March 24, 2025 • 62 mins
Ep.72 Part 2 Relentless Pursuit Ft. Nick Urankar
Nick Urankar shares his philosophy on creating meaningful impact through energy and presence while discussing why plateaus don't exist in fitness or life.
• The concept that results are already within you but may not have revealed themselves yet
• How comparison can be helpful if we look at our journey differently and focus on positive interactions
• The importance of simplicity in fitness and business — focusing on fundamentals rather than complexity
• Building a personal brand organically by developing a passionate community around shared values
• Finding balance between ambition and contentment by appreciating small moments and "overflowing others"
• The value of taking consistent small actions rather than waiting for perfect conditions
• Being willing to fail publicly and commit to growth even when it's uncomfortable
• Understanding that legacy comes from how we make others feel, not just achievements
When you wake up tomorrow, ask yourself what you weren't proud of today, what's one thing you wish you would have done different, and then commit to doing it as soon as possible.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
people to think like I was trying to be fake or
pretend, but I just want peoplewho ever got around me to be
like there was some, like therewas something else there.
There was some like I was drawnto that, like I want to have an
energy, because I think that wecan all do this, where, like
(00:20):
anybody who leaves a room that Iwas in feels different, and I
think so many times we're like,oh, my cup needs filled and
their cup needs filled, and it'slike this even thing, and it's
like, no, we can all justoverflow each other.
That's what I want is likepeople to leave and be like I
need to be that.
So when you look back, I thinkthat why I don't believe in
(01:06):
plateaus is that you don't getto decide when something comes
out.
And the example I would use islike Braxton.
All right, braxton, let's sayyou've been squatting forever
and you've hit 495.
And for a year and a halfyou're like I just can't squat
500 pounds.
I can't squat 500 pounds.
I haven't even hit 495 for ayear and a half.
I'm at 475.
(01:26):
And you walk into the gym oneday, put 500 pounds on the bar
and you squat it and youimmediately say I'm now stronger
, I squatted 500 pounds.
I would say no, it was in youand it's been in you for a long
time.
You just didn't have it.
You didn't have a way to showit.
Whether it was, you weren'trecovered.
(01:48):
Whether it was you had you hadit and you just didn't do it
that day.
It could have.
You could have had it for ayear.
We don't get to decide when theresults come out, and I think so
many times people haveeverything in them.
They just haven't put ittogether, they haven't had the
moment to show it.
And most of the time when thathappens, the next time, alston
(02:09):
Braxton's like I did 530.
Wait, you got that muchstronger.
No, you gained confidence.
Confidence will carry you.
So whenever, like progressingwith somebody, the goal is to
build confidence throughout andeventually you hit a point where
the next step is hard.
I don't believe that to be aplateau, I believe that to just
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be hard and it's a choice.
And the hardest part with thosechoices is I like graph it a
lot.
I'll get like a whiteboard andI'll show this graph of like.
Here's where you are and thisis age right.
So here's zero and I'll showthis graph of like here's where
you are and this is age right.
So here's zero.
Here's when you started.
You've progressed, you're hereNow.
You have two choices Keep goingand eventually we're going to
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hit this level, and our goal isto keep the top, the top, as
long as we can and keep theslope slow.
Most people stop and they falland they restart here farther
along the line, and then theycompare themselves to where they
were and they think only if Ican get back to here, I hear
that so much why, why do we stop?
(03:16):
And it's that it's this up anddown.
And for me, when I talk tosomebody and this relates to
anything, this is work I thinkevery single thing compounds on
itself knowledge compounds,workouts compound, money
compounds, like every singlething compounds.
And if you stop, it can stopand it can slow.
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And most of the time what endsup happening is, if somebody
ever stops, they look at wherethey were and they don't want to
start because it takes too longto get back at where they were.
And they don't want to startbecause it takes too long to get
back to where they were.
And that's why I don't believein plateauing, because if you
believed in it, eventuallyyou're going to be like, well,
there's no purpose now, there'sno reason, and it's like, yes,
there is.
You may not know right now.
(03:57):
Again, to go to what I do for aliving, what like to go to?
Like what I do for a living,what I do for a living didn't
exist when I started doing it.
Like I have online businesses.
That there wasn't onlinebusinesses.
I was doing CrossFit, which Ididn't think was a thing, like
there wasn't money in it, thereweren't sponsors, like nothing
(04:18):
existed.
I grew in it.
But now people are like I wantto do what you do and I'm like
it might not exist, like I don'tknow, like do you just want it
because of money or what do youwant it for?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
so I, yeah that it's really interesting hearing you
talk about the look back.
I mean, that's something jakeand I talk about often of
something that we struggle withand have challenged ourselves
this year, of being more, youknow, intentional, of looking
back and understanding thesuccesses and how far we've come
, cause it's so easy Any of uswho are, you know, chasing
(04:52):
something in life, like we'reconstantly moving the bar, so,
like you, you never feel likeyou've accomplished anything
because you never give yourselfthe opportunity to enjoy the
moment which I've explained onhere, like my wife's really good
at that and she's really goodat reminding me of, like look,
where we're at now.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I think what's interesting too is comparison we
talked about, but that we don'tdo it in like the worst right,
like we look at people who aredoing better, but like, do you
ever look at people who you'relike that?
I'm glad that I didn't decidethat and then see and then ask
yourself how, how long would ittake them to get to where I am
(05:36):
and I and in along those linesit's the same thing as like
online, right?
Eventually you guys will getmessages like your podcast sucks
, like you sell, like an r&bsinger braxton, like what the
heck.
But here's the thing I used tocomment every negative comment
and it would make me feel likeall that it was was negative.
And one day years ago when Istarted getting a lot of people
(05:59):
saying a lot of stuff, I allright, for every one negative
post you comment to, you have tocomment to 10 positives and
what I learned was there's somuch more positive stuff out
there than there is negative.
And then you start looking andyou're like who's saying it?
You're like I'm so glad that'snot me Like, and that's where so
(06:21):
for me.
Compare, I do not, and that'swhere so for me.
I do not.
I compare in the normal stuff,but I love my life and it wasn't
easy.
I don't think it was meant tobe.
I wouldn't love it if it wasn't.
And yeah, I look back a lot inthe direction of how far I've
(06:45):
come, but also in like where Icould have been, yeah Not, why
am I not somewhere else?
It's like I'm right where Ineed to be, based on everything
I've ever done.
That's why we're all sittinghere.
Yeah.
If I want to be somewhere else,do something different.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, so let's, let's talk about this life.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I know that you know you and Jake are.
You're sharing theentrepreneurial.
You know spirit and mind and Iknow Jake's got.
You know some takes on on thatside of you.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah for sure.
Before, though, cause you talkabout him squatting 500.
I feel like a lot of peopleplay a mental game with
themselves, like they overthinka lot, and I feel like that puts
like a lot of toll on anythingthat you do, like lifting
weights or anything like that,cause, like you said, it's
already in you, but it's alsobeing confident and believing
(07:35):
that you can do it, but I feellike people just overthink way
too much.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, and that's that's where like everything to
me is like simplicity.
So example in weights is a great.
It to me is like simplicity.
So, example in weights how is agreat?
It's an easy way to do.
This is like, let's say, youare somebody who's stuck
somewhere at some weight.
My guess is you warm up withthe exact same weights to get to
the exact same place.
Every single time.
You have the exact same problem.
(08:00):
My strategy would be the nexttime add five pounds to every
single thing that you do on yourway to that weight.
Okay, cool, like, yeah, but Istill failed the end.
Yeah, but you lifted so muchmore weight over that time
period.
And then the next time do itagain.
And if it's like well, I don'tlike to start that heavy, cool,
(08:20):
add an extra set, but always beprogressing somewhere, whether
it's a rep, a weight, an amount.
It's not all about weight, it'snot.
But ultimately, like, if you dothat enough times and you add
enough sets in the beginning, oryou take them away and you add
enough weight, eventually you'reactually going to have that end
weight be your middle weight.
If that's your goal, yeah.
And that's where I think a lotof times, we, we, we think if we
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just keep trying, we keeptrying, we keep trying, we keep
trying, it's like adjust, make asmall tweak and because, how I
look at, it is not the end.
Okay, you still kept failing,that it's like, but we are
progressively increasing ouroverall work capacity during
that time.
So that is a win, and I'malways looking for a win.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
There you go, okay, you being an entrepreneur owning
a business and your personalbrand.
Obviously I just started myapparel brand.
It's been two years since Istarted.
I always get, you know, I'vealways had people say, oh, you
don't have a big following, ohit's not going to take off.
And then I hear like all thesebig, big you know big names
(09:26):
saying don't start an apparelbrand.
If you don't have a bigfollowing, don't start an
apparel brand.
Always hear it and I'm like youknow what?
I block all that out.
I don't, I don't hear it.
I'm still going to put mypassion into it and, you know,
pushing the the be bettermindset out to people.
Um, what's been the hardestpart of growing your personal
brand?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
oh, the hardest part of growing my personal brand.
Well, I would say that Istarted not knowing I was
growing a brand.
Um, a lot of times, you know,I'll talk about different things
and with people as far as like,what do you do, how do I do
this, how do I do that?
Um, honestly, I didn't even tryto make money online when I had
(10:12):
a decent following for fouryears.
So I think, for me, whenthinking about like a brand,
it's like now looking, what I'mlooking at now is like,
essentially, I'm creating anavatar.
Right, who is this person thatI'm speaking to?
And I think for most people,you don't need a big audience,
(10:34):
but if you don't have a bigaudience, you need like a
passionate follower, like like aperson who's like an
evangelical, like this is thismatters.
And here's why, um, if and if Iwas thinking about a business
now, I'd be like okay, how can Ithen take that and make them,
(10:56):
make, help them, use theirplatform to help the cause?
And that's what I would befocused on is like taking them
and building this like cult,like following, to be able to do
that.
And for me, I would think moneylast and speaking to the that
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group and not a, and it would bemore about like why are we
doing this?
Not like, oh, this is a, thisis great clothing, this is great
.
But it's like why are we doingthis?
Not like, oh, this is this isgreat clothing, this is great.
But it's like why are we better?
How, what, what do we stand for?
Why do we stand for this?
And I would be like missiondriven.
And then it's like if this ishow you feel, this is what we
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wear.
So it would be very much a likedaily, just speaking to that,
and then randomly just likecause, I think the best brands
it's it's not, it's not, you'renot a brand until you're a brand
or you're just you're, you're acompany, and it's like well,
(12:03):
let's build something.
And I think online it's likeyou build a community.
And that's where, for me, I hada community of people who
looked at me as holy crap, thisis like the strongest guy in the
sport.
He's.
I was like people like you'relike six, three, two thirty.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I'm like no, I'm not camera, add some weight and that
braxton's height.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
People would see me in person and be like nick's
actually for those of youwatching standing right now yeah
, oh wow, there's a hole it's atrampoline.
Oh, that's great yeah no, Imean, I think you look at.
You know at least the way Ilook at things.
You know I don't necessarilybuy when it comes to apparel or
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other things, necessarilybecause of the apparel itself.
It's because of the company andthe values and what they stand
for and who they are.
That's what attracts me and I'mlike.
I want to support that.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
That's what draws me to it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And I think honestly, some of the biggest companies
do not have big followings.
They have big budgets.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yes, 100.
Honestly, some of the biggestcompanies do not have big
followings they have big budgetsyes, 100.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So there's, there's that, there's that game.
It's kind of like for me.
I think a hard thing for meright now is mine was very
organic in the sense of.
You know, I grew a following andit was kind of like they wanted
stuff, so I just gave them whatthey wanted and grew stuff
through it to the point of, like, I've done very little
advertising, um, marketing.
It's just been, uh, fortunatelyorganic.
(13:33):
But I know that I could scale.
I know that I could do a lotmore and I think for me, that's
not where I feel like I'm calledright now, um, and that, I
think, is the the tough part,right, like, if you're like, no,
I want to grow.
Like, what are the goals of thebe better brand?
Right, what compared to like,what are the goals for me over
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here?
And I would say that there are.
They're different difference Ihave is I have a bigger platform
.
I wouldn't say that it's abigger brand.
I mean, probably, yes, it is,essentially, but probably not to
scale.
And, yeah, the, to me, I thinkit's one of the coolest things
to be able to try to takesomething, especially that
nobody thinks that you can do.
(14:15):
And here's the thing If itdoesn't work, it did work.
Like, I don't think thatthere's such thing as a failure.
I mean, we obviously fail allthe time, but it's just learning
, right, like, I think thecoolest thing about
entrepreneurship and like cause,I had an apparel company and I
still kind of do.
I don't push anything on it,it's just Zeus method.
(14:37):
People are like I want to beZeus athlete.
Yeah.
And things change.
Like example for me.
