Step into the workshop of wonder with First Look Gnomes! In this episode, we explore the power of innovation — from the cutting-edge AI Sora to the roaring nostalgia of Cornish steam engines and 90s car rallies. Join our gnome hosts as we uncover how creativity connects generations — including fun, hands-on LEGO building tips for dads and families.
Discover how technology, engineering, and imagination come together in this feel-good mix of old-school mechanics and futuristic thinking. Perfect for makers, parents, and curious minds who love learning something new every week.
Two dads tumble from 90s nostalgia into a candid look at AI’s new power to fake reality, then anchor back to earth with a steam rally, a heritage train, and practical Lego tips for parents. Trust, patience, and small rituals tie it all together with humour.
• MTV and VH1 memories and how music TV changed
• Sora’s photoreal text-to-video and why it unsettles us
• Deepfakes, verification limits, and trust erosion
• Simple heuristics for spotting AI content and their expiry
• Creativity, ethics, and AI relationships in the real world
• First Bite: 'The Curators" - Pork puffs verdict and nutrition chat
• Steam engine rally, 90s “classic” cars, and feeling old
• Heritage museum trains, gnomes, and hands-on charm
• Lego skyscraper build, organisation, and patience
• Tips for Dads! Parenting tip: praise effort over outcomes
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SPEAKER_02 (00:29):
I died before episode eight.
At least episode seven, I canskate.
Cause right now I know I can'tdo jack.
Without the man up on my back.
At least seven four season four,episode seven, we can pod.
SPEAKER_04 (00:49):
Way! I thought there was gonna be something else
there.
I thought you were gonna go intothe whole like No verse.
SPEAKER_02 (00:57):
Very good.
Who sung that song?
Uh I can't remember now.
Is uh nineties, what is it?
90s, 2000s.
Yeah, die before a week.
SPEAKER_04 (01:08):
Talks about Jesus doing these balls.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
I can skate.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:12):
I can't remember who sung that.
Usually I'd be able to get that,but I can't remember.
Weezer?
Weezer?
Is that right?
No, it wasn't Weezer.
No.
Ah, we'll remember.
Some point over the next coupleof episodes we'll just out.
Oh, it was such and such.
Do you remember?
SPEAKER_02 (01:27):
Another throwback to the nineties, like the last
episode.
SPEAKER_04 (01:30):
We did do a lot of talking about the nineties last
time, didn't we?
SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
It's been a while since the last episode.
Because I was a bit a bitpoorly, wasn't I?
SPEAKER_04 (01:38):
Oh, you were poorly sick.
It cancelled on me, ladies andgentlemen.
We were meant to be doing anepisode.
SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
And I was a bit poorly.
A bit poorly.
SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
How are you feeling now?
Are you back to full strength?
Well no.
SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
What was a weer?
Just a bad cold.
And or maybe the vid, who knows?
But uh yeah, so I lost my voicea little bit.
Then I got better, but then liketwo days ago, my cold came back
really badly.
SPEAKER_04 (02:04):
Now I'm still a bit throat, but I don't know.
You still got a bit of a throat.
Imagine imagine you losing yourvoice.
Usually you're so chatty most ofthe time.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
Yes, yes.
I also I also have a concondition where I can't stop
telling airport jokes.
My doctor says it's terminal.
But I sent you a nice voicemail,I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
You did you sent me send me one of those ones where
you sound all sexy?
Like, hello.
Hello.
Um Williams, you mentioned the90s.
Did you see the news that MTVhas like they've did they've
axed all of the shows in the inthe UK, all the channels in the
UK now?
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
So at the end of this year, it was massive,
wasn't it?
I mean music videos weremassive.
SPEAKER_04 (02:49):
They were.
Do you remember like I rememberwhen we were like teenagers just
sitting and watching like thebox and MTV and it was all like
Britney Spears and Destiny'sChild, just music videos, and
then they started going offpiste a little bit and started
doing cribs and all that sort ofstuff.
SPEAKER_02 (03:08):
Yeah, Pit My Ride.
Yeah, Pit My Rides, and then thebasically wasn't music anymore,
was it?
It was just No TV.
SPEAKER_04 (03:16):
So that's what they're still gonna do.
So the MTV is staying with allthe reality TV, but all the like
MTV dance, MTV hits, they're alldisappearing.
Outrageous decision.
I mean, saying that I haven'twatched it in years, because I
guess we're YouTube and V is itvivo and stuff.
People people can shoot musicvideos different these days,
don't they?
SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
What was the other channel that was a bit more
older audience, but kind of V atthe same time?
V E V V Oh Flip Me.
It was one of those like an MTVwhich was like the where we were
cool young teenagers.
Oh, what was it?
It was like the older ones.
It was a V VH VHS.
SPEAKER_04 (03:59):
It was like it was like VHS, so like VMA or
something.
I've got it, VH1.
VH1, it was VH1.
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
I don't know, VH1.
VH1, not VHS.
Yeah, as I say, yeah, I'mthinking of VHS, but yeah, it
was V1.
You were close though.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (04:11):
VH1, yeah.
VH1, UK and Ireland.
SPEAKER_02 (04:14):
Was it VH2 as well?
SPEAKER_04 (04:16):
There there probably was.
Yeah.
Now, who sung the song grippingcontent as a first of those?
Yeah, sorry.
Okay, here we go.
Do you want me to tell you whoit was?
SPEAKER_02 (04:31):
We're dove and more from first looks to nostalgic uh
content, aren't we?
SPEAKER_04 (04:36):
Just two old guys chatting nonsense about the good
old days.
Oh, back in my day.
If you wanted to watch BritneySpears, you could text the
number and you get this crazyfrog on your phone.
And then you'd be able to watchand then you'd be able to watch
Destiny's Child in standarddefinition.
Oh I remember we went to goodold days.
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
We went on another lads on the Telerife and we did
karaoke, and then I just starteddoing the crazy frog.
I doubt you remember that, youdon't remember last episode.
SPEAKER_04 (05:06):
But I I remember I do remember because sometimes
you there was a lot of timeswe'd be out and you'd have one
too many and just start makingnoises.
I mean, you were the originalcrazy frog.
SPEAKER_03 (05:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (05:18):
You just evolved.
SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
The crazy frog just came from the days of people
used to pay for ringtones.
When was the last time you hearda ringtone?
SPEAKER_04 (05:30):
No one used everyone just has a ring there rather
than a ringtone.
I I remember spending hours onlike with one of the old school
phones where you'd make your ownringtones.
So like you go online and it'dsay, right, if you want the the
uh Superman theme tune, press11643476, and you put all these
(05:51):
numbers in, and eventually you'dhave this di di di di di that's
not the Su Man theme tune, isit?
The Su Man theme chain.
SPEAKER_02 (05:58):
Oh tune is that what was that one?
That was Night Riders.
SPEAKER_04 (06:04):
Oh yeah, not the Superman theme tune.
Su Man was the du rivetingcontent again.
Where's Night Riders?
SPEAKER_02 (06:15):
I think it's Ham James Bond, and then most people
do Mission Impossible or viceversa.
SPEAKER_04 (06:20):
Yeah, so I remember the John Williams challenge,
which was like that.
It was you need to kind of singthe Indiana Jones theme tune,
followed by the Star Wars themetune, followed by the Superman
theme tune, like back to back.
Oh wow, and it's like oh whichwhich ones with Indiana Jones is
like it's actually moredifficult than you and then you
have to kind of go into the StarWars one.
SPEAKER_03 (06:40):
That's tricky, I think.
SPEAKER_04 (06:44):
Anyway, yes.
People are gonna think we lost aplot, man.
So then you just only just comeon.
We're talking about using ourphones to make songs, songs that
we can't even rememberourselves.
And yeah, I was gonna tell youwho sung that other song, The
Heaven is a Halfpipe one.
It was OPM.
OPM.
SPEAKER_02 (07:00):
There we go.
SPEAKER_04 (07:01):
Back in the day, you may not have seen on VH1, but
you probably would have seenNTV, yeah.
That was it.
It's all gonna be it's all gonnabe three letters.
OPM, VH1, MTV.
Ah, fun, fun, fun.
Sorry, Wellems.
We just completely just went offon a tape.
SPEAKER_02 (07:20):
Apologies for the uh the late episode, and we've just
proved we've been unwell.
Did you want to sort of start ofyour first look, Sarchkiss?
SPEAKER_04 (07:29):
Oh, we just straight into a first look.
Okay, well we can do.
So this wasn't what I was gonnaoriginally talk about, but then
I saw it and I was like, oh, soprobably talk about it because
and apparently we've talked wetalk a lot about AI, and I can't
remember us ever talking aboutAI.
But there's a at least probablythere's an E1.
(07:52):
It's oh OpenAI who make Chat GPTum have released a new thing
called Sora.
S-O-R-A.
Alright, yes, yes, yes, yes,yes.
It's a text to video AI, and thevideos are photorealistic, and
they've added sounds now, so youcan give prompts and they put
the sounds in there, and it'sterrifying, and I hate it, I
(08:13):
hate everything about it.
And this is on the same day thatthe BBC this morning, I woke up,
I was reading the news as youdo, and there's a BBC verify
article, and I like the BBCVerify articles about the tech
billionaires who are all doomprepping.
And I was like, okay, so I wokeup this morning to okay, the
fact that that Mark Zuckerberg'sand the Jeff Bezos's of the
(08:38):
world are all kind of buyingmassive amounts of land in
places like New Zealand andbuilding massive underground
bunkers for the time where youknow Skynet takes over.
That's not a good sign.
It's not, and that's what itsaid.
That was the BBC verified, likethey're all doing this.
Should we be worried?
I'm like, of course we shouldpretty well be worried.
SPEAKER_02 (09:00):
Like if if the richest people in the world are
doing prepping, yeah, we're justgonna create all this AI sort of
stuff, but at the same time, I'mjust gonna build a bunker in the
middle of nowhere.
Yeah.
We're just gonna see whathappens.
Nothing to worry about.
SPEAKER_04 (09:12):
Exactly.
And you just think, so now we wealready have buildings.
SPEAKER_02 (09:17):
If you've got a few billion spare, don't worry,
you'll be fine.
SPEAKER_04 (09:21):
Yeah, you'll be fine.
