Episode Four: Danny and Michael

This episode is dedicated to the lives of the two brave men that were killed on October 24, 2014. 

Episode Transcript

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I'm Ken Bader, your producer and host. That's
that's part of the problem. Because you always
think you have another day. You always think
you have more time with that person
to share and to, you know,
extend the Lord's love,
then you don't. I mean, every opportunity you
get, you should because

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I thought I had more time and I
didn't.
Because,
unfortunately,
evil crept in that day
and took him from all of us.
That's about where we left off in episode
3,
with our story.
From October

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14, 2014,
there's
frankly a ton of the story
left to tell even from that day and
beyond.
But one of the things that I found
in
true crime, especially true crime podcasts,
not every

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show does a really good job
of telling us about the victims.
We dig into the crime. We dig into
the perpetrator,
the suspect, the killer, whoever you wanna call,
Bracamantes.
We just call them evil.
But we don't really dig into

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the victim and who
he or she was
in there are a lot of victims in
the story.
2 police officers
were murdered.
The the first one, Danny Oliver.
And I wanna take some time
to dig into who Danny Oliver was

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and exactly what was taken away,
from
Danny Oliver and Danny Oliver's family.
Let's go back
to Scott Brown
talking about his
beginning of his career
and his introduction to Danny and and allow
him to share some stories about Danny Oliver.

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Some football buddies talked me into joining the
sheriff's academy. Had no idea what I wanted
to do. Didn't even think about being a
cop.
Went through the academy.
Ended up getting hired full time out of
the academy. I was, top 10, top gun,
that kind of thing.
Got hired, and then
did, the normal thing, you know, worked in
our jail for about three and a half

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years,
was a jail training officer,
cert team,
gang intel, that kind of stuff, and then
rolled out to patrol.
And then when I was out in patrol,
that's when I got to meet Danny and
Daryl and Darren and,
James and a whole bunch of other people.
At the time, when I rolled out, Citrus

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Heights PD,
was a contract city with the sheriff's department,
but then they ended up becoming their own
city with their own PD.
And that's, Danny made the decision to come
back and stay,
with the sheriff's department,
and that's, where we all met. We were
all on graveyards together.
Sergeant Guerrero, my who ended up being our
pop sergeant, was our sergeant at the time,

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and we had a blast. It was a
great time. We were,
you know, running around, cleaning up the streets,
fighting crime, the whole deal,
bunch of goofballs, and had a great time
doing it. Just nothing else in the world
I would have thought of doing at the
time.
The budget hit and crisis hit in 09,
a whole bunch of other stuff.

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Anyway, during that time, Danny had ended up
going to the pop team. I came back
out,
and then Danny
bugged me and bugged me and bugged me
to go to the pop team. He kept
telling me how awesome it was, but he
was having a hard time convincing me because
I was on graveyard. There was no super
well, not no. But there were, you know,
lack of administration out there.
You know, it was dark. All the weird

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stuff happened at night. You could go to
Pursuit without getting code forward real easy, all
the other fun stuff. Right?
But he eventually talked me into it. And
then once he talked me into the pop
team,
I had to be his partner,
and he promised he told me that I
wasn't allowed to put in for any assignments
or promote or anything like that
because I was gonna be his partner until

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he retired in about three and a half
years.
And I was having so much fun on
the top team that was not an issue
for me at all. I was like, yep.
Nope. I can do this for the next
couple of years. I'm good.
Danny, on the other hand, had a totally
different upbringing than I did.
Danny was the only child of a blended
family. So his father was a marine and

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a firefighter,
and,
each each of them had kids separately, but
Danny was the only one together.
He grew up in Del Paso Heights, went
to Grant High School, which is not,
let's say it's a it's a rougher neighborhood.
Let's put it that way. It's a rougher
neighborhood in Sacramento,
And,

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you know, he had to he had to
fight for what he got. Let's put it
that way. But, you know, he grew up,
made him tough, and everything like that. And
then after graduation
from high school, he ended up going into
trucking with his brother.
He'd tell me stories about driving over to
Reno and chains and the whole deal.
Well, while he was doing that,
him and Sue got pregnant with Missy, and

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that's when he decided he had to get
something a little more stable, benefits, all that
stuff. And
so he went to the academy.
Sue tells it, like, he wasn't the most
physical guy
or the top of his class, but he
was the one that brought everybody together. They'd
have study groups and everything like that,
which I can totally picture.
And then,

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and then they had, Jenny about 12 years
later. They had Missy,
wanted to have more kids, and tried and
tried tried.
And then it just didn't work. Right? So
they kinda given up.
And then Jenny happened 12 years later. And,
I remember him telling me
quite often that it was like having 2
only children because they were so far apart.

