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November 25, 2025 30 mins

We’re all told to save the planet—but what if the key to global sustainability isn’t solar panels or recycling bins, but YOU?

In this episode, Justin Wenck, PhD, makes a powerful case for self-sustainability as the foundation of global sustainability. Because if you’re burnt out, depleted, and disconnected, how can you possibly create a better world?

You’ll learn how your internal energy directly shapes the external environment, and you’ll even be guided through a calming visualization to feel that truth in your body.

🔑 Key Takeaways

  • 💡 Major global wins you probably forgot about (good news!).
  • 🌀 The Hermetic Principle of Correspondence: “As within, so without.”
  • ⚠️ Burnout, anxiety, depression—why these are sustainability issues.
  • 🔋 How to boost your “life energy” so you can give from overflow, not depletion.
  • 🌳 A peaceful beach visualization that will help you feel abundant and recharged.

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Justin Wenck (00:00):
Today I am talking about sustainability, and maybe

(00:04):
you care about sustainability,maybe not. Yet the way I'm going
to be talking about today, youare going to find it very, very
important and very beneficial,because I'm going to make the
case that your selfsustainability is the key to
global sustainability. You Areyou ready to live a life with

(00:26):
enough time, money and energyhave relationships and
connections that delight you?
Are you ready for theextraordinary life you know
you've been missing? If so, thenthis is the place for you. I'm a
best selling author, coach,consultant and speaker who's
worked in technology for overtwo decades. I'm a leader at
transforming people andorganizations from operating in

(00:48):
fear, obligation and guilt torunning off joy, ease and love.
It's time for engineeringemotions and energy with me.
Justin Wenck, PhD, you let'sback up. What do most people
think of when, when they talksustainability? If you're like

(01:08):
me and many people, it's this,well, it's about it's about the
Earth, it's about theenvironment. It's about climate,
ensuring that things cancontinue without being depleted
or destroyed or disrupted. Yet,if we really want to think of
it, you know, at the globalscale, the earth scale, from the
point of view of the Earth,there is no depletion there.

(01:32):
There is no destruction. Fact,every day the earth just gets
more and more, because there'sthings coming from space,
asteroids, meteorites, the otherdebris falling, and there's more
energy coming from the sun. Sothe Earth is actually getting
more and more. And so reallythings just change state, right?

(01:55):
Like the weather changes thecomposition of materials from
one form to another, right,like, what, 100 million years
ago, there wasn't the fossilfuels, because where did they
came from? They came from, whatI what I'm taught, what maybe
this has been changed, is thatthere were dinosaurs and other
animals that became extinct andtheir their fossilized remains

(02:18):
turned into the fuels that weused for still many of many of
the things to power our lives.
And so really, it's from aglobal perception the Earth is,
has been, and always will befine, yet we still have a lot of
concerns. And I'm not saying weshouldn't have concerns, we

(02:40):
absolutely should. What I'msaying is important to recognize
is that what matters is theearth being in a state that is
conducive to our enjoyment ofbeing here, that we enjoy the
Earth, the planet, the resourcesin a way that works for us. And
so I was thinking of, well,what, what all has changed?

(03:03):
What's, what's been going on, asyou know, especially in my
lifetime, so looking back overthe past 40 years. So I grew up
in the Los Angeles area, OrangeCounty, to be exact, in the in
the 80s, when there was horriblepollution and there was the the
scare of, and, you know thefacts of acid rain. It was one

(03:23):
of those things where it's like,go to someplace outside of the
LA basin in the mountains, or govisit family in Iowa, where both
my parents were from. And it waslike, What's going on here? I
don't trust this air that Ican't see. In the 40 years we've
done so much stuff. Like, we'vedoubled the efficiency of cars.

(03:43):
And then we used to be that, youknow, sulfur dioxide and
nitrogen oxides would be putinto the air, and those are down
over 90 plus percent. Again,it's like, probably should be,
could be, needs to be betteryet. You know, I remember in my
lifetime, it's like, unlessthere's a fire, which is another
thing. It's like the air isrelatively clean. And I remember

(04:05):
going to visit Beijing China andthe like, the 20 when I go 2020,
1120, 12. And it was, itreminded me of growing up in the
LA area, because it's like, oh,air I can see again. Okay,
wonderful. Yeah, there's been alot of improvements in the
environment, you know. So just,you know, air quality, again,

(04:26):
not saying that everything'sperfect everywhere, yet there's
been huge issues that have beenimproved. Like, remember the
hole in the ozone down nearAntarctica, 99% of those ozone
depleting chemicals got phasedout because the world
collectively said, enough ofthat, and they're used to you.
Ever wonder why, when you go andyou fuel up a, you know,