You can go and hide undergroundfor the apocalypse.
But you also think it's notnecessarily the AI that I'm
worried about actually takingover, it's the human beings
using the AI.
So the Sora, it's incrediblewhat you can do with it.
Like you can you can you canbasically say, right, I want a
video of bomb dropping on Londonor something, and it can make it
(09:45):
so photorealistic that if you ifyou are you know if you are that
way inclined of the propagandastuff, you're gonna be able to
have a field day.
So it terrifies me because youthink, okay, so all of this, all
of the social media content ismonetized, so the more noise you
can make, the more uh shit youcan stir, the rich you can get.
(10:06):
So people are encouraged bymoney and greed.
It's an echo chamber, yeah.
But they're the content creatorsare encouraged to get themselves
rich by making content thateffectively pushes people's
buttons, causes debate andoutrage, and you know, just rage
baiting.
Uh and you've just given themthe tools to make it so much
(10:26):
more realistic.
Yeah.
And just so much you the amountof content that can be produced
so quickly by so many people cannever all be verified.
Because it can never be all thesame.
SPEAKER_02 (10:36):
There's so many fake videos at the moment out there
because of the algorithms andstuff, so there's loads of fake
videos, and they're there alwaysactors, and there's like the two
people having a massive argumentabout this, and then there's a
caption, was this person right?
And then you know you get thecomments like, oh, this is
clearly fake because the actingis terrible, etc.
etc.
But with the AI videos, theacting is probably better.
SPEAKER_04 (10:59):
Yeah, it absolutely is.
Well, this Sora, so SORA, theyrelease like a two and a half
minute video and it says likeeverything that you see and
hear, all voices, everything hasbeen created with Sora AI.
And it's like real people aretalking to you, and it you
cannot tell that you canobviously until the obvious bits
where it's like a dragon flyinginto a storm, you can tell it's
(11:20):
yeah, AI, because I don't thinkthere are dragons flying into
storms, but the bits of likewhere there's human beings
talking to the camera, it's sorealistic now.
Yeah, and the there's a newthing now with like AI actors
and actresses, and you think,okay, so if you want to make a
film doing AI, great.
So for for those kind of things,for people who've got low
budgets, they can create art inmany ways, yeah.
(11:42):
But it's creating art using allthe art that's actually been
created, that's come fromhumans.
So eventually it's gonna stifleall creativity because like you
can only plagiarize so much, andit just takes away the fun of
it, and it just it makes youmistrusting of everything, and I
I just hate it.
I I can see why it's beingpushed this way, but I really
(12:02):
kind of wish it wasn't.
SPEAKER_02 (12:04):
It's taking away some of the because even just
the the usual AI stuff in termsof research and stuff, so
obviously AI started with it'sjust gonna it basically
researches the whole internet ina millisecond and then sort of
uses information sort of and youknow spouts at their end the
answers.
But now because so many peopleare using AI to create uh
(12:24):
content, AI is searching theinternet internet for content
created by AI and it's justcirculating and it's like all
the fake news stuff out there,it's gonna just oh yeah, that's
content, it's just I don't know,it's like eating itself.
It's mad.
SPEAKER_04 (12:43):
Yeah, it's self-cannibalizing.
We we we just I don't know,we're creating a we're creating
a world where we're not gonnaknow who to trust, and when you
can't trust anybody or anything,that's when shit goes wrong.
So, you know, if you can't havetrust in your government, you
can't believe the things they'resaying, you can't believe the
things you're doing, you can'tbelieve the things you're seeing
on the the different channels.
(13:03):
Because again, there are thereare good people out there trying
to do good things like BBCverify who are trying to make
sure that if something goes out,they're verifying yes, this is
actually a true video or not.
And that's fantastic, but theythey're only you they can't do
it all, you can't police theworld.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
And with their own agendas about um basic guys are
actually they're probablyyounger than us actually, um
teaching theirs mums, whose mumsare probably our age, um how to
spot AI videos, which to behonest is probably already out
of date.
But there's some interestingsort of tips in there in terms
(13:40):
of uh to where people look attheir teeth because uh AI
doesn't uh have as muchinformation on people's teeth.
So you look at their teeth andyou can kind of tell if it's
real or not, or look in thebackground, look at signs and
sort of the wording on the signsand yeah, yeah, look or you know
(14:00):
the the clip if it's I can'tremember now, but say less than
20 seconds, and it goes 20seconds, 20 seconds, and it
probably is AI because it's somuch power to do a big scene.
So if it's less than that amountof time, it's probably AI.
But even that stuff is gonna atsome point disappear.
SPEAKER_04 (14:20):
It's gonna improve.
So like Google's new image one,nana nana, nana, banana banana
nana na na na or something,something like that.
Banana na na it's it's Google'slike video one, and they pride
themselves on being able togenerate text properly.
So you think there's all thesedifferent ones that are out that
are kind of solving the problemsquickly.
Yeah, they're not problems forlong, so how you would spot an
(14:41):
AI video before is already outof date.
And it's just before you knowit, something someone somewhere
is going, someone nefarious isgonna do something with it
that's gonna start a series ofevents that are gonna be like,
ah, and I love the fact that allthis technology is there to help
(15:01):
people diagnose things quickerand for helping all the good
things that it can do isincredible.
It's all the bad stuff.
I don't like the fact that it'screating so much content and
art.
I'm like, that's one of the goodthings about being a human, is
like painting a picture.
I want to paint a picture, Iwant brain to paint and colour
in and read books written byhumans and stories and create
(15:22):
stories.
Thank goodness AI can't gardenWilliams.
Like AI can't do my gardeningfor me.
Like, don't take away thepleasures of life.
Like mowing my lawn and cut mytree.
So, yeah, that's that's SoraWilliams.
S O R A.
Check it out.
I'd be interested to hear whatanyone out there who's got any
thoughts on AI thinks about it.
(15:42):
Is it a good thing?
Is it a bad thing?
Are we worried about nothing?
Should we all be terrified asthe tech billionaires are now
building their doom day uhapocalypse dooms doomsday
bunkers?
Are we all just doomed and weshould just enjoy the ride and
make as many videos of Walliamsriding a unicorn whilst wearing
Gennappi and drinking Doom Bar.
(16:05):
That's what I'll do actually.
Again, that's where Sora you cansay.
Well, that's one of the thingsSaurus says it can do.
It's like, right, you can uploadvideo yourself and we can put
you in sit we can put you insituations.
So you and your friends can bedoing random stuff.
I'm like, fuck me, hasn't that'sjust gonna especially like
bullying and stuff.
Yeah, like uh like kids aregonna use that for various
(16:26):
reasons.
Yeah, text in for what's thewhat's our email address for
him?
SPEAKER_02 (16:31):
Text or text in to our email address.
How old is it?
Text in our email address.
Text in to firstlit gnomes atoutlook.com.
Tell us what you think about AI.
SPEAKER_04 (16:43):
AI will text him and say, Your show is terrible, you
should let us do it.
We should do an AI podcast, weshould let AI do our own
podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
You can record our voices and create into AI.
Oh no, thank you.
Polished, I think it'll be toogood.
And who probably hang on, thissounds quite professional.
It's not them.
SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
Yeah, is that I think we're gonna prove a human
though by being stupid.
SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
Yeah, I don't think AI can quite get that
unprofessionalism correct.
SPEAKER_04 (17:12):
Well, they've trying though, aren't they?
So I don't think you use again awhile, I was talking too much
about this, but when you talk toChatGBT now, it was too
personal.
So they've started when the whenit talks back to you now, if you
use the voice feature, theperson, the voice that you've
chosen puts something likepauses it.
So if you say like, oh tell mehow to make a really the the
best cheese on toast possible.
(17:33):
In the past it would have beenlike you need to get some bread,
get some cheese, do this, dothat.
Now it's like hmm, that's I'mnot sure.
It depends.
Do you want this?
And it's trying to add tone andaffliction to make it more
realistic.
And I'm like, I don't want it tobe realistic.
Like human friends for realism.
SPEAKER_02 (17:50):
Well they yeah, they made that that update though
that I saw which uh made it uhless realistic in a way, and
there was unfortunately quite afew people that were affected
quite badly by it because theybasically think some of them
wanted to marry or had a like aproper relationship with their
AI.
Oh wow.
(18:11):
So they were like having afull-on relationship with
Carlos, whatever it is called,their AI person, and then one
day they they did an update tothe AI, and then they messaged
them and said, and they justcame back saying something like
uh you shouldn't be using AI asa personal relationship thing,
(18:33):
you need to seek help, and it'slike proper, like heartbreaking
stuff these people that arefully invested in this AI thing
they created a relationshipwith.
They did an update and they justsaid, You're not very well.
SPEAKER_04 (18:47):
How did how did you respond when you received that
text message, Valium?
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
But um but there's people that messaged on these
like forums and stuff saying, Iknow you I know Carlos is still
out there somewhere on theinternet, I'll find you.
SPEAKER_04 (19:03):
It's on server 376C in the middle of the Atlantic
Ocean.
Do you do you think we shouldmake a should we make a vow not
to talk about oh stuff for therest of the season?
SPEAKER_02 (19:13):
Well, so we will next season.
We have we've done it on everyonce per season, so yes, we
weren't doing the season.
SPEAKER_04 (19:21):
It's so in the psyche of what's going on in the
world though, isn't it?
It really is.
Yeah, but it's quiteinteresting.
SPEAKER_02 (19:28):
I think I did listen back to an old one, I don't know
if it made it to an um vault ornot.
But one of the old mentions ofAI we're talking about, but it's
it's it sounds so outdatedalready.
Like looking us talking about AIinitially, I think it was like
oh it creates images.
And it's like, well, of courseit is Pints and First Bites!
SPEAKER_00 (19:54):
Oh, Pinter first bites!
SPEAKER_02 (19:59):
Is it a pint or a first bite?
What do you think, Mr.
Kiss?
SPEAKER_04 (20:02):
Uh well last time it was a pint, so I'm gonna go for
a first bite.
SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
Oh it's a first bite for Sargus.
Wait, today we have a curatorspork puffs.
Wow pork puffs we've got today,so um you hear me chomping on
(20:28):
this, which is obviously notgreat for listening, but um the
curators, pork puffs, greattaste.
SPEAKER_04 (20:37):
And they can hear you gulping.