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But he was very proud of both of
them. I mean, when you work with a
guy and you spend
8, 10, 12 hours with them, and you're
watching each other's back, or you're doing an
observation or some sort of operation where you're
in a van,
you talk. Right? And you talk about everything.
And he used to talk about how proud
he was of both his girls. He was
proud of Missy, and she would he would
always he'd tell me over and over again

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about her mission trip to Costa Rica
and how she packed this rolling suitcase. And
he remembers seeing either picture
of her, like, wading across the river holding
this roller bag above her head, but she
did it.
And, he was very proud of her for
that. He loved Jenny and how smart she
was, and he'd get so frustrated that she
would do her homework, but then she'd never

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turn it in.
And he'd be like, you did it. Why
did you turn it in? And she'd be
like, I don't know. And it would just
drive him crazy, but he was proud how
smart she was.
As an officer, he was a training officer.
He was one of our
EVOC instructors, which is one of our driving
instructors,
and then the pop team.
He actually turned down a promotion to sergeant

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to stay on the pop team because he
was having so much fun. He realized that's
kinda where he wanted to end his career
was there.
He was a no nonsense guy. He was
one of those dudes, if you screwed up,
he would tell you. He was, you know,
direct.
And you either liked him or you didn't.
Those were the two options. There was not
much in between there, but he definitely had
respect among the department.

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And
I liked his directness, and him and I
got along great.
And that's that was one of the reasons
why I loved being his partner.
He was also kind of the center of
our social group for the the department or
for our little group for patrol and even
pop.
You know, we'd we'd he was the one
organizing trips and get togethers. We'd go to

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Tahoe. We'd go to Reno.
He'd have parties in his backyard, and he
was always inviting everybody.
And he was the one that was organizing
most of it.
One of the fun things I do remember
was, he invited me to a golf tournament,
and I had to explain to him how
bad I am at golf. I mean,
if I finish a round and I still
have the same ball, I consider that a

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win.
I've never broken a 100,
although I can say I've gotten a legitimate
hole in one once.
Anyway, he invites me to this golf tournament
as the 4th, saying that he was gonna
basically say I was part of the company,
because his wife owned a company, and it
was a a golf tournament that they were
entering.
And so it was Danny, it was Sue,
and then some kid that had played college

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golf before, and then me.
And
we both sucked. And
every hole was sponsored by a different company,
and each hole had boos on it. And
by the, I would say, 13th hole,
I think we pretty much were starting to
not even really play golf anymore, but we
had a blast. And one of my favorite
pictures of all time on me and Danny

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is from that tournament,
and we're both standing there. And I have
a golf ball in my mouth, and we're
hammered and just had a blast.
And, no, we did not drive home. Luckily,
we had somebody else to drive us, so
that was great.
The other one was a camping trip. We
went to, it was about a month before
he was killed. We went to Alima, which
is on the California coast,

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and, you know, we all showed up. My
parents actually came, and they were in their
5th wheel, and Danny was and Sue and,
Jenny were in their giant RV. I mean,
it was like a tour bus. It was
amazing.
And then Liz and I were the slums
that were tent camping with a little baby.
Horrible idea.
But, I remember getting there and setting up

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and
having a campfire, and we're all sitting around
and, you know, the the girl's got a
glass of wine, and I think Danny and
I each had a whiskey. And we're just
sitting around talking around a campfire.
And all of a sudden, the RV starts
up.
Danny goes flying in there and sees my
middle son just with a shitting grin on
his face, proud of himself that he had
started the RV.

