Return to the Haunted Brooks Estate: The Investigation That Changed Everything

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Well hey everybody, welcome back.
Hey everyone.
I'm Logan.
And I'm Nicole.
And this is Generation X Paranormal.
Guys, we have had the kind of week that would make you um very angry or challenged.
Yeah, all of the above.
So you're getting this episode on a Friday instead of a Wednesday.

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Um, that is because it first of all, everybody in the planet's been boiling hot this week.
Yeah, awful.
Everybody everybody's complaining about the heat, but
more importantly and the worst part about it is our HVAC decided to uh depart us for awhile.
Uh right smack in the biggest heat wave in our actually I think in decades.

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Mm-hmm.
So yeah, it was it was fantastic.
So we did not want to be under lights and and around computer parts or anything of thatnature because
Too hot.
Yes, too hot.
And we would have been cranky.
I would have been very cranky.
Um, but guess what, guys?
We're here now.
Um, so we're excited to bring this to you.
Um, but before we kind of get started, um, it kind of something I wanted to bring up thatwe talked about uh as we were ending last season.

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we are available on video on a couple of the podcast platforms.
We've always been available on YouTube, and the reason I'm bringing this up is thisparticular episode is probably gonna be one of those that if you're listening
By all means listen, there's gonna be plenty of stuff for you to hear.
It's not that, it's just there are gonna be parts where you're probably gonna want towatch this.

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And what makes it kind of cool is uh with YouTube, obviously you could have always donethis, but if you're listening to it on Apple, uh, if you're listening to it on Spotify, if
you're listening to it on ah iHeart, but I don't know if iHeart does a switching thing ornot.
But anyway, Apple and Spotify, you can literally press a button which tried it, so weactually know we tested.

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To you.
you can actually hit switch to video or switch to audio.
That's gonna be important for this episode.
So please keep that in mind.
Yes.
we won't always tell you to switch, but I think you'll probably get it if we don't.
So um, other than that, guys, this is this is a big one.
This is is a huge undertaking, and it's first of it's long overdue.

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We we we've needed to do this for a while.
It's
It's unfortunately.
It's been something that we've done some time ago, but um but yeah, we're we're happy tobring it out now and I know that uh the the people that we went with are probably saying,
Well it's about time.
Yeah, they've already for long since forgotten.
But uh so yeah, what what are we talking about today?

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So we are returning to the Brooks Estate.
Brooks Estate.
And if you are familiar with the Brooks Estate, we did an episode on it on season four,episode six.
And I'm going to encourage anyone that has never listened or watched that episode to stopright now in this episode and go back and watch it.

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Yeah, or if you even want to refresh, because there's gonna be a lot of information
in that episode that will help you understand more of what happens in this episode.
It's almost like a part one, part two.
And it you know, I go over all the history and things that are claimed in in the thing,and we're not gonna take time to do that in this episode because we've already gone over

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it and we need time to show you what happened.
Yeah, guys, this is I I gotta say, and I'm not gonna tip my hat too much because you'regonna have to listen and watch, but yeah, this might be one of the most active and one of
the most well recorded document documented hauntings we've ever been a part of.

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I would agree.
Uh and I don't know if it's because, you know, for me especially, I have a specialconnection to this house, to the owners and to the spirits in this house.
I was responsible for finding a lot of the history that that the owners didn't know.
And because of that, when I looked all that up, I spent days and days and days invested inthis place.

(05:19):
And then learning of the spirits that could have possibly passed away at this home.
And I got really emotionally tied to them.
So this meant a lot, you know, and trying to figure out what happened and who could bethere and who may need help.
So I it's a passion project.
I will say it's a passion project.
And the owners, uh, Mike and Kristen have been so sweet and kind and giving, allowing usto come back and investigate it.

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And this time we got two.
Bring our good friends from AC Ghost Hunters, Chris and Anna.
Chris and Anna.
to experience because we always told them about this place.
We're like, you guys gotta come and and see what it's all about.
And they the you know obviously enjoyed themselves as well.
but this place is the Brooks Estate, and it is located in East Prairie, Missouri.

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Mm-hmm.
So it's kind of close to the Boot Hill, if you know where that's at.
Right.
Yeah.
That can area.
That area.
Um now I'm just gonna go over a just a little bit of a tiny tiny bit of the history.
Kinda have to.
Yeah, just just barely because I've covered this in detail on the other episode.

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Like I said.
So y if you've listened up this point and haven't heard the other one, please go back anddo that.
And right now it's spoilers if you if you do go back and do it.
Also that episode is available on video and audio, so you can do the same thing.
Green.
Now the house is built in nineteen eighteen.
Yes.
Okay.
By Dave Brooks.

(06:46):
Okay.
And now obviously it's owned by Mike and Kristen.
Mm-hmm.
And they run it as an Airbnb.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, aside from the Airbnb, it started as just an Airbnb, but because of the hauntings,now it is open to paranormal investigators to go investigate.
Okay.
Why is it ever?
Um now they're

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I've heard ra ramblings online of things that have been said about the Brooks estate thatI'm going to address.
And because I did the history, and I know this for sure, and when I say there isdocumented something, that means I have pen and paper, paper documents saying a certain

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thing.
There have been things said that there's document and verified
Deaths that I have no recollection of that I have never found.
So there's a number out there that there's been a lot more deaths than are actuallydocumented that I was able to find.
So if you hear these things and see these things, that doesn't necessarily mean what itis.

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I'm just gonna throw that out there.
And for those who who have those claims, please I if you have the documentation send itour way.
We're happy to happy to add that to our uh to our documentation as well.
But as far as we know, there are four documented deaths at this property.

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And those are Dave Brooks, the one that um built the house.
Right.
His daughter, Bertha Prince, she died of typhoid fever.
Um, JD Brooks was j just a little child.
I think he was only like so many months old.
Yeah.
eleven months old, I believe.
And Ernest Cranford, which is a man that lived there later.
And and he actually died on the property.

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Those are the four.
The only four that we have death certificates, newspaper articles, what have you, listingthat they died on the property.
Correct.
Okay.
Now there is one more that is just of our opinion that we feel that possibly could havedied on the property.
That is not documented.
That is an opinion.

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And that's the difference between documentation and opinion.
Okay.
And you can't.
Say even if there's a psychic reading, that is not documented, that is not verified, thatis just an opinion.
Okay, on to the arrival of us and Chris and Anna.
Yep.
to the Brooks Estate.
And we had planned on being there for two nights and one day.

(09:16):
Mm-hmm.
because we wanted to cover it, you know, as much as we could.
Right.
Um, so when we first get there, we kind of take take Chris and Anna and give them a tourof the house.
They get to meet the owners and everything.
And
What's interesting is if you listen to the last episode, it's a small house.

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It's a small interior.
You enter through the you can enter through, we usually do through the side into thekitchen.
Yeah.
And then the bathrooms right off to the left, and then living room, and there's astaircase staircase with witches' stairs, which they're offset from each other.
And you go up and then right on the left hand side there is a red bedroom.
And then you turn around and then go down the it's when I say hallway, I'm being it's likea

(10:01):
Landing.
Yeah.
Um, and there's another little bedroom in the back that's blue.
Okay.
So as we refer to these, we're going to r just red room or blue room.
Okay.
Okay.
we may change it at some point for a reason, but we're not gonna get to that right now.
But when Anna and I, I think you you and Chris were outside talking to the owner.
Yeah.

(10:21):
Um, but Anna were and I were up in the red room and in that corner I it was like a weird
gas oil smell and I was like where is this coming from it made no sense like I'd I waslike sniffing everything else like the guys are gonna walk in and like see sniffing things
it's just really weird but it did it had like an old oil lamp type gas smell kind of likeI don't know how to describe it it was really strange I couldn't find it from in you know

(10:52):
where it was coming from um but it's
Interesting because when we mentioned it to uh the owner later, she said, yeah, Isometimes smell that in this house.
Right.
Um, now there is no gas in this house.
Everything's and there's not even central heat or air, there's just like wall heaters orwindow air conditioners.

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So there's not even that, like there's no propane or anything like that.
No.
I mean that heater works really, really well.
We we found that out.
But yeah, it's not
It's really strange.
Like it it almost makes me think it's like a res residual smell.
Yeah, I mean and you'll have that from time to time.
Yeah.
And this house has been renovated.
So it's not like it's original from back in the days they would have used something likethat.

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This is so there's no there doesn't make any sense.
Um now also when we were upstairs, Anna began to get a headache.
So just keep that in mind.
She got a headache.
to d yeah, just keep that in mind.
Yeah.
Now we we end up leaving to go get some dinner, you know, because we got there a littlebit bit later.

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And that was quite a quest.
Yes.
But we had put the camera, our video camera, upstairs against the far wall, shooting downthe hallway.
So you can see the blue room at the very end of it.
You can see some chairs on the left hand side.
You can't see the red room, but it's to the right and you can see the staircase.
Okay.

(12:22):
Right.
So we have that on and we've got the tr tripwire like down the hallway, kinda like goingaround the edge of the stairs.
And then
There's a candle in the blue room, okay, on the table, an EMF candle that will go on andoff depending if EMF runs into it.
And then there's a also another candle, same thing, on the side table off to the left ofthe camera.

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And then there's a REM pod in that little buggy that's sitting there with the doll.
Yeah.
Okay.
And our our idea, well, really Chris and Anna's idea, because Chris and Anna of AC GhostHunters, they have been on several episodes with Paranormal Crust.
Yes, they have.
Mm-hmm.
And so it was their idea, hey, let's do this, because this is what Paranormal Quest alwaysdoes.

(13:06):
Yes.
And they leave the camera rolling while they're out and about.
Um, and and you'll see in this clip, we're gonna we're gonna show all this, but Chrisdecides to do what Dave of Paranormal Quest always does, which is We're leaving.
And it's super loud.
so loud.
And and and guys, and Chris knows this.

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Chris does not have what we would call a a weak voice.
Man's voice can travel.
And I'm pretty sure the roof came off, but but no, it was great.
And it I will tell you this, it was such a great homage to him.
So uh we hope they enjoy it.
Yeah, yeah.
So we're gonna play this clip.

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This is after you're gonna hear us downstairs a little bit leaving and you'll hear thecode on the door, the locking and everything.
And there's several things that happen.
So pay attention, especially this is a part if you're on audio, you need to switch tovideo.
Yeah, for sure.
Because this is mainly gonna be all video um things that you see.

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Um, but we'll talk about what's seen or heard when we
Play this clip and we'll do it right after.
There we go.
Okay.
Okay, for the cameras, the the recorder, and paranormal quest.

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We're leaving!

(15:34):
There's the wrong line for it.
oh you were at the city.
Which way do I go?
I'll stand up here so you can handle yourself.

(15:54):
Hello.
Okay, so it it's really interesting here because when we first go downstairs to get allour stuff ready to go, that tripwire lights up right by the edge of the blue room, like
right the edge of where the stair the the edge or where you would look over the banister,I should say.

(16:15):
Not where the staircase is, but the banister.
It lights up right in there, like something came out of that room and look like, hey,where are they?
Right?
It lights up right there.
It happens again.
And then of course you hear that we are leaving.
Right.
And you can hear us lock the door.
You but and then the it lights up again.
Mm-hmm.

(16:35):
So it's really interesting.
It's all around the time, like, mm, are they here?
Are they still here?
Are they still here?
Um then as you go through the video, there's some you now you're you're hearing a lot offlies, you're seeing flies, you're little buzzing and stuff, and we accounted for that.
That's not anything, okay?
But there's a several little noises like thumps and cracks.
Now you might hear some that sound like car doors shutting and stuff, and that's that'sall outside, but you can definitely tell when it's inside versus outside, which where's

(17:04):
that coming from?
Now it is an old house, so the forest could creak.
So we don't want to say necessarily that that was paranormal, but you can tell thedifference in that and movement.
That and I think I sped up quite a bit of that so that we didn't have it there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I try to keep the flying noise out of it as much as I can.
I know the fly was in the window a lot.
But um, but the tripwire, I mean, it keeps going off, it can lighting up, and the candlegoes out and it comes back on.

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Okay.
And then it goes off again.
And then you you're hearing thumps.
And then you can kind of hear or see our car lights drive up from outside.
You can hear us unlock the door.
And as we're coming in, you see those tripwire that tripwire light up again near the edgeof
That banister near that blue room.

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Um, and then as we're talking downstairs, it keeps it lights up three more times.
Now, what is interesting about this, and if you haven't listened last episode, or you mayhave forgotten since that last episode, that originally when this house was built back in
1918, or maybe even a little bit later, the current owner, when he renovated this,switched the staircase.

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So where you
Go down the staircase now used to be on the opposite side.
So if you would have been in that blue room and walked out of it and either went down youcould go down the staircase right there, or if you were just looking down to see if
someone was down there, that's where you would have walked up.
So it's so interesting to me that it's just there where it lights up most of the time.

(18:40):
It's just right on the edge, like, hmm, are they here?
Are they here?
Are they here?
It seems really like yes.
It's very, very cool that we caught that.
Um so now we decide to get all our stuff together.
We're gonna start our investigation upstairs.
And there's a specific reason for that.

(19:01):
There I I had this primary focus because there's talk about kids being in here.
And some say that there's a girl, some say there's a boy, there's two boys.
There's all these different like thoughts, right?
Um, but there was one specifically that I wasn't sure that was actually there.
I have just always felt is there and I wanted to try to reach out to him and connect withhim and see if if he responds.

(19:31):
Okay.
So we start upstairs.
Um, we leave the tripwire in the hallway where it was with the camera.
Um, we put the REM pod in the red room and our IR camera's still set up and
We put a recorder on one of the beds in the children's room.
There's well the blue room.
There's t two beds that are in there.

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We say that because there's two twin beds in there.
Um and then I am sitting so I don't even know what you call it.
There's like a little section that's off of the hallway by the banister by the blue room.
So I'm sitting right there in that little alk.
Which is probably the original landing.
Yeah, yeah, I bet it was.
Um, so that's where I'm sitting on the floor, and then you and Anna are sitting in thesitting chairs off to the left, and Chris is standing right in front of the staircase,

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which is like right in front of the red room.
Right.
Okay.
So that's where we all are.
Um, and we just kind of start talking, right?
Asking questions.
Um, but Chris sees something.
Mm-hmm.
He's like, I saw like a shadow move here.
And
you're gonna look for the trip wires.

