All Episodes

December 23, 2022 54 mins
What your Christian friends believe makes YOUR world. Chances are, you have NOT thought about this before. Consider... The United States is the most powerful nation on the planet. For most of you reading this, it's your home country. And Christians are an extremely large demographic group influencing culture and politics. Perhaps you never thought about that before. Maybe you think about it regularly, and it scares you. We sat down and talked with Dave Brisbin, a pastor with a unique yet relatable life journey, to discuss "Who is Jesus?" Why should you tune in to this episode? Being a Christian is mostly about how you view Jesus. That's practically the theme of the Gospel of John. However, to be blunt: American Jesus seems more trouble than good. Progressive Christians might think they agree with that statement. But be warned: before you get on the bandwagon and cheer, remaking Jesus in your image is also trouble. Everywhere - work, home, community, and society - the tyranny of laws and rules (backed by violence) is used to either keep an artificial peace or tackle a social problem. The overwhelming majority of Americans think they can reform these inherently authoritarian (and anti-human) structures. And both tribes claim Jesus is on their side. Gracearchy involves replacing that bureaucratic way of thinking with a peacemaking, relational approach. Indeed, as Dave Brisbin reveals in this interview: Grace is an anarchic idea. It's showered on everyone equally, and that means it doesn't reward merit or status. It's unjust and upends castes. The very notion of grace is scandalous. At present, even religious Christians tend to literally stand in the way of this anarchic idea. They must. Christians tend to want certainty, formulas, metrics, security, and rules. They want to know the score of their virtue rank. They need "western Jesus" to preserve their scheme. Part of the "good news" of Christmas is that Jesus is NOT the guy marketed by Western philosophy and religion. Jesus was born a Hebrew. He taught using Hebrew cultural methods and concerns of the Jews of his day. What are the human (anthropological) implications of that fact? And whether you believe in Jesus or not, if you want a peaceful, Zero Aggression society, you must recognize that the question of who Jesus was and what his life means is not just a Christmas story. It's an issue that matters to all of us. Dave Brisbin's take? Jesus might just be the revolutionary we need. Connect with Brisbin via Dave@theeffect.org or https://davebrisbin.com/ Gracearchy with Jim Babka is a show that transcends left-right conflict, offering respectful pathways forward instead. Bill Protzmann is your moderator. ZeroAggressionProject.org https://zeroaggressionproject.org/ is the sponsor. Be grace-full to each other.
Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.