Fraud Fighter Podcast

Fraud Fighter Podcast

Hosted by a former white-collar federal criminal investigator, this bi-weekly podcast seeks to find the best tools, practices, opportunities, and people to answer your questions about fraud and forensic accounting. Every episode is a conversation with an expert in the fraud or forensic accounting industry who has a story to tell, ideas and wisdom to share, successes to inspire, and failures to confess. Where can you find the right credentials for your career? Where can you find the right training for you and where you want to be? What opportunities exist in the anti-fraud industry? What software or technology is available to help you in your career? If you are asking these questions, this podcast is for you.


January 16, 2023 34 min

Brian Behr is the Bankruptcy Administrator for the Eastern District of North Carolina.  The Bankruptcy Administrator's Office and the Bankruptcy Trustee's Office are similar across the country. They serve as the watchdog for the Bankruptcy Court. Very often the Bankruptcy Administrator seeks or refers fraud examiners to assist in bankruptcy proceedings.

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Tiffany Couch is an author, forensic accountant and owner of Acuity Forensics.  She has a CPA license, CFE and CFF credential.  She wrote about fraud stories in "The Thief in Your Company."

In this episode, we discuss:

  • The emotional toll on fraud victims.
  • How she started her forensic accounting business.
  • Why she wrote her book “The Thief in Your Company.”
  • And her recommendation to new forensic accountants.

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    Erin O’Loughin is the Senior Director of Training at the Association of Certified Financial Crime Specialists (ACFCS).  She has been an analyst for the CIA and financial institutions.

    In this episode we discuss:

  • How she started her career in investigating fraud and money laundering
  • How the ACFCS started
  • The role of the ACFCS in fighting fraud
  • How to qualify for the CFCS credential
  • Why learning the BSA and Patriot Ac...
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    In this short episode, there are a few updates on what is happening recently.  My new book, Criminal Tax Secrets, is published on Amazon.  Please get a copy for that special someone who needs to know how IRS-CI evaluates criminal tax investigations.  The book is a reference guide, so a paperback will serve you better than a Kindle; or just get both.

    A sister podcast (Criminal Tax Files) was created, which is all about criminal tax i...

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    J.P. Davis is a federal public defender for the Western Judicial District of North Carolina.  The federal public defender's office represents indigent clients in federal criminal court.  At times, those attorneys need experts, especially in white-collar crimes.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • The purpose of the federal public defender's office
  • Why the public defender's office needs experts
  • How forensic accou...
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    October 31, 2022 45 min

    Sam Azhari is a white collar defense attorney in Chicago, Illinois.  He represents defendants across the country.  As PPP prosecutions are pursued, Sam talks about how the fraud is committed and how the courts are evaluating the crimes.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • How fraud is committed with PPP and EIDL loans
  • The criteria used to calculate prison time
  • How forensic accountants can market themselves as experts.

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    Tod McDonald was a CPA investigating a bankruptcy case, when he uncovered the largest Ponzi scheme in the history of the Northwest United States.  Seeing the need for forensic accounting software, he co-founded Valid8, a forensic accounting software company.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • How he uncovered the largest Ponzi scheme in the Northwest US.
  • The need for forensic accounting software.
  • Why Valid8 wa...
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    Amanda "Jo" Erven is the President of Audit Consulting Education, LLC.  She is an author, trainer, and speaker on Internal Audit and Ethics.  She has a CPA and CIA license, and also a CFE credential.  Her latest book is "Becoming The Everyday Ethicist: Doing Things the Right Way the First Time", which is available on Amazon.

    In this episode, we discus...

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    A recent federal budget created funding for 87,000 IRS employees over the next 10 years.  Unfortunately, there are news reports and in speeches by elected officials, that the IRS is hiring 87,000 armed agents.  This is far from the truth.   But there is some truth that IRS does have armed agents; the IRS has a Criminal Investigation Division of approximately 2,100 special agents who have arrest powers and carry weapons.  They are a...

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    Don Fort was a former Chief of IRS-Criminal Investigation and is currently the Director of Investigations with the law firm Kostelanetz & Fink.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • His journey to becoming an IRS special agent
  • The theory to seize assets from Russian Oligarchs
  • The importance of mentors in this career
  • Having a positive attitude when you don’t get selected. 

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    Alton Sizemore has over 25 years of experience with the FBI as a special agent specializing in forensic accounting.  He is a CPA and CFE.  He also teaches courses for the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners.  At the FBI, he rose to the rank of Assistant Special Agent in Charge which he oversaw many areas of the FBI office in Birmingham, Alabama, before retiring to continue practicing as a forensic accountant.

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    The 2022 ACFE Global Fraud Conference was held in June of 2022 in Nashville, TN.  Your host, Robert Nordlander, attended the conference and gives a review of the conference, including the venue, speakers, and the event itself.  This was his first attendance of the conference so he did not know what to expect and overall gave it a thumbs up.  Although the sessions were good, most of value was not from the sessions itself but meeting...

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    In this episode, your host, Robert Nordlander, discusses the difference between a civil tax audit and a criminal tax investigation.  The stakes are at the highest in a criminal tax investigation.  Therefore, not just any CPA or forensic accountant should be hired by a taxpayer or taxpayer's attorney.  Even if the expert is a former IRS employee doesn't make them the best choice.

    There is a huge difference between a civil aud...

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    Natalie Lewis is a CPA, forensic accountant, and principal with the CPA firm Windham Brannon in Atlanta, GA.  She earned a CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics) which is an additional credential for CPAs.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • The value of the CFF credential (Certified in Financial Forensics)
  • How the CPA license and CFE credenti...
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    Mike Dunavant is the Chief Investigative Counsel for the Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury.  He is a former state prosecutor and former US Attorney for the Western District of TN.  The Comptroller is known as the "Money Cop" to ensure that fraud, waste and abuse are investigated in the state and local government.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • The role of the TN Comptroller of the Treasury
  • The aut...
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    Sandy Boxerman is a founding member of the law firm Capes Sokol in St. Louis, Missouri.  He defends individuals and corporations in white collar investigations and prosecutions.  He also represents taxpayers in civil and criminal tax matters.

    In this episode we discuss:

  • The definition of cash skimming
  • How cash skimmers are caught
  • How the IRS finds and prosecutes a cash lifestyle
  • How a...
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    Derek Benner is a former Executive Associate Director of Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and currently Managing Director of Thomson Reuters Special Services.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • The value of learning from others as a supervisor
  • HSI’s’ shift in enforcing human trafficking
  • How to distinguish yourself for a federal law enforcement job
  • How data science is increasingly important in fraud investigations
  • How Thomson Reuters Spec...
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    Tom Golden retired as a partner from PricewaterhouseCoopers.  At the end of his forensic accounting career, he started writing financial fiction thrillers inspired by real events he experienced.  His first book "Sunday Night Fears" is about his first public company audit as a new auditor where he discovered a large financial fraud.  His second book "One Honest Soul" is about his travels to a foreign country uncoveri...

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    Dr. Rich Brody is an accounting professor and department chair at the University of New Mexico.  Almost 20 years ago, he started his forensic accounting career while as an academic.  With his CFE credentials, CPA license and PhD in Accounting, he shares his insight as an expert witness and published author in forensic accounting.

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    Nick Bunch is a former Assistant United States Attorney and currently a partner with the law firm Haynes and Boone in Dallas, Texas.  One of his prosecutions was on a $17 million embezzlement from Collin Street Bakery, a Texas company that is world famous for its fruitcake.

    In this episode, we discuss:

  • The decisions a prosecutor must make in every investigation.
  • Most common misconception of...
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