SPEAKER_02 (20:40):
2024 winner of the great taste, 19 grams of
protein, zero carb, 133calories.
It's pretty good, isn't it?
Zero carb.
Zero carb.
High protein.
SPEAKER_04 (20:53):
No carbohydrates in this.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
So you need uh work out after this.
SPEAKER_04 (20:59):
You are looking quite healthy and buff at the
minute, Wallyam.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Seriously tasty, crunchy bites of protein
perfection, bringing you realsnacking satisfaction.
We've dialed the crunch.
The crunch has been highlighted.
The crunch up to eleven, andmixed out on superior flavour,
our pork puffs deliver crunchwith a punch.
SPEAKER_04 (21:28):
Crunch with a punch.
You know, it sounds like Ialways written that description.
I'm not gonna Yeah, probablywould.
SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (21:35):
The curated crunch up to eleven.
SPEAKER_02 (21:38):
Embarrassing other snacks since 2018.
SPEAKER_04 (21:41):
So where did these come from, Williams?
How did you come across these?
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Uh the wife.
SPEAKER_04 (21:46):
The wife got you.
Is she trying to tell yousomething?
The wife bought them.
No carbs and full protein.
SPEAKER_02 (21:52):
Seasoned pork rind ingredients.
Pork rind.
96%.
Wow.
What else we've got?
Salt yeast extract.
SPEAKER_04 (22:04):
It's I mean it's a solid ingredients list.
SPEAKER_02 (22:07):
It is.
Let's give it a go, shall we?
SPEAKER_04 (22:08):
I bet these I bet these are gonna be so good.
SPEAKER_02 (22:12):
Is this is this the oh canabollocks?
SPEAKER_04 (22:17):
I'm not allowed to eat pork at all.
What's the fat content?
If that's a 25 gram bag, what'sthe is it a 25 gram bag?
I'm guessing it is.
It is 25 gram bag.
12% of 12 grams of fat?
SPEAKER_02 (22:38):
Alright, sorry, I was looking at the per 100
grams.
So 25 gram bag, fat, 25.5, but Iwas looking at the per 100 gram.
SPEAKER_04 (22:47):
It's yeah, so 6.4.
That's not actually that's nottoo bad considering it's just
pork rind.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Yeah, that's that's a little bitmore than like a packet of
walkers, but not much.
SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (22:59):
Let's go.
Get it in you, Alice.
I'm excited for you.
SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
Oh, it smells porky.
SPEAKER_04 (23:08):
96% pork rind.
You'd be surprised if it didn't.
SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
Let's give it a go.
Oh, they're very puffy, so it'slike a pork scratching, but full
of air.
SPEAKER_04 (23:16):
It's like Yeah, do you remember do you remember
pork crunch?
You must remember pork crunch.
No, that's just a pork crunch.
From like the 90s.
Yeah, give it a go.
Mmm.
Mmm.
Mmm.
Always happy with that one.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
(23:36):
Have you found your pork yourpub snack of the future?
SPEAKER_02 (23:41):
I'm in a pub.
I have my pork scratchings.
With a beer.
SPEAKER_04 (23:46):
They're much better for you than pork scratchings.
SPEAKER_02 (23:48):
Yeah, these I get the same satisfaction as a pork
scratching.
But it's better for you.
Well, it's not better for you.
But it is.
It's much better for you.
Of course it is.
SPEAKER_04 (23:59):
Like one pork scratching would have six grams
of fat in it.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
And a hair.
Oh yeah.
Well recommended.
SPEAKER_04 (24:08):
Oh, it's happy.
Well done, like you've got some.
SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
They don't sponsor us yet.
And they created his port buffs.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
So how many how many somethings are you gonna give
it?
Ten.
Ten something?
Ten something.
Is that the first is that thefirst time anyone's gonna put
well actually you didn't tell uswhat it's out of?
Ten out of what?
SPEAKER_02 (24:28):
We don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (24:30):
Oh, we never know.
Well, we'll just give it ten andjust leave it there.
Look to the website.
Still haven't done the website,Wallibs.
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
Do we do we actually try to start the show seriously
yet or not?
SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
Oh depends what you're gonna talk about.
No.
Don't tell me you're gonna talkabout AI.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
No, I'm not actually.
This is this is gonna be moremore homely, more serious.
Um and it's quite a while agonow, actually.
Um thing or there, then I gotill, and then um we've not
podded for a while.
But um bit of a mixture.
So we had I think it was inAugust now, but we had a first
look, well Logan had a firstlook, um in terms of the first
(25:09):
half.
The Cornish Steam Engine Rally.
Oh yes.
Steam Engine Rally in CornwallIs this when it was raining?
SPEAKER_04 (25:19):
You just left your wife and kid with coach where
you got past.
SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Oh, I beg your pardon.
Yeah, this is the steam enginerally.
So in basic a big field inCornwall.
Um hundreds and hundreds ofsteam engines basically turn up,
pumping like loads of smoke,chugging along over the
different fields, with variouslittle shows going on, and uh
(25:48):
yeah, Logan Logan loved it.
Um the it was a bit windy, sobasically everyone's faces
started turning black becauseall the smog from like the steam
engines and uh and you know,with the coal and stuff.
And no, it was it was a goodhomely cornish event, you know,
eating chips.
And you're getting like smog inyour face from all the steam
(26:10):
engines chugging along aroundyou.
SPEAKER_04 (26:13):
Cheap, you know, cheap, you know, those bags of
hot donuts, cheap donuts, uhcovered and shit and boiling
hard, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:22):
So you're eating those, and then um you've got
the what they called you know,those automatic wind-up
orchestra things.
Oh yeah.
What are they called?
I forget what they're called,but you know, in the background
and they're do-do-do, the likeorgan, like organ music stuff
going in in the background.
Um, yeah, and then um they haduh they also had a sort of car
(26:47):
shows there, and it reminds meof the last episode actually,
well not the time, but it doesnow.
A first look at the 90s.
So these there's these carshows, and they've got these
really old cars, you know, niceones.
But then but then out came sortof a Land Rover Defender or a
Ford Escort or you know the carsthat we saw in the 90s, type
(27:12):
thing.
Yeah, a Rano Laguna, you knowReno Laguna.
It's like hang on, hang on,these aren't these aren't old
cars, these are like 30 yearsold, Williams.
These aren't classic cars, whatand there's like people that
drive around the field what'sgoing on here?
Yes, that was a bit of a shock.
(27:34):
I felt like old, hang on, thesethese cars should be, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (27:39):
Do you remember yellow rena lagunas?
Yellow ones like they were athing, weren't they?
Rena Lagunas in yellow were amassive thing in the mid 1930s.
SPEAKER_02 (27:47):
My dad had a Ford Escorts, I think it was a big
one.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's like FordEscorts, yeah, Ford Fiestas,
Nissan Skylines, like these arecars incredible.
SPEAKER_04 (28:00):
Why why what why Rover MGs?
Yeah, that uh well it's becauseyou think about it, right?
In 2025, so if you were born inthe year 2000, yeah, but you
were born five years after theescort had finished, or you
know, the escort yeah FordEscorts were pretty cool back in
the day though.
SPEAKER_02 (28:19):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah.
Well these petrol cars, youknow.
SPEAKER_04 (28:23):
Yeah.
And I I remember I remember myold man had like a Mazda 323.
Yeah, and I remember thinking itwas the sexiest car in the
world.
I think it was there.
It probably was, and it had likea spoiler, and like there was
the Toyota Corolla, yeah, allthese cars from the nineties, or
not Corolla, Selika, yeah, yeah,and yeah, just cars that were
(28:46):
just in the 90s were just likewow.
But you know, do you know whatthough?
I miss cars of the 90s becausethey all look different.
Yeah, a Ford Escort lookeddifferent to a Ford Laguna to a
Rena Laguna, whereas now, if yougo and have a look at like you
get a high-end Tucson or a SkodaKodiak or any of them, they all
just look at the same.
Every single car on the roadlooks the same.
(29:07):
There's no cars with any kind ofpersonality.
Whereas in the 90s, if you drivethe Ford Escort, it said
something about who you were.
If you drove a lagooner, it saidsomething about who you were.
Now all it says is we're allkind of middle class and we all
drive the same boring car, andthey've all got very good safety
features and a DAB radio.
Don't give it, I don't care.
(29:27):
Where's the spoiler?
Where's where's the cool funkystuff?
You know, they all lookdifferent, money.
SPEAKER_02 (29:34):
What was your favourite 90s car?
Oh, I don't know.
Um probably yeah, the likes ofthe Lagoon, I just feel like
nostalgic because my dad had it,and uh the Land Rover, Land
Rover Defender.
Um, we had one of those as well.
But um and a Jag, I can'tremember what type of Jaguar,
but um yeah, it's just uh it'sjust crazy that because they
(29:58):
were just driving just people,they brought The cars along,
which to me seemed like twoyears ago, but obviously it
wasn't.
And they're just driving aroundthis field, and there's a man on
like a microphone going, Oh,this is the Ford Fiesta from
1992.
What's going on?
(30:18):
You know, we're eating ourdonuts.
SPEAKER_04 (30:22):
So are you are you feeling old?
SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
Is that what it is when it's well yeah, and then
like Logan's there going, Oh,you're looking at these old
cars?
And to him, he's like looking atthese old cars going round.
So what is going on?
But um but then also at this atthis show we um we looked at uh
went to a tent and there was uhsort of uh a steam engine sort
(30:44):
of uh thing going on and there'ssome leaflets there and I said,
hang on, this there's a heritagemuseum for steam engines in Red
Rouf, our town.
So we went there.
We went there as well.
So and it's basically andthere's like there's there's
train sets and mechanics, butit's it's a bit weird because
(31:05):
it's kind of like someone'sfarm, old farmhouse, with a
group of 60 to 90 year old sortof guys that have obviously been
told by their wives, you're notplaying with these train sets at
home.
So they've all got together andthey've you know got these train
sets of bicano sets and like allsorts of and you just go in,
(31:28):
it's it's an absolute mess, andit's an absolute health and
safety disaster for the littleones.
So we sort of like that.
He loved it, but you're like, ohwatch your head, watch your
head.
