a world called Vaxxed. Thatwas the end of my TV career. I
left the doctors told them

to that how viral is Vaxxed?

Vaxxed was so amazing. I mean, really, I had
I'd expected I was hoping forsome negative press In order to
get the story out is that weneed if we could get attacked,
you know, Last Temptation ofChrist, that'd be amazing. Let
me we did better than that. Wegot into the Tribeca Film
Festival. They were there wasall this sensationalism around

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people saying baby killers havegot a documentary.
It shouldn't be allowed here.Robert De Niro got in the
Knicks. It's his festival. Hesaid, I am screening this movie.
Screw all you.
I have a child with autism. Ibelieve it's connected. So it
was this huge, you know,concoctonous battle. And then
two days later, they stillkicked us out of the fester.
Even after Robert De Niro saidhe stood by it, and then that

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made headlines across the world.
It was probably the I mean, wewe got a call. The reason we got
screened, I got a call just togive you a sense that, that
happened on a Sunday. On Monday,I get a call from Angelica Film
Center in New York, and he'slike, look. You wanna screen
your film at Angelica Film at,see, the base art house in New

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York City. You wanna screen iton Friday?
I said, oh, jeez. We're notfilm's not done. I mean, we we
still had a month before we weresupposed to be screening at
Tribeca. Most people go into afestival with a pretty finished
film, but then you expect to getreviews and notes, and you make
some changes and maybe releasesix months later. I said, we're
not really ready.
I said, could you at least ifyou could give us a month, how

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about you do this? You know, theday we were supposed to screen
at Tribeca, we're screening atAngelica Film Center. He said,
Del, your film, Vaccine, is thebiggest media story in Hollywood
reporter in every media magazinearound the world is the biggest
story to know. Whether good orbad? He's like he's like, it's
the biggest story there is.

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And I have no idea if a film'sany good. I don't care. And I
don't know if that bad hype isgonna last for thirty days. What
I know is it exists now, and Ican sell out my theater because
of it, so I'm offering youFriday. And that's how it
started.
And so we, like, all hands ondeck, get everybody's names
right at the credits, find themusic in the spots that we're

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like, we're just crazy trying toget to last minute edits in and
race the film out so that wecould start screening on that
Friday. And sure enough, lyingdown the block, and we sold out
every theater we went to.

I bet that was, like, kind of the best segue of
your life, just that wholesensation of holy crap, I did
this and look. How did it feel,Anne?

You know, I'll be on it. Like, it's interesting
you said it exactly like thethat. There was a moment I was,
we were everywhere, every citywe were hearing, we knew baby
killer headlines. It was really,you know, awful. Yeah.
But it was Controversial price.You know, lined up with the
hells, this controversial film,but I was leaving LAX. I'd flown

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into home to see my wife and mykid. And, I was like getting on
to the 405 and I suddenly hadthis, like, I just like this
terrible fear overcome me thatthis ice cold, like black fluid.
It felt like started the top ofmy head, ran down my toes where
I was so scared.
I couldn't drive. I literallypulled off this side of 405 and

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cars were racing by. I'm likehyperventilating. I'm like,
geez, what is going on? And Ijust, I knew it was about no.
I knew it was about all thisstuff. I I just said, okay, Del,
like, all you did you're you'rea filmmaker. You interviewed
people that spoke their truth.You put them in front of a
camera. You edited it together.
It's emotional. You're good atthat. But all of these

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headlines, it's not you. Youdidn't that's God. That's
something bigger than this.
You're just a human being.You're just a vessel here. You
just made a movie. I had big dayand I calmed down. And like I
just got my breath back.
Like thirty days later, happensagain. Same ice cold black fluid
all the way down the tips of mytoes. I'm like, F is going on?
Yeah. Same thing.

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Talked myself off the ledge. Allyou are. You're a regular guy.
There's all the hype everywherewe were, everywhere we're going.
And, I was like, there's gottabe somewhere this is starting.
I'm I was like, I was a chillteenage dude. You know what I
mean? Wake up at eleven in themorning and, you know, I was
always, like, pretty relaxed.This is not obviously I'm having

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some form of a panic attack.Well, I was like, where's it
starting?
And then, I was, I was reading,just picked up a Bible in a
hotel, the Bikidians Bible once.Happened to just open it up. And
it was Jesus in the forty daysin the desert. And, you know,
Satan was telling him, you know,bring, you know, turn this stone
into bread and you can, youknow, take care of yourself.

