March 6, 2025 • 44 mins
This week, we explore the transformative power of alignment coaching with Jason Drees, a master in the coaching field and author of one of my favorite books, "Do the Impossible: Unlock Your Full Potential with the Power of Mindset." Jason breaks down the essential difference between 'mindset' and 'frame'. He explains how understanding your unique frequency can unlock the potential for massive growth and achievement in both personal and professional realms.
Listeners will learn why chasing mere action often falls short and discover the profound impacts of aligning with your ideal future self. Jason offers practical exercises like repeat-after-me statements to help shift into an aligned frame where you are 100% certain you can hit the target.
Join us for this inspiring conversation and learn how you can start implementing these powerful principles today. Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review to support the mission of empowering others!
Jason's Book Recommendations:
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch
Journey of Souls by Michael Newton
More about Jason:
Jason Drees is an entrepreneur, alignment coach, author, husband, and father of four boys based in Austin, Texas. With more than 10,000 hours of coaching sessions delivered in his career, Jason catapults those he works with into success by disrupting old narratives and normalcy to partner with his clients to conquer limiting beliefs, remove resistance, upgrade their stories, and unlock unprecedented results.
He developed a proven 5-step framework to empower his clients to “Do the Impossible” in their lives. His creation of alignment coaching teaches others how to align with success at the level of their full potential rather than endlessly chasing results at the level of their problems.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What I discovered is that there's a level above
mindset, which I call frame,which is like the frequency of
you, and the frequency of youcreates your mindset.
So what I've discovered is thatthe fastest way to hit the
target isn't by chasing actionconstantly.
It's by aligning with theversion of you that knows how to
hit the target.
So I spend most of my timecoaching, getting the client
into alignment, because whentheir frame gets an alignment,
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it generates an aligned mindset,at which time they get
naturally inspired, action andflow to hit the targets.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to the House of Jermar podcast, where
wellness starts within.
The House of Jermar is alifestyle brand, empowering
women to live all in throughinterior design and personal
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We are a destination for womenready to reimagine what is
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We are honored to have you joinus on our mission to empower 1
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million women to live all in.
I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
inspired by this week's guest.
Welcome to the House of Jermarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today's guest, jason Drees.
I am so excited to talk to him.
I read a ton of books everybodybut his book, I have to say, is
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one of the best books I haveread in a year.
So he is the CEO of Jason DreesConsulting and he's the author
of Do the Impossible and one ofthe things I really like about
him, he's an incredibleentrepreneur, but he also calls
himself an alignment coach, andthat is something that you don't
normally hear.
So I am so excited Jason'swilling to make some time,
coming all the way from Austin,texas.
So, jason, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Thanks, jean, for the invitation.
I'm excited to be here, lookingforward to our conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Thank you for being here.
So I always love to start outwith just a little bit of
background about you personallyand how you got to be an author
and entrepreneur and runningthis huge coaching business
which you have, because most ofus don't start out there.
Our paths are not linear and Ithink we have the ability as
public figures to impact peopleand influence them and empower
them to try different things.
So, if you wouldn't mind, alittle high level about how you
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got here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, so let's see, I started.
I'm 51 years old.
I started in technology sales,was in technology sales for
about 14 years, Started acompany on the side with my
sales engineer, hired a TonyRobbins coach to help me run
that company.
The Tony Robbins coach asked mehave you ever thought about
becoming a coach?
That question changed my life.
Six months later I left tech,was in Tony Robbins coach
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training program, worked therefor three and a half years,
evolved my own coachingmethodology beyond Tony Robbins.
I built my own coaching companyand over the past I've been
coaching professionally for 12years now, and in the process of
the past 12 years is where Idiscovered this new model of
coaching, which I call alignmentcoaching.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, so let's talk about alignment coaching.
What does that mean?
Because you don't hear that.
You hear life coach, mindsetcoach, empowerment coach,
wellness coach.
Alignment coach is the firstone, so what?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
does that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
actually mean, and then we're going to dig into
your book.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, well, technically I grew up as a
performance coach, right, A TonyRobbins coach, performance
coach, mindset coach.
They're called performancecoaches, results-based coaches,
and they're strictly focused onthe results.
That's the primary thing, right, and that's and in my alignment
coaching as well the bigdifference is how you get there,
right.
So, for example, the simple wayto think about it is like the
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results you get come from theactions you take.
Yep, the actions you take comefrom your mindset.
Yep, right, and we know this.
Our brain knows that theresults are supposed to come
from the action.
So we end up chasing actionconstantly.
We think missing action isactually the problem.
But the actions you take arelimited to the mindset that
you're in.
So what a results-based coachdoes is like what's the results
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you want, what is all the actionyou can take?
And they literally do likeforced accountability to take
all of this massive action, andsometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't work.
It's very masculine.
It's very hard for a lot ofwomen to use those types of
coaches because it's somasculine and it drives you
straight into grindingconstantly.
What I discovered is thatthere's a level above mindset
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which I call frame, which islike the frequency of you and
the frequency of you createsyour mindset.
So what I've discovered is thatthe fastest way to hit the
target isn't by chasing actionconstantly.
It's by aligning with theversion of you that knows how to
hit the target.
So I don't spend.
I spend most of my timecoaching, getting the client
into alignment, because whentheir their frame gets in
alignment, it generates analigned mindset, at which time
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they get naturally inspired,action and flow to hit the
targets.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Right, which is really fascinating.
It's like you and you literallydescribe it in your book and
picture it in your book as thisthing that's out.
You know bigger than you.
It's like as if you are apicture it is yes.
So you do a beautiful job oftalking about framing and I hear
the word framing a lot from areframe perspective, from
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mindset coaching and mindsettraining.
A lot of what we do isreframing how you're thinking
about something, but yourconcept of framing is a little
bit different because it's notjust changing how you think
about something, it's getting inalignment, as you say.
So I want to talk about this,and I wrote this down because I
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didn't want to get it wrong.
You talk about the distinctionbetween mindset and frame.
Is awareness?
Can you explain that a littlebit?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, yeah, the book's a couple of years old, so
everything's evolved so much inthere.
But basically, mindset is yourbrain, yep, frame is all of you,
yeah, so a lot of times theawareness is the well.
Technically, what's actuallyhappening with alignment
coaching is that we're usinghigher level states of
consciousness to shift ourmindset into alignment.
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That's really what's happening.
I don't tell everybody that,but that's actually what's
happening.
And the big contrast betweenthis style of coaching and the
other style of coaching is theother style of coaching focuses
on forcing the action.
What we do is we focus onremoving the obstacles that are
in the way.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Sure, so is it sort of some form of visualization,
like you know who, who reallyare you, what do you really want
to be, and trying to startthere, as opposed to the
obstacles that are preventingyou from getting where you want
to go.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's a good question.
I generally don't start withthe word visualization, because
visualization comes from themind, so that's the mindset
level.
The frame level is a level abovethat.
It's almost like sensing.
