Taco Darling and Community Chats: A Fun Friday Morning Adventure

Trey and Terry kick off this lively episode of *Get It Right Texoma* by diving into the intricacies of local happenings and the interesting dynamics of community engagement. The main highlight revolves around a young local auditeur, who’s been stirring the pot with his First Amendment antics, sparking conversations about rights, responsibilities, and the motivations behind such public demonstrations. As they banter back and forth, they reflect on the balance between holding public officials accountable and the responsibilities that come with exercising one’s rights. Joining the discussion is Steve, their regular guest host, who adds his insights and personal experiences, making the conversation even richer. With plenty of laughs and some serious undertones, this episode is a blend of humor, community spirit, and thoughtful dialogue that keeps listeners coming back for more.

Takeaways:

• The podcast discusses the importance of local businesses and community events, emphasizing support for local eateries like Taco Darling, known for its vibrant atmosphere and delicious food.
• Listeners are encouraged to engage with the podcast through live streams, sharing opinions, ideas, and feedback to foster a strong community connection.
• The Fantasy of Lights event is highlighted as a unique local tradition, providing a festive experience and promoting community involvement during the holiday season.
• A significant discussion revolves around the rights of individuals to film in public spaces, sparking debates about privacy, respect, and the responsibilities of both citizens and public officials.
• The hosts reflect on their personal experiences with hospice care, illustrating the emotional and practical support provided by organizations like Hospice of Woodcraft, which serve families in need during difficult times.
• The conversation touches on the evolving role of government oversight and the necessity for transparency, especially when it involves public funds and accountability from elected officials.

Links referenced in this episode:

• getitrighttexoma.com
• eddiemillsfuntaco.com
• mactechsolutions.com
• kfdx.com

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Eddie Hills Fun Taco
• MacTech Solutions
• United Region
• Taco Darling
• Poppy
• PepsiCo
• Midwestern State University
• Wichita Falls Chamber of Commerce
• Colonial Baptist Church

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
You make this rather snappy,won't you? I have some really heavy
thinking to do before 10 o'.Clock. Yeah. Turn the video on. So,

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people.
Yeah, we're here. Goodmorning, everybody. This is Get It
Right Texoma. And we've gotanother person here starting from
the beginning here. And thisguy's now named is Steve Garner.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you for joining us. ButI'm Terry.
And I'm Trey.
And. Yep. And we have ourMike, of course, in the upper right

(00:41):
corner of our. You know, Ithink we might have been referring
to him. And we're on the twoView. I just thought of that. That,
that he's never. He's notactually. We need to get him in our
two. Our dual.
There you go.
We don't have the thirdperson, but in any case, Mike is
our podcast partner in thesky. He keeps an eye on us, laughs
at us, does all that good stuff.
Yeah. We usually go live everySaturday or every Friday morning
at 7.

(01:01):
Not doing on Saturdays.
Right. On Facebook and YouTubewith local happenings, interesting
topics and. And even usually a guest.
Oh, he's our guest host.
He's our guest host. Yeah.Steve's. Steve's not a guest guest.
He's a regular guest host with us.
Because there we go.
So. And even if we record theshow ahead of time, it'll drop at
the same time each week. Sothat way we have some consistency

(01:22):
and speaking with guests. Likewe've already said, Steve Garner's
with us, guest host this morning.
Yeah. Be sure and chime inthough, on the live stream. We actually
have a way to. To interactwith you. If you go in and make.
I can see it. I'll try to keepan eye on it up there. Actually there's
a way to get an alarm to. Whenit like chimes or something. But
I have to look right now. But.But yeah, please do.
It smacks you real quick.That's right.

(01:44):
So anyway, we want to hearfrom you. Like to hear good and bad.
I want to hear what youropinions are. All good stuff. Yeah.
Tell us any ideas, any guests,whatever that you'd like and we go
out there and try to do it.
And.
But by the way, we have acouple of sponsors. We have these.
This guy here, he's got thelogo right there.
Eddie Hills Fun Cycles.
Yeah. At 401 North Scott,1966. And MacTech Solutions right

(02:08):
here, 4020 Ray Road. Just comeon and check out anything with regard
to Apple. We can help you outwith that. Both sales and service.
And yeah. We do alwaysencourage people to do business with
local businesses when you can,if they deserve it. But we like to
shout out those and let peopleknow because. And by the way, we

(02:30):
have a unique little offeringhere that we do things at this. Get
it right Texoma that you won'tfind anywhere. We give a little long
form format. We get somebodyon and we can talk to them. Give
you plenty of time at least.Usually 30 minutes at least.
And sometimes like last week,Corey Edmonds, the CEO of United
Region, like 45, 48 minutes orsomething like that.

(02:53):
Yeah. So.
So be sure to like and sharethis, this thing that, that, that
helps get the word out.
Yep.
And like, like Terry said,nobody's doing anything like we're
doing. There's. There arepeople who. But nobody has a guest
for this extended period oftime. There's TVs great. And even
the show that Steve's on thatoccasionally on as well, the social
space, they do a great job andthey, they have guests on. And it

(03:17):
is longer form than. Than likea TV news interview, but it's still
a relatively short because youonly have a short period of time.
Whereas here we kind of justlet it roll until it, till it runs
out. I mean, when I try tokeep a eye on time and go, hey, guys,
we need to wrap her up alittle bit here. But it's, it's.
There's not a hard. We don'thave commercial breaks. We don't
have hard deadlines and thatsort of thing.

(03:38):
Right. So. And with that,let's get right into it. This is
get it right Texoma.
That's right. And our localrestaurant Focus let you take this
one.
What?
Yeah, it's Taco Darling.
All right.
Taco Darling out on Kell. Oneof my favorite places in town to.
When I've got a friend thatcomes in from out of town, when we

(03:58):
got family members that comein, I just, I really enjoy the space.
And now that Tagan has gotthat restaurant rolling like crazy,
I love going to the upstairsportion of Taco Darling. There's
just something about being upin that upper dining area where you
can look out over Kel and youcan see the, the part if you're close

(04:22):
to the edge, close to the edgeof the railing, you can see downstairs
as people come and go. Butthere's just, it's just a really
nice. It's got a like a localneighborhood pub feel. I don't drink
other than soft drinks, butit's got that, that neighborhood
feel to it. And I reallyreally love going.

(04:44):
So when he walks in, everybodygoes just like, cheers.
Well, but it's like a cat,though. You can be like, oversee.
Like a cat does. Likes to getup above.
You did mention taking Gan,who had Gypsy for many years.
Yes.
So if you like that food,it's. It's the same person who. Who
created the menu. Yeah. Yeah.She's been in the restaurant business
in Wichita Falls for a longtime and does a great job.

(05:05):
Yeah, well, I've been therebefore, and it's been a little while,
and you get back over there.But. Yeah, they. Oh, my gosh, they're
just. They have such goodflavor and. And all.
And a very diverse.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Style of food.
It's called Taco Darling, butthey've got stuff other than tacos.
I almost always get tacos, butthis last time I went, I said, you
know what? I had a good friendof mine tell me the burger was really
a good burger. So I tried itout, and guess what? He was right.

(05:28):
Just like everything elsethey've got there, the food was just
really, really.
Well, I'm pulling up. If youcan see it here. You know, y'.
All.
Y' all should be able to seeit right now. But it looks like there's
a bingo night.
What?
Yeah, Bingo night at TacoDarlins. It's time to yell bingo,
drink margaritas, and supportthem. An amazing cause. So November.
Well, actually, it was last night.
I was gonna say that was last night.