And uh but they've and they'vegot there like a they've got
like a I say a train, but it'slike an old mining train where
the engine at the front they'veattached a like old computer
(31:50):
desk onto it, so someone can sitthere and like you know get the
thing going, chuck it along witha couple carriages behind it
pulling along, and then an oldsort of like you know,
90-year-old chap, he gets in thecarriage with you, and the brake
system is literally like a apole, I suppose, in the carriage
that you sort of like push downand sort of screw it around to
(32:11):
like lock it in and sort ofthings like that, and it goes
around the field which has gotgnomes, it's got gnomes dotted
around on the track, of course,and it's yeah, it's just like a
proper and then like we had togo to take Logan to the toilet,
and the toilet is basically theback of someone's house, and
this is like a museum attractionopened up to the public.
(32:32):
But yeah, it was it was lovely.
It was it sounds very cool.
Cornish day hat.
And how do how did Logan findit?
Loved it, loved it, becausethere was uh there's one chap
there that his job is basicallyto he's got some wind up sort of
train, so he just basicallypicks up a train, winds up
sticks on the track and flies onmy track, but then there's also
(32:54):
some electric sort of poweredones, and there was a Thomas one
which he'd love, so he would sitthere and just watch this Thomas
train come around the trackevery now and again.
But yeah, absolutely loved it,and yeah, we'll go there.
We'll be going there again.
But so yeah, what's the firstlooks at steam engines and cars
in the 90s?
(33:16):
Tips for dads.
Tips for duds, tips for dads,yes.
SPEAKER_04 (33:25):
We will.
We will get our tips out for thedads.
So my uh speaking of kids, soyou've got a two and a half year
old.
Uh I have a boy who has justentered double digits.
Double digits.
Oh no, I can't believe that.
It's mad, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (33:39):
So I can't believe that I probably forgot and
thought he was nine, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:44):
Well, we talked about that in the last episode
as well, didn't we?
You're like, he's eight, isn'the?
Oh, what's his birthday?
So yeah, he's he's doubledigits.
So we've got a 10.
Oh, easy.
Uh I just got a text from one ofour listeners saying, John
Smith's, how old are you?
Like, I think John Smith is agreat beer to drink, while he's
right.
Time some first bites, JohnSmith, good beer.
(34:06):
I've got a massive pass.
He's eating some pork puffs andI'm drinking John Smith's beer.
So my son is double digits now,and he has, for anyone who is a
regular listener, uh know he'she's been obsessed with Lego
because of the the same guy whojust texted me abusing me for
drinking John Smith's from ayoung age has ploughed my son
(34:27):
with Lego.
I think from probably his thirdbirthday, Uncle Morggs would
always send uh Lego to my son,and my son has embraced it and
loves the Lego.
Um, but it's progressed nowwhere like he wants more
challenging stuff.
So he wanted he's he's asked forall kinds of things, and he
(34:48):
likes the big builds that takedays.
So he got for his birthday oneof these big builds made for
adults, um, with like somethingridiculous, like 12,000 bricks
or something, thinking, oh, thiswill take him a this will take
him a good couple of months.
No, no, no, it took him like twoweeks, all the whole thing.
Wow, really, and it it's likefour foot tall, and I'm just
(35:11):
like oh flipping egg.
He just he he just grind he justgrinded, he literally just like
hyper focused, just gonna grindit, grind it, grind it.
What is it?
But it was tricky, so it's likeum it's a it's a skyscraper,
effectively, from Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_03 (35:27):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (35:28):
It's called the day, it's the Daily Bugle set.
Right, um, and he's wanted itfor ages.
Yeah, yeah.
And we're like, I was like, whatdo you want for what do you want
for your birthday?
Do you want your bike?
Do you want your bike?
No, I want this Lego set.
I was like, Lego set.
Yeah, and I was like, no, not achance.
Like, so like, okay, well, ifyou want that, we can we can get
everybody, we'll all chip in,and if that's what you want,
(35:50):
we'll get it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (35:50):
So he got it, he got this for his birthday, and he
was over the moon.
He was so happy.
SPEAKER_02 (35:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (35:55):
And he just grounded out.
But it was a big build.
So like for two weeks it tookover our house because there was
just bits everywhere.
So my tips for dad today are allabout because I'm sure a lot of
people can relate to any Legopieces yet.
Yes, uh, yes, we have.
We have indeed.
So that's where one of the tipscomes from.
So Tips for Dad is all aboutLego, Lego building tips.
SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
I'm not gonna spoil that, sorry.
SPEAKER_04 (36:20):
Yeah, no, it's alright.
Uh well, that is one of thethings.
So because the pieces geteverywhere, first tip number
one, Brayden is so enthusiastic,opens the bag, tips it onto the
table.
Lego pieces, plastic onto atable, everywhere.
He's like, So, you've been doingthis for how many years now?
Like, that's a school boy areais like, oh dad, I can't believe
(36:42):
that.
I'm so like, where's my tray?
Get him this tray.
It's like get the Lego tray.
So invest in a Lego tray.
Like, get get some kind of trayor bowl.
And I was speaking to the goodwife before this is and biggest
tip organization.
She's she's drilled into aboutorganizing the pieces first,
yeah, so that you're notspending hours trying to look
for pieces.
Yeah, like a jigsaw puzzle.
(37:03):
So that was her tip to beorganized.
My tip is be gentle.
So with this skyscraper, you hadhe had to build these different
in-sections, and then you haveto put the sections on top and
you have to push them down intoplace.
But sometimes because it's sobig, you're like you pushing it,
you know, it's it doesn't justclick.
So you have to push quite hard.
And I'm not kidding, when yourchild has spent 10 days building
(37:26):
something and you're on like thefourth floor, and he's like, I
can't get this in, Dad, andyou're pushing it, you're
thinking, if I push this toohard, my whole arm's going
through the whole skyscraper.
And so be gentle, yeah, begentle with the Lego.
Did you push it?
Oh, we got it in eventually,it's fine.
Didn't break it, so it's good.
(37:46):
So yeah, be gentle.
Braden's Wallyams! Did you justmake a rude?
Did you just make Rudy?
Wally's made of Rudy.
You don't need to make Rudies.
Hey, welcome to the dark side.
Oh, you've got more productsthere, Wallyams.
(38:07):
I don't need to you don't needto make them Rudy jokes.
So Brayden said to be patient.
He said, do a bit now.
Considering he just hyperfocused and was spent like eight
hours of time just focusing onbuilding the internal workings
of this skyscraper.
His tip is to be patient.
He's like, do a bit and then goand do something else for a bit,
(38:28):
go and have some food, go andread a book, do something, and
then come back to it.
So his tip is be patient.
You know what my tip is?
He did this whole thing in twoweeks.
It's incredible.
Like if he could just focus onhis school work and his math
homework the way he focused onhis Lego, he'd be a genius.
One thing we have learned aboutLego, because do like the Lego,
it's very expensive.
(38:49):
I I think it's overpriced forwhat it is.
But the Mario sets.
So again, any parents out therewho buy their kids the Mario
sets, don't do it.
Like they don't come with a bookon how to build stuff.
So you have to like you buy theset, you're like, right, how do
we build this?
Then you have to download an appand then all the instructions
and stuff on the app.
Load of load of Tosh.
So final set, final tip isactually for Lego.
(39:11):
Just print the bloody book.
So because people need the booksto build the stuff.
We don't want to have todownload an app to then work out
how to build the bloody Lego.
We want the book.
Are you alright that one?
It was making enough noise.
Just kidding.
He's making rude jokes, he'sjust smashing around.
So, yes, that's the that's thetips for dads.
Lego, Lego, Lego.
(39:31):
Be patient, be organized, be uhgentle, and don't bother Mario
sets.
SPEAKER_02 (39:38):
Good tips.
Good tips.
SPEAKER_04 (39:40):
There we go.
SPEAKER_02 (39:41):
I think I write a tip down.
Did I write a tip down?
Did you write a tip down?
SPEAKER_04 (39:45):
You probably made a joke about a tip because you're
a dirty bugger these days.
SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
I wrote a tip down.
I said uh try to focus oneffort, not outcome.
If your little ones having a goat getting their shoes on, even
if they're on the wrong feet, orthe half tidying up, try not to
dive in and fix it straightaway.
Instead, something like, youreally gave that a good go.
Or I saw you trying.
(40:10):
Well done.
SPEAKER_03 (40:12):
Excellent.
SPEAKER_02 (40:13):
Because yeah, they're still figuring out how
the world works at their age.
Well, in terms of toddlers, thatis.
Um so whether they're stackingblocks, sharing a toy, or
helping put coffee in your mug,but putting ten spoons of it and
then pour half of it over thetable and make a mess
everywhere.
Just make sure you uh keep aneye out for the effort.
(40:35):
So well done on effort, becausethat's what matters.
SPEAKER_04 (40:40):
So are you replacing the I mean, beautiful tips and
beautiful sentiments.
I'm guessing two things.
One, that's happened, and two,have you been spending time with
the no or no?
Because he's meant to be thewise now, but you sounded very
wise there.
I did, because I wrote it down.
SPEAKER_02 (40:52):
I wrote that bit down.
So I think when I was reading itout, I think it went a bit no
know me.
But you did, you did, you wentvery neutral.
Yes, I've I've uh in themorning, um so on on the
weekends uh Georgie uh goes uhsort of teaches a swimming
lesson, so it's uh daddy and uhLogan time, and um I do get him
to help me make a coffee, um butuh he yeah, he likes to put like
(41:17):
ten spoons worth of coffee intothe cup.
Wake up, Daddy! But yeah,lovely.
SPEAKER_04 (41:27):
He's two and a half, mate.
If he's helping you do that kindof stuff, that's really cool.
Yeah, bro.
You'll love that so much aswell.
SPEAKER_02 (41:34):
Um helping you live.
Yeah, Minnie just finished offthe the episode.
So mini mini first looks.
We've seen some stuff about uhthe new Star Wars stuff like
Starfighter featuring Ken fromBarbie, oh yes, and the Grogu in
the Mandalorian, and I found outthat Yoda has a last name.
SPEAKER_04 (41:56):
Does he?
SPEAKER_02 (41:57):
Yeah, it's a Lehihu.
SPEAKER_04 (42:02):
Yoda Lehi.
SPEAKER_02 (42:06):
Yod Lehi.