Like the frame level isbasically is like you know
you're sitting in your car,you're looking forward and you
know that person's looking atyou.
Right, you're not using one ofyour five senses and, if you
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want, I can tell you the storyabout how I discovered frame
shifting and that will help youunderstand.
So in 2020, jason Dreescoaching was going great.
But Jason Drees coaching wasjust me.
I was just a coach.
I started working with BrandonTurner and I added five clients
per month, every single month.
So I get to August, I've got 65personal clients.
It was going great.
It was making great money.
And then Brandon Turner askedme to be on the BiggerPockets
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podcast.
So I said, okay, let's do that.
And then, literally the nextmonth, I had 192 people book in
an intro coaching session 192.
And I'm like it's a lot ofpeople, a lot of people, yeah,
so the business went from me tome and three coaches, a
salesperson and an ops admin inlike 30 days Wow.
So it was like August 1st I hadeverything under control, but
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all of a sudden in October I'mgetting overwhelmed.
And then things were going.
So with Brandon we launched myfirst group coaching program
called the Mindset Academy,which was a six-week program
with four calls a week, fourhours a week, the first week of
November.
So this is I was coaching 65clients.
I was completely overwhelmed,like I was just.
I was a level of overwhelm I'dnever felt before.
And every day I'm just thinkingdon't screw it up.
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Don't screw it up, becausemoney was just rolling in and
I'm sitting there going.
I'm so overwhelmed I can barelyeven function.
And then my brain had this likemoment and these moments are
where I get all this contentfrom.
So I had this moment where Irealized if you took Jason from
10 years ago and brought him toAugust 1st, he would have been
completely overwhelmed.
So that told me there's a Jasonin the future who, if that
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Jason from the future came toNovember 15th, say, for example,
he could look at everything andgo.
I got this.
And I thought about that for asecond and all of a sudden, my
stress went away, my doubt wentaway, my confidence increased, I
felt lighter and I didn't knowwhat happened.
I was like what was that?
And I didn't know what washappening.
So two hours later, I wasoverwhelmed again.
So I did it again.
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What did I do?
I thought about a futureversion of me that knew what to
do, and I literally did thatfive or six times a day, and
that's when I first startedfiguring out what frame shifting
was.
Coincidentally, my business10x'd in 2020 and 70% of that
revenue was in Q4.
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, that example first of all, like kudos to you,
right, those of us in the worldof manifestation like you
created that good for you.
But that example makes it soclear because in the book you
have all these exercises, right,about getting into alignment,
and then how do you integratethem?
By repeating and then shiftingyour frame and really thinking
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about as you say in the book,and now it totally makes sense
to me.
You're like can you seeyourself being someone who has
that and can do that and hasthose traits and has
accomplished what you want toaccomplish?
So your example is perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And what's actually happening is that normally, we
make decisions from our pastself because our mindset comes
from the past.
When we're thinking, we'remaking our decision from our
past self.
This process allows you to makedecisions from your future self
.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So fascinating.
And you have this whole repeatafter me which in the beginning,
as you're reading the book,it's like you literally say and
you're funny, You're reallyfunny in your book, by the way.
You're kind of like I tell youto say these things out loud and
(09:48):
then you're like you're notdoing it.
I know you're not doing it,Like no, I'm not, I'm sitting
here, I'm not reading this outloud by myself, but you're very
funny.
You're kind of like knowing andunderstanding human behavior
and calling us out on how we'relike kind of stepping into the
process, but not like all intothe process.
So where did you decide?
This concept of repeat after mewas going to help you get into
the right frame that you neededin order to do the frame
shifting.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, the repeat after me statements is the
foundation of all of this andit's not an affirmation.
The specific language syntax Iuse is a belief changing
statement.
In 2014, I was working for TonyRobbins as a coach.
The startup company I had withmy friend failed and we got sued
by an investor.
So I've got two small childrenstruggling to make money at 30
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bucks a half hour while I'mbeing sued by a millionaire and
I'm getting hit with requestsand I was literally just like
having panic attacks.
While I'm trying to be this peakstate Tony Robbins coach, on
every call I get an email frommy attorney and I have a panic
attack and I'm just like shit,what are we going to do?
Because he and I were bothbroke yeah, we both had two
small children so I wrote downon a piece of paper.
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I wrote down every time Terrycalls it's bad news, because
that's what I was feeling.
Terry's my attorney and I waslike that's mine, I hate it, and
I crossed it out.
And when I crossed it out, Ihad a moment and something
happened and it was like holyshit, 80% of what I was feeling
just disappeared.
And that's what I realized andactually I went on.
(11:14):
I wish I still had that journalbecause it took me like three
pages of repeat after me toclean up all the stuff from Tony
Robbins.
But basically I realized in thatmoment is that you can change
anything inside of you.
A belief is inside of you andall you have to do is take
ownership of it.
So I started testing it with myTony Robbins clients Repeat
after me.
I take full ownership of mylife, this old belief.
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I let it go and I literally waslike architecting clients'
mindsets, one belief at a timeover the past 10 years.
And then I finally got to thepoint where framing is.
Because the old way was I wastrying to fix a misaligned
mindset by changing belief afterbelief.
With framing you're just movingto the mindset that's already
aligned, the frame that'salready aligned, right, but the
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repeat after me, the repeatafter me, is the foundation of
all of it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's so fascinating and just so everybody knows, at
the end of your book you have,you have all these alignment
exercises, of all these repeatafter me's on almost every
subject you could possibly thinkabout, or blocks that are
blocking us from achieving whatwe want.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I've had people at my live events come because I'll
sneak some of them in yeah,especially the beliefs around
not good enough like thosebeliefs, and they'll walk out
and they'll be like I don't knowwhat happened, but my life
feels like because, if they usethe light because basically I'm
trying to clean up all, I'mtrying to re-architect their
mindset so it works this way.
Right, that's what all thoserepeat after me is like putting
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your mindset into the syntax,where it will work that way,
because whatever your beliefsare is your reality.
But most of us don't realizethat we can change all of that.
So we're most people are stuckwith their default old
programming.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So it seems to me as an outside person.
When I read your book and I'veread up about your coaching, it
seems like a if you can get it,it's like a faster path.
Yes, Is that true, Would yousay that?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, it's a very high frequency book.
A lot of people don't get it.
Um, but those some people likeoh, it's a very high frequency
book, a lot of people don't getit.
But some people are like, oh,it's just basic.
I'm like well, those that getit are like wow, I get a lot of
people like I read your bookseven times Because the real
concepts of Do the Impossible isreally like you have unlimited
potential.
So basically, the foundation ofall my coaching focuses on two
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beliefs is that you're unlimitedand there's nothing you can't
do.
Okay, so if a client saysanything to me that contradicts
those two, I know they're inresistance.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, of course.
How'd you come up with the do,the impossible phrase and the
title of the book?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It just came up out of nowhere.
It was literally what are wegoing to call it?
And it just like popped into myhead.
It was just literally.
There was not a lot of thoughtthere.
