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Sacha (00:00):
How do we define the true
art of war in the middle of that
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chaos? It comes down to puretruth and right action in the
living moment, activates thearmor of God, and you can walk
as Daniel through the lion'sden. But you must conduct right
action, and if that means notfilling out forms and battling
with technocracy and taking onthe devil through judicial
commissions and inquiry and allthe other goodly work that we've
done, your mom's been very muchinvolved in that. That's where
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the armor of God actually reallymatters.
Michael Scalar (00:28):
You're tuned in
to the Everything's Energy Show.
I'm Michael Scalar, and today Iam live from the Conscious Life
Expo twenty twenty six with anabsolute legend. So stay seated,
lock everything in, turn thevolume up. I have Sacha Stone
Sacha. So I wanted to have aconversation with you about
navigating modern time spiritualwarfare.
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Tools that we can use to bothidentify when you're at effect
and tools you can do tosafeguard yourself, whether
that's simply walking away. Inmartial arts, they say the best,
attack is the seven minute mile.One way or another though, I
feel like we get dragged into aspiritual warfare whether we we
can run or we can't. What areyour thoughts on that topic?
Sacha (01:11):
I would agree it is a
spiritual war or battle, but the
thing that I've come to learn inmy middling age is that it is
not so much a war with anythingoutside there. It's always, in a
sense, a war with the unresolvedaspects of self. And I know
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enough about the quantum realmand about the hyperdimensional
physics, so to speak, to knowthat this is can be proven out
forensically. We manufacture thegods that devour us. We
manufacture the wars, thesystemic poisoning of the planet
or the planet that that we'reon, the existence that we're on.
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We are the ones who are invokingand conjuring into the field all
there is. So if we are seriousabout the business of of battle
and of war and of remedy and ofseeking resolution, then we
really have to find thatresolution within ourselves and
know that we are the progenitorsof whatever manifests out there.
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So that's what what I've arrivedat, and I know because I've
been, as you know, Michael, I'vebeen on that front line
Michael Scalar (02:21):
for I know. A
long time. You brought my mom
into the IT and J, which I thinkwas brilliant. Yeah. Literally
addressing some of the the cabalactions that they try to hide,
but never make it intomainstream news.
So you actually brought it toforefront. That's right. So I
applaud you for that.
Sacha (02:35):
Thank you.
Michael Scalar (02:35):
It's a huge
action. But you're you're right.
A lot of the times, we have tostart within on everything that
we do. Whether we wanna be inlove with someone, we have to
start within love ourself tolove another. So you're you're
saying really that we we shouldwe remove ourselves from these
wars?
Sacha (02:48):
So that's a great
question. It's not so much about
it's rather like the questionof, you know, should we escape
the matrix? There is no escapefrom the matrix other than a
perfect collapsing into thenesting, into the fractal
geometry of the living moment.So finding the still point in
the living moment is the onlyexit strategy from the matrix.
You can't find the escape outthere.
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That's part of the greatdialectic, the illusion of the
paradox. It can't be out there.In the same way that one cannot
attain a state of bodhisattva,of enlightenment after death, if
Michael Scalar (03:21):
you follow the
light at the end of
Sacha (03:22):
the tunnel back into
another reincarnation cycle. You
have to allow yourself tocollapse into the void, so to
speak, into the still point, andthen only have a question, a
perennial question, which is howdo I want to play in this
universe? How do I want todance? How do I want to enact,
embody, and manifest patterns ofperfection in this realm or in
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any realm for that matter? Thatbecomes the alchemy of the
living witness, the testament ofthe I am.
Michael Scalar (03:48):
I agree. Those
are really profound statements.
You know, find the stillnesswithin you. It's it's I don't
wanna say you ignore the wararound you, but it's really from
we have a short life on thisplanet, and the more stillness,
the more love, the more harmonywe can find in ourself. That
does hundredth monkey out andspread to the people around you.
Yes. Back to the topic though,we're all out of fact from
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everything around us, and Iagree. I try to find my
stillness every day, and that'spart of the reason why I don't
really leave my house
Sacha (04:15):
because the moment that
you
Michael Scalar (04:17):
go out into the
public, someone's trying to
propagate something at you. Whatare some of the tools that you
use to find stillness? Let'sstart there.
Sacha (04:24):
Pure truth and right
action in the living moment,
whatever that moment may be.Mhmm. And you could be in the
middle of a chaos storm. Mhmm.You could be in the middle of a
a war zone.