Sorry, I said.
SPEAKER_04 (42:09):
Very good.
SPEAKER_02 (42:10):
Uh see you next time, Mr.
Nick.
SPEAKER_04 (42:12):
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SPEAKER_02 (00:29):
I died before episode eight.
At least episode seven, I canskate.
Cause right now I know I can'tdo jack.
Without the man up on my back.
At least seven four season four,episode seven, we can pod.
SPEAKER_04 (00:49):
Way! I thought there was gonna be something else
there.
I thought you were gonna go intothe whole like No verse.
SPEAKER_02 (00:57):
Very good.
Who sung that song?
Uh I can't remember now.
Is uh nineties, what is it?
90s, 2000s.
Yeah, die before a week.
SPEAKER_04 (01:08):
Talks about Jesus doing these balls.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
I can skate.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (01:12):
I can't remember who sung that.
Usually I'd be able to get that,but I can't remember.
Weezer?
Weezer?
Is that right?
No, it wasn't Weezer.
No.
Ah, we'll remember.
Some point over the next coupleof episodes we'll just out.
Oh, it was such and such.
Do you remember?
SPEAKER_02 (01:27):
Another throwback to the nineties, like the last
episode.
SPEAKER_04 (01:30):
We did do a lot of talking about the nineties last
time, didn't we?
SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
It's been a while since the last episode.
Because I was a bit a bitpoorly, wasn't I?
SPEAKER_04 (01:38):
Oh, you were poorly sick.
It cancelled on me, ladies andgentlemen.
We were meant to be doing anepisode.
SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
And I was a bit poorly.
A bit poorly.
SPEAKER_04 (01:46):
How are you feeling now?
Are you back to full strength?
Well no.
SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
What was a weer?
Just a bad cold.
And or maybe the vid, who knows?
But uh yeah, so I lost my voicea little bit.
Then I got better, but then liketwo days ago, my cold came back
really badly.
SPEAKER_04 (02:04):
Now I'm still a bit throat, but I don't know.
You still got a bit of a throat.
Imagine imagine you losing yourvoice.
Usually you're so chatty most ofthe time.
SPEAKER_02 (02:13):
Yes, yes.
I also I also have a concondition where I can't stop
telling airport jokes.
My doctor says it's terminal.
But I sent you a nice voicemail,I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
You did you sent me send me one of those ones where
you sound all sexy?
Like, hello.
Hello.
Um Williams, you mentioned the90s.
Did you see the news that MTVhas like they've did they've
axed all of the shows in the inthe UK, all the channels in the
UK now?
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (02:44):
So at the end of this year, it was massive,
wasn't it?
I mean music videos weremassive.
SPEAKER_04 (02:49):
They were.
Do you remember like I rememberwhen we were like teenagers just
sitting and watching like thebox and MTV and it was all like
Britney Spears and Destiny'sChild, just music videos, and
then they started going offpiste a little bit and started
doing cribs and all that sort ofstuff.
SPEAKER_02 (03:08):
Yeah, Pit My Ride.
Yeah, Pit My Rides, and then thebasically wasn't music anymore,
was it?
It was just No TV.
SPEAKER_04 (03:16):
So that's what they're still gonna do.
So the MTV is staying with allthe reality TV, but all the like
MTV dance, MTV hits, they're alldisappearing.
Outrageous decision.
I mean, saying that I haven'twatched it in years, because I
guess we're YouTube and V is itvivo and stuff.
People people can shoot musicvideos different these days,
don't they?
SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
What was the other channel that was a bit more
older audience, but kind of V atthe same time?
V E V V Oh Flip Me.
It was one of those like an MTVwhich was like the where we were
cool young teenagers.
Oh, what was it?
It was like the older ones.
It was a V VH VHS.
SPEAKER_04 (03:59):
It was like it was like VHS, so like VMA or
something.
I've got it, VH1.
VH1, it was VH1.
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
I don't know, VH1.
VH1, not VHS.
Yeah, as I say, yeah, I'mthinking of VHS, but yeah, it
was V1.
You were close though.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (04:11):
VH1, yeah.
VH1, UK and Ireland.
SPEAKER_02 (04:14):
Was it VH2 as well?
SPEAKER_04 (04:16):
There there probably was.
Yeah.
Now, who sung the song grippingcontent as a first of those?
Yeah, sorry.
Okay, here we go.
Do you want me to tell you whoit was?
SPEAKER_02 (04:31):
We're dove and more from first looks to nostalgic uh
content, aren't we?
SPEAKER_04 (04:36):
Just two old guys chatting nonsense about the good
old days.
Oh, back in my day.
If you wanted to watch BritneySpears, you could text the
number and you get this crazyfrog on your phone.
And then you'd be able to watchand then you'd be able to watch
Destiny's Child in standarddefinition.
Oh I remember we went to goodold days.
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
We went on another lads on the Telerife and we did
karaoke, and then I just starteddoing the crazy frog.
I doubt you remember that, youdon't remember last episode.
SPEAKER_04 (05:06):
But I I remember I do remember because sometimes
you there was a lot of timeswe'd be out and you'd have one
too many and just start makingnoises.
I mean, you were the originalcrazy frog.
SPEAKER_03 (05:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (05:18):
You just evolved.
SPEAKER_02 (05:22):
The crazy frog just came from the days of people
used to pay for ringtones.
When was the last time you hearda ringtone?
SPEAKER_04 (05:30):
No one used everyone just has a ring there rather
than a ringtone.
I I remember spending hours onlike with one of the old school
phones where you'd make your ownringtones.
So like you go online and it'dsay, right, if you want the the
uh Superman theme tune, press11643476, and you put all these
(05:51):
numbers in, and eventually you'dhave this di di di di di that's
not the Su Man theme tune, isit?
The Su Man theme chain.
SPEAKER_02 (05:58):
Oh tune is that what was that one?
That was Night Riders.
SPEAKER_04 (06:04):
Oh yeah, not the Superman theme tune.
Su Man was the du rivetingcontent again.
Where's Night Riders?
SPEAKER_02 (06:15):
I think it's Ham James Bond, and then most people
do Mission Impossible or viceversa.
SPEAKER_04 (06:20):
Yeah, so I remember the John Williams challenge,
which was like that.
It was you need to kind of singthe Indiana Jones theme tune,
followed by the Star Wars themetune, followed by the Superman
theme tune, like back to back.
Oh wow, and it's like oh whichwhich ones with Indiana Jones is
like it's actually moredifficult than you and then you
have to kind of go into the StarWars one.
SPEAKER_03 (06:40):
That's tricky, I think.
SPEAKER_04 (06:44):
Anyway, yes.
People are gonna think we lost aplot, man.
So then you just only just comeon.
We're talking about using ourphones to make songs, songs that
we can't even rememberourselves.
And yeah, I was gonna tell youwho sung that other song, The
Heaven is a Halfpipe one.
It was OPM.
OPM.
SPEAKER_02 (07:00):
There we go.
SPEAKER_04 (07:01):
Back in the day, you may not have seen on VH1, but
you probably would have seenNTV, yeah.
That was it.
It's all gonna be it's all gonnabe three letters.
OPM, VH1, MTV.
Ah, fun, fun, fun.
Sorry, Wellems.
We just completely just went offon a tape.
SPEAKER_02 (07:20):
Apologies for the uh the late episode, and we've just
proved we've been unwell.
Did you want to sort of start ofyour first look, Sarchkiss?
SPEAKER_04 (07:29):
Oh, we just straight into a first look.
Okay, well we can do.
So this wasn't what I was gonnaoriginally talk about, but then
I saw it and I was like, oh, soprobably talk about it because
and apparently we've talked wetalk a lot about AI, and I can't
remember us ever talking aboutAI.
But there's a at least probablythere's an E1.
(07:52):
It's oh OpenAI who make Chat GPTum have released a new thing
called Sora.
S-O-R-A.
Alright, yes, yes, yes, yes,yes.
It's a text to video AI, and thevideos are photorealistic, and
they've added sounds now, so youcan give prompts and they put
the sounds in there, and it'sterrifying, and I hate it, I
(08:13):
hate everything about it.
And this is on the same day thatthe BBC this morning, I woke up,
I was reading the news as youdo, and there's a BBC verify
article, and I like the BBCVerify articles about the tech
billionaires who are all doomprepping.
And I was like, okay, so I wokeup this morning to okay, the
fact that that Mark Zuckerberg'sand the Jeff Bezos's of the
(08:38):
world are all kind of buyingmassive amounts of land in
places like New Zealand andbuilding massive underground
bunkers for the time where youknow Skynet takes over.
That's not a good sign.
It's not, and that's what itsaid.
That was the BBC verified, likethey're all doing this.
Should we be worried?
I'm like, of course we shouldpretty well be worried.
SPEAKER_02 (09:00):
Like if if the richest people in the world are
doing prepping, yeah, we're justgonna create all this AI sort of
stuff, but at the same time, I'mjust gonna build a bunker in the
middle of nowhere.
Yeah.
We're just gonna see whathappens.
Nothing to worry about.
SPEAKER_04 (09:12):
Exactly.
And you just think, so now we wealready have buildings.
SPEAKER_02 (09:17):
If you've got a few billion spare, don't worry,
you'll be fine.
SPEAKER_04 (09:21):
Yeah, you'll be fine.
You can go and hide undergroundfor the apocalypse.
But you also think it's notnecessarily the AI that I'm
worried about actually takingover, it's the human beings
using the AI.
So the Sora, it's incrediblewhat you can do with it.
Like you can you can you canbasically say, right, I want a
video of bomb dropping on Londonor something, and it can make it
(09:45):
so photorealistic that if you ifyou are you know if you are that
way inclined of the propagandastuff, you're gonna be able to
have a field day.
So it terrifies me because youthink, okay, so all of this, all
of the social media content ismonetized, so the more noise you
can make, the more uh shit youcan stir, the rich you can get.
(10:06):
So people are encouraged bymoney and greed.
It's an echo chamber, yeah.
But they're the content creatorsare encouraged to get themselves
rich by making content thateffectively pushes people's
buttons, causes debate andoutrage, and you know, just rage
baiting.
Uh and you've just given themthe tools to make it so much
(10:26):
more realistic.
Yeah.