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And he didn't get mad or anything like
that. He just decided that maybe we'd take
the keys out of it this next time.
And he did great with the kids, and
we it was it was great memories. He
he was fun with my family and,
you know, Susan to this day still remembers
Brandon starting the RV and and says, how's
my little Brandon? He's not little anymore. He's,
like, 5, 10,

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you know, as a a 12 year old.
He's huge. But, anyway,
so that was another great one.
And then helping them move to their retirement
home. Like like I said, they they moved
out of El Dorado Hills and,
moved up there, and it was their their
place. It was a smaller place, but the
property was big. It had,
like, a horse,
arena, which he they do a little horse.

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They were planning on getting some horses, but
he wanted to turn it into a little
go kart buggy racing
thing,
because he loved to race. And then it
had a detached garage with, like, car lifts
in it because he had a couple classic
cars he loved to work on,
and he was planning on working on those
and had stables. And like I said, they
had plans to get a couple horses and
just
it was an amazing property.

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Unfortunately,
after everything happened, Sue stayed there for a
little while, but then she ended up moving
because she just couldn't stay in the property
after that, which I don't blame her. I
mentioned
podcasts,
and
some of them obviously do an awesome job
of highlighting the the victims
and survivors in some cases.

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And while there are some
media outlets,
some news channels that,
that are
cop friendly or at least are not anti
cop
do justice
to the end of watch
story about an officer that loses their life
and and talks about their family.

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But I also know that there's only so
much time in a newscast.
So
one of the beauties of podcasting
is we have the time and the luxury
to go a little bit deeper.
So before we get back to the story
of
October 14, 2014,

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Let's
hear from one of Danny's daughters, Missy.
Tell us about that.
Man. There's so much you can say about
him now.
I like to first start off by just
some words that remind me of him.
You know, once I describe him, I would
say are wise,
compassionate,

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prankster.
What else do we got? We got
creative. He was super creative.
You know, in terms of wiseness, he always
had some sort of advice to give. He
was really good at if you had problem,
you could talk to him. He'd always give
you
some some piece of advice, whether it was

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small or little. And, that was for anybody.
That was for me, my sibling,
any family member, Scott, I'm sure.
In terms of humble, he always did things
that were
he never looked for recognition.
Anything that he did, whether it was with
the family or out in public or on

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the job, he didn't look for recognition. That's
not what he was in it for. He
was in it just to help people that
needed help.
In terms of creativity, he always liked working
on projects.
He helps me as a kid growing up.
You know, any type of art project, he
was very artistic. Like, he might not look
like the kind of guy that's artistic. He

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was a big old dude with bald head
and scary, but
he was super creative. He would do
all the work around the house.
Just knew how to do anything. There was
nothing he couldn't do,
and it was incredible when he looked back
at it.
And the compassion,
he just

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he cared about his family. You know? His
family came first no matter what.
And so that was really important to him.
Because it seemed like he had a real
soft side. You have to give tell us
what are what are your favorite stories growing
up about your dad? Oh my gosh. 1?
Might have to do a couple. You do
a second. You do a second. We got
time.

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I think as a kid,
some of my one of my favorite memories,
and this is what I like to tell
a lot of people, is,
we were both big fans of WWE wrestling.
It was, like, our thing. We'd watch it
like crazy, and it wasn't just that. It
was, like,
we would literally recreate
the scenes. Like, we would be, like, jumping

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off the couch and jumping off the bed.
I would jump, like, on him,
and it was just and he would, like,
lift me up, and I pretend I had
a chair, and I'd be like
and then we would try to, you know,
pin each other to obviously win the match.
And he would always,
you know, he would never let me quite
win.
He would always make it, you know, tough

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because I'd obviously, he's a big dude. So,
of course, he's gonna win.
But I remember he would always go 1,
2,
3, and just, like, get so freaking excited.
And then we had, like, a fake belt.
And we were like, if you were the
champion, you got to, you know, show it
off and wear it around. And it was
fun.
So that was that's probably one of my

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favorite memories. One of the ones that I
got.
Oh, man. Another fun one. Obviously, it's such
a I feel like a cop thing for
some reason.
But,
a Nerf gun fights. We did those all
the time in the house.
There was 1 year, probably just a couple
years before he died.
After Thanksgiving, everyone else had gone home, and

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it was just me, my mom,
my sibling,
and then my husband, my boyfriend at the
time. And it was just us, and we
all he just slowly starts to pick up
the gun, and, like, we all see it,
and we're like, oh, it's on.
We're like, it's on.
So we all get them, and there's just
absolute chaos. We have our 2 dogs that

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are running around and barking,
and everyone's just running through all the doors
and trying to, like, run upstairs and downstairs.
And it was just so much fun. And
I remember I'm so glad I in the
chaos, I I snapped a photo.
And I have a picture of my dad,
like, reloading.
And then my mom's running, and she's blurred.