I wish I I wish it was a morefantastic story, but it was just
just flow, it was just there.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah Well, and you try to get people to change
their I don't even know what theright word is mindset frame
around impossible, becauseimpossible feels heavy to me,
Impossible feels heavy.
And so you change it to anuncommon target.
Yeah, which is that's kind ofcool Uncommon or unlikely.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah Right, which goes back to your whole point of
that you can do anything, it'sjust uncommon.
Just because it's uncommondoesn't mean that you can't do
it, and that's why I actuallysomeone had referred your book
to me because of that approachthat you have about impossible.
And just it's not that it'simpossible, it's just uncommon.
But who's to say you can't dothe uncommon?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, and we don't realize that we're creating our
own reality.
Like our reality is a match toour frequency, because we live
in an attraction-based universe,right?
And the law of attraction whichis so cliche, it's not Amazon
showing up with packages, thelaw of attraction.
So when I'm coaching clientsand they shift frames, all of a
sudden they start thinkingdifferently.
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Because, as the client, if wego back to my model of results
come from actions.
Action comes from mindset,mindset comes from frame.
Every person who's not hittingtheir target thinks it's an
action problem, Right?
But if you don't know what todo, you're in a frame that
doesn't know what to do.
So you can search for years andyou're never going to find it.
It's like shifting into that Xversion.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You for years and you're never going to find it.
It's like shifting into that Xversion.
You need to become the versionthat knows the answer, and
that's how you accelerate.
Then you move much more quickly.
Yes, so for people who arelistening, who's the right
person to come to seek out yourlevel of coaching, and what
levels of coaching do you offerto people if they're interested
in such a concept?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Good question.
Now the principles that we'retalking about apply to everybody
in every subject.
There's only one methodologyright.
It's alignment alignment withthe target.
Right Now, most of our I'd say80% of our clients 90% of our
clients are entrepreneurs orwant to be.
That's our audience right there, and a lot of coaches out there
can help you get started A lot.
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There's so many coaches in theworld.
But what we do is we can takewherever you're at and add you
to another level.
So a client comes in making$300,000, we'll get them over a
million.
They're making a million, we'llget them to 10 million.
So we will accelerate everybodyand typically the higher they
are, the faster they'll go.
Although we do have people whocome in at you know they just
have a W2 job and they want tobe an entrepreneur.
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We help those people too.
But our sweet spot is reallysuccessful, already successful
people who know they're meantfor more but they're willing to
do the effort, they're willingto invest in themselves, but
they're just something's missing.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Right, they just can't get there.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Can't get there.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, that's why Brandon Turner I don't know if
you know Brandon Turner, but hecoached with me for seven years,
right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
When I started coaching him, he was an employee
of BiggerPockets.
Now he's got a billion inassets under management.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Amazing.
So do you also help people who,let's say, feel lost and they
might be successful in wherethey are, but they feel like
maybe this isn't it, this isn'tmy purpose, this isn't my
calling, this just isn't me andI can't figure out what me is.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, yes, a hundred percent.
So getting people unstuck,helping them find their path.
Most people come to us becausethey want to make more money,
also increase leverage.
Most of our clients are afterfreedom right, freedom of time,
freedom over money.
But what always happens withevery client, regardless of
they're coming in to find theirpath or make more money, is this
model balances you outeverywhere, because the part
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that's out of alignment willcome up and I'll have clients
who will sign up to make moremoney and grow their business.
But the thing that's out ofalignment is their relationship
with themselves Interesting.
So three months of coaching,unwinding that and all of a
sudden, their business startsgrowing without taking any
different action in the business.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's fascinating and you offer different types of
coaching.
Can you talk about thedifferent ways that people can
engage with your company?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I do.
Primarily it's one-on-onecoaching.
We do a group coaching programcalled Mindset Academy.
There's a call every singleweek.
I have eight coaches on my team, so all of them are trained in
this stuff and they all havetheir own specializations as
well.
But it's primarily one-on-onecoaching and live events.
Very cool you gonna writeanother book, yeah, yeah.
Well, I actually have a secondbook that's written and not
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published.
That's kind of stuck on.
It was on financial mindset andit was on financial mindset,
but the new book is in my head.
I'm trying to get it out thisyear.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Okay, there you go.
You're practicing your ownframing to help flow and make
the book come out of you right.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yes, and I'm going through some of my own coaching,
which is shifting the book aswell, Because I thought it was
really going to be.
This is how you do a.
This is how to do alignmentcoaching.
This is how to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, it evolves, I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Because I've been through a lot.
I've had multiple divorces,I've had deaths in my family.
I've been through just a lot oflife that makes you relatable.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It makes it so that you're not this perfect icon who
seems like he's figured it allout.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, I was reading this astrology app and it said
you have unfortunately thisthing here and it means like
most of your lessons come frommassive pain.
I'm like that's great.
I look back at my life and I'mlike You're like thanks.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, yep, it's not happening to me, it's happening
for me.
Yep, okay, yeah, I can relateto that.
I understand how that works.
Wow, so you talk about events.
What type of events do you do?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Well, given that the real estate audience hasn't had
much money the past couple ofyears, we haven't been doing the
big events like we had before,but they're typically two days.
Our next one's going to be lateMarch or April in Austin, and
it's basically this one's goingto be like do the impossible
live, because we've done lots ofdifferent themes, but this
event is going back to thefoundation of just like
unlocking your full potential sothat you can just play at the
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level you want, because mostpeople are playing at like 70 to
80% of their potential.
Yeah, because when they try toaim at a hundred percent, they
get so overwhelmed they don'tknow what to do.
So but when you start playingat a much higher level and
you're open to the growth thatcomes with it, that's we'll like
.
We like unlock you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Right, yeah, does that make you I'm listening to
you talk about it.
I'm like that gives me anxietythe responsibility of feeling
like you're going to take thiswhole large crowd and you're
going to actually get them tounderstand how to do this.
Does that give you anxiety orno?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No, I realized long ago that I don't control who
gets it and I don't control whogrows.
I only can control myself beingthere and doing everything I
can.
These events are also extremelydifficult to plan, like if you
could see behind the scenes.
My planning process for theseevents is a nightmare because a
vast majority of my content,especially when I'm speaking to
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live audience, is like I don'tknow how else to describe it.
Besides, I'm channeling it.
It's just responsive flow, likeflow, and that flow is based on
who's in the room.
So who's in the room changesthe theme of the event and I
can't plan for that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yes, you're going to respond to them and their energy
.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
My magic is really understanding the energy of the
audience and then flowingcontent that matches it.
Like all the time, I also do anelite client group where we do
have a call every single weekand everybody's most of the time
is like I didn't know, I neededto hear that today, but it's
exactly what I needed.
I get that a lot, get that alot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That should make you feel good.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I'm just.
I'm a channel for thisinformation.
I don't know how I got it orwhere it comes from, but it just
flows through me, so, and itall comes from coaching.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Do you feel like you found your flow Like this is it,
this is your purpose?
