December 16, 2024 • 25 mins
For Auburn’s Kurt Sasser, connection is mission critical.
As the Chief Engagement Officer for Auburn University's Advancement team and the Director of the Auburn Alumni Association, he works daily to develop meaningful and impactful ways to engage the Auburn Family – and connect them back to the university.
“The Auburn Family means all our 252,000+ living Auburn alumni, but it's much more than that,” explained Sasser. “We have parents who went to another school who are sending their son or daughter to Auburn, we have corporations, foundations, friends, family, and other stakeholders who are all in the Auburn Family.”
The pride that comes with belonging to the Auburn Family is something Sasser knows firsthand. He’s a two-time graduate of Auburn’s Harbert College of Business, earning his bachelor’s degree in 2011 and master’s degree in 2016. As an undergraduate, Sasser served as Auburn’s Student Body President 2010 to 2011.
“I think that defines Auburn in some sense,” said Sasser. “And what I mean by that is you can take a Sheffield, Alabama guy that graduated with 16 people in his high school senior class, put him in an environment of 25,000 and he's able to get involved and engaged.”
Enhancing Engagement Opportunities
In an age of constant contact—and constant distraction— Sasser is spearheading a transformative expansion of Auburn’s alumni relations structure, positioning the university to better connect with its growing, nationwide community of multi-generational family, friends and stakeholders.
“It's our job and our responsibility to go and meet them where they are, regardless of their stage of life, regardless of their geographical location,” said Sasser. “We think of our alumni and our friends in segments, and we call them life stages. It all begins with students, and then it goes to younger alumni, then midlife and then seasoned.”
Under Sasser’s leadership, Auburn’s Advancement Engagement team is working to expand the framework of programming and networking opportunities, offering a more accessible way for the Auburn Family to connect through local chapters nationwide.
In October, Sasser’s team appointed five regional engagement officers to better leverage their club and affiliate network as a part of the Auburn Alumni Association.
“These officers go out, connect and utilize our volunteer network to meet Auburn Family members who are otherwise not connected back to the institution and find out what they’re passionate about,” he explained.
The Auburn Club and Affiliate Program supports more than 100 active groups. These clubs and affiliates are spread across 32 states and a handful are based on common interests such as military veterans or specific areas of study.
Fostering Lifelong Partnerships
Sasser and company are able to tap in to a multipronged outreach approach that embraces high-tech while maintaining high-touch efforts.
“Auburn Athletics, famously quoted by David Housel, is the front porch to the institution,” said Sasser. “Engagement means inviting you from the front porch inside the house.”
Fostering lifelong partnerships ensures the Auburn Family continues to serve as powerful ambassadors for the university’s brand, ensuring Auburn’s legacy and mission endures for generations to come.
“We want our alumni and friends to not just be connected to Auburn at a certain point in time, we want them to be connected and engaged on an ongoing basis,” he said.
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(00:04):
Welcome to the Everything Auburn podcast.
My name is Carter.
I'm so glad that you're hereon this special holiday
abbreviated edition of Everything Auburn.
My name is Carter. I'm one time alum.
Next to me is Dalton Odommy cohost two time alum.
And I'd also like to say welcometo our special guest, Kurt Sasser Also,
annoyingly, two time Alum, so.
So here I have two. Twos and one one.
(00:25):
That's right.
Yeah, and I even scraped,I even scraped by when I did it. So.
But it's okay.
I can relate to that.
Well, welcome to Everything Auburn,how are you doing Kurt? Doing well.
Doing well.
Happy holidays.
And, thank you for having me.
Questionone is actually going to come for me,
which is probably not typical.
Let's do it.
The idea is you would ask me questions.
Is that right? Generally. That's okay.
That's okay.
(00:45):
So you,we've been hanging out right for the past
5 or 7 minutes. Can you just kind of.
Look behind the curtain?
Warm up a little warm up, and,I did not know something
that you just alludedto in your opening remarks.
This is an abbreviated.
Yeah.
So so what I've heard now isI got asked 48 hours ago to come on this.
(01:07):
This is I'm by far low on the totempole at best. Second choice.
And not only that, it's abbreviated.
Wow. Well, if you want to go along.
Feel free to react.
If you want to go along, we can do it.
I admittedly,we've done a couple half hours
here, so, you know, maybe work,but like, let's just strap in.
We'll do for an hour and a half.
Let's go.
(01:27):
Let's, let's clear the scheduleand let's do it.
And your listener accounthas dramatically decreased
because of that.
We will not do that.
No. It's okay here. For this podcast.
Too much. Thank you.
I appreciate.
Yeah.
Well,we did have a slight schedule adjustment.
And Kurt Kurt was called in from the.
So that's the most diplomatic wayI've ever heard someone say yes.
Thank you were last on the list.
(01:49):
No, you.
Weren't. Not last.
I was picked last at recessfor flag football.
You were not last,but you definitely weren't
picked first Right? Right. Right.
But happy to be here.
Kurt, if you could share theall of our dozens
and dozens and hundreds of listenersthat include both my parents.
What is it you do here at Auburn for?
For all the people at home.
So just to kind of clear upwhere you kind of fit in.
(02:13):
Yeah.
So thankfulto work for Auburn advancement, which,
if it's not kind of clear forour audience, is really made up
of three different entities.
Philanthropy, which is what we'vehistorically called development.
Now, engagement,which is the team
that I get to come in every dayand help support and serve.
Traditionally, we call ithave called that Alumni Affairs.
(02:33):
And our AuburnAlumni Association is underneath that.
So every dayI kind of come to work
and think through strategicallyand hopefully intentionally,
how do we effectively engagethe Auburn family and the Auburn family?
Intuitively,probably is all of our 252,000
live in Auburn alumni. Heck yeah.
But it's much more and more than that.
(02:55):
We've got parentswho went to another school
who are sending their sonor daughter to Auburn.
We've got corporations,we've got foundations,
we've got, friends and family memberswho are all in on the Auburn family
are just as included as our alumni.
Yeah.
There were also thinking throughhow do we effectively engage.
And so then the third,kind of like to that store
(03:15):
of Auburn advancement,which would be what you guys get to do
every day, right?
Yeah. And marketing.
So we think of it, as a funnel.
We've got the one to all.
Would you guys think abouthow do we get our message out
and brand out to the whole audience?
And then I really focus kind ofon that Auburn family piece.
And thenobviously our philanthropy is the 1 to 1
of how we'regenerating philanthropic support
(03:36):
to make impact to Auburn University.