I grew up
Michael Scalar (04:33):
in a war zone,
in a
Sacha (04:34):
war in Africa. You know,
it doesn't really matter what
explicitly or externally theconditions are. Pure truth and
right action. The pure truth bitis really important. That's
purely objective, universaltruth that exists outside of the
egoic idea of truth.
A Buddhist believes that theirway is the way. A fundamentalist
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Muslim could be a very goodhuman believe that that's the
way and that's the path. Andthat's the problem. When we
subscribe to any third partyintervention outside of
ourselves, we abnegate ourdivine conscience, and we ab
abdicate our throne of sovereignexpression, and we we then take
the knee and render coin untoCaesar. And then we begin to
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believe in the out there, andcall it Yahweh, or call it
whatever, start to worship itidolatry, false light adulation,
false light worship.
And the most of humanity havebeen, to be sure, possibly
99.999%, have been in endlesscycles of rebirth and
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reincarnation, connected to thatsame phenomenon of of looking at
something outside of actualizedself as being the path. No, the
path can only ultimately be animmanent one. And the immanent
path requires a return toinnocence, which is to wake up
uncontaminated and see the worldthrough the eyes of a child,
which is to say, to bear witnessin this world but not to judge.
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That's difficult, but that isalso art of war in the highest
expression, is to to seeabsolutely what self exists,
self reveals, and self fulfillswithout judging it, and without
trying to manipulate or engineerit. The I am is a state of
grace, which is the the ultimatestate of war with false light,
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with the matrix, is to be inthat state of imminent grace.
Because only in that state canyour ideas be made manifest, and
you can anchor patterns ofperfection into this world,
including, up to and includingending war and come back like
that, and conflict like that.But haven't we all seen that?
How in relationships we can gofor years, even decades,
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believing in a grievance againstsomeone, and then you meet them,
and you can break that grievancein a quantum instant, be
completely rekindled andreconnected. So that moment of
absolution of forgiveness is themoment of transcendence and
transmutation. And if we all andbut that's where the of pure
truth exists, because pure truthinsists on remedy.
It insists it insists on thepath of least resistance to the
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highest outcome in which thereis never any battle outside of
self. But I understand thatthat's a kind of philosophical
perspective, but it's actuallythe mechanics of reality as
well. And that's the bit thatwe're going to have to get to
grips with as a civilizationright now, is that each of us
have the power. Once werelinquish the notion that
government or religiosity or anyforce outside the self is here
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for for to redeem us or to orfor salvation. No.
Categorically not. The secondcoming is about the return of
the imminent christic and sophicwisdom within each of us in the
living moment. And then we cango forth and prosper. I'm
certainly doing that.
Michael Scalar (07:44):
Yeah. No.
Absolutely. I mean, the 10
commandments, beware falseidols, it seems we're surrounded
more by false idols every singleday with Correct. People trying
to propagate any narrative andevery narrative and paying for
that narrative.
Yeah. And and Christ actuallysaid anything I can do, you can
do better. Yes. So we weactually really do need to
embody that Christ consciousnesswhere we are the second coming
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of Christ, not a guru or a falseprophet, but each individual
person.
Sacha (08:10):
Exactly right. And it it
is so it couldn't be simpler.
But again, we talk about, youknow, externalizing ideas and
totems, crucifixes and mandalasand mantras and Money. And all
of that. Well, it is all,essentially.
It's the same thing as a totemoutside of self. But true living
cross, the one that each of usshould bear as the living cross,
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again, is the flame of puretruth and right action in the
living moment. And that conveneseverything into here and now.
And I'm able to absolve andremedy any situation, psycho
emotionally, psycho spiritually,psycho intellectually. I can
literally absolve anygargantuan, labyrinthine,
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Gordian knot.
I can let it let it go. Andthat's power. True power. So
let's give listeners takeawaybecause I'd
Michael Scalar (09:00):
love to give
them the the some of the tools.
What you just said is soprofound. How do we actually how
does an average person get tothat point where they can take
absolute garbage and churn itinto poof as you, to speak? I
mean,
Sacha (09:14):
if you're if you're if
you're a Christian, then be a
good Christian.
Michael Scalar (09:17):
Mhmm.
Sacha (09:17):
And and and understand
that, again, see the world
through the eyes of a child as areturn to innocence. And a
return to innocence is a returnto immanence, which is the
activation of that inner flame.You know, at practical level,
one has to also understand thatthe business of rendering coin
to Caesar is about how youregister your babies at birth,
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and how you register yourtractor and your farm animals to
the state or to the crown. Sothat's a sacrifice of innocence.