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Could feed, you can drink, bringdown your angels, show your
power over You just open it you.
Yeah. Just open that up. That'sbeautiful. I thought that's
interesting. Or with you know,was like, okay.
Read it. And then, like, acouple days later, I had been in
a city. People would grab mewhen I get off the Vaxx bus. Can
you come talk to my senator? Canyou come talk to my congressman?
So I I would. And there's oneday I was really being hard on

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myself because I had anopportunity to talk to the
governor, but I was totallyexhausted that day. And I you
kinda gotta get revved up. Itwas the guy that kinda chickened
out. I didn't really make thecall and just laying in my bed
like, Del, you don't do this.
Who's gonna do it? I mean,you're letting everybody down.
You're the only one that canmake this call. You're the only
one can talk to governor. Youlet you know, you you you me me

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me.
I I I I and I was like, oh mygod. This is where it started.
This is where that fear isstarting because I'm saying I'm
doing it. That I'm doing allthis. That I have the power.
I'm the one that's, you know,making this big. I'm the one
that's gonna change the world.And it starts from an altruistic

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place. I should make this call.I should do more.
I don't. And who else is? Butslowly but surely that I ended
up making me feel all alonewhere I was all alone. There's
no God in that world. There'snothing bigger than me.
It's all me and who's going toprotect me. And then I would
just suddenly have a moment whenI'm so utterly alone and

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terrified. And from that momenton, I never allowed myself to
say I did this and I don'tbecause it's like a bad trip. If
I, if I smoke that drug of I'mdoing this, then I know I will
have a panic attack a few weeksfrom now because I have lost

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perspective that I think I'mdoing them. And as long as I
stay clear that I'm just avessel of regard and I think God
is behind the work that I'mdoing, I'll do whatever I'm has
to do next.
And whether we win, we lose,however this all turns out, that
is not what I'm doing. I'mobviously hoping for some great
ending, but the only thing I'mresponsible for is to do what

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I'm being asked to do at my verynext step. How it all turns out,
that's in Kazan.

Amen. So with all these congressmen,
governors, etcetera, did yourally some of God's angels to
your side? And how did thatlook?

How did that feel? I think as soon as you step into
the type of faith that factsbacks demanded, I had to call my
wife and said, I'm going todestroy my TV career. Like, I
don't know where the money'sgonna come from, but I'm
supposed to make this movie. Inthe moment I did that, I would
say I lost sight of my long termvision or enough producer. Like,

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I make films.
I I make television. I'm reallygood at predicting all that can
go wrong, what will go right. Sowe all do millions of dollars.

Right.

But I feel like I suddenly lost that long term
vision. I had a sense of what Iwant feeling of what I want to
accomplish, but I would just andI still do pray and meditation
everyday God. What's the nextstep? What's my new choice?
Because that's all that I coulddo.
And so I've stopped worryingabout whether I have angels. I

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stopped worrying about who elseis there. I can only be
responsible for myself. So,yeah, but I did meet angels. I
met a guy that thinks exactlylike that.
Robert Kennedy junior. I lovethat guy. And the guy who I
ended up, I said, you should runfor president. Was that you? You
ever was that?
That was, think if you askedhim, he would still say, it's
your fault. He, that's exactlywhat he says when he's having a

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bad day. This is your fault.This is your stupid idea. God
bless it.
Bless it. He I spent three yearsas his director of
communications when he did runfor president. I got to be in
the Oval Office when he put hishand on that Bible as HHS
secretary. But I've even morethan than the way I see it, he
he picks up that mantle everyday and just does the next right

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thing. And he's not I've said topeople, if he didn't get
confirmed as HHS secretary, he'dbe the same guy the next day.
You wouldn't be, like, kickingwalls with things. He genuinely
said, oh, no matter the when wehad some tragedies and crazy
things would happen, and westarted as Democrats, and we
moved into being independents.And, you know, and then he
joined Donald Trump. Oh, I mean,I can't tell you how lucky I

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felt to be in the room with aman like that trying to navigate
that. And and we all prayed,like, what are we supposed to do
here?
But, that guy just genuinelygets up in the morning. He's
like, I'm going to achieve asmuch as I can, and it's in God's
hands. And as long as it lasts,I'll do it. And whenever it
ends, it ends. And so we'vetalked about angels.

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Angels are those other peoplethat I think are not worrying
about their lives. They're notworrying about, you know, their
safety and not worrying abouthow this all turns out. There's
a lot of us now that are justputting one foot in front of the
other.

