A Course In Miracles Deep Dive, Chapter 2, Section XI, Paragraphs 19 to 21 | Superego, Magic, and Mercy | October 1, 2025 - Hope Johnson's Wisdom Dialogues

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So we're starting with paragraph19, set sentence one.
And this comes from a course inmiracles.
It's the complete annotatededition.

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It was published in 2021.
It has a purplish color.
So we've been discussing Freud'ssuperego and id theory.

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Now we're gonna go deeper.
If you didn't see last week's,you can always go to that to get
some more context.
But it's basically uh going tobe explained just going through
this text right now.
All right, so the first sentencewe're looking at, paragraph 19,
sentence one.

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Freud's superego is aparticularly interesting example
of the real power ofmiscreation.
So here's a fun sentence.
Freud's superhero or superego,superhero.
You can call it that too.
Freud's superego is aparticularly interesting
example.
Okay, the superego.

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So the superego in Freud'stheory is the harsh inner
critic.
Okay, it's the internalizedvoice of parents and society's
rules.
Like let's say you went toCatholic school or something,
whatever they're pounding in,that's your, according to
Freud's theory, the harsh innercritic.

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Jesus is saying it's it's a it'sa really striking case of how
miscreation operates.
Right?
The mind makes something unreal,believes in it, and then suffers
from it.

SPEAKER_02 (03:08):
Isn't that good?

SPEAKER_03 (03:10):
So the super ego, that's not uh that's not some
neutral observation ofconscience.
It's a mental structure thatactually that's actually built
in guilt and punishment andfear.
That's what that is.
And it seems like you gottalisten to it, but you don't.
And that's what I've been seeingall along.

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Like you don't have to listen tothat voice that comes across
with even, you know, you couldsay, you could say, like in
working out or something, gosh,I gotta get on the ball.
I really gotta like get, youknow, that's that's that one.
It's like not interesting, it'snot important, it just comes
from fear.

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So the superego, it's not aneutral conscience, it's a
mental structure that's built onfear and punishment and guilt.
So Jesus is show is showing usthat Freud, because he was

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resisting the atonement, youknow, even though he was
resisting the atonement, hestill could glimpse the
destructive dynamics of ego.
It's just that he misinterpretedthose dynamics as inevitable
structures.

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That's where it went awry forhim.
He saw what was going on as faras there's these destructive
dynamics as the ego, and he'srecognizing that they're coming
from the unconscious, but he'smaking them as if they're the

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thing, like they're they're thething that has to be, it's
inevitable.
See, let's read the sentenceagain.
Freud's super ear, here it goesagain, superhero.
Freud's super ego is aparticularly interesting example

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So the real power, quote, realpower of miscreation isn't
actual power, it's borrowedpower.
It's the energy of mind misusedunder the ego's direction.
The ego's a directing it to beuh something that's a that's
distorted, it's a distortedview, it's a distorted lens.

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So the super ego, you guys checkthis out because this is good.
The super ego is a counterfeitvoice of authority.
Okay, it's just uh it's justacting like it's God.
That's what's going on.
Instead of the Holy Spirit'sgentle voice, it's like this

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voice is our true authority,it's a parody of divine
guidance.
Instead of a gentle correctionby the Holy Spirit, the superego
is condemning, shaming, keepingthe mind enslaved in guilt.

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It masquerades as divineguidance.
That's what it's trying to be.
It's just that that's not howdivine guidance comes.
Divine guidance comes from theHoly Spirit's gentle correction.
That's why Jesus is calling itan interesting example.

SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
He has a sense of humor, that guy.

SPEAKER_03 (07:10):
Yeah.
The superego is an invention ofthe mind.
It's that this punisher withinthe mind, which itself is
designed to maintain theillusion of sin and keep fear

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alive.
It's a total fabrication, thissuperego.
It is just not necessary, it'snot needed at all.
Okay.
So practically, the way we canuse this sentence in our lives
is whenever we hear an innervoice that condemns us, shames

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us, frightens us.
This is where we recognize thisis not God's voice.
It's the ego's super ego, amiscreation.

SPEAKER_04 (08:03):
It's all the ego, like the body's the ego, the
id's the ego, the super ego'sthe ego, and then there's the
ego trying to manage all ofthem.

SPEAKER_02 (08:15):
Isn't it funny?

SPEAKER_03 (08:20):
So you can ask yourself if you're feeling any
kind of uncomfortable sense.
It's like, would love speak tome this way?
You're listening to this voice.
That's all it means.
You're just listening to thisvoice that's saying you're
something that you're not.
You're not that thing.
Okay.

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So the voice for God is alwaysquiet.
It's always certain, it's alwaysloving, it's always kind.
It's not that it's not real.

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It's not something that uhactually affects you unless you
choose to have it affect you,affect you in the moment.
It's not affecting you becauseof anything else that happened
in time, it's affecting you inthe moment because you're
choosing to be affected by it inthe moment.

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So you might as well just have alaugh at that, right?
There's no need to there's noneed to be suffering.
I love you guys.
Thank you.
So this is how the spell isbroken of the super ego.
So you don't have to be at itsmercy anymore.

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You don't have to be fighting.
It's a it's a fight thatdoesn't, and it's not really you
that can fight.
It's like you're watching ashow, you're believing it to be
so.
So then the superego and the id,they're like in this thing
together that no one ever wins,right?
No one's ever happy in any ofthe ego's forms, the superego or

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the id.
So this restores the awarenessto your mind when you recognize
that this is just a fabricatedthing.
This is a fabricated voice.
This restores awareness to yourmind that only love has
authority.
And add to that, you are onlylove.

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So only you have authority.
That's what it's really saying.
Let's read the sentence one moretime before we move on.
Freud's superego is aparticularly interesting example
All right.

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Paragraph 19, sentence two.
This is page 100 of the completeannotated edition.
It is noteworthy throughout thewhole development of his, that's
Freud's theories that thesuperego never allied itself
with freedom.

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Okay, I need to read that again.
It is noteworthy throughout thewait.
All right, it is noteworthythroughout the whole development
of his theories that thesuperego never allied itself
with freedom.

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That is noteworthy throughoutall Freud's theories that the
superego never allied itselfwith freedom.
Then why would we ally ourselveswith it?
Right?
That makes no sense.
It was never for freedom, it wasalways for control.

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So here Jesus is highlighting acentral flaw in Freud's model,
and that's that the superego isalways caught up with
restriction, repression, guilt.
It's never about liberliberation.

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Because liberation is right now.
See, Freud was describing theego as an internal, the
internal, not an internal, theinternal voice of authority.
Punishing, controlling,demanding.

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In his system, in Freud's ownsystem, this what he called a
moral structure never offeredanyone relief.
It only increased conflict.
This is showing us the nature ofmiscreation.

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This is miscreation.
It enslaves, it does not free.
No illusion that comes from formarises out, or no illusion that
comes from fear arises from asense that something is being

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threatened can ever ally itselfwith freedom.
Because truly, freedom is onlythe truth of who you are.
That's the freedom.
There's no freedom in theseillusions.
And illusions that arise fromfear are already saying there is

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no freedom.
You have to conform.
The way of the ego is thisconformity.
So the superego is basically acounterfeit conscience.
It's a jailer masquerading as aprotector.

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Let's read the sentence again.
It is noteworthy throughout thewhole development of his
theories, that's Freud'stheories, that the super ego
never allied himself withfreedom.
Wow.

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You have something to say?

SPEAKER_00 (14:43):
Yeah, well, when I hear you talking, I recognize
that Christ offered freedom.
And psychology and philosophygave a good understanding of the
problem and maybe tweaking it,but they didn't release from the
loop like Christ did.

SPEAKER_03 (15:02):
Yes, and that's why he's pointing it out so we can
see, because our whole way we'vebeen conditioned to see things
has been based on this history,you know, that he's showing.
Like this is so so we see howwe've just been conditioned
toward this uh, I guess you cansay Freudian way of thinking

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through the society that we'vebeen conditioned in, and then
he's showing us the way to seepast that.
It's really sweet.
So, you know, a practical in inpracticality, notice when
there's an inner critic speakingthat's trying to help you to

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keep you in line, to preventmistakes.
What about trying to do that toother people too?
To keep them in line, to preventmistakes, always demanding
higher standards.
You're never good enough, forinstance, right?
You know, check in withyourself.
Say, does this voice ally withfreedom or fear?

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Is this freedom or fear?
You don't have to believe orfollow any thought that speaks
to fear.
You are entitled to freedom.
If anything you hear, ifanything anyone says or anything
you hear in your mind thatleaves you feeling small or

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guilty or trapped, that's thesuperego.
You are not trapped either.
It's a miscreation, it is notyour true guide.
I'll tell you, I felt trapped alot in my experience.
That was one of my things.
You know, I seem to be trappedin my childhood to the family
that I seem to have.

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I think maybe some of you guyscan relate with that.
You know, it's like, man, I wishI'd had a better family, you
know?
And so that trapped feeling kepton projecting throughout,
throughout, throughout until Irecognized, oh my goodness,
that's a voice that I'mlistening to that's telling me
I'm trapped, and I'm in completeauthorship of this right here.