And just so much you the amountof content that can be produced
so quickly by so many people cannever all be verified.
Because it can never be all thesame.
SPEAKER_02 (10:36):
There's so many fake videos at the moment out there
because of the algorithms andstuff, so there's loads of fake
videos, and they're there alwaysactors, and there's like the two
people having a massive argumentabout this, and then there's a
caption, was this person right?
And then you know you get thecomments like, oh, this is
clearly fake because the actingis terrible, etc.
etc.
But with the AI videos, theacting is probably better.
SPEAKER_04 (10:59):
Yeah, it absolutely is.
Well, this Sora, so SORA, theyrelease like a two and a half
minute video and it says likeeverything that you see and
hear, all voices, everything hasbeen created with Sora AI.
And it's like real people aretalking to you, and it you
cannot tell that you canobviously until the obvious bits
where it's like a dragon flyinginto a storm, you can tell it's
(11:20):
yeah, AI, because I don't thinkthere are dragons flying into
storms, but the bits of likewhere there's human beings
talking to the camera, it's sorealistic now.
Yeah, and the there's a newthing now with like AI actors
and actresses, and you think,okay, so if you want to make a
film doing AI, great.
So for for those kind of things,for people who've got low
budgets, they can create art inmany ways, yeah.
(11:42):
But it's creating art using allthe art that's actually been
created, that's come fromhumans.
So eventually it's gonna stifleall creativity because like you
can only plagiarize so much, andit just takes away the fun of
it, and it just it makes youmistrusting of everything, and I
I just hate it.
I I can see why it's beingpushed this way, but I really
(12:02):
kind of wish it wasn't.
SPEAKER_02 (12:04):
It's taking away some of the because even just
the the usual AI stuff in termsof research and stuff, so
obviously AI started with it'sjust gonna it basically
researches the whole internet ina millisecond and then sort of
uses information sort of and youknow spouts at their end the
answers.
But now because so many peopleare using AI to create uh
(12:24):
content, AI is searching theinternet internet for content
created by AI and it's justcirculating and it's like all
the fake news stuff out there,it's gonna just oh yeah, that's
content, it's just I don't know,it's like eating itself.
It's mad.
SPEAKER_04 (12:43):
Yeah, it's self-cannibalizing.
We we we just I don't know,we're creating a we're creating
a world where we're not gonnaknow who to trust, and when you
can't trust anybody or anything,that's when shit goes wrong.
So, you know, if you can't havetrust in your government, you
can't believe the things they'resaying, you can't believe the
things you're doing, you can'tbelieve the things you're seeing
on the the different channels.
(13:03):
Because again, there are thereare good people out there trying
to do good things like BBCverify who are trying to make
sure that if something goes out,they're verifying yes, this is
actually a true video or not.
And that's fantastic, but theythey're only you they can't do
it all, you can't police theworld.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
And with their own agendas about um basic guys are
actually they're probablyyounger than us actually, um
teaching theirs mums, whose mumsare probably our age, um how to
spot AI videos, which to behonest is probably already out
of date.
But there's some interestingsort of tips in there in terms
(13:40):
of uh to where people look attheir teeth because uh AI
doesn't uh have as muchinformation on people's teeth.
So you look at their teeth andyou can kind of tell if it's
real or not, or look in thebackground, look at signs and
sort of the wording on the signsand yeah, yeah, look or you know
(14:00):
the the clip if it's I can'tremember now, but say less than
20 seconds, and it goes 20seconds, 20 seconds, and it
probably is AI because it's somuch power to do a big scene.
So if it's less than that amountof time, it's probably AI.
But even that stuff is gonna atsome point disappear.
SPEAKER_04 (14:20):
It's gonna improve.
So like Google's new image one,nana nana, nana, banana banana
nana na na na or something,something like that.
Banana na na it's it's Google'slike video one, and they pride
themselves on being able togenerate text properly.
So you think there's all thesedifferent ones that are out that
are kind of solving the problemsquickly.
Yeah, they're not problems forlong, so how you would spot an
(14:41):
AI video before is already outof date.
And it's just before you knowit, something someone somewhere
is going, someone nefarious isgonna do something with it
that's gonna start a series ofevents that are gonna be like,
ah, and I love the fact that allthis technology is there to help
(15:01):
people diagnose things quickerand for helping all the good
things that it can do isincredible.
It's all the bad stuff.
I don't like the fact that it'screating so much content and
art.
I'm like, that's one of the goodthings about being a human, is
like painting a picture.
I want to paint a picture, Iwant brain to paint and colour
in and read books written byhumans and stories and create
(15:22):
stories.
Thank goodness AI can't gardenWilliams.
Like AI can't do my gardeningfor me.
Like, don't take away thepleasures of life.
Like mowing my lawn and cut mytree.
So, yeah, that's that's SoraWilliams.
S O R A.
Check it out.
I'd be interested to hear whatanyone out there who's got any
thoughts on AI thinks about it.
(15:42):
Is it a good thing?
Is it a bad thing?
Are we worried about nothing?
Should we all be terrified asthe tech billionaires are now
building their doom day uhapocalypse dooms doomsday
bunkers?
Are we all just doomed and weshould just enjoy the ride and
make as many videos of Walliamsriding a unicorn whilst wearing
Gennappi and drinking Doom Bar.
(16:05):
That's what I'll do actually.
Again, that's where Sora you cansay.
Well, that's one of the thingsSaurus says it can do.
It's like, right, you can uploadvideo yourself and we can put
you in sit we can put you insituations.
So you and your friends can bedoing random stuff.
I'm like, fuck me, hasn't that'sjust gonna especially like
bullying and stuff.
Yeah, like uh like kids aregonna use that for various
(16:26):
reasons.
Yeah, text in for what's thewhat's our email address for
him?
SPEAKER_02 (16:31):
Text or text in to our email address.
How old is it?
Text in our email address.
Text in to firstlit gnomes atoutlook.com.
Tell us what you think about AI.
SPEAKER_04 (16:43):
AI will text him and say, Your show is terrible, you
should let us do it.
We should do an AI podcast, weshould let AI do our own
podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
You can record our voices and create into AI.
Oh no, thank you.
Polished, I think it'll be toogood.
And who probably hang on, thissounds quite professional.
It's not them.
SPEAKER_04 (17:05):
Yeah, is that I think we're gonna prove a human
though by being stupid.
SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
Yeah, I don't think AI can quite get that
unprofessionalism correct.
SPEAKER_04 (17:12):
Well, they've trying though, aren't they?
So I don't think you use again awhile, I was talking too much
about this, but when you talk toChatGBT now, it was too
personal.
So they've started when the whenit talks back to you now, if you
use the voice feature, theperson, the voice that you've
chosen puts something likepauses it.
So if you say like, oh tell mehow to make a really the the
best cheese on toast possible.
(17:33):
In the past it would have beenlike you need to get some bread,
get some cheese, do this, dothat.
Now it's like hmm, that's I'mnot sure.
It depends.
Do you want this?
And it's trying to add tone andaffliction to make it more
realistic.
And I'm like, I don't want it tobe realistic.
Like human friends for realism.
SPEAKER_02 (17:50):
Well they yeah, they made that that update though
that I saw which uh made it uhless realistic in a way, and
there was unfortunately quite afew people that were affected
quite badly by it because theybasically think some of them
wanted to marry or had a like aproper relationship with their
AI.
Oh wow.
(18:11):
So they were like having afull-on relationship with
Carlos, whatever it is called,their AI person, and then one
day they they did an update tothe AI, and then they messaged
them and said, and they justcame back saying something like
uh you shouldn't be using AI asa personal relationship thing,
(18:33):
you need to seek help, and it'slike proper, like heartbreaking
stuff these people that arefully invested in this AI thing
they created a relationshipwith.
They did an update and they justsaid, You're not very well.
SPEAKER_04 (18:47):
How did how did you respond when you received that
text message, Valium?
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
But um but there's people that messaged on these
like forums and stuff saying, Iknow you I know Carlos is still
out there somewhere on theinternet, I'll find you.
SPEAKER_04 (19:03):
It's on server 376C in the middle of the Atlantic
Ocean.
Do you do you think we shouldmake a should we make a vow not
to talk about oh stuff for therest of the season?
SPEAKER_02 (19:13):
Well, so we will next season.
We have we've done it on everyonce per season, so yes, we
weren't doing the season.
SPEAKER_04 (19:21):
It's so in the psyche of what's going on in the
world though, isn't it?
It really is.
Yeah, but it's quiteinteresting.
SPEAKER_02 (19:28):
I think I did listen back to an old one, I don't know
if it made it to an um vault ornot.
But one of the old mentions ofAI we're talking about, but it's
it's it sounds so outdatedalready.
Like looking us talking about AIinitially, I think it was like
oh it creates images.
And it's like, well, of courseit is Pints and First Bites!
SPEAKER_00 (19:54):
Oh, Pinter first bites!
SPEAKER_02 (19:59):
Is it a pint or a first bite?
What do you think, Mr.
Kiss?
SPEAKER_04 (20:02):
Uh well last time it was a pint, so I'm gonna go for
a first bite.
SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
Oh it's a first bite for Sargus.
Wait, today we have a curatorspork puffs.
Wow pork puffs we've got today,so um you hear me chomping on
(20:28):
this, which is obviously notgreat for listening, but um the
curators, pork puffs, greattaste.
SPEAKER_04 (20:37):
And they can hear you gulping.
SPEAKER_02 (20:40):
2024 winner of the great taste, 19 grams of
protein, zero carb, 133calories.
It's pretty good, isn't it?
Zero carb.
Zero carb.
High protein.
SPEAKER_04 (20:53):
No carbohydrates in this.
Wow.
SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
So you need uh work out after this.
SPEAKER_04 (20:59):
You are looking quite healthy and buff at the
minute, Wallyam.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Seriously tasty, crunchy bites of protein
perfection, bringing you realsnacking satisfaction.
We've dialed the crunch.
The crunch has been highlighted.
The crunch up to eleven, andmixed out on superior flavour,
our pork puffs deliver crunchwith a punch.
SPEAKER_04 (21:28):
Crunch with a punch.
You know, it sounds like Ialways written that description.
I'm not gonna Yeah, probablywould.
SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (21:35):
The curated crunch up to eleven.