And I think, I think the world's changing
because no. I mean, you needpeople to provide hope and some
sort of pappam. The controversyis what breaks down those walls
in society. And people start togo have a moments and they go,
well, wait a minute. I mean,this side is saying I shouldn't
look over here, and this side issaying you should look here very

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loudly and clear.
Wait. Yeah. And then people sopeople stop listening to the
noise, and they start seeingwhat might be truth or what is
truth as opposed to seeing thosewalls. So I I thank you for
that. And where are things goingin politics right now with the
topic at hand?
Well,

I mean, I think Bobby's been the most successful
HHS secretary in my lifetime. Iwould argue he's done more in
the last year. I mean, really,it's been about a year. He only
got confirmed in February. It'snow April.
So it's been just over a reallysolid year. That guy has gotten
chemicals out of baby food and,you know, heavy metals out of

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baby food investigations. Yougot the president investigating
microplastics there. They justannounced they're going to look
at psychedelics as far as, youknow, PSD. PHD, cellular
depression.
I mean, these are gigantic,gigantic change, change the
entire food pyramid. Yeah. Islooking at changing all the

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school lunch programs. He evenreduced the vaccine program from
56 shots down to 20, four,twenty six shots by switching us
of the Denmark schedule. Butthat has been undone by a
lawsuit against him by AmericanAcademy of Pediatrics.
So he's in the fight of hislife. What I would say is, look,
whatever he accomplishes is morethan we would have accomplished

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without him being there.Government should not be
determining our health. Not theright place.

It's our body. Our body. My body, my choice. My
body, my But

they want the government to dictate it. I say
we should mostly be looking athim as just sort of a pause
button, holding back thecensorship, holding back the
attacks. We need to build newsystems. We need to build them
now that are not reliant. Sowhat would be a

societal call to action? Because Bobby's one guy.
He was doing his best. Societyout there, what can they do on
the grassroots level, a day today level? What can anyone do
that?
What would you recommend?

Tell everyone they know exactly what you just said.
Do you believe your body, yourchoice? Do you believe that the
government owns your body or doyou own your body? Do you
believe the government owns yourchildren or do you own your
children? And if they're like,yeah, no, I own my kids, then do
you want to be forcibly injectedwith products the government
decides for you?

(25:44):
Or would you like to have achoice? And I would even we have
a tool that COVID gave usbecause I know how controversial
this topic can get. And, youknow, I'm always looking for a
way in in conversation. Be like,I can't talk about this topic at
all. Well, ask or miss, are youhitting the tent, Kilohub
Worcester, Sean?
Really like, I know. Most

You know, I I still got COVID after the fifth
one.

That's right. Stop. Nine out of ten people, by the
way, I'm just going on thestats, nine out of ten people
are not getting the latestbooster. Oh, I wonder why. You
know?
So you pretty good chance ofasking the question. So are
getting the the latest booster?No, man. I think I'm done with
it. I'm done with that.
But it's recommended. Right?Like, you it's recommended that
you get it. Yeah. I know, but Ifeel like I've had enough.
Interesting. What would youthink if Donald Trump mandated

(26:29):
that next booster shot? Wouldyou get it then? I'll screw you,
but not no. You're like, so youfeel like that should be a
choice of yours?
Of course

it should be. Yeah. Trip him up a little.

Yeah. You see where we're at in this conversation
now? I'll leave the rest to be.Figure out

basically inspiring a little critical
thinking and Yeah. Attacking

I saw a great, I saw a great reporter, a
different topic, but I saw agreat reporter at, an anti ice
March. She, she went in and someguys like, you don't, We want
you out here, like, you know,getting pretty violent. Right.
And and she's like, well, we'relike he's like, did this one is
is for this anti ice protest?She's like, oh, so I see you on
the sidewalk.
It's like, yeah. You could well,we'd probably be further away.

(27:10):
Said, no. But but there's aborder. You have a border here.
What you're saying is a border.Like, I you want me to so you
get the lawn, you get yourpeople get the lawn, and my
people stay on the side. Wasthat what you're saying? Yes.
And he's like she's like, why isyour lip fluttered?
What's going on? It's that typeof argument. Right? Let's let's
be realistic here. Everybodywants choice.
If you can get through all thenoise in their head, they will

(27:34):
realize they stand for the samethings too. We've gotta get
better at this. We've gotta notattack. Don't bludgeon your
friend with a ton of statue. Andhow many people don't you know?

You you know? You need to do it in a nice way.
Do it

in nice way. Ask a question that they're gonna have
trouble answering.

You'd be very polite. You'd be you'd be very
responsive and understandingwhile at the same time be like,
have you thought about it thisway? Like Right. Because you
attack them, they're just gonnaattack you back. Let's say,
under fistfights only ended inmore punches being thrown.
Shit. So what what's next on thehorizon for you? I know you're
always working on something.