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They light up.
Okay.
So we're gonna play this video and then we'll come back and talk about it.
Okay, I c I I don't know.
What's up?
I was looking in here.
And I swear I saw something come up and around this corner right here.
And into the room.

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And then I heard a noise over there.
Well I was I was looking that way.
Oh.
Okay.
Thank you.
Did somebody come upstairs with us?
Okay, yeah.
um
I've got a recorder that you're playing.

(21:27):
Okay, so that's that short little video, but you can see him.
I saw something there, and the trip wires light up.
Okay.
Now this next clip, we decide to pull out the DR sixty.
This is Chris's DR sixty.
And we're gonna start asking questions specifically.

(21:48):
Now what's interesting is I did not mention
Any of this to Chrisana.
No, they were cold.
They didn't know who I was wanting to connect with.
We're just reaching out to the kids.
That's what I told them.
We're just going to reach out to the kids.
Um, so you're gonna hear Anna and Chris ask different questions, okay?

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And you're gonna hear the responses.
So we're gonna play this clip of everything that we got, and it's a lot, so please.
Listen very clearly if you need to go back and and listen to it again and we'll discussabout what we heard on this recorder.
We've got a recorder here that can hopefully capture your voice if we try to communicate.

(22:59):
Oh my god.

(23:24):
So the first question is Anna and she says, Can you say your name?
We get I am William.
Yeah, it's you know, with with the DR sixty sometimes it is very difficult by design.
Yes.
But this one there was a lot of really good uh audio on that one.

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It was pretty clear.
And for for them, they're like, I hear William.
I hear William.
And I flip out.
I flip out because I know that's the name of the kid that I'm trying to contact.
They don't know they're like, Why is there William?
And some of this stuff we're not including, but this is just in the moment of whathappened.
Okay.
Um and Anna says, Can you see us?

(24:10):
Yes.
can you tell me how old you are?
Chris's question.
Yes.
Eleven.
And honestly, because I did not, I did on purpose, I did not go and look at my notes aboutthe Brooks Estate.
Like I knew the basics, but I couldn't remember specifics about every person or you know,stuff like that.

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So I couldn't remember how old he was.
And when they they, you know, this is not on the screen because we had to cut a lot ofthis out in order to fit it in the podcast, but they're and they're like,
How old was he?
I'm like, I don't remember.
And I had to go back and look later to see how old he was.
And the fact that we got yes, 11, he was 11 when he passed away.

(24:56):
So that's crazy.
Um, and we're gonna put, you know, I've got information about him here in a second.
Um, and Chris asked, Do you like when people come visit you?
Yes, I do.
It's nice.
That's so cute.
Yeah, it is I love that so much, and then Anna.
What's your favorite this is a question Anna asks everywhere she goes on.
It's her her her main question she asks every spirit and it is really, really cool.

(25:21):
Sometimes yeah but she more the more the cookie thing.
But what's your favorite cookie?
Chocolate chip cookie.
Yeah, and the cookie part's kind of fast, but
Well, and he speaks really fast.
So that's the thing.
It we even had to take these and slow them down and elongate some of the words in orderfor you guys to hear them because in the moment we don't catch all of them because they he

(25:43):
talks so fast, just like an excited kid would talk, right?
Like ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
And so on it coming through a DR60, it's it's really difficult to hear.
So we did a lot of audio work on it to try to understand what he was saying.
Right.
And a lot of this we didn't know until after the fact.
Just keep that in mind.
Like in the moment you may hear us like guessing as to what we hear and it's completelydifferent from what we show you.

(26:04):
It's because we're not understanding it in the moment.
And that that happens so much in investigations.
Um, after you you analyze, you know, video.
It's not that we're trying to make things up, it's just what it is.
Because you just and we also influence each other.
If one person says, I hear this, then that's all the other person can hear.
Yeah.
So
That's easy to do.

(26:25):
It's so easy to do and especially when things are going on, you're like, and you'rehearing crackling coming through a recorder.
It's like, you can your mind can sometimes create yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Um, so that's that that that one right there is just amazing in itself that we got thatmany answers.
I mean

(26:45):
I would say that in an investigation is almost the investigation.
done.
This this is cool.
But that's not all.
I mean, and he was talking, actively talking to us.
So there was more things that I wanted to know to clarify.
So we're gonna play this next clip, but you're gonna hear uh Chris and Anna asking acouple more questions because they're closer to the recorder there, you know, because I'm

(27:10):
on the other end, but um Chris asks, Can you tell me what year you lived here?
Yep.
And this is the thing with the spirit of William or who I thought William might be.
I don't have any documentation that says this kid ever lived at this property.

(27:32):
Nope.
Or that he ever died at this property, or that he even knew the people that lived at thisproperty at this time period.
I've just always had a feeling somehow because of one thing that happened that we'll getto.
Okay.
Um so listen for that.
And then there's there's a knock in there.

(27:53):
It's very faint.
And then Anna, can you tell us your last name?
And mind you, Chris and Anna don't know these answers.
Okay.
Um, so let's play this and then we'll talk about it.
Yeah.

(28:21):
I heard something that's.
It's like something something.
Something something.
Mm-hmm.
uh
So you hear Chris, can you tell me what year you lived here?
And in the moment we heard there's three of us that heard different things.

(28:47):
Because he talks so fast and it was like and we all said different things and
Honestly, I didn't even wager a guess because he talks so fast, I'm like, I think it'sthis.
Yeah.
But we all heard different numbers at different times and when we slowed it down andraised the the volume and you know did what we had to do in order to figure it out, we get

(29:12):
nineteen thirty six.
Yep.
And what is absolutely insane about this is this would be a year that he would have beenliving.
This was not the year that he passed away, but it's very close to the year that he passedaway.
And if it's the situation I'm kind of thinking happened, would make sense.

(29:36):
Yeah.
Um, and or it could just be the last year that he remembers being alive as well.
And you also have to take the questions that we ask literal.
this is one thing that we've learned for from a friend of ours is like you gotta thinkabout when you ask questions, they're gonna take it literally.
You know, what was the last year you were uh at this house or alive?

(30:00):
They're gonna think about the whole year.
Right.
Because the year that he passed away was not a full year.
Right.
So I don't know literally like, you know, how he how he looked at it, 'cause he would havelived there a full year maybe.
Which would have been 1936, because he actually passed away in August of 1937.
If this is the spirit we think we're contacting.

(30:21):
Right.
Okay.
Um, can you tell us your last name?
We did not hear this in the moment.
Oh my god, when we got it back here and did It was Brooks.
Yeah.
Now, yes, this is the Brooks estate.
Mm-hmm.

(30:42):
It is the Brooks estate named after Brooks.
Person that built the home, Dave Brooks.
Right.
But the this young man, William Brooks Junior, is somebody, and if you've watched theprevious episode, you know exactly who I'm talking about, was almost eleven years old when

(31:02):
he passed away.
But you know, he was very close to eleven, so they just assume, you know, how kids willalways be like, I'm eleven.
Yeah.
I do the opposite.
He died in August of nineteen thirty seven.
But I can't find a connection to the main David Brooks family.
Right.
But they're in a small farming community.

(31:24):
If they have the same last name and his dad's name was William Brooks Sr., I'm going toassume, now I haven't found the connection yet.
I have been going through tons of research trying to connect these families together, andI have not yet found it.
But that doesn't mean I'm giving up.
Because I feel like in some way, shape or form they are related in some way and they wereprobably spent time at this um at this home together.

(31:54):
For sure.
That's my personal opinion.
I mean it's not unfounded.
It's not like it's a huge town and especially in that time.
Right.
And I mean, how many brooks do you think could have actually been there?
I know.
And well, and there's another which we're gonna get to.
I'll I'm gonna save for for the reveal here in a second.
Which is not something I previously knew.

(32:15):
I assumed, but I did not previously know.
Right.
That's a bigger thing.
Yeah.
But there's another reason why I think.
Okay.
So it was Brooks.
So now we've got him saying his first name's William.
His last name is Brooks.
And he lived there in nineteen thirty six.
Yes, I'm eleven.
Okay, so we've got all the things matching the documentation that I have about this kid.

(32:38):
Yeah.
And so of course, in the moment I don't know half of this stuff.
I only got the William.
I was just excited to get to get that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now we're gonna play this la this next it's not the last cut, this next clip.
Um
And then we're going to talk about
William, if you can hear me still, can you do something else to let us know that you'rehere?

(33:03):
Triple R just.
Tri R just went crazy.
Thank you.
William, did your family call you Billy?
It's triple error.
Well, he just confirmed it so maybe he can tell it.

(33:25):
So before we get the recorder back out, you know, Chris's like, William, are you stillhere?
Tripwire lights up, right?
And then I, you know, there's been this name sometimes heard at the estate.
And I was like, before we thought it was something else, but I was like, this wouldactually make sense because this is a nickname, a nickname for William.

(33:49):
You know, ever
I have a nickname for my name that my family called me and still calls me.
They don't call me by Nicole.
So I'm like, you know, let's let's see if this is the same spirit.
I'm like, did they call did your family call you Billy?
Tripwire lights up.
Yep.
Now you can't see it because we've got the camera up, but you can see us reaction.

(34:10):
You can kind of see the flash, but you see us react to it.
And then we decide, okay, we're gonna ask this again on the actual recorder, see if we canget a response.
So this next one we're gonna play for you, you're gonna hear Chris asking about thenickname or what the family might have called you.
Um, I wanna know what color his hair was.
Mm-hmm.
For a specific reason, I'll get to.

(34:32):
And I wanna know if he actually lived in this house because we don't know this, like I waspreviously talking about.
So let's play this and hear the responses and then we'll go over it.
Let's do it.
For what you're uh

(35:03):
Heard it.
Heard it.
Yeah?
Billy Heard it.
Said Billy Wow.
That was loud.
Wow.

(35:38):
So can you tell us what color your hair was?
uh
uh In this house.

(35:58):
In this house, yeah.
It's fast.
He talks really fast.
Which would make sense for a kid too.
Yeah, he talks really fast.
his house.
Yeah, a kid a kid would make it would make sense for a kid to kinda like I didn't hearanything but say it quick.
Okay, so Chris S nickname or family, what your family might have called you.

(36:20):
And I and Chris was the first one to point out it sounded like we're you heard that firstpart.
Yes, Billy.
And Chris turned the recorder off right there because we just got Billy and it like youcould see all our reactions.
I freak out honestly like a freaking out.
You can hear all of us like, my god, I can't believe we actually got that.

(36:42):
And it was so clear.
Yes, Billy.
Yeah.
Just amazing.
I was so excited, I could not believe it.
And he had already flashed the lights.
Like he lit up.
And so that was so cool.
But Chris had turned the recorder off too soon because there was more.
Yeah.
So when we go back through to actually listen to all the questions, we get more.

(37:06):
What do we ever?
So what did the family call you?
He says his first, his middle.
And his last name.
Mm-hmm.
And this was not something that I knew.
I did not know his middle name.
All we had was an L on his death certificate.
And that could be anything.

(37:27):
But like I was talking about before, here's the the spoiler.
He says, Yes, Billy Leonard Brooks.
On the recorder.
And what's interesting about this is
Leonard is a family name known in the Brooks family.
So David Brooks, the person that built the house, his son's name was Leonard Brooks.

(37:53):
Yeah.
So I don't know for sure.
I mean, besides what Billy is telling us here, that his William L.
Brooks was Leonard, but I'm going to just assume because as I'm going back in the familyhistories of both this line and David Brooks's line.
There's a lot of names that repeat.
There's William repeats, Leonard repeats, Thomas repeats.

(38:15):
There's a lot of repeating names and that's typical.
Back in those days like John, John Juniors and all these yeah, it was
got William Sr., William J Jr.
who we're talking about, this Billy.
We've got a Leonard here and a Leonard over here.
So I'm I know they've got to be related somehow.
I just haven't figured.
uh And it can get confusing.

(38:37):
Yeah, if you don't pay attention to the years or alive, it gets really confusing.
So the fact that I did not know that, we didn't know his mental name, that was just I knowit was so cool to get that.
Billy Leonard Brooks.
Um
I asked what color was your hair?
Now, in the moment we couldn't hear it.
No.
It took a lot of us listening to it and slowing things down.

(39:02):
And I also, you know, we discussed it in the moment was is a little kid in that timeperiod going to know how to describe his kind of his hair?
But those of you who don't know this about me, I have worked with children most of my lifebefore doing this.
So I know how a kid would answer this if they don't know the actual term.

(39:27):
And what we get here is exactly how a kid would answer if they don't know how to describeit.
Right.
Kinda yellow, kinda not.
Mm-hmm.
So blonde, but not quite blonde.
So probably like darker.
So I think he's describing like a a a

(39:49):
Dark blonde or like a sandy bro you know, sandy blonde type of hair.
Sure.
oh
Right.
It's not like it's my hair, kinda there, kinda not.
Right.
So I was like, oh, that's so cool.
And I thought in the moment when I was standing there, I was like, I feel like I hear helike I said it to myself, like yellow, but I don't want to say that because I don't know

(40:14):
for sure.
Right.
And I just kind of had it in my head, like that, that's what I felt like his hair colorwas.
Yeah.
For a specific reason.
Because there is a picture, which we'll put it up here, that previously this security camof the Brooks Estate caught of a a spirit child on the front porch that looks like his
hair.
Could be blonde.
Kinda.

(40:35):
And what kinda.
Kinda yellow.
Kinda not.
And you can see the grass blades through through the head.
So it's not just it's just not a kid on the front porch.
Right.
It's kinda crazy.
Kinda crazy.
Kinda's gonna be my reward now.
It is.
Pay attention to this answer because this is not the first time something like this comesup.

(40:56):
Because we don't hear this in the moment.
So later in the investigation, we're still trying to find out the answer to this.
Okay.
Yeah, and even the recording, it it was tough.
We I had to clean it up quite a bit, so it sounds it's a little modulated, but you canhear the the I guess the the vowels not the vowels, the the word I'm looking for,
syllables.
Thank you.

(41:17):
Guys, it was hot this week, okay?
I think our brain did fried my brain.
The next question Did you live in this house?
In this house.
He actually cuts me off in this house.
Which is interesting.
I don't think I'll ever be able to find the evidence of that, but it answered my question.