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And it was like the bestrealization.
It was like, what the heck?
This is awesome.
I'm in complete authorship ofthis, only so that I can learn
to extend love through this.
The thing itself, whatever seemsto be happening, isn't even

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really happening, except it'shappening in a symbolic sense,
as a symbol of something deeper,as a symbol of uh of an
unwillingness and also of adeeper willingness.
It's all like that.
We're gonna get into this, intoit uh when we go deeper into

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this uh this chapter.
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All right.
So the correction is reallygentle.
It's like it's like I releasethe voice of guilt.
I choose the voice that alwaysleads to freedom.
I choose the voice that is sweetto me, and sweet toward others

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as well, because it's the same.
It's a simple shift.
It's a simple shift.
You're just choosing somethingelse, you're choosing something
that feels really good.
This breaks your identificationwith this counterfeit
conscience.
It's saying, Thank you for yourservice, and you may now leave.

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And that opens your mind, thatleaves the space in your mind
for the Holy Spirit's direction,which is truly liberating.
That's what we want to hear.
We want to hear from the HolySpirit, which is truly
liberating.
All right, you guys, I check onyou for your hands and

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questions.
No one's asking.
I'm just gonna keep on movingon.
I love you guys.
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All right, paragraph 19,sentence three, page 100 of the
complete annotated edition.
The most it could do in thisdirection was to work out a

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painful truth.
A painful truth, a painfultruce.
painful truce in which bothopponents lost.
That's what I was talking aboutearlier.

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But here's what the footnotesays: footnote 148.
I.e.
the superego and the id.
The superego reaches a trucewith the id through the
mediation of the ego.
So the ego becomes the mediatorand it mediates between the
superego and the id, which italso it which is also part of

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the ego, really.
It's like you got three now.

SPEAKER_02 (20:13):
You got a mediator, and you got the one that just
wants to have fun, and the onethat just wants to fucking go,
I'm in control of you.

SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
For instance, the one that wants to eat full fat
cottage cheese, and the one thatsays if you eat too much fat,
you're gonna get fat, which wefound out was a bunch of
bullshit, anyways.
All right, Freud's model.
Okay, so it says the most itcould do, that's Freud's model.

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The most it could do is talkingabout Freud's model in this
direction was to work out apainful truce in which both
opponents lost.
So Freud's model that set up thepsyche, the human psyche, as a
battleground.
We want those on.

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Yeah, we're doing awesome.
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Oh man, I'm telling you, thiskind of this this kind of deep

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dive, it just like it kind ofgets me giddy for sure.

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Thank you.
All right.
So Freud's model set up thisbattleground.
It's a battleground thing.
The the id, what he calls theid, which is basically what he's
saying is primitive instincts onone side and the superego on the
other side.
This is a punitive authority,the superego, right?

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So we've got primitiveinstincts.
This is Freud's model, and andthen punitive authority.
One side's one and one side'sthe other.
And then the ego is trying tomediate them.
That's what he's talking abouthere.
painful truce in which bothopponents lost.

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Okay.
So Jesus is noting that thebest, the best this system could
do was a painful truce.
No one even wins.
The id remains repressed, thesuper ego remains condemning,
and the ego is in the middle,all exhausted.
That shows up in your body.

SPEAKER_02 (23:17):
That shows up in and as your body.
Isn't that so fun?
The exhausted ego in the middleof all this, right?
Isn't that so cute?
I love to watch that.

SPEAKER_03 (23:32):
Uh, so so this is how the ego's thought system
operates.
And this is how to see throughthe whole ego thought system.
That's what we're showing righthere.
It offers compromises, it neverresolves conflict.
It's never about resolvingconflict.
It it wants the ego wants themind to stay in a cycle.

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It's struggling, it's repressingitself, it's feeling guilty.
I remember when I used to be aworkout chick, what would keep
me in line, what I thought wasimportant to keep me in line,
was to be looking in the mirrorand pointing out flaws about
myself.
So I would go to the gym and notbe a lazy fat fuck, you know,
just like these these kinds ofways of relating with myself

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that really I learned fromwatching my parents and you
know, taking in what the the waythey would uh express to me.
But most of it is just watchingand the example, and then I'm
and then I'm learning that thisis how it works in life when it
does not work like this.
It only seems to while while wewould be hateful toward

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ourselves.
So this painful truth, whichFreud was offering, wasn't
healing, it was a perception, itwas uh it was this perpetuation
of conflict made to look like itwas resolution.
Somehow, this resolution iscoming in the future somewhere.

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The ego loves this, the egothrives on this, it loves this
dynamic, always keeping the mindtrapped between attack and
defense, so it never sees peace.
It's peace just never seemspossible because it's always
right between attack anddefense, attack and defense,

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making yourself wrong.
So, of course, in miracles isteaching that both the id and
the superego are miscreations,they're both symbols of a split
mind.
Do you see that?
Is it making this really clearto you?
Now, this is a symbol of a splitmind.
Now you need one that's justthis uh this libido energy that

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just wants to do everything, andthen you've got the super ego
that's controlling, right?
These are both symbols of asplit mind.
The Holy Spirit doesn't need youto negotiate between these
illusions.
Yeah, so it's just aboutwithdrawing belief in either

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side, both sides, there's justno conflict.
See, this truce between thesetwo is the ego's substitute for
peace.
Because the ego doesn't believethat peace is possible.
Neither system needs to be giveninto.
It's just about listening to theHoly Spirit and recognizing that

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everything is really a miracleimpulse in disguise.
So notice when you try to manageinner conflict with compromise,
giving the ego a little, youmight call the ego the one that

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wants things, giving theconscience.
That's what Freud calls thesuperego, a little bit, this
guilty self-conscious, a littlebit.
Neither guilt nor indulgencedefined define you.
You can just choose peace.
You don't have to choose guiltor indulge, indulging,

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indulgence.
Even the idea of indulgence isguilt in disguise.
That's the thing.

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Why would you want to?
Why would you want to go one bitfurther?
It's like you can push it beyondthe beyond that joy to go to the
other side.
Oh, okay.
Let me see.
I got the I got the definitionof indulge.
To yield an inclination todesire, allow oneself to follow

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one's will.
See, that's what it's saying.
It's following your own will.
And if you're just following theHoly Spirit's will for you,
which is God's will for you,which is perfect happiness, then
you're not indulging, you'rejust enjoying.
And that's peaceful.
See, you're just enjoying.
It's it's natural, it's normal.
Uh, we've been uh we've beentaught, I can say that really

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loosely because I feel like,man, I taught that to myself,
and I and it's fun.
There's joy in undoing it too.
You know, just this sense, likeuh, you know, I seem to like to
eat ghee all the time.
And um, there's this sensepeople uh will reflect back to
me about how being this being soindulgent, especially how I put

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so much ghe on.
Geez, I even fry my berries andghee before I consider them
edible.

SPEAKER_02 (29:15):
Yeah.
And I like to put whipped creamon them too, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (29:20):
Uh, and it's like and it's like it's it doesn't
seem like indulgent to me.
It just seems natural and normaluh to be enjoying whatever it is
that I seem to be eating ordoing, or however I seem to be
sitting, or whatever task, orwhatever I seem to even be

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thinking about.
I like to be juicy with all ofmy thoughts.
You know, even if it seems likea murderous murderous thought,
it's like, oh yeah, oh, really?
Okay, well, good thing that'snot true.
You know, good.
Thing that's not even part ofme.
It's part of a dream that I'mprojecting.

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That is way, way, way different.
And I'm only projecting becauseof a mistaken belief.
Wow, that's awesome.
Love that.
I love this movie.
It's good.
So the Holy Spirit's way isnever compromise.
It's your full release.
Uncompromising release rightnow.

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You got it.
Yeah, that's been a theme.
Uh, me and Thomas have beentalking about this
uncompromising, uh I guess youcould say uncompromising
devotion to the truth, right?
That's a good way to say it.
So whenever we're refusing theego's interpretation that we

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have to do this truce, there'ssome kind of truce to be made,
we just choose atonement.
That's how we experience thethat true freedom.
The superego can't never offerthat because it's only now.
And now the superego is onlyalways a dick.
There's no need to listen tohim.
Let's read that sentence onemore time.

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The most it could do, that'sFreud's theory, in this
direction was to work out apainful truce in which both
opponents lost.
No wonder that dude was pissed.
He was not a happy camper.
At least not according to this.

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What we're reading here in ACourse in Miracles.
All right.
Looks like you guys are stilldoing good over here.
I love you.
Moving on to paragraph 19,sentence four, still on page
100.

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This perception could not failto force him to emphasize
discontent in his view ofcivilization.
See you guys, I told you he waspissed.
This perception could not failto force him to emphasize

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discontent in his view ofcivilization.
And this sentence has a footnoteattached to it.
Footnote 149.
In Civilization and itsdiscontents from 1930, that's
the name of a paper, I believe,or some kind of document.
Freud focused on the inherentfriction between the

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individual's desire to freelyexpress the instincts for sex
and aggression.
That's the id.
And the civilization's need forthe individual to repress the
same instincts and conform tothe group.
That's represented by thesuperego.
You guys hear that?