(04:47):
internal combustion car, like,you know, there's diesel, and
then what's the other fuel type,unleaded? What? Because there
used to be fucking lead in thefuel that people fueled their
cars up and up until the night.
80s, and then it's like, oh,that's a bad idea. So that's
gone. So again, massive, massiveimprovements have happened, like
even take it into account. Youknow, when I was growing up, it

(05:09):
was like, Oh my gosh, therainforests are all going to be
gone. Well, the improvementshave happened there as well.
Apparently, in Brazil,deforestation was has been down
80% from 2004 to 2012 renewableshave, like, let's see 4,000%
increase in renewable energyproduction since 2000 according
to one source. So just huge. Andthen let's, you know, let's look

(05:33):
at what's been going on as faras, like, you know, compute
power, right? Because, you know,growing up, I always wanted, you
know, improve the world, andthat's one of the reasons I got
into electrical engineering,because it seemed like a great
way that I could help the worldwithout having to interact with
people, which is kind of funny,because now my whole thing is
working directly with people,impacting people, communicating

(05:55):
with people. So let's look atthis. So again, I already
mentioned, but think of the tolight our homes. It used to be
incandescent bulbs were used tolight, you know, all of the
places and they were you couldliterally cook food using, you
know, the Easy Bake oven thatwas a toy for kids. It was
effectively a light bulb thatwas just put in a container so

(06:17):
that people could cook food.
Kids, well, I don't adults too.
But with LED bulbs, it's nowtakes 70, 90% less energy to
light the same spaces likeThat's amazing. Energy
production is up two and a halftimes from 1990 to 2023 which is
incredible, considering that theif you look at how what we're

(06:41):
doing, how much more electricitythat you'd think we would need,
like for compute power, theamount of compute power has
grown since the 80s, 1 billionfold, 1 billion times more
compute power. So, you know,it's like we have in our pocket
something more powerful than itwas used to send people to the
moon, right? And so the amountof efficiency, the amount of

(07:04):
compute, the amount of power,the amount of cleaner power
available, and the amount ofjust overall improvements that
has happened in our environmentJustin my lifetime, is
incredible. So when I look atglobal sustainability, I get a
little suspicious about, youknow, well, is it that we don't
have the ability to make thesemassive changes that benefit us?

(07:28):
And I think that's a big thing,is just to own that these
benefits are for us. So wheredoes the problem lie? And I'm
reminded of and a very importantprinciple. It's the hermetic
principle of correspondent,which comes from an ancient
Egyptian Greek text called theCabal ion. And it states as

(07:50):
above, so below, as within, sowithout. What is what does this
mean? Basically, that whatever'sgoing on inside of me is going
tokind of show up have an impact
on what goes on outside of me.
And whatever goes on at a verysmall scale has an impact at the

(08:14):
very large scale. And this alsogoes the other way, or it's
like, what's going on outsidecan have an impact within. And
so many people, they go, Well,how can I be happy? How can I
enjoy my life? How can I relax?
How can I you know, when I seeall these horrible things
happening in my world, and Iagree, it's disheartening, it's
like, Oh, what the what the fuckpeople did these awful things,

(08:36):
these pollutants and these harmsand these other things. Yet
consider that even if humanswere perfect, that sometimes
nature does wild things, like,you know, asteroids coming down,
volcanoes exploding, like I hada chance to go to Yellowstone,
and it's like, this is just likea post apocalyptic world just

(08:59):
created by the Earth, that it'sjust there, and there's parts of
the earth where it's just likethis is just not going to be
what we humans might want tolive in. Yet it's got its own
beauty, its own purpose. So it'snot to say that we don't take
responsibility. What I'm goingto argue is that the place to be
responsible is in our in ourinner world, our thoughts, our

(09:22):
emotions, our belief. And I dobelieve, and I've experienced
this in my own life, that if wechange that which each of us
does have the ability to changeour inner world, regardless of
what's going on outside, that ifthe inner world of of yourself
and many of us change that willenable more and more of these

(09:44):
incredible global shifts that,as I've demonstrated, we're 100%
capable of. So the fact that wehaven't figured it out makes me
think that there's a part of usnot wanting to figure it out
because. So let's, let's thinkof some of these things, of
like, how we tackle a lot ofthese problems currently, like

(10:04):
recycling. Often, most people,they go, you know, and there's
like, three bin options, right?
And depending on where you are,the three bins could be
different, you know, sometimesthere's usually always that
trash, but then sometimesthere's a food waste, then other
times there's a compost, thenother times there's a recycle,
and it's like, what goes where?
And it's like, oh, maybe I'mdoing it wrong. Maybe I'm wrong.