(05:48):
So well dogged on it. So they.But they do more than. Obviously,
they're. They're big into the.And supporting it, but it looks like
they do.
But their food is really good.I mean, by the way, it's where it's
on. It's on Kale. It's wherethe Oyster Bar used to be. If you
were familiar with the OysterBar, it's kind of at the very end
of that. That strip there. Andit kind of starts with Stroman Dental

(06:11):
on one side, and then it goesto. Yeah, it's. There's two B buildings
there, and then it ends inTaco Darling on the other side.
Hours. We usually open now.Let's open now.
What?
They're not open now.
Maybe they do breakfastburritos. Yeah, every morning, actually.
Well, yeah, there you go.They're open. You know, hey, go visit.

(06:35):
They're locally on. Except close.
So it does look like theirbreakfast, lunch, and dinner. Yeah.
Well, that's cool.
So except for on Saturday.
Dinner and Sunday. Sunday,yeah. So go check them out. They're
local. Sundays.
They have a brunch on Sunday.
Okay.
There aren't many places inWichita Falls where you can go get
brunch, and they do have apretty good brunch there.

(06:55):
Awesome out.
And Taco Darling. And it'slocal and it's locally owned, and
it's. I just could just go.Just go try tacos.
Yeah, Go give it a whirl. Andby the way, is there anything better
in the world than tacos? Imean, it's. I am a taco fiend. It's.
I love hamburgers. And that'smaybe the top, but tacos are right

(07:17):
there with it.
All right, well, there we go.So what do we got? Coming up next,
we're going to talk about theFantasy of Lights.
That's right, Fantasy ofLights, which is a local. I mean,
you can't see this anywhere inthe world. And we need to do it.
We've done a show before thattalked a little bit more about the
history, but basically theBurns fantasy. The Burns family in

(07:37):
Wichita Falls was an oilfamily, and I believe they started
like in the 20s, way back. AndI do remember specifically that their
little house on probably 11thstreet or 10th street or something
like that. And they had asmall tree with one blue bulb. And
that's how it started. Butover the time, Mrs. Burns loved.

(07:58):
Loved decorations andChristmas decorations, and they moved
into a much larger house overin Country Club that had a large.
Yard right there on Harrison.
That's right. She startedfilling up those. The yard with decorations.
And these are some really cooldecorations. And so when the burns.
When the Mr. And Mrs. Burnspassed, the family donated this display

(08:20):
to the city of Archer City.And the reason they did that was
because a lot of theiremployees, they were in the oil business.
And at one time, Archer Citywas not a boom town, but kind of
like a little minor boom townfor oil business. Well, the city
of Archer City said, we can'tdo. We don't know what to do with
this. We can't handle this.And so an organization was formed,

(08:40):
the Fantasy Elites foundation,or whatever they call themselves,
and they made a deal withMidwestern State University. And
their Midwestern StateUniversity, which is very visible,
has a large space there, andthey allow the Fantasy of Lights
to be displayed there Now.Midwestern State University. So if
you're worrying about who paysthe bills, Midwestern State University,

(09:03):
all they provide is a space.Yeah, they do not provide the electricity.
Yeah, they get billed.
Yeah, they provide the space.So everything else is private donations.
The upkeep and maintenance ofThese. And some of these displays
go back, you know, decades and decades.
Yeah.
And the upkeep, maintenance,the cost of setting everything up,

(09:24):
tearing everything down, thecost of electricity to run it. And
it kicks off on Monday,November 24, so next Monday at 6pm
and that's when they'llofficially turn it on. And it runs
through Christmas. And it's a.It's a really neat thing. I mean,
if it's really cold outside, Iguess you could drive by and look

(09:45):
at. It's neat to see, but it'smuch better to park and walk around,
take your kids, take yourgrandkids, and while you're there,
kick in a couple of bucks.There's people there that are always
holding booty. And that's. Andactually, Mike Hendren was a huge
supporter and a big part ofFantasy of Lights. He was on the
board, the steering committeefor a long time, and he and his family
spent many, many nightscollecting out there with the Santa

(10:09):
boot. And so I thought aboutthis when I was putting this together
and realized this coming on. Ihad a memory of Mike, and I have
had many conversations. Spenta lot of hours talking about the
Fantasy of Lights and hisinvolvement there. So it is really
a neat thing. It's somethingvery unique. You can't see many places.
I know you can go places andsee big Christmas decoration displays

(10:32):
that happens, but I don't knowof any that have Christmas decorations
that span back decades anddecades. Most of the time they're
wire frames. They look great,but they're wireframes. A bunch of
lights on them now.
Sure.
Whereas these are stories.
Well, and the other thingabout this, when you go out there,
you can, you know, hang outand check out all the displays, but
then usually there's. They'vegot the trams that. That take you

(10:55):
through the. Theneighborhoods, everything. Pay a
few bu.
And there's a carrot. You cando carriage rides out across.
The street, get some hotchocolate and who knows what else
out there. So go check it out.It's. It's fun. You get all. Yeah,
it's just something. You takeyour honey out and, you know, go
bundle up in a.
You can take your wife or youcan take your girlfriend, but. Yeah,

(11:16):
Terry, I didn't say that. Notme. No. Okay.
So, yeah, go check it out.Now. When does it end? Is it through?
I believe it's throughChristmas past Christmas.
It goes probably the weekendafter Christmas. I don't know the
exact date.
I mean, you don't need to knowtoday when it is. You need to Know
when it starts. Right. Sostart the 24th. Yeah. And we'll talk
about it as we go on over theweek. We're not going to beat it

(11:36):
to death, everyone, but we'llkind of remind people about it. But
the 24th next Monday is thekickoff date. And it's. It's really
a. It's a fantastic event. Ifyou have time to go out there and
see the kickoff and the joyand all that, it's. It's great. And
it involves a lot of localyouth groups that come in and do

(11:57):
a lot of the maintenance andthat sort of thing.
So that's one of the thingsthat. I'm glad you said maintenance,
because that's one of theongoing challenges that the foundation
has. Those displays requireupkeep every year and storage. They
have to be stored. But whenthey're out in the elements and when

(12:18):
they're out in Texoma elementsfor a full month, these are wooden
structures, metal structures.They've been painted, and they just
have to be taken care of. Andthat costs money. It costs a lot
of money.
Historical thing as well. Imean, you know, some of those.
Some of Those vignettes are 40 years.

(12:39):
Old, I think, even older. Imean, I think the one with the Scrooge,
you know, I believe somebody.I heard that somebody said that was
from the 60s. Oh, wow. Whichwould make it closer to eight, you
know. What, 80 years old?Yeah, 60. 60 years old. Both. 60
years old. 60 years old.Steve's a math guy, not me. Right?
I am a math guy.
All right.
Well, cool. Well, then.