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Let me know if you need me toread anything again.

SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
Read that one again.

SPEAKER_03 (33:02):
Read that one again.
In civilization and itsdiscontents from 1930, Freud
focused on the inherent frictionbetween the individual's desire
to freely express and theinstincts for sex and
aggression.
That's the id.
And civilization's need for theindividual to repress the same

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instincts and conform to thegroup that's represented by the
superego.
Is that sweet or what?
So this friction, which givesrise to perpetual discontent, is
the same deadlock Jesus isreferring to above in that

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quote, in which both opponentslost.
That's the footnote that I justread.
So here's the sentence again.
This perception could not failto force him, Freud, to
emphasize discontent in his viewof civilization.

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So that's why it referred usback to civilization and its
discontents from 1930, which wassome kind of document by Freud
that focused on this thing.
So Freud concluded thatcivilization inevitably produces

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frustration, unhappiness becauseit forces the repression of
instinctual drives.
So automatically you're lookingat it, you're going, shit,
that's the best it could be isan unhappy compromise on both
sides.

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So Jesus is noting here thatthis outcome that Freud came to,
he's saying it's inevitablegiven the framework.
Once you're defining the psycheas being an irreconcilable
battle between the id andsuperego, the best you could do

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is predict discontent insociety.
How could you do any better thanthat?
If you've already defined yourpsyche as being in this battle
that never ends.

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Both made up by the ego.

SPEAKER_01 (35:54):
So cute.
Right.
The idea of separation anddivision.

SPEAKER_03 (36:03):
Yep.
So Freud's work in civilizationand its discontents, his paper,
that became a natural extensionof his misperception.
He was misperceiving.
It's magnifying this deadlockthat Jesus talked about before,
uh, where both opponents lost.

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That's the deadlock, onto asocietal scale.
It's like this made discontentseem to be, Freud's model made
discontent seem to be theunavoidable fate for humanity.
That's what we've beenconditioned with.

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That kind of belief, that it'sunavoidable.
The best we can do is bedivided, be controlled,
resentful, anxious, right?
So a Course in Miracles isshowing us that discontent is

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not our destiny, it's just theresult of believing in
separation.
It's not even the humancondition.
You could see, you could sayit's the condition in the
present moment of believing inseparation.
It's not really tied toanything.

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So Freud essentially mistook theproblem, which was ego dynamics.
It's these ego dynamics as ifthat's actually reality.
So all of his insights thatfollowed that were really just
reinforcing that story, the egostory, basically the story that

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humanity is doomed to be inconflict forever and ever.

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When we just withdraw thisbelief in separation, we're
like, but the separation neverhappened.
Then both of those dissolve theid and the superego.
Like we don't need it.
Peace is just restored.
So there's no such thing asinevitable discontent.

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It's only a choice now, it's notthe truth.
So notice when you just make theassumption, watch your mind.
This is what this is about.
Notice when you make theassumption that there's
conflict, frustration, ordiscontent, and those are just
part of life.
That's what the ego says.
Those are part of life, it'shuman nature.
That's the Freud's logic playingout still.

(39:02):
So, of course, in miracles issaying, refuse this assumption.
Conflict is not inevitable.
Discontent is not my fate.
I choose peace now.
So practically, if you ever findyourself normalizing this stuff,
discontent, displeasure,remember you're already whole

(39:30):
and free.
Civilization, these beliefs,they don't bind me.
I need to know what they are soI could see them and go, whoa,
that's but that's what's beenwhat running the show in my
mind.
Well, that's where this is wherethat stuff stops.
I'll stop that right now.
We don't need that anymore.
Thank you for your service, andyou may go.

(39:51):
You're off duty.
Only thing that binds us is ourbelief in this in separation
right now.
So this is how you shift fromseeing yourself as trapped in
the world structures.
It could be you think you'retrapped in a marriage, or you

(40:11):
think you're trapped as aparent, or you think you're
trapped in a job, or a certainsociety, or whatever it seems to
be in a relationship.
Your mind is free right now.
That's what that's saying.
Okay, got a comment here fromChristina.
In a sense, he is coming fromfear because of his thoughts of

(40:33):
what he feels is true, which hasno existence apart from thought.
Okay, let me read that again.
In a sense, he is coming fromfear because of his thoughts.
Okay.

(41:04):
Okay.
So, in a sense, he is comingfrom fear because of his
thoughts of what he feels istrue, which has no existence
apart from thoughts.
So these thoughts presentthemselves as a reality, like
this is just how it is.
But Jesus is saying that thisfeeling has no reality apart

(41:29):
from the thought itself.
Like let's say anxiety.
It has no reality apart from thethought itself.
They aren't grounded in God,they have no true foundations,
they're miscreations.
They seem to have power becausethe mind invests belief in them.

(41:53):
So when a brother acts fromfear, what you're seeing is the
mind, let's say impersonal mind,holding on to a false belief,
mistaking that to be the truth.
And the release is inrecognizing that.
Okay, fear, anxiety, upset,that's not an actual state.

(42:14):
It's always a projection ofbelief in separation right now.
Whatever looks like fear-drivenbehavior, it's a call for love.
The mind's caught up inthoughts.
It doesn't have none of thesethings have a real existence to
them.
So, you know, Jesus is saying,you don't have to take fear at
face value, just look past it.

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This is not the truth of mybrother.
This is only a thought.
It's mistaken for to be reality.
So it helps us to shift likethat.
Or, yeah, Christine, or trappedin a body.
In a sense, he is coming fromfear because his thoughts of
what he feels.
Yes, that feeling of trapped inthe in a body is coming from

(42:59):
thought.
Exactly.
Yes.
Yes.
And if I didn't get your yourmeaning right and you need to uh
clarify it, feel free.
I check on you guys.
And oh, someone wants to talk tome.
Okay, awesome.
Christina, aloha.
Do you want to come on camera ordo you like just being uh voice
one way or another?

SPEAKER_05 (43:19):
But I'm actually my my comment was my thought was
that Freud is seeing a horribleearth or a miserable planet
because of his thought that itis a miserable place.

(43:43):
And yes, that is based on hisfear because this is what he
believes to be true, right?
And you cannot what I got from acourse of love is um thought
isn't real in the first place,yes, so you cannot bait his his

(44:10):
negative outlook is based on thethought that this is a crazy
place, and it's because he fearsthat he doesn't want that, and
so but he's not looking past thefear, so there's no other way he
can see it.

(44:31):
Is that totally confusing?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (44:33):
No, no, you got it.
It you know, he's he's just he'sreally committed to his
theories, and his theories denythe atonement in the first
place.
They just say that this is thebase of our reality, and this is
the truth of our reality, isthese two things at on a
battleground together, fightingeach other, and with the ego as

(44:56):
the mediator, the ego being theself that we made, it's just
like uh exhausted.

SPEAKER_05 (45:02):
It gets exhausted, but it is all ultimately based
on his thought.

SPEAKER_03 (45:08):
That's right.
So it's it's not real, it is notreal, exactly.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 (45:15):
That's what I was trying to figure.
I mean, I get that um thought isis not real because unless it's
based on truth, the truth of whowe really are.

SPEAKER_03 (45:30):
It's true, and even the thoughts based on truth are
illusions, but they're pointingto the truth and actually
leading to the truth, right?
It's just it's it's given uslike like God gave us the Holy
Spirit with that whole structureof thought to help lead us out
of this delusion, thisdelusional sense.

(45:51):
And see, the reason why Jesus isshowing us these ego dynamics
that are playing out here is sothat we can see when these ego
dynamics are playing out,because our our mind is largely
unwatched.
And he's really encouraging ushere to watch our mind more so
we could see this dynamicplaying out, so we could

(46:12):
recognize it's not true andactively participate in our
awakening by choosing peace.

SPEAKER_05 (46:19):
And and a mind-heart connection.

SPEAKER_03 (46:23):
That's basically what it is.
When you say, when you sayheart, which is what you learn
from a course in love, it's thesame thing as a course in
miracles talking about yourright mind.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, so you could put those twotogether, isn't that fun?

SPEAKER_05 (46:39):
Yeah.
Integration.

SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
Yeah, yeah, because they're both really pointy to
the same thing and they are notcontradicting each other at all.
They are using a little bit ofdifferent language.

SPEAKER_05 (46:52):
Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (46:53):
Yay, thank you, Christina.
I love you.
Okay.
Um, okay, so I got anotherquestion here.
So wouldn't, so would it be thesuperego who is responsible for
addictions and compulsions?
How do you go about hand handingthat over to the Holy Spirit?

(47:17):
It's just a matter of thank youfor your service.
We will not be needing thisanymore.
We will not be requiring thisanymore.
And that is just right now, youknow.
Right now, I'm I'm open tohearing from the Holy Spirit.
Holy Spirit, show me what is themost helpful for myself and for
all of my brothers right now.

(47:39):
And then be willing to do that.
And whatever you seem to do, theway the Holy Spirit looks at
that is 100% acceptance.
So let's say I like to bring itto an extreme.
You're either doing heroin orwatching porn.

unknown (47:56):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (47:59):
In your dream.
Remember, this is in your dream.
Invite Jesus in.
Whatever you seem to be doing,invite Jesus in and show me how
I could be helpful within thisperception.
Because all you're really doingall the time is choosing which
thought system you're gonna givecredence to in the moment.