Or let's say, you're out thereand you do have like a small
company and you're doing allthese things, but then people
keep saying a similar theme oflike, well, why don't you do
this, why don't you do this?
(14:57):
And these are the people whoyou're like they own the stuff I
have, they care about what I'mdoing.
Maybe I should do that and you,they care about what I'm doing,
maybe I should do that.
And your business evolves.
I think so many entrepreneursget stuck in this one lane of
like.
But this is who we are, this iswhat we're doing.
And that's where, if you'relike mission driven and you're
talking about like, what is itthat we stand for?
(15:18):
Eventually it might be acommunity that gets built, and
then that community is builtaround this concept that
ultimately has apparel that thenpeople latch onto through
secondary outlets of peoplewalking around wearing this.
So for me, I'm like a lot oftimes there's this where's the
pivots?
And it's when you hit thepivots, what do you do?
And I think in apparel there'sa lot of pivots you can take,
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whether it's adding, taking away, or saying hey, hey, we're
gonna add this thing over hereand see what happens.
Um, if you talk to a lot ofentrepreneurs, they'll say you
know big ones that have blown upor like, really have grown big
things.
They're like you know anybodywho's made a lot of money?
It's one thing right.
They say seven streams ofincome.
(16:03):
You know a lot of people like,oh, it'd be a millionaire, seven
streams of income.
But really it's that one mainone.
Yeah, but inside that one mainone, a lot of times there's a
lot of things, yeah, and I thinkthat that's where people can
get skewed.
It's because they're like well,that business is where you made
all the money.
It's like, yeah, doing 15things, yep, exactly, but one of
those 15 things hit.
(16:24):
And that's the part I think.
A lot of times people aren'tpatient enough to walk through
the process of the pain.
And it's the same thing as thelift, it's the same thing as
right, it's one inch.
It's like you don't know howfar you are away from striking
gold and you may never, but youalso might.
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And to me, if you always havethat hope and that drive, go,
chase it.
In the US, we are not going togo hungry and go without a place
to be, and I think that we'reall in probably a good place
that we don't have to worryabout that.
Yeah.
(17:11):
So if that's the case, whywouldn't you be fine failing
every single day after the thingthat you want?
And that's why, like people canlook, like you can see, like,
oh, nick, had all thesesuccesses.
Like in the beginning, I, Idon't think I was a success, I
just think I didn't quit and Igot mediocre results.
And if I yeah, if I had to doit again, I'd do it way better,
but I wouldn't go back and do itagain, I wouldn't change the
thing.
Like the struggles that I hadto go through, the sacrifices,
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like the failures.
Again, I learned so much andthen I didn't quit.
I just I was done.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's made you who you are today too, the person you
are but sticking it's made youwho you are today to the person
you are but sticking with thebusiness part here, this one
obviously.
I'm obviously going to takenotes from you too.
What advice would you give tosomeone thinking about starting
their own business in thefitness world?
We'll just say, just in thefitness world starting your own
business in the fitness world?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, there's.
I would say this in anybusiness business, there's two
things you need, um, you need acustomer and something to sell
them, and I think that that'swhere you start.
I think too many people want awebsite and you know I need to
have the right this and that,and I need to build the thing.
(18:22):
And I think, if you talk withany any entrepreneur that
started and is where somebodyelse wants to be, maybe it's in
a newer area, like, like example, for me, online.
When I started, I had peoplepay me through paypal or they'd
send me a check once a month andI would send them a numbers,
(18:45):
spreadsheet of stuff or just anemail.
There was nothing fancy and Igot paid hundreds of dollars per
person and I'd be like thisisn't fair like ah, nobody,
there was no ebooks you made andyou already like
had this perfect document.
I'm gonna spend so much moneyon developing these things.
Who, who wants what you have?
(19:05):
And then some people are like,well, I don't have anything.
Well, then, find the thing theywant and see if they want it.
And if it's not good, change itand see if they want it.
So, for me, what is it that youwant to sell?
Not, what do you think you cansell?
Some people are like, oh, Icould do this.
And if you are passionate aboutfitness, the number one thing
that I would do right now if Iwas starting something brand new
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, is I would go online.
I would ask every single personI know and I'd be like I want
to help you for free and I wantto help you what is your goal?
And I want to get you to thatgoal.
And I'm not going to say I wanta testimonial.
I want you to do these thingsfor me.
I want to help you until youreach that goal, but along the
(19:48):
way, I want your feedback andI'm going to create things and
I'm going to find out like,shoot, they didn't like it.
That wasn't fun.
I'm going to talk to thesepeople and I'm just going to
give as much as I possibly can,away for as long as I have to,
and I'm going to find out whatis it and I'm going to talk to
those people and then I'm goingto figure out how can I ask that
person to ask somebody else.
And I'm going to do that aslong as I have to and then
eventually, I'm going to findout what is it that I can make
(20:11):
or create, and then I'm going toask people if it's really good.
And here's the thing If it isreally good, I can run ads.
And that's what I would end updoing is I would say okay, this
is good.
And what I would say is thishow much would you pay for it?
And I would start having somepeople charge me.
And if I made 300 bucks, I'mlike all right, I'm running $300
ads and I'm going to learn thisads thing.
(20:31):
I'm now going to go online, I'mgoing to go to YouTube, I'm
going to go to YouTubeuniversity and I'm going to
watch every single thing I canabout how to run Facebook ads.
Or I might even createsomething and put on TikTok shop
because it's free.
You can do so many things rightnow, but the problem is
everyone's like yeah, that's theproblem.
No, what are you going to sellto who Once you have that you?
(20:55):
Have a business.
Once you take some money, it'snot more complicated than that.
You can then get an app forfree and have them.
Just you just pay a fee.
You can sign up for Stripe andsend out invoices and create
membership stuff, subscriptions,and have people pay you every
month to just send an email.
Hey, I'm going to do a $10 amonth thing, subscription-based.
(21:18):
Here's my link.
Has what it is?
Boom, all you pay is 2.9%.
There's no fees, there's nowebsite.
You then can go on and create afree website and add free stuff
.
You can go to fiverr and havesomebody, for 50 bucks somewhere
in the world, create an amazingfunnel and boom, you can create
an email list and just starttalking to them all the time.
(21:40):
Like, there are so many thingsthat you can do, but the number
one what are you going to sellto who?
And then, after that, theworld's your oyster.
I could tell you 50 milliondifferent ways that you can go
down the rabbit hole, and it'sfun.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's the thing.
There's so much stuff on socialmedia and like on the internet
that it's free, that you cantake advantage and use.
It's so awesome.
Yeah, it's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
There's so much stuff on social media and on the
internet that's free, that youcan take advantage and use.
It's so awesome.
Yeah, it's so awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, it's just people taking the action to do
it.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, that's what I mean.
I think some people will say so.
The hardest part, I think,about a business like a fitness
and kind of most businesses.
You open up a gym way different, up a gym way different, and
the reason why is because I cango and be like, oh, I have this
thing I just made.
I made a pdf and I'm gonna tryto sell it.
(22:32):
Oh, nobody bought it and Itrash it.
I open a gym and nobody comesin the doors.
Tomorrow I'm opening the gymagain and I'm trying to get
people in the doors, and thenext day I'm opening the gym
again and I'm going to throw allmy money I can because I put
too much money into this to walkaway from it.
And I think too many peopledon't have skin in the game and
they act like they do becausethey tried, yeah, that that
doesn't cut it.
So for me it's like how can I?
(22:54):
When people ask, how do youstart, I'm like, well, you put
your toe in the water and youfall in and you and you start
drowning and you figure out howto.
It's like burning the boatsright, you have to be able to
find a way to shut off the.
I'm stopping.
But you can't just say like I'mgoing to quit everything, I'm
going to go all in.
If it doesn't work, I'm goingback.
It's like, no, don't quitanything, add this, and if you
(23:17):
don't like it, then youshouldn't be doing it.
It has nothing to do withquitting.
You shouldn't be doing thisLike it's like when I starting
anything, there's no, there's noquit, because I there's no end.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Like you're right, it's true, you know, I just I'd
like I said a lot of people.
Just you've heard, I mean youhear there I forget the
percentage, but there's only acertain percentage of people
that have the right mindset tobe an entrepreneur, because a
lot of them can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
you know, I think so it's kind of like when you talk
about like adhd, they're like,oh, you know, if adhd, I'm like
yeah, but I can find somethingthey can focus on.
Yep, we all know things thatpeople can focus on, and I think
that it's not that people can'tbe entrepreneurs, it's that
people don't don't want to sitin the.
(24:14):
Everyone sees that I'm notmaking this the way that they
know.
I want to and I have to do itin front of them.
And people have to know andmost people fail because they
don't ever let anybody see thatthey're trying.
And it's the cyclical thing.
If you put forth very littleaction and get very little
(24:36):
results, you lose confidence.
Therefore, you start to feellike a failure.
So the next time you try, youtry less, see less results.
Where, if we can reverse it, itand we can basically make it to
where?
Like what if you stopped caring?
And I think that that is awhole podcast in and of itself,
because we all care.
(24:56):
And the thing, the reverse sideof it is saying, like, well,
all these people are looking atme like, oh, you're a failure.
The reverse side of it is butthose people, if you make it,
are going to be like, well, yeah, but you were lucky, how?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
you know that statement.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And then you're going to have some people that say,
well, how'd you do it?
And you're going to look atthem and be like what do you
mean?
The whole time I was doing it,you were telling me I shouldn't.
That's how I did it.
I didn't listen to you.
And because they I think a hardpart for me when it comes to
business, when it comes to mostthings, is that go on social
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media.
All that social media does, likeTikTok and all these, is
they're showing you a way to dosomething that fits the life you
already have, that gives youthe result that you want, that
that you haven't got.
But you don't have to changeanything now to get it, because
all you have to do is whatyou've been doing, because
somebody just said it works.
So then you're like wait aminute, okay, and then three
(25:57):
months later you're like wait,it didn't work.
And it's like, yeah, and itdidn't work the last time.
But all of you are searchingfor how to get the results you
want, living the life you live.
And I fall to this point allthe time and I say why can't you
just learn to love where youare?
Because if you're not willingto change, you're not going
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anywhere else.
That's what I see social mediaas is.
It's a place for you to try tofind what it is you're looking
for wrapped in the box youalready have.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It is.
But there are people out therewho don't do that, but far and
few between.
And people will say, dude, Ilove that you don't sound like
everybody else.
It's like, well, I don't listento everybody else.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's the thing you can't.
You need to stay in your laneand focus on you, man.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
There's nobody that's above you that will ever
criticize you and put you down.
And those are the people thatyou need to go to and ask, and
that's where you need to seek,because those people are going
to be like, hey, is this reallywhat you want?
This is going.
What you want?
Like this is gonna be hard,like this is not gonna be easy.
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Like building a building,apparently it's not gonna be
easy.
It might take you 20 years.
You cool with that and it mighttake you 20 years and it might
not still cool with that.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, all right, go, that's how it's gonna be, man,
it's, it's how it is.
It's not.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's not an overnight success, you know, but what,
and that's what's what's success, I know you know, we, we said
that on the last episode,literally man, like many people,
could look at my life and belike that's it.
I'd be like yeah.
I made it Like now.
Does that mean it's over?
No, does that mean that, like Imade it and it's like I'm done,
or like no, but like, right nowI'm good and there's more.
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What's next?
I'm good and there's more.
What's next?
Yeah, there's more, and thewhat next might be less.
It doesn't have to be like.
I think most people it's likeoh, it's a, it's a financial
thing or it's a this, and it'slike.
All those things are alwaysgoing to play a role, but the
smaller you make it matter, mostlikely the bigger it's going to
end up being anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, I mean there's.
There's two quotes I think ofwith the comment you just made,
it's are you willing to sprintwhen the distance is unknown?
And I think there's a lot ofpeople who it's like if I don't
know where the finish line is,I'm going to pace myself and
that's just the way that wecan't go hear a lot too.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They're like well, remember, a marathon is like
it's slow, so go slow, and it'slike I think entrepreneurship is
just you sprint and you rest,and you sprint, and you rest,
and you sprint and you rest, andyou sprint and you rest and you
sprint and you rest and justkeep doing that.
There's no.
The only time you stop and youslow down is when you get
somebody else to sprint for you.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
And now you got a business Like there's no.
The only time you stop and youslow down is when you get
somebody else to sprint for you,and now you got a business.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's amazing.
So let's talk.
Let's talk in today's terms.
What does a day in the lifelook like for Nick?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
This is hard for me because my I don't know how to
look back and explain to peoplewhat my life looked like.
Obviously, I did that a littlebit here, but in a regular basis
I don't.
So most people just hear mewhere I'm like.
So my days, um, so there's,there's my days right now with
my wife.
So, um, my, me and my wifenever worked out together
because I was always trainingand competing and she was like
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you're way too intense, likethis is too crazy.