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So the Wichita. The WichitaFalls Chamber of Commerce is going
to have their annual awards onThursday, December 4, 11:30am A lunch.
It's 11:30 to 1:30. It's atthe form on Speedway. And this is
just a great time for peopleto go out and celebrate, I guess,

(13:21):
the accomplishments of localbusinesses. And you talk about our
chamber. Our chamber has beenabsolutely on fire over the last
few years and done so much.And of course, you know, Ron Kitchens,
who was our. The chamber CEO,is gone. But there's so much, so
much good leadership there,and he cultivated a staff of leaders,

(13:43):
and they're continuing to runwith the torch here.
I think one of the things I'dlike to add is the important work
that's been done over the lasteight to 10 years between the Chamber
of Commerce and the city ofWichita Falls. I've been on the periphery
watching that coordination.And the culmination of those efforts

(14:07):
is now being realized by ourcommunity. Looking at what has happened
with the expansion out of theformer PPG plant, which is now Vitro.
It's a massive, massiveexpansion with coming online of the
Amazon delivery facility inthe next month or so, the jobs created

(14:34):
there. The exciting thingthat's coming together with the data
center and the possibility ofadditional things just like that.
All of that work has been putin place by Henry Florsheim and then
Ron Kitchens and now in their staff.

(14:55):
And the staff.
The staff, they've got such anincredibly aggressive and excited
staff.
Dynamic, I think. Dynamic.
And the things that havehappened in the state of Texas over
the last 14 to 16 years arehappening here finally. And it's
because of all that hard work.And it's just exciting for me as

(15:16):
a member of the businesscommunity. Even though I'm retired,
I'm still active in it. Butit's exciting for me to see so many
things changing the face ofour community.
Absolutely.
And by the way, you canregister for this when you. When
on the website. There's alittle register button there. Register
now. And then it takes you toEventbrite. So that's where you're

(15:37):
gonna go check it out.
And go check it out. Chamberof Commerce. Hey, real quickly before
we go on to our news, there'sa couple things that are local that
I found were interesting. Ididn't know. Did either one of y'
all know that the founder ofthe soda drink Poppy is from Wichita
Falls?
I had heard this recently. Iknow that.
I didn't either. She was onShark Tank. I'm a Shark Tank watcher.

(15:59):
She was on Shark Tank yearsseveral years ago and got a deal
with. For. With somebody. Andthen Poppy just sold for like $2.1
billion to PepsiCo. And so.
Holy Mac.
Yeah. And so when she was onShark Tank, she said, we're. So she
and her husband were on thereand I think they said from Austin,
Texas. That's where they live.But she was a shark on Shark Tank

(16:24):
in one of the recent episodesand they did a little bio and she
said, I grew up in WichitaFalls, Texas. So her name's Allison
Ellsworth. And now that's hermaid. I don't know what her maiden
name was. That. That was hername. And apparently her. I. I just
did a little bit of research.Her dad. Dad was in the oil business
and her mother and father gotdivorced when she was young and she

(16:48):
and her mother and maybebrothers and sisters moved to Wichita
Falls. And her mother workedat a local jewelry store is what
they said.
Wow.
So. And was a Single mom. SoAllison Ellsworth, who is. I don't
know that she's a billionairenow, but her company just sold for
billions of dollars.
Is a few more million than I do.
Exactly. Is here. I don'tknow. She was. She grew. Said. Grew

(17:10):
up in Wichita Falls. Thosewere her words. I don't want to say.
I hate it when people say MiaHam's from Wichita Falls. She's not
from Wichita Falls. She livedhere, like, two and a half years.
Yeah, but.
And she doesn't claim WichitaFalls, by the way. She. She doesn't
claim it. It kind of irritatesme when people want to make a big
deal and say, Mia Ham, MiaHamilton. It's like she doesn't claim
Wichita Falls. Yes, she didlive here, but it was for two and

(17:30):
a half, three years orsomething. She's a great soccer player,
and I have a lot of respectfor her, but she's not from Wichita
Falls. But according toAllison, she grew up in Wichita Falls.
So those are her words, notmine. And the other thing that was
pretty cool is Raymond Hageris a local bus driver who just got
put in the Guinness Book ofWorld's Records. He's the oldest
bus driver, the oldest.

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Active bus driver in the world.
In the world. Wow. Yeah. Andthe 11th. The 18th. The 18th was
Raymond Hager Day. So Ibelieve he's 97 years old.
I know he's 90 something. Idon't know.
I believe he's 97 years old,still drives a bus for the city of
Wichita Falls and has beendoing it for years. And so congratulations.
I think that's awesome to havea local person like that who gets

(18:14):
honored. It's reallyimportant, I think, to honor these
people when they're stillalive and they can enjoy it.
All right, so what do we gotnext here? We've got the. No, you
had a couple. There wassomething else on there.
Senator Candy?
No, about the tree of hospice.
No, the four. That's. That's later.
Oh, that's later on.
Sorry.

(18:34):
Okay.
I'm trying to get ahead of thegame here. I know I send you a prompter.
On purpose here, Jerry, tokeep you in line.
All right, well, so we havesome news then. And that Senator
Kennedy. Not sure I like this,but he's apparently proposed not
to pay.

(18:55):
What? Congress people.
Oh, no, no, no, no. Nevermind. What do you not like, never
mind? I misread it.
This is a deal.
You want me to go find a whip?
No, this is. This is a TedKennedy that killed somebody. This
is John Kennedy from.
No, I misread it. I misread itearlier. Sorry.
Oh yeah. Though his proposalis to not pay congresspeople.

(19:16):
Yes.
During government shutdown. Iwonder what dumb motorcycle shop
guy has been saying that for10 years on the radio and, and on
the.
Podcast finally listen to you.
Every time we've had ashutdown, I've screamed from the
top of my lungs on the radio.And by the way, I've gone on record,
I call balls and strikes whenI think the Republicans are reason

(19:37):
or the reason for theshutdown. I've said it.
Yeah.
In fact, I think they wereeither last shutdown or two shutdowns
ago. I put that, that blamesquarely on the Republicans. I thought
they were being unreasonableand trying to hold the Democrats
hostage. And I, and Icomplained about it and I think,
I know this time the Democratswere being unreasonable and they
were holding the Republicansand the, and the citizens hostage.

(19:57):
But my point was I said fromthe beginning if the people in Congress
didn't get a paycheck and noneof their staff got a paycheck, it
would really slow down thepossibility of these shutdowns because
there's plenty of people inCongress they could go a month or
two without getting paid, butI guarantee they have staff members
who can. And it's really hard,it's easy to, to online say something

(20:21):
about somebody or disparagingor, or tell somebody on the phone,
hey, you're an ass or whateverit is. It's really hard to look somebody
in the eye and say, I know youand I care about you, but I'm going
to put my politics in front ofyour well being. Yeah, that's very
hard to do.
Well, yeah, this is, to me,it's just a decision that is definitely

(20:42):
a. We had all these employees,by the way, did we pay our employees?
Are we, are they getting backpay? Are the civilian employees?
I believe they are becausethat was. Because, you know, there
was a time when I think evenTrump said, well.
I know, I think that was Trumprunning his mouth trying to put pressure
on the Democrats. I honestlybelieve that. I think, I think the
law says if there is agovernment shutdown and you continue

(21:05):
working that you get back pay.I'm pretty sure that's.
Well, but they're now, theydid offer, they're given 10,000 doll
bonuses for those air trafficcontrollers that hung around and,
and worked all the entiretime. So, you know, but I, yeah,
but. Oh, well, well, we'll seehow that goes. But yeah, I think
I, I'm Once I took, you know,the Congress, I thought he was talking
about no back pay for thecivilian employees, but. No, absolutely.

(21:29):
It's called the shutdown. It'sno shutdown. Paychecks to Politicians
act and that means members ofCongress do not get paid and get
no back pay. That's the otherside of it as well. And I don't know
that it's going to pass. He'sbeen pushing it. He's the first person
I've seen that have pushed it,has pushed this and hallelujah.
Now too little too late, though.