Well, what a perfect time.
Holiday season.
You spend time with familyand your job is the Auburn family.
I love it.
Yeah.
It's been, it's beenI've been in the role
for about a year and a half.
And it's been so special.
And I sincerely mean that.
I came from the developmentor philanthropy kind of world and,
(03:58):
coming into thinkingmore of a macro big picture
of how do we really be more intentionalwith engaging the Auburn family
with not only the expectationthat we need them to come to Auburn,
but it's also our joband our responsibility to go
and meet them where they are, where,you know,
regardless of their stage of life,regardless of their
(04:18):
geographical location,it's our job to connect them
back to the institution.
And that's kind ofwhat we're thinking about.
That's been a lot of fun.
You know,it's a special time of year
and kind of thinkingabout our whole family
and how blessed we are.
So thanks for having me.
No, no. Well, hey, you know what?
We're glad you decided to join ushere on our rinky dink
little production over here.
Abbreviated, abbreviatedrinky dink, little production.
(04:40):
Abbreviated.
Yeah,but it's also I think it's really cool
that anybody caneverybody is welcome the Auburn family.
But it's one thing that you'revery accustomed
knowledgeable on having been a student.
Yeah.
in SGA two time alum.
Two time. The two time.
Yeah. There you go.
Work it in. Dalton How many do you have?
Two. Okay.
What about you C-Dog.
Yeah. Just the one. Okay. Just the one.
Yeah. That's fine.
(05:01):
But you know it very well.
You've lived it.
You you are, you know,and it's it's
I don't know if that's as commoneverywhere else
to have someone in a positionlike yours
that is as well versed in who Auburn is.
Which I would imagine is a strengthand something that you use
to your advantageon a daily basis
because you know this placelike the back of your hand.
We we're fortunate enoughour talent and culture
(05:23):
office is it's Carterand I experienced yesterday
had Aubie Claus we did.
Heck, yeah.
And,and we were actually talking about today
at AubieClaus as we were waiting in line and
this is actually really cool,we think of our alumni and our friends
and kind of segmentsand we call them life stages.
And I'll just go through themvery quickly.
(05:44):
The first one, students,it all begins
with students would make sense.
Would you kind of just alluded towith my my past experience.
And then it goes to younger alumni,which would make sense.
Then midlife and then seasonedand it all begins with the students.
And as you and Iwere conversing yesterday
during allbecause around the holiday season,
(06:05):
it's actually really coolbeing here in the Wiggle studio
in the Milton Student Center,because I was sharing with you,
I used to host a live a liveradio show, which got really interesting.
We actually have a clip right nowif we end up with. Yeah, yeah.
Please, please,please have had to delete, delete that.
My senior year, 2010national championship year, Cam Newton.
(06:29):
Just like magical.
And, it was called fireside chat.
Burnin it up.
And it was myself,and the editor of the Glamor Rada
and the WEGL Station manager,and his name was Chee.
And, we had just an awesome, awesome timehanging out.
Super fun. I'm not.
I have no idea what we talked about.
(06:50):
Yeah.
You're probablyour most experienced person on mic
then that we've had. Okay.
All right.
That's.
I'm not sure if that's a greatgood thing.
But you're a well seasoned radio host.
Yes.
I've done all five episodes as a seniorin college on the radio,
talking about stuff I had no idea about.
So if that qualifiesas your most seasoned guest,
(07:12):
I'm not sure what that says.
Yeah.
I mean, I have experience on the mic.
He does?
That's fair.
Well,how do you have an experience on the mic?
Yes, that's a setup question.
I do know the answer.
I, I had.
Thank you.
Kurt,I had the privilege of serving
as the open mic man.
Wait. One year?
Yeah, sure, I know, I know. Oh, my gosh.
So speaking in front of,you know, 90,000. Never done that before.
(07:36):
You know, hey, let's.
Talk let's talk about it.
Let's talk about that okay. Great.
Let's dive into it. Okay.
How many mic men have there been.
Oh gosh, I don't know.
Don't you love asking a questionyou don't know?
I don't.
Other person knows the answer.
I believe the originsgo back to the late 60s.
Early said, okay, so whatever.
Let's just say what is that?
(07:56):
60. Sure. Okay.
Round number six, I like it. Okay.
How many?
How many of those?
Mic Man.
Do you thinkbecause you alter your voice when you
when you're. Yes, for sure.
But I don't feel likethat's always been a thing.
No, I don't think it has.
I don't think so.
I it's weird becauseif you've heard.
(08:17):
Me, there's there's almost I persona.
100%.
I become a different voice like guttural.
Right. I know where I'm from.
We're trained.
Mic Men are trainedto change their voice,
and things have to sound different.
And what is.
This training like?
Well, they like you in the WEGL station.
(08:37):
They lock you in? Yes.
For me,the guy who's the Mic Man before me
basically sat me down and was like, look,hey, your voice. We gotta work on that.
And I was like, okay, cool.
Like what a.
Congratulations on being Mic Man,currently you don't have the right voice.
Currently you got a lot of work to do.
It's not working right now.
And so just repetitionI it's a miracle that I can talk.
(09:00):
I don't know howI don't have vocal nodules.
You did for three years.
Three I as far as I know.
Was that ever a concern for sure.
Okay.
Well because at half time I'mpounding cough drops, drinking hot tea.
Put some money in there,put some honey in there for sure.
But it was always basketball.
I was fine or excuse me, football.
I was fine because I had a microphone.
(09:20):
Basketball is where I lost my voice.
Oh, because you had to really.
I really had to do it.
But that makes sense.
Yeah, I would,I'd wake up on Sunday mornings
and have no voice. It was a good time.
But as far as I know, though.
Has anyone ever done it for three?
As far as I know, I think I'mthe only person ever to do it for three.
That's awesome. Yeah. We need to get you.
Yeah, yeah.
I know,I know, there have been guys
who I cheered for a year or cheered.
(09:42):
Yeah, right.
regular cheer for two,then they were Mic Man
like the last year.
But as far as I know, I'mthe only one who ever did Mic Man
for three.
Yeah, well, let's give him a crown.
That's actually kind of cool.
Seriously,but you were SGA president though?
Oh, which is also cool.
I didn't know we did it.
We're going to go there.
Actually SGA president,during the national championship year.
I was pretty sureit was actually really cool.
And not to, just for context, sureI come I'm from Sheffield, Alabama.
(10:07):
Okay.
I was up there for Thanksgiving.
My parents still live in the same houseI grew up in.