That's Canaanite ritualismtotemistically, and we do it all
the time.
So billions of times a day, thethe false light transactions
that humans are caught up in areliterally abdicating the the
divine kingdom and and renderingit unto Cronus, the crown, the
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the titan that devours its ownyoung. Surprise, surprise that
that cascades down into Epsteinfiles in 2026, where endemic
ritual satanic abuse andpedophilia have been the
cornerstone of our psychocivilizational wheel. That's why
it's all coming to pass rightnow. That's called revelation.
That's the grace of God.
That is emanence, the return ofemanence.
Michael Scalar (10:21):
Do you think
we'll bring it home to the kind
of current topic of Epstein.What do you think is gonna
happen with that?
Sacha (10:29):
Well, I think that the
the I'd be more interested to
know about the redacted files.Absolutely. Two and a half
million files that are not beingreleased. And one imagines that
in that, we've got a direct lineto, you know, we go back to
Enkin and Lil, Cain and Abel, wego back to off world agendas and
the most malevolent nonterrestrial intelligences that
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have hitherto been driving thetemporal, certainly temporal
political and financialnarrative has been orchestrated.
Essentially, a creature fromJekyll Island, you know, my
beloved friend, G.
Edward Griffin, who's making asurprise appearance on the
screen in an hour or so, I mean,in my talk, He outed that a long
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time ago. But the Khazarianmafia that are controlling the
entirety of planetary wealth andtransactions through global
banking, And global banking isglobal government. So every
government or should I sayprivately owned corporation
masquerading as a government outthere are the the asset base and
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the collateral behind theglobalist agenda. So the Central
Bank of Rwanda, the Central Bankof Botswana, the Central Bank of
Ecuador, Central Bank of, youknow, US Treasury, they are all
the asset base. And what is thecollateral that those central
banks are holding?
The very papers that offer upwhen you register your tractor
or your baby, those become theregistrations of land and the
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titling. All of that stuff issecuritized. The securitization
and collateralization of humanwill, human time and motion, our
life force, good humans, that'scalled sacrificial harvest of
humanity. So at a monetarylevel, every time we pay taxes
or fill out a form with blockblack capital letters, we are
paying into the kingdom of thedevil. We are performing
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Saturnian ritualistic magic, andit's dressed up as normalcy.
That's what's terrifying aboutit. But that's why we have a war
economy, a blood economy. That'swhat allows a Khazarian mafiosi
to emerge and a SabbateanBabylonian priesthood to emerge
in recent centuries, and to takecomplete thrall over humanity
and control not just thetransactions and the monetary
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flow, but the hyperdimensionalsurveillance that comes from
extraterrestrials keyed into theSabbatian basement, the Vatican,
the Pentagon, and and the NSA,and then the MOSAD, and the CIA,
and and so on and so forth, m Ifive, m I six. All of these, all
of this satanic apparatus isdirectly connected through
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Vaticanus into thehyperdimensional realms. So when
you have and that's what put itthis way.
2018, I was financing andconducting the judicial
commission of inquiry inWestminster, London into
pedophilia and ritual,sacrificial, you know, abuse and
all the rest of it. We'd outedthat stuff. Robert David Steele
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and and and my crew, we outedall of that stuff, including
Pizzagate and the Epstein filesat that time. That was eight
years ago. Almost nine
Michael Scalar (13:37):
years ago.
Doesn't seem like that long ago,
Sacha (13:38):
but it was was a long
time ago. But now, I'm saying,
my function has always been tosee around the corner, at least
seven years. And I'm saying now,that with the release this week
of The X Files, that is Trump'slatest
Michael Scalar (13:52):
Trump's latest
distraction.
Sacha (13:53):
Throw the dog a bone,
which is great, terrific, But
that that, in tandem with whatis redacted and hidden in the
sequestered Epstein files, isconnected, I guarantee you, to
off world intelligences, andmajestic 12, and so on and so
forth. And how, since theinception of this particular
evil, which was connected toOppenheimer and Einstein,
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triggering the splitting of theatom, atomic bombs going off
Michael Scalar (14:17):
Signal into
space.