(41:39):
Mm-hmm.
It's like, why was he here?
It doesn't make any sense.
Okay.
Um now we are gonna go on to talking about Billy and William.
Okay.
Billy William.
However you want to call him.
Billy.
So I'm gonna put up here on the screen.

(42:04):
Well, maybe we should talk about this first.
And we're not gonna play the video because it's on the previous um podcast that we did.
But it's from the owner providing the security cam footage of something he caught in themiddle of the night, in the middle of a rainstorm.
He caught what we think is a residual conversation of a tragic moment.

(42:30):
Tragic.
When we first heard this, I m chills went
From toes to head.
Yeah.
Cause I was like, how can this not be actually people outside talking?
Like it just doesn't at first.
Yeah.
And then you hear this conversation, and then you hear this old radio kick on inside thehouse playing this song about a phantom trucker, just crazy in the first that doesn't have

(42:55):
any guts to it.
So it can't play.
It doesn't play.
It's still there inside the house.
Transistors are literally literally in a box.
Yes.
So it's crazy.
And I I poured over this for days.
We actually sent it to my cousin who does a music for our podcast.
Thank you, Eric.
We love you.
Um, and he sent it back in order for me to be, you know, better understand it.

(43:20):
And I I finally broke it down.
I didn't fully understand the whole conversation, but you hear two men talking, you hear achild, and
You hear the anguish in one of the male voices, and you hear the kid crying out help.

(43:42):
Okay.
And it's a conversation about something's happening.
Someone's saying it's in his foot.
It's in his foot.
Um, I the other one's saying, I don't think he's gonna make it.
You waited too long, it's too far.
Right?
Yeah.
And then you hear the kid cry out.
And oh it makes me emotional.

(44:04):
And I was like, when I heard that, I had to get the ball.
What is this?
Why is this recorded?
This is like a tragic moment, is all I could think.
And then when I started doing research about the family, and I was looking for the Brooksand this this and that, because they were the original family, I came across this William
Brooks Junior.

(44:26):
And this poor little guy passed away from malaria.
Yeah.
And I was like, okay, but I can't he's not connected to the house.
And I just kept that information back for later.
And then when we got this video and I went through this.
And that in his foot, in his foot thing, I was like, it was driving me crazy.

(44:47):
Like, what does that mean?
That I've got to figure out what this conversation is about.
And that he's not going to make it.
It's too far.
That stuck out to me.
Like, somebody's dying here.
Yeah.
What could be in his foot that makes no sense?
And I went over this extensively in the past podcast, but for these new listeners that maynot have heard it.

(45:08):
but they should have gone back.
should have gone back.
But if you haven't, I was like, could this be this kid?
I don't know why.
I don't know why I thought it could be him, but I did.
There was just something it didn't match any other death certificates of the people thatwe knew and I'm just like, I just what is m what is this?

(45:31):
So I think I I typed in like malaria and foot do with the foot.
Well it turns out you know malaria is caused by a mosquito bite, right?
They're in a marshy area.
It's very, you know, it could have happened.
They're absolutely happened.
Absolutely could have gotten malaria from from that area, especially at that time.
They're farmers.

(45:52):
And apparently in children, they get malaria.
If it gets bad enough, it cuts off circulation and causes gangrene in the foot.
And if it is not treated right away, these are farmers, they're very, very far away from.
you know, especially in that time period in the thirties, to get somewhere, there's nthere's no close thing.

(46:13):
They're in wagons, there's not or horses, there's no cars, right?
If you don't amputate that foot, yeah, the body goes into sepsis and they die a horribledeath.
Absolutely horrible.
And when I found that, I flipped out.
Yeah.
Because and and since that point I was like, this kid is here.

(46:36):
Mm-hmm.
This kid somehow passed away here.
Why he was here, I don't know.
But I I feel like if it's family, and I said this on the previous one, if he was if yourkid's actively dying, who do you go to?
You go to the family members d for help.
Like or maybe they took care of him there while he was sick.
I don't know.

(46:56):
Because malaria can take a while to pass away from it.
So
The answer of him saying, What year did you live here?
Nineteen thirty-six.
He died in August nineteen thirty seven, Matt.
Maybe that's the last year he remembered he was alive or the last full I I don't know.
But staying there for maybe months on end, he lived there.
Yeah.
In his eyes, he lived there.

(47:17):
Yeah.
So I don't know.
This is all speculation.
This is all just opinion.
I can't verify any of this.
No any of this connection.
I
Just or maybe he's just connected that because it was his family's home and after hisdeath he came back because that's where he felt at home.
It ju could just be that.
But I feel this is who we were speaking to.

(47:39):
I feel like this is the person giving us the answers.
And that little guy talked to us.
A lot.
A lot.
And I just I'm so grateful.
It actually just it a lot of emotion because he was the one I wanted to connect with themost.
So the fact that he answered all of our questions.
I was so grateful for it.
So happy.

(47:59):
Um enough about that.
But I wanted to provide that information because, you know, some good information.
And the fact that he answered us.
So yeah.
So that's that's Billy and William.
So we we ended our investigation upstairs and we decided to move it to the living roomdownstairs.
And it's just a tiny living room, you know.
Um Chris and Anna are sitting on the couch against the left wall.

(48:22):
Logan is in the chair in the corner.
And I'm in the rocking chair sitting next to Logan.
And then we also have a reported haunted doll that's in the space.
We've moved her in a rocking chair right next to me.
Because we can't sit her next to Logan because he doesn't like dolls.
But she's she's sitting there.
We've got the K two in her lap.

(48:43):
Um in case it spikes or anything to keep an eye on.
We've got the camera pointing into the living room.
Now there are some things
off camera that you can't see.
There's an EMF candle and there's a Chris Anata's music box or is sitting on a chair rightin front of the piano, which is such is up against the wall right in front of the
bathroom.
Okay.
Um but we figure we'll hear hear the music box if it goes off.

(49:07):
Okay.
So we just start trying to make communic, you know, having communication with whoever isthere.
Okay.
So this is how we kind of open this up.
And we also I think have the tripwire on the floor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the ovulus is there too.
Mm-hmm.
Um now.

(49:28):
We are going to just play this first clip and then we'll talk about it.
Can you rock at all?
Can you push it and let it move a little bit?
You can push me and let me move.
But I might go to sleep.
Do you hear that not?
Yep.

(49:51):
Can push push the rocker that I'm sitting in or push the rocker that the doll is sittingin.
That might be easier.
something flip.
Yep.
Yep.
You can come out here.
I see you peeking around the corner.
Like from the kitchen or from the bathroom?
Bathroom.
Like high up top?

(50:12):
Nope.
size?
Like right in the knob?
Yeah, just higher than the knob.
Oh you see that?
Did you see it?
Mm-hmm.
What was it?
Was that door moving?
I can't see.
No.
I don't remember.

(50:33):
On the the the right side of the door frame.
Back side of the door frame.
You were looking at the door itself?
I was looking at the door itself because I felt like the door was mummy.
No, no, I haven't seen the door.
Can you come out and talk with us?

(50:53):
Okay, we're we just won't pay attention, so maybe you'll come over here.
What was that?
That was I think I think.
It wasn't the tripwire.
It seemed like it was
there's a little slight knock.
It's very, very low.
Um we tried to raise it in case you you know for you to hear it.
Um the K2 flickered on the doll or next to the doll.

(51:15):
And then Chris starts seeing something to his right in like the doorway of the bathroom.
And this is not something yeah, this is not something that is new to this place.
No.
Um they've actually got a picture of a shadow figure in front of the bathroom.
So
For him to he doesn't know this.
So he's picking up he's seeing something.

(51:37):
He keeps seeing something.
So you he'll keep his eyes over there for a while.
And then we got the K two to flicker again.
Okay, so this next clip is, you know, we're talking about the doll.
Can you push the doll?
Can you rock the doll?
Um, and just pay pay attention to what happens.
You're still trying to rock the doll.
Do you want to lose in the bathroom?

(52:01):
Give it a little push.
I saw that, a little reflection of her shoe.
Give it a little push.
One big push.
Whoa.
Yep.
Yeah, but the link pretty good.

(52:23):
Yeah, that looked pretty good.
We're doing great.
Keep trying.
Yeah.
Okay, so we got some K two.
I mean it's not anything extravagant, but the fact that I'm asking for them to rock thedoll and then that keeps going off.
Right.
K two on its own isn't extravagant.

(52:44):
But when it's when it's being done by command, then it becomes a little bit more
A little different.
Yeah.
And they're just slight fluctuations, but it was enough to to keep it in here.
Right.
Now this next part is one of my favorite parts of the investigation.
And it's we love you, Anna.
But we had to keep it included because something actually amazing happens here.

(53:09):
Okay, so to set this up, Anna decides she has to really use the bathroom.
Okay.
But no.
it's it's not uh graphic or anything like that.
I know we love you much more than to do do that to you, but
Yeah.
It's it's really cool actually.
So because Chris keeps seeing something in the door of the bathroom, she's like beenholding herself all this time.

(53:33):
She doesn't want to go over there.
But she decides, okay, I have to now.
It's like at a have to place.
And so of course we're laughing about it.
You're you know, you're gonna hear her go over there and she's gonna pass by the musicbox, so it's going to set it off.
That's not what you're listening for.
Once she is in the bathroom.

(53:53):
Then pay attention.
So we're gonna play this clip and we'll talk about it.
I think I called Platty, but I'm afraid.
What the one?
Like can you come out so Anna can use the bathroom?
She needs privacy.

(54:13):
eh You don't want to see a girl go to the bathroom.
Come out please.
She's gonna use the bathroom.
Oh my god, man.
You can go in the kitchen if you need to.
Candle went on.

(54:34):
Thank you.
Thank you for coming out.
You're good, Anna.
Thank you.
Just give her a few minutes, okay?

(55:00):
You're okay.
They're trying to get in the door.
Freak out.
Wait your turn.
Ha.
Can you knock on the door really loud?
If this door fucking opens, I swear.

(55:22):
Be the best paranormal night of our lives.
Maybe not for her.
She's in the right place to have an incident.
Exactly.
It was spooky.

(55:42):
It was definitely waiting its turn.
Okay.
So I love this so much because I'm like, okay, if they're hanging out in the bathroom, sheneeds to use it.
Can you please come out, let her use the bathroom, and then you, you know, go hide in thekitchen or whatever you need to do in the in the moment, right?

(56:04):
And what's so amazing about this is what I think happens is she goes in the bathroom, itslips out.
And after she's already shut the door, you hear that music box go off.
And this is only what, four or five feet maybe not that far away from the bathroom door.
And what I love is you it was so fun for us.
You hear Anna like, she's so scared.

(56:26):
Cause she can hear it on the side other side of the door going off, you know?
Yeah.
And and then of course, you know, Chris is like, Well, knock on the door.
And I'm like, she would have lost, lost her ever loving mind.
But it was just a fun moment and it's so cool because they did.
They did exactly what we asked them to do.
I think I even made a comment that if something scared her, she's in the right spot.
She's okay.

(56:48):
But it's it's just really cool.
I think like, you know, we asked them politely, please come out because she needs to useit.
They did exactly what we asked them to do.
They sure did.
Um, so uh that it was just a fun moment that we wanted to in include in this evidence.
Okay.
So we're gonna go into the next one.
Um when as Anna's coming back, she's walking on the and what's interesting about thisarea, there's always something weird going on in this area of the living room.

(57:15):
Uh and and we actually talk about it a little bit in the first episode.
Yeah.
Um, but she's walking and you can hear these like th three thumps.
It's like boom boom boom.
And at first we all thought it was just her walking, but you know, we have have her testit.
So listen for this and then after that happens, we're like try to get them to do it again.

(57:36):
So listen to what happens and we'll talk about it.
The light is solid and Okay, then I think you're in good shape.
That's how our Zoom is.
Yeah.
What was that?
Uh I don't know.
That was upstairs.
Yeah.
What back again.

(58:09):
It was like boom boom boom boom boom.
No, I don't know.
It was like boom boom boom boom.
Maybe it was outside.
No, that was not outside.
That was up.
It sounded like it was in here.
It sounded like like drunks.
Yeah, it didn't sound upstairs.
It sounded like right here.

(58:30):
Well, like I'm saying like the ceiling.
Yeah, it could have been right above us.
Can you do that again?
No one it was.
Were you rolling your ball upstairs?
Okay, so obviously she walks back and forth.

(58:52):
We don't hear that sound again.
And it does.
It sounds like a a drum.
Do do do.
It sounds like something fell and kinda kept going.
and I think it's coming from upstairs.
Like me and Chris heard it from upstairs.
And what's also said about the upstairs is the kid likes to play ball.
Yeah.
And bounce things.
So the boom boom boom could have been that.
And what's great about this is like I ask, can you make that sound again?

(59:15):
Can you make that sound again?
And I hear it boom boom boom boom right above us.
Yeah.
So so cool.
So cool.
guys, and I know that I know a lot of people are saying, Boy, they get some this place isjust it's that kind of thing.

(59:36):
I also think it's our connection to the place.
I think that makes makes a lot of sense here to to these spirits.
Um so this next part is really interesting.
Okay.
So we're getting ready to start a DR60 session and Anna out of nowhere.

(59:58):
Way out of nowhere.
Asks this question, which we're not gonna say.
We're gonna let you watch the video.
And it's like
You'll see our reaction, like, why did you ask that?
Because Anna is very intuitive.
She is.
And she she pulls this stuff out all the time when we're with her.
She's an amazing individual.
and I always pay attention when she thinks thinks or feels something because there'susually a reason.

(01:00:21):
so you'll hear her ask a question and then you're gonna we're gonna play this um DR60session.
Now, this DR60 session.
Is very interesting.
Very interesting.
And I want to preface this with there's nothing bad at this place.
No.
S sometimes spirits are misunderstood for certain reasons, but we're gonna discuss this.

(01:00:45):
But we all all of us are asking questions, but we're basically trying to figure out likewhat's your name and can we help you?
Um, the question that Anna wanted to know is in there.
um
Is there anything that the owners can do to make you feel more comfortable here?
Is there anything we can do?