(10:29):
Maybe I did something bad. Sothat's coming up, and then it's
often seems like, Okay, we haveelectric cars now, so that's not
going to create carbon dioxidethat is having the potential of,
you know, causing, you know, allthese pollutants other things
yet, let's be honest here, anelectric car is a much bigger
pain in the ass, like it takestime to charge, and it has a it

(10:50):
can have just a different way ofdriving. And so it seems to me
that most the way things arekind of structured currently,
is, if it's good for theenvironment, it's going to be
bad for me. If it's good for me,it's going to be bad for the
environment. So how is thisshowing up, collectively for us?

(11:11):
And I think it is instructive tolook at, well, what's going on
in the inner world of us, of ushumans, and you know, again,
seeing like all of theseimprovements in technology,
which are supposed to improveour world, yet, if we look at
human sustainability, like, howwell we feel, how we're enjoying
How sustainable is our energylevel, our ability to enjoy

(11:34):
life, It's shit like, okay, justfocusing on the US suicide is is
up at least around 20% and I dobelieve that it would probably
actually be a lot higher if itweren't for some of these other
things going on that just makeit too much work, honestly, to
to stop lifeing yourself. Andit's just like, oh, fuck it.

(11:59):
Who's got the energy? I'll just,I'll just wait and let something
else take of it. Obesity ratesare about what two over two
times. So you just be 15% in the80s, and now it's around 42% is
considered obese. Anxieties, up20% Depression, depression is up
huge. It's up depending on thesource, 50% or up two times

(12:25):
anywhere between went from onlybeing 12% of people with being
considered depressed to anywherefrom 17 to almost 30% being
depressed and burnout is morethan doubled. So if you kind of
go, like, collectively, like, ohmy gosh, we are we're depleted,

(12:46):
we're down, we're bummed. Andthen, you know, again, looking
at this hermetic principle of aswithin so without, how can our
Earth do well? How can what'sgoing on in our environment do
well when we don't have enough,you know, Justin our own
internal environment. So whatif? What if, recognizing that

(13:07):
it's most important that webecome self sustainable, that we
find things to enjoy, to behappy about, that we have ways
to have really good connectivitywith each other, with nature.
What if it's important that wetake care of ourselves, and that

(13:28):
by taking care of ourselves,naturally, the world starts to
get be taken care of. How can wedo this? What's the lens to look
at and to me? And this is one ofthe things that I've discovered.
And again, this is one of thosethings like, you might be like,
Hey, I don't think this is true.
You don't have to think this istrue. But I what I will say is

(13:50):
that even if you don't thinkit's true, kind of like the law
of gravity, people didn'trecognize the law of gravity for
a long time didn't mean that itstill wasn't impacting their
life. Like you jump off a bridgeand you don't believe in
gravity, you're gonna fall down,you're gonna you're gonna fall

(14:11):
and you're gonna go splat,right? So this law, whether you
agree or not, it's just kind ofthe way the universe does
operate. And the thing is, iseven if, even if this doesn't
change the global environment,you'll still feel better. You'll
still feel better. And then ifyou choose to do things to

(14:34):
benefit the environment, for forglobal sustainability, it's
going to be that much more easyfor you, you're going to be that
much more impactful. You'regoing to be able to do that much
more. You're going to havebetter ideas because of your
self sustainability. So thisreally is one of those things,
whether you buy into it having aglobal impact, it's going to

(14:57):
have a good impact for you, andthen it can still. Have a good
impact for other people. So itreally is a win win. Whether you
agree with this being auniversal principle, which it is
just the thing that you can havethe most control over in the
shortest most impactful amountof time is your inner world. And
so one of the things that I'mstarting to share more and more

(15:19):
about is this concept of of lifeenergy, and what exactly is life
energy? It really is, becausebeing electrical engineer, it's
what is, what is information?
What is? What is energy? Energylike you know, what powers our
homes? What is inspiration, whatis intuition? What is what makes

(15:40):
things go from one state toanother? It is what I like to
call life energy, because oftenwe just go like, Okay, well,
it's in the DNA, or it's in thedesign. Yet, if you look at an
acorn, it has the DNA of an oaktree, yet it is not an oak tree.
What makes it go from the acornto the oak tree? And you might