Sacha (14:18):
Well, it it has a
hyperdimensional flare that was
set out. And that was apermission being granted to
very, very low frequencyneighbors in the galactic plane
to now come into the temporalrealm and seriously fuck with
us, which they did. Yeah. And sothe modern deep state and
satanic Canaanite ritualisticcivilizational basement that's
being earth unearthed throughthe Epstein files is a testament
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to that travesty and thatcalamity. So we have to remedy
that.
We have to heal that time loopcivilizationally. So how do we
do it in a in a world which isan orchestra of chaos? Cause
right now, it's moving fromchaos, exponential chaos, to
exponential chaos. And the yeah.Question And I think the
question you're asking verynobly is, how do we define the
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true art of war in the middle ofthat chaos?
And again, I will say it comesdown to pure truth and right
action in the living moment,activates the armor of God, and
you can walk as Daniel throughthe lion's den with the armor of
God. But you must conduct rightaction. And if that means, you
know, not filling out forms andbattling with technocracy and
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taking on the devil throughjudicial commissions of inquiry
and all the other goodly workthat we've done, your mom's been
very much involved in that,that's that's where the armor of
God actually really matters. ButI'll tell you this much. You
drop that armor of God for oneinstant, you'll catch a bullet.
Michael Scalar (15:39):
It seems like
that these days. They're just
kind of gunning for anyone that,like you or my mother, The the
truth seekers out there, they'retrying to way find ways to
infiltrate the the communities.They'll talk ill of you. They'll
spread lies. Yeah.
This deep stake of all tacticsof don't look at them. They're
bad people kind of thing. It'sit's constantly like that.
Unfortunately. We we've all gonethrough it and that's really the
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thing too is is not cowering tothe propaganda.
Just stand in your truth as yousay. Yes. Because at the at the
end of the day, it doesn'tmatter what lies someone says
about you. No. It matters whatpeople believe.
Sacha (16:15):
Well, it matters to them
what they believe, it certainly
doesn't matter to me. I mean, Iwould also argue, and I get into
kind of some psycho intellectualgymnastics here, and I
appreciate that not everyoneagrees with this. But I do
believe we're also moving intoan age that needs to evolve
beyond belief, beyond hope, andbeyond faith, and beyond trust.
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So that
Michael Scalar (16:36):
What does that
look like?
Sacha (16:37):
It looks like pure
ownership of one's own
existence. It looks like itlooks like fully infusing
oneself with the spirit of thedivine and and no longer seeking
counsel or permission outside ofself. And if we all did that all
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at the same time, that would, bydefinition, be the morphogenetic
shift point that would takehumanity in a quantum flash into
the spiral of ascension. Andwe're on that precipice in any
event. All the work that we'revariously doing in biomedical,
you know, vanguard research anddisclosure and truthing and, you
know, all of this stuff, we'reall peering through the veil,
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the Hermes veil.
We're all seeking to breach thatveil that has sequestered us
from divinity, you know, allconnected to the fall from grace
and and and the trial ofseparation, which describes the
human condition. But the fact ofthe matter is that that's not
going, that alchemy will not bebrought to bear through a
priesthood outside of self. Itmust be a reckoning with the
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relationship that you have withself. Each of us have to so what
it looks like is a return totrue relationship with self,
which is the I am, which is Ichose to steer myself, my aspect
of soul into this temporal realmat this time. And I chose to do
so for a very good reason.
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So I have a fated line, but Idon't need to conform to the
fated line. The fated line isalways it's kind of set for you.
The car crash at the age of 72,you know, or whatever is going
to, you know, kill you. That isa fated line. But we have divine
will and the capacity in thistemporal realm to elevate that
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so called timeline out of thefated line into a destined one
that we of our choosing.
This is the new elixir. This iswhat humanity will be waking up
to in the next few short years,once we rekindle convention with
the galactic intelligences. AndI'm talking about the benevolent
aspects of our cosmogenesis,because that's visiting us now.
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And the files that have beenredacted and sequestered in the
Epstein files connected to theMOSAT and to CIA Pentagon going
back to Majestic 12 and all ofthat stuff, all of that stuff is
going to be released also to thelight. Again, by through the
grace of God and revelation.
This is the time, because it'sthe end of time. Time being
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TikTok, scarcity economics,scarcity ecology, believing that
we're running out of life force,running out of food, running out
of oil, running out of oxygen.That was a program interposed by
Cronus, the titan that devoursits own young. Again, Yahweh,
false gods, that we manufacturedthrough abnegating our
sovereignty over millions andmillions of years in cycles.