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And it's just and the dogs are, like,
all jumping. And my husband's in the picture,
and it's just it's it's gold.
So that's another good one.
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As terrible and as devastating
as it was that we lost one officer
On October 14, 2014,
that would be
definitely bad enough,

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but we were unfortunate enough to lose 2
officers
on that day.
Michael Davis junior.
Quote from Ed Bonner.
They engaged evil for your peace,
for your tranquility.
That's who Michael Davis was. That's who my
Danny Oliver was.

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That's who all these people are. Peace officers.
So Brockmanes
was heading up 80, Interstate 80,
in the stolen truck at this point.
And, that's when Janelle looked up at one
of the blue alert signs. A blue alert
is one of those, like, amber alert signs
only with
a blue alert. It's when it involves an

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officer.
They're right around new Newcastle, and they saw
this sign, and Janelle told,
Luis that, hey. Our truck's on that sign.
We need to get it off here. So
they bailed off the freeway around Newcastle,
and that's when they started to get lost.
They didn't know where they were at.
Around that time,
the SWAT team was just cleaning out, clearing

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out the room at the motel 6.
They'd already cleaned out the room, by the
time we had contacted them, Danny and I,
so there wasn't much in there.
And then there was multiple sightings,
whole bunch of people calling in claiming they
had seen the guy after starting to watch
the news. And then there was a really
detailed sighting
near a street kid called Van Alstyne.

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It was a
female, larger, Hispanic male, a truck.
So everybody was heading that way. Well, while
all our team was heading to that,
Mike and Moose,
Mike Davis, Mike Simmons, who they call Moose,
they were just finishing, their they were just
about ready to go to lunch.

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They've been partners for a long time, shit
magnets type thing. They just wanted to finish
up some paperwork because they had a
really busy week.
Mike,
had been on for 26 years at that
point.
And,
ironically, that was the same day that his

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father was killed.
26 years to the day,
in Riverside PD in a helicopter crash.
So, you know, Mike was kinda out of
it that day. He, you know, recognized what
day it was. Moose recognized that he was
out of it. So, like I said, they
were just planning on kinda chilling that day,
catch up on paperwork. They saw the news,

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and they move they knew it was heading
that way.
So Mike said, hey. I'm gonna go grab
some food,
or Moose decided, he's gonna go grab some
food.
Mike Davis stayed at the station.
Pretty much as soon
as Moose left the station house, there was
radio that the suspects were in the area.
As this was all happening,

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that's when Daryl was contacted by a member
of our department
telling him that he needed to notify Susan.
He knew that she was out of town,
and and he didn't know what to do.
He was on his way to UC Davis.
He didn't know how to get ahold of
her,
and he was feeling like like he was

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letting everybody down because he had this job
to do
with no way to do it. I mean,
he had absolutely no way to get a
hold of her.
Now,
again, at the same time, I know we're
bouncing back and forth, but what you gotta
understand is this day was a crazy day.
So if we go in chronological order,
we have to bounce back and forth. So

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around that time,
Janelle and Luis
had gotten lost in the neighborhood,
and they decided they needed to change the
plates out on their car, so they pull
up in front of the house and they're
starting to switch out the cars. Well,
lucky for us lucky for,
you know, his capture anyway
the house that he pulled up in front

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of him was a retired CHP officer who
was sitting on his front porch drinking some
coffee listening to KFBK which is a local
news radio station
that was given updates of what was happening
in Sacramento with all descriptions. Well, he looks
out, he sees Louis and
Monroy changing the plates on the car, and
he knew immediately who it was and what
was going on. So he called 911 to

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update
Placer County and Auburn PD
as to what was going on. Well, at
the same time,
Mike Davis's brother, Jason Davis, he was home.
He put up pulled an all nighter almost.
He was exhausted.
His wife heard what was happening in Sacramento,
woke him up, let him know, and told
him to kinda start getting ready because the
odds are he was gonna get called out

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at the time. He was a shooter for
the SWAT team up there in Placer County,
so he kinda got rolled out of bed,
started getting ready in general.
Well, while he was doing that, Placer had
gotten the call from the CHP officer.
So officers Bardot and Roselli,
got up there and started searching the area,
updated locations.