SPEAKER_02 (21:38):
Embarrassing other snacks since 2018.
SPEAKER_04 (21:41):
So where did these come from, Williams?
How did you come across these?
SPEAKER_02 (21:44):
Uh the wife.
SPEAKER_04 (21:46):
The wife got you.
Is she trying to tell yousomething?
The wife bought them.
No carbs and full protein.
SPEAKER_02 (21:52):
Seasoned pork rind ingredients.
Pork rind.
96%.
Wow.
What else we've got?
Salt yeast extract.
SPEAKER_04 (22:04):
It's I mean it's a solid ingredients list.
SPEAKER_02 (22:07):
It is.
Let's give it a go, shall we?
SPEAKER_04 (22:08):
I bet these I bet these are gonna be so good.
SPEAKER_02 (22:12):
Is this is this the oh canabollocks?
SPEAKER_04 (22:17):
I'm not allowed to eat pork at all.
What's the fat content?
If that's a 25 gram bag, what'sthe is it a 25 gram bag?
I'm guessing it is.
It is 25 gram bag.
12% of 12 grams of fat?
SPEAKER_02 (22:38):
Alright, sorry, I was looking at the per 100
grams.
So 25 gram bag, fat, 25.5, but Iwas looking at the per 100 gram.
SPEAKER_04 (22:47):
It's yeah, so 6.4.
That's not actually that's nottoo bad considering it's just
pork rind.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Yeah, that's that's a little bitmore than like a packet of
walkers, but not much.
SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (22:59):
Let's go.
Get it in you, Alice.
I'm excited for you.
SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
Oh, it smells porky.
SPEAKER_04 (23:08):
96% pork rind.
You'd be surprised if it didn't.
SPEAKER_02 (23:10):
Let's give it a go.
Oh, they're very puffy, so it'slike a pork scratching, but full
of air.
SPEAKER_04 (23:16):
It's like Yeah, do you remember do you remember
pork crunch?
You must remember pork crunch.
No, that's just a pork crunch.
From like the 90s.
Yeah, give it a go.
Mmm.
Mmm.
Mmm.
Always happy with that one.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
(23:36):
Have you found your pork yourpub snack of the future?
SPEAKER_02 (23:41):
I'm in a pub.
I have my pork scratchings.
With a beer.
SPEAKER_04 (23:46):
They're much better for you than pork scratchings.
SPEAKER_02 (23:48):
Yeah, these I get the same satisfaction as a pork
scratching.
But it's better for you.
Well, it's not better for you.
But it is.
It's much better for you.
Of course it is.
SPEAKER_04 (23:59):
Like one pork scratching would have six grams
of fat in it.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
And a hair.
Oh yeah.
Well recommended.
SPEAKER_04 (24:08):
Oh, it's happy.
Well done, like you've got some.
SPEAKER_02 (24:11):
They don't sponsor us yet.
And they created his port buffs.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
So how many how many somethings are you gonna give
it?
Ten.
Ten something?
Ten something.
Is that the first is that thefirst time anyone's gonna put
well actually you didn't tell uswhat it's out of?
Ten out of what?
SPEAKER_02 (24:28):
We don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (24:30):
Oh, we never know.
Well, we'll just give it ten andjust leave it there.
Look to the website.
Still haven't done the website,Wallibs.
SPEAKER_02 (24:39):
Do we do we actually try to start the show seriously
yet or not?
SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
Oh depends what you're gonna talk about.
No.
Don't tell me you're gonna talkabout AI.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
No, I'm not actually.
This is this is gonna be moremore homely, more serious.
Um and it's quite a while agonow, actually.
Um thing or there, then I gotill, and then um we've not
podded for a while.
But um bit of a mixture.
So we had I think it was inAugust now, but we had a first
look, well Logan had a firstlook, um in terms of the first
(25:09):
half.
The Cornish Steam Engine Rally.
Oh yes.
Steam Engine Rally in CornwallIs this when it was raining?
SPEAKER_04 (25:19):
You just left your wife and kid with coach where
you got past.
SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Oh, I beg your pardon.
Yeah, this is the steam enginerally.
So in basic a big field inCornwall.
Um hundreds and hundreds ofsteam engines basically turn up,
pumping like loads of smoke,chugging along over the
different fields, with variouslittle shows going on, and uh
(25:48):
yeah, Logan Logan loved it.
Um the it was a bit windy, sobasically everyone's faces
started turning black becauseall the smog from like the steam
engines and uh and you know,with the coal and stuff.
And no, it was it was a goodhomely cornish event, you know,
eating chips.
And you're getting like smog inyour face from all the steam
(26:10):
engines chugging along aroundyou.
SPEAKER_04 (26:13):
Cheap, you know, cheap, you know, those bags of
hot donuts, cheap donuts, uhcovered and shit and boiling
hard, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:22):
So you're eating those, and then um you've got
the what they called you know,those automatic wind-up
orchestra things.
Oh yeah.
What are they called?
I forget what they're called,but you know, in the background
and they're do-do-do, the likeorgan, like organ music stuff
going in in the background.
Um, yeah, and then um they haduh they also had a sort of car
(26:47):
shows there, and it reminds meof the last episode actually,
well not the time, but it doesnow.
A first look at the 90s.
So these there's these carshows, and they've got these
really old cars, you know, niceones.
But then but then out came sortof a Land Rover Defender or a
Ford Escort or you know the carsthat we saw in the 90s, type
(27:12):
thing.
Yeah, a Rano Laguna, you knowReno Laguna.
It's like hang on, hang on,these aren't these aren't old
cars, these are like 30 yearsold, Williams.
These aren't classic cars, whatand there's like people that
drive around the field what'sgoing on here?
Yes, that was a bit of a shock.
(27:34):
I felt like old, hang on, thesethese cars should be, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (27:39):
Do you remember yellow rena lagunas?
Yellow ones like they were athing, weren't they?
Rena Lagunas in yellow were amassive thing in the mid 1930s.
SPEAKER_02 (27:47):
My dad had a Ford Escorts, I think it was a big
one.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's like FordEscorts, yeah, Ford Fiestas,
Nissan Skylines, like these arecars incredible.
SPEAKER_04 (28:00):
Why why what why Rover MGs?
Yeah, that uh well it's becauseyou think about it, right?
In 2025, so if you were born inthe year 2000, yeah, but you
were born five years after theescort had finished, or you
know, the escort yeah FordEscorts were pretty cool back in
the day though.
SPEAKER_02 (28:19):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah.
Well these petrol cars, youknow.
SPEAKER_04 (28:23):
Yeah.
And I I remember I remember myold man had like a Mazda 323.
Yeah, and I remember thinking itwas the sexiest car in the
world.
I think it was there.
It probably was, and it had likea spoiler, and like there was
the Toyota Corolla, yeah, allthese cars from the nineties, or
not Corolla, Selika, yeah, yeah,and yeah, just cars that were
(28:46):
just in the 90s were just likewow.
But you know, do you know whatthough?
I miss cars of the 90s becausethey all look different.
Yeah, a Ford Escort lookeddifferent to a Ford Laguna to a
Rena Laguna, whereas now, if yougo and have a look at like you
get a high-end Tucson or a SkodaKodiak or any of them, they all
just look at the same.
Every single car on the roadlooks the same.
(29:07):
There's no cars with any kind ofpersonality.
Whereas in the 90s, if you drivethe Ford Escort, it said
something about who you were.
If you drove a lagooner, it saidsomething about who you were.
Now all it says is we're allkind of middle class and we all
drive the same boring car, andthey've all got very good safety
features and a DAB radio.
Don't give it, I don't care.
(29:27):
Where's the spoiler?
Where's where's the cool funkystuff?
You know, they all lookdifferent, money.
SPEAKER_02 (29:34):
What was your favourite 90s car?
Oh, I don't know.
Um probably yeah, the likes ofthe Lagoon, I just feel like
nostalgic because my dad had it,and uh the Land Rover, Land
Rover Defender.
Um, we had one of those as well.
But um and a Jag, I can'tremember what type of Jaguar,
but um yeah, it's just uh it'sjust crazy that because they
(29:58):
were just driving just people,they brought The cars along,
which to me seemed like twoyears ago, but obviously it
wasn't.
And they're just driving aroundthis field, and there's a man on
like a microphone going, Oh,this is the Ford Fiesta from
1992.
What's going on?
(30:18):
You know, we're eating ourdonuts.
SPEAKER_04 (30:22):
So are you are you feeling old?
SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
Is that what it is when it's well yeah, and then
like Logan's there going, Oh,you're looking at these old
cars?
And to him, he's like looking atthese old cars going round.
So what is going on?
But um but then also at this atthis show we um we looked at uh
went to a tent and there was uhsort of uh a steam engine sort
(30:44):
of uh thing going on and there'ssome leaflets there and I said,
hang on, this there's a heritagemuseum for steam engines in Red
Rouf, our town.
So we went there.
We went there as well.
So and it's basically andthere's like there's there's
train sets and mechanics, butit's it's a bit weird because
(31:05):
it's kind of like someone'sfarm, old farmhouse, with a
group of 60 to 90 year old sortof guys that have obviously been
told by their wives, you're notplaying with these train sets at
home.
So they've all got together andthey've you know got these train
sets of bicano sets and like allsorts of and you just go in,
(31:28):
it's it's an absolute mess, andit's an absolute health and
safety disaster for the littleones.
So we sort of like that.
He loved it, but you're like, ohwatch your head, watch your
head.
And uh but they've and they'vegot there like a they've got
like a I say a train, but it'slike an old mining train where
the engine at the front they'veattached a like old computer
(31:50):
desk onto it, so someone can sitthere and like you know get the
thing going, chuck it along witha couple carriages behind it
pulling along, and then an oldsort of like you know,
90-year-old chap, he gets in thecarriage with you, and the brake
system is literally like a apole, I suppose, in the carriage
that you sort of like push downand sort of screw it around to
(32:11):
like lock it in and sort ofthings like that, and it goes
around the field which has gotgnomes, it's got gnomes dotted
around on the track, of course,and it's yeah, it's just like a
proper and then like we had togo to take Logan to the toilet,
and the toilet is basically theback of someone's house, and
this is like a museum attractionopened up to the public.
(32:32):
But yeah, it was it was lovely.
It was it sounds very cool.