And it's a wonderful and special place.
They just take care of each otherand advancement.
We talk about,trust the person to your left.
Trust the person to your right.
Always trust good intent.
They do that.
They live itlike their community is really special.
(10:28):
But it's small.
And, I graduated with 16 people.
Eight girls, eight boys.
12 of us had been togethersince kindergarten. Wowzers.
And I came to Auburnand I was like, whoa.
A little bit of a shock there.
So it was this,like, amazing special journey.
And I think that's thatdefines Auburn in some sense.
(10:51):
And what I mean by that isyou can take a Sheffield,
Alabama guy that graduatedwith 16 people in his class,
put him in an environment of 25,000,and he's able to get involved
and engaged, not by my own doing,but really Auburn's doing in terms of,
we don't care where you come from,we don't care who you are.
(11:12):
Once you are a part of the Auburn family,regardless of
if you're alumni, a parent or a friend,you're all right. You have ownership.
We had a former leader,and I loved how he said this.
Auburn has a soul, and Auburn has a soul.
Yeah, right.
This is this is not just anotherhigher education institution.
We've got a soul.
I mean, there's somethingto the loyalty of our fan base.
(11:35):
It's always overlypositive, regardless of a record
or packing out Jordan-Hare Stadium.
We're packing outAuburn Arena, we're packing out
Plainsman Park.
We're supporting volleyball.
We're supporting, golf onboth the women's and men's side.
Auburn has a soul to it.
And so coming from that environment,to to where I'm at today, where my,
my wife,and our kids call this place home.
(11:59):
It's just super special.
Yeah, yeah,it's always thankful to be a part of it.
It's always been one of those thingsthat people I've heard
it said about a lot of places,a lot of things you don't know.
And it's hard to explainhard put words into it,
you know, when you feel it.
And that's kind of like a copout answer.
Yeah, I feel like sometimes.
But I've been a lot of placesthat people describe like that.
I've never been somewhere like Auburn.
And I think is that soul.
(12:20):
It's that feeling that you have.
There's thatubiquity of somebody
you see with an Auburn shirton or Auburn hat
or someone you see on campus,and you have this shared experience.
And you and I even, I don't knowfully the, the impetus with your reason,
but you and I even left.
We did we did a boomerang and weI left for three years, moved my family.
We had our daughter at the time,had her son up in Nashville, Tennessee.
(12:43):
And I left.
I work for Delta Airlinesfor three years,
and I was actually sharing thiswith our senior vice
president and executivedirector of the Auburn
Alumni Association,president of the Foundation
even more titles.
You want me to give Rob Wellbaum,he's actually got more.
Rob I was sharing this with Rob. We had,our corporate and foundation relations
team did a Delta Day at Deltawhen I worked at Delta.
(13:05):
And he said, do you remember that?
I was like, yeah, I was there,but I was working for Delta.
And I remember being there in Atlanta,Georgia.
Delta is a great company,great environment,
but I very vividly remembermissing Auburn
and it's it's David Houselhas that kind of famous
quote to your point.
Once you've experienced it,you will never be the same, right?
(13:25):
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I had a very you know, I left,a lot of the reason I left
is because I had gone to school Auburn.
I was working here full time.
I had been, had been in Auburnfor like eight, nine years.
And it was like those like collegeand right out of college years.
And that was my whole life experience.
And there's this little part of methat thought,
I need to kind of leave the nest. Same.
(13:45):
And, andsee if I can fly on my own, same.
And I did, and it was a really fun.
And then I kind ofdid that for a few years.
My daughter was born,started kind of, you know,
wanted to try to make it a life change,how to be a better dad, work
less, you know, like crazy hours.
I was workingand then I had a friend
call me, say, hey, we have this job.
You kind of do this sort of thing.
(14:06):
Do you know anybody who is good for it?
And in that moment, I was like,I really miss Auburn.
I know, I.
Really I really miss Auburn.
I might knowsomeone who's really good for it.
It's me.
I might, I might,I might be interested myself.
And then there was, you know,almost two
and a half years, three years later,I was right back.
(14:26):
It's so interestingyou are saying this because I have
I would found that young alumni category.
I hope I still fall in the young alumni.
And so how old are you?
I'm 25. 29. Oh. You're great.
Oh, sweet. You got a.
So all of my friends who've graduatedand left
are so jealous that I'm still here. Yeah.
And there it's constantly.
(14:47):
I'm just looking for a way to get backand looking for a way to get back.
And I think it goes back toback when I was a student recruiter.
At the end of all of my tours,I would say,
look, you all can go anywhereand receive an education,
but you can come to Auburn,receive an education
and make this place your home.
Yeah,but you can't really do that
a lot of other places.
So I think we've all had.
(15:08):
Yeah, I honestlyI never thought I'd be back.
Not because I didn't want to,I just didn't, you know,
I never thought the starswould necessarily align for it to happen.
And I'm very glad that it didbecause it is.
It's a really cool place, like you likelike it's one cool place.
Being here as a studentand being here as an employee.
And then now I'm getting like, raisemy daughter
and have a family hereand get to witness it.
(15:31):
Like, see my watch my daughtermeet Aubie. Yeah.
There's like so many incredible thingsthat I'm very glad
that I get to experiencethat if I hadn't been lucky enough
to be able to come backand I would have missed out,
I wouldn't even know I missed out on it.
You know, it's been interestingto your point to see how the community
has changedover the years to the positive.
And I would argue that when I was,coming out of school,
(15:56):
that a young professional environment,it was there, but I wouldn't
call it thriving.
And now it'sjust this really attractive place
not only to even stay,but maybe you go away for two years
and you come back.
And I think it's just beenreally cool to see the town,
grow into that in a really healthy way.
(16:16):
And then once you get post undergraduateor even graduate two two degrees up.
Here, shout out easy. Yeah.
But once you get past that,you also see this whole
surrounding area of campuscalled community.
Oh, yeah.
That, like, is really fun. Yeah.
You know, and there's stuffto do outside of the university and even,
(16:40):
like doing stuffwith the university changes
because it's a different dynamic,because you're not a student,
you're an employee or,just a citizen of the area.
So it's been,it's been really cool
to experience that, too.
And you're in a big part of like in,like Auburn advancement as a whole,
but specifically what you kind ofis a big part of growing that
and kind of shapingwhat the future of Auburn will be
(17:01):
and kind of looks like we.
Really believe that, it's not enoughto expect our alumni to come back here.
And let's just do a quickhypothetical, okay? Love it. Okay.