(48:24):
You're either leaning towardstruth or illusion.
You're actually like moving inthat direction.
It's like you're moving in thatdirection all the time.
So you don't have to worry aboutit in the sense of what's gonna
become of me if I keep on uhsmoking 20 spliffs every day,
for instance.
Like, what's gonna become of meif I keep on drinking a gallon

(48:46):
of whiskey every night?
You know, it's like let this begiven to the spirit, make it a
ceremony, whatever it is, enjoyit.
The superego wants to make itlike you need to be controlled
because you have this gallon ofwhiskey a night habit.
You need to be controlledbecause you have this shooting

(49:08):
heroin and then uh end up doingsexual favors you didn't want to
do, habit.
You need to be controlledbecause you're gonna get in
trouble.
When you give your body up to bea communication device for
bringing yourself and all ofyour brothers back to sanity and
the peace of God, nothing youcan find yourself doing is gonna

(49:32):
feel wrong to you.
So, you know, it's it's a matterof whatever you seem to be uh
contributing through thisdreamscape.
It's a hundred percent helpful ahundred percent of the time, no
matter what it looks like.
You need to know that becauseit's only symbolic, it didn't
really happen.

(49:53):
A symbol of something deeperarose.
It's a symbol of somethingdeeper.
Be willing to look, get curious.
The superego is not one bitcurious, it just wants to
project that punishment andguilt are actual things that

(50:14):
lead to happiness.
It's not true.
All right, one paragraph in onehour.
We're doing great.

SPEAKER_01 (50:26):
Deep dive.

SPEAKER_03 (50:27):
This is a deep dive.
Okay, I'm just checking on youguys.
I got uh let's see, SubstackPeep.
I love you.
You guys are so sweet, and yousweeties on Zoom too.
Thank you for your questions.
I love you.
All right, paragraph 20,sentence one.

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The Freuden id is really onlythe more superficial level of
the unconscious and not thedeepest level at all.
That's Jesus' words there from acourse in miracles, page 100.
And there's a footnote here,footnote 150.

(51:10):
In Freudian theory, the id isthe unconscious source of
primitive instinctive impulses.
In the course, the quote,deepest level, unquote, of the
unconscious is the miraclelevel.
So Freud believed that the idwas the ultimate depth of

(51:33):
unconscious, it's a primalreservoir of drives and impulses
like hunger, sex, aggression.
Jesus is correcting this.
He's saying the id is only asurface layer of the
unconscious, it's not the death.

(51:56):
Beneath that veil, this is aveil here, lies something way
more profound.
So, a Course in Miracles here issaying that the deepest level of
the unconscious is not instinct,it's the miracle level.

(52:16):
The memory of God, this call tolove, the presence of holiness.
It's never touched by theseillusions.
These illusions are onlysuperficial.
So Freud thought instinctualenergy was the foundation of the

(52:41):
mind.
He made that the foundation ofthe mind.
What Jesus is clarifying for ushere is that that instinct is
just a mask.
The foundation of ourunconscious mind is pure miracle
impulse.
Its foundation is in spirit.

(53:02):
So the id is just the decoy,it's covering over the miracle
impulse.
That's what's beneath, that'swhat's at the foundation of all
of this.
So the ego wants us to believethat our depth is dark and
chaotic and animalistic.
That's the id.

(53:23):
This is not a reality.
This is a make-believe thing.
This is what keeps us fearfuland not wanting to look inward.
We want to try to repress thisthing when we're listening to
the superego.
So the course is revealing whenyou go past this fear and guilt
and instinctual stuff, you seethere's not darkness, there's

(53:44):
light.
It's the miracle.
You look deeper than that.
This is where the memory of Godis.
It's always present, it's alwaysavailable.
The Freudian id is really onlythe more superficial level of

(54:05):
the unconscious and not thedeepest level at all.
So Jesus is into the deepestlevel.
Imagine that.
So here's how you canparticipate.
When you feel this pull, thiscraving stuff, fear, lust,

(54:27):
aggression.
Recognize this is not the truthof me.
This is not me.
I'm not lustful, I'm notaggressive, I'm not fearful.
Deeper than that is the miracle.
That's the memory of myinnocence, the memory of God's

(54:50):
love.
That's at the deepest level.
That's where I truly am.
This other stuff, it'ssuperficially imposed over the
miracle impulse.
I want to see clearly what'sreally there.
I don't want to be afraid of theunconscious.
I want to welcome it.

(55:12):
I see past that.
The Holy Spirit easily, andJesus in my experience too,
easily guide past thissuperficial superficial layer,
which I consider like anythingwhere it seems like something's
fearful.

(55:32):
Like anyone's mad at me, like Ihave to figure out how I'm going
to pay my bills, like um uh likethere's some bad weather coming,
even like anything that seemsfearful.
It's just like, man, that's thethat's the unconscious.
There's nothing to be afraid ofthere.
The Holy Spirit guides us pastall those kinds of thoughts to

(55:55):
the miracle level, and that'swhere true joining occurs.
So this is really reframing theunconscious to show us it's not
this pit of danger, but it'sactually where the miracles are,
waiting for us to release them.

(56:15):
So every instinctual reaction,let's say it's lust, let it be a
doorway, let it uncover and healthat belief in separation.
It's like you don't react to theuh to the sensation, to this

(56:38):
interpretation of the id as ifit's bad or good.
Just let it be what it is.
Feel it and recognize that it isactually meant to uncover your
belief in separation.

(57:00):
And just be listening to theHoly Spirit who speaks kindly to
you.
Like only listen to the HolySpirit.
Don't listen to the ego.
There's only now, so it doesn'tmatter if you were listening to

(57:22):
the ego before.
Because there isn't really abefore like that.
So, next sentence, paragraph 20,sentence two.
This too was inevitable becauseFreud could not divorce miracles
from magic.

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So, this is where we're gonnaget into miracles and magic, as
Jesus is pointing out here.
So he's saying, uh, why Freudstopped at the id and missed the
true depth of the unconscious.
He's this is he's pointing thisout right here.
He could not divorce miraclesfrom magic.

(58:02):
So he wasn't distinguishingmiracles, which are expressions
of divine love, and magic, whichis ego substitutes for healing.
So to him, any talk aboutmiracles would uh sound like
superstition.
Miracles sounded like magic tohim, and you know, magic is

(58:22):
defined here as ego substitutesfor healing.
So he confused those things, iswhat he's saying.
Freud dismissed the miracle whenhe settled for the id as the
deepest truth.

(58:48):
So he couldn't recognize themiracle level as the foundation
of the mind.
He couldn't see past, hewouldn't, he wasn't willing to
see past that psyche with theconflict drives and the
repression.
So the reason Jesus is sayinghere it's inevitable is because

(59:10):
once you confuse miracles withmagic, you cannot access true
healing, you can't access thesource.
Once you know, you it'sinevitable until you change your
mind about that.
So Freud could have changed hismind, he had the free will to,
but he didn't do it.
Okay, we got a question here.

(59:31):
Does the ego hear the HolySpirit?
Hmm, that is a good question.
I like that question.
Does the ego hear the HolySpirit?
Um, the ego is naturally afraidof what the Holy Spirit says.

(59:51):
So it's like when you considerthe Holy Spirit's thoughts, the
ego is naturally going to beafraid.
Of that.
What I notice in my ownperception, and here's what it
looks like first the ego isafraid of it.
Oh, you're going to get introuble.
This is going to be very bad.
Um, you're going to uh reallyscrew yourself up.

(01:00:14):
And then once it's demonstratedthat it does not screw anything
up, that it's actually totallysweet and awesome and leads to
beautiful relationships all theway around and uh and a sweet
way of being, uh, then the egocalms down.
That's what I notice.
You know, at first it mightflare up and there will be all

(01:00:36):
these illusions produced wherethe ego's going, see, you
haven't changed at all.
Nothing has changed.
Look how it is.
And look at now things aregetting screwed up.
Look, your relationships aregetting messed up.
Uh, I mean, when you just firststart listening to the spirit,
it's like it's like somethingchanges and the ego tries to
tempt you with thoughts like,now look how screwed up it is.

(01:01:00):
Look at how you screwed up bylistening to the Holy Spirit.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
You say I would think it wouldbe aware of a challenging
presence.
Yes, that's right.
It is aware of a challengingpresence.
It's aware of its annihilation.
That's why it's afraid of it.
And it's right about that.
Uh, I believe a Course inMiracles says it's one thing

(01:01:21):
that the ego is right about.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:26):
The one thing that the ego is right about, that it
is totally threatened.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:33):
It is totally threatened by the voice of the
Holy Spirit.
But see, also, and even for theego, what the ego doesn't even
know what actually benefits itbecause uh the ego is going
after uh things that don'tactually benefit it.
It actually wants to be reunitedwith its source, just like
anything else.
It's really only programmed totry to avoid that.