(01:01:06):
Um, Logan, you feel sick.
You're like, are you making me feel this way?
I personally think it was our food choice that day, but that's yeah.
And then we hear a certain something, and so we're like trying to verify, is this whatwe're hearing?
And they verify it.
Yes, okay.
So we're gonna play this session for you.

(01:01:27):
How can we help you, Paul?
Mm-hmm.
There you go.
Okay, great.
Thank you.
Can you use that box over there by Anna to tell us what your name is?
Or you can tell us what you need.

(01:01:47):
Is it too close to me?
Yes, I see.
Should I put it somewhere else?
Next to Wogan, since he's feeling the cold grease.
Yeah, it's definitely cool over here.
Feel the top of his book.
Perfect, actually.
Yeah.

(01:02:08):
Do you need a blessing?
Where did that come from?
I don't know I don't know.
That's interesting though.
I don't know if it's like what they need.
I know.
It's it's that's not a question that you've ever asked, I don't think.
That is interesting.

(01:02:31):
I mean like Everest.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I don't know.
It came out very strong too, like immediate.
So what you need?
If it is, you can touch any of the equipment to let us know that you you want a blessing.

(01:02:54):
You want us to pray for for you or for something.
Alright, let's try another let's try another session with the recorder.
Billy was using it earlier.
I don't know who's here now, but I'm going to set it down right here and turn it on.

(01:03:18):
It's that little red light there.
And that little recorder, in that little silver box.
Whoever's here, can you let us know by telling us your name?
Can we help you in something?
Do you need a blessing?

(01:03:38):
Is there something Michael and Kristen can do here at the property that would make youfeel better?
Is there anything we can do for you?
Are you making me feel sick?
Thank you.
We're gonna listen back now and see if you

(01:03:58):
Communicated with us.

(01:05:24):
Jesus.
All right.
If you can tell us your name and be very clear on that recorder.
And tell us why we need to leave.

(01:05:45):
Why do you want us to leave?
Did we talk to somebody earlier that we weren't supposed to talk to?
Do you hear all the noise upstairs?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, I just wanna make sure it wasn't.
I didn't want to say anything.
uh

(01:06:43):
With this, we get a name.
It is very rare to get a name.
The fact that we got William's name upstairs already, and then we get this name.
And I'm gonna say this, I never thought this individual was here.
We always thought, 'cause there's this a understanding in this place that there's a malespirit that's kind of cranky and grumpy and you know, doesn't like people in the house and

(01:07:09):
stuff, and there's always talk about this.
We always assumed it was a different individual.
Mm-hmm.
And so that's what we were expecting to get.
And when we got this name, I was like, whoa.
And we did not hear this obviously in the moment.
We
heard it, this investigation would have been told.
Completely different direction.
Um, we didn't find this out till we got home.

(01:07:30):
So we're gonna go over the questions in case if you're on audio and didn't hear theresponses, so you know what's said.
Okay.
And then we'll talk about who this person is.
Okay.
So Chris says, tell us your name.
I'm David Brooks.
That's the name.
Yes.
I'm d and the full name.
Yeah.
Not just first name.

(01:07:52):
Anna, can we help you with something?
Bless me.
And remember what she said?
Just cr you need a blessing?
See?
Little intuitive thing.
uh She's so intuitive.
Um, Logan, do you need a blessing?
Yes, please.
Then I wanna know, is there something that Michael and Kristen can do here at the propertythat would make you feel better?

(01:08:13):
Because I al have always felt like
You know, you want to do your best to try to make them happy, and that's how they feel.
They want to make sure that the spirits of their house are in a good place and feel happy.
Give back my peace and quiet.
And that's and you can hear quiet.
Give back my peace and quiet.

(01:08:36):
And then is there anything we can do for you?
Yes.
Blessing.
um And let me say this.
I feel like
We're speaking to two different ones.
Yeah, it's I feel like the blessing part is coming from one and this other stuff's comingfrom David.
Correct.
So yes, or I'm David Brooks, but the blessing, the the all that stuff is coming from adifferent spirit.

(01:08:58):
We assume.
Yeah.
because of the way th things go here a second.
And then Logan, are you making me feel sick?
Quiet.
It's not me.
Yeah, it was a little
Mm.
He's he knows that Logan likes to get dramatic.
Then we get get out.

(01:09:19):
Get out.
Um, and Chris, tell us your name and why do we need to leave?
Get out.
Because we're starting, we heard the get out, and so we're like, okay, who are you and whydo we need to leave?
Get out.
And then Chris is thinking, okay.
We talked to William upstairs.
Is somebody mad that we talked to William?
Because there's there's a history in this house of some suppression in the past that wehave found with spirits and not not allowing them to talk.

(01:09:47):
So he's going off of that.
Like, did we talk to someone earlier we weren't supposed to talk to?
Everyone get out of my house now.
My house now.
Yeah.
Like, and he stresses my house.
Yeah.
Now.

(01:10:07):
Like everybody, get out of my house now.
My house now.
So David Brooks, as I've mentioned before, this is the reason this place is called theBrooks Estate.
He is the one that bought it and built it and lived in it.
Until he passed away in it.
Okay.
And he passed it down to his son, who is Leonard Brooks.

(01:10:29):
Mm-hmm.
Now, something about David, he was a w you know, well established member of the community.
He was a farmer.
And I believe he was about seventy-four years of age.
And he died in the home of a brain hemorrhage.
So he went instantly.
Yeah.
Like I think on his death the certificate, which we're gonna put up here, it was likewithin ten to eleven minutes that he was but he was probably not conscious that entire

(01:10:52):
time.
He probably just boom.
Um, so if you build a home and you live in it all those years and then you pass away init, this is his home.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter whether you passed away, but this is his house.
This is where he wants to be.
And he's got people coming in and out of it, asking all sorts of questions.

(01:11:13):
So give me my back my peace and quiet does kind of make sense.
Like he just wants to be left alone.
This is his house.
Not at any point did any of us get hurt.
He didn't try to scare us.
He's just Hey, I don't want you here.
Yeah.
Leave.
I get.
Mm-hmm.
yeah, and the one thing I kind of want to touch upon, and this is a pretty personal thing.

(01:11:37):
Uh those who know me know that I've I survived a brain bleed.
And when when you say those 10-11 minutes, whatever it is, if if there's any consolationto anybody, and I hope certainly hope it was this way for David, it was literally there
one second, gone the next.
It's so fast that

(01:11:59):
You're there is no idea of anything.
Again, I have the incredible extreme luxury of having come back from it.
David did not.
And you can only imagine that that kind of separation from your life and thatinstantaneous.
If if you're under the belief structure like we are that there is something afterwards,and you're still conscious and some part of you is still there, you are gonna be pissed.

(01:12:24):
Cause there's a lot of answers, a lot of I mean.
You were literally seconds ago living your life.
And now all of a sudden you're not.
Now, granted, that happens a lot and other things, you know, that are violent and thingslike that that won't get into.
But in this particular instance, I can empathize because I've been through what he wentthrough.
Again, I was just lucky to come out the other side.

(01:12:44):
So when people say that it that there's some evil in it, no, it's just freaking pissed.
You know, I mean th try to put yourself in his position.
If you had kind of what Nicole was talking about, you just built this house, it's for yourfamily, you're you're an upstanding uh member of the community, and you are living a life

(01:13:06):
that is worth living.
And it is taking you so abruptly, I I gotta think you are going to have a very angryperson on the other end of that.
Well, and it's just that he was in peace probably for a while until now all theseinvestigators are coming who are you?
Who uh right?
And he he just wants he just wants to whatever they do on the other side, that's what hewants to do.

(01:13:29):
keep thinking of the Clint Eastwood Get Off My Lawn kind of thing, you know?
I mean that's kinda what it is.
is.
Um now we've got one more um clip here 'cause Chris wants to know why he's 'cause we canhear he's angry.
Like get out, get out, get out of my house.
So we're gonna play that real quick for you here.
Okay, we're gonna try this again.

(01:13:51):
So Jeez.
What the fuck?
It's a shotgun.
Wow.
Yeah, it's a shotgun.
Shotgun.
That was loud.
I felt like it went through me.
Yeah, they're loud.
Jeez.
That was close.
Yeah, the ball goes off.
Okay.
So let's try this one more time.
Why are you so angry?

(01:14:28):
Okay, so Chris wants to know, why are you so hangry?
Yeah.
I mean He's not answering our questions anymore, he's just telling us to get out.
It's a one it's a one way conversation now.
Which thankfully, even though we didn't under we heard the get out, but after this wasover, we did get out.
Yeah, we did.
We respected the get out.

(01:14:48):
No, we did come back the next day, but we were staying in a hotel.
Mm-hmm.
But we did leave, left him in peace for the night, and r decided to return the next day.
Mhm.
Okay.
Now Logan and I um let Chris and Anna investigate for a little while at the house bythemselves because
We really wanted to go to the cemetery where a lot of the people that that at least wehave documents for that passed away their their graves are.

(01:15:16):
Okay.
And I really, really wanted to find the Brooks family and I wanted to find Billy.
We'll call him just Billy to keep the the differences.
I wanted to find his grave.
Um now we went there.
we did find Ernest Cranford, who was the interior decorator, that that had he had a verylong illness in the home and he passed away.

(01:15:36):
Um
We found his grave and we also found Dave Brooks' daughter, Bertha Prince.
We found her grave as well.
Um, we did a couple E VP sessions by their graves, didn't get anything.
It was really windy, didn't pick anything up.
Um, we looked and looked and looked.
I tried to look for Dave Brooks, I looked for JD Brooks, I looked for William or BillyBrooks, um, could not find the headstones.

(01:16:00):
I even we tried using the dowsing rods to get us point, but like I said, it was so windy.
Yeah, they were it didn't do us any good.
And I just felt defeated.
Like I'm like, where, where are they?
Right.
And their engraves are so old.
I'm like, we've got to get answers to these questions.
Okay.
So we come back to the house and we decide we're going to do a quick session before wehave to leave to go somewhere else.

(01:16:28):
Okay.
Now, to kind of set this up.
We put the video camera upstairs.
Yes.
And it is um pointing at the tracer wire that's on the hallway floor.
And then I think there's also a REM pod in the in the blue room.

(01:16:52):
Yes.
And we
All four of us are downstairs in the living room.
So you can hear us.
Like I said, this house is small.
So you can hear us.
But we're hoping to pick up activity on this upstairs because a lot of the time if you'redownstairs investigating in this place, stuff happens upstairs.
And vice versa.
So we're like, we're trying to cover both floors here.
Um now you can't see us.

(01:17:14):
You can kind of see me.
Like if you're looking down the staircase, I'm in the rocking chair there.
Um, but we decide we're gonna do our spirit box session, which w we call our portal.
So if we we say our portal
That's what we refer to it as.
Okay.
Um, wow.
We got some really cool stuff, actually.
And you know, we want to talk about going to the cemetery and see if we can get anyresponses because up to this point, we're still under the assumption we think Ernest

(01:17:42):
Cranford's there.
We've always assumed Ernest Cranford, but now, obviously, now we think it could be it'sDavid.
Um, but we want to talk about this, okay?
So
This first clip we're going to show you, we're asking about Ernest and about going to thegrave.
Pay attention to the tracer and what happens.

(01:18:02):
Pay attention to what comes through the box.
And we will talk about that here in a second.
Are you happy that Nicole and Logan find your grave?
That was some creepy laughter.
That was some creepy laughter.

(01:18:26):
Yeah.
Who's laughing?
That was the joke, because we didn't get it.
Are you here?

(01:18:48):
Got that.
What's so funny?
Are you just having a good time?

(01:19:11):
Are you laughing at us?
Do you like the toys upstairs?
Where you play with a

(01:19:38):
So real quick, let's talk about the portal.
And it'll be fast.
It doesn't have to be kind of a nerdy thing.
Because you know I can get into nerdy stuff.
think about it as like an SP7 or one a spirit box.
Um we have a separate device that we got from KD Stafford that does that part of it, thethe spirit box part of it.

(01:19:59):
What this is is just a it's not just a it is a really cool connection on a a honey tonekind of amplifier for guitars.
And you plug in a couple of different pedal effect effects pedals to try to get away fromsome of the you know it takes right, it cuts that down, but it's still sweeping, and
that's the most important thing I need you to understand here.

(01:20:22):
There it is sweeping so fast that there shouldn't have been any words coming through.
That's kind of the intent by it, so that you're gonna hear
You're gonna hear voices.
Now, there are a lot of people that think that you're getting the voices from thetransmissions and all this sort of things.
I personally don't believe that.

(01:20:43):
I think it's the white noise and it's that that noise that they're able to manipulate.
So what you do is you do hear some voices in there.
So I the reason I wanted to say that is there are a lot of people that may not know it,especially if you're not in paranormal, quite the level that we're at, may not understand
why it's got the sound that it has and how it's so clear.
And everybody's like, my gosh, it's like the, you know.

(01:21:04):
The smoking gun, yes, but with a grain of salt.
Right.
And the the primary thing is you're gonna hear voices come through.
But if it's not relevant to anything you're saying or questions you're asking, it'sprobably not anything, right?
So that's what you have to if you ask a question and you get like immediate answer thatrelates to your question, then you probably got something.

(01:21:26):
Yeah.
So always pay attention to that.
Okay, so we're gonna go over kind of what we you know, obviously we're asking about Ernestand is he happy that we found his grave?
We get this.
Child laughter.
Whew.
It was chilling actually.
And the tracer lights up red.
Now, what that means is warm air has passed over the sensor.

(01:21:49):
Okay.
When it does that.
Now, could that just be you know, air passing over it?
Sure.
Absolutely.
So that that in itself does not prove anything.
But what is interesting about this is when this does go off, we're usually getting answersabout certain things.
Yep.
So that that
That's kind of cool.
Right.

(01:22:09):
Um, so pay attention to that.
And then we get the laughter again and laughter again.
And then we get a strong male voice.
I enjoy the laughter.
Mm-hmm.
That's so cool.
It's so cool.
Yeah.
Kids laugh sa a kid laughing.
And what do we know at this point?
We know Billy's there.
Right.

(01:22:30):
We think David's there.
Or assume David's there.
What are the first two voices that come through?
A kid laughing and a strong male voice.
Mm-hmm.
Laugh, laugh, laugh.
I enjoy the laughter.
And you gotta think if if what our potential research is they're
related.
Right.
Yeah.
And then Anna, are you playing with the lights?