Let us take me.
Okay. I'm in my 30s.
I'm not going to sayif I'm up or down on that decade,
(17:22):
but I'm in my 30s.
I've got a soon to be seven year old girland a soon to be five year old boy.
And, shout out to Addelyn and Shepherd.
And so I will say that I, in fact,let's say I lived in Dallas, Texas,
and I'm at the like even right now.
Like I'm at the like, you know,I work what I consider to be,
(17:43):
you know, pretty hard and as we all do,and I've got young kids.
And so when I'm not working,I try and I fail at this,
but I try to really engage with my familyin a very intentional way.
And that's the beautyof living in Auburn.
But if I'm in Dallas,so my capacity here's a point.
My capacity of time is extremely limited.
(18:04):
So my ability,even if I have the finite
resources, my abilityto give back to Auburn,
it's just limited by time.
Yeah. Our.
Our most scarce resource. And sothat person that I just described,
that hypotheticaldeserves to be connected
and engaged to Auburnjust as much as the person
(18:27):
who has capacity of timeto get back to campus.
And so what I've often saidis it's our job, regardless
of what stage of life or phase of lifethat I talked through earlier,
that you're in, regardlessof where you live.
We now have five regional.
We just started this October 1st.
We now have fiveregional engagement officers
that are leveraging over our 100 cluband affiliate network
(18:50):
as a part of the AuburnAlumni Association, to go out and connect
and utilize our volunteer networkto meet Auburn
family members who are otherwisenot connected
back to the institutionand find out from you.
What are you passionate about?
How do you want to stay connected?
And by the way, you can stay connected.
Slash engaged right where you are,regardless of your ability
(19:14):
from a time standpointto give back to campus.
One of my favorite thingsthat I often say that you
too have heard at nauseum.
Auburn athletics.
Yep, famously quoted by DavidHousel is the front porch
to the institution?
I could not agree more.
That's a. Great analogy. It's beautiful.
If we hadif that's the front porch,
(19:34):
what does engagementslash and one night engagement mean?
It means inviting youfrom the front porch inside the house.
And so we want youto not be just connected
or engaged back to Auburnat a point in time.
We want you to be connectedand engaged on an ongoing basis.
Wooo!that's getting me fired up!
That's good. Yeah. Well, how about this?
That was a long time.
(19:55):
I'll put you a little biton the spot here. Okay.
As we're kind of closingin on our abbreviated, if you will.
He's been looking at his clock a lot.
You just to be sure you getthe timer going.
I'm just keep an eye on it.
If we could give some of the peoplelistening to some agency themselves,
what is maybe the best way to.
Yeah, to engage themselves.
Obviously,you and your team are doing a lot of work
(20:15):
of reaching those people.
But if someone wants to dothat themselves and reach out
and get connected,what would be the best way
they can do that?
Yeah.
Reach outto us, through our social channels,
through any of ourregional engagement officers.
So by that regionengagement model that I describe,
we cover the entire country. Heck, yeah.
And the easiest wayto kind of get connected
(20:35):
to one of those individualsis really to kind of raise your hand
at one of the local clubsor affiliate groups
that are within your respectivegeographical area.
And if you're like,I don't know where that is, we've
got them all listed on our website.
Just go to the AuburnAlumni Association's web page
and we've got them alwaysthat you can kind of find,
some contact information there.
(20:55):
My email address is Kurt, K-U-R-T .
Sasser S-A-S-S-E-R at auburn.eduif you want
if you want to get to know more,if you're like, hey,
I'm really interested.
I really want to connect.
Email me.
We will get you plugged in.
Beautiful.
There you go.
People are wonderful.
Also, I want to give a shout out here.
(21:16):
I love the sock game. By the way.
It's the holiday. Season.
That's a great thing. I love it.
Yeah, they told me.
I think you guys told meto wear an auburn polo
for the camera, right?
And then, you know.
But it is bold.
Call on the footiesbecause it's it's chilly out.
I took onestep out of my house this
morning and I was like,well, but it's not.
(21:38):
But I do this.
I don't want to go back in. Right.
I notice I didn't make a change.
Yeah, yeah.
That's it.
So I'm committed.
I do that with I've got a quarter zip on.
I did that with the jacket.
I mean it'sI think high 50, low of 26
I mean it's frigid.
Yeah. And it's kind of.
For an Alabama boy here now.
For an Alabama boy it is frigid.
It is. Might as well be zero.
Yeah.
And I needed a jacket and I did not get.
(22:00):
One less than I was in Vegastwo weeks ago for a work trip.
Humblebrag. Oh, yeah.
Well, you know it.
Yeah.
And, the desert gets cold.
But let me tell you,I don't know if it's
just that there's moisture in the airin the south
getting close to do anything.
Close, doing some imaginary science, I.
Think I am,I think I am, but it's it's
freezing here.
(22:21):
It's the humidity, right?
Yes, it has to be. It has, it has to.
Yeah.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
I don't either.
A lot of people say,hey, they'll ask a question
and my confidence is likea 12 out of ten on it.
And I'm just like, boom, answer got it?
They go, are you sure? I go, no, no.
My personality trait,I think, is why I ended up in the seat
that I'm currently sitting in isI just make a snap judgment
(22:43):
on anything immediately.
And then that's the wholeI'm down on period.
Yeah.
It doesn't matterhow knowledgeable
I am on the subject, that's who I am.
And at my core.
Do we have time for one last story?
Of course. Please bring it on.
You can say no.
I mean, if I.
If I can say yesand then I'll just cut it later.
Okay.
So young development officer.
I'm out in Houston, Texaswith, David Maddox and Rob Wellbaum
(23:05):
and I'm a I'm a business major.
Name drop. Man. Yeah, you drop the mic.
And so I'm,I've engaged this Auburn parent,
and this Auburn parentruns a manufacturing
engineering firm in the oiland gas industry in Houston.
Obviously, that makes a lot of sense.
And we're going throughand it's just like all technical.
And what this company doesis they take, a drill
(23:27):
and they take a plot of land or areawhere they think there's oil
and they go downand they use all these gyro thingamajig
and they map it out.
And through their technology,they can say,
with a degree of certainty,we believe that you're going to be able
to source this amount ofoil from this specific area.
(23:48):
So they're explaining this to us.
And he, the parent, has told us about,this specific drill, that
and how it works.
And he's kind of get a model outand he's, you know,
got it in his handsand shown us how it works.
And my confidence that leads me astraysometimes goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it like it does thisthis this and this and this.