(01:01:56):
It's still psychic energy, it'sstill miracle impulse.
It cannot be anything else.
So it's just, you know, it'sready to have that gentle thank
you for your service.
We won't be needing this oneanymore, right?
See how gentle that is?
It's like it's not even likeego, you're bad.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:15):
It's like, oh wow, I wanted you to do that, and now I
don't anymore.
Thank you.
You know what I mean?
That's what you're reallysaying.
That's how it really is.
It's like, thank you for yourservice.
You may go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:28):
And I could feel it like when it goes, too, it goes
in joy.
Right?
I open up my body's energy fieldto be really transparent towards
it, and it's like, ah, it's justit's like a beautiful
transformation.
Freedom, freedom, freedom.
That's what the voice of thespirit does.

(01:02:49):
All right, I love it.
So Freud wasn't able torecognize the miracle level.
We want to recognize the miraclelevel.
We want to see that.
And it's not hard to see, it'sonly just beneath everything
that's uh that's not the miraclelevel.

(01:03:09):
Anything that says you needrepression, control, anything
like that, that's just super egotalk.
It's not anything, you don'thave to listen to it.
So let's read the sentenceagain.
This too was inevitable becauseFreud could not divorce miracles
from magic.
So this was quote, inevitable.

(01:03:31):
Jesus says, Because once youconfuse miracles with magic, you
have no access to the healingsource.
That's an important thing.
And see, it's not like you'redoomed to this.
You just choose again.
You decide that you you reallyare uh just here for miracles,
and there really is just amiracle impulse.
That's all.

(01:03:55):
In other words, you can't get itwrong.
Believing that you can get itwrong makes it seem like you're
getting wrong, doing it wrong.
You are that miracle.
So the ego is deliberatelyblurring miracles and magic.
Why does the ego do that?
Because if we can't tell thedifference between miracles and

(01:04:16):
magic, we'll just rejectmiracles.
So let's go into miracles andmagic a little bit.
Magic is the ego attempting tofix problems on the level of
form.
That's medicine, that's rituals,that's defenses, that's
repression, that's blocktherapy.
Okay?

(01:04:37):
Magic.
It's not evil.
It's not saying it's evil, it'sjust recognizing that it, these
are devices, they cannot bringtrue healing because they're not
addressing the mind.
They can definitely be used forthat, though, because miracles
totally bypass form, they goright to the cause.

(01:05:01):
The cause is what the mind'smistaken belief in separation.
That's always what it is.
So miracles re restore thetruth, they correct perception.
Yes, my love.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:17):
Yeah, so Course Miracles um says, as long as we
know it's magic, then we'relooking at it right.
Because then we're not lookingat it as salvation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:26):
That's right.
That's beautiful.
Thank you for putting it thatway.
So Thomas was saying, as long aswe know it's magic, that's the
ego's attempt to fix problems,we're using it right because
we're not using it as asubstitute for miracles.
Now, what I see too is somethinglike, especially like block

(01:05:47):
therapy and really anything.
It it's, you know, it's meant tobe used as the means for
miracles because it's in yourperception.
Whatever's in your perceptioncan be used and is meant to be
used as the means for miracles.
That's how I love to useeverything.
Uh, so and and remember, amiracle is the undoing, it's the

(01:06:12):
correcting, the correcting ofperception.
It restores the truth to yourperception.
That's what a miracle is.
Magic goes to the level of form,fixing problems at the level of
form, which again is not a badthing.
If you're cold outside and youfeel like you need a house and
you know how to build a fuckinghouse, go ahead and do it.
It's just not a miracle, it'smagic.

(01:06:36):
That's all.
It's just to know thedifference.
So, a course in miracles isshowing miracles are the true
power of the mind.
That's not magic.
It's uh it's it's more like theopposite of magic, it's not the
cousin to magic, it's the realunderlying reason any magic is

(01:06:58):
playing out, anyways, just sothat a miracle and and a huge
series of miracles would playout through it.
So notice when you find yourselfdismissing something that seems
super lofty spirituallyspeaking, like one of them is

(01:07:21):
I'm sustained by the love ofGod.
I am not sustained by money, forinstance.
Notice how that triggers in you,uh, or if it does trigger in
you, something that says that'swishful thinking or that's
magical thinking.
This is an echo of that Freudianconditioning.

(01:07:44):
Just notice that it's fun.
Wouldn't you rather have themiracle right now, though?
The miracle is actually allowingyourself to perceive that you're
sustained by the love of Godright now.
Wow, that's awesome.

(01:08:05):
That came out like woo.
Seeing that you're sustained bythe love of God right now,
choosing the love of God overthat thought that says, that's
wishful thinking that I couldpossibly be sustained by the
love of God.
I gotta go to work every day,for instance.

(01:08:26):
You're going to work and seemingto earn money is a magic trick.
Recognizing you're sustained bythe love of God, that's a
miracle.
Isn't that fun?
So here's another example.
Say you're taking a pain pillfor pain.

(01:08:46):
So that's magic.
That's addressing a symptom andform.
Choosing to release guilt andallow love, that's a miracle.
That's correcting the mind'scause.
You never need to feel any kindof guilty or make any kind of um

(01:09:07):
evaluation of yourself for usingmagic.
Never, never, never.
Just in remembering there's adeeper cure.
And you know, to me, that justseems obvious.
Like I don't even have to try todo that anymore.
It's just obvious to me.
This is not gonna cure theunderlying cause.

(01:09:27):
This is really just gonna helpme.
Uh, this is really just gonnahelp me have some temporary
relief and another illusion.
There's nothing wrong with it.
Right?
It's it's fun.
It's fun to do that stuff.
And you know, you could justaffirm if you don't feel that

(01:09:49):
within yourself already, justaffirm to yourself, I choose the
miracle.
I I don't choose the substitute.
The substitute is blessed, it'sgreat.
While it's necessary, I'll useit in joy and appreciation and
love, but my healing is in mymind.

(01:10:12):
And love has already beenanswered, so there's nowhere to
go for this.
All right, paragraph twenty,sentence three.
Now here's the text.
It was therefore his constantendeavor, even preoccupation, to

(01:10:33):
keep on thrusting more and morematerial between consciousness
and the real deeper level of theunconscious, so that the latter
became increasingly obscured.
Okay, let's read that againbecause that was quite the
sentence.

(01:10:54):
and the real deeper level of theunconscious, so that the latter
became increasingly obscured.

(01:11:17):
Paragraph twenty, sentencethree, page one hundred.
So it was therefore is referringto because Freud confused
miracles with magic and mistookthe id for the deepest level.
Okay, he was left with thisinverted map of the mind.

(01:11:39):
So his constant, it wastherefore his constant endeavor,
even preoccupation, to keep onJesus uses the word thrusting
more and more material betweenconsciousness and the real
deeper level of the unconscious.
So he's pointing out that Freudbecame almost obsessed, it seems

(01:12:00):
like here with these words,constant endeavor and
preoccupation with layeringcontent, basically.
He's saying he's thrusting moreand more material, layering
content, piling more theories,categories, explanations between
the conscious mind and themiracle level of the

(01:12:21):
unconscious.
So the more he developed hissystem, the more the actual
source of the miracle was hiddenfrom his view.
His psychology essentiallybecame a defense system.
Rather than uncovering thetruth, it was burying the truth

(01:12:44):
deeper.
And you know, Jesus kept oncalling to him, but he didn't
want to give up his theories.
So the insight here is this ishow the ego operates in all of
us.
It just adds more and morelayers of thoughts, theories,
distractions, interpretations,basically keeping us from the

(01:13:04):
simple truth.
Love is all that's real, love isour reality.
So Freud's preoccupation wasjust mirroring, mirroring the
ego's own defense strategy.
Right?
The mind, the the ego does notwant the mind to look inward.

(01:13:26):
Because when the mind looksinward, it's going to find the
miracle level.
So the ego tries to distract themind with endless materials so
it never finds the miraclelevel.
That's what looking inward leadsto.
So this is why, of course, inmiracles says the ego's whole
system is based on obscuring.

(01:13:49):
It's always about covering thetruth with complexity, analysis,
fear.
That's what was going on.
So the miracle impulse, which isat the bottom of the
unconscious, it's the foundationof the unconscious mind.
It's always present, alwaysunchanged.
So the ego, what the ego isbuilding is this changeful

(01:14:11):
thing, this labyrinth of mentalnoise to keep the miracle level
out of awareness.
That's all it is.
So, practically speaking, forthis sentence, let's let's have
the sentence again.

(01:14:31):
and the real deeper level of theunconscious, so that the latter,
the deeper level of theunconscious, became increasingly
obscured.
That's what the ego wants to dowith it.
So, practically speaking, noticewhen you're overanalyzing

(01:14:55):
feelings, motives,relationships.
Just notice this is not ajudgment on you.
Okay, that's the ego justthrusting more material.
When you're aware of this,you'll smile at it and then know
it's not a big deal.
Thrusting more material, morematerial between your awareness
and the miracle.

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Basically, when you're justaware of this process and you're
like, Holy Spirit, show me thetruth between all this mental
noise.
You won't be going deeper intoanalysis after that.
And if you do, you'll just besuper aware of it and learning
so much.
You know, in a smiling way,like, oh, wow, this is what

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plays out in secret.
I'm so glad I get to see it now.
Thank goodness it's also nottrue.
The miracle is really direct andclear.
It doesn't have any layers.
You might even say to yourself,I don't need any more layers.
There are more layers being uhbeing shown to me.