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While they were doing that,
the Luis pulled up right in front of
him,
and then backed up at a high rate
of speed, parked by the BMW.
And then as soon as he
got out of the car, he immediately started
shooting
at Bardot and Roselli.
The owner, of course, from the house ran

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inside. He didn't have a way to defend
himself.
Bardot started taking the fire. It was going
by him. He could felt the rounds.
You know, he rolled out of his car
because he was shoot they were shooting at
the car.
Roselli pulled up behind. They started exchanging gunfire
at that point.
Brockman has got the rifle out

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and started shooting at him.
It was almost a crossfire kind of situation
because of the way they'd all rolled out
of the car.
So once Roselli got to the back of
the car,
Brockman has,
had gotten into their their patrol car.
The one of the patrol cars had rolled
forward, and Brock Moniz was able to get
into that car, the patrol car, and take

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off.
You know, they they had bailed down, took
some cover, had exchanged fire.
When he took off in the car, they,
Bardot gave out radio traffic saying shots fired,
and then he took a patrol car. But,
unfortunately,
because of where they were at, they were
up in the hills. It was horrible radio
traffic.
Not on their part, but on the the

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radio system in general
that a lot of units heard,
shots fired pursuit,
but they didn't hear that they'd taken a
patrol car. That that that traffic didn't quite
make it out because of other people talking
and other things.
Moose and, Mike, you know, heard what was
going on, so they both head to that
area,

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said that they were gonna meet up
and not to do anything,
until they arrived.
While they were, while they were waiting up
there or while they were meeting up there,
that's when,
they met up,
and
the patrol car went whizzing by him. But

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they didn't see who was inside,
and they'd heard pursuit, and so they, you
know, immediately assumed it was one of their
guys
chasing the suspect.
So they got him behind him. Moose, Davis,
Jeff Davis, and another
guy got in behind him
and started following him. About this time is

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when, Daryl arrived at UC Davis with his
wife and his brother,
and somebody said, you know, hey. You know,
what's going on? And it was one of
their friends that they knew, one of their
relatives, I believe, and he said, hey. Take
me to go see Danny.
Well, they went inside, and
they didn't realize what he was doing, but
he took him,

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like, directly into Danny. Like, all of a
sudden, he's standing in a room with Danny
there and
homicide detectives, and he realized he didn't he
shouldn't be there. So he left the room,
and,
at that point, he was told that everybody
had been notified. So,
you know, the weight was off his shoulders
to notify, but also now the guilt that
that was his job and and he didn't
get a chance to do it. And I

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under the circumstances were such that there's no
way he could've, but, you know, Danny was
his friend, and that was his job, and
he didn't get a chance to do the
notification. And I know it ate away at
him.
This time, our SWAT team was notified that
Placer County was, you know, directly involved in
a shooting with our suspect. So
them, our helicopter,

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k 9, pretty much everybody in our area,
and beyond started heading to that area.
So once,
Mike and Moose got to the area, like
I said, they saw a patrol car go
by.
They thought it was,
the one of their guys chasing the suspect.
So
Moose jumped in behind it, chasing it. They
were, you know, pretty much bumper to bumper.

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They pulled into a,
cul de sac,
and,
you know, as they pulled in, they saw
the flash of they saw the AR shooting.
They saw the flash from the patrol car,
but they, again, they didn't know that it
wasn't a cop. They couldn't tell because of
the chaos of the scene and the gunfire,
so they weren't necessarily looking at the cop
cop car. They were looking around to see

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who's where's our guy shooting at? Who's he
trying to get to? Right?
And,
unfortunately, while they were trying to figure that
out, you know, they're taking rounds, but they
can't figure out where they're coming from because
like I said,
they're not seeing it. Right? Well, Jeff Davis
was
out of the car and he remembers looking
over at Mike and seeing him jerk.