(24:10):
And this guy was kind of,you know, a a bigger guy, very muscular.
He looks at me just dead serious.
Not even kind of a disclaimer.
No.
And Rob Well, Rob Wellbaumthat that story happened ten years ago.
Rob Wellbaum to this day,loves to remind me of that story.
When I open up my mouth too soon.
(24:33):
The a that is a beautiful.
Yeah. You're just confident.
Yeah. It's it's not a bad thing. No.
Well, I just want to say, you know,thank you for joining us.
Thank you for having ended upnot being as abbreviated as we.
So there you go.
We managed to. Stretch it out.
Anything you want.
It will not hurt my feelings.
No. It is.
Okay. Well, thank you for joining us.
Thank you for what you do for Auburn.
Thank you. All.
And I appreciate yousharing, your stories with us today.
(24:55):
Yeah. Hey, shout out to you all.
This is a good thing.
Appreciate you alltaking it upon yourself to make
make it a thing.
We have to think creativelyabout how we engage
and communicate with our Auburn family.
And you guys put on that hair every day.
Grateful.
Well, hey,you know, next time we have a scheduling
mishap, we'll get you in as well.
I'll say yes, I love it.
(25:15):
Perfect, perfect.
Well, thank you for tuning into another episode of Everything Auburn.
We want to givea special shout out to WEGL
for allowing us to use their spaceonce again.
We hope that all of you have a safeand happy holiday season.
And War Eagle. War Eagle War Eagle
Welcome to the Everything Auburn podcast.
My name is Carter.
I'm so glad that you're hereon this special holiday
abbreviated edition of Everything Auburn.
My name is Carter. I'm one time alum.
Next to me is Dalton Odommy cohost two time alum.
And I'd also like to say welcometo our special guest, Kurt Sasser Also,
annoyingly, two time Alum, so.
So here I have two. Twos and one one.
(00:25):
That's right.
Yeah, and I even scraped,I even scraped by when I did it. So.
But it's okay.
I can relate to that.
Well, welcome to Everything Auburn,how are you doing Kurt? Doing well.
Doing well.
Happy holidays.
And, thank you for having me.
Questionone is actually going to come for me,
which is probably not typical.
Let's do it.
The idea is you would ask me questions.
Is that right? Generally. That's okay.
That's okay.
(00:45):
So you,we've been hanging out right for the past
5 or 7 minutes. Can you just kind of.
Look behind the curtain?
Warm up a little warm up, and,I did not know something
that you just alludedto in your opening remarks.
This is an abbreviated.
Yeah.
So so what I've heard now isI got asked 48 hours ago to come on this.
(01:07):
This is I'm by far low on the totempole at best. Second choice.
And not only that, it's abbreviated.
Wow. Well, if you want to go along.
Feel free to react.
If you want to go along, we can do it.
I admittedly,we've done a couple half hours
here, so, you know, maybe work,but like, let's just strap in.
We'll do for an hour and a half.
Let's go.
(01:27):
Let's, let's clear the scheduleand let's do it.
And your listener accounthas dramatically decreased
because of that.
We will not do that.
No. It's okay here. For this podcast.
Too much. Thank you.
I appreciate.
Yeah.
Well,we did have a slight schedule adjustment.
And Kurt Kurt was called in from the.
So that's the most diplomatic wayI've ever heard someone say yes.
Thank you were last on the list.
(01:49):
No, you.
Weren't. Not last.
I was picked last at recessfor flag football.
You were not last,but you definitely weren't
picked first Right? Right. Right.
But happy to be here.
Kurt, if you could share theall of our dozens
and dozens and hundreds of listenersthat include both my parents.
What is it you do here at Auburn for?
For all the people at home.
So just to kind of clear upwhere you kind of fit in.
(02:13):
Yeah.
So thankfulto work for Auburn advancement, which,
if it's not kind of clear forour audience, is really made up
of three different entities.
Philanthropy, which is what we'vehistorically called development.
Now, engagement,which is the team
that I get to come in every dayand help support and serve.
Traditionally, we call ithave called that Alumni Affairs.
(02:33):
And our AuburnAlumni Association is underneath that.
So every dayI kind of come to work
and think through strategicallyand hopefully intentionally,
how do we effectively engagethe Auburn family and the Auburn family?
Intuitively,probably is all of our 252,000
live in Auburn alumni. Heck yeah.
But it's much more and more than that.
(02:55):
We've got parentswho went to another school
who are sending their sonor daughter to Auburn.
We've got corporations,we've got foundations,
we've got, friends and family memberswho are all in on the Auburn family
are just as included as our alumni.
Yeah.
There were also thinking throughhow do we effectively engage.
And so then the third,kind of like to that store
(03:15):
of Auburn advancement,which would be what you guys get to do
every day, right?
Yeah. And marketing.
So we think of it, as a funnel.
We've got the one to all.
Would you guys think abouthow do we get our message out
and brand out to the whole audience?
And then I really focus kind ofon that Auburn family piece.
And thenobviously our philanthropy is the 1 to 1
of how we'regenerating philanthropic support
(03:36):
to make impact to Auburn University.
Well, what a perfect time.
Holiday season.
You spend time with familyand your job is the Auburn family.
I love it.
Yeah.
It's been, it's beenI've been in the role
for about a year and a half.
And it's been so special.
And I sincerely mean that.
I came from the developmentor philanthropy kind of world and,
(03:58):
coming into thinkingmore of a macro big picture
of how do we really be more intentionalwith engaging the Auburn family
with not only the expectationthat we need them to come to Auburn,
but it's also our joband our responsibility to go
and meet them where they are, where,you know,
regardless of their stage of life,regardless of their
(04:18):
geographical location,it's our job to connect them
back to the institution.
And that's kind ofwhat we're thinking about.
That's been a lot of fun.
You know,it's a special time of year
and kind of thinkingabout our whole family
and how blessed we are.
So thanks for having me.
No, no. Well, hey, you know what?
We're glad you decided to join ushere on our rinky dink
little production over here.
Abbreviated, abbreviatedrinky dink, little production.
(04:40):
Abbreviated.
Yeah,but it's also I think it's really cool
that anybody caneverybody is welcome the Auburn family.
But it's one thing that you'revery accustomed
knowledgeable on having been a student.
Yeah.
in SGA two time alum.
Two time. The two time.
Yeah. There you go.
Work it in. Dalton How many do you have?
Two. Okay.
What about you C-Dog.
Yeah. Just the one. Okay. Just the one.
Yeah. That's fine.
