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November 17, 2025 45 mins
On today's First Up pod: in a dominant display, Hamilton cyclist Kate McCarthy claimed back-to-back titles at the UCI Esports World Champs on Sunday - she joins us from Abu Dhabi; we talk school sand and asbestos with deputy prime minister David Seymour and Tokyo correspondent Chris Gilbert tells us about a travel agency's plan for one hour flights from Japan to America. First Up - Voice of the Nathan.
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