I'm building a new like, I've, you know, still got
ICANN. We're still suing thegovernment. We were we're we've
got some really important casesthat we think are gonna end up
going to the Supreme Court,which will start really having
being able to turn the screws ona national level. We're really
excited about that. But I feellike HighWire is pointing out
the problem, injuries fromvaccines, all the drugs that are

(28:30):
poisoning us.
We do great work with theHighWire, but I want to be
involved in seditions now. Spentten years making everyone know
you shouldn't really be trustingyour medical system, your
doctors, but where you go. SoI'm building a new hub called
Wisdom, W I S D M, about yourinnate wisdom. And it's focused

(28:50):
on holistic health. How do Ilive a holistic life?
It's really for people that arejust starting to ask the right
questions. You know, I wantpeople to be able to say like, I
don't, I, what, I don't know.What is chiropractor? What is
acupuncture? What is AR beta?
What is an EES? I mean, youknow, they don't tell me it
either. Doesn't mean right.

What's the medicine frequency?

What is frequency? What is all that? Oh, you should
go to wisdom. And what we wantto do is we're going to have
videos, beautiful videos, whichis what I do, that explain to
you what these differentmodalities are. You can then go
on a journey.
There'll be podcasts you canfind about that exact topic. And
then inside of that, we'rebuilding a directory for find a

(29:31):
chiropractor near you, find aninnovator near you, find, you
know, an energy, you know,system.

Are you working with Sarah and Bobby on this?
Cause I've heard of a similarproject kind of. This is ours.
Okay. One of our tech guys isworking on something to kind of
help validate the alternativeside because we are in an
industry in Altria that has alot of snake oil.
Totally. I mean, not to say thatpharmaceutical doesn't have a
lot of snake oil as well. Wholeworld has a lot of snake oil. So

(29:58):
we're trying to come up withways to validate everything
really. Because at the end theday, we want metrics.
We want does this work? Whetherit's ten years of testimonials
that are real and not bought andpaid for, or videos of people
literally getting well in realtime, or we're actually coming
at what's called vibe, which isa thousand different metrics off
a wearable, we'll be able tosee, different energy. So we're

(30:19):
actually working on tools intandem with what what you might
maybe we can collab a little.

Totally. That's what it's all about. Yeah. We
wanna we wanna space. Look,there's the problem.
Like, we're really very specificon holistic health. Like,
there's peptides. We're debatingwhether a peptide is actually
holistic. I'm not sure. Right?
You know, it there's andfunctional and functional
medicine. And will that bethere? These are the debates
we're having because there'salways ways pharma wants to come

(30:44):
back and tell you

They are trying to come back and get other
peptides.

Is natural. We're going to have blah, blah, blah.
I joke. Was it

of MDMA by Pfizer and psilocybin by
vodernizine?

Exactly. And then it'll be chemicalized. But
really there's modalities wherepeople need to touch you still.
They need to feel you, know, andthey're not injecting with
anything. They're not alteringyour DNA.
They're not, you know, I mean,all of those things have a
place, but

you said it's really well in there is where
we're doing so much damage earlythat we're now having to catch
up on back end. That's it. We,we need society to come back to
a more of a grassroots, anatural way of living early so
that we don't get sick later.Know, throwing a bunch of poison
at a kid is definitely not gonnamake them live a healthier life.

We're all the biting diseases we're causing to
ourselves. Yeah, absolutely. Andwe can stop that process. So I
want to get back to nature.What's natural?
I think we can all livehealthier lives and look, pharma
has its place. I dismacked thetree, you know, with my ribs two
months ago and went to an ER andbroke four ribs. I was glad

(31:47):
there was an Advil for the firsttwo days. The other otherwise,
they wouldn't have been able tobreathe.

Yeah. No. They're You're time and the
place for all medicines, butthey shouldn't be a lifetime.
Yeah. They're a fits and Ithey're a crutch for a short
period of time.
Yes. You don't walk with acrutch the whole life.

Right. Yeah. Oh, and call that healthy. Like, you
you did the pharma I don't thinkthey've gotten away with it yet,
but they keep wanting to say theword healthy should not exclude
people that are on drugs.

That there's people living perfectly healthy
lives that take drugs every day.I said, I disagree. I disagree.
I also disagree. No one's everbeen drugged to health.
Yeah.