Or do you feel like you knowthis is great, but there might
be something else?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, this is it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
This is it.
You're a hundred percent in it.
This is it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, in 2012,.
When my Tony Robbins coachasked me have you ever thought
about becoming a coach?
I had a W2 job in tech.
At the time I felt like I gotstruck by lightning.
It was like that Boom Okaythat's what I'm going to do with
my life.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's what I'm going to do, and you just pivot, no
fear.
You just pivot, no fear.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But it was hard financial challenges, a lot of
difficulties.
It was not easy.
We were on food assistant forthe state at one point.
Oh my goodness yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, it's not all sunshine and roses once you get
to the top.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
My family's like what are you doing?
You had a good, paying temp job.
Why do you have to chase thiscoaching thing?
My brother-in-law was like do Ineed to raise your kids for you
?
Which he never apologized for.
And then, when I made like fivetimes what he made.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
he didn't say anything.
Yeah, Did your friends change?
Your inner circle have tochange when you went from having
a real job to being anentrepreneur and being a coach,
which is a little more on thewoo side.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah Well, I moved so much Like I grew up in Southern
California and was NorthernCalifornia so for like the past
20 years most of my friends havealways been my work peers.
Yeah so, but once I got intothe, the, the Tony Robbins
environment, like a decade ago,that kind of changed the peer
group permanently too.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
You need to be around people that can relate and have
similar, similar vibes, whichis sometimes one of the benefits
that people find in engaging indifferent coaching programs, is
they get connected with otherlike-minded people that can help
them on their journey so theydon't feel quite so alone.
So what's on your bucket list,personally, professionally?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, I did a bucket list trip two years ago.
Personally, I love off-roading,I love California and Baja
California, so I've alwayswanted to drive from San Diego
to Cabo.
So what I did this was in,actually, summer of 23.
I took my two oldest boys andwe took my side-by-side and we
went off-roading from the borderall the way to Cabo over eight
days with a group.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Wow, that's an experience.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So my bucket list now is I want to race the Baja 1000
.
My big bucket list is I want tochase sunsets for a year around
the world.
Oh, that's a good one, that likespecific and but yet broad yes
and and then, professionally, Iwant to get my next book out, I
want to.
I just I want to get to thepoint where I only do what I
(23:42):
love.
Right right now I'm doing a lotof business stuff that I'd
rather someone else do.
Yeah, so that part I'd rather.
I'd rather get to where I'mjust doing content, coaching and
talking.
That's what I'd love to do andthat's it Right.
And then create Jason Dreescoach training so that we can
start to evolve coachingglobally with this new
methodology.
So start to train more coaches.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yes, do you feel so?
Which is interesting becauseone of the other things I was
going to ask you, that I like toask people, is do you feel like
you have balance?
Because sometimes, as anentrepreneur, as you're growing
these businesses and you haveall these ideas, it's really
hard to have balance in life.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
How do you define balance?
It's whatever it is for you.
I don't know.
I don't fall over when I walk.
Yeah, oh, that's good.
I just go all in all the time.
That's just my nature.
Yeah, so I go all in and thenwhen I need, when it's too much,
I stop, you know.
So I, I get balanced where Ineed to.
And you know I'm, I'm I'mfinishing a divorce right now
(24:38):
for my partner of 16 years.
That went over the past sixmonths, so that was seven months
.
That was a big disruption.
Big, yes, radically bigdisruption.
So that and that, and,coincidentally, it's created the
personal growth in me that Ineeded to get to the next level.
I see that now, my 50th year, Iwas hoping it was better, but
it was literally one of the mosttoughest years of my life.
(24:59):
Yes, but yeah, so balance isyeah, and I'm really starting to
eat my own dog food a lot more.
You know, because everybody'slike Jason, you must be a master
of all this.
I'm like, hey, I'm still, I'm ahuman too, right, I wish, I
wish all my sit works on me aswell as it does other people,
but it doesn't work that way,you know.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, do you have your own coach?
Oh, lots of coaches you doQuite a few, quite a few.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I use the coaches on my team.
I use other coaches.
Yeah, the content is just in anever-ending evolution and what
worked last week may not workthis week.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I actually believe I'm constantly going to higher
and higher frequencies, so thetools start to change.
Yeah, now I enjoy it, and ifyou ask me about it, I'll talk
forever, because it's the mostexciting thing for me.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
But I'm starting to find a much better balance
recently of really allowingmyself to just sit in the
aligned frame versus needlesslychase action.
Because for the longest timewhen my business because my
business revenue is down a lotover the past couple of years
because of the real estateindustry being hit so hard that
I would just be chasing actionconstantly to kind of make
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revenue and and and I would notbe getting me anywhere.
So in December I finally I'mlike stop all that.
So I literally cut 30% of thestuff I was doing.
I just literally stopped it,stopped doing it, stopped it
completely and my revenue grew30% in December because of that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Now, why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Because I got into an aligned frame?
Okay, Because the other way Iwas caught in the pattern of
thinking action was the problem.
So I was caught in the patternof thinking action was the
problem.
So I was chasing all the actioninstead of being in a line
frame.
Because if you're let's sayyou're, so what is an aligned
frame?
Right?
So that's probably a goodquestion.
An aligned frame means you're100% certain you can hit the
(26:45):
target.
Yeah, Now, if you're 95%certain, think of it like this
If you're 99% certain, it soundslike it's a good idea to start
taking action.
But if you're aiming at atarget and your target's off 1%,
you'll never hit the target.
So the average entrepreneur,they're like oh, I believe, like
70% or 50%, I could do it.
And that's like saying hey,Gene, come visit me in Austin,
(27:06):
Texas.
So if you're 70% certain youcan hit the target, I gave you
an address to visit me.
That's 70%, right?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
How am I ever going to find it Right?
How are you going to?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
find you.
And when you get lost, do youkeep driving to feel better?
No, you stop and get direction.
But as entrepreneurs, we don't.
We just take more action,because we'd rather take action
than just sitting there.
So we're literally takingaction pointed in the wrong
direction.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, well, and it also as I'm hearing you say, you
believe 100% in the target andI feel, as an entrepreneur,
there is always this level ofself-doubt about what you're
doing.
I feel like it's innate in whatwe do.
There's doubt Is anyone goingto want the product?
(27:50):
Does anyone care what I have tosay?
Can I be successful at this?
All these doubtful things.
So I find it such aninteresting concept to be in
total alignment with what thattarget is and really being 100%
sure or feeling 100% that youcan do it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That feels hard, and the core thing that we do is,
I'd say, 99% of our clients aretrying to hit what I call an
unknown target, somethingthey've never done before.
Known is what you've donebefore.
So 99% of our clients aretrying to do something they've
never done before, and that'swhere it matters most to create
100% certainty, and it's alsothe most difficult place to do
(28:31):
that.
Yeah, right Now you can alsolook at what level the doubt is
coming from.