And when we sold the gyms, Iwasn't ever training in the gyms
, I was training by myself, butnot like in classes.
And my wife would kind of belike hey, you should come in,
it'd be really good, you shouldcome in.
So I would go in.
And it's just hard to go into abusiness that you've sold, and
(29:51):
for multiple reasons, and we'llleave it at that and I just
would train at home.
Well, now my wife has been likeI want to work out with you.
So my day now looks like this Iwake up at about five o'clock
in the morning.
Now, now, granted, I'm in bedby like 8.39, so I'm getting my
eight hours.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
We better hurry up and wrap this up, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I wake up at 5.
My wife would wake up at 4 andwalk for an hour and do her like
standing vibrating,thingy-ma-jigger whatever do her
red light therapy in her faceand I wake up at 5, and I drink
a bunch of water and I make acup of coffee and I sit down and
I sip my coffee for like 20minutes and then at 5.30, she
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comes up.
Sometimes maybe 10 minutesbefore that we get in the car
and we go to the gym and we workout for like she'll time it
every day.
It's like 54 minutes or 56minutes and we're back at home
by 6, 45, 7.
My oldest one leaves for schoola little bit before 8.
My wife normally takes her toschool.
(30:59):
My youngest one is waking up atthis point and I kind of joke
around with her and I'm the likepoking guy and they're like dad
, stop, it's early.
And I'm like, smile, I'm pokingthem and then I take my
youngest to school.
That's an eight 50.
She gets dropped off and thenI'm thinking what am I doing
with my day at that point?
And I normally look at my daysat like as like two hour blocks.
(31:21):
So I've got that five to sevenwith my wife, I've got seven to
nine kids stuff, and thennormally I start at 10.
So that nine to 10 is like Inormally will have the dog with
me in the car.
So I might think like, oh, I'mgonna go to a coffee shop, or
I'm gonna go someplace and I'llcome home and I'll take him out
of the car, and I might be likeyou know what, I'm not going to
go to the coffee shop, I'm justgonna go to the basement.
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I'll grab my computer.
I normally will look ataccounts, like I pretty much
look at most of our accountsjust in the morning.
It's just like a habit I've had.
I'll go onto the business andsee like okay, who signed up,
you know?
And then on Mondays and onThursdays or Fridays I send out
emails.
So I'll either have wrote anemail Sunday night or I'll sit
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down and I'll write an email tosend out to my subscriber list
and then I'll look at programsthat maybe need some tweaking or
different stuff.
As far as, like on Zeus method,which is my company for
programming online, that if Ineed to add anything into it
I'll do that.
I'll go to a coffee shop, have acoffee, sit open my computer,
play a little on, like YouTube,like read, read stuff.
I'll put a book in my ears,listen to something.
(32:28):
Normally at this point it'slike noon and I'm wondering now
what am I going to do?
And I'll like now I'll go home,I'll throw with the dog, listen
to more of a book or a podcast.
I've got till 3, 30 to 3, 45 topick up my daughter, so I might
get bored.
I'll make some content.
So I'll make some videos.
(32:49):
Um yeah, and at this point it'slike I start to kind of get
bored.
I think people underestimatethat Because my business is
pretty self-sufficient and it'ssubscription-based for the most
part.
So I'll talk to people onlineand people message and I
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normally post online at between8 and 8.30 in the morning, if
not earlier, and I don't postanymore.
I literally post.
So I don't go on social media,I don't it's I.
I personally don't enjoy socialmedia as a consumption tool.
I I always tell my kids I, youcan either be a consumer or
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creator and I'd rather create,and hopefully I'm creating some
value.
So I'll pick up my youngest andand a lot of times too, my wife
will come home and me and mywife I have like an hour
conversation inside that window.
I'll pick up my daughter comehome and I'll be like you got
homework, sit down with her, dosome stuff, maybe play with her,
do something, go on a walk.
(33:52):
And it gets to a point whereit's like six and it's like
dinner and then I basically hangout with my wife and my kids
and that's kind of like what it.
I made that really long forlike not a whole lot, but that's
most days it's pretty um so forme right now.
I was creating a lot of stuffbefore that, meaning I would
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take a lot of time and try tobuild something new, and I
realized a lot of it was justbusy work.
So I'm taking this season rightnow to really find out, like,
where do I really want to makean impact and kind of slow down
and take the time that I've I'mprivileged to have.
And it's really hard for me tobe able to say stuff like that,
because it sounds like, dude, doyou do anything?
(34:34):
And it's like I do a lot, butit's just my life, it's part of
it, like I don't look atanything, nothing, I, I, I don't
know.
It's just so hard like to say,like, what do you do for the
business?
A lot of stuff, but it's justlike I just do it, like it's
just part of my day yeah, it'slike your routine, yeah but it's
, and it doesn't take long andit's fun and I enjoy it.
(34:55):
And my wife will always be likewhat are you doing?
I'm like I just love this, likeI get to do this.
This is so cool.
Like I'll sit down sometimesand just create programs.
Some days I might just sitthere and just do that for a
while.
Other days I might just be likeI'm gonna go to a park and walk
for hours and just learnsomething in my ears.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So I want to tell you guys a couple stories here
about Nick.
And so there's a lot of thingsthat I admire about Nick, and
since him and I have becomefriends.
He laughs, but he knows howmuch value he's brought to my
life, and you know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Is this some?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
of the value.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
This is.
It is that's brought to my lifeand um.
You know the value this is.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It is Um so Nick and I are at dinner a couple of
weeks ago, yeah, and um, youknow, we're we're talking
through some things and we'retrying to figure out, hey, we
should get another uh couplesdate night on the calendar
calendar, and so I pull up mycalendar and Nick pulls up his
(36:00):
and mine is just he's a crazyguy and Nick pulls up his and I
think he had like the nextmorning he was having coffee
with someone and then therewasn't another thing on his
calendar until like two weekslater and I'm like like my mind
(36:22):
is just absolutely blown.
But what I love about that,where I'm getting to, is Nick
and I have had a lot ofconversations about like how
different of a place of lifethat we are when it comes to
like career and schedule and how, like I am trying to do
everything I can to remove somethings from my calendar to open
(36:44):
up freedom, to focus on thingsthat add value, whereas nick has
created that freedom in hisschedule, um, but he's looking
for opportunities of where hecan add things that create value
, and so that's been a reallycool thing, just to you know,
for him and I to go back andforth and talk about perspective
(37:05):
and you know just schedulingand life, and you know we talk
about balance on here and whatthat looks like.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And that was the first time I'd ever heard
anybody say that.
When you said that to me, likeI never thought about it, like
that I'm trying to add, and somany more people are literally
just trying to get things outand take things away yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
The second thing that I admire about Nick is that the
dude can find joy in anything,and the the one of my favorite
stories that his wife Chelseatells is you know, a few weeks
back we got all this snow.
We get all this snow.
I can't believe she said this.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Did she say this to you?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, she told me to my face Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't know if she sent you video.
She took videos of this.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Chelsea and the girls are in the house and they're
doing something maybe makingdinner and she peeks outside and
Nick's outside by himselfbuilding a snowman, and I'm like
that would never even cross mymind.
I mean, maybe if Copeland orAviana asked yeah asked me hey,
dad, like let's go outside makea snowman, but like to just like
(38:19):
, hey, I'm gonna take the timeto enjoy the snow we got and
build a snowman, I'm like wedidn't get this much this year,
so he had to.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I just put my dude, I put my foot in it and I was
like that's packing snow nomoney, that was it that was that
was it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
So it's just, it's amazing to see the life that
you've built and how you justyou cherish a lot of the little
things a lot of us take forgranted Just because we loaded
our calendars and we're so busythat we miss those moments.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I appreciate that I mean I, yeah, I mean that's it
is.
I do take a lot of that stufffor granted.
An example is like I think mykids struggle with doing
anything alone because I'malways up for it.
Example like we were driving.
I take my daughter home it wasa Sunday night from soccer
(39:11):
practice and we do carpool and Icarpool for soccer and my
daughter she they always ask forstuff, ice cream or anything.
My daughter's like, hey, dad, Iknow you're going to say no to
like ice cream or anything, butcan we go to the park?
And you chase us.
(39:32):
And I was like, yes, and I letthem out.
And they're like, give us 10seconds.
So I videoed them run, likerunning away from me and we
played tag for a half hourbefore the girl had to go home.
And it's that stuff where, like,my kids will go to places and
every single kid ends up playingwith us and my kids.
(39:57):
When we leave, they're like dad,everybody loves you, like all
these kids.
And I was like, yeah, but it'swhen you invite people in, every
single kid wants to be playingthat game and that's that's the
part where, like, I I put a lotof, I beat myself up a lot
(40:18):
because I don't feel like I doenough.
And then I think I I look and Ilike admire the fact that I'm
like dude, but where you are inyour company and what you're
doing and what you're buildingfor your family and all these
like that's awesome, that'samazing.
All these like that's awesome,that's amazing.
And it's the flip of like wait,it's kind of amazing that I get
(40:39):
to do what I get to do too, solike there's that it goes every
way.
Everybody takes for grantedwhat they have, like what they
have, what they don't have, whatsomebody else does, what they
don't do, what they.
And my biggest thing is that'swhy I, I live by like happiness
trumps everything, find joy inanything, experiences matter so
(41:00):
much and I'm kind of like alwaysup and my mom or my wife always
say she's like Nick is alwaysup for anything.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, I mean, I think so many of us listening to this
right now.
You know you look back, maybejust within this week, like how
many times did the kids ask you,hey, let's go outside and and
play?
Or you could have very easily,like your kid, your daughter's
eyes hey, can we go play tag?
And you're like well, it's beena long day and I'm exhausted
and I we need to get home so Ican eat dinner.
I need to get back.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
You know on the computer like we miss yeah those
moments well, everybody's heardthis, i'm'm guessing, and if
you haven't, here you go.
You know there's when I had ourkids or the kids were young.
I used to always say to my wifeand I still say it, but I said
it a lot it's like I pick themup and I'd be like there's going
to be a last time I do this,give them a kiss.
(41:51):
I'm like there's going to be alast time I do this and I do
everything.
And she'd be like all right,nick, I get it.
I'm like no, no, but but Iwon't know the last time.
And example I just had saidthis.
So we were having a familymeeting, we're all talking, and
I brought up, uh, my wife said,hey, I want to start.
So I basically put the kids tobed, like I'll like give my
(42:13):
youngest one a kiss.
If I'm in the other room withmy oldest one and we're laughing
and stuff, she'll be like hey,why?
Why didn't you laugh with me?
Yeah, so my I basically and Iwas like tearing up telling this
to them is I was like do youknow, jada, when you turned 13,
(42:34):
I went to give you a kiss andyou turned your cheek.
And when you turned 13, I wentto give you a kiss and you
turned your cheek.
And when you were 14, she's 15now when you were 14, you
accidentally kissed me.
That was the last one.
Like, people don't get toremember that, but I remember
the time that it could have beenthe last.
(42:54):
And then I remember the one youaccidentally did and I wanted
to tell her you accidentallykissed me because I think she
knew it.
But it's that stuff like I toldthat story to my mom, like
there's a last time.
You, I'll pick them up, and mymom looked at me and she was
like I want to pick you up rightnow and she did and it just
like brought a smile to her face.
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And I think a lot of times weoverestimate how much value is
in these.
What we consider small, mundane, non, there's no value in it.
There's so much.
Every, every hard thing you'veever gone through or in a person
that was with you.
You remember way more than youdo the best things and, and I
(43:37):
think, the people that are withyou the most now are the ones
you need to celebrate theselittle, tiny things I mean just
joking, like I'll grab yourchest, grab your shoulder, like
make you smile.
Like to me I'm like when you seesomebody smile, that that's,
that's a gift.
So I love everything prettymuch.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Jake, yo Want to run Nick through a rapid fire.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Do you like all of them?
Yeah, man.
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I wrote down some stuff, I think.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Uh-oh, you ready.
Set the timer.
Let's do it do it okay, rapidfire, coming at you I have to
answer rapidly.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
No, no, no, these are just real quick real quick
answers and I mean, I'm thefirst one to do this right.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
You don't have to explain them in detail.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
If you don't want to, okay, no, no, go to pre-workout
meal.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Dude coffee, but, like I said, grabbing my
espresso specifically, oh yeah,and just sitting down and not
feeling rushed, I don't need anyfood.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Nope.
No, me All right.
One book that changed yourperspective.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Rich Dad, poor Dad, big Time and then kind of all
his stuff like Cashflow Quadrantblew my mind and then I
actually wrote.
So books are like my thing.
I even wrote down a couple.
There's a book called theAlmanac of Naval Ravikant.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
I've heard of that one Awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Be Obsessed of them.