(05:01):
But you know it very well.
You've lived it.
You you are, you know,and it's it's
I don't know if that's as commoneverywhere else
to have someone in a positionlike yours
that is as well versed in who Auburn is.
Which I would imagine is a strengthand something that you use
to your advantageon a daily basis
because you know this placelike the back of your hand.
We we're fortunate enoughour talent and culture
(05:23):
office is it's Carterand I experienced yesterday
had Aubie Claus we did.
Heck, yeah.
And,and we were actually talking about today
at AubieClaus as we were waiting in line and
this is actually really cool,we think of our alumni and our friends
and kind of segmentsand we call them life stages.
And I'll just go through themvery quickly.
(05:44):
The first one, students,it all begins
with students would make sense.
Would you kind of just alluded towith my my past experience.
And then it goes to younger alumni,which would make sense.
Then midlife and then seasonedand it all begins with the students.
And as you and Iwere conversing yesterday
during allbecause around the holiday season,
(06:05):
it's actually really coolbeing here in the Wiggle studio
in the Milton Student Center,because I was sharing with you,
I used to host a live a liveradio show, which got really interesting.
We actually have a clip right nowif we end up with. Yeah, yeah.
Please, please,please have had to delete, delete that.
My senior year, 2010national championship year, Cam Newton.
(06:29):
Just like magical.
And, it was called fireside chat.
Burnin it up.
And it was myself,and the editor of the Glamor Rada
and the WEGL Station manager,and his name was Chee.
And, we had just an awesome, awesome timehanging out.
Super fun. I'm not.
I have no idea what we talked about.
(06:50):
Yeah.
You're probablyour most experienced person on mic
then that we've had. Okay.
All right.
That's.
I'm not sure if that's a greatgood thing.
But you're a well seasoned radio host.
Yes.
I've done all five episodes as a seniorin college on the radio,
talking about stuff I had no idea about.
So if that qualifiesas your most seasoned guest,
(07:12):
I'm not sure what that says.
Yeah.
I mean, I have experience on the mic.
He does?
That's fair.
Well,how do you have an experience on the mic?
Yes, that's a setup question.
I do know the answer.
I, I had.
Thank you.
Kurt,I had the privilege of serving
as the open mic man.
Wait. One year?
Yeah, sure, I know, I know. Oh, my gosh.
So speaking in front of,you know, 90,000. Never done that before.
(07:36):
You know, hey, let's.
Talk let's talk about it.
Let's talk about that okay. Great.
Let's dive into it. Okay.
How many mic men have there been.
Oh gosh, I don't know.
Don't you love asking a questionyou don't know?
I don't.
Other person knows the answer.
I believe the originsgo back to the late 60s.
Early said, okay, so whatever.
Let's just say what is that?
(07:56):
60. Sure. Okay.
Round number six, I like it. Okay.
How many?
How many of those?
Mic Man.
Do you thinkbecause you alter your voice when you
when you're. Yes, for sure.
But I don't feel likethat's always been a thing.
No, I don't think it has.
I don't think so.
I it's weird becauseif you've heard.
(08:17):
Me, there's there's almost I persona.
100%.
I become a different voice like guttural.
Right. I know where I'm from.
We're trained.
Mic Men are trainedto change their voice,
and things have to sound different.
And what is.
This training like?
Well, they like you in the WEGL station.
(08:37):
They lock you in? Yes.
For me,the guy who's the Mic Man before me
basically sat me down and was like, look,hey, your voice. We gotta work on that.
And I was like, okay, cool.
Like what a.
Congratulations on being Mic Man,currently you don't have the right voice.
Currently you got a lot of work to do.
It's not working right now.
And so just repetitionI it's a miracle that I can talk.
(09:00):
I don't know howI don't have vocal nodules.
You did for three years.
Three I as far as I know.
Was that ever a concern for sure.
Okay.
Well because at half time I'mpounding cough drops, drinking hot tea.
Put some money in there,put some honey in there for sure.
But it was always basketball.
I was fine or excuse me, football.
I was fine because I had a microphone.
(09:20):
Basketball is where I lost my voice.
Oh, because you had to really.
I really had to do it.
But that makes sense.
Yeah, I would,I'd wake up on Sunday mornings
and have no voice. It was a good time.
But as far as I know, though.
Has anyone ever done it for three?
As far as I know, I think I'mthe only person ever to do it for three.
That's awesome. Yeah. We need to get you.
Yeah, yeah.
I know,I know, there have been guys
who I cheered for a year or cheered.
(09:42):
Yeah, right.
regular cheer for two,then they were Mic Man
like the last year.
But as far as I know, I'mthe only one who ever did Mic Man
for three.
Yeah, well, let's give him a crown.
That's actually kind of cool.
Seriously,but you were SGA president though?
Oh, which is also cool.
I didn't know we did it.
We're going to go there.
Actually SGA president,during the national championship year.
I was pretty sureit was actually really cool.
And not to, just for context, sureI come I'm from Sheffield, Alabama.
(10:07):
Okay.
I was up there for Thanksgiving.
My parents still live in the same houseI grew up in.
And it's a wonderful and special place.
They just take care of each otherand advancement.
We talk about,trust the person to your left.
Trust the person to your right.
Always trust good intent.
They do that.
They live itlike their community is really special.
(10:28):
But it's small.
And, I graduated with 16 people.
Eight girls, eight boys.
12 of us had been togethersince kindergarten. Wowzers.
And I came to Auburnand I was like, whoa.
A little bit of a shock there.
So it was this,like, amazing special journey.
And I think that's thatdefines Auburn in some sense.
(10:51):
And what I mean by that isyou can take a Sheffield,
Alabama guy that graduatedwith 16 people in his class,
put him in an environment of 25,000,and he's able to get involved
and engaged, not by my own doing,but really Auburn's doing in terms of,
we don't care where you come from,we don't care who you are.
(11:12):
Once you are a part of the Auburn family,regardless of
if you're alumni, a parent or a friend,you're all right. You have ownership.
We had a former leader,and I loved how he said this.
Auburn has a soul, and Auburn has a soul.
Yeah, right.
This is this is not just anotherhigher education institution.
We've got a soul.
I mean, there's somethingto the loyalty of our fan base.
(11:35):
It's always overlypositive, regardless of a record
or packing out Jordan-Hare Stadium.
We're packing outAuburn Arena, we're packing out
Plainsman Park.
We're supporting volleyball.
We're supporting, golf onboth the women's and men's side.
Auburn has a soul to it.