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That's ending now.
So we're now on the precipice ofan upshift, a monumental epochal
upshift that will see us notonly return to innocence and
imminence, but also into I wouldloosely refer to the immortal
existence, becausefoundationally the human
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biology, as your mother willattest, is designed to live for
a thousand years and beyond. Andultimately, if we want to move
beyond this plane of existence,we should be activating Merkaba,
which is a well knownhyperdimensional technological
capability that we have encodedinto the mRNA and the DNA of the
human being, the actualizedhuman being, the Christed human
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being, the Sophic human being isthe one that awakens within the
dream and remembers the imminentdivine template that self
exists, self reveals, and selffulfills behind every action,
every word that that that weundertake. So it is all
ultimately not a return to selfin the Luciferian sense of, you
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know, my my way or the highway.A return to self is an explicit
and implicit understanding thatthy will be done is my will be
done if I'm standing in puretruth. And write out.
Michael Scalar (20:52):
You're an
absolute freaking wordsmith, my
friend. I absolutely love theway you talk.
Sacha (20:57):
I hope some of it makes
sense.
Michael Scalar (20:58):
No. I mean, I
follow it completely. I agree. I
hope everyone in the chats leavea comment for how eloquent this
gentleman is and how wellspoken, how educated. I've never
really met many people that havesuch a way of saying things, but
conveying such a strong message.
So I really, really applaud youwith that. I think we're running
up on time here. We got aboutfour minutes. So I want you you
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said something really reallyintriguing and I think this is
fun to dive into. You kind ofsaid we're on a we're born with
a trajectory of dying at 72,which I found fascinating.
But then you shifted it andsaid, but if you choose to, you
can change your destiny. Yes.Can you elaborate?
Sacha (21:35):
Yes. Well, again, this is
the anchoring of the
hyperdimensional physics to thetemporal plane. As we move now
into the end of time, an erathat was contained by the matrix
of time, we're literallybreaking that up. Whether you
know it or not, billions ofsouls on earth in their woken
state and sleep state areactually dismantling and
breaking up the fiction of timeof Cronus. And so we will find
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that between the year I'mtalking about the calendric
year, February and 2046, reallythat passage in the next seven
years, it'll really key off in away that every human being on
earth will understand theirimminent nature, that we are the
galactic hybrid.
Number one, understanding thatthe Alpha Centaurus and the
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Andromedon and Acturian andPleiadian and Sirion and Orion
and all these different elementsthat make up the human genome,
we are the galactic genome. Weare incredibly special. We have
been told, and to a greatextent, mind fucked into
believing that we are a filthy,dirty, little scavenger race
that defiles the planet and thatdeserves to be sequestered into
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inner city complexes and smartcities and controlled by a
technology called government.But that's a modern phenomenon.
Actually, we come from a greatgolden age.
Go back to the Mahabharata, goback to the mystical traditions
of any of the monotheisticfaiths, have become completely
defiled in the modern context.And you will see that where we
come from, absolute greatness.But apparently, we chose at the
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collective level to fall into agreat sleep. Certainly, that was
a thirteen thousand year cyclefrom the great deluge of the
Noetic era of Noah, thirteenthousand years ago. That was a
semi arc underpass of the grandprocession of the equinox.
That's all it was. It was agalactic sleep semi ark. And now
we've broken through theecliptic of that circle into the
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galactic day now. We've brokenthrough to the age of Aquarius
from the Piscean age, and withit comes the remembrance of what
we left behind when we took tookthe descent. So to those of us
who are operating on frequency xand above, heart and psionic
frequency above, we will be nowremembering our immanence
because it's encoded in thephotonic band of light that
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we're literally traversing atthe galactic level.
Our solar system, our planet isswinging through the the this
photon band at this time. That'swhat the dawn of Aquarius is all
about. But it's ahyperdimensional physics
reality. So that new physics isanchoring into this plane. If
you and I are in a state ofimminent knowing and being, when
our knowing and our being becomethe same quanta, we are
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literally in a state of grace orserendipity.
And that means that we willbecome increasingly
exponentially infused with thisnew so called light coding, and
I don't like that language. Butthat's actually exactly what it
is. It's a new light coding.
Michael Scalar (24:24):
It's it's hard
to describe things that are
multi dimensional. Yeah. Sosometimes we have to use small
words like God instead of the
Sacha (24:30):
coming? How how about the
second coming?
Michael Scalar (24:33):
The second
coming of humanity. Yes. Yes.