Awesome, um, be obsessed or beaverage.
I probably listened to thatlike 15 times.
I don't know if you guys haveheard that.
Grant Cardone, yep.
Um, so I'll go with that.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Toughest workout you've ever done.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
This is really hard, um, because there's there's two,
and they both happen to be okaythree.
Two of them were at theCrossFit Games, so it's really
hard to compare.
So if I tell you what theworkout is, people are always
like, oh, I've done that before,that wasn't that bad.
Oh my gosh.
And I'm like I can't even tellyou I couldn't.
(45:52):
I okay.
So the workout was it was Murphat the CrossFit Games and it
was event like I don't know whatnumber event it was.
It was up there and it was atnoon or one o'clock in LA Sun
was over us, it was like 130degrees on the floor and I I
didn't do Murph.
(46:12):
I did Murph plus like a ton ofreps Cause I got no reps, so
much on pushups.
I don't do Murph.
I did Murph plus like a ton ofreps because I got no reps, so
much on pushups.
I don't know how many pushups Idid and I basically why it was
so bad was the workout finishedand you weren't allowed to leave
the floor, like there was noshade, no nothing.
You weren't allowed to go offthe floor.
People were hiding under tables.
It was really bad.
(46:40):
And I got out of the stadium andthere was a tunnel and I sat
down in the tunnel and there wasa bunch of people by me and I
had water bottles.
I think I was drinkingsomething and then all of a
sudden I see a girl coming by mecrying.
There's a girl on a stretcher,somebody's being carried away,
and I realized it's been an hourand I looked down and I have 10
bottles empty that I must havebeen drinking.
I had to move.
Nobody was by me anymore.
The women had already gone,which meant I was going in like
(47:01):
a half an hour to compete againand I just blacked out.
Got up and people are yelling myname to go and do the next
event.
So I ran out to the next eventnot even knowing what was going
on and I bombed it.
But that workout was horrible.
Another one that wasn't at thecrossfit games was I did a
(47:23):
workout that I'd saw that was atthe crossfit games before.
I was good and I somehow got inmy car, drove home and woke up
laying on my porch.
I don't remember hours.
I didn't want to say the word.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
It was like three workouts all like back to back
to back.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Yeah, yeah, so beat that yeah Right Best piece of
advice you've ever received.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Oh my gosh, that is, is there really a best piece of
advice?
Or is it a best piece of advicein the best, in like the
perfect situation?
Because I think I've.
I don't think I took advicevery well for a very long time
and, and I would probably say,the best piece of advice I've
(48:21):
ever received is like this one.
I didn't even really know howto even think about it because
essentially, almost like you'regood enough and in the context
(48:46):
of it was basically like there'sno success, the top, all that
stuff is, it truly doesn't, itwon't matter and, like you, are
already plenty yeah and actuallylike believing that.
(49:07):
So I think I think sometimes youhear things that you're like
we've all heard that and it'slike now.
But sometimes, like you hear itand it and it actually hits.
So I think sometimes the theweirdest things just hit right.
So like you're enough and Ibelieve that I'm not perfect,
I'm not even close.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Yeah last one, one thing most people get wrong
about fitness it's so simple.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, it's so simple, we just complicate it, yeah
like sure do like everything Icould.
Literally we could all nevertouch a piece of equipment and
give us a flat ground andprobably in five years I we
(49:57):
could all be looking the samelike I like breaking things down
like this.
All that lifting weights is isyou're just fighting against
gravity and making it harder towork against it.
So if you don't have the weight, just do more of making it
harder to fight against gravity.
(50:19):
That's literally all thatlifting weights is like.
When people like try to makeall these complicated things
like dude, no, you're justfighting, trying to jump really
high, you're just seeing howhard you can push and fight
against it before it pulls youback down.
Lifting weights is just pushingmore of you farther away from
(50:40):
the ground against gravity Likethat's it, because that that's
why I'm like when people arelike, oh, you have to do it, no,
you don't just get your bodystronger against pushing against
gravity in any way withanything, I don't matter.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
That was it, man.
Those are.
Those are the ones.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So you and I you touched on this earlier in the
podcast and you and I've beenhaving a lot of conversation
about it lately, but you knowwhat?
What's next?
What's the future look like?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Um, I think that's hard,because I feel like I have this
gift of time that I don't wantto waste.
I'm 41.
I feel like I'm 20.
(51:31):
I think for me, it'sunderstanding that there's a lot
of opportunities and for me,most people don't feel like they
get a lot of them, but it'sbecause they haven't learned to
see them into how to like, grabone when it comes.
So for me, I think it's notrushing into what's next and
what what I say right now isnext, I'm probably going to be
(51:54):
way off.
So for me, it's saying that ifI want to have an impact and I
want to make a purpose, there'sgoing to be an opportunity to do
that, and I don't have to rushinto it, I don't have to force
it, and for me it's right now.
I think in the season of thislife it's getting around people
that are going to push me inways that I can't do myself,
(52:18):
that I've gotten to this point,essentially utilizing me to get
where I am, and now I'm here andit's like there's more and I
need help and I need to be ableto take that and use it.
(52:38):
And you know, braxton's somebodythat I look at as like, I feel
like a person that coulddefinitely push me in ways that
I that I need, um, and in waysthat I that I need, and in ways
that, like, I think, a lot oftimes, the best ways that
somebody can help you is,without even trying, like they
just they are who they are andthey inspire by that and
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therefore, you're like, in orderfor me to stay in this, I need
to keep moving.
Otherwise, I'm going to be leftbehind and I'm going to be the
one looking at everybody aroundme saying why are you guys all
changing?
I'm going to be left behind andI'm going to be the one looking
at everybody around me sayingwhy are you guys all changing?
I want you to be who you were.
Instead, for me, it's like, ifI put myself in rooms of people
who aren't settling, then I'mnot allowed to either.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
When the day comes that Nick's no longer here?
What do you want your legacy tobe when the day comes that
Nick's no longer here?
Speaker 1 (53:28):
what do you want your legacy to be?
I want, I mean really I lookand I want my kids to be like my
dad loved us so much and,through us, shined on so many
(53:48):
people and impacted so manypeople in ways that he didn't
know he was, because he was justbeing him.
I don't want people to thinklike I was trying to be fake or
pretend, but I just want peoplewho ever got around me to be
like, fake or pretend, but Ijust want people who ever got
around me to be like there wassome, like there was something
(54:12):
else there.
There was some like I was drawnto that, Like I want to have an
energy Cause.
I think that we can all do thiswhere, like, anybody who leaves
a room that I was in feelsdifferent, and I think so many
times we're like, oh, my cupneeds filled and their cup needs
filled, and it's like this eventhing.
And I think so many times we'relike, oh, my cup needs filled
and their cup needs filled, andit's like this even thing and
it's like, no, we can all justoverflow each other.
(54:33):
That's what I want.
It's like people to leave andbe like I need to be that.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
That's good.
So with with the, the listenersright now that may be in a
position where they feel stuck.
We talked about being stuck inweights and stuck in progression
, but for someone who feelsstuck in life, what would your
advice be or next step that theycould take?
Speaker 1 (55:00):
You're not alone.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
We all do.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
But we all think we're alone and I think being
stuck is one of the hard, orfeeling like you are.
Because it's a hard, it's hardto reach out.
When you feel that way and Ithink for me it would be you're
not alone, don't quit, and thenumber one thing would just be,
(55:26):
take everything that's happeningas a way to learn, because if
you feel stuck, all you need todo is change what's happening.
Change something little littleby little, by little by little
by little.
Just make these slight changesand I think most people feel
stuck and stay stuck becausethey don't change and they'll
(55:48):
say they don't know how.
And what I would say is you doknow how, you just don't want to
do it.
I think we all just as fitnessis simple and every most things
in life are very simpler and weare very scared of if we just
try a little, we're gonna failand everyone's going to see it
(56:09):
and we would rather stay andfeel like well, but I haven't
tried.
My my daughter just said to meshe wasn't smiling in the car
today and I said we got to thepoint to where I was like if you
smile, I'll get you Starbucks,and she goes straight face.
No, you won't.
And I said and she goes straightface no, you won't.
(56:35):
And I said you would rathertake a zero percent chance of
getting it because you don'tthink you could than even having
a one percent percent shot ofgetting it.
With a smile I was like, wow,think about that.
She's like, well, that's my ego, it doesn't want to.
And I go, yeah, but like you'rewilling to take no, like
there's not a shot, you're noteven willing to take a chance.
(56:56):
That's how people are.
So then I said to her can Ihold your hand?
And she just busted outlaughing did she get her
starbucks?
Speaker 3 (57:07):
no, she didn't smile because, I said that's over you
Speaker 1 (57:09):
know, she said but you wouldn't have gotten.
I'm like, well, maybe not todayeventually, but but, but it's
that, but that's it right.
If somebody says to you like,hey, give me your hand, I want
to help you, and you're like, no, what?
Okay, what if they can't helpyou, cool, cool, they want to.
They'll walk with you, maybethey'll jump down there with you
(57:30):
for a while.
But most of the time we give upeverything for a 0% chance of
moving forward, because 1% isn'tenough.
So we take nothing.
That's the stuff right.
That's the stuff where I'm likeman.
The next time that you don'tthink there's a shot.
(57:50):
You don't think that there'sthe stuff, right.
That's the stuff where I'm likeman.
The next time that you don'tthink there's a shot, you don't
think that there's an option,you don't think that there's
anything.
Think about the choice you'reactually then making, because
most likely it's one that has a0% chance.
I'll always take 1%.
This has been really good.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
We got a couple more here.
You want to hit?
Oh wait more I thought that wasit.
That's it in in closing it's aclosing, oh god.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
So basically, I mean obviously yeah where can people
connect with you?
You know, follow your socialsand your journey.
Where um?
Speaker 1 (58:22):
instagram, nick your anchor, tiktok, nick dot your
anchor.
I think I don't know why nickyour anchor just didn't work.
After a while I'm going toprobably start doing some
YouTube stuff.
I just hired a videographerthat will be following me around
a lot more, so I'll be gettingsome more content, probably
doing my podcast again, maybe.
(58:42):
So maybe we'll have to do somecollab stuff.
And then Zeus Method is mycompany.
There's an app Zeus methodtraining on any app store.
Uh, you can also just shoot mea DM.
You can email me Nick at Zeusmethodcom.
Uh, I'll get back to you.
I love chatting.
If you want anything, I've gotfree workout programs.
(59:02):
You can try even just a bunchof workouts If you just want
them just to run through again.
Fitness is simple.
You don't need to have anythingcrazy, but as you develop,
you'll learn, you'll grow.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
so, yeah, there you have it, last one yeah, I mean
so before before I get this lastone in closing, I just
appreciate you being on.
Um, like I said, you've been anincredible friend, super
inspiring to a lot of people.
Uh, chelsea's incredible, yeah,oh, she makes me better.
(59:34):
So I mean, chelsea, what'sfunny is that the two of them
balance each other out.
You know, she, uh that's whatyou told me whereas, you know,
nick has has done a really goodjob of finding peace in where
he's at and the things he's beenable to accomplish, like
Chelsea's the go-getter.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
She is a dog.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
She's awesome and so she is also a fun follow on
social very inspiring.
You watch what she does on aday-to-day, she'll make you feel
like you're like man.
I got to start moving.
What milestone did she hit?
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
How long, so many steps she's done she's walked
700-some days in a row of 10,000steps.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
So it's incredible.
It's like 700-something so it'sincredible.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
It's like 700 something.
Yeah, she, she.
When she starts something likeif she didn't walk one day 10
000 steps just on accident, sheprobably would just stop.
She's like oh, and she'd belike I need something else yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
so for the ladies out there that you know that want
to find a female, that's reallysetting the standard and doing
some really cool things, chelseais the most authentic person
that I've ever met and a littleplug if you're looking to sell a
house.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Yeah, real estate, both of you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, I got my license too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
We're giving Chelsea the spotlight, though.
Yeah, no, my wife is way betterthan me Go to my wife?
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, no, my wife is way better than me.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Go to my wife.
So last one before we exit.
What's one challenge you'd putout there for our listeners to?
Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
help them level up in their own lives.
I would say, when you wake uptomorrow, ask yourself what you
weren't proud of, what's onething you wish you would have
done different, and then saythat today you're going to do it
and do it as soon as you can.
And then tomorrow, when youwake up, say it again don't make
a 30 day or a 90 day goal.
(01:01:40):
Just if there is something thatyou want to make a change in,
most likely when you wake up,ask yourself what it was,
because you're very clear andjust do it.
Then Boom, every single day,one day at a time.
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
I dig it.
That's it.
That's it, man.
Appreciate you coming man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Hey, thank you guys.
It's huge, it's awesome, it wasa good one.
Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
All right, everybody.
We appreciate you.