(21:51):
Well, it's not.
We can't say that.
Well, no, no, no, no.
But, but I mean for this time.But yes. They always need it for
the next time.
What upset what my point is,if this passes, it may solve some
of this problem there. Peopleare going to have to think twice
about doing it.
Sure.
Yeah.
So anyway.
All right, well then what'sthe next thing we got? This is the

(22:11):
one. Yes. Hospice. Yeah, I'mready. I was. I have it ready up
on the.
This is another. This isactually another organization. Mike
was very.
Yeah. And he was on the radio.They had a live on there.
In fact. In fact, Mike wasactually awarded a plaque or hospice
dedicated a plaque to Mike'shonor recently for his service with.

(22:32):
With hospice. Yeah. And it's.There was a little ceremony and all
that. It's a really neatlittle plaque there. So this once
again, our radio. Old podcastradio partner. This was another one
of the causes that he was veryinvolved in.
Light says what the purpose isto raise money, continue because

(22:53):
they are a nonprofit at theHospice of Woodcraft to run it. Yeah.
And they've got an amazingfacility out there. They've keep
ending and everything, whichis on one hand is unfortunate, but
it's a reality and to help,you know, ease that transition of
life, basically. And, and sothey're there to help families, not

(23:14):
just the. And by the way, theyhave services. Even if you don't
take advantage of or your.Your loved one does not use their
services for hospice or if youuse somebody else, they, they will.
They will help with some ofthe counseling, some of the other
services and everything.
They have a lot.
I know they both. Yeah, theygot a lot.
One of the things that I, Iactually was with Elise Echols this

(23:37):
week, and one of the things Ifound out that was new to me was
how large their palliative.Palliative care portion of hospice
is. They, they now service 280 patients.
They have. They have 12 counties.
Yeah.
They serve 12 counties and thephysical facility that they have

(23:58):
over on Johnson Road, theywent from 12 beds to their new expansion
where they have 24 beds. Andyou think about, you know, doubling
the size of what they, theyhad to do before. And then they've
grown this palliative carepart of their ministry. And so many

(24:20):
people are now beingpositively effective in that transition.
And as we, you know, know,we're in an aging part of, I'm in
that part of my life, butthat's a part of our community that
is.
So.
In need of loving care. Andhospice does such a great job of

(24:44):
that.
And palliative care, if myunderstanding is palliative care
is not necessarily end of lifecare, but it's high needs care where,
you know, somebody who may notbe right at the end of their life,
but they, they, they need alot of help and the family needs
a lot of help.
That, that's one of the thingsthat you hit right on there. The,
the, the stress that's on thefamily members. Providing for these

(25:07):
people who have that need, ittakes away from their ability to
deal with the, their dailylivelihoods because they have to
give that extra time and careto someone that needs it when they,
when that person has gotresponsibilities on their shoulders
for family and, and whateverit might be. But, but they, they

(25:30):
give such an incredible reliefto those people in that situation.
Well, and it's, but they alsokeeping in mind that hospice is not
necessarily in their facility.It, it because my father in law.
Right.
They came home health.
Yeah right. They, they, thishospice Wichita Falls took care of

(25:51):
my father in law and in ourhouse, you know, so. And it was a
big relief.
Well, I know it touches,honestly hospice touches almost anybody
at some point to some degree.Mike and I actually my father and
her and his mother were inhospice care toward, at the end of
their lives, almost real closeto each other. I mean not, not at

(26:13):
the same time, but within afew months of each other. And so,
and it was, it was a, itwould, it was a huge resource to
our family. My mother is aretired nurse, so she understands,
she, she understands themedical. She's seen death, she's
seen all that. But it's a lotdifferent when it's your, your husband
of 49 years. Yeah. And, and sothat resource, the hospice and that,

(26:38):
that comfort, the comfortingplace for people who care to, to
not only care about thatpatient and make sure that patient
is comfortable at the end oftheir life, but also care about the
family. And that's one thingyou're going to find at hospice.
They are unbelievable. Thepeople out there are unbelievable
at that.
I just look at, look at what?That, that person that chooses to

(27:01):
serve in that capacity.They're going to be with your mom,
my mom, for two weeks, twomonths, three months, and then it's
going to be someone else.They've created a relationship with
your mom or my mom. And thenthat person's gone. And then the
next person, they start allover and they. I, I don't, I can't

(27:23):
imagine the. I just, I justcan't imagine being able to do that
every day. So their gift toour community is just priceless.
Absolutely.
Well, their goal is $340,000.It has been $300,000 and it's gone
to 340 because theirpalliative care is one of the biggest

(27:46):
things. And they did light thetree. You could watch it live on
kfdx. If you want to go back,you can watch the recording of it.
Darrell Franklin was outthere, if it was a pretty familiar
name. But they lit the treeand I think then it goes off. And
then when they reach theirgoal, they light the tree again.
I believe that's how it works.
The tree. The trees, the stars.

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The star. The star. That'sright. The tree is lit.
But the star tree every day orevery night. And then once they get
their goal mat, then they'lllight this.
It's. It's on. It's on top ofthe bank right there off Camp Street.
Always met the goal, if Iunderstand Chase. Yes.
Yes. Yeah. And the radio dayis December 12th.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't.
That's right. Be sure todonate. All right.

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$10 lights a light.
Okay.
You can give more, but $10lice of light.
There you go.
All right, well the. So wellmove on to the next story. This one
is an interesting once again.
Something I've beencomplaining about for at least a
decade. I'm telling you,they're all.
Man, you're finally.
Check the record. Check. Youcould feel vindicated. You could
go to our archives and Iguarantee there's somewhere in our

(28:49):
archives here that I talkabout. There's no reason for us to
keep minting the penny. And Iknow I said it a dozen times on the
radio, right. So.
Yeah, well, so they find they,they announced. I guess it was actually
through executive order.Right? Wasn't. Didn't he.
I don't know.
I think, no, I think it was anexecutive order that Trump said,

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hey, let's do it. And so theyJust printed on the. Let's see, what
was the last. I've got the.Got a link up here. Print the last
or right. Struck. Struck thelast one. There we go. So United
States Mint host historicceremonial strike for the final production

(29:31):
of the circ of circulating the$0.01 coin.
Well, it costs $0.04 to make.
Yeah.
Look, I'm not as much of amath guy as Steve, but. But even
my dumb ass knows that if itcosts you four cents and it's only
worth one penny once it, youcan't stay in business very long.
Wait a minute, it's only 3.69cents. Come on.

(29:53):
You know, but you know, as amath guy, we round the cost.
I know that's it.
If it's above 0.5, whatever.
But yeah, so basically thepenny first authorized by coinage
act of 1792 has long played arole in daily American life. And
yeah, I mean think about allthe different ones as you're a kid,
you know, you have the wheatpennies that, oh, those are old.

(30:15):
And you had the Indian headand he had the. All the different
kind, wasn't it? Indian head?
Yeah, yeah.
And they had ones with reeds and.
You know, they have coincollector who.
Knows what the first one washad on it.
But yeah, it is like in coincollecting, like new mystologist
or something. It's kind of astrange term. It has, it doesn't
say coin anywhere but forinstance, it's been around for 230

(30:36):
years and it's kind of becomebasically worthless. But when it
was introduced in 1793, apenny could buy a biscuit, a candle
or a piece of candy.
You can't even get a biscuitfor a dollar anymore.
Well, we, you know, there wasnickel candy when I was a kid.
There was nickel candy candy.But not even that long ago there
was.