And so coming from that environment,to to where I'm at today, where my,
my wife,and our kids call this place home.
(11:59):
It's just super special.
Yeah, yeah,it's always thankful to be a part of it.
It's always been one of those thingsthat people I've heard
it said about a lot of places,a lot of things you don't know.
And it's hard to explainhard put words into it,
you know, when you feel it.
And that's kind of like a copout answer.
Yeah, I feel like sometimes.
But I've been a lot of placesthat people describe like that.
I've never been somewhere like Auburn.
And I think is that soul.
(12:20):
It's that feeling that you have.
There's thatubiquity of somebody
you see with an Auburn shirton or Auburn hat
or someone you see on campus,and you have this shared experience.
And you and I even, I don't knowfully the, the impetus with your reason,
but you and I even left.
We did we did a boomerang and weI left for three years, moved my family.
We had our daughter at the time,had her son up in Nashville, Tennessee.
(12:43):
And I left.
I work for Delta Airlinesfor three years,
and I was actually sharing thiswith our senior vice
president and executivedirector of the Auburn
Alumni Association,president of the Foundation
even more titles.
You want me to give Rob Wellbaum,he's actually got more.
Rob I was sharing this with Rob. We had,our corporate and foundation relations
team did a Delta Day at Deltawhen I worked at Delta.
(13:05):
And he said, do you remember that?
I was like, yeah, I was there,but I was working for Delta.
And I remember being there in Atlanta,Georgia.
Delta is a great company,great environment,
but I very vividly remembermissing Auburn
and it's it's David Houselhas that kind of famous
quote to your point.
Once you've experienced it,you will never be the same, right?
(13:25):
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I had a very you know, I left,a lot of the reason I left
is because I had gone to school Auburn.
I was working here full time.
I had been, had been in Auburnfor like eight, nine years.
And it was like those like collegeand right out of college years.
And that was my whole life experience.
And there's this little part of methat thought,
I need to kind of leave the nest. Same.
(13:45):
And, andsee if I can fly on my own, same.
And I did, and it was a really fun.
And then I kind ofdid that for a few years.
My daughter was born,started kind of, you know,
wanted to try to make it a life change,how to be a better dad, work
less, you know, like crazy hours.
I was workingand then I had a friend
call me, say, hey, we have this job.
You kind of do this sort of thing.
(14:06):
Do you know anybody who is good for it?
And in that moment, I was like,I really miss Auburn.
I know, I.
Really I really miss Auburn.
I might knowsomeone who's really good for it.
It's me.
I might, I might,I might be interested myself.
And then there was, you know,almost two
and a half years, three years later,I was right back.
(14:26):
It's so interestingyou are saying this because I have
I would found that young alumni category.
I hope I still fall in the young alumni.
And so how old are you?
I'm 25. 29. Oh. You're great.
Oh, sweet. You got a.
So all of my friends who've graduatedand left
are so jealous that I'm still here. Yeah.
And there it's constantly.
(14:47):
I'm just looking for a way to get backand looking for a way to get back.
And I think it goes back toback when I was a student recruiter.
At the end of all of my tours,I would say,
look, you all can go anywhereand receive an education,
but you can come to Auburn,receive an education
and make this place your home.
Yeah,but you can't really do that
a lot of other places.
So I think we've all had.
(15:08):
Yeah, I honestlyI never thought I'd be back.
Not because I didn't want to,I just didn't, you know,
I never thought the starswould necessarily align for it to happen.
And I'm very glad that it didbecause it is.
It's a really cool place, like you likelike it's one cool place.
Being here as a studentand being here as an employee.
And then now I'm getting like, raisemy daughter
and have a family hereand get to witness it.
(15:31):
Like, see my watch my daughtermeet Aubie. Yeah.
There's like so many incredible thingsthat I'm very glad
that I get to experiencethat if I hadn't been lucky enough
to be able to come backand I would have missed out,
I wouldn't even know I missed out on it.
You know, it's been interestingto your point to see how the community
has changedover the years to the positive.
And I would argue that when I was,coming out of school,
(15:56):
that a young professional environment,it was there, but I wouldn't
call it thriving.
And now it'sjust this really attractive place
not only to even stay,but maybe you go away for two years
and you come back.
And I think it's just beenreally cool to see the town,
grow into that in a really healthy way.
(16:16):
And then once you get post undergraduateor even graduate two two degrees up.
Here, shout out easy. Yeah.
But once you get past that,you also see this whole
surrounding area of campuscalled community.
Oh, yeah.
That, like, is really fun. Yeah.
You know, and there's stuffto do outside of the university and even,
(16:40):
like doing stuffwith the university changes
because it's a different dynamic,because you're not a student,
you're an employee or,just a citizen of the area.
So it's been,it's been really cool
to experience that, too.
And you're in a big part of like in,like Auburn advancement as a whole,
but specifically what you kind ofis a big part of growing that
and kind of shapingwhat the future of Auburn will be
(17:01):
and kind of looks like we.
Really believe that, it's not enoughto expect our alumni to come back here.
And let's just do a quickhypothetical, okay? Love it. Okay.
Let us take me.
Okay. I'm in my 30s.
I'm not going to sayif I'm up or down on that decade,
(17:22):
but I'm in my 30s.
I've got a soon to be seven year old girland a soon to be five year old boy.
And, shout out to Addelyn and Shepherd.
And so I will say that I, in fact,let's say I lived in Dallas, Texas,
and I'm at the like even right now.
Like I'm at the like, you know,I work what I consider to be,
(17:43):
you know, pretty hard and as we all do,and I've got young kids.
And so when I'm not working,I try and I fail at this,
but I try to really engage with my familyin a very intentional way.
And that's the beautyof living in Auburn.
But if I'm in Dallas,so my capacity here's a point.
My capacity of time is extremely limited.
(18:04):
So my ability,even if I have the finite
resources, my abilityto give back to Auburn,
it's just limited by time.
Yeah. Our.
Our most scarce resource. And sothat person that I just described,
that hypotheticaldeserves to be connected
and engaged to Auburnjust as much as the person
(18:27):
who has capacity of timeto get back to campus.
And so what I've often saidis it's our job, regardless
of what stage of life or phase of lifethat I talked through earlier,
that you're in, regardlessof where you live.
We now have five regional.
We just started this October 1st.
We now have fiveregional engagement officers
that are leveraging over our 100 cluband affiliate network
(18:50):
as a part of the AuburnAlumni Association, to go out and connect
and utilize our volunteer networkto meet Auburn
family members who are otherwisenot connected
back to the institutionand find out from you.