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I choose to remember themiracle.
Even though I'm being offeredthese layers, I don't really
want any more layers.
I'm good with layers.
So every time you refuse to pileon more ego interpretation and

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return, like when you justchoose to return to quiet
presence, you uncover this lovethat's in the that's never been
hidden from you.
It's never been hidden from you.
It's just in the back of theego's defenses, it's behind the
ego's defenses.

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Look at it, feel it, smile atit, be willing to return to the
quiet presence that you are.
Okay, paragraph 20, sentencefour.
And you guys let me know if youwant me to clarify anything or
read anything again if youdidn't get it.

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Okay, it looks like I'm caughtup with everyone's comments and
questions.
I love you.
Thank you.
Sentence four of paragraph 20,page 100.
The result was a kind of bedlamin which there was no order, no

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control, and no sense.
So the result, he's saying theresult of Freud's system, by
thrusting more material, morematerial from the previous
sentence, by thrusting morematerial between consciousness
and the true level of theunconscious, he ended up with

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this kind of bedlam.
Bedlam, let's see.
I was like, what is bedlam?
Let's check this out.
So originally this referred toBethlehem Royal Hospital in
London, notorious for itschaotic conditions.
Over time, the word came to meanmadness, confusion, and

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disorder.
So that's what that word means.
So Jesus said the result was akind of bedlam in which there
was no order, no control, and nosense.
So in this context, it's showinghow Freud perceived the
unconscious as this unrulyasylum, like an insane asylum of

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impulses with no coherence orsanity.
That's how he perceived theunconscious.
So with the miracle levelobscured to him, all Freud could
see was a madhouse of theseconflicting drives.
He's perceiving the mind asinherently chaotic.

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That's why he was bummed out.
So the ego deliberately promotesthis image of the mind like a
bedlam to keep us from lookinginward.
That's the whole thing.
It's saying, don't go there.
All you're gonna find is madnessand danger.

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But the unconscious is not trulychaotic.
That's what a Course in Miraclesis showing us.
Beneath all that noise isperfect order.
The miracle level is perfectorder.
It's actually reflecting themind's sanity and our union with
each other and with God.
That's what's at the base of themind.

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Let's read that sentence again.
The result was a kind of bedlamin which there was no order, no
control, and no sense.
No sense.

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So this is an ego mask.
It's not the essence of themind.
This is a distortion, thisunconscious that's fearful, that
seems fearful.
Jesus said earlier, it's thesource of fright.
It's understanding why you wouldbe afraid.

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It's the source of fright.
But you need to see through it.
It's just a mask, it's adistortion that's hiding the
miracle underneath it.
So look, notice when yourthoughts feel chaotic,
senseless, out of control.
Notice when they're justruminating, they're just going.
Don't mistake it for your truenature.

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That's what this is saying.
That's the ego's bedlam.
That's not the reality of yourmind.
You don't have to stay there.
You can sink deeper than that.
Beneath all of these appearancesis perfect order.
It's the miracle level in all ofus.
And whenever we refuse tobelieve that ego image, giving

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showing us that our mind is amadhouse, don't accept that your
mind is a madhouse.
It's not.
That's the ego.
It's not part of you.
That's not your true mind.
You get closer to experiencingGod's peace by your willingness
to go through this false mindthat you're propping up.

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And paragraph 20, sentence five.
This was exactly how he feltabout it.
Talking about Freud.
That it was uh a bedlam, noorder, no control, no sense.
So here Jesus is confirming tous Freud's personal experience.

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How his own system matched thattheory, he genuinely experienced
the unconscious as a place ofchaos with no sense or order,
because that was his theory.
So that became his experience.
That's why Jesus is saying this.

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Freud saw in the unconsciousmind what he himself felt inside
confusion, conflict, he wasdiscontent.
Instead of seeing ever seeingthe miracle level, his
preoccupation with analysis, andin A Course in Miracles, it

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says, the ego analyzes, the HolySpirit accepts.
So his own preoccupation withanalysis led him into ego's
chaos.
And he mistook that chaos as ifit was the ultimate truth.

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Right?
The sentence again, that thiswas exactly how he felt about
it.
And the sentence before that,the result was a kind of bedlam
in which there was no order, nocontrol, and no sense.
That's how Freud felt about it,obviously, because that's what
he projected about it.

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So this is teaching us too thatwe could just choose love, and
the same mind will reveal itselfas being orderly and sane and
whole and loving.
We choose love, that's all.
So Freud's struggle with lifeillustrates to us how it how

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that happens, how thatmanifests, because we seek the
truth whenever we seek the truthwithout distinguishing miracles
from magic.
He's saying we're ending up lostin this labyrinth of the ego,
mistaking madness as if it'sreality.
So this is a sweet foundationfor all of us to be able to

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distinguish miracles frommadness.
Knowing we want to be makingmiracles, that that's our
function, we're willing to seethings differently and not
interpret what we perceive inthe unconscious mind as if it is
really uh a source of danger.

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It's a source of fear because wemade it fearful, but fear can't
do anything to us.
It's just like it's like we justblow it off, literally.
So any chaos you perceive is notyou.
Your mind is whole, your mind issane and it's full of miracles.

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Any chaos in there, that's notyou.
It's not part of you.
It's a very important uhunderstanding so that you're
aware that whatever I see inthere.
You know, when one time when Iwent to I went for ayahuasca
journey, uh a friend set me upwith it and told the shaman, I
was her spiritual teacher, andhe was like, Man, you've never

(01:25:40):
done ayahuasca.
You may be in big troublebecause you're gonna see some
scary shit come up.
And I'm like, shit, bring thatshit on.
I know it's not part of me.
It's only thinking that it'spart of me that makes it scary
at all.
And that's even under theinfluence of a shitload of uh,
what is it called?
What I say was ayahuasca, a lotof ayahuasca.
You know, he wanted to give me alot because he wanted to uh have

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me, you know, have thatexperience of bringing those
things up.
And and yeah, I mean, at onepoint something came up and I
was just like, wow, oh, that'snot part of me.
And I just found myselfembracing it and seeing it
transformed into a Buddha, likewhatever this demonic evil thing
presents itself.
And I'm just yeah, all of thatstuff is just like really

(01:26:25):
obvious to me.
If it pops up as anything otherthan perfect love, what's what
it's there for me to do isembrace it in a sense of opening
my body's energy to it andbeing, hey, my mind is whole and
sane and full of miracles.
Uh, what is this doing here?
It must need a hug.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:47):
What else can it be showing up for?
Actually.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:55):
So it's like not wrestling with chaos, right?
Not uh wrestling with somethingthat seems ugly or threatening
or anything like that, butletting the Holy Spirit
reinterpret it.
So you can see that there's onlypeace always underneath every
perception that would tell youthat an illusion is actually
true.

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Yay! We got to two paragraphs,and we're getting to uh
paragraph 21 now, sentence one.
The later theoretical switch tothe primacy of anxiety was an
interesting device intended todeny both the instinctive nature

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of destructiveness and the forceof the power of miscreation.
Woo! What a sentence! What asentence that goes from 100 to
101 in the complete annotatededition.
So here's a footnote on this.
Footnote 151.
Freud's 1926 work calledInhibitions, Symptoms, and

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Anxiety, represented one of hismost significant changes of mind
on fundamental issues.
It set forth his new theory ofanxiety, in which he argued that
anxiety causes repression, notvice versa.

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That's the footnote.
So this is saying that Freud's1926 shift was pivotal.
Instead of seeing repression asbeing the cause of anxiety, he
he flipped it.
He said anxiety is the cause ofrepression.

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That was Freud's what Jesus iscalling a device.
A way Freud unconsciouslyavoided confronting real issues.
What are the real issues?
The destructiveness of the ego'sinstincts, the immense creative
force of the mind when misused.

Those two things (01:29:07):
the destructiveness of the ego's
instincts and the immensecreative force of the mind when
misused or used for miscreation.
So by making anxiety the primarything, he downplayed the

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destructiveness, is what Jesusis showing here.
The ego's attack drive.
He downplayed that and sidestepsidestep the truth, the radical
truth that the mind itself, notdrives, not instincts, not
repression, is the source ofsuffering.
He just didn't not want to show,he did not want to see that the

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mind itself was the only sourceof suffering.
It actually, the theory from theshifts that he did in 1926.
Seeing repression, uh, insteadof seeing repression as the
cause of anxiety, seeing anxietyas the cause of repression.
So that shift, 1926 shift,that's what prevented him and

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protected him from looking toodeeply.
That way he could explainneurosis and never touch the
miracle level or the core uh thecore problem of separation.
The ego's dream come true.
It's an ego's dream come true,basically.
So, metaphysical insight here.

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Anxiety is not the primarycause, it's a symptom of a
belief in separation.
Notice that anxiety is a symptomof belief in separation, nothing
else.
So the ego is to always tryingto put the symptom ahead of the
cause.