(30:56):
Yeah, yeah, whatever.
And so it's going to save thetaxpayer $56 billion. And do not
start this crap of it's just adrop in the bucket. Guess what? It's
not a, it's a drop in thebucket, but you do a drop. A drop,
a drop. At some point. Thisbottle of water was just one drop
a bottle of water. And theyput a whole bunch of other drops

(31:18):
of bottle of water and it madea bottle of water. That's right.
It makes a difference.
So as far as the number, therewere 300 billion pennies is what
they're estimating in. Or asof now, 300 billion pennies in circulation.
Now, not now, everybody'shoarding them up and now.
Good, right.
You're gonna. Now how is thatgoing to work though, in a retail.

(31:39):
I guess you'll round up ordown. How does that work when you
give change? I mean, you stilltake cash.
I've always, yeah, I've alwayssaid you just need to round. Right,
Round to five.
Let me just, just answer thatfrom my perspective. I still. No
change by the penny. Mostpeople digitally transact. They don't

(32:02):
have pennies. They don't knowwhat pennies are. You think about,
you think about where we are.Listen, let me finish. You think
about where we are today inAmerica. I've got a grandchild in
college, a grandchild incollege who kind of understands because
he's, he's pretty smart likethat. But everything he does is digital.

(32:25):
Right.
He has a credit card, a debit.
Card, Apple Cash, probably,or. Exactly.
But he does, he doesn't keepchanging his pocket, he doesn't keep
changing his car. He doesn'thave change in a piggy bank in his
house. You know, they don'tneed pennies. They don't.

(32:47):
I don't have any pennies nowbecause my wife keeps stealing them.
She's collecting them.
Well, and I still, and I'mstill a cash person and I do not
want to go cashless society.But it's so easy to round five cents
because it's really not worth,it's just not worth not rounding
it.
Yeah.
So I'm all in favor of this,by the way, to say, how can we dare
discontinue a coin? It'shappened before. In 1857, we had

(33:11):
the half penny, or as theysaid in England, the eight penny.
And it's a half a penny. Andthey discontinued that.
Yeah. How did that work?
Well, I don't hear about complaining.
I never missed it.
No, I got it turned into acollector, probably turned into a
collectible. It spurred on acollect a whole collection thing.
Look, there's, there's a lotof positive to this number, but I

(33:34):
can think of 56 millionmillion billions of pennies. Okay,
hang on. I can think of 56million dollar million reasons why
this is a good idea. Okay,it's not 56 billion, it's 56 million,
which is still not a drop.
Yeah, okay. Save us that muchmoney. All right, well still, that's
still 56 million. Well, maybe50. Well, I don't even have a million,
but anyway, it's more in themoney than I have, so. All right,

(33:57):
well, what's the next thing wehave going on?
Oh, okay, this is Terry'sstory here.
All right. Some of you mayknow and have seen videos from this
guy locally, by.
The way, this is not just alocal thing.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Thisis a national thing, possibly international
thing, although it's not aFirst Amendment auditor or anywhere

(34:17):
else, but I was.
Going to say internationaljail for this.
So this is a. A thing thatpeople do. It's First Amendment auditing.
Now, you've may even seenpeople do Second Amendment auditing
by going downtown or into atown and put a rifle on their shoulder
or whatever. But this isspecifically First Amendment and
they're recording. So you golook, go Google First Amendment Auditor,

(34:42):
and you'll find on YouTubetons of videos of people doing this
kind of thing. And there's oneparticular guy I like up in New New
York. He's the Long islandauditor. His name's Sean, but he's.
He's actually a nice guy.
He says he's probably LongIsland. Yeah, Long Island. They say
Long Island.
Well, he doesn't. But, youknow, anyway, so. So this guy locally,

(35:02):
we have a local version ofthis, but he's only now, I think
he's 17 now. When he firststarted last, earlier this year,
he was 16 and he had. And hegot arrested in the post office.
And we've talked about it,whether we should talk about his
name or not. And I don't wantto give this kid a platform, but
yet at the same time, it's areality of what we're seeing now.

(35:24):
So here's what's happened. Sohe got. I'll think about giving his
name here in a minute, buthere's the deal.
Sure. Call.
Yeah. He got arrested in thepost office in. Earlier this year,
I think it was in April, andthe police officers were called and

(35:44):
this one guy came out that wasoff. Officer Wilson arrested the
kid pretty quickly after hewent through. And he was wandering
around the post officevideoing, and there were several
people that encountered him.There was a. One of the. I don't
know if she's FBI or what, butshe was one of a federal agent was

(36:06):
in the post office.
Inspector.
Right. Well, I don't think.Wasn't right. It wasn't real clear.
But the FBI office is there.It's a federal building as well as
the post office and federalcourt. I mean, there's a lot of things
going on.
There's actually a jail there.
Oh, is there a jail?
Oh, yep.
Oh, okay.
It's not a temporary. I mean,they're going to throw. They're not
Going to hold for Calcutta.

(36:26):
Just a whole gym between.
It's a whole, it's a holding facility.
Right.
When they've got, when they'vegot, you.
Know, trial, federal trial.
Yeah, but, but it has a lockon the door and you can't leave.
Yeah, I call that a jail.
All right, so this kid is, youknow, doing this thing. He, he, they
basically accuse him of tryingto video the private information

(36:49):
because that's where you fillout for your, for your passport and
other information. And so thatwas the guise under which they called
the police. And then thisofficer was very quick to arrest
him and boom, you know, so thevideo's out there. Go watch it and
make your own determination.But he's also, since then, he's now

(37:09):
been empowered. Okay. Becausehe's got a YouTube channel and he
had, I think about 300 orsomething, maybe 600, I don't know,
a few hundred at that timefollowers. He's got over 7,000 now,
which is, you know, in the bigpicture for Wichita Falls, that's
a big deal. But he's gainingnational attention and other things.

(37:30):
But here I think I'm not hereto talk so much about him, although
it's his tactics maybe andsome of these other auditors out
there.
But you're more talking aboutthe right of people who do this.
There's a right way to dothings and a wrong way.
But there's also, there's. Ihave two, absolutely two different

(37:50):
minds on this. First mind is,you know what? Government doesn't
have an outside auditingfeature built in anywhere. It's all
internal. Yes, it's. It allreport. If you look at any government
agency, the Air Force, the,you know, military, the FBI, all
of these guys have at the verytop, who reports to the very top

(38:12):
of the FBI or the. Whateverthat organization is. There's an
offshoot office. It's. It'stheir IG Inspector General generally
or.
Or internal auditor in local.More local.
Right, okay. Yeah, yeah.
So.
But they always report to thetop and whatever that level is. That
way the rest of the hierarchydoes not influence, in theory, how

(38:35):
this dotted line.
They have a dotted line.
Okay, so you've been involvedin that kind of stuff. So. But anyway,
the point is that outside ofthe, that government agency, there's
no body to hold anybodyaccountable unless there's a lawsuit
and there's nobody to test itand to see what's going on. And so

(38:55):
I think there is. And the onlyway to do it is to be self appointed.
These guys do this clearlythey're just doing it because they
feel that's theirresponsibility and that's their mission.
And that and I more power tothem. No official title of this.
Nobody gets paid directly tobe. There's nobody is employed as