(16:04):
go like, Oh, well, some of it isthe environment. Yes, some of it
is the environment. Yet therecan be two acorns in almost the
exact same places, and they willeither one may grow and one may
not, or they may grow verydifferently. And then some oak
trees may be healthy, and thenothers may not. This has to do

(16:26):
with the life force energysurrounding this acorn slash oak
tree, and that is what allows itto become the oak tree, the way
it is the oak tree, and then theway it no longer becomes the oak
tree. And much like that, yousimilarly have life energy that
is allowing you to be you. Andif you shift that, because there

(16:51):
are things that will drain lifeenergy and there are things that
will allow more life energy in,and many people don't even know
what's coming in and what'sgoing out. So imagine that you
are just you're like a boat, andthe sum of your life energy

(17:12):
going in and that going out isyour buoyancy. Your life energy
is your buoyancy. And if youhave too much going out and not
enough coming in, then you'recompletely underwater and you
you can't go anywhere. You arejust stuck wherever you are

(17:33):
drowned in. And the thing is, isif you don't have enough life
energy to come out of the watera little bit. You don't even
know where you're leaking, andso to actually start to come up,
that's why it's important tofind ways to bring in more life
energy. And a lot of peoplethink that, oh, well, this just
has to do with what you eat. Itdoes. Yet there are many other

(17:56):
sources of life energy, manypractices. There's one that I've
created that I teach. And thenthere's also just being in
nature, and that's a good way ofbeing in places that bring in
naturally more life energy,while also simultaneously
closing up some of those leaguesfor a brief amount of time,
which is why so many people feelso drawn to be in nature. And as

(18:16):
you are able to kind of surfaceand find your leaks, you'll
naturally notice your leaks andstart to do things to close them
off. And then you'll also beable to see like, Well, where
can there be more? And so as youbecome more sustainable, become
a boat that is now floatinginstead of sinking, you can

(18:37):
navigate your personal life withmore ease, with more fun, with
more joy, right? It becomes, itbecomes great. You're this boat
that can fucking float and steerand and cruise, and even if
storms come, you can ride itout, because you can maybe shift
positions and go places whereit's a little bit more easeful

(18:58):
and enjoyable when the stormscome. And so really looking at
your internal state, the lifeenergy that you have, that
you're releasing, that you'rebringing in, is an incredible
important part of your lifeenergy. And another big part of
this is just owning that thereis enough, that there is enough

(19:21):
for you, if anything that youcan imagine, which goes totally
against what most peoplebelieve, that there is a limited
amount. As I said when I startedthis, there is no depletion of
of anything on this earthperiod. There is just more and
more more mass, more energy,continuously coming into this

(19:43):
earth, the form it is that's upto debate, that's shifting,
that's changing constantly. Yethow we shift, how we should
change internally, can play abig part on how that shifts and
change is in the world around.
Around us. And so I want to takeyou through a little experience,

(20:05):
because many of you are goinglike, Oh no, Justin, there's
only so much food, there's onlyso much gold, there's only so
much real estate, this and that,and there is and there isn't,
because often people areutilizing way more than they
actually need or desire. It'scoming from place of scarcity,
yet when you know that, you canjust kind of enjoy what you want

(20:31):
for as long as you want it, andthen you can do something else,
and that opens it up. It startsto become a really cool game
where there's really enough foreverybody to have what they
want, because we don't all wantthe same things at the same
time. Like, it's like, well,wouldn't everybody want to have
a, you know, 18,000 square footmansion, by this, by the by the

(20:53):
ocean. As someone who had a,what did I have? I had a 2020
300 square foot two bedroom orfive bedroom, three bathroom,
home with a yard in the suburbs,I found it quite miserable after
a while. It was, you know, wasit cool for a while? Yeah, it

(21:14):
was just like, I don't need allthis space. I don't want to
worry about all this space. Andso it's something to enjoy. It's
like, great to have for like,you know, a weekend with a group
of people. Yet, for me, I reallyenjoy just having two bedroom,
one bath place by the oceanhere. That's what I really
enjoy. Now, at some point, willI enjoy more? Yeah, and then

(21:34):
maybe some point will enjoyless. If we're not stuck on I
got to keep it and have it andmaintain it because we know that
there's enough, then we canstart to see that there's plenty
for everybody. And so I want toguide you through this
experience that I'll likelymake, make this available yet,
if you're driving, you know, becareful. Drive yet. If you can,

(21:56):
I'm going to invite you tocomfortably start to close down
your eyes and just we're goingto start with three breaths to
get really settled in, reallydeeply. So if those eyes closed
again, if it's safe, going toinhale in the nose and always
exhale out the mouth. We're justgoing to do three breaths that