Ever. So luckily there's a lot more and more
people every day waking up toall of these things, but you
know, what do we need to do? Youknow, Bobby's only one guy.
Yeah. We need to move.
You're only one guy. I'm onlyone guy. And frankly, like I get
all passion up there because I'mlooking at a 100 people, looking
at 500 people in a room. I wantthem to go out and tell everyone

(32:43):
they know because we're stillnot big enough yet. We're
getting fledged.

It's much bigger than it was ten years ago when
we were growing up as kids. Wewere that point zero zero zero.

That's it. We were tiny. And now 30% of the world
rejected the COVID vaccine.That's all you need, by the way,
change every political system.It's 30% passionate people
speaking their truth.
We're really there. They're justafraid to speak. Mhmm. And I
think that that's the mostimportant thing, especially as
Americans. Exercise yourrighteousness, weaves.

(33:16):
Tell everyone you know that youwant choice, that our buck date,
my buck boy choice in everysingle circumstance. And, That's
a beautiful call to action thereis you

never be afraid to speak your mind, even if you
might be attacked for it. Justrealize that it's better to
like, in in instance, if someonewas about to attack you from
behind, would you rather thatperson yell you're about to be
hit in the back of the head?It's the same situation. It goes
it is it's it's circular there.

Yeah.

Speak your mind. That person might it might take
them a year. It might might takethem a day or that very moment,
but they might have a shift inperspective.

When I screen the film An Incommune Study and at
the center of it, this scientistdecides not to publish his
study. And it's a very powerfulfilm. It's a powerful moment
when he admits it. When hereally says, I'm not a good
person. I'm not going do it.
Well, it comes down

to finances. Yeah. Comes down

to fear. Really, he states he's afraid of his legacy
changing. And I and I'll say toan audience, you know, how many
people would say that doctorZurbos is evil? And he usually
sends papers around. Raise orpeace.
I was like, oh, because here andI you know, knockout has to
drill down and paper blockbecause, I mean, he has that
finished save children's rooms,and he's not doing it. He's he's

(34:31):
burying this understanding. AndI say, okay. Raise your hands if
you never avoided talking aboutthe COVID vaccine at the
Thanksgiving dinner. You knew itwas dangerous.
You wanted to talk to a brotheror sister or mother or father or
friend, but you're like, I don'twanna create unrassy here. I
don't wanna have a I don't wannahave a battle. Raise your hand
you never did that. No oneraises their hand. We're all a

(34:54):
part of this.
Yeah. We're all complicit. Oursign our silence is means we're
complicit. If you don't stopsomeone from killing someone and
you could, you're an accomplice.So our fear to speak is why
we're in trouble, and it's whypeople are being injured.

(35:16):
Mhmm. It's why today I said, ifyou do not realize this is your
issue. It's sort of the famouspoem, right, from Nazi Germany.
Forget the guy that wrote it,but, you know, when they when
they came for the Russians, theydidn't say anything because I
wasn't Russian. When they camefor the gays, I wasn't gay, so I
didn't say anything.

My, my favorite is, what evil prevails, good man
and

That's the simplest one. But when they came for me,
there was no one left to standfor me. So I'm the opposite. We
don't wanna

be the last one standing. No.

And I don't wanna die a coward.

Abs I mean, that's the biggest thing is I
ref I refuse to give away mysovereignty. And if I can speak
truth, I'll speak truth. I wasvery blatant. It's just like, I
don't believe in that. Yep.
Because it's I I'm not gonna sithere and regurgitate what you
believe to make you feel better.I'm gonna say, well, I I you
could argue that a little.

Let's have a day. Yeah. Let's have some fun. Yeah.
Let me hear your perspective.
By the way, you know, listen tothe person you debate here.
Like, I actually care about whatthey're saying. I'm fascinated
by people. Yeah. Not necessarilywhen I'm fascinated that you're
getting a temp booster, really.
Like, have you not seen any? I'mjust curious. How do you feel?
How do feel?

Did you get COVID any time?

I'm curious.

I'm genuinely I am curious. Like, how many times
did you

Anyway, you gotta get back to the nation that can
have those conversations. Yeah.I mean So it's on us. Right?
We're winning.
We're healthier. We've becomebetter. So be kind. Be humble,
but start having

We need to remove the lies of the sand.
Open up open Discord. We need totalk more, and we need to not
worry about left, right, vaxx,anti vaxx. We're just going
beyond its just discussing.That's it.
Yeah. Well, Dow, I I appreciateyou having this conversation. I
don't wanna take you more time.I know you're a busy man. I
absolutely love and adore you.

(37:09):
Thank you Appreciate so you. Andhopefully, you'll come to Vegas
and we can do some more stuff.Let's do that. Yeah.

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