Share it out, tell your friends, we'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
DM Nick.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
DM Nick.
Yes, not weird stuff?
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Not yet, don't do that.
I get lots of weird stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I got a side story about that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Okay, that'll be on the next episode and we're out
of here you.
people to think like I was trying to be fake or
pretend, but I just want peoplewho ever got around me to be
like there was some, like therewas something else there.
There was some like I was drawnto that, like I want to have an
energy, because I think that wecan all do this, where, like
(00:20):
anybody who leaves a room that Iwas in feels different, and I
think so many times we're like,oh, my cup needs filled and
their cup needs filled, and it'slike this even thing, and it's
like, no, we can all justoverflow each other.
That's what I want is likepeople to leave and be like I
need to be that.
So when you look back, I thinkthat why I don't believe in
(01:06):
plateaus is that you don't getto decide when something comes
out.
And the example I would use islike Braxton.
All right, braxton, let's sayyou've been squatting forever
and you've hit 495.
And for a year and a halfyou're like I just can't squat
500 pounds.
I can't squat 500 pounds.
I haven't even hit 495 for ayear and a half.
I'm at 475.
(01:26):
And you walk into the gym oneday, put 500 pounds on the bar
and you squat it and youimmediately say I'm now stronger
, I squatted 500 pounds.
I would say no, it was in youand it's been in you for a long
time.
You just didn't have it.
You didn't have a way to showit.
Whether it was, you weren'trecovered.
(01:48):
Whether it was you had you hadit and you just didn't do it
that day.
It could have.
You could have had it for ayear.
We don't get to decide when theresults come out, and I think so
many times people haveeverything in them.
They just haven't put ittogether, they haven't had the
moment to show it.
And most of the time when thathappens, the next time, alston
(02:09):
Braxton's like I did 530.
Wait, you got that muchstronger.
No, you gained confidence.
Confidence will carry you.
So whenever, like progressingwith somebody, the goal is to
build confidence throughout andeventually you hit a point where
the next step is hard.
I don't believe that to be aplateau, I believe that to just
(02:31):
be hard and it's a choice.
And the hardest part with thosechoices is I like graph it a
lot.
I'll get like a whiteboard andI'll show this graph of like.
Here's where you are and thisis age right.
So here's zero and I'll showthis graph of like here's where
you are and this is age right.
So here's zero.
Here's when you started.
You've progressed, you're hereNow.
You have two choices Keep goingand eventually we're going to
(02:52):
hit this level, and our goal isto keep the top, the top, as
long as we can and keep theslope slow.
Most people stop and they falland they restart here farther
along the line, and then theycompare themselves to where they
were and they think only if Ican get back to here, I hear
that so much why, why do we stop?
(03:16):
And it's that it's this up anddown.
And for me, when I talk tosomebody and this relates to
anything, this is work I thinkevery single thing compounds on
itself knowledge compounds,workouts compound, money
compounds, like every singlething compounds.
And if you stop, it can stopand it can slow.
(03:37):
And most of the time what endsup happening is, if somebody
ever stops, they look at wherethey were and they don't want to
start because it takes too longto get back at where they were.
And they don't want to startbecause it takes too long to get
back to where they were.
And that's why I don't believein plateauing, because if you
believed in it, eventuallyyou're going to be like, well,
there's no purpose now, there'sno reason, and it's like, yes,
there is.
You may not know right now.
(03:57):
Again, to go to what I do for aliving, what like to go to?
Like what I do for a living,what I do for a living didn't
exist when I started doing it.
Like I have online businesses.
That there wasn't onlinebusinesses.
I was doing CrossFit, which Ididn't think was a thing, like
there wasn't money in it, thereweren't sponsors, like nothing
(04:18):
existed.
I grew in it.
But now people are like I wantto do what you do and I'm like
it might not exist, like I don'tknow, like do you just want it
because of money or what do youwant it for?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
so I, yeah that it's really interesting hearing you
talk about the look back.
I mean, that's something jakeand I talk about often of
something that we struggle withand have challenged ourselves
this year, of being more, youknow, intentional, of looking
back and understanding thesuccesses and how far we've come
, cause it's so easy Any of uswho are, you know, chasing
(04:52):
something in life, like we'reconstantly moving the bar, so,
like you, you never feel likeyou've accomplished anything
because you never give yourselfthe opportunity to enjoy the
moment which I've explained onhere, like my wife's really good
at that and she's really goodat reminding me of, like look,
where we're at now.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, I think what's interesting too is comparison we
talked about, but that we don'tdo it in like the worst right,
like we look at people who aredoing better, but like, do you
ever look at people who you'relike that?
I'm glad that I didn't decidethat and then see and then ask
yourself how, how long would ittake them to get to where I am
(05:36):
and I and in along those linesit's the same thing as like
online, right?
Eventually you guys will getmessages like your podcast sucks
, like you sell, like an r&bsinger braxton, like what the
heck.
But here's the thing I used tocomment every negative comment
and it would make me feel likeall that it was was negative.
And one day years ago when Istarted getting a lot of people
(05:59):
saying a lot of stuff, I allright, for every one negative
post you comment to, you have tocomment to 10 positives and
what I learned was there's somuch more positive stuff out
there than there is negative.
And then you start looking andyou're like who's saying it?
You're like I'm so glad that'snot me Like, and that's where so
(06:21):
for me.
Compare, I do not, and that'swhere so for me.
I do not.
I compare in the normal stuff,but I love my life and it wasn't
easy.
I don't think it was meant tobe.
I wouldn't love it if it wasn't.
And yeah, I look back a lot inthe direction of how far I've
(06:45):
come, but also in like where Icould have been, yeah Not, why
am I not somewhere else?
It's like I'm right where Ineed to be, based on everything
I've ever done.
That's why we're all sittinghere.
Yeah.
If I want to be somewhere else,do something different.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, so let's, let's talk about this life.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I know that you know you and Jake are.
You're sharing theentrepreneurial.
You know spirit and mind and Iknow Jake's got.
You know some takes on on thatside of you.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah for sure.
Before, though, cause you talkabout him squatting 500.
I feel like a lot of peopleplay a mental game with
themselves, like they overthinka lot, and I feel like that puts
like a lot of toll on anythingthat you do, like lifting
weights or anything like that,cause, like you said, it's
already in you, but it's alsobeing confident and believing
(07:35):
that you can do it, but I feellike people just overthink way
too much.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well, and that's that's where like everything to
me is like simplicity.
So example in weights is a great.
It to me is like simplicity.
So, example in weights how is agreat?
It's an easy way to do.
This is like, let's say, youare somebody who's stuck
somewhere at some weight.
My guess is you warm up withthe exact same weights to get to
the exact same place.
Every single time.
You have the exact same problem.
(08:00):
My strategy would be the nexttime add five pounds to every
single thing that you do on yourway to that weight.
Okay, cool, like, yeah, but Istill failed the end.
Yeah, but you lifted so muchmore weight over that time
period.
And then the next time do itagain.
And if it's like well, I don'tlike to start that heavy, cool,
(08:20):
add an extra set, but always beprogressing somewhere, whether
it's a rep, a weight, an amount.
It's not all about weight, it'snot.
But ultimately, like, if you dothat enough times and you add
enough sets in the beginning, oryou take them away and you add
enough weight, eventually you'reactually going to have that end
weight be your middle weight.
If that's your goal, yeah.
And that's where I think a lotof times, we, we, we think if we
(08:42):
just keep trying, we keeptrying, we keep trying, we keep
trying, it's like adjust, make asmall tweak and because, how I
look at, it is not the end.
Okay, you still kept failing,that it's like, but we are
progressively increasing ouroverall work capacity during
that time.
So that is a win, and I'malways looking for a win.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
There you go, okay, you being an entrepreneur owning
a business and your personalbrand.
Obviously I just started myapparel brand.
It's been two years since Istarted.
I always get, you know, I'vealways had people say, oh, you
don't have a big following, ohit's not going to take off.
And then I hear like all thesebig, big you know big names
(09:26):
saying don't start an apparelbrand.
If you don't have a bigfollowing, don't start an
apparel brand.
Always hear it and I'm like youknow what?
I block all that out.
I don't, I don't hear it.
I'm still going to put mypassion into it and, you know,
pushing the the be bettermindset out to people.
Um, what's been the hardestpart of growing your personal
brand?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
oh, the hardest part of growing my personal brand.
Well, I would say that Istarted not knowing I was
growing a brand.
Um, a lot of times, you know,I'll talk about different things
and with people as far as like,what do you do, how do I do
this, how do I do that?
Um, honestly, I didn't even tryto make money online when I had
(10:12):
a decent following for fouryears.
So I think, for me, whenthinking about like a brand,
it's like now looking, what I'mlooking at now is like,
essentially, I'm creating anavatar.
Right, who is this person thatI'm speaking to?
And I think for most people,you don't need a big audience,
(10:34):
but if you don't have a bigaudience, you need like a
passionate follower, like like aperson who's like an
evangelical, like this is thismatters.
And here's why, um, if and if Iwas thinking about a business
now, I'd be like okay, how can Ithen take that and make them,
(10:56):
make, help them, use theirplatform to help the cause?
And that's what I would befocused on is like taking them
and building this like cult,like following, to be able to do
that.
And for me, I would think moneylast and speaking to the that
(11:18):
group and not a, and it would bemore about like why are we
doing this?
Not like, oh, this is a, thisis great clothing, this is great
.
But it's like why are we doingthis?
Not like, oh, this is this isgreat clothing, this is great.
But it's like why are we better?
How, what, what do we stand for?
Why do we stand for this?
And I would be like missiondriven.
And then it's like if this ishow you feel, this is what we
(11:42):
wear.
So it would be very much a likedaily, just speaking to that,
and then randomly just likecause, I think the best brands
it's it's not, it's not, you'renot a brand until you're a brand
or you're just you're, you're acompany, and it's like well,
(12:03):
let's build something.
And I think online it's likeyou build a community.
And that's where, for me, I hada community of people who
looked at me as holy crap, thisis like the strongest guy in the
sport.
He's.
I was like people like you'relike six, three, two thirty.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I'm like no, I'm not camera, add some weight and that
braxton's height.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
People would see me in person and be like nick's
actually for those of youwatching standing right now yeah
, oh wow, there's a hole it's atrampoline.
Oh, that's great yeah no, Imean, I think you look at.
You know at least the way Ilook at things.
You know I don't necessarilybuy when it comes to apparel or
(12:49):
other things, necessarilybecause of the apparel itself.
It's because of the company andthe values and what they stand
for and who they are.
That's what attracts me and I'mlike.
I want to support that.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
That's what draws me to it.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And I think honestly, some of the biggest companies
do not have big followings.
They have big budgets.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yes, 100.
Honestly, some of the biggestcompanies do not have big
followings they have big budgetsyes, 100.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So there's, there's that, there's that game.
It's kind of like for me.
I think a hard thing for meright now is mine was very
organic in the sense of.
You know, I grew a following andit was kind of like they wanted
stuff, so I just gave them whatthey wanted and grew stuff
through it to the point of, like, I've done very little
advertising, um, marketing.
It's just been, uh, fortunatelyorganic.
(13:33):
But I know that I could scale.
I know that I could do a lotmore and I think for me, that's
not where I feel like I'm calledright now, um, and that, I
think, is the the tough part,right, like, if you're like, no,
I want to grow.
Like, what are the goals of thebe better brand?
Right, what compared to like,what are the goals for me over
(13:55):
here?
And I would say that there are.
They're different difference Ihave is I have a bigger platform
.
I wouldn't say that it's abigger brand.
I mean, probably, yes, it is,essentially, but probably not to
scale.
And, yeah, the, to me, I thinkit's one of the coolest things
to be able to try to takesomething, especially that
nobody thinks that you can do.
(14:15):
And here's the thing If itdoesn't work, it did work.
Like, I don't think thatthere's such thing as a failure.
I mean, we obviously fail allthe time, but it's just learning
, right, like, I think thecoolest thing about
entrepreneurship and like cause,I had an apparel company and I
still kind of do.
I don't push anything on it,it's just Zeus method.
(14:37):
People are like I want to beZeus athlete.
Yeah.
And things change.
Like example for me.
Or let's say, you're out thereand you do have like a small
company and you're doing allthese things, but then people
keep saying a similar theme oflike, well, why don't you do
this, why don't you do this?
(14:57):
And these are the people whoyou're like they own the stuff I
have, they care about what I'mdoing.
Maybe I should do that and you,they care about what I'm doing,
maybe I should do that.
And your business evolves.
I think so many entrepreneursget stuck in this one lane of
like.
But this is who we are, this iswhat we're doing.
And that's where, if you'relike mission driven and you're
talking about like, what is itthat we stand for?