Right, because you can say andthis is kind of the secret of
how we actually help clientscreate alignment with a target
they don't know how to hit isthat, let's say, at the micro
level, the micro frame?
What are you actions you'regoing to take over the next two
(28:52):
months?
That's going to work?
You don't know.
But at a global macro frame,you can make a decision that
says I'm going to figure out howto hit this target because I'm
not going to stop until I do.
And that decision is what holdsthe global aligned frame and
allows doubt at the micro level,because the global frame is
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what the law of attractionresponds to.
So when you start to hold thataligned frame, the mindset will
start to show up with newthoughts and ideas.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Interesting.
Yes, do your clients focus?
And I'm literally probing formy own personal knowledge,
because I'm thinking of allthese things as you're talking.
I'm like, oh, wow, okay, so doyou encourage people to focus on
one target, one frame at a time?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, there's lots of frames within there, but it's
like, a lot of times it's focuson the goal you want, right, and
number one we usually got tomake that goal higher because
98% of the clients I meet, thegoals aren't high enough, right?
So, and if you know whatalignment is, if you can hit any
target you align with.
That's why you might as wellaim at an impossible target.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Sure, yes, that makes sense, I get that.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So let's say you want this target and you're 80%
certain you can do it.
How do you move to an alignedframe Like, okay, well, because
the aligned frame is 100%certain.
Now, a lot of times our brainwas going to think I'm going to
have to go construct alignment.
Right, that's what we think,we've got to go make it happen.
But it's actually backwards,it's a removal game, because
what's actually causing thatdoubt, which is the 20% doubt,
(30:29):
which is causing the 80%certainty, has 20% doubt, that
20% doubt is the past referencein your mindset.
That's contradicting whatyou're doing right now, which is
the limiting belief.
So if you remove so, the way toget that to a hundred percent
isn't to go make it a hundredpercent, it's just to remove the
20% and then it becomes ahundred percent.
And a lot of this really comesdown to internal language and
how you're describing your ownpresent reality.
Yeah, because if you say I'mgoing to go hit an impossible
(30:51):
target, that's in the future.
If you say I know how to hit animpossible target, that's in
the future.
If you say I'm hitting animpossible target right now,
that's still the future.
If you said I've hit animpossible target, that's the
present.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
We are creating at such a high frequency right now.
I've literally lately beendescribing it as instant
manifestation, with a 48-hourdelivery time, that's so
appealing.
Yes, it is To an entrepreneurlike me.
I'm like that's so appealing it100% is.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
My targets feel really large.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
They are, and that's your intuition telling you.
You're supposed to be at thatlevel, but you can't see it
because the path is in the nextversion of you.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Right, it's like a different frequency.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yes, so we almost have to like think about.
Your present reality is imaginea movie screen you're in right
now.
This is the present frame, andthe challenge we all have is
we're having reactions to thepresent frame.
Yes, finance problems, all thisstuff.
So we're constantly caught inthis reaction to the present
frame and that's why the averageperson recreates that same
frame over and over and overagain, because they never get
out of the reaction to it.
(31:56):
Right.
So you almost got to imagine,like your present frame, this
movie screen is here, but rightpast it is the movie screen
where you know what to do, andit can be nonspecific, like oh
my God, I'm making so much money, I got so much free time, I've
solved the problem, it's great.
So you almost like ignore thisreality while you put your
attention on this one.
And if you do that for 24 to 40hours, you'll see deals pop in,
(32:21):
you'll see things pop in, newideas.
It's that fast.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But our challenge is getting out of reaction of the
old story that we don't have it,that's what stops everybody yes
, and I also would thinkfocusing so much on the how
because you can't see the pathnecessarily, and that becomes a
stumbling block to so many of usis we don't see the path to how
we can get there.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
A hundred percent and and and and strategy is the
by-product of alignment.
So technically you want to waituntil the strategy is a hundred
percent certain.
If it's not a hundred percentcertain, you're not in alignment
.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So cool.
So what do you do?
This is a totally differentsubject.
What do you do for wellness, totake care of yourself, to make
it so you work all the time andyet you don't go crazy?
What are you doing to take careof your inner self?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I kind of slacked off and then I got that virus that
everybody had for two and a halfweeks, and so I'm building
myself back.
But I do a lot of exercise,balance.
I eat a lot of tacos, mexicanfood I love Mexican food and I
just make my life, I make myselfhave fun, just however I can.
I try to travel as much as Ican, and I'm going to New
Orleans next week to go havesome fun over there.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So- Try to stay present.
Do you journal?
Do you meditate?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I don't really meditate.
I've never really slowed downthat much Journal I'm just.
I'm like the least consistentperson I've ever met, because my
brain is like, if you look atprofile, my S and C is like 10.
It's almost negative, basically, which makes me a great coach.
Because I'm a change machine,yes, but I'm constant, like in
my own life.
It's chaos sometimes and I usedto fight that for a long time,
(34:05):
right, and I used to know, Iknow the Tony Robbins time
management system and I tried toimplement it in my life for
five years and I finallyrealized it just doesn't work
that way.
And I realized like I, you know, and I don't even have written
goals, and I haven't had for along time, and I used to tell
everybody I don't use writtengoals and my clients would be
what?
And then my ex actually told meone time she's like you know,
it's not that you don't havewritten goals, your goals are
(34:27):
just new realities that haven'thappened yet.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So Wow, that's big.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So I just this is going to happen what I do on the
day-to-day basis, because I'veplanned myself to the week and
I've not planned at all, and itdoesn't really make much
difference on how much Iaccomplish.
That's fascinating.
I am finding my way into livingmy life how I want to, to get
what I want, instead of thinkingI need it to be a certain way.
So I and there's been times inthis process of building this
(34:55):
mindset that I've suffered fromit, but I'm really trying to
remove all of the prerequisitesand conditions to creating the
life I want, because that's whatwhat holds us back.
We're like.
We're like, okay, we want to besuccessful.
Oh, and we found this persononline.
Oh, my God, here's a person whohas the same problems as me.
And they just did it Okay, andthey tell you what to do.
They do these five things everyday.
You don't every day.
(35:15):
You do three of them.
So you start telling yourselfyou can't be successful because
you're not doing all five, right, yes, so it's the prerequisites
that we create to success thatstop our success.
So I've been spending as muchtime as I can removing all of my
prerequisites.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's work.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, just to see what flows.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, oh, but that's good because you're kind of
living proof of how youimplement your approach and your
strategies to life and also atestament that it is continually
evolving and growing andchanging and it's not mastering
the techniques or is not likethe destination where you feel
like you get there, because then, as you say, you feel like your
(35:54):
frequencies are now evolvingand growing and getting even
higher and higher and you'removing into a different, a
different realm for you that youweren't in before.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I grinded for so many years and never got there that
I finally gave up.
I'm like that doesn't work.
Let's, let's, let's, let's seehow this this like, and I
wouldn't believe frame shiftingif I hadn't seen the results of
it so many times.