(01:22:50):
And then the red light, the warm air on the tracer, lights up.
Yep.
So that's what I'm talking about.
It's like, are you playing with the lights?
And then boom, light comes up.
So that's that's the association that you always want.
If it just randomly happens, then it's probably whatever.
But that right there is what you want.
And that was really cool to catch.

(01:23:11):
And that's why we divide and conquer with the camera.
And don't don't always have it on us.
Right.
Um, so we're gonna set this next clip up and we're gonna talk about it.
But um, we're talking about being the cemeteries, you know, basically, did you see us?
And um then we start getting into to William and where he's located because we could notfind him and I was just torn up about that.

(01:23:33):
So we're gonna play this and we'll talk about the answers.
We just saw you too.
Did you see us there?
We were trying to find William's gray.

(01:23:57):
Do you know where it is?
uh
oh Is your grave next over?
road or far away from the road.

(01:24:29):
You go into the back.
Okay, so Logan says, Did you see us?
Of course, it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
But we were talking to Ernest.
Yeah, and that's the part that kinda sucks is I wish we'd have known.
We assumed he was the one that was there, but if this is David talking, of course I sawyou, but it doesn't matter 'cause you are there like

(01:24:54):
Hi.
That's what I that's what I assume the answer is.
I don't we don't know, of course.
We're just, you know, um guessing, but that's it doesn't matter.
Or it doesn't matter because I'm I'm dead.
It doesn't matter.
Whether you're there at my grave, I my spirit's not there.
I mean, it could be either or.
Um so now I ta tap into William.

(01:25:15):
I'm like, you know, we tried to find you, William.
Um do you know where you know, where is your grave?
And I cannot believe we got this now.
Now I'm gonna put this up on the screen.
We get around the corner.
So I have arranged this little map of East Prairie, and I've drawn out where the BrooksEstate is and where the cemetery is from the it's very, very close.

(01:25:43):
Close.
And if you follow the red line that I have drawn for you, it is around the corner.
It's just a couple streets over from it.
It's not far at all.
Do you know where it is?
Around the corner.
Yeah.
I could not believe that.
Yeah, he's he th we'll just assume that it's David, but he knows exactly or William, I'msorry.

(01:26:07):
Sorry.
Yeah.
Um, no, I said because this cemetery's very large and where a lot of the old graves are,they're kinda right up front.
And that's where we spent most of our time is looking through these old graves and there'sall these little like cemetery roads, you know, like not the real roads, but cemetery
roads, like a just a dirt path to drive down to park, you know, like any cemetery would beto find these graves.

(01:26:31):
And we went all over the except for where we get the answer.
Okay, because we had looked back there and there was only like brand new graves.
But this is the answer we get.
So I ask, Is your grave next to the road or far away from the road?
And I'm saying the main road, like the main road.
Like is it close?
'Cause I'm assuming it's close because that's where all the old graves were.

(01:26:55):
The fact that we got this whole description in itself is unbelievable.
Once and it sounds like a little kid.
Once in the back, you come to the what we think says pothole.
Once in the back, you come to the pothole, I'm to the left of it.

(01:27:20):
And then the tracer lights up.
Yep.
Again, red.
Yep.
And if you look at the picture of the cemetery at the very, very back, we went and lookedagain.
There are graves way back by the trees back there, but we didn't know that.
We just assumed like
And we assumed everything back that way would have been new.

(01:27:41):
brand new because yeah they usually not build but you know what I mean like put them ingradually and but could all the brooks be back there.
Now Bertha's right at the front like in the front but she was married to the princes andshe's next to the princes.
Exactly.
So now I did find one other brooks on the other side but it wasn't related to these brooksor at least that I knew of.

(01:28:07):
But
Where are they all at?
Because they're in that cemetery.
We have the name of the cemetery.
Where are they?
So I've got a mission the next time we go back to go find him.
But the fact that we got that description is just insane to me.
Okay.

Um, now I will say this (01:28:24):
we did not set an intention to specifically only talk to the spirits of this house.
And because
The Brooks Estate is the way it is.
And because this portal is the way it is, if a spirit learns that you're hearing theirvoices, they're all going to start flooding in because now they can talk, right?

(01:28:48):
Yep.
And so I think a lot of these um responses we start getting here in the future are notnext necessarily spirits of this house or this property.
I think they're just ones coming in, saying what they want to say, whatever it is.
Because a lot of them doesn't.
Don't always relate to what we're asking.

(01:29:09):
Yeah, think about it.
Now we're Generation X and those people that are Generation X will know this.
Think of it as like a party line.
Yeah.
Back in the old days you would have a phone and there was all these different party lineswhere people could jump on the same call.
Nowadays it's just it's easy.
Everybody does it.
But back in those days that was that was a big deal.
Um so yeah, it's just like a huge party line for them.
And and another thing is even if they are the spirits of the home, you may have one saythis thing, the next one could be a completely different spirit.

(01:29:37):
So they're it's not gonna be like you're just on the phone with one of them.
You're gonna have them all jumping in saying different stuff.
So you can't really um stay on track necessarily with these after this point, because Ithink at this point that we're at, they've learned what we're doing.
Okay.
So some of them
Voices match though and you can kinda tell w you can kinda tell like when William'stalking, you can hear his voice.

(01:30:03):
You we're gonna hear a woman here in a second.
Yes.
And her voice matches both things.
Okay.
So we're gonna play this next clip and we'll talk about it.

(01:30:27):
Okay, so we get please get out of my home, you need to stop it now.
But it's a very polite, sounds like a female.
Please get out of my home, you need to stop it now.
I'm not angry, and we're not sure what this next part says.
It's kinda sounds like please do not go.
I'm not sure about that.
Um but very polite.
Just doesn't want us there, but just leave.

(01:30:50):
Yeah.
You know, and maybe it's because all these spirits are coming in.
Sure.
Because we're talking.
Um
Now we're gonna kind of transition.
We start talking about the kid because we kinda want some answers about the uh picture orthe security cam photo of the front porch with the kid on the front porch.

(01:31:13):
Because see still at this point we don't know that that Billy has answered us about kindof yellow, kinda not.
Because we didn't hear it.
So we don't know so we're still trying to get answers about this.
Okay.
So we're gonna play this next clip and then we'll talk about it.
How old is the kid?
Do you know him?

(01:31:46):
Could you tell us what color the kid's hair was?
Do you know him?
Is he from this house?

(01:32:09):
See a picture of Junior?
We're leaving for a few minutes.

(01:32:30):
We're leaving for a few minutes.
Is there something else you want to tell us?

(01:32:54):
Okay, so this first response to Anna asking this question.
After working all my life, I'm a lot like you.
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean.
I think because we were we were keying in on a child.
So the only thing that I kind of I mean, granted, it's my thought process, so it I don'tknow how accurate I am, but I keep thinking about the fact that it's potentially them

(01:33:19):
saying, Stop calling me a child.
You know, I've worked all this time, I'm not like you are, you know, quit saying
And it could be in a completely different spirit because it didn't sound like a kid.
So and these answers, I don't know.
Some of them might be from him, some of them are definitely not from him.
I don't know who they're coming, but like I said, it could be from anybody.
So what color was the kid's hair?

(01:33:42):
Now we're talking about the kid on the front porch.
Not necessarily Billy.
We're just talking about the and what do we get?
I cannot believe and we actually found this first before we found the kind of yellow.
Yep.
Kinda brown, kinda not.
Yeah.
So even more so, kinda yellow kinda knot, kinda brown kinda knot, which means it's inbetween blonde and brown.

(01:34:07):
Yeah.
So like a light or dark blonde, light brown, sandy, sandy blonde kind of color.
Right.
Which is what color the kid on the front porch hair from what the the picture looks like.
Yeah.
Kinda brown, kinda not.
And it's the kinda.
That's what catches me is the kinda.
Kinda brown, kinda knot.
Kinda yellow, kinda knot.

(01:34:29):
How many kids do you know talk like?
I only all kids talk like that.
And that's what's amazing about it.
But the fact that we got that on two different days and different devices.
One just a DR60 recorder and this a spirit box.
It's amazing, is what it is.

(01:34:49):
Now this next question.
So the first time we went there, they used to call the little boy Spirit upstairs.
They called him Vaughn because
Kristen, the owner, named the spirit just to have something to call him.
Sure.
Makes sense.
So they called him Vaughn.
Mm-hmm.
What's interesting about this reply is

(01:35:13):
About who the boy is, it's either Vaughn or it isn't.
That's the only boy.
So it's like whoever this is doesn't know the name of the spirit, but it's either this orit's not.
It's either this boy or it's not.
That's the only one that's here.
This whole time.
The whole time.
But it doesn't actually know.

(01:35:34):
Right.
I couldn't believe that.
It's either Vaughn or it isn't.
Yeah, I and you always want to be careful because you know Kristen had to have somethingto call it, so you know she created Vaughn.
But sometimes that that can come with a little bit of a of a challenge in its own.
You can you can create things sometimes just by doing so.

(01:35:55):
And obviously Kristen didn't know that or didn't think about that, but I have seen thatand we've seen it in the past that people will basically manifest a an entity.
Yes, but it was already there.
And that's what's interesting about this is that that spirit was already there.
But they're answering So it's this this because that's what he's being Mm-hmm.

(01:36:18):
Um now we feel like these next or they're talking to each other because we're talkingabout this picture.
Like, is there a picture of Billy?
Do we actually I and I'm telling, you know, the rest, Chris and Anna, no, we don't have apicture of Billy.
This question or this answer is your body is not here, they're asking about it.

(01:36:41):
So is this them saying, like your physical body, the picture of your physical body, theydon't have a picture of it.
They're asking about it.
Like, where's the photo of your physical body?
That's the way I'm taking this answer as your body's not here.
They're asking about it.
Yeah.
Or what you know.

(01:37:02):
The grave too.
We're also talking about where his grave is.
That's where his body would be, his physical body.
Mm-hmm.
Your body's not here, they're asking about it.
Right.
Like someone's telling him.
Kind of like a dual meaning, we don't know for sure.
Yeah.
And the tracer's lighting up when we're asking these questions again.
Um and this gets to be towards the end of the session.
Um we're telling them, you know, we're gonna be leaving soon.

(01:37:25):
Is there anything that you wanna tell us?
I'll be here all night.
Yeah.
Like you can come back and talk to me later.
Um and
What we're gonna talk about here is we are getting ready to go to another house.
We're not gonna speak about what that house is or why, but they know where we're going.

(01:37:47):
They do.
Are you heading to the house?
Are you sleeping here?
Yeah.
Because we tell them we're leaving.
They want to know if we're coming back, where we're going.
Are you heading to the house?
Are you sleeping here?
Yeah.
That's good and we didn't sleep there.
I'm not saying we didn't we wouldn't.
I'm just saying we didn't.
So
But they're asking.
Like they want to know if we're coming back.

(01:38:09):
And this next one, I'm I actually I got really emotional when I heard it because we alwaystry to approach these investigations with empathy.
Yes.
And integrity when we do them and we think the most about the spirits and try not to upsetthem, try to do things respectfully, just like if

(01:38:34):
They were alive.
You walk into a room, you're gonna be respectful.
Well, most people would be respectful to people.
You're not gonna go in and irritate them and upset them and and make things worse forthem.
You're there to try to find out how you can help them and what you can do for them, right?
So when we got this response, now obviously we didn't hear it in the in the moment.

(01:38:54):
Or I probably would have cried all over the floor right there.
True.
But I got super emotional once we figured out what they were saying.
Ugh.
Thank God you're here.
You always listen.
Ugh.
It touched me.
Yeah.
It touched me.
Because it's they're aware of why we're there.
We're not just coming to for entertainment.

(01:39:19):
Like we're there to actually help them.
Yeah and what we can do for them.
That's kind of the thing, you know, and and I won't get too much on a soapbox, but ifyou're just in it for the clicks, you're in it for the jump scares and everything, look,
do what you do you.
I I don't care.
It's fine.
But there is a lot of that.
Yeah.
And if you go to some of these, you know, reported locations and you kind of just do that,then it just becomes kind of a dog and pony show.

(01:39:45):
it's my personal belief, guys.
Everybody calm down.
But um I think
The people that do take the time a and try to get to know them and try to to investigatewith empathy, I think that's the kind of response you get.
Exactly.
And that's what I'm assuming why we were getting the get outs from David.
Because he's assuming we're there to do the same thing that probably multiple others havedone.

(01:40:07):
And we're not like that.
No.
Because I will say this, this second day we didn't get one get out.
So that there's something to be said there.
But to get thank God you're here, you always listen.
It really touched me.
I mean when you get that from someone that's not physically living, I mean it

(01:40:27):
Gives you the fe it gives me the feels anyway.
It gives me the feels.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um so we're gonna go on to this next um little we've got a lot of these actually.
We've got really they were talking to us.
Yes, they were.
And I know, I know everyone, I know this seems like too much evidence.
Like there's no way somebody could get this much.
We said the same thing.

(01:40:48):
Like, how is this possible that we're getting all this talking?
Literally yesterday while we were editing this
I'm like, nobody's gonna believe that we got all this stuff, but I'm telling you, theywere just they were so chatty with us and they knew we were like that.
You always listen.
So they're like, okay, I've got stuff to say.
And obviously we weren't there was more than this, but it we could not figure out whatthey were saying.

(01:41:10):
And there's no point in presenting it as anything if you can't figure out what they'reeven saying.
So um well, this is edited down stuff.
I'm just gonna tell you.
Okay.
So this next one,
The last time we were there, Logan got touched in the corner.
Um
we're at this part.
He's very uncomfortable about this part.

(01:41:33):
Uncomfortable when we f found out the evidence.
You had to get up and walk away.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we wanna know like who was touching him, right?
So we're gonna go through um some of these and there is something we we think we hear adisembodied voice in this, so listen for it.
And that's basically kind of what we're talking about is who's touching Logan.

(01:41:56):
When I was here last year, you guys touched me over here.
Somebody did.
Could you tell us where you touched it?
Do you speak?

(01:42:20):
Here you go.
Was it you?