(15:18):
Eventually it might be acommunity that gets built, and
then that community is builtaround this concept that
ultimately has apparel that thenpeople latch onto through
secondary outlets of peoplewalking around wearing this.
So for me, I'm like a lot oftimes there's this where's the
pivots?
And it's when you hit thepivots, what do you do?
And I think in apparel there'sa lot of pivots you can take,
(15:42):
whether it's adding, taking away, or saying hey, hey, we're
gonna add this thing over hereand see what happens.
Um, if you talk to a lot ofentrepreneurs, they'll say you
know big ones that have blown upor like, really have grown big
things.
They're like you know anybodywho's made a lot of money?
It's one thing right.
They say seven streams ofincome.
(16:03):
You know a lot of people like,oh, it'd be a millionaire, seven
streams of income.
But really it's that one mainone.
Yeah, but inside that one mainone, a lot of times there's a
lot of things, yeah, and I thinkthat that's where people can
get skewed.
It's because they're like well,that business is where you made
all the money.
It's like, yeah, doing 15things, yep, exactly, but one of
those 15 things hit.
(16:24):
And that's the part I think.
A lot of times people aren'tpatient enough to walk through
the process of the pain.
And it's the same thing as thelift, it's the same thing as
right, it's one inch.
It's like you don't know howfar you are away from striking
gold and you may never, but youalso might.
(16:46):
And to me, if you always havethat hope and that drive, go,
chase it.
In the US, we are not going togo hungry and go without a place
to be, and I think that we'reall in probably a good place
that we don't have to worryabout that.
Yeah.
(17:11):
So if that's the case, whywouldn't you be fine failing
every single day after the thingthat you want?
And that's why, like people canlook, like you can see, like,
oh, nick, had all thesesuccesses.
Like in the beginning, I, Idon't think I was a success, I
just think I didn't quit and Igot mediocre results.
And if I yeah, if I had to doit again, I'd do it way better,
but I wouldn't go back and do itagain, I wouldn't change the
thing.
Like the struggles that I hadto go through, the sacrifices,
(17:33):
like the failures.
Again, I learned so much andthen I didn't quit.
I just I was done.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's made you who you are today too, the person you
are but sticking it's made youwho you are today to the person
you are but sticking with thebusiness part here, this one
obviously.
I'm obviously going to takenotes from you too.
What advice would you give tosomeone thinking about starting
their own business in thefitness world?
We'll just say, just in thefitness world starting your own
business in the fitness world?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, there's.
I would say this in anybusiness business, there's two
things you need, um, you need acustomer and something to sell
them, and I think that that'swhere you start.
I think too many people want awebsite and you know I need to
have the right this and that,and I need to build the thing.
(18:22):
And I think, if you talk withany any entrepreneur that
started and is where somebodyelse wants to be, maybe it's in
a newer area, like, like example, for me, online.
When I started, I had peoplepay me through paypal or they'd
send me a check once a month andI would send them a numbers,
(18:45):
spreadsheet of stuff or just anemail.
There was nothing fancy and Igot paid hundreds of dollars per
person and I'd be like thisisn't fair like ah, nobody,
there was no ebooks you made andyou already like
had this perfect document.
I'm gonna spend so much moneyon developing these things.
Who, who wants what you have?
(19:05):
And then some people are like,well, I don't have anything.
Well, then, find the thing theywant and see if they want it.
And if it's not good, change itand see if they want it.
So, for me, what is it that youwant to sell?
Not, what do you think you cansell?
Some people are like, oh, Icould do this.
And if you are passionate aboutfitness, the number one thing
that I would do right now if Iwas starting something brand new
(19:27):
, is I would go online.
I would ask every single personI know and I'd be like I want
to help you for free and I wantto help you what is your goal?
And I want to get you to thatgoal.
And I'm not going to say I wanta testimonial.
I want you to do these thingsfor me.
I want to help you until youreach that goal, but along the
(19:48):
way, I want your feedback andI'm going to create things and
I'm going to find out like,shoot, they didn't like it.
That wasn't fun.
I'm going to talk to thesepeople and I'm just going to
give as much as I possibly can,away for as long as I have to,
and I'm going to find out whatis it and I'm going to talk to
those people and then I'm goingto figure out how can I ask that
person to ask somebody else.
And I'm going to do that aslong as I have to and then
eventually, I'm going to findout what is it that I can make
(20:11):
or create, and then I'm going toask people if it's really good.
And here's the thing If it isreally good, I can run ads.
And that's what I would end updoing is I would say okay, this
is good.
And what I would say is thishow much would you pay for it?
And I would start having somepeople charge me.
And if I made 300 bucks, I'mlike all right, I'm running $300
ads and I'm going to learn thisads thing.
(20:31):
I'm now going to go online, I'mgoing to go to YouTube, I'm
going to go to YouTubeuniversity and I'm going to
watch every single thing I canabout how to run Facebook ads.
Or I might even createsomething and put on TikTok shop
because it's free.
You can do so many things rightnow, but the problem is
everyone's like yeah, that's theproblem.
No, what are you going to sellto who Once you have that you?
(20:55):
Have a business.
Once you take some money, it'snot more complicated than that.
You can then get an app forfree and have them.
Just you just pay a fee.
You can sign up for Stripe andsend out invoices and create
membership stuff, subscriptions,and have people pay you every
month to just send an email.
Hey, I'm going to do a $10 amonth thing, subscription-based.
(21:18):
Here's my link.
Has what it is?
Boom, all you pay is 2.9%.
There's no fees, there's nowebsite.
You then can go on and create afree website and add free stuff
.
You can go to fiverr and havesomebody, for 50 bucks somewhere
in the world, create an amazingfunnel and boom, you can create
an email list and just starttalking to them all the time.
(21:40):
Like, there are so many thingsthat you can do, but the number
one what are you going to sellto who?
And then, after that, theworld's your oyster.
I could tell you 50 milliondifferent ways that you can go
down the rabbit hole, and it'sfun.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
That's the thing.
There's so much stuff on socialmedia and like on the internet
that it's free, that you cantake advantage and use.
It's so awesome.
Yeah, it's the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
There's so much stuff on social media and on the
internet that's free, that youcan take advantage and use.
It's so awesome.
Yeah, it's so awesome.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, it's just people taking the action to do
it.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Well, that's what I mean.
I think some people will say so.
The hardest part, I think,about a business like a fitness
and kind of most businesses.
You open up a gym way different, up a gym way different, and
the reason why is because I cango and be like, oh, I have this
thing I just made.
I made a pdf and I'm gonna tryto sell it.
(22:32):
Oh, nobody bought it and Itrash it.
I open a gym and nobody comesin the doors.
Tomorrow I'm opening the gymagain and I'm trying to get
people in the doors, and thenext day I'm opening the gym
again and I'm going to throw allmy money I can because I put
too much money into this to walkaway from it.
And I think too many peopledon't have skin in the game and
they act like they do becausethey tried, yeah, that that
doesn't cut it.
So for me it's like how can I?
(22:54):
When people ask, how do youstart, I'm like, well, you put
your toe in the water and youfall in and you and you start
drowning and you figure out howto.
It's like burning the boatsright, you have to be able to
find a way to shut off the.
I'm stopping.
But you can't just say like I'mgoing to quit everything, I'm
going to go all in.
If it doesn't work, I'm goingback.
It's like, no, don't quitanything, add this, and if you
(23:17):
don't like it, then youshouldn't be doing it.
It has nothing to do withquitting.
You shouldn't be doing thisLike it's like when I starting
anything, there's no, there's noquit, because I there's no end.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Like you're right, it's true, you know, I just I'd
like I said a lot of people.
Just you've heard, I mean youhear there I forget the
percentage, but there's only acertain percentage of people
that have the right mindset tobe an entrepreneur, because a
lot of them can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
you know, I think so it's kind of like when you talk
about like adhd, they're like,oh, you know, if adhd, I'm like
yeah, but I can find somethingthey can focus on.
Yep, we all know things thatpeople can focus on, and I think
that it's not that people can'tbe entrepreneurs, it's that
people don't don't want to sitin the.
(24:14):
Everyone sees that I'm notmaking this the way that they
know.
I want to and I have to do itin front of them.
And people have to know andmost people fail because they
don't ever let anybody see thatthey're trying.
And it's the cyclical thing.
If you put forth very littleaction and get very little
(24:36):
results, you lose confidence.
Therefore, you start to feellike a failure.
So the next time you try, youtry less, see less results.
Where, if we can reverse it, itand we can basically make it to
where?
Like what if you stopped caring?
And I think that that is awhole podcast in and of itself,
because we all care.
(24:56):
And the thing, the reverse sideof it is saying, like, well,
all these people are looking atme like, oh, you're a failure.
The reverse side of it is butthose people, if you make it,
are going to be like, well, yeah, but you were lucky, how?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
you know that statement.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
And then you're going to have some people that say,
well, how'd you do it?
And you're going to look atthem and be like what do you
mean?
The whole time I was doing it,you were telling me I shouldn't.
That's how I did it.
I didn't listen to you.
And because they I think a hardpart for me when it comes to
business, when it comes to mostthings, is that go on social
(25:34):
media.
All that social media does, likeTikTok and all these, is
they're showing you a way to dosomething that fits the life you
already have, that gives youthe result that you want, that
that you haven't got.
But you don't have to changeanything now to get it, because
all you have to do is whatyou've been doing, because
somebody just said it works.
So then you're like wait aminute, okay, and then three
(25:57):
months later you're like wait,it didn't work.
And it's like, yeah, and itdidn't work the last time.
But all of you are searchingfor how to get the results you
want, living the life you live.
And I fall to this point allthe time and I say why can't you
just learn to love where youare?
Because if you're not willingto change, you're not going
(26:19):
anywhere else.
That's what I see social mediaas is.
It's a place for you to try tofind what it is you're looking
for wrapped in the box youalready have.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It is.
But there are people out therewho don't do that, but far and
few between.
And people will say, dude, Ilove that you don't sound like
everybody else.
It's like, well, I don't listento everybody else.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's the thing you can't.
You need to stay in your laneand focus on you, man.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
There's nobody that's above you that will ever
criticize you and put you down.
And those are the people thatyou need to go to and ask, and
that's where you need to seek,because those people are going
to be like, hey, is this reallywhat you want?
This is going.
What you want?
Like this is gonna be hard,like this is not gonna be easy.
(27:12):
Like building a building,apparently it's not gonna be
easy.
It might take you 20 years.
You cool with that and it mighttake you 20 years and it might
not still cool with that.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, all right, go, that's how it's gonna be, man,
it's, it's how it is.
It's not.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's not an overnight success, you know, but what,
and that's what's what's success, I know you know, we, we said
that on the last episode,literally man, like many people,
could look at my life and belike that's it.
I'd be like yeah.
I made it Like now.
Does that mean it's over?
No, does that mean that, like Imade it and it's like I'm done,
or like no, but like, right nowI'm good and there's more.
(27:45):
What's next?
I'm good and there's more.
What's next?
Yeah, there's more, and thewhat next might be less.
It doesn't have to be like.
I think most people it's likeoh, it's a, it's a financial
thing or it's a this, and it'slike.
All those things are alwaysgoing to play a role, but the
smaller you make it matter, mostlikely the bigger it's going to
end up being anyway.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, I mean there's.
There's two quotes I think ofwith the comment you just made,
it's are you willing to sprintwhen the distance is unknown?
And I think there's a lot ofpeople who it's like if I don't
know where the finish line is,I'm going to pace myself and
that's just the way that wecan't go hear a lot too.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
They're like well, remember, a marathon is like
it's slow, so go slow, and it'slike I think entrepreneurship is
just you sprint and you rest,and you sprint, and you rest,
and you sprint and you rest, andyou sprint and you rest and you
sprint and you rest and justkeep doing that.
There's no.
The only time you stop and youslow down is when you get
somebody else to sprint for you.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
And now you got a business Like there's no.
The only time you stop and youslow down is when you get
somebody else to sprint for you,and now you got a business.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's amazing.
So let's talk.
Let's talk in today's terms.
What does a day in the lifelook like for Nick?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
This is hard for me because my I don't know how to
look back and explain to peoplewhat my life looked like.
Obviously, I did that a littlebit here, but in a regular basis
I don't.
So most people just hear mewhere I'm like.
So my days, um, so there's,there's my days right now with
my wife.
So, um, my, me and my wifenever worked out together
because I was always trainingand competing and she was like
(29:30):
you're way too intense, likethis is too crazy.
And when we sold the gyms, Iwasn't ever training in the gyms
, I was training by myself, butnot like in classes.
And my wife would kind of belike hey, you should come in,
it'd be really good, you shouldcome in.
So I would go in.
And it's just hard to go into abusiness that you've sold, and
(29:51):
for multiple reasons, and we'llleave it at that and I just
would train at home.
Well, now my wife has been likeI want to work out with you.