Cornish day hat.
And how do how did Logan findit?
Loved it, loved it, becausethere was uh there's one chap
there that his job is basicallyto he's got some wind up sort of
train, so he just basicallypicks up a train, winds up
sticks on the track and flies onmy track, but then there's also
(32:54):
some electric sort of poweredones, and there was a Thomas one
which he'd love, so he would sitthere and just watch this Thomas
train come around the trackevery now and again.
But yeah, absolutely loved it,and yeah, we'll go there.
We'll be going there again.
But so yeah, what's the firstlooks at steam engines and cars
in the 90s?
(33:16):
Tips for dads.
Tips for duds, tips for dads,yes.
SPEAKER_04 (33:25):
We will.
We will get our tips out for thedads.
So my uh speaking of kids, soyou've got a two and a half year
old.
Uh I have a boy who has justentered double digits.
Double digits.
Oh no, I can't believe that.
It's mad, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02 (33:39):
So I can't believe that I probably forgot and
thought he was nine, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:44):
Well, we talked about that in the last episode
as well, didn't we?
You're like, he's eight, isn'the?
Oh, what's his birthday?
So yeah, he's he's doubledigits.
So we've got a 10.
Oh, easy.
Uh I just got a text from one ofour listeners saying, John
Smith's, how old are you?
Like, I think John Smith is agreat beer to drink, while he's
right.
Time some first bites, JohnSmith, good beer.
(34:06):
I've got a massive pass.
He's eating some pork puffs andI'm drinking John Smith's beer.
So my son is double digits now,and he has, for anyone who is a
regular listener, uh know he'she's been obsessed with Lego
because of the the same guy whojust texted me abusing me for
drinking John Smith's from ayoung age has ploughed my son
(34:27):
with Lego.
I think from probably his thirdbirthday, Uncle Morggs would
always send uh Lego to my son,and my son has embraced it and
loves the Lego.
Um, but it's progressed nowwhere like he wants more
challenging stuff.
So he wanted he's he's asked forall kinds of things, and he
(34:48):
likes the big builds that takedays.
So he got for his birthday oneof these big builds made for
adults, um, with like somethingridiculous, like 12,000 bricks
or something, thinking, oh, thiswill take him a this will take
him a good couple of months.
No, no, no, it took him like twoweeks, all the whole thing.
Wow, really, and it it's likefour foot tall, and I'm just
(35:11):
like oh flipping egg.
He just he he just grind he justgrinded, he literally just like
hyper focused, just gonna grindit, grind it, grind it.
What is it?
But it was tricky, so it's likeum it's a it's a skyscraper,
effectively, from Spider-Man.
SPEAKER_03 (35:27):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (35:28):
It's called the day, it's the Daily Bugle set.
Right, um, and he's wanted itfor ages.
Yeah, yeah.
And we're like, I was like, whatdo you want for what do you want
for your birthday?
Do you want your bike?
Do you want your bike?
No, I want this Lego set.
I was like, Lego set.
Yeah, and I was like, no, not achance.
Like, so like, okay, well, ifyou want that, we can we can get
everybody, we'll all chip in,and if that's what you want,
(35:50):
we'll get it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (35:50):
So he got it, he got this for his birthday, and he
was over the moon.
He was so happy.
SPEAKER_02 (35:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (35:55):
And he just grounded out.
But it was a big build.
So like for two weeks it tookover our house because there was
just bits everywhere.
So my tips for dad today are allabout because I'm sure a lot of
people can relate to any Legopieces yet.
Yes, uh, yes, we have.
We have indeed.
So that's where one of the tipscomes from.
So Tips for Dad is all aboutLego, Lego building tips.
SPEAKER_02 (36:18):
I'm not gonna spoil that, sorry.
SPEAKER_04 (36:20):
Yeah, no, it's alright.
Uh well, that is one of thethings.
So because the pieces geteverywhere, first tip number
one, Brayden is so enthusiastic,opens the bag, tips it onto the
table.
Lego pieces, plastic onto atable, everywhere.
He's like, So, you've been doingthis for how many years now?
Like, that's a school boy areais like, oh dad, I can't believe
(36:42):
that.
I'm so like, where's my tray?
Get him this tray.
It's like get the Lego tray.
So invest in a Lego tray.
Like, get get some kind of trayor bowl.
And I was speaking to the goodwife before this is and biggest
tip organization.
She's she's drilled into aboutorganizing the pieces first,
yeah, so that you're notspending hours trying to look
for pieces.
Yeah, like a jigsaw puzzle.
(37:03):
So that was her tip to beorganized.
My tip is be gentle.
So with this skyscraper, you hadhe had to build these different
in-sections, and then you haveto put the sections on top and
you have to push them down intoplace.
But sometimes because it's sobig, you're like you pushing it,
you know, it's it doesn't justclick.
So you have to push quite hard.
And I'm not kidding, when yourchild has spent 10 days building
(37:26):
something and you're on like thefourth floor, and he's like, I
can't get this in, Dad, andyou're pushing it, you're
thinking, if I push this toohard, my whole arm's going
through the whole skyscraper.
And so be gentle, yeah, begentle with the Lego.
Did you push it?
Oh, we got it in eventually,it's fine.
Didn't break it, so it's good.
(37:46):
So yeah, be gentle.
Braden's Wallyams! Did you justmake a rude?
Did you just make Rudy?
Wally's made of Rudy.
You don't need to make Rudies.
Hey, welcome to the dark side.
Oh, you've got more productsthere, Wallyams.
(38:07):
I don't need to you don't needto make them Rudy jokes.
So Brayden said to be patient.
He said, do a bit now.
Considering he just hyperfocused and was spent like eight
hours of time just focusing onbuilding the internal workings
of this skyscraper.
His tip is to be patient.
He's like, do a bit and then goand do something else for a bit,
(38:28):
go and have some food, go andread a book, do something, and
then come back to it.
So his tip is be patient.
You know what my tip is?
He did this whole thing in twoweeks.
It's incredible.
Like if he could just focus onhis school work and his math
homework the way he focused onhis Lego, he'd be a genius.
One thing we have learned aboutLego, because do like the Lego,
it's very expensive.
(38:49):
I I think it's overpriced forwhat it is.
But the Mario sets.
So again, any parents out therewho buy their kids the Mario
sets, don't do it.
Like they don't come with a bookon how to build stuff.
So you have to like you buy theset, you're like, right, how do
we build this?
Then you have to download an appand then all the instructions
and stuff on the app.
Load of load of Tosh.
So final set, final tip isactually for Lego.
(39:11):
Just print the bloody book.
So because people need the booksto build the stuff.
We don't want to have todownload an app to then work out
how to build the bloody Lego.
We want the book.
Are you alright that one?
It was making enough noise.
Just kidding.
He's making rude jokes, he'sjust smashing around.
So, yes, that's the that's thetips for dads.
Lego, Lego, Lego.
(39:31):
Be patient, be organized, be uhgentle, and don't bother Mario
sets.
SPEAKER_02 (39:38):
Good tips.
Good tips.
SPEAKER_04 (39:40):
There we go.
SPEAKER_02 (39:41):
I think I write a tip down.
Did I write a tip down?
Did you write a tip down?
SPEAKER_04 (39:45):
You probably made a joke about a tip because you're
a dirty bugger these days.
SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
I wrote a tip down.
I said uh try to focus oneffort, not outcome.
If your little ones having a goat getting their shoes on, even
if they're on the wrong feet, orthe half tidying up, try not to
dive in and fix it straightaway.
Instead, something like, youreally gave that a good go.
Or I saw you trying.
(40:10):
Well done.
SPEAKER_03 (40:12):
Excellent.
SPEAKER_02 (40:13):
Because yeah, they're still figuring out how
the world works at their age.
Well, in terms of toddlers, thatis.
Um so whether they're stackingblocks, sharing a toy, or
helping put coffee in your mug,but putting ten spoons of it and
then pour half of it over thetable and make a mess
everywhere.
Just make sure you uh keep aneye out for the effort.
(40:35):
So well done on effort, becausethat's what matters.
SPEAKER_04 (40:40):
So are you replacing the I mean, beautiful tips and
beautiful sentiments.
I'm guessing two things.
One, that's happened, and two,have you been spending time with
the no or no?
Because he's meant to be thewise now, but you sounded very
wise there.
I did, because I wrote it down.
SPEAKER_02 (40:52):
I wrote that bit down.
So I think when I was reading itout, I think it went a bit no
know me.
But you did, you did, you wentvery neutral.
Yes, I've I've uh in themorning, um so on on the
weekends uh Georgie uh goes uhsort of teaches a swimming
lesson, so it's uh daddy and uhLogan time, and um I do get him
to help me make a coffee, um butuh he yeah, he likes to put like
(41:17):
ten spoons worth of coffee intothe cup.
Wake up, Daddy! But yeah,lovely.
SPEAKER_04 (41:27):
He's two and a half, mate.
If he's helping you do that kindof stuff, that's really cool.
Yeah, bro.
You'll love that so much aswell.
SPEAKER_02 (41:34):
Um helping you live.
Yeah, Minnie just finished offthe the episode.
So mini mini first looks.
We've seen some stuff about uhthe new Star Wars stuff like
Starfighter featuring Ken fromBarbie, oh yes, and the Grogu in
the Mandalorian, and I found outthat Yoda has a last name.
SPEAKER_04 (41:56):
Does he?
SPEAKER_02 (41:57):
Yeah, it's a Lehihu.
SPEAKER_04 (42:02):
Yoda Lehi.
SPEAKER_02 (42:06):
Yod Lehi.
Sorry, I said.
SPEAKER_04 (42:09):
Very good.
SPEAKER_02 (42:10):
Uh see you next time, Mr.
Nick.
SPEAKER_04 (42:12):
We are too dad to doing silly things.
SPEAKER_02 (42:14):
We are, we are too dad to doing silly things.
Write into outlook.com, please.
SPEAKER_04 (42:20):
Oh, yes.
Do that before we say goodbye,sorry.
Bye bye bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.
SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
Don't forget to write in to first look gnomes at
outlook.com with your own firstlooks or feedback for the fish
pond.
Help grow the show by leaving areview and subscribing.
SPEAKER_04 (42:49):
And then you'd be able to watch Destiny's Child in
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