What are you passionate about?
How do you want to stay connected?
And by the way, you can stay connected.
Slash engaged right where you are,regardless of your ability
(19:14):
from a time standpointto give back to campus.
One of my favorite thingsthat I often say that you
too have heard at nauseum.
Auburn athletics.
Yep, famously quoted by DavidHousel is the front porch
to the institution?
I could not agree more.
That's a. Great analogy. It's beautiful.
If we hadif that's the front porch,
(19:34):
what does engagementslash and one night engagement mean?
It means inviting youfrom the front porch inside the house.
And so we want youto not be just connected
or engaged back to Auburnat a point in time.
We want you to be connectedand engaged on an ongoing basis.
Wooo!that's getting me fired up!
That's good. Yeah. Well, how about this?
That was a long time.
(19:55):
I'll put you a little biton the spot here. Okay.
As we're kind of closingin on our abbreviated, if you will.
He's been looking at his clock a lot.
You just to be sure you getthe timer going.
I'm just keep an eye on it.
If we could give some of the peoplelistening to some agency themselves,
what is maybe the best way to.
Yeah, to engage themselves.
Obviously,you and your team are doing a lot of work
(20:15):
of reaching those people.
But if someone wants to dothat themselves and reach out
and get connected,what would be the best way
they can do that?
Yeah.
Reach outto us, through our social channels,
through any of ourregional engagement officers.
So by that regionengagement model that I describe,
we cover the entire country. Heck, yeah.
And the easiest wayto kind of get connected
(20:35):
to one of those individualsis really to kind of raise your hand
at one of the local clubsor affiliate groups
that are within your respectivegeographical area.
And if you're like,I don't know where that is, we've
got them all listed on our website.
Just go to the AuburnAlumni Association's web page
and we've got them alwaysthat you can kind of find,
some contact information there.
(20:55):
My email address is Kurt, K-U-R-T .
Sasser S-A-S-S-E-R at auburn.eduif you want
if you want to get to know more,if you're like, hey,
I'm really interested.
I really want to connect.
Email me.
We will get you plugged in.
Beautiful.
There you go.
People are wonderful.
Also, I want to give a shout out here.
(21:16):
I love the sock game. By the way.
It's the holiday. Season.
That's a great thing. I love it.
Yeah, they told me.
I think you guys told meto wear an auburn polo
for the camera, right?
And then, you know.
But it is bold.
Call on the footiesbecause it's it's chilly out.
I took onestep out of my house this
morning and I was like,well, but it's not.
(21:38):
But I do this.
I don't want to go back in. Right.
I notice I didn't make a change.
Yeah, yeah.
That's it.
So I'm committed.
I do that with I've got a quarter zip on.
I did that with the jacket.
I mean it'sI think high 50, low of 26
I mean it's frigid.
Yeah. And it's kind of.
For an Alabama boy here now.
For an Alabama boy it is frigid.
It is. Might as well be zero.
Yeah.
And I needed a jacket and I did not get.
(22:00):
One less than I was in Vegastwo weeks ago for a work trip.
Humblebrag. Oh, yeah.
Well, you know it.
Yeah.
And, the desert gets cold.
But let me tell you,I don't know if it's
just that there's moisture in the airin the south
getting close to do anything.
Close, doing some imaginary science, I.
Think I am,I think I am, but it's it's
freezing here.
(22:21):
It's the humidity, right?
Yes, it has to be. It has, it has to.
Yeah.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
I don't either.
A lot of people say,hey, they'll ask a question
and my confidence is likea 12 out of ten on it.
And I'm just like, boom, answer got it?
They go, are you sure? I go, no, no.
My personality trait,I think, is why I ended up in the seat
that I'm currently sitting in isI just make a snap judgment
(22:43):
on anything immediately.
And then that's the wholeI'm down on period.
Yeah.
It doesn't matterhow knowledgeable
I am on the subject, that's who I am.
And at my core.
Do we have time for one last story?
Of course. Please bring it on.
You can say no.
I mean, if I.
If I can say yesand then I'll just cut it later.
Okay.
So young development officer.
I'm out in Houston, Texaswith, David Maddox and Rob Wellbaum
(23:05):
and I'm a I'm a business major.
Name drop. Man. Yeah, you drop the mic.
And so I'm,I've engaged this Auburn parent,
and this Auburn parentruns a manufacturing
engineering firm in the oiland gas industry in Houston.
Obviously, that makes a lot of sense.
And we're going throughand it's just like all technical.
And what this company doesis they take, a drill
(23:27):
and they take a plot of land or areawhere they think there's oil
and they go downand they use all these gyro thingamajig
and they map it out.
And through their technology,they can say,
with a degree of certainty,we believe that you're going to be able
to source this amount ofoil from this specific area.
(23:48):
So they're explaining this to us.
And he, the parent, has told us about,this specific drill, that
and how it works.
And he's kind of get a model outand he's, you know,
got it in his handsand shown us how it works.
And my confidence that leads me astraysometimes goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it like it does thisthis this and this and this.
(24:10):
And this guy was kind of,you know, a a bigger guy, very muscular.
He looks at me just dead serious.
Not even kind of a disclaimer.
No.
And Rob Well, Rob Wellbaumthat that story happened ten years ago.
Rob Wellbaum to this day,loves to remind me of that story.
When I open up my mouth too soon.
(24:33):
The a that is a beautiful.
Yeah. You're just confident.
Yeah. It's it's not a bad thing. No.
Well, I just want to say, you know,thank you for joining us.
Thank you for having ended upnot being as abbreviated as we.
So there you go.
We managed to. Stretch it out.
Anything you want.
It will not hurt my feelings.
No. It is.
Okay. Well, thank you for joining us.
Thank you for what you do for Auburn.
Thank you. All.
And I appreciate yousharing, your stories with us today.
(24:55):
Yeah. Hey, shout out to you all.
This is a good thing.
Appreciate you alltaking it upon yourself to make
make it a thing.
We have to think creativelyabout how we engage
and communicate with our Auburn family.
And you guys put on that hair every day.
Grateful.
Well, hey,you know, next time we have a scheduling
mishap, we'll get you in as well.
I'll say yes, I love it.
(25:15):
Perfect, perfect.
Well, thank you for tuning into another episode of Everything Auburn.
We want to givea special shout out to WEGL
for allowing us to use their spaceonce again.
We hope that all of you have a safeand happy holiday season.
And War Eagle. War Eagle War Eagle
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