(39:15):
that to get paid directly fromanybody. There's nobody that pays
you to do that except throughYouTube or whatever platform you're
on. Now my other mind is thatthis guy, these. Some of these guys
are jerks. They're really bad,they're very short and they're trying
to get an attention. They'retrying to get to trying to egg you

(39:37):
on or trying to reaction andall of that. But I mean. But the
truth is you're also just bysimply doing it, showing up with
your camera and videoing,you're also that right there is trying
to elicit a reaction. But thento he they usually. And I have no
problem with that at all tojust go and test it and see what

(39:59):
happens.
It's a public place, right.That everybody in the public is allowed.
Right. So they. So the ideais, and I'm no attorney clearly,
but going to a public place ismy understanding, as long as it's
publicly accessible duringnormal hours and you're going there
during those hours, then it isfree to video or do whatever you

(40:23):
need to anything that's inview. Much like the cops, if anything's
in view when they're stoppingsomeone and they happen to see it
in your car and they seemarijuana or open beer can or whatever,
they can take action.Obviously not in the same context,
but the fact that it's. Ifit's viewable then it is fair game.
And, and so he. But he's alsodoing private businesses now. He's

(40:47):
not going necessarily. I'vewatched this guy quite a bit. I've
watched a lot of otherauditors too around the country.
And it's generally they goonto publicly accessible. It's private
property. But you have the lawsets aside that median easement.
Technically an easement.
Right, the easement. And soyou can't restrict people from being

(41:07):
on that. In fact, a lot oftimes the city requires you to put
in a sidewalk and maintainthat sidewalk in a safe way. So that
is for all practical purposesis publicly accessible and you have
a right to stand on that. Andthen video all you want, and that's
the First Amendment is thatthey're expressing their whatever.

(41:31):
You don't have to be anofficial. There's no card carrying
media thing going on here. Soyou don't have to prove Anything.
And so what happens is thatwhether it's public or private, he
goes into publicly accessibleareas on public property or publicly
leased property, and then hevideos. And oftentimes he's greeted

(41:51):
very lightly and they ask himwhat he's doing, and he. He generally
responds politely. But themoment that there's any resistance
or some people are confused,they're not used to this when you
walk in there. I mean, wehave. These wonderful public employees
are trying to do their job. SoI understand the frustration. But

(42:13):
they also have to realize theyare publicly funded and there are
certain rights that, as anindividual, even if you don't like
it, they have the right to dowhat they're doing. Apparently.
They have the right to comeand watch you do your job.
Right, Exactly.
They. They. You. If you'repaid by the taxpayer, right. A. A
person and you're paid by thepublic, that the public has a right
to come watch you do your job,observe from. Do your job. As long

(42:36):
as it's not sensitiveinformation. Yes.
And they don't.
Long as it's accessible toeverybody and.
You don't get in the way ofdoing their job. And so if you're
going into it, becausegenerally you walk in and there's
officers, either a desk thereor there's. There sometimes Plexiglas
windows and things like that.So here's some examples, though,
of what he's. That I have seenhappen. I've seen him do some good

(42:58):
things, and I've seen him dosome really stupid, jerky things,
and he has. So, for instance,I guess we just jumped to the recent
thing with Judge Campbell.He's been out. Yeah. He's a Clay
county judge, and here.
At a meeting with him last night.
Right. Okay. So. So here I.Within the last couple weeks, he

(43:20):
usually. The kid publishespretty quickly. So he went to Clay
county and was wanderingaround in the offices, and he went
into, I think into theproperty where you pay your property
taxes and that kind of stuff.I don't know what else is there.
I don't know if that's whereyou do the.
Yeah, that's where.
Yeah. Is that the building? Okay.
County assessor.
Right. Okay. So anyway, he wasin there and actually had an encounter

(43:42):
early on with the judge, andthere didn't seem to be any big deal
there. It's then when the kidwent into the back where the court
is, there's a hallway, andthen inside of one of those offices
to the left is the actualcourt, the commissioner's courtroom.

(44:04):
But this particular day is onthe right. Oh, is it on the right.
This is the judicial courtthat judge holds court in. Actually
holds court.
Right. But what I'm saying is,again, I never stood in there.
The hallway. If you go. Ifyou. If you're looking down that
hallway from the perspectiveof where the. Where the guy was,
to the right is a commissioner.
Okay. That's the court. Whatwas to the left is that.

(44:24):
His left is a court. There'shis office right here. And past his
office is a courtroom.
Okay.
And it is a actual courtroom.
Right. Well. Well, thecourtroom, obviously is where, generally
speaking, the court. Theactions occur, things that hold in
the business of the county.But then certain days, there's juvenile
court, there's judicial court.

(44:46):
Judicial. They have. They havecourt. There's juvenile and adult
judicial court. Different days.
Okay, okay, so.
But this a county judge. Okay,real quick. A county judge is this
basically like a CEO of acounty. And a lot of what they have
to do has business, but they.The word judge is in there for a

(45:06):
reason. They are judges.
Right.
They do have a real courtroom.They put the robe on and they pass
judgment. Okay. And they dothat. You know, I don't know how
it depends on how big yourcounty is, how often you do it, but
they do it at set times. Andat that time, that county judge is
like a magistrate. He is thecounty judge at that, or he is a
judge, and he's in judgment ofsomebody, and it can be criminal.

(45:29):
Right now, it's not going tobe. He's not going to do the Scopes
trial, but I mean, it's one ofthose deals. But if it's misdemeanors,
but they'll have. Have.They'll have juveniles and they'll
have adults. Different days. Right.
This particular day wasjuvenile court. And the fact that
kids are going in and out ofthese offices and through the. Through

(45:51):
the hallway was the concernthat the judge had and that he was.
Right. Valid. Absolutelyvalid. And so that he was designating
that this whole hallway wasthe court. And I think that's where
the kid was like, well, no,it's not. And I think to some extent,
and it is nitpicking, but likeI said, this is where I absolutely

(46:15):
have two minds. I want to knowwhat, again, just curious, what procedure
legally, because I understandto a point of what seems to be pretty
clear about what they can andcan't do and what have access to
these auditors. But thenthere's a gray area in my mind because
I don't know what that is.Where can the judge decide? Okay,

(46:35):
I'm going to re. Even thoughon a day to day basis, it's probably
individual offices, they canclose the door. But if this door
to this hallway doesn't haveanything that says this is a restricted
area, then if it does, then hecan't go in there. If it's pre designated
and it's then, then myunderstanding is they can't just
walk, waltz in there and go,hey, in video. But if there's no

(46:57):
actual label on there, then.And maybe it could be done temporarily.
I don't know. I have a lot of questions.
Well, they'll, they'llprobably put signs.
Well, they will.
Now, I'm sure the point is defacto, okay? In the law, you have
written law and you have defacto law, which means it's law or
rules that we've all acceptedas a society. That we've accepted.