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And then and then at that time, Jeff
Davis took immediate cover because he was taking
fire as well.
Moose took cover, he was drawn down, but,
again, he wasn't sure where the shots coming
from.
He saw a set of arms coming up
from behind the bush, so he thought it
was the suspect. So he started walking over,
gun drawn, thinking he was gonna
take this guy down.

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And then, that's when, he realized it wasn't.
It was one of the homeowners,
who when the shooting started taking cover in
one of the bushes.
So he told him to get out of
there and and, you know, get to a
safe place.
Jeff Davis, a lot of Davis', I know.
A lot of Jeff was going from the
car, and,
he he all of a sudden realized, you

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know, the shots were coming from the patrol
car.
But about that same time, he was hit.
He got hit in the holster, and, he
took some, fragment rounds or fragments from a
round
in his hand. And that's when he yelled,
I'm hit. I'm hit.
The same time,
you know, a couple other guys were back
at the truck. They heard the shots fire

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coming from down the cul de sac. And
when that happened, they saw a set of
hands come up from the truck that they
left behind.
They didn't know anybody was in there at
the time. And so, obviously,
you know, that got their attention.
They called the person out.
Turns out, they they didn't realize it, but
Monroy was still in the truck.
Got her out, got her detained.

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Tried to get the name of, Luis, and
she told him Luis.
They also found a gun. That was the
gun that was in her purse that she
never she never used, but there was a
gun in her purse when she got detained
at that time.
Additional started arriving at this point. This the
shots were still being fired.

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You know,
several units,
saw Mike,
you know, but they didn't they didn't know
he'd been hit, and Jeff had been hit
at this time. So one of the units
pulled Jeff out and and extracted him from
the scene,
in his, patrol truck. They backed out, took
him to the firehouse so he could start
getting treatment.

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About this time,
that's when Mike got hit.
He saw
Mike spin around and then fall to his
knees
and then fall on his belly,
you know, toes to the ground.
The same time, Luis ran out of ammo
at the time. He left the rifle,
ripped the shotgun out of the patrol car,
and then took off,

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took off out of the out of the
driveway of the house.
Deputy Mitch, Rich Gray showed
up, and that's when Mike told him, hey.
Or Moose told him, Mike's been hit. Mike's
been hit. Rolled him over.
Saw blood coming out of his nose and
his mouth, and his eyes were ashy.
Moose like me,
he knew pretty quick. He knew what was

(30:32):
going on, but
he wasn't gonna give up on his buddy.
He started pleading with him, you know, tried
to get Mike,
into the back of his charger,
but the back seat was full.
Mike was they kinda shoved him in there
trying to get him out of the scene
because, again, they didn't
know Brockmanis had fled.
The goal was to throw him in the
back of the car and get him to

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the landing zone where the helicopter was en
route.
As they were heading there,
Mike was stopped by,
another officer who they got Mike out of
the back, put him on the the hood
of the patrol car,
no pulse, and they started doing CPR.
They'd already taken off his
gun belt and some other stuff.

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They couldn't really find the hit, the bullet
hole.
But they, you know, they had a small
one, but, you know, like I said, they
they didn't realize what had happened. But,
the bullet had entered through his side, missed
his vest,
and,
vertically pretty much, you know, cut everything inside
of him in half as it as it
went through. So

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their CPR wasn't
wasn't gonna do any good, but they didn't
know that. And and, you know, you see
one of your fellow officers
bleeding and dying. You're not gonna stop no
matter what. You're you're gonna go until somebody
till you either fall out physically
or until somebody
pulls you off of them.
So like I said, they put them on
the hood of the car, and they started

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heading towards,
the helicopter where it was supposed to be
landing.
They're driving up the street with,
CPR being done on the hood of the
car with Moose driving.
Crazy. It's amazing. Nobody got hurt or flew
off the hood of that car.
As they got to the landing zone, they
jumped over a whole bunch of curbs and,
CHP officer and flight paramedic, Jimmy Hendrix, was

(32:17):
there.
He took a look at him, saw what
was going on, realized that the helicopter wasn't
gonna be an option because of the CPR
and then the stuff that needed to get
done. There just wasn't gonna be enough room.
So they they called and they had to
wait for the medic,
which was 16 miles away at the time.
I'm sure it felt like an eternity.