Right With my clients, becausewhen I started coaching from a
frame perspective about fouryears ago.
My clients' results just wentthrough the roof.
I was talking to one client.
He owns a brokerage and it wasstruggling.
(36:24):
Last year he was losing like80,000 a month.
It took me about two months ofcalls to get him out of reaction
.
We had two and a half months ofcalls.
Then we have another call.
He's like all right, I'mfeeling great.
Next call, after that goes, Ijust found a new revenue stream
for the business, which is a newseven-figure revenue stream
Call.
After that I just made a half amillion dollar commission in
the brokerage Like that Boom.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, like it's when they get unlocked and open, it
just starts flowing in.
And my coaches are amazing andthey're struggling to keep up
with me because I'm constantlychanging.
But my magic is removing thesubtle, subconscious resistance
that you don't know is there.
Yes, I remove that and then youjust start flowing.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
See, we all need you.
I'll speak from personalexperience.
I know a lot, I try a lot, I doa lot, but wow, yeah, I haven't
figured that one out.
I know a lot, I try a lot, I doa lot, but wow, yeah, I haven't
figured that one out.
I really haven't.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I think there's going to be a point in the near
future where I'm going to makean AI bot of me coach that
everyone can use.
I'll just load in all mycoaching calls for the past four
years, five years and all thatand have it talk just like me.
(37:51):
Well and it's hard, though,because there is only one you,
and you're trying to scale andgrow a business when there is
only one of you, and then youhave to spend a certain
percentage of your time trainingothers to be more like you.
They can't be you, but trainingothers to be like you.
And keep in mind, my team waslike me.
What's nice about my team isthey've all been coaching a
decade.
They were all my peers at TonyRobbins, right, so we all had to
unlearn ourselves as resultscoaches into alignment coaches.
So I haven't actually trainedalignment coaches from the start
(38:12):
yet, so I think that's going tomake it a little bit different.
But, at the same time,everybody doesn't always need
this type of coaching.
There's times where they'llcome to me.
I'll coach them for threemonths, and then they need more
tactical focus andaccountability.
Then they go to someone on myteam.
Yes, because you get intoweekly task management and, like
that, I suck at that type ofcoaching.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You don't and that's not the kind of work you want to
do.
I would think you want the bigbreakthroughs that have big
impact with people that you know.
By having that impact andgetting in that frame and
getting aligned, they made amillion dollars.
You know right away.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, and that's why I've always done my Mindset
Academy group coaching program,so everyone else could access me
too.
Like I think I've got probably200 hours of content in that
program.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Wow, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, you can just go to my website, mindset Academy.
It's $197 a month, there's fourone-hour calls a month and you
get access to the back library,which is three years of this
stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's amazing.
We'll put all of that in theshow notes, all right, so before
we go, because I've taken somuch of your time, so you have a
book, your book.
Obviously, I will link it here,I will talk about it, I will be
promoting it on Instagram, etcetera, et cetera.
But I always like to ask myguests if there's a book that
impacted them personally andprofessionally that they would
recommend, because books changelives.
So what book would you like torecommend?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I've got multiple.
That's good.
Rich Dad, poor Dad, started itall, yeah, in 2001.
And I think it made me crazyfor 20 years.
Practically Great book.
And then Conversations with Godby Neil Donald Walsh, which
isn't I'm actually not religious, but it's not actually a
religious book, but it's very.
It talks about human potential.
(39:47):
Yes, also Journey of Souls ofMichael Newton, that was also
really good, kind of helping meunderstand our infinite nature,
because I didn't always well,I'm going on a tangent here.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
No, it's good, that's good, it's important.
You have to believe insomething.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Got to believe in something?
Yeah, because for a long time Ithought when you're dead,
you're dead.
And then, in 2005, my21-year-old cousin died in a
drunk driving accident in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
And.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I had all of these different things and I talk a
little bit about in the book andI have these things come up
that made me start to questionspirituality, our full potential
, and I remember talking to atherapist back in 2006 that I
was afraid of my power because Ihave a role to play in lifting
the consciousness of the planet,and I was like I actually said
that, but that's actually what'shappening with this.
(40:31):
Coaching is like you're gettingto a higher version of you and
then you can change everything.
So that's kind of been the path.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's big.
Does it feel big?
Does it feel heavy or does itfeel empowering?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Not as much as it used to anymore.
You know it's nice to get.
I love having theseconversations because lately
I've been really tapped intokind of the business stuff and
the next evolution of me isreally the, the, the external
marketing version of me.
Right that's, that's the nextversion that's going to grow,
that I'm building.
So that's getting a lot of myattention right now.
But the past six months hasreally caused me to realize that
(41:05):
I always had a little bit offear in my motivation in the
past.
So even when the business 10Xand then tripled the next year,
there was a little fear in thereand I realized this past six
months was the process of megrounding myself and aligned
with myself, confident, happy,loved, so that I can really
build the foundation.
So now that foundation is built, now we're starting to take off
(41:27):
.
So that's this phase.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Good for you.
Fear is a big one.
We all have it in one capacityor another, absolutely Even the
fear of being wildly successfulSometimes wildly successful, you
know.
Sometimes that is veryfear-based for a lot of us is
what if I actually did hit thatimpossible target?
Then what?
Wow, then what would I do withmyself?
(41:50):
So, uh, jason, this has beensuch a pleasure.
Is there anything that I didn'task you that you want to make
sure you communicate out withour listeners?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
No, that was it Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Well, thank you so much for your time.
I will link everything in theshow notes.
Your book is truly impactful.
I love your approach toalignment.
I've read your book twice.
I'm going to go back and rereadyour book again.
I think everyone, includingentrepreneurs in particular, we
really could benefit from yourapproach and your wisdom.
So thank you for taking thetime to share it.
I appreciate it, especially ona Monday morning.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
You're welcome.
Thanks for the invite.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Great.
Stay in touch.
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What I discovered is that there's a level above
mindset, which I call frame,which is like the frequency of
you, and the frequency of youcreates your mindset.
So what I've discovered is thatthe fastest way to hit the
target isn't by chasing actionconstantly.
It's by aligning with theversion of you that knows how to
hit the target.
So I spend most of my timecoaching, getting the client
into alignment, because whentheir frame gets an alignment,
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it generates an aligned mindset,at which time they get
naturally inspired, action andflow to hit the targets.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to the House of Jermar podcast, where
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We are honored to have you joinus on our mission to empower 1
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I am your host, jean Collins,and I invite you to become
inspired by this week's guest.
Welcome to the House of Jermarpodcast, where wellness starts
within.
I'm your host, jean Collins,and today's guest, jason Drees.
I am so excited to talk to him.
I read a ton of books everybodybut his book, I have to say, is
(01:15):
one of the best books I haveread in a year.
So he is the CEO of Jason DreesConsulting and he's the author
of Do the Impossible and one ofthe things I really like about
him, he's an incredibleentrepreneur, but he also calls
himself an alignment coach, andthat is something that you don't
normally hear.