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Okay, so this is the way themind's real cause, that mistaken
choice for separation, isn'tbrought into question.
So it's like he elevated anxietyas a primary cause.
That's how he obscured the truththat fear is always coming from

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the ego's thought system.
It's from misusing the mind'screative power.
It has no other cause.
The decision to believe inseparation and the correction.

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It's a decision between beliefin separation and the miracle or
the correction of theseparation.
That's all.
So whenever you notice anxiety,don't just stop at the feeling.
Notice that the feeling is asignal that you're believing in
something right now.
It's a false cause.

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What thought am I holding thatmakes me feel unsafe, for
instance?
And then let the Holy Spiritreinterpret that.
There is no unsafe for you.
You're not something that canfeel unsafe.
You're projecting an image thatfeels unsafe and reports back to
you what that feels like.

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Anxiety is not causingrepression.
Anxiety is like a cover story.
It's misbelief.
And the misbelief, the mistakenthought, it's already been
undone in truth.
So you can claim that right now.
It's already been undone intruth.

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So this anxiety, it's justcoming from an echo, an echo of
a thought that is alreadyhealed.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:03):
One time in my life I made the mistake of labeling
it as anxiety, that I haveanxiety.
It labeled it and it made itmore real.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:12):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:33:12):
But what you're saying is absolutely true.
All it does is point to theseparation, and we then we know
that that's not true.

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:19):
Right.
That's not true.
Whatever I'm thinking right nowthat uh that's producing uh an
anxious feeling, that's nottrue.
It really helps to know theorder of things.
It's a thought first, and then afeeling.
The thought is the cause, and ithas already been undone in

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truth.
So this seeing seeing it thisway moves you from being trapped
in Freud's cycle of managingyourself, and this is the this
is the way to undo the rootcause.
This actually undoes the rootcause in your mind.
It's so easy and free.

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All right, sentence two.
We're on page 101 now, paragraph21, sentence two.
By placing the emphasis on theresult, the generative nature of
the power was minimized.
So footnote 152 comes with this.

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In other words, anxiety isactually the result of the power
of miscreation.
By emphasizing only this result,Freud inappropriately
de-emphasized the power thatgenerates the result.

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So Freud's theory focused onanxiety, is the problem.
But anxiety was really aneffect, it was not a cause.
The true cause was the power ofmiscreation.
That's the mind's misuse of itscreative ability.
It's it's a it's the mindbelieving in separation and

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guilt.
That's what miscreation is, youguys.
It's not something that you say,oh, that's a miscreation uh uh
in the in the illusion.
That's just perception.
The miscreation is this misuseof creation creative ability
when your mind is believing inseparation and guilt.
That's what it is.

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So by centering, by Freudcentering his framework on
anxiety, he was minimizing therole of the mind's generative
power.
That's what that's what Jesussays here.
It's like dealing with smoke andignoring the fire.
So let's read the sentenceagain.

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In other words, oh wait, that'sthe footnote.
That's good too.
By placing the emphasis on theresult, the generative nature of
the power was minimized.
So uh the mind being generative,that power of miscreation, it is
generative, it generatesillusions.

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So he's saying by emphasizingthe result, the generative
nature of the power, that powerof miscreation was being
minimized.
So anxiety is actually theresult by placing emphasis on
the result, which is anxiety.

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Yeah, that could be fear too.
He was just referencing anxiety,yeah, in that particular thing
that he was uh he was writing,but it could be any upset
feeling.
So this is how psychology gotleft with treating symptoms
rather than addressing the rootcause, and that's a pattern that

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still dominates modern therapy.
This is all kinds of therapy,even spiritual therapy is doing
that kind of stuff becausethat's how we've been trained.
So this is allowing us to havecorrection for that now.
What a blessing.
Okay, so a Course in Miraclesand Jesus through a Course in

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Miracles is super precise thatthought is the cause, the power
of mind, it's always creating.
That's either with the HolySpirit miracles, that's a given.
Or it's miscreating, makingperceptions.

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Underneath, even makingperception, it's it's always
creating, doesn't stop creating.
It's just that in your imaginedview, miscreation is also
possible, which it's not.
So anxiety or fear, like youwere saying, these are feeling
tones.

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Feeling tones.
You can feel them in your body'senergy to field.
These kinds of feeling tones arethe result of using your mind
against itself.
It's not a cause, it's a signalof what you're doing to yourself
right now.
The ego loves to keep us focusedon effects like anxiety, fear,

(01:38:26):
feeling, whatever feeling it is.
Because as long as you'repreoccupied with that, you're
not going to question the choicethat actually produces those
feelings.
Like, oh shit, I'm separate.
And there's all kinds of umextrapolations on the thought of
separate, the thought of lack,right?

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Or there's lack of love, lack ofmoney, lack of sex, lack of
food, lack of compassion.
Those are what are making afeeling effect.
So it's like feel the feelingeffect, but go deeper than that.
Don't run from the feelingeffect.

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That doesn't allow you to godeeper, but don't get caught up
in the feeling effect likeyou're trying to change it, like
I got to get out of this feelingor something.
Don't confuse that effect as thecause of anything.
It's not the cause of anything.
You are not capable of feelingthese feelings.
That's why you're projectingthem onto an imaginary self.

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It's as if this body is tellingyou how it felt, how it feels.
But really, what you've done issent out instructions to use
something and make you believethat you feel that way.
That's not even possible.
It's a dream.
Jesus is encouraging us toreturn, return to the mind where

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it's deciding and decide for thetruth.
Just decide for the truth.
Here's the the sentence byplacing the emphasis on the
result, in this case, anxiety,the generative nature of the
power was minimized.
That's the power of miscreationhe's talking about there.

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Power of miscreation.
So practically, when you noticeanxiety, this is a result.
The cause is my belief inseparation, which I would
release right now.
I would like to release thatright now.
You know why?
Because I like to stay in astate of uh of bliss, let's say.

(01:40:39):
It's been being called orgasmiclately.
Since my website,hopejohnson.org, we're saying
that's short for org for orgasm,right?
Okay, what were you gonna say,Thomas?

SPEAKER_00 (01:40:55):
Oh, just that anxiety can be looked at as a
red flag to remind me that I'mlooking at separation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41:01):
Yes, yes, anxiety can be used as a red flag to
remind him that he's believingin separation.
I love that.
That's a great way to do it.
It's like, oh, there it is.
Oh, this is where it gets good,right?
This is where it's getting good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:18):
Now I'm gonna see some shit.
Diana likes that one.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41:25):
Okay, so we're shifting, we're being encouraged
to shift our focus from thesymptom, which is this anxious
feeling, to the decisionunderneath.
Look at the decision underneathand then choose again.
Do I want to align with the egoor the Holy Spirit?
You might you you might affirmto yourself, my anxiety isn't

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coming from anything in theworld.
It's coming from my choice formiscreation.
If the question is, would Ichoose again?
And it is, then yes, I would.
My anxiety comes from me, my joycomes from me, my salvation

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comes from me.
I decide.
Here's where Jesus is giving thepower back to the mind, where it
actually is.
So this makes you moves you fromtrying to manage or suppress
your anxiety, which was Freud'sway.
So the way we're conditioned,most of us are conditioned to
do, uh, to actually undoing itscause.

(01:42:33):
That's Jesus' way.
Undoing its cause is recognizingthat you're making it.
It's not coming from the world.
I'm projecting this onto myselfright now.
Why?
A fearful ego.
I'm aligning, I'm I'm aligningwith a fearful ego.

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All right, paragraph twenty-one,section three, very short
sentence.
Destructive behavior isinstinctual.
Nice short sentence with a lotof juice.
Destructive behavior isinstinctual.
So within the ego's framework,destructiveness, you guys can

(01:43:19):
notice this, arises almostautomatically as if it's
instinct.
This doesn't mean thatdestructiveness is our true
nature.
That's far from that.
Jesus is saying destructivebehavior is instinctual.

(01:43:44):
That's you know creativeimpulse.
Yeah, he's saying that that'sthat's deeper, though.
That's deeper.
He's saying the creative impulseis deeper.
They're not on the same level,is what is what keeps on being
taught here.
Once the mind acceptsseparation, attack thinking is
like a reflex.

(01:44:04):
What the fuck are you lookingat?
For instance, it's automaticallythinking, it's about me.
Attack thinking is justautomatic.
All right, so the ego bends themind's creative energy into this
destructive energy, making itlook like it's built in.

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It's not destructiveness is nota God-given instinct that you
have, it's a distortion, it's anego distortion.
So, what seems instinctual isreally the ego's misuse of the
mind's power.
The sentence again, destructivebehavior is instinctual.

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Instinctual to Jesus, what hesaid before, that's not a real
thing, it's a decoy over themiracle impulse.
So recognizing the distinctionbetween the two keeps us from
confusing ego reflexes withcreation.

(01:45:10):
So, how do we look at this?
When destructive thoughts orthese impulses arise, how do we
look at this?
We don't identify with them, wesee them as ego reflexes, not as
something that touches us.
It's not part of us, it's notwho we are.
This is the reminder, uh, thisthis sentence, destructive

(01:45:33):
behavior is instinctual.
Instincts don't come from us.
It's like it's it's like aprojection.
Well, let's say they come fromour uh uh our wayward mind, but
they're not actually part of us,they're an effect of wayward
thoughts.
So a gentle reminder attack isnot your nature.