So my day now looks like this Iwake up at about five o'clock
in the morning.
Now, now, granted, I'm in bedby like 8.39, so I'm getting my
eight hours.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
We better hurry up and wrap this up, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I wake up at 5.
My wife would wake up at 4 andwalk for an hour and do her like
standing vibrating,thingy-ma-jigger whatever do her
red light therapy in her faceand I wake up at 5, and I drink
a bunch of water and I make acup of coffee and I sit down and
I sip my coffee for like 20minutes and then at 5.30, she
(30:38):
comes up.
Sometimes maybe 10 minutesbefore that we get in the car
and we go to the gym and we workout for like she'll time it
every day.
It's like 54 minutes or 56minutes and we're back at home
by 6, 45, 7.
My oldest one leaves for schoola little bit before 8.
My wife normally takes her toschool.
(30:59):
My youngest one is waking up atthis point and I kind of joke
around with her and I'm the likepoking guy and they're like dad
, stop, it's early.
And I'm like, smile, I'm pokingthem and then I take my
youngest to school.
That's an eight 50.
She gets dropped off and thenI'm thinking what am I doing
with my day at that point?
And I normally look at my daysat like as like two hour blocks.
(31:21):
So I've got that five to sevenwith my wife, I've got seven to
nine kids stuff, and thennormally I start at 10.
So that nine to 10 is like Inormally will have the dog with
me in the car.
So I might think like, oh, I'mgonna go to a coffee shop, or
I'm gonna go someplace and I'llcome home and I'll take him out
of the car, and I might be likeyou know what, I'm not going to
go to the coffee shop, I'm justgonna go to the basement.
(31:42):
I'll grab my computer.
I normally will look ataccounts, like I pretty much
look at most of our accountsjust in the morning.
It's just like a habit I've had.
I'll go onto the business andsee like okay, who signed up,
you know?
And then on Mondays and onThursdays or Fridays I send out
emails.
So I'll either have wrote anemail Sunday night or I'll sit
(32:06):
down and I'll write an email tosend out to my subscriber list
and then I'll look at programsthat maybe need some tweaking or
different stuff.
As far as, like on Zeus method,which is my company for
programming online, that if Ineed to add anything into it
I'll do that.
I'll go to a coffee shop, have acoffee, sit open my computer,
play a little on, like YouTube,like read, read stuff.
I'll put a book in my ears,listen to something.
(32:28):
Normally at this point it'slike noon and I'm wondering now
what am I going to do?
And I'll like now I'll go home,I'll throw with the dog, listen
to more of a book or a podcast.
I've got till 3, 30 to 3, 45 topick up my daughter, so I might
get bored.
I'll make some content.
So I'll make some videos.
(32:49):
Um yeah, and at this point it'slike I start to kind of get
bored.
I think people underestimatethat Because my business is
pretty self-sufficient and it'ssubscription-based for the most
part.
So I'll talk to people onlineand people message and I
(33:10):
normally post online at between8 and 8.30 in the morning, if
not earlier, and I don't postanymore.
I literally post.
So I don't go on social media,I don't it's I.
I personally don't enjoy socialmedia as a consumption tool.
I I always tell my kids I, youcan either be a consumer or
(33:30):
creator and I'd rather create,and hopefully I'm creating some
value.
So I'll pick up my youngest andand a lot of times too, my wife
will come home and me and mywife I have like an hour
conversation inside that window.
I'll pick up my daughter comehome and I'll be like you got
homework, sit down with her, dosome stuff, maybe play with her,
do something, go on a walk.
(33:52):
And it gets to a point whereit's like six and it's like
dinner and then I basically hangout with my wife and my kids
and that's kind of like what it.
I made that really long forlike not a whole lot, but that's
most days it's pretty um so forme right now.
I was creating a lot of stuffbefore that, meaning I would
(34:13):
take a lot of time and try tobuild something new, and I
realized a lot of it was justbusy work.
So I'm taking this season rightnow to really find out, like,
where do I really want to makean impact and kind of slow down
and take the time that I've I'mprivileged to have.
And it's really hard for me tobe able to say stuff like that,
because it sounds like, dude, doyou do anything?
(34:34):
And it's like I do a lot, butit's just my life, it's part of
it, like I don't look atanything, nothing, I, I, I don't
know.
It's just so hard like to say,like, what do you do for the
business?
A lot of stuff, but it's justlike I just do it, like it's
just part of my day yeah, it'slike your routine, yeah but it's
, and it doesn't take long andit's fun and I enjoy it.
(34:55):
And my wife will always be likewhat are you doing?
I'm like I just love this, likeI get to do this.
This is so cool.
Like I'll sit down sometimesand just create programs.
Some days I might just sitthere and just do that for a
while.
Other days I might just be likeI'm gonna go to a park and walk
for hours and just learnsomething in my ears.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So I want to tell you guys a couple stories here
about Nick.
And so there's a lot of thingsthat I admire about Nick, and
since him and I have becomefriends.
He laughs, but he knows howmuch value he's brought to my
life, and you know.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Is this some?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
of the value.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
This is.
It is that's brought to my lifeand um.
You know the value this is.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It is Um so Nick and I are at dinner a couple of
weeks ago, yeah, and um, youknow, we're we're talking
through some things and we'retrying to figure out, hey, we
should get another uh couplesdate night on the calendar
calendar, and so I pull up mycalendar and Nick pulls up his
(36:00):
and mine is just he's a crazyguy and Nick pulls up his and I
think he had like the nextmorning he was having coffee
with someone and then therewasn't another thing on his
calendar until like two weekslater and I'm like like my mind
(36:22):
is just absolutely blown.
But what I love about that,where I'm getting to, is Nick
and I have had a lot ofconversations about like how
different of a place of lifethat we are when it comes to
like career and schedule and how, like I am trying to do
everything I can to remove somethings from my calendar to open
(36:44):
up freedom, to focus on thingsthat add value, whereas nick has
created that freedom in hisschedule, um, but he's looking
for opportunities of where hecan add things that create value
, and so that's been a reallycool thing, just to you know,
for him and I to go back andforth and talk about perspective
(37:05):
and you know just schedulingand life, and you know we talk
about balance on here and whatthat looks like.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And that was the first time I'd ever heard
anybody say that.
When you said that to me, likeI never thought about it, like
that I'm trying to add, and somany more people are literally
just trying to get things outand take things away yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
The second thing that I admire about Nick is that the
dude can find joy in anything,and the the one of my favorite
stories that his wife Chelseatells is you know, a few weeks
back we got all this snow.
We get all this snow.
I can't believe she said this.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Did she say this to you?
Speaker 3 (37:51):
No, she told me to my face Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I don't know if she sent you video.
She took videos of this.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Chelsea and the girls are in the house and they're
doing something maybe makingdinner and she peeks outside and
Nick's outside by himselfbuilding a snowman, and I'm like
that would never even cross mymind.
I mean, maybe if Copeland orAviana asked yeah asked me hey,
dad, like let's go outside makea snowman, but like to just like
(38:19):
, hey, I'm gonna take the timeto enjoy the snow we got and
build a snowman, I'm like wedidn't get this much this year,
so he had to.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I just put my dude, I put my foot in it and I was
like that's packing snow nomoney, that was it that was that
was it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
So it's just, it's amazing to see the life that
you've built and how you justyou cherish a lot of the little
things a lot of us take forgranted Just because we loaded
our calendars and we're so busythat we miss those moments.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I appreciate that I mean I, yeah, I mean that's it
is.
I do take a lot of that stufffor granted.
An example is like I think mykids struggle with doing
anything alone because I'malways up for it.
Example like we were driving.
I take my daughter home it wasa Sunday night from soccer
(39:11):
practice and we do carpool and Icarpool for soccer and my
daughter she they always ask forstuff, ice cream or anything.
My daughter's like, hey, dad, Iknow you're going to say no to
like ice cream or anything, butcan we go to the park?
And you chase us.
(39:32):
And I was like, yes, and I letthem out.
And they're like, give us 10seconds.
So I videoed them run, likerunning away from me and we
played tag for a half hourbefore the girl had to go home.
And it's that stuff where, like,my kids will go to places and
every single kid ends up playingwith us and my kids.
(39:57):
When we leave, they're like dad,everybody loves you, like all
these kids.
And I was like, yeah, but it'swhen you invite people in, every
single kid wants to be playingthat game and that's that's the
part where, like, I I put a lotof, I beat myself up a lot
(40:18):
because I don't feel like I doenough.
And then I think I I look and Ilike admire the fact that I'm
like dude, but where you are inyour company and what you're
doing and what you're buildingfor your family and all these
like that's awesome, that'samazing.
All these like that's awesome,that's amazing.
And it's the flip of like wait,it's kind of amazing that I get
(40:39):
to do what I get to do too, solike there's that it goes every
way.
Everybody takes for grantedwhat they have, like what they
have, what they don't have, whatsomebody else does, what they
don't do, what they.
And my biggest thing is that'swhy I, I live by like happiness
trumps everything, find joy inanything, experiences matter so
(41:00):
much and I'm kind of like alwaysup and my mom or my wife always
say she's like Nick is alwaysup for anything.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, I mean, I think so many of us listening to this
right now.
You know you look back, maybejust within this week, like how
many times did the kids ask you,hey, let's go outside and and
play?
Or you could have very easily,like your kid, your daughter's
eyes hey, can we go play tag?
And you're like well, it's beena long day and I'm exhausted
and I we need to get home so Ican eat dinner.
I need to get back.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
You know on the computer like we miss yeah those
moments well, everybody's heardthis, i'm'm guessing, and if
you haven't, here you go.
You know there's when I had ourkids or the kids were young.
I used to always say to my wifeand I still say it, but I said
it a lot it's like I pick themup and I'd be like there's going
to be a last time I do this,give them a kiss.
(41:51):
I'm like there's going to be alast time I do this and I do
everything.
And she'd be like all right,nick, I get it.
I'm like no, no, but but Iwon't know the last time.
And example I just had saidthis.
So we were having a familymeeting, we're all talking, and
I brought up, uh, my wife said,hey, I want to start.
So I basically put the kids tobed, like I'll like give my
(42:13):
youngest one a kiss.
If I'm in the other room withmy oldest one and we're laughing
and stuff, she'll be like hey,why?
Why didn't you laugh with me?
Yeah, so my I basically and Iwas like tearing up telling this
to them is I was like do youknow, jada, when you turned 13,
(42:34):
I went to give you a kiss andyou turned your cheek.
And when you turned 13, I wentto give you a kiss and you
turned your cheek.
And when you were 14, she's 15now when you were 14, you
accidentally kissed me.
That was the last one.
Like, people don't get toremember that, but I remember
the time that it could have beenthe last.
(42:54):
And then I remember the one youaccidentally did and I wanted
to tell her you accidentallykissed me because I think she
knew it.
But it's that stuff like I toldthat story to my mom, like
there's a last time.
You, I'll pick them up, and mymom looked at me and she was
like I want to pick you up rightnow and she did and it just
like brought a smile to her face.
(43:15):
And I think a lot of times weoverestimate how much value is
in these.
What we consider small, mundane, non, there's no value in it.
There's so much.
Every, every hard thing you'veever gone through or in a person
that was with you.
You remember way more than youdo the best things and, and I
(43:37):
think, the people that are withyou the most now are the ones
you need to celebrate theselittle, tiny things I mean just
joking, like I'll grab yourchest, grab your shoulder, like
make you smile.
Like to me I'm like when you seesomebody smile, that that's,
that's a gift.
So I love everything prettymuch.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Jake, yo Want to run Nick through a rapid fire.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
Do you like all of them?
Yeah, man.
All right.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I wrote down some stuff, I think.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Uh-oh, you ready.
Set the timer.
Let's do it do it okay, rapidfire, coming at you I have to
answer rapidly.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
No, no, no, these are just real quick real quick
answers and I mean, I'm thefirst one to do this right.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
You don't have to explain them in detail.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
If you don't want to, okay, no, no, go to pre-workout
meal.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Dude coffee, but, like I said, grabbing my
espresso specifically, oh yeah,and just sitting down and not
feeling rushed, I don't need anyfood.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Nope.
No, me All right.
One book that changed yourperspective.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Rich Dad, poor Dad, big Time and then kind of all
his stuff like Cashflow Quadrantblew my mind and then I
actually wrote.
So books are like my thing.
I even wrote down a couple.
There's a book called theAlmanac of Naval Ravikant.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
I've heard of that one Awesome.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Be Obsessed of them.
Awesome, um, be obsessed or beaverage.
I probably listened to thatlike 15 times.
I don't know if you guys haveheard that.
Grant Cardone, yep.
Um, so I'll go with that.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Toughest workout you've ever done.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
This is really hard, um, because there's there's two,
and they both happen to be okaythree.