So I am so excited Jason'swilling to make some time,
coming all the way from Austin,texas.
So, jason, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Thanks, jean, for the invitation.
I'm excited to be here, lookingforward to our conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Thank you for being here.
So I always love to start outwith just a little bit of
background about you personallyand how you got to be an author
and entrepreneur and runningthis huge coaching business
which you have, because most ofus don't start out there.
Our paths are not linear and Ithink we have the ability as
public figures to impact peopleand influence them and empower
them to try different things.
So, if you wouldn't mind, alittle high level about how you
(02:07):
got here.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, so let's see, I started.
I'm 51 years old.
I started in technology sales,was in technology sales for
about 14 years, Started acompany on the side with my
sales engineer, hired a TonyRobbins coach to help me run
that company.
The Tony Robbins coach asked mehave you ever thought about
becoming a coach?
That question changed my life.
Six months later I left tech,was in Tony Robbins coach
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training program, worked therefor three and a half years,
evolved my own coachingmethodology beyond Tony Robbins.
I built my own coaching companyand over the past I've been
coaching professionally for 12years now, and in the process of
the past 12 years is where Idiscovered this new model of
coaching, which I call alignmentcoaching.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yes, so let's talk about alignment coaching.
What does that mean?
Because you don't hear that.
You hear life coach, mindsetcoach, empowerment coach,
wellness coach.
Alignment coach is the firstone, so what?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
does that?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
actually mean, and then we're going to dig into
your book.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, well, technically I grew up as a
performance coach, right, A TonyRobbins coach, performance
coach, mindset coach.
They're called performancecoaches, results-based coaches,
and they're strictly focused onthe results.
That's the primary thing, right, and that's and in my alignment
coaching as well the bigdifference is how you get there,
right.
So, for example, the simple wayto think about it is like the
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results you get come from theactions you take.
Yep, the actions you take comefrom your mindset.
Yep, right, and we know this.
Our brain knows that theresults are supposed to come
from the action.
So we end up chasing actionconstantly.
We think missing action isactually the problem.
But the actions you take arelimited to the mindset that
you're in.
So what a results-based coachdoes is like what's the results
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you want, what is all the actionyou can take?
And they literally do likeforced accountability to take
all of this massive action, andsometimes it works, sometimes it
doesn't work.
It's very masculine.
It's very hard for a lot ofwomen to use those types of
coaches because it's somasculine and it drives you
straight into grindingconstantly.
What I discovered is thatthere's a level above mindset
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which I call frame, which islike the frequency of you and
the frequency of you createsyour mindset.
So what I've discovered is thatthe fastest way to hit the
target isn't by chasing actionconstantly.
It's by aligning with theversion of you that knows how to
hit the target.
So I don't spend.
I spend most of my timecoaching, getting the client
into alignment, because whentheir their frame gets in
alignment, it generates analigned mindset, at which time
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they get naturally inspired,action and flow to hit the
targets.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Right, which is really fascinating.
It's like you and you literallydescribe it in your book and
picture it in your book as thisthing that's out.
You know bigger than you.
It's like as if you are apicture it is yes.
So you do a beautiful job oftalking about framing and I hear
the word framing a lot from areframe perspective, from
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mindset coaching and mindsettraining.
A lot of what we do isreframing how you're thinking
about something, but yourconcept of framing is a little
bit different because it's notjust changing how you think
about something, it's getting inalignment, as you say.
So I want to talk about this,and I wrote this down because I
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didn't want to get it wrong.
You talk about the distinctionbetween mindset and frame.
Is awareness?
Can you explain that a littlebit?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, yeah, the book's a couple of years old, so
everything's evolved so much inthere.
But basically, mindset is yourbrain, yep, frame is all of you,
yeah, so a lot of times theawareness is the well.
Technically, what's actuallyhappening with alignment
coaching is that we're usinghigher level states of
consciousness to shift ourmindset into alignment.
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That's really what's happening.
I don't tell everybody that,but that's actually what's
happening.
And the big contrast betweenthis style of coaching and the
other style of coaching is theother style of coaching focuses
on forcing the action.
What we do is we focus onremoving the obstacles that are
in the way.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Sure, so is it sort of some form of visualization,
like you know who, who reallyare you, what do you really want
to be, and trying to startthere, as opposed to the
obstacles that are preventingyou from getting where you want
to go.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's a good question.
I generally don't start withthe word visualization, because
visualization comes from themind, so that's the mindset
level.
The frame level is a level abovethat.
It's almost like sensing.
Like the frame level isbasically is like you know
you're sitting in your car,you're looking forward and you
know that person's looking atyou.
Right, you're not using one ofyour five senses and, if you
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want, I can tell you the storyabout how I discovered frame
shifting and that will help youunderstand.
So in 2020, jason Dreescoaching was going great.
But Jason Drees coaching wasjust me.
I was just a coach.
I started working with BrandonTurner and I added five clients
per month, every single month.
So I get to August, I've got 65personal clients.
It was going great.
It was making great money.
And then Brandon Turner askedme to be on the BiggerPockets
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podcast.
So I said, okay, let's do that.
And then, literally the nextmonth, I had 192 people book in
an intro coaching session 192.
And I'm like it's a lot ofpeople, a lot of people, yeah,
so the business went from me tome and three coaches, a
salesperson and an ops admin inlike 30 days Wow.
So it was like August 1st I hadeverything under control, but
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all of a sudden in October I'mgetting overwhelmed.
And then things were going.
So with Brandon we launched myfirst group coaching program
called the Mindset Academy,which was a six-week program
with four calls a week, fourhours a week, the first week of
November.
So this is I was coaching 65clients.
I was completely overwhelmed,like I was just.
I was a level of overwhelm I'dnever felt before.
And every day I'm just thinkingdon't screw it up.
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Don't screw it up, becausemoney was just rolling in and
I'm sitting there going.
I'm so overwhelmed I can barelyeven function.
And then my brain had this likemoment and these moments are
where I get all this contentfrom.
So I had this moment where Irealized if you took Jason from
10 years ago and brought him toAugust 1st, he would have been
completely overwhelmed.
So that told me there's a Jasonin the future who, if that
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Jason from the future came toNovember 15th, say, for example,
he could look at everything andgo.
I got this.
And I thought about that for asecond and all of a sudden, my
stress went away, my doubt wentaway, my confidence increased, I
felt lighter and I didn't knowwhat happened.
I was like what was that?
And I didn't know what washappening.
So two hours later, I wasoverwhelmed again.
So I did it again.
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What did I do?
I thought about a futureversion of me that knew what to
do, and I literally did thatfive or six times a day, and
that's when I first startedfiguring out what frame shifting
was.
Coincidentally, my business10x'd in 2020 and 70% of that
revenue was in Q4.
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, that example first of all, like kudos to you,
right, those of us in the worldof manifestation like you
created that good for you.
But that example makes it soclear because in the book you
have all these exercises, right,about getting into alignment,
and then how do you integratethem?