(22:17):
are going to go deeper anddeeper. The first is going to be
down to the down to the throat.
Second is going to be down tothe belly, and the third is
going to be as deeply as iscomfortable. So if you can
breathe all the way down to toyour your root, to your seat, do
so, but only go as deep as is,as as is comfortable. And so
going to inhale through the noseto the throat, inhaling at the

(22:41):
mouth, exhale and down to theheart, to the belly, inhaling
and exhaling, and all the waydown to your base, inhaling as
deep as you can, and exhalingand just allowing yourself to

(23:02):
breathe gently, easefully, andallowing yourself to see a
beautiful beach, very expansive,plenty of sand, plenty of beach,
and it's sunny, it feels sogood, and you're just wanting to
soak up that sun into your skin,onto your body, and just you

(23:23):
know that the sun is going to besafe for you, it's going to be
nourishing, it's going to bebeautiful. And you're wanting a
space to just be able to layback and enjoy and oh, there's,
there are people here, and youstart walking, and it's so easy
to just find your own way. Andjust, there's plenty of people,

(23:44):
but they just seem to have theirspace. And you have your space
to walk, and oh, there's thismost gorgeous space waiting for
you. There's there's even atowel already laid down, and you
just know this spots for you,and you lay down and you can
expand out. And it feels sopeaceful. You hear the birds,
and you hear the lapping of thegentle ocean, and you lay down

(24:06):
and you rest, and you start tojust enjoy the sun that's coming
into your skin, on your cheeks,on your forehead. And you feel
how this is just so nourishing,so beneficial and enjoyable. And
you're like, This is great. Ijust had to show up, and it's

(24:29):
here for me, and there's plentyand others are doing the exact
same thing, and they're they'regetting all they need, and
you're getting all you need, andyou're getting more and more,
and all of a sudden you justfeel like, wow, this has been
great. I feel I feel complete. Ifeel like I've gotten enough
sunshine, and I'm ready, I'mready to experience some shade.

(24:52):
So you just stand up and youlook back. And just at the edge
of where the sand starts to end,there's these beautiful,
beautiful trees that are talland providing some shade. And
you go there, and you see thebeautiful beach, and you feel

(25:13):
the coolness, the soothing ofall this shade we get to still
enjoy that the sun is shiningwhere you were, and it's shining
on those that are there,desiring it, enjoying the
beautiful, beautiful view, andyou're recognizing that there is

(25:33):
enough, that there is plenty,that there is an abundance of
energy, of space, of possibilityof resource. And that is only as
long as you enjoy what you wishto enjoy, that there is a

(25:53):
beautiful dance of possibility,of plenty, of an energy of self
sustainability that leads toglobal sustainability, and you
realize that now it's time to goback to the world and see all

(26:15):
the opportunities for thisenoughness, this abundance, this
plentiness, can start to comeinto your inner world. In your
outer world, most elegant,easeful, beautiful ways. And
with that, you start to comefully present, fully here, ready
to come fully alert, fullyawake, on the count of 312, and

(26:38):
three, open up the eyes. Andwith that, I do hope that helped
you feel a little bit more selfsustained. And if you want to
look for ways to be, you know,get some more life energy feel

(26:59):
even more self sustained, andmaybe that leads to you doing
things for globalsustainability, or maybe it just
happens automatically, and youjust start to see things
happening for you, becausethings are happening within you,
because remember principle ofcorrespondence, as above, so
below, as within, so without.
I'd love to invite you to get onthe list for leap. Justin

(27:24):
wenck.com/leap, leap, that's mylife energy activation process.
It's incredibly powerful. It'ssomething that I have developed,
and it's doing amazing thingsfor the people that have already
experienced it. I do have anincredible, incredible 30 minute
experience, that if you'regetting this as it goes live,
you'll still be able to sign upfor it at the early bird rate.

(27:49):
And so just you know, go toJustin wenck.com/leap,
and you'll be able to see that,to sign up for that and be on
the wait list for otherexperiences, self directed
things. So really excited aboutthis, and excited for you, and
I'd love to hear what are someways that you can see you can
make your life more sustainable,which means enjoyable for you,

(28:11):
and so that this is an enjoyablelife for us and well, just all
of us, you me and anyone elsewho wants to enjoy life again.
Not everybody has to enjoy it sobut I do. I wish you fantastic
holidays. Thank you so much andgood day. Thanks for tuning in
to engineering emotions andenergy with Justin Wenck PhD,

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Betrayal Season 5

Betrayal Season 5

Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

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