(01:42:41):
Who touched Logan the last time?
Your name comes out clean clear as day.
Logan, after last year, I've been waiting for you.
I'm sorry.
year.
Yes.
Slogan, after last year, I've been waiting for you.
And
And may I add, this is my wife laughing about somebody groping me.

(01:43:04):
Amazing.
I think it's amazing.
I think it's I think it is absolute 'cause what tell them where you got grabbed.
I got grabbed in the in the ass or the butt, I should say.
I yeah, I yeah, all of it.
I mean just right in there.
Yeah, it was it was wonderful.
Now we also hear this, hmm, like a voice, like woman's voice.

(01:43:26):
And Chris at the time thinks it's Anna, because it does kind of sound like Anna.
And she's like, No, I didn't say anything.
And then you're like, Nicole, did you say I said, No, I didn't say anything.
So you can hear that, like this, hmm, it's very low.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so then we keep asking, like, who touched who touched Logan?
This would he we discovered that he was this is the one that really freaked him out.

(01:43:47):
Okay.
It says, Didn't you get excited?
It was all for you.
Yeah.
Okay, so here's here's what I wanna implore on other people uh here.
it's one thing to to to talk about entities and and do what we do in research, but when itgets like to where they're groping you in the in the buttocks and saying that it was all

(01:44:09):
for you, it's a little weird.
But I think it's it just shows like attraction never dies.
That's oh
Honestly, I I we kind of tongue in cheek.
Listen, I when I went there and did this, I offered myself to do that anyway.
So I I knew I have said that.
But but I I knew that that I was gonna be a possibility of being touched.

(01:44:32):
I didn't quite expect to be touched there.
Um and the investigator I was with at the time, I said, hey, listen, I don't wanna beweird because it was another gentleman.
but do you wanna kinda like
Put your hand close to that area and he's like, yeah, dude, it's freaking ice cold.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean I kinda asked for it.
Um, but yeah, it was interesting to hear it was all for you.

(01:44:54):
That was that was interesting.
That I think that's really cool.
Yeah.
Um, now we're talking about like you're trying to play a game with them, like play youknow, tag or something like that, I think is what Anna asked.
And they say I didn't ask Logan.
Like I didn't ask permission.
But they say your name again.
So they're clearly talking to you.
Now whoever wants to say, that's just a radio, how do they know his name?

(01:45:18):
Right?
Yeah.
So Logan, after last year I've been waiting for you.
Didn't you get excited?
It was all for you.
I didn't ask Logan.
I think the part that got me much.
The part the part that got me a little bit is the didn't you get excited it was all foryou sounded male.
Well no, but the reason I say that it was like I don't know, it was like uh I felt like Iwas on in a show, like I was on display and you know anyway.

(01:45:46):
Long story short it was
this is what happens when you offer yourself up.
Okay, so that was like a fun little moment.
obviously we didn't hear any of that in the moment because if we had I think this onewould have been out.
You would have heard a lot of laughter coming from Chris Anna and I though.

(01:46:08):
Oh guaranteed they're laughing right now.
Okay, so we're gonna move on to this next.
Now what's interesting about this is I'm sitting in the rocking chair that I've beensitting in every time we do a session in the living room.
I like it.
I like rocking chairs.
Yeah.
Because I don't have to sit still.

(01:46:28):
I can move.
true.
But I start feeling
It starts at my throat, like almost like a mild choking sensation.
Not a choke, I shouldn't say a choke, because that's not what it was, but it's pressure.
And like pressure kinda on my chest, almost to the point like my breathing was gettinglabored.

(01:46:49):
And
Being empathic, these types of things are starting to happen to me.
I'm starting to feel things when we go into locations.
So I'm trying to tune into that.
I'm trying to pay attention to that.
I'm still don't know how to interpret some of these things.
I'm still learning.
But I felt like there was something trying to tell me something or connect with me in someway, shape, or form.

(01:47:18):
And so obviously.
The rest of you are asking questions is what's happening here regarding this situation.
Okay.
So we're going to play this clip and then we're going to talk about it.
Is somebody trying to touch Nicole?
Yeah, who's affecting her right now?

(01:47:50):
What are you trying to make me feel?
But like Anna said, you guys can talk to us all you want.
We hear you, we hear you.

(01:48:10):
Are you trying to affect Nicole?
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do it.
So that's one reply.
Okay.
Who's affecting Nicole?
We know how to affect people.
That's the other thing.
If it's radio sweeping, right?
Who's affecting Nicole?
We know how to affect people.
Yeah.
You shouldn't come back here with a giggle.

(01:48:32):
Nope.
It's not like there was a Pfizer ad playing in the back of the There's a giggle.
Here's a giggle.
Like, hee hee hee, look what we're doing.
Yeah.
And then my question is like I immediately he goes on the defense, like, you know, get heraway from her.
But I'm like, I take it a different way.
Like, what are you trying to make me feel?

(01:48:52):
Cause are they trying to help make me feel like how they felt before they passed away?
What what is this, right?
This answer, I don't know how to take this.
Um, absolutely were, but you couldn't accept it.
Like, I'm not fully embracing what I should be embracing as of yet.

(01:49:15):
But I just don't know how to do that.
I'm trying to learn and trying to open myself up more, but maybe I was a little guardedbecause of where we were.
I don't know the situation, obviously, but
Absolutely were, but you couldn't accept it.
Yep.
That's an I don't know how to sit with that answer.

(01:49:35):
So we're just gonna keep going over this.
Yeah, I'm sitting with it.
Okay.
Um now they say, you know, I think it was Chris, step away from Nicole and use this box totalk to us.
Don't affect her.
I don't like this answer.
I can do what I want.
And then the tracer lights up red upstairs.

(01:49:58):
Like
You can't tell me what to do, I can do what I want.
Missouri, tell me what to do.
So I don't know.
I don't like that answer necessarily.
It seems kind of haughty, but it is what it is.
Okay.
Now it does eventually that feeling goes away from me.
It doesn't last very long, thankfully.
So they did listen.
Um, but somebody was definitely messing with me in that instance.

(01:50:21):
Okay.
so we're gonna play this next session, and we're basically talking about speaking throughthe box.
Who are we speaking with?
And we're trying to get an idea of the spirits in the space that that we're communicatingwith, right?
So we're going to play this and we'll talk about it.

(01:50:41):
we're gonna be here all night, so it there's gonna be a lot of possibilities for you totalk to us different ways.
Just keep trying.
uh
How many of you?
Can you give me a number?

(01:51:01):
How many spirits are here?
Thank you for counting.
How many children's spirits are here?

(01:51:22):
We're telling them to speak through the box.
We're trying to understand you, we're trying to hear you, just talk through there howthere's a lot of us.
And then we get this, which I'm not going to butcher this, but it's on the screen, andpart of it is regardez-vous, and it's French.
Regardez.
Okay.
And this we need to give all props to our friends Yasmin and Robin, who we went to Irelandwith.

(01:51:48):
They live in Canada and they speak French.
And when we first heard this, I was like, That sounds like Lone's like, that's anotherlanguage.
And I said, It almost sounds French to me.
We sent them the clip so they could I was like, Does this sound like anything in French?
And they came back like immediately, like, yeah.
This means like, are you watching, looking, like and like like through the box, like theydid trying to understand, like they're asking about, Oh, basically, do you want us to do

(01:52:15):
this through this box?
Right.
Like what box?
Like what are you talking about?
That's an interesting reply in in French.
Um I don't I don't know.
That's why I'm saying that's obviously not any spirit at the Brooks Estate.
That's something coming in from who knows where.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Um how many spirits are here?
I count fifteen.

(01:52:36):
I count them up.
So obviously there's not fifteen people at the Brooks Estate.
That's just spears coming in and out, okay?
How many child spirits are here?
Just one.
Billy.
What I thought.

(01:52:56):
Just one.
And that's I think it's Billy.
Or Vaughn or however you want whoever wants to label him what he labels, but I'm gonnacall him Billy.
Yeah.
Um so we got one last little thing in this session here.
and it's it's a funny one.
It's just fun to include it because it shows that spirits enjoy when you're happy.

(01:53:20):
They're just not everything has to be so serious and so dramatic.
Sometimes the best thing you can do is just be yourselves and have fun in the moment.
Not a mockery, just having fun in the moment with the people that you care about that arethere with you.
They love that and they will respond.
Yes, they will.

(01:53:40):
So we get a are you feeling cold?
Okay, in the beginning, then listen to the rest of it.
You what I'm saying?
Tired.
He's tired, yeah.

(01:54:03):
No.
Yeah, I'm a little tired.
Okay though.
Is it okay if I take a nap here?
Could you bring him a blanket?
If a blanket somehow started manifesting its way towards him, we'd all be gone.

(01:54:25):
Yeah, that one's on the house.
I'll be the first one on the relax.
That door works.
oh

(01:54:51):
Okay, so we're talking about I think it was either Chris or Logan that yawned.
I can't remember which 'cause obviously we can't see it because we're not on video, butone of you guys yawn.
And then we get through the box tired.
So obviously they see what we're doing.
And then we're talking about you're talking about can I d I'm assuming it's you yawningbecause you're the one talking about taking a nap and and we're like, yeah, can you bring

(01:55:17):
the blanket over and all this stuff?
And we're laughing about the fact, you know, like if it
manifests and ghost cross floor and like, uh that's gonna freak me out and all that.
And we're all laughing about that.
And then we hear on the box, laughing
Yeah.
It's crazy.
eh
talking up they're there watching us, listening to us in the moment, like yeah, you guysare son you're tired and you're now you're laughing.

(01:55:41):
Mm-hmm.
And I love that I just love that so much.
Well it was it was it was interesting because we did laugh about the fact that if itmanifests a a blank
floats across the room.
Like we're gonna be out of Um, so that was that session.
Um, in the in the living room.

(01:56:03):
Now, after this we decide to go to where we're going and we're gonna leave the camerarunning upstairs on the the the tracer wire and the REM pod and we're gonna do the same
thing, you know, as we did the night before.
Except for the paranormal quest thing.
Yeah, yeah, except for that.
Um one shout out's enough.

(01:56:23):
uh So we're gonna play this clip of leaving.
You're gonna hear us, you know, downstairs and and leaving the door and coming back andeverything and then then we'll um go over it.

(01:56:57):
This first thing you hear shifting and moving and thumping and knocking.
Now the tracer wire does light up.
Um could that have just been random air floating over it?
But yeah, possibly.
Um it's this weird movement in the house that you hear that's loud.
It's like, what?

(01:57:17):
And that's from inside.
And there are some sounds that come from outside.
We try not to include those in here.
But you hear these pops and these cracks.
Now it is an older home, and that will happen from time to time.
So we can't say that all those are paranormal, but the big heavy movement that you hear,there is no explanation for that.
And that's coming from downstairs.

(01:57:37):
Something big is being moved.
What it is, I don't know, because nothing was out of place when we got back.
Um, I have no clue.
No clue.
Yeah.
Um, but we you know, we come back, we eat some dinner, and we're at the table and
The owners come over, Michael and Kristen come over, and we all are just chatting andtalking around the table.

(01:57:58):
We're all la laughing and, you know, just talking about random stuff.
Um, also talking about, you know, the spirits, because that there's a history with Michaelin this house.
Like he doesn't like being in the house.
He always stays in the kitchen when he's in there.
And we're trying to, you know, calm his fears like that.
Right.
You know, there's nothing bad here and maybe there's just a misunderstanding.

(01:58:19):
And we're trying to get to the bottom of this, okay?
So we're
Talking about all this in the kitchen.
Okay.
So we decide the first place after they leave, we're gonna go back upstairs to start theinvestigate next investigation.
Okay.
Um, we sit in the red room on the other side of the bed, and Chris and Anna are in theupstairs hallway sitting in those chairs.

(01:58:42):
Now the camera is pointed on us in the red room, so you're gonna hear their voices frombehind you and stuff that they have.
Um there's a tripwire in the bed, and we've got the flux and the candle.
Nothing really happens with any of those, so you don't have to watch for that.
Um, but Chris and Anna have their candle in the hallway.
And I am actually I've turned on my sear application.

(01:59:02):
Now I know how some people fe feel about these applications, but and I thought this onewas bogus in the beginning, but we have had some really good evidence coming from this
thing.
Um so I just wanted to try it.
I wanted to see if we got anything.
Okay, so the basis of this is we want start
And try to connect to the woman that is known to be in this house because they smell herperfume in that room.

(01:59:27):
And, you know, I had an idea of who it could be, but we don't know this for sure.
We never really get much from her.
Okay.
We've never gotten a name.
We've never gotten much from her.
So that is our focus.
So we're going to play this clip of our little investigation and then we're going to talkabout what we got.
And and I think the the person we want to reach out to first is Bertha.

(01:59:50):
Uh Bertha, we went to went to the cemetery today and we went and visited you.
And we felt like the last time we were here we didn't really get a good chance to talk toyou.
So Bertha, if you're here, we'd really love to talk to you.
So if you could let us know that you're here, please touch any of these devices or comeclose to them.

(02:00:14):
Okay, I'm just Okay.
That's good.
Thank you, Bertha.
Bertha, I I know that while you were here it was a very tragic time in your life, and Igosh, Nicole and I are very, very sorry about that.
I know you just lost um you know just lost your husband and moved in here, and I know thatyou got sick very shortly thereafter.

(02:00:37):
Um But are you happy with the way the house is now?
Are you happy that it's it's kind of being
renovated, it's being used again and you know, I know this was kind of a tough time inyour life, but you know, it is definitely a part of your life.
Is there somebody else in this room other than Bertha?

(02:00:59):
There's someone in this room and you can't use any of these devices we have laid out.
Can you try and make a noise or knock on the wall?
David, are you here with us?
I think yesterday on us that you were here.
Was that you?

(02:01:22):
That's interesting.
uh
David, is that you by the window?
Really?
uh It was definitely
If you're on the stairs, you can come up here.
We'd love to visit with you.

(02:01:51):
David, did you smoke?
Did you smoke cigarettes?
Do you want a cigarette?
Ernest, are you here?
Ernest, I know I know that you're probably not too happy with the changes that happen inthe house.

(02:02:16):
Yeah.
An old sick man in a bed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well there's there's two men I can think of that there.
If you could answer one of our questions, we could identify who you are.