Two of them were at theCrossFit Games, so it's really
hard to compare.
So if I tell you what theworkout is, people are always
like, oh, I've done that before,that wasn't that bad.
Oh my gosh.
And I'm like I can't even tellyou I couldn't.
(45:52):
I okay.
So the workout was it was Murphat the CrossFit Games and it
was event like I don't know whatnumber event it was.
It was up there and it was atnoon or one o'clock in LA Sun
was over us, it was like 130degrees on the floor and I I
didn't do Murph.
(46:12):
I did Murph plus like a ton ofreps Cause I got no reps, so
much on pushups.
I don't do Murph.
I did Murph plus like a ton ofreps because I got no reps, so
much on pushups.
I don't know how many pushups Idid and I basically why it was
so bad was the workout finishedand you weren't allowed to leave
the floor, like there was noshade, no nothing.
You weren't allowed to go offthe floor.
People were hiding under tables.
It was really bad.
(46:40):
And I got out of the stadium andthere was a tunnel and I sat
down in the tunnel and there wasa bunch of people by me and I
had water bottles.
I think I was drinkingsomething and then all of a
sudden I see a girl coming by mecrying.
There's a girl on a stretcher,somebody's being carried away,
and I realized it's been an hourand I looked down and I have 10
bottles empty that I must havebeen drinking.
I had to move.
Nobody was by me anymore.
The women had already gone,which meant I was going in like
(47:01):
a half an hour to compete againand I just blacked out.
Got up and people are yelling myname to go and do the next
event.
So I ran out to the next eventnot even knowing what was going
on and I bombed it.
But that workout was horrible.
Another one that wasn't at thecrossfit games was I did a
(47:23):
workout that I'd saw that was atthe crossfit games before.
I was good and I somehow got inmy car, drove home and woke up
laying on my porch.
I don't remember hours.
I didn't want to say the word.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
It was like three workouts all like back to back
to back.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
Yeah, yeah, so beat that yeah Right Best piece of
advice you've ever received.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
Oh my gosh, that is, is there really a best piece of
advice?
Or is it a best piece of advicein the best, in like the
perfect situation?
Because I think I've.
I don't think I took advicevery well for a very long time
and, and I would probably say,the best piece of advice I've
(48:21):
ever received is like this one.
I didn't even really know howto even think about it because
essentially, almost like you'regood enough and in the context
(48:46):
of it was basically like there'sno success, the top, all that
stuff is, it truly doesn't, itwon't matter and, like you, are
already plenty yeah and actuallylike believing that.
(49:07):
So I think I think sometimes youhear things that you're like
we've all heard that and it'slike now.
But sometimes, like you hear itand it and it actually hits.
So I think sometimes the theweirdest things just hit right.
So like you're enough and Ibelieve that I'm not perfect,
I'm not even close.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Yeah last one, one thing most people get wrong
about fitness it's so simple.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, it's so simple, we just complicate it, yeah
like sure do like everything Icould.
Literally we could all nevertouch a piece of equipment and
give us a flat ground andprobably in five years I we
(49:57):
could all be looking the samelike I like breaking things down
like this.
All that lifting weights is isyou're just fighting against
gravity and making it harder towork against it.
So if you don't have the weight, just do more of making it
harder to fight against gravity.
(50:19):
That's literally all thatlifting weights is like.
When people like try to makeall these complicated things
like dude, no, you're justfighting, trying to jump really
high, you're just seeing howhard you can push and fight
against it before it pulls youback down.
Lifting weights is just pushingmore of you farther away from
(50:40):
the ground against gravity Likethat's it, because that that's
why I'm like when people arelike, oh, you have to do it, no,
you don't just get your bodystronger against pushing against
gravity in any way withanything, I don't matter.
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (50:58):
That was it, man.
Those are.
Those are the ones.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
So you and I you touched on this earlier in the
podcast and you and I've beenhaving a lot of conversation
about it lately, but you knowwhat?
What's next?
What's the future look like?
Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Um, I think that's hard,because I feel like I have this
gift of time that I don't wantto waste.
I'm 41.
I feel like I'm 20.
(51:31):
I think for me, it'sunderstanding that there's a lot
of opportunities and for me,most people don't feel like they
get a lot of them, but it'sbecause they haven't learned to
see them into how to like, grabone when it comes.
So for me, I think it's notrushing into what's next and
what what I say right now isnext, I'm probably going to be
(51:54):
way off.
So for me, it's saying that ifI want to have an impact and I
want to make a purpose, there'sgoing to be an opportunity to do
that, and I don't have to rushinto it, I don't have to force
it, and for me it's right now.
I think in the season of thislife it's getting around people
that are going to push me inways that I can't do myself,
(52:18):
that I've gotten to this point,essentially utilizing me to get
where I am, and now I'm here andit's like there's more and I
need help and I need to be ableto take that and use it.
(52:38):
And you know, braxton's somebodythat I look at as like, I feel
like a person that coulddefinitely push me in ways that
I that I need, um, and in waysthat I that I need, and in ways
that, like, I think, a lot oftimes, the best ways that
somebody can help you is,without even trying, like they
just they are who they are andthey inspire by that and
(53:00):
therefore, you're like, in orderfor me to stay in this, I need
to keep moving.
Otherwise, I'm going to be leftbehind and I'm going to be the
one looking at everybody aroundme saying why are you guys all
changing?
I'm going to be left behind andI'm going to be the one looking
at everybody around me sayingwhy are you guys all changing?
I want you to be who you were.
Instead, for me, it's like, ifI put myself in rooms of people
who aren't settling, then I'mnot allowed to either.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
When the day comes that Nick's no longer here?
What do you want your legacy tobe when the day comes that
Nick's no longer here?
Speaker 1 (53:28):
what do you want your legacy to be?
I want, I mean really I lookand I want my kids to be like my
dad loved us so much and,through us, shined on so many
(53:48):
people and impacted so manypeople in ways that he didn't
know he was, because he was justbeing him.
I don't want people to thinklike I was trying to be fake or
pretend, but I just want peoplewho ever got around me to be
like, fake or pretend, but Ijust want people who ever got
around me to be like there wassome, like there was something
(54:12):
else there.
There was some like I was drawnto that, Like I want to have an
energy Cause.
I think that we can all do thiswhere, like, anybody who leaves
a room that I was in feelsdifferent, and I think so many
times we're like, oh, my cupneeds filled and their cup needs
filled, and it's like this eventhing.
And I think so many times we'relike, oh, my cup needs filled
and their cup needs filled, andit's like this even thing and
it's like, no, we can all justoverflow each other.
(54:33):
That's what I want.
It's like people to leave andbe like I need to be that.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
That's good.
So with with the, the listenersright now that may be in a
position where they feel stuck.
We talked about being stuck inweights and stuck in progression
, but for someone who feelsstuck in life, what would your
advice be or next step that theycould take?
Speaker 1 (55:00):
You're not alone.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
We all do.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
But we all think we're alone and I think being
stuck is one of the hard, orfeeling like you are.
Because it's a hard, it's hardto reach out.
When you feel that way and Ithink for me it would be you're
not alone, don't quit, and thenumber one thing would just be,
(55:26):
take everything that's happeningas a way to learn, because if
you feel stuck, all you need todo is change what's happening.
Change something little littleby little, by little by little
by little.
Just make these slight changesand I think most people feel
stuck and stay stuck becausethey don't change and they'll
(55:48):
say they don't know how.
And what I would say is you doknow how, you just don't want to
do it.
I think we all just as fitnessis simple and every most things
in life are very simpler and weare very scared of if we just
try a little, we're gonna failand everyone's going to see it
(56:09):
and we would rather stay andfeel like well, but I haven't
tried.
My my daughter just said to meshe wasn't smiling in the car
today and I said we got to thepoint to where I was like if you
smile, I'll get you Starbucks,and she goes straight face.
No, you won't.
And I said and she goes straightface no, you won't.
(56:35):
And I said you would rathertake a zero percent chance of
getting it because you don'tthink you could than even having
a one percent percent shot ofgetting it.
With a smile I was like, wow,think about that.
She's like, well, that's my ego, it doesn't want to.
And I go, yeah, but like you'rewilling to take no, like
there's not a shot, you're noteven willing to take a chance.
(56:56):
That's how people are.
So then I said to her can Ihold your hand?
And she just busted outlaughing did she get her
starbucks?
Speaker 3 (57:07):
no, she didn't smile because, I said that's over you
Speaker 1 (57:09):
know, she said but you wouldn't have gotten.
I'm like, well, maybe not todayeventually, but but, but it's
that, but that's it right.
If somebody says to you like,hey, give me your hand, I want
to help you, and you're like, no, what?
Okay, what if they can't helpyou, cool, cool, they want to.
They'll walk with you, maybethey'll jump down there with you
(57:30):
for a while.
But most of the time we give upeverything for a 0% chance of
moving forward, because 1% isn'tenough.
So we take nothing.
That's the stuff right.
That's the stuff where I'm likeman.
The next time that you don'tthink there's a shot.
(57:50):
You don't think that there'sthe stuff, right.
That's the stuff where I'm likeman.
The next time that you don'tthink there's a shot, you don't
think that there's an option,you don't think that there's
anything.
Think about the choice you'reactually then making, because
most likely it's one that has a0% chance.
I'll always take 1%.
This has been really good.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
We got a couple more here.
You want to hit?
Oh wait more I thought that wasit.
That's it in in closing it's aclosing, oh god.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
So basically, I mean obviously yeah where can people
connect with you?
You know, follow your socialsand your journey.
Where um?
Speaker 1 (58:22):
instagram, nick your anchor, tiktok, nick dot your
anchor.
I think I don't know why nickyour anchor just didn't work.
After a while I'm going toprobably start doing some
YouTube stuff.
I just hired a videographerthat will be following me around
a lot more, so I'll be gettingsome more content, probably
doing my podcast again, maybe.
(58:42):
So maybe we'll have to do somecollab stuff.
And then Zeus Method is mycompany.
There's an app Zeus methodtraining on any app store.
Uh, you can also just shoot mea DM.
You can email me Nick at Zeusmethodcom.
Uh, I'll get back to you.
I love chatting.
If you want anything, I've gotfree workout programs.
(59:02):
You can try even just a bunchof workouts If you just want
them just to run through again.
Fitness is simple.
You don't need to have anythingcrazy, but as you develop,
you'll learn, you'll grow.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
so, yeah, there you have it, last one yeah, I mean
so before before I get this lastone in closing, I just
appreciate you being on.
Um, like I said, you've been anincredible friend, super
inspiring to a lot of people.
Uh, chelsea's incredible, yeah,oh, she makes me better.
(59:34):
So I mean, chelsea, what'sfunny is that the two of them
balance each other out.
You know, she, uh that's whatyou told me whereas, you know,
nick has has done a really goodjob of finding peace in where
he's at and the things he's beenable to accomplish, like
Chelsea's the go-getter.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
She is a dog.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yes, she is.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
She's awesome and so she is also a fun follow on
social very inspiring.
You watch what she does on aday-to-day, she'll make you feel
like you're like man.
I got to start moving.
What milestone did she hit?
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
How long, so many steps she's done she's walked
700-some days in a row of 10,000steps.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
So it's incredible.
It's like 700-something so it'sincredible.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
It's like 700 something.
Yeah, she, she.
When she starts something likeif she didn't walk one day 10
000 steps just on accident, sheprobably would just stop.
She's like oh, and she'd belike I need something else yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
so for the ladies out there that you know that want
to find a female, that's reallysetting the standard and doing
some really cool things, chelseais the most authentic person
that I've ever met and a littleplug if you're looking to sell a
house.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Yeah, real estate, both of you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, I got my license too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
We're giving Chelsea the spotlight, though.
Yeah, no, my wife is way betterthan me Go to my wife?
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, no, my wife is way better than me.
Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Go to my wife.
So last one before we exit.
What's one challenge you'd putout there for our listeners to?
Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
help them level up in their own lives.
I would say, when you wake uptomorrow, ask yourself what you
weren't proud of, what's onething you wish you would have
done different, and then saythat today you're going to do it
and do it as soon as you can.
And then tomorrow, when youwake up, say it again don't make
a 30 day or a 90 day goal.
(01:01:40):
Just if there is something thatyou want to make a change in,
most likely when you wake up,ask yourself what it was,
because you're very clear andjust do it.
Then Boom, every single day,one day at a time.
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
I dig it.
That's it.
That's it, man.
Appreciate you coming man.
Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Hey, thank you guys.
It's huge, it's awesome, it wasa good one.
Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
All right, everybody.
We appreciate you.
Share it out, tell your friends, we'll see you guys next time.
Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
DM Nick.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
DM Nick.
Yes, not weird stuff?
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Not yet, don't do that.
I get lots of weird stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I got a side story about that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Okay, that'll be on the next episode and we're out
of here you.
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