(47:19):
Right? Okay. So in Claycounty, because of the way that their
courtroom is structured andeverything, they have, they have
a building, a room to theright, basically that is the commissioner's
courtroom. Okay. And it just,it's, it doesn't look like a courtroom.
It looks like, it's got, itlooks like an office room, Right.
But it has tables in front andstuff, like a little dais. And then

(47:40):
they have a hallway and thenon the left they have the actual
courtroom. Well, they hold,they have witnesses. You can't have
ever all the witnesses andeverybody sitting in the courtroom
at the same time because. So,so you have to have witnesses and
stuff like that from here. Andyou have to transport them from here
to there in that hallway. Andbecause they're juveniles, that hallway

(48:02):
has been restricted to publicaccess. If I showed up, they would
ask me to move.
Right?
Well, right. And if you showedup, they'd ask you to move on. So
where I think the guy, the,the guy's being a dick is he's taking
something that he's, he'staking something that is a de facto
rule. It's a common practice,okay. And he's trying to push it

(48:23):
to the degree of. I don't seesigns here and you can't call this
that.
Right.
If that's what we do andthat's what we've done and it's not
unreasonable. You know, ifit's unreasonable, it's a different
story, you know, but if thejudge can't show up and you're walking
down the street, he goes,okay, this is a courtroom and I'm
going to try you right here.That's unreasonable. But if this

(48:43):
is what we've done, this isthe way we have it set up. And we
have it set up because itprotects the juveniles.
Right.
It's different if when they'reholding a adult court, you can walk
up and down that hallway allyou want, but since it's juveniles,
juveniles have rights that.
Right.
Adults do not, that are beingcharged with a crime or being adjudicated.
Right. Well, and, but. Okay,but on those days, then if that's

(49:06):
the case, here, here's. Here'swhat I have seen and observed. Just,
again, I'm not an expert inthis world, but I, I think I have
some reasonable things thatI've observed and noticed that I
have questions, but I thinkthis is probably reasonable to expect
that they walk in. If somebodywere to point out, hey, I'd like

(49:28):
to go in here and observe andnot be a jerk. And they go, well,
no, you can't. Well, well, itdoesn't say here. Well, well, it
is. We're designating it.It's. It's this way. It's the way
it is. Well, could you. Wouldyou mind, you know, checking into
maybe putting a sign up andleaving? Right. It's not going to
happen. A lot of stuff doesnot happen until somebody pushes

(49:49):
the button really hard andthen brings it up in court or makes
a big stink out of it and getsa lot of attention. Okay. And so
that's where I think sometimesthat government officials, government
workers, government anything,sometimes, as we all know, we've
observed this, that they blowoff the little people. Right. The
citizens and, oh, you're justmaking it, you know, you're just

(50:10):
making a big deal out ofnothing. Well, maybe, maybe so. But
it's little more than nothing.Maybe you need to consider whether
it's a temporary thing forjuvenile court versus a regular court.
They have a sign, juvenilecourt in session. You know, I don't
know what it is, but again, Ithink it's. He's a jerk. He's absolutely

(50:31):
being a jerk. He doesn't haveto be that way. And sometimes he's
clearly technically correct.You don't have to be a jerk about
it, but sometimes things don'thappen until somebody's a jerk and
somebody pushes the issue. Andthat's. Is that. Mike, I'm trying
to.
I understand what you'resaying, and I don't disagree with
you on the concept. Iunderstand what you're saying, but

(50:51):
there are some situations thatif somebody says, hey, this is how
we conduct the business here,and it's reasonable. It's not unreasonable.
It's not like the judge says,get out of here because I told you
to get out of here. He saidnumerous times, there's juveniles
here. Right. That's the reasonwe do this and that a reasonable
person would accept that,okay, there's juveniles. They have.

(51:14):
Juveniles have more rightsthan adults do in when they're being
adjudicated. Therefore, thisis what their procedure is, and we
just need to follow it. Sowhat are your thoughts on this, Steve?
I know we kind of yak a lot, but.
Okay, I'm gonna, I've beenquiet and, and dangerous and taking
in what you guys have said.And now I'm going to speak my piece

(51:36):
because I did have a personalinteraction with this young man.
Oh, okay. And seniors. Yeah.
My, my. It's because it wasn'tworthy because you're so nice. It's
exactly. He was trying to be,as you said, a jerk. He was trying

(51:56):
to elicit a response from me.It was, it happened at church. It
happened on the sidewalk atFirst Baptist Church on a Sunday
morning. And I had been madeaware of him ahead of time, so I,
I, I knew who he was. Had it,had I not known, I probably wouldn't
have been as easygoing.

(52:19):
But.
I have a streak, like a lot ofpeople do, and, and it really came
forward in my personalityquick, and I had to really work hard
to keep that squelched. But myproblem with him and people like
him is what is their real motivation?

(52:43):
Exactly.
Yeah.
What's the real motivation? Itwasn't to find out what the truth
about Christ was. It was toget me or someone else into a position
of anger, of unreasonableness,so that he was right and that person

(53:05):
was wrong. That, that is what.I have a real problem with him and
people like him becausethey're not trying to find out what
was really going on in court.He was trying to get a response so
that he and his YouTubechannel and his personal desire for

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celebrity would grow. That's,that's where I, I am on all of this.
He has an absolute right to bein a public space. He just does.
But what's his motivation?
Well, you have a right tothink what you would. You have a
right to your opinion. He hasa right to do it, and we do have
to defend that. Now. I thinkthat there comes a point when, like,

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in this, I think, where hedidn't have a right, at some point
he was told to leave. It's ade facto rule and all that. But,
like, what you're talkingabout he has a right to do this,
and you have to res. You haveto respect that he has that right
because we all want to live inAmerica, and we don't want our rights
trampled on either. But by thesame token, I totally agree. You
have a right to your opinionabout what he's doing, and you have

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a right to express that to himabout what your opinion is about
what he's doing.
So on this, though, I like tosay that I spent 20 years in the
Air Force to do my little partto protect his right to be an idiot.
And I'm calling him an idiotbecause he's such a jerk. And you're
right. We don't truly knowwhat his heart is, but his actions

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sure indicate that it's notabout educating, because I think
if you really look at. Andagain, this is my view of what these
guys are doing. I think have areal, true heart of education, that
this could be done in such away that he's going to win more hearts
by doing and being nice andbeing a Steve Garner. If you did

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this, you would be like, hey,I'm here truly to educate, and I'm
just here to test and see whatwe can do. But no, he just does jerky
things. He was stood outsideof a colonial. One of the videos
I saw, and was standing thereand he was talking.
About some Colonial Baptist church.
Yeah, Colonial Baptist Church.
A large Baptist local church.If you're not.
He didn't get any. I didn'tsee anything really bad, but he did

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get a few negative reactions.That's why. Why he showed it and
he didn't show yours. But he.
He.
He was being weird is what hewas being. He said, well, my. I forget
the name of this fictitiouscharacter that he says tells him
what to do. Jason orsomething, I don't know. And he was
just making up. It's like,dude, really? And he. And. And the

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guys are trying to be great,you know, thoughtful. Hey, why don't
you come on in and we'lllearn? You know, we got this and
this going on at, you know, Iguess it was a Sunday evening, maybe,
or a Wednesday evening, Idon't know. But whatever it is, he's
definitely a jerk at what he'sdoing, and I think he could do so
much better. Just anotherthing that. Here's where I think
people need to be prepared.And that's what I. That's the reason

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I wanted to make this and talkabout this, is that don't engage
if you don't think you can Bepleasant with the guy. Don't even
go up to him. Don't get yourphone. I mean, you can do whatever
you want.
Walk away.
Right. But my suggestion isdon't get your phone out and video
him because he'll go, hey,you're practicing your First Amendment.