(02:02:40):
Is this earnest?
Were you sick in bed for a long time, Ernest?
Ernest, we went and saw you at your grave today.
Did you see us there?
Okay, so when we asked if Bertha was there, we did get the EMF candle go off in thehallway close to Chris and Anna.
Obviously, that is not on screen.
Mm-hmm.
You know, so you just have to take our word for it.

(02:03:02):
That's what happened.
Um, and then we we ask if David's here.
David, obviously at this point, we don't know we got his name on the original.
No, we do not.
So we're just asking, like, because he's one of the documented deaths, so he's is Davidhere.
And we get this large pop sound on the window that's right to our left.
Yeah, that was weird.

(02:03:22):
Um, we had gotten that like cigar slash cigarette photo on the Sear app.
I wonder if he was a smoker.
He could have been, the time period he was from, because he was he trying to tell us hewas a smoker.
I don't know.
Um, then of course we switched to asking if Ernest is here, and we get this photo pop upof this man in this bed, who's looks very old and he looks sickly.

(02:03:48):
Mm-hmm.
This is what's interesting about this photo is Ernest Cranford died in the home, and thenewspaper article says after a long illness.
Sure does.
And the death certificate says natural causes.
But I mean, this was in the I think the sixties or seventies, I can't remember.

(02:04:10):
Um, but we're gonna put up his information here.
Um, so it's interesting to get that in like an old wood bed.
sick in bed and that I mean this is the primary largest bedroom in the house.
So you're gonna assume that was his bedroom when he lived there.
Right.
Um that was an interesting photo to get talking about Ernest, like if you were here.

(02:04:31):
So it's like almost like we got a conf confirmation from the three of Like Bertha turnedoff the candle, David pops the window and the cigarette photo, and then Ernest gives us
the picture of the old man in the bed.
Right.
But that was I mean, obviously this is an application.
Right.
We don't know this for sure.
Could have been
But especially the earnest one threw me for a loop a little bit because that was his theythey talk about it.

(02:04:55):
He had a very long illness.
He was very sick for a long time.
to get that photo was a little strange.
Yeah, and kinda to touch on what you said and not to m beleagure the point, but you know,with these applications you run a lot of different things with it, you know, just kind of
offset and confirmation bias.
But when you get something that I mean, just that direct, it's really hard to just go,okay, it's it's nothing, it's nothing.

(02:05:22):
So
And then the other thing that happened during this is Anna says she gets a headache.
Yes.
Now the previous night when we first got there, do you guys remember I said when we wereup there smelling the holes she got a headache then.
And then she got she got a headache again.

(02:05:42):
Yeah.
And at the time I was like, hm.
And she's like, does that
Does anything make sense with that?
And I told her at the time, well yeah, because I was thinking about David Brooks becausehe died of a cerebral hemorrhage.
Yeah.
So now I could it doesn't necessarily mean it's him.
I mean a lot of sicknesses you get a headache, but specifically to what he passed away offor her to and she's sensitive, so for her to be getting a headache both nights, was he

(02:06:08):
communicating?
I don't know.
Um
And it can be an interpretation because when I had my brain bleed I didn't feel a thing.
So yeah, you never know.
But maybe that's the only way you can communicate a brain injury is give a headache.
Right.
I mean, I don't know.
It's just wanted to mention it because it is a little odd.
Um, so now we're gonna tr transition.

(02:06:30):
Chris and I are basically gonna stay in the same place and we are gonna transition intothe blue room, which we just call the kids' bedroom.
Um now we have our K two and the candle and we've got our little train toy that that'smotion detected will, you know, light up if
if anything comes close to it, and the REM pod in the room with us.

(02:06:50):
and at this point we're we're just trying to communicate with Billy anymore or if there'sanything that they're aware of, you know, if because we've kind of talked to the owners
and tried to settle some scores with the spirits and try to get everybody basicallygetting along and that everything's okay and there's nothing to be afraid of.

(02:07:13):
That type of
You know, we were that's what we were talking about somewhat at the table when we wereeating and and laughing and joking around.
So we want to know if they're okay and if everybody's good now.
And we also just feel so at peace up there.
The energy had dropped, it was peaceful.

(02:07:33):
We were all getting sleepy and tired because it was just so calm.
Yeah.
Um, so this is kind of what this s you know, the situation is.
Um, so we're gonna play some of this and then talk about it.
How quiet it is.
Yeah, I mean it's just super peaceful.
Is everybody at peace here?
I don't think I've ever felt this house like this.

(02:07:55):
It has never felt like this.
Never this peaceful.
There's always been a little bit.
Not even at the daytime.
I didn't feel like this during the day either.
Yeah.
Especially up here.
Like downstairs, I can get a little bit more comfortable.
But up here I always feel a little on edge.

(02:08:15):
I I literally fall asleep right now.
Mm-hmm.
Are you guys all happy?
And guys, we just want you to know that we've got all this stuff out of here.
And as much as we'd love to talk to you, if you're truly at peace, that's okay too.
We just want you in the end to be happy.

(02:08:37):
We want Michael to be happy.
We want Kristen to be happy.
We want you to all be here in a calm setting with everyone getting along and everybody'swish wishes being fulfilled.

(02:09:01):
Is that what you want?
In the time that we've known Michael, he's never been here this long as he was tonightwith us.
And he was laughing and enjoying himself.
Did you enjoy that?
Gosh, I gotta think you guys are feeling better now.
On this Seer app, we're getting nothing but peaceful sunset after peaceful sunset.

(02:09:25):
We've had like two images now.
It's like a farm.
Or three images of just like
Peaceful sunset serene images.
Did you see us downstairs laughing and talking?
Having a good time?
Did you enjoy that?

(02:09:47):
Hmm.
Nice.
It's a picture of a child on the floor with a twin bed laughing.
Do you trust our intentions are good now?
I'm sure with so many people coming in here, it's hard to know who to trust.
Yeah.
Okay, so is there a family sitting around the table with some kids?

(02:10:13):
Interesting.
Yeah.
But then about that time period?
So we've got a picture of a family sitting around a table.
Looked to be probably turn of the century clothing.
Do you miss those times?
Do you miss having dinner with the family?

(02:10:33):
Laughing and talking around the table like we were earlier?
Good question.
What?
I didn't hear anything.
What Anna said about because we've gotten a picture of a of a family on the table in turnof the century clothing.

(02:10:56):
Three tarot cards.
Three tarot cards.
I know tarot.
I don't know tarot either.
Um and Anna had said, Do you miss those times of sitting around there and laughing at atable?
It was a very interesting question.
Yeah, because that's what we were doing earlier.
We were on the table, we were laughing and talking, having dinner.

(02:11:17):
Okay, so when we're talking about peace, talking about like are you guys at peace now thateverything's kind of been smoothed over?
We get this photo on the Seer app of a sunset.
Yeah.
Like a peaceful sunset with like an old like old house on a prairie, like a farm.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
Peace.
Okay.
Right.

(02:11:37):
Um and then Anna asks if they saw us talking and laughing downstairs.
We get a photo of a child.
Sitting on the floor laughing and like with a twin bed just like the room that we'resitting in.
Okay.
And then I just like I wanted to kind of like smooth because the night before we got abunch of get outs, right?

(02:12:00):
Sure did.
And we never got anything like that the whole day.
Never once.
The only the the only thing that was a little iffy was the, you know, we can affect you.
Yeah.
I can do what I want.
But it wasn't anything scary.
Like it was just
Okay, I can mess with you.
That's right.
I have this power, right?
That's right.
Um, I'm like, do you trust that our intentions are good now?

(02:12:20):
That maybe we're not like everybody else that possibly comes in here.
and I, honest to God, cannot believe that we got this photo pop up.
It is a photo, which we put all these up here of this turn of the century family.

(02:12:44):
A man and kids and a like a wife, I think.
And the thing that's crazy about this is it so closely matches what their kitchen lookslike at the Brooks Estate.
There's a table in the middle of this small room, this family seated around it, and thewindows right behind it.
That's exactly how the living room of the Brooks Estate or the kitchen of the BrooksEstate looks.

(02:13:08):
But they've got this family, like they've all come together like a family sitting aroundthis table.
Right.
And like, yeah, everything's good.
We saw you sitting there, everything's good.
There's like a family here again.
And it just wow.
Yeah.
And we did show these these photos to Michael, because I think he needed to see that yeah,that that things are okay.

(02:13:34):
I mean, they're on on even ground ground now.
Yeah.
Um now we do an EVB session on the DR sixty.
Okay, so there were just
We're just asking questions.
basically what what we just talked about.
You know, if we're trying to see if everything's okay.

(02:13:56):
Right.
Okay.
So we're gonna play these sessions and then we're gonna talk about

(02:15:09):
Okay, so Logan asks, Is there anyone here that wants to be heard?
It's hard for me to talk right now.
oh Mm-hmm.
Um, can you tell us your name?
My name is Bill.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It it's it's not the easiest one to hear, but that's what I interpreted out of it.
Mm-hmm.

(02:15:30):
But we don't know who that is.
Okay.
Logan, are you happy?
I think I am.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Chris asked, Do you enjoy there is positive energy in this house?
Yes.
I laughed.
Mm-hmm.
That was cool to hear.
Yeah.
And I say, Do you have a message for us?
No message.
Like they don't have anything else to say to us.

(02:15:51):
And then Logan says, Anything that you do you have anything you want to say?
Thank you.
That meant more than anything, like thank you.
'Cause we had, I mean, we were trying to repair the relationship between the f the familythat owns it now and the family that is in spirit.
Yeah.
In this house.
And when I say family in spirit, I mean any of the spirits that are located there are nowa family in spirit.

(02:16:17):
So we needed to repair that connection.
Um so to hear a thank you was really nice.
Um so that was that little session and we only have one more.
for the night before we call it.
Um, but it's it's so interesting.
Yes, it is.
So we decide we're gonna get the spirit box with the portal out again.

(02:16:41):
So Chris and Anna are on the couch like they were before, and Logan and I are sitting inthe chairs across the living room.
No doll this time, just us.
Um Thank you.
We've got the tripwire out, and we've got the RIM pod, the K2, the EMF candle, and thenwe've got the the portal sweeping through the channels, okay?
So
There's so much here, guys.

(02:17:02):
So much here.
Um So we're gonna just play this first.
So last time we were here we we were down here doing one of these, if you guys mayremember this.
We had this box and you guys were talking through it.
Do you guys want to try talking through it tonight?

(02:17:26):
Uh.
Okay.
Okay.
So who is downstairs willing to talk to us right now?
What what's your name?
oh
no, the K2 meters like going all the way up.

(02:17:51):
Yeah.
Energy.
So are you downstairs now?
uh
Can somebody try talking through this box?
It's a Burger Radio.
So Michael is over here today and we talked about this upstairs.

(02:18:14):
But he was very happy.
Are you happy to see that?
I heard Michael.
Did you hear Michael?
Mm-hmm.
uh

(02:18:35):
Very good.
So we were upstairs asking this question.
I'm gonna bring it up down here just in case you weren't out there to hear us.
But are you more at peace now?
I uh am.
Yeah.
I heard that, not hurting as well.

(02:18:57):
oh Do you feel like this place can be safe for Michael?
Do you guys like seeing Michael and Red here?
I should say Michael and Kristen.

(02:19:21):
uh Billy, are you down here?
Release it in my room.
Well Billy, why don't you go ahead and come down here?
Can you come down and see us?

(02:19:45):
Can you say your name?
Sweet.

(02:20:16):
We get a lot of answers here.
We're not gonna go through through everything.
Um, I would just want to mention a few.
When the K2's going off like crazy, which we still think is um Logan's phone that heforgot to put on airplane mode, which is right next to it.
Um, but we get a response on the box, we're talking about it, and they say energy.
Yeah.

(02:20:36):
Just wild.
So that's the cool part about it.
Is like, yeah, it it being set off was his phone, but energy.
Um we think it's this phone.
We're not for sure, but we we assume it's his phone.
Maybe.
Um now, are you downstairs?
Of course.
Um and we're talking about talk through that's a broken radio.
This and they're like, How?

(02:20:56):
Like how do I talk through it?
Um
Which is perfectly reasonable to ask.
Yes, and I wanna mention this.
We wanna are you happy to see Michael in here, you know, back in the house?
Yes, Michael.
Yeah.
Um it's very good.
He's not hurting, like not hurting.
So all was very positive, which is awesome.

(02:21:17):
And you know, we're like, we want Michael to feel safe to come back in here.
Is he safe to come back in here?
Safe here.
Michael and the girl.
So Michael and his wife, Kristen, they're safe here.
Michael and the girl.
Yep.
So you guys are safe here, Michael and Kristen.
Go back in.
Okay.
do you like seeing Michael and Kristen here?

(02:21:39):
Yes.
Okay.
This one I love so much 'cause it sounds like such a kid response.
Billy, are you down here?
In my room.
Don't come in here at the moment.
That's pretty good.
In my room, don't come in here, which we call his room, the blue room upstairs.
Like, don't come in here.
I mean, in my room, don't come in here.

(02:22:01):
and we're like, Well, can you come downstairs?
And he's like, The woman's in here.
Yeah.
Like, she's in here.
I'm not coming in there right now.
The woman's in here.
Um, it's so, so cool.
now we asked a few other questions, um, and we're asking about, you know, Michael andKristen again.
they say Red, which is her nickname because she's got red hair.

(02:22:25):
And we're like, yeah, Red and Michael aren't here right now in the truck.
Now I don't know where they were at the moment.
Could they have gone somewhere in town and they could have been in the truck?
Mm-hmm.
Um, and then we get a few highs and stuff.
There's not there's not a lot in the rest of that, but those responses were so coolbecause yeah, we you know, Michael and them, they can come in here.

(02:22:49):
Mm-hmm.
They're ha you know, I see that the everything's good and and that Billy's like, I'm notcoming down there, I'm in my room.
And don't come in here.
What are you what are you doing that you're not supposed to be doing?
That's what I thought immediately, like the the kid, like what are you not what are youdoing in that bedroom you're not supposed be doing?
Like, don't come in here.
Yeah.

(02:23:12):
Um, so then Logan, you had gotten up and so this next next part is you coming back andwe're asking about that, okay?
You want Logan to stay over there?
oh
Can he come sit in the chair?
Is it okay if he comes and sit back sits back in the chair?