(01:45:56):
When you perceive attackthoughts or perceive attack
behavior coming from you oranyone else, that's not your
nature.
Another way of looking at it isit didn't really happen, it's
not of God, it only happened ina symbolic sense to show me that

(01:46:16):
my nature is not attack.
I love you, Wayne.
Thank you.
Thank you, my love.
Thank you for following along.
Yay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:46:30):
Yes, it's dawning on me that instincts are like our
five senses.
They're from they're in theillusion, they're in the dream
state, and we don't want tofollow them.
They're not they're not ourleader, they're not our guide.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:43):
Our five senses, you're talking about sight and
taste, and touch, and smell.
Okay, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:46:50):
Instincts is like another one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:52):
So the the the instinct, what Jesus is saying,
that instinct, destructivebehavior is instinctual.

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:02):
The dream state, right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:47:04):
It's not our eternal selves, it's not our eternal
selves.
That's right.
Our senses, even our fivesenses, are bringing back what
we wanted to see.
Our body doesn't tell us what wefeel, we tell it what to tell us
that we feel.
Yeah, it's not, it doesn't haveany power like that, that the
power we give to it.

(01:47:24):
So this brings us to paragraphtwenty-one, sentence four.
The instinct for creation is notobliterated in miscreation.
So even when the ego misuses themind, uses it for destruction

(01:47:48):
instead of creation, thecreative drive always remains
untouched.
So it's always a creative driveunderneath the miscreative
drive.
Miscreation does not undo thecreative drive at all.
It can only just cover it uptemporarily based on your

(01:48:08):
choice.
So beneath any destructiveimpulse is the same creative
energy.
It's just it's really justwaiting to be uh redirected
toward love.
And so there's no there's no waythe ego is going to ever cancel

(01:48:29):
God's gift of creation.
Even every miscreation ispointing to that creative force
underneath it, even everymiscreation to my mind, and
possibly to some of your mind,still proves that the miracle
level exists beneath it.
Every miscreation creationproves to my mind that the

(01:48:52):
miracle level is there beneathit.
So when I perceive destructivebehavior in myself and in
others, I look past it to thecreative impulse.
Oh, oh, isn't that so cute?

(01:49:12):
It's like nothing's beendestroyed by that, it's just
been misdirected.
Let's re let's redirect it.
Holy Spirit, redirect this tolove.
What a blessing.
What a nice bonding experience.
I love you guys.
Thank you.

(01:49:33):
Wayne asked, is instinct aknee-jerk response?
Yes.
Uh, you could say, okay, so thethe ego's uh what Jesus is
calling instinct is uh what he'ssaying, it's just expressed
automatically, almost like itseems like you can't help it.
It's just like, oh, it's like ayeah, what you call knee-jerk

(01:49:54):
reaction.
Um and then the spirit impulse,you know, it's at the bottom of
the mind, it's the foundation ofthe mind.
So it's like it's more like thatstill small voice, which through
practice, you're automaticallygoing to that still small voice
and bypassing the ego's voicebecause it just makes no sense
to you.

(01:50:14):
The more you go on and on, thatbecomes more of the automatic
reaction.
At first, it's a matter ofalmost using some kind of
effort.
Um, you might even call itwarrior effort, to be aware of
where you're giving into thisknee-jerk reaction and
recognize, like this part issaying, um, like it's always a

(01:50:37):
miracle impulse underneath that.
So instinct.
I just got the definition ofinstinct, an inborn pattern of
activity or tendency to actioncommon to a given biological
species, or a natural or innateimpulse, inclination or
tendency.
It could also be a naturalaptitude or gift or natural

(01:50:59):
intuitive power.
So it could have a lot ofmeanings.
Um, but you know, you can seehow Jesus is going here that the
instinct hit in this text, theinstinct for creation is not
obliterated by miscreation.
So you you can always choosecreation.

(01:51:22):
That's the thing, and nothing'sdestroyed through uh a
perceiving miscreation, it'sjust misdirected, so it's like
let's redirect this back tolove.
So, yes, I love you, thank you.
So, paragraph 21, sentence five,are still on page 101.

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That is why it is alwaysinvested with reality.
Okay, so the miscreation, it'salways on borrowed reality.
The ego can't generate anythingon its own, it's only distorting

(01:52:09):
what God gives.
It's invested, it's alwaysinvested.
Miscreation is always investedwith reality.
That's how it feels powerfulbecause it draws on the real
power of creation.
It's got no true reality of itsown, but it could feel powerful
because your all-powerful mindand you have the real power of

(01:52:31):
creation.
And when you invest thisunreality with reality, which is
your power, you give it apparentpower.
So there's a bear, there's aparadox here.
Miscreation seems to have effectbecause it borrows from reality,
but it is unreal in itself.

(01:53:00):
So the creative force is beingused for distortion.
That's a misuse of the creativeforce.
Whenever you believe thatmiscreation has real effects,
for instance, miracles restorethat force to its rightful

(01:53:24):
place.
It's love, it's extension, it'struth.
So we withdraw the reality wegave to distortion, and we
direct it back to its rightfulpurpose: love, extension, truth.
So practically, whenever anillusion seems powerful, they

(01:53:50):
only appear.
Remember, they only appearbecause the power of creation
lies beneath them.
Okay, so let's look at thispractically.
When illusions seem powerful,I'll give you some examples.
It's as if there's any kind oflack anywhere.
As if you're powerless, as ifyou're limited.

(01:54:12):
That's what it's talking about.
I'm just gonna finish this lastparagraph.
We're really close.
It's 5.02 Pacific time now.
I'm gonna finish the rest ofthis, going over the rest of
this paragraph, and then we'llclose out and we'll have
finished through uh paragraph21.

(01:54:33):
So you can use that recognitionthat illusions only seem
powerful because you gave themcreative power.
You can use that recognition toturn back toward the truth.
You turn back toward the truthyourself.
You recognize the power in thismiscreation is really the power

(01:54:56):
of God in me.
It's just waiting to be releasedto love.
I mean, it's it's as simple asthis.
I'm perceiving lack in theworld.
I can bring that to a truethought.
I am sustained by the love ofGod.
Everything is being sustained bythe love of God.
What I'm perceiving as lack isactually symbolic.

(01:55:18):
It's an illusion.
It's being presented to me as asymbol.
So I can uh demonstrate that Iam, in fact, sustained by the
love of God.
I demonstrate that to the mindthat I'm uh I'm projecting, this
ego mind.
I demonstrate what's actuallytrue.
It actually calms down thenervous system in the physical

(01:55:40):
sense.
Because then you're not gettingattacked.
So thanks you guys.
I love you.
Next time we will proceed.
It's amazing that it goes sofast.
I mean, to me, to my mind, it'slike, wow, that was two hours,
apparently.
So next time we start onparagraph 22, and we'll get more

(01:56:06):
into the magic miracle confusionand uh and get even clearer on
that.
And the reason why Jesus goesover these things over and over
again is because the ego tendsto come in and make these other
interpretations, and this is himkind of flushing that out for
us.
It's really helpful to get intothis and see what he's showing

(01:56:28):
so that we can be released fromthese things that play out
normally in secret.
He's revealing what gets playedout in secret so we can see and
actively participate in bringingthe sonships mind back to
sanity.
So what fun, everyone.
And if you're watching thislater on YouTube, uh, follow me

(01:56:53):
on Substack as well.
Um, because then you get moreinformation.
You get the the written, I don'tknow, there's a lot of things.
I think you're gonna love it.
Follow me on Substack.
Um, you can go to my website,hopejohnson.org.
You might be listening to thison a podcast.
There are podcasts.
Uh, this is a podcast.

(01:57:14):
If you want to search for it,search for Hope Johnson Wisdom
on Spotify or any other podcaststation.
And you can also search for HopeJohnson ACIM to get my other
podcast, which is daily ACIMlessons and commentary.
That's on any podcast station.
I'm also on Facebook.

(01:57:35):
I believe it's Hope Johnson.
You can type in Hope JohnsonWisdom and probably come up with
me.
Um, then then there's AwesomeHope Johnson on Instagram and
Awakening with Hope on Telegram.
You can join my channel thereand probably other places too.
Go to hopejohnson.org.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:55):
There's a shitload of things on there.
You can also donate to me, whichI freaking love it when you guys
do that.
Thank you for doing that.
Uh all right, Glenn.

SPEAKER_03 (01:58:06):
Oh, thank you, Caitlin.
Thank you.
Oh, I'm glad you're loving thedaily lessons too, Wayne.
Thank you for that.
Yay.
Oh, Sid, thank you.
I think collapsing time togetheris super fun too.
All right.
I'll be back next week.
I love you, Bertie.
Thank you.
I'll be back next week on Mondayfor wisdom dialogues.

(01:58:26):
And again, I'll be doing ACIMdeep dive, picking up where we
left off.
And I look so forward to joiningwith everyone again.
I love you so much.
Mahalo, aloha, and a hooey ho.
Woo.

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