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So Jimmy started doing CPR, and and up
at this time, Mike, you know, was,
you know, flashing back. I'm sure as as
and then the medic showed up. I'm sorry.
The medic showed up. They got him put
into the medic, and Mike Moose and Jimmy
Hendrix jumped in with the medic,
and started driving him to the hospital. And
they were doing CPR. And and at this
time, Moose started flashing back to when he

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was a sergeant with Rockland PD.
And one of his,
partners and and
subordinates at the time, Matt Redding, had gotten
hit by intentionally run over by a DUI
driver.
Moose had been one of the first on
the scenes, and
he felt like it was Matt dying all
over again. Matt didn't make it.
You know, Jimmy was trying to get him

(33:20):
out of it, telling him to hold the
bag,
talk to Mike, you know, talk to him.
He knows your voice. He knows your voice.
Talk to him as Jimmy was doing CPR.
And then, you know, as Moose kinda snapped
out of it,
he said, let me help. Let me help.
I need to help. I'm not a I'm
not a child. So Moose jumped
on CPR for a little while.
And, that's when they asked, you know, are

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his pupils fixed, which a lot of us
know,
means no brain activity and then that they're
gone for the most part.
They said they were,
and Mike, at that point, said, oh my
god. I gotta tell his wife. I gotta
tell his wife.
Hendrix took over on CPR. And at that
point, Hendrix, who,
in his words, he'd been able to separate

(34:02):
the emotion and the the humanness of these
kind of scenes
in the past,
which he needed to do and what he
was doing. But at this point,
when Moose said that all of a sudden,
you know, Mike became a father and a
husband and a brother and a and a
everything, and it came crashing down on Jimmy.
Of course, he continued his CPR. He didn't
didn't let it stop him from doing his

(34:24):
job, but it tore him apart.
They got to the hospital,
in the ER. Moose was covered in Mike's
blood.
One thing I need to
point out
is the producer
and editor of this podcast
about
the audio from Scott Brown, especially

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what you just heard,
is
there were a lot
of pauses,
and I don't blame him,
to recount,
in essence, the the murder of a fellow
officer.
There were a lot of pauses
in Scott Brown's recount
of the portion of that day and

(35:07):
Michael
Davis being killed by Bracamontes
on October 14, 2014.
So
I just want to
really drive home
the emotion
involved
in doing this podcast
because I know that I feel it personally,

(35:29):
and I wasn't there.
And, unfortunately,
I never got to know
either
Danny Oliver
or Michael Davis.
So I can only imagine
what it was like
for Scott
and many of our interviewees
to have to go back to to that

(35:50):
day.
But let's close-up
episode 4
with one last story from
Missy,
Danny Oliver's
daughter. Oh, UNO. That was a good one.
That's a good one. Our UNO games Our
UNO games.
Those were intense.
They so an UNO game should last you,

(36:10):
what,
15, 20 minutes maybe? Ours went for about
90 minutes.
It was probably, like, 10 of us sitting
around the table after a holiday dinner,
and
this is actually a good one.
So we put
I think it was grandma in this on
at the head of a table with a

(36:31):
big mirror behind her.
And my dad was sitting probably,
like, right across from me like this. So
when it someone gets down to 1 UNO
card, right,
none of us want them to win. All
of us were like, no. Like, what do
you got? Use it against them.
There may there was talk that people traded
things under the table, like me and my
dad, but that never happened,

(36:53):
ever.
But,
so we're getting down and and grandma's down
to one card, his mom.
And
she's behind a big mirror or in front
of a big mirror. Dad can see
her car.
So he looks at me, and I'm sitting
next to her, and he's, like, across from
me, like I said. And it's a yellow

(37:15):
card. And what he does is someone's wearing
a yellow shirt,
and he opens his eyes really wide at
the shirt color.
And it's like and I'm like,
I got you.
And so then I put down I don't
remember what I put down, but something to
make sure she didn't win.
And so,
yeah, these games went on for

(37:36):
stupid amounts of time. Was grandma pissed?
I don't even know if she knew.
Like, she knows now because we told her.
But in the moment, I don't think she
knew, but me and my dad were just
red from laughter when it happened. So
that's another that was a good one. That
was a good remember. Yeah.

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