(02:23:36):
Yeah.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
What is your favorite room in this house?
What colors what color are the walls in the room you like?

(02:24:00):
Is there something else you'd like to play with instead?
Should we bring you another toy?
Yes.
What will you like?
Do you want a ball upstairs?
Yeah, that was a lot of what you have.
Okay.
Do you want a small ball or a big ball?

(02:24:24):
Small?
Small?
Okay.
I will find a small ball for you.
Do you want the ball to be able to bounce?
Hello.
Do you want one ball or two balls?
One.
It was really low.

(02:24:47):
Did you say one ball?
Try saying that again.
It was a little unclear.
You want one ball or two balls?
Two.
uh
Oh.
Okay.
We'll bring you two balls tomorrow.

(02:25:10):
Wouldn't it be fun if you could roll the ball down the stairs?
Is there anything else you want to play with up there?
That's it.
That's it.
Okay.
Do you have a color preference?
Try that again, I think I heard you.

(02:25:31):
What color do you want the ball?
Balls.
I heard colorless, I thought I heard one.
The first the first time I thought I I heard green.
That's what I heard.
Green.
Mm-hmm.
You want a green ball?
Should both of them be green?

(02:25:52):
Is green your favorite color?
Is there anything else you want to tell us?
I think we're getting about ready to close out for the night.
If you wanna tell us something, we you really need to do it now.
We know we're gonna bring you two balls.
Green balls.
Small green balls.
Small bouncy green balls.

(02:26:14):
Is there anything else?
It's very specific.
my god, green balls.
Sorry I asked.
All sliced and up.
Tomorrow morning.
Well there's a there's a dollar, there's a family dollar.
There's a Walmart.
There's a Walmart.
Walmart in Sykes then.

(02:26:35):
Yeah yeah.
So if I can't Right?
Right.
If I can't find green balls, is there another color you would like to have?
Red.
Red.
Okay.
Maybe I can find one green and one red.
Would that make you happy?
Yeah.

(02:26:57):
It would.
Those are Christmas colors.
Christmas coming out.
Huh?
Mm-hmm.
It'll be all of our gift to you.
For Christmas.
eh I do have a question before we leave.
There was a picture taken down here.

(02:27:23):
By the bathroom door.
And there was somebody in the picture.
Do you know who that was?
Try that again.
I think we heard I think we heard something.
Can you say that name again?
What do you think it said?

(02:27:46):
What was that name again?
Can you say it slowly?
Slowly and clear.
Is this you?
I think I know what I heard.
uh

(02:28:16):
Billy.
First time I thought I heard William.
Mm-hmm.
And then the the second time it said really fast.
Uh-huh.
And then when I that's why it said, can you say really slow?
And I said, Billy.
Billy, do you like by the bathroom?

(02:28:41):
Mm-hmm.
Really, do you like to stand by the bathroom?
Or hide in the bathroom?
When people are in the house?
Well, there was probably there was probably no bathroom when they were here, mate.
Mm very likely it was an outhouse.
There's probably no outhouse, yeah.
Billy, why do you like to stand by that wall?

(02:29:03):
Is it because you like the music?
I spy.
I spy.
Yeah, they spot you.
Yeah.
Do you stand there because you like the music?
Why are we assuming that he likes to stand there?
Because his picture was standing there?

(02:29:23):
Yeah.
Well That might just be where they caught the picture at one point in time.
But weren't you seeing something peeking out of the I thought I was yeah, but what I wasseeing was on the other side of the door.
Not on this side of the door.
You know.
Billy, where is your favorite place to hide in this house?

(02:29:49):
uh Can you try to speak more clearly?
uh
Oh yeah.
What's your name?
You don't sound like Billy.
Did you just come in?

(02:30:09):
ah Do you want us to play music?
Bidding.
Can you play us some music?
What would be an understanding that they would have in there?

(02:30:34):
What did you do that back then?
In the s twenties or thirties?
Yeah.
Yeah, so what do we got?
Who looks outside?
Who looks out the upstairs window?

(02:30:56):
Do you have any questions for us before we turn?
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and turn this off.
Can you say bye bye?

(02:31:19):
First we wanna say thank you.
Thank you for speaking with us.
Yeah, thank you so much for let allowing us to be in your space.
Can we come back and visit you?

(02:31:40):
You know.
Maybe thank you.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
So Logan had gotten up and we wanted to find out is you know, do you want Logan to stayover there?
No.
Can he come sit in the chair?
Yes.
So you were good to go.
Yeah.
And then I this is crazy to me.

(02:32:04):
You hear Logan come out of the spirit box in my voice and tell everybody how youdiscovered this.
So I was editing this very video and she was out in so our office where we're at, um, youknow, I'm in here doing it, and I literally thought she had called my name while I was

(02:32:27):
editing.
So I I stopped what I was doing and I looked around and I'm like, wait a minute.
She's not just in this room.
So I'm like, well, maybe you just heard it, you know, sometimes you hear things,especially at my age.
And then I go back and I start editing, and I hear the damn thing again.
And I'm like, wait a minute, that's coming from this freaking video.
Well, I mean, we investigate, so she could have been calling my name for anything.

(02:32:49):
So as I'm looking at it, I'm also seeing that her face isn't moving while it's being said.
And I'm like, did that just mimic her?
So I'm I'm honestly, I must have gone over this thing about 30 times, and I'm like, thisis the creepiest thing.
Because not only does it sound like her, it has her like mo like and how she says my name.

(02:33:17):
It was like, okay, that is weird.
So so far, out of our group, two of the four of us, no three of the four of us have beenmimicked yet.
Anna's the only one that has a lot of that we know of.
I'm saying when we're all four together.
Yes.
Chris gets mimicked at Ashmore State.
Yep.
You got mimicked at OSR.
Yes.
And now I get mimicked at Berks Estate.

(02:33:39):
Yeah.
That's weird.
Which that episode will come out at some point, but yeah, it was wild.
Um, yeah.
Logan.
That's that yeah, that was creepy.
Um now there's a few others, you know, they're just whatever.
But I want to find out if there's something I can bring um Billy to play with.

(02:34:00):
You know, he's a kid, he's a boy, so I'm asking about is there anything I can bring you?
And then I'm like, you know, he's he's known to like to play with balls, so I'm like,okay, can I bring you a ball?
And so
We start asking all these questions in line with like what kind of ball he wants, right?
And he is so specific.
Oh do you do you want yeah.

(02:34:23):
I'm like, do you want a small one or a big Yeah, small one.
And how many do you want?
One or two?
One or two.
Um is there anything else?
That's it.
Yeah.
Like only he's not greedy, I'll say that much.
That's it.
I'm like, what color do you want the ball?
Green.
Yeah.
And
It just it's just so funny.

(02:34:43):
And I'm like, okay, so now we've got I've got to find a small green ball that's somewhatbouncy for this kid, right?
And I'm like, that's awful specific.
What if I can't find that?
And so I'm like, okay, well, if there's any other color, is there any other color you'dlike to have?
Red?
Yeah.
And then would that make you happy?
It would.

(02:35:04):
So there was this picture taken by the bathroom, and we want to know who this is of.
Okay.
So we keep getting William, William, William.
Well, we get one Billy.
William.
It just keeps.
And I'm like, I think I know what it said.
And then it says, tell her.
Yeah.

(02:35:25):
Who's it talking to?
Is it talking to you?
Talking to Anna?
One of you.
Like, tell like you guys already know what you heard.
And I'm like, I feel like I heard William.
Tell her.
And I'm like, what are you, you know, why are you over there?
Why what are you doing over there?
I spy.
I spy.
Like I like to look, I like to pay attention.

(02:35:46):
I spy.
Like a I spy.
Yeah.
Like the I spy game.
It just it's just crazy.
And we're talking about the music and like I died, turned the music up.
And like it just is response.
Yes.
And at the very end, you know, we're like, we're thanking them for this and that.

(02:36:06):
And we get another thank you.
Yeah.
And that means more than anything.
Like you guys always listen.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We got those three things.
And that meant the most is that we're actually doing something right here for them.
Yep.
And that meant a lot.
Um so that was the end of our investigation.

(02:36:27):
That was it.
At the Brooks Estate with Chris and Anna.
Um, we packed up, went to our hotel for the night, and Chris and Anna went home.
They had a very long drive, but the next day
I had a mission.
I had to go find a green and red, small, somewhat bouncy balls.

(02:36:48):
And a very, very busy drive through coffee place.
Yes.
So we go to the Walmart 'cause I'm like, okay, this is where I can't find these ballsanywhere.
Of course they had them in the like um party department, which I would have never thought.
These you know, the little small bount bounty balls that you get.
And so I just got the whole thing of them.
So I brought him a blue, a green, and a red.

(02:37:09):
'Cause I'm like, one extra.
What's it gonna hurt?
Right.
And as I'm walking down the aisle of Walmart, I see those little um
license plate tags that you know that you put on the back of kids' bikes with their nameson them.
I was like, hmm, I wonder.
I found a William.
And it's for the Missouri license plate.
It says William.
And so I got that.
Um so when we got back to the Brook we went back to the Brooks estate and, you know,because we were going to say goodbye to the to Michael and Kristen and we had a

(02:37:39):
conversation with Michael and he came in the house and we had him and whoever it is thatthey had the beef with.
Talk to each other.
Well not talk to each other, but had him talk to him and just say, you know, everything'sgood.
If you just allow me to come in and do what I need to do, that there's you know,everything's good.
Everything's okay.
And it was a really peaceful, nice yeah, time in that house.

(02:38:03):
And after that was done, I took the little license plate tag and the three bouncy ballsand I went into the blue room and there's a little table that's between sorry, there's a
little table
that's between the two beds.
And I set the license plate and the balls on the table.
And I talked to Billy and I said, I promised you.

(02:38:26):
And I said, I know I'll you said two, but I got you an extra one just in case.
And I found this with your name on it.
And I hope you enjoy it.
And you know, we'll be back to visit you.
And thank you for speaking with us and whatever else I said.
Um, so that was kind of how we ended it and we thanked all the spirits for talking to usand that we were very, you know,
Happy with how everything went and thank you know, thank you for allowing us in here andand speaking with us.

(02:38:50):
So that was the end of our session at the Brooks Estate.
I'm still completely overwhelmed with the amount of evidence that we got.
Absolutely.
I am incredibly thankful.
Grateful, yeah.

(02:39:10):
Not only to Michael and Kristen for allowing us to come and do another investigation inthis house, but also to Chris and Anna for coming with us and helping us investigate this
place.
We had a fantastic weekend, like we always do with them, but they they bring so much goodenergy and fun and laughter.
We had an amazing time with them.

(02:39:31):
So thank you, Chris and Anna.
Thank you, Michael and Kristen.
And thank you to David.
Yep.
And Billy, those are the only ones we know of for sure that that we spoke to.
I mean, I know there was more.
We just don't know your names yet, but we're we're going to find that out.
Um, and I just implore anyone that decides they're going to go to the Brooks Estate.

(02:39:52):
you can go on Airbnb.
It is there for rent as an Airbnb, but you can also investigate it.
Just please be respectful of the spirits.
And this is anywhere you go.
It doesn't matter where it is.
They are human beings that live this life and they got attached to places just as we do orto objects.

(02:40:18):
Go in this place and realize this was someone's home and it's still someone's home.
Just because they no longer have a physical body doesn't mean they're not still there andthey're paying attention.
They are paying attention to what you're doing.
Be respectful.
Don't irritate them on purpose.
There's no reason for that.
Because you're gonna get what you put out.

(02:40:38):
Okay.
Especially in this place.
You put something bad out, you're gonna get it back.
Well.
Um, just be kind.
You know, interact with them.
Be grateful, tell them thank you, do those types of things.
It is so incredibly filled with spirits.
I mean, yeah.

(02:40:58):
We don't even know how many are there as of right now, but like I said before, I thinkthis place is somewhat of a beacon.
So when you go in starting to open up communication, there's all sorts of some s onescoming in that aren't actually there all the time.
Right.
And because that cemetery is so close, who knows?

(02:41:20):
Who knows?
It just once you open up that that uh
and that's anywhere you go.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, just to kind of echo what you're saying, you know, it it's always importantto remember the the respect behind it.
and I could not agree more, you know, you see a lot of these investigators and you see alot of people do things and they're always they're always surprised by some of the uh some

(02:41:44):
of the responses.
Well, if you're gonna act like a jerk, you may get some jerk responses.
I'm not gonna say that that it's right or wrong.
No, there's no right or wrong.
It's just an investigation technique.
But
Um, be mindful.
You know, remember that a as you are they were once and as they are, you're headed thatway.

(02:42:05):
We all are.
And how would you like to be treated?
Especially if you're in your own home and all these people come in, you know, provokingyou and I mean you're gonna act out too.
Most people would.
So just just be respectful.
The place is an active place.
Um, it can switch from being very peaceful to having energy.

(02:42:25):
But I Yeah, I think it's what you bring in there.
What you bring in there and how you leave is what determines
what happens in that place.
And we've seen yeah we have seen some people be scared out of that place, but that'sbecause they haven't been that uh kind to the spirits that are located in that property.

(02:42:47):
So um and and Billy and David we feel are there.
yeah for sure.
You know, and take care of them, be good to them.
They're important to us and I know they're important to
to Kristen and Michael.
Um it's their home.

(02:43:08):
It was their home way before it was our home.
Or Michael and Kristen's home.
So it's kinda it feels like it.
It feels like it I I feel partial to this place for sure.
I when you go there the uh the history
Yeah.
My my histories Kirsten definitely typed that up like the stuff that that I'd found and soit's in the booklet on the table of some of the research that I found about the family,

(02:43:33):
which is just heartwarming to see that she put that out like that, uh about the theestate.
So that's really cool to see.
Um but hopefully that brings some some respect and shows that people actually lived inthis home and died in this home and you know.
Yeah.
Anyway, but
That is the return to the Brooks estate.

(02:43:53):
That is not going to be the the first return.
There'll be many returns because there's still there's still answers I need.
lot to uncover but guys once again thank you so much what a great episode we knew it wasgonna be a long one sorry I was a bit overdue we weren't able to make it on Wednesday but
uh it's a lot cooler right now and we're not gonna you know it's on screen so um but otherthan that guys thank you so much and we will see you next time

(02:44:21):
See you next time.

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