Sacha (24:35):
Yeah. Which is the
emergence of the Christ, the
opening of the Christ Christ atheart in all of us.
Michael Scalar (24:40):
Yeah.
Sacha (24:40):
Well, I say all of us.
Those who have chosen to take a
left fork in the road and havebeen led purely by addictions
and appetites into entropy,well, they'll end up as space
dust and inhabit some otherplane of existence on a lower
frequency bandwidth, and that'sfine. There's no judgment there.
But the point is that Tara,Earth, this plane of existence,
has declared absolutely timeout, literally time out. Time is
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gone.
It doesn't exist any longer. Itwe're only living in the echo of
the shadow of time. Now, itceased to be on the 12/20/2020,
which corresponded with the yearof lockdown, incidentally. If
anyone understands anythingabout the long count Sultan, the
2012 phenomenon, about time wavezero, Ted Terrence McKenna, all
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and of ancient prophecy, it allcascaded down to 12/20/2020. And
that was a shift point.
Time technically ended then, aswe understand it. But again,
we're still living at the at thelevel of the gestalt. We're
still living in this in the inthe in the of it's kind of like
a shock wave, an inverse shockwave. So time still exists for
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some people, but as you and youand you and I start to awaken to
the fact that wishing each otherhappy birthday, happy
anniversary is a ritual satanicrite. We're literally repeating
the idea of entropy in our inour blood.
So every time we calculate yearson a Gregorian satanic calendar,
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and look at the clock and see itticking, and oh my god, we're
running out of time. I'm oneyear old, I'm one closer to the
grave. If we believe thatsufficiently at the collective
level, that becomes the manifestreality. That is quantum
science, and we understandenough about quantum mathematics
apparently to realize that weshould move beyond programming
death into our DNA bycelebrating fucking birthdays.
Michael Scalar (26:34):
That's
fascinating what you just said
because there's a scarcity eventthat occurs. Money Yes. Air as
you were saying. And you justcircled right into something
that I've never heard ofAnnoying Brain, but it's
fascinating. When we're onTikTok, we're running out of
time.
Sacha (26:48):
You almost are
programming death into a DNA.
Time. Correct. It's fascinating.Yes.
Yeah. And when enough of usrecognize that foundational flaw
in the gestalt and we surrenderourselves in going to zero point
time, again, still point.
Michael Scalar (27:03):
Time is now.
Sacha (27:04):
Yes. Time must be an
imminent now. And when enough of
us are doing that at the sametime, that same time of
timelessness, then we activatethe recursion of the wheel.
It'll move in the otherdirection, which is a return to
imminence and to immortality.Because that's codified into
Nature, as we understand naturetoday, is caught up in Fibonacci
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ratios and golden meanprinciples.
Mathematically, entropy isdesigned, is programmed into
that. There is an escape fromthat, crystal spiral dynamics.
There's a new mathematics that'semerging beyond golden ratio and
phi and Planck constant and allthe rest of it.
Michael Scalar (27:43):
Okay. It'll be
enlighten enlighten me and the
crowd on that. I know we we'rerunning out of time. Let's you
got two minutes.
Sacha (27:50):
To move beyond time is to
move beyond mathematics and
collapse all Mathematics is anempirical language which issues
out of the cry into the void totry to self reflect and make
sense of the reflection of self.That's how mathematics emerged
Mhmm. In in in in the void, soto speak. So this plane of
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existence is predicated onmathematics, but it's got
entropy built into it. Trust me,I've just come I spent most of
last year in Africa, and I Itraveled across the continent
three times in the last year onroad and in the bush.
If you see a wild animal eatinganother wild animal's face off
whilst it's alive, It'sterrifying. What nature does to
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nature is absolutely horrifying.Horrifying. Cycle of life. It's
well, that's what we say, so wejust put a moniker on it and we
walk away.
No. It's an abomination. Anysufferance is an abomination.
Any death that occurs withoutwill, divine will choosing to
die is an abomination. Well,politely argue, say that the
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lion starving Mhmm.
Michael Scalar (29:00):
Running through
the Sahara will die in the next
day if it doesn't eat the rabbitthat finds or the deer it finds,
the gazelle, I guess
Sacha (29:07):
lies down with the lamb.
Go back to that. Mhmm. Go ahead.
That's the age that we're movinginto.
Okay.
Michael Scalar (29:13):
Oh, amazing.
Well, Sacha, I love you, man.