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All right?
I mean, he'll celebrate thatin a really sarcastic way.
It's performative. What he'sdoing is performative.
Yes.
Yep. And that's really. If,if. And, and I would have a lot more
respect if he had. Like yousaid, the guy says, you know what?
I, I want to educate the public.
Yeah. Truly.
I want to educate the publicon the react, on what happens here.
And quite frankly, I go backto my statement earlier. If you are

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a county paid employee or a,I'm sorry, government paid employee,
and your job is not asensitive job, and somebody is not,
is going to any, any placethat the public can access, if I
can walk in there and see it,it, you know, then, then there's
no reason you can't film it.And so you have to be prepared for
that. But the other side ofthis is, and where this guy's taking

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a risk is because he's goingto run into the wrong person one
time. Oh, yeah. Who's notgoing to care about his public rights
and they're going to kick hisgoddamn teeth in. And, and I'm just
saying that's what's going tohappen at some point with people
like this, this. And I don't,I hope it's not a public official
that does it. Right. And, but,but it will probably stop this if

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he gets, I mean, there aretimes that, that, that consequences
matter. Right. Andunfortunately, in this day, in this
society, we have now thatpeople play on video games and you
get to, if you get killed, youjust hit the restart or something
happens, you get. People don'trealize that there are consequences.

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And there are people in thisworld and there are people in this
country that are not going toput up your crap and they're not
worried about going to jailand they're not worried about their
consequences. So peoplesometimes don't live in reality.
This is some of thehatefulness that you see the things
that people say about otherpeople with the vitriol and things
like that. You wouldn't darestand to somebody's face and say

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that to them. Not because theymay do anything, they're not going
to do anything to you, but inthe back of your mind, what if they
go off? What if they leave it?
Yeah. And Just to be clear,none of us here are absolutely. Are
wanting anybody to do that.We're not suggesting you do. To take
the guy down or anything.Please don't, actually. But he is.

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I understand you haveconsequences. If you're not going
to say please don't, butunderstand. Because there's consequences
to every action.
No, I know.
I do think sometimes society,one thing that holds our society
together is that there areconsequences. Yeah. And we need to
have consequences. We need tohold each other accountable. And
so if somebody gets way out ofline, you know, then they're going

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to have to accept thoseconsequences as if the person who's
going to administer thoseconsequences, they have to accept
those consequences. So doanything to the guy because he's
not worth it.
Yeah, right. It's just.There's too much.
I have too much to lose. Butwhen I was 24 years old, you might
have. When I was 19 years old,I had nothing to lose.
But you might have gotten awaywith it, too. So. But now you.
Back then. Yeah, right.
But now it'll be on video, you.

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Know, and so you have to becareful. You don't want to run into
those people who don't feellike they have a whole lot to lose.
They're going to spend anight, so it's not going to. Not
going to do anything. Andthey're going to make sure that if
they're going to spend a nightin jail, they're going to make damn
sure it's worth it.
And I may suggest that youdon't be like this one couple that
I saw on the, on one of hisvideos. He went into the license

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office in the Wichita CountyAnnex. You know, your driver's license,
but your tags. And this oneman, a part of a couple, just, you
know, he. He's like, he justirritated and he walked off. And
I think it had. There been novideo, and maybe even if he had and
he was in public or not inpublic area, he might have taken
this guy out. But he didn't.He, you know, walked away and made

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a few comments, but it washis, his spouse, his wife or his
girlfriend or whatever. Oh, mygosh. She got up, started videoing
him tat for, you know, tit fortat. And then she proceeded to say
things like this. I mean, I'mparaphrasing here, but the actual
points are made. I hope youdie. I hope you die in an auto accident.

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I hope you get cancer.
That's her, right?
Right? No, no, absolutely. Butit just made her look. It's now what
he walked in was about him, isnow suddenly about her.
She has to face those consequences.
Exactly. And I'm justsuggesting that that's probably not
a good way and again,depending on what your goal is. But

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be prepared. That's the wholepoint. Choose. Oh no, I just spilled.
I got a build.
A $37 coffee.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well,anyway, so all of that I get. Yeah.
Be prepared and, but alsodon't be a jerk.
And this, this is anotherthing that I've, I've said for a

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long time. Okay. There's avideo where he gets really nasty
with a police officer andreally for no reason. Okay. I've
always been, been very big onholding cops accountable. I've said
for many years if I, if Ithink a police officer violates a
crime while on duty, it oughtto be triple punishment because you
have a gun, you have a badge,and you have the power of the government

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behind you. So it's worse,it's worse for a police officer to
commit a crime than it is anormal citizen, in my opinion, while
they're in the course of theirduty. That being said, I have a huge
amount of respect for 99 ofthe cops because 99% of them are
great people. Yeah, there'sjust, there's a, there's a percent
or maybe there's 98%. There'sa couple percent. And they're real

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assholes and, and they causeproblems. But my point behind all
this is this kid follows thiscop out. Cops walking away, going
to his truck, kid walks out. Igo back to my video game analogy,
folks. This is real life. Thisis not a video game. And that person
number one has had combat handto hand combat training. You may

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be able to whip them, you maynot that you don't know they have
a gun. Yeah, they have othermeans to subdue you. Okay. What if
that person just loses theirminds or turns around and puts one
in your head? Yeah, they'regoing to go to prison, but you're
dead. It doesn't help you. Sojust need to be careful when you
confront people. When you,when you confront people that have

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guns, that are walking aroundwith guns that you need to be careful
on your confrontation in theway you want to go because chances
are nothing's going to happen.Right. But when it happens, it's
usually pretty bad. Well, justunderstand there's consequences.
And I think there's one otherpiece of information that's, that
might be behind some of this,the, this, this kids. And I'm going

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To call him a kid. He's 17, asfar as I know. 16. 17. But basically
he. His dad apparently. Andthey've even said he's a former police
officer and we've done alittle light research. Apparently
was in Iowa park and this guywas not necessary. But based on some
of the reports that we've hadon an upstanding police officer during

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the period. I don't know whatthat means. But the point is that
his dad is really behind thisas well. He is video and in many
cases he's been on site withthe. With him in various places.
And so this. So he's beingtotally encouraged by his dad. So
his dad is his role model insome ways which may or may not have

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been a good thing.
So I like your grin, Steve.
You got something to say here?
Just.
I'm trying. I'm trying to justtake as much of it in as I can.
He's let.
Jesus. Yeah, so. So anyway,but. But here's my. My point of all
of this. Whether. And againthere's. He's got a following that.
That's a reality and there'speople that have posted on that that
are totally against the cops.Totally gets, you know, all this

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stuff and that's fine,whatever. But my suggestion is if
you see this kid, just beprepared. Just be. Again, I'm just
saying be nice to him even ifhe's a jerk and just realize he does
have some rights and thecalling the cops now has turned out

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to be nothing other thaneducation on the people who are calling,
even on the private property.And just be aware. Just be aware
of this person in WichitaFalls and the surrounding in Clay
County. He's going around andchecking. Has gone to Iowa Park,
I think. I don't know if he's.I've seen anything in Burke yet,
but he's def. I believe he'sgone to Iowa Park. He's Archer County.
I don't know. He's going to bearound and he's unfortunately not

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going to go anywhere.
It's performative once again.He's trying absolutely. That he's
trying to. He's trying to beget his two and a half minutes of
fame.
Yeah.
Well it boils down to.
Yeah. So anyway, so that.That's that.
Well we was. Let's put theMicrosoft thing off till next week.
Yeah, we're wrong here. So.
Yeah. So we'll cool go aheadand wrap it up. All right. Yeah we'll
wrap it up here. But anyway,so we appreciate y' all being here.

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Us and thank you very much.Yeah, thanks for coming with your
insights.
Appreciate was a pleasure tobe here.
It always is.
Yeah.
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