By repeating and then shiftingyour frame and really thinking
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about as you say in the book,and now it totally makes sense
to me.
You're like can you seeyourself being someone who has
that and can do that and hasthose traits and has
accomplished what you want toaccomplish?
So your example is perfect.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
And what's actually happening is that normally, we
make decisions from our pastself because our mindset comes
from the past.
When we're thinking, we'remaking our decision from our
past self.
This process allows you to makedecisions from your future self
.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So fascinating.
And you have this whole repeatafter me which in the beginning,
as you're reading the book,it's like you literally say and
you're funny, You're reallyfunny in your book, by the way.
You're kind of like I tell youto say these things out loud and
(09:48):
then you're like you're notdoing it.
I know you're not doing it,Like no, I'm not, I'm sitting
here, I'm not reading this outloud by myself, but you're very
funny.
You're kind of like knowing andunderstanding human behavior
and calling us out on how we'relike kind of stepping into the
process, but not like all intothe process.
So where did you decide?
This concept of repeat after mewas going to help you get into
the right frame that you neededin order to do the frame
shifting.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, the repeat after me statements is the
foundation of all of this andit's not an affirmation.
The specific language syntax Iuse is a belief changing
statement.
In 2014, I was working for TonyRobbins as a coach.
The startup company I had withmy friend failed and we got sued
by an investor.
So I've got two small childrenstruggling to make money at 30
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bucks a half hour while I'mbeing sued by a millionaire and
I'm getting hit with requestsand I was literally just like
having panic attacks.
While I'm trying to be this peakstate Tony Robbins coach, on
every call I get an email frommy attorney and I have a panic
attack and I'm just like shit,what are we going to do?
Because he and I were bothbroke yeah, we both had two
small children so I wrote downon a piece of paper.
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I wrote down every time Terrycalls it's bad news, because
that's what I was feeling.
Terry's my attorney and I waslike that's mine, I hate it, and
I crossed it out.
And when I crossed it out, Ihad a moment and something
happened and it was like holyshit, 80% of what I was feeling
just disappeared.
And that's what I realized andactually I went on.
(11:14):
I wish I still had that journalbecause it took me like three
pages of repeat after me toclean up all the stuff from Tony
Robbins.
But basically I realized in thatmoment is that you can change
anything inside of you.
A belief is inside of you andall you have to do is take
ownership of it.
So I started testing it with myTony Robbins clients Repeat
after me.
I take full ownership of mylife, this old belief.
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I let it go and I literally waslike architecting clients'
mindsets, one belief at a timeover the past 10 years.
And then I finally got to thepoint where framing is.
Because the old way was I wastrying to fix a misaligned
mindset by changing belief afterbelief.
With framing you're just movingto the mindset that's already
aligned, the frame that'salready aligned, right, but the
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repeat after me, the repeatafter me, is the foundation of
all of it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It's so fascinating and just so everybody knows, at
the end of your book you have,you have all these alignment
exercises, of all these repeatafter me's on almost every
subject you could possibly thinkabout, or blocks that are
blocking us from achieving whatwe want.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I've had people at my live events come because I'll
sneak some of them in yeah,especially the beliefs around
not good enough like thosebeliefs, and they'll walk out
and they'll be like I don't knowwhat happened, but my life
feels like because, if they usethe light because basically I'm
trying to clean up all, I'mtrying to re-architect their
mindset so it works this way.
Right, that's what all thoserepeat after me is like putting
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your mindset into the syntax,where it will work that way,
because whatever your beliefsare is your reality.
But most of us don't realizethat we can change all of that.
So we're most people are stuckwith their default old
programming.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So it seems to me as an outside person.
When I read your book and I'veread up about your coaching, it
seems like a if you can get it,it's like a faster path.
Yes, Is that true, Would yousay that?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, it's a very high frequency book.
A lot of people don't get it.
Um, but those some people likeoh, it's a very high frequency
book, a lot of people don't getit.
But some people are like, oh,it's just basic.
I'm like well, those that getit are like wow, I get a lot of
people like I read your bookseven times Because the real
concepts of Do the Impossible isreally like you have unlimited
potential.
So basically, the foundation ofall my coaching focuses on two
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beliefs is that you're unlimitedand there's nothing you can't
do.
Okay, so if a client saysanything to me that contradicts
those two, I know they're inresistance.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, of course.
How'd you come up with the do,the impossible phrase and the
title of the book?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It just came up out of nowhere.
It was literally what are wegoing to call it?
And it just like popped into myhead.
It was just literally.
There was not a lot of thoughtthere.
I wish I I wish it was a morefantastic story, but it was just
just flow, it was just there.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah Well, and you try to get people to change
their I don't even know what theright word is mindset frame
around impossible, becauseimpossible feels heavy to me,
Impossible feels heavy.
And so you change it to anuncommon target.
Yeah, which is that's kind ofcool Uncommon or unlikely.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah Right, which goes back to your whole point of
that you can do anything, it'sjust uncommon.
Just because it's uncommondoesn't mean that you can't do
it, and that's why I actuallysomeone had referred your book
to me because of that approachthat you have about impossible.
And just it's not that it'simpossible, it's just uncommon.
But who's to say you can't dothe uncommon?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, and we don't realize that we're creating our
own reality.
Like our reality is a match toour frequency, because we live
in an attraction-based universe,right?
And the law of attraction whichis so cliche, it's not Amazon
showing up with packages, thelaw of attraction.
So when I'm coaching clientsand they shift frames, all of a
sudden they start thinkingdifferently.
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Because, as the client, if wego back to my model of results
come from actions.
Action comes from mindset,mindset comes from frame.
Every person who's not hittingtheir target thinks it's an
action problem, Right?
But if you don't know what todo, you're in a frame that
doesn't know what to do.
So you can search for years andyou're never going to find it.
It's like shifting into that Xversion.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
You for years and you're never going to find it.
It's like shifting into that Xversion.
You need to become the versionthat knows the answer, and
that's how you accelerate.
Then you move much more quickly.
Yes, so for people who arelistening, who's the right
person to come to seek out yourlevel of coaching, and what
levels of coaching do you offerto people if they're interested
in such a concept?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Good question.
Now the principles that we'retalking about apply to everybody
in every subject.
There's only one methodologyright.
It's alignment alignment withthe target.
Right Now, most of our I'd say80% of our clients 90% of our
clients are entrepreneurs orwant to be.
That's our audience right there, and a lot of coaches out there
can help you get started A lot.
(15:50):
There's so many coaches in theworld.
But what we do is we can takewherever you're at and add you
to another level.
So a client comes in making$300,000, we'll get them over a
million.
They're making a million, we'llget them to 10 million.
So we will accelerate everybodyand typically the higher they
are, the faster they'll go.
Although we do have people whocome in at you know they just
have a W2 job and they want tobe an entrepreneur.
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We help those people too.
But our sweet spot is reallysuccessful, already successful
people who know they're meantfor more but they're willing to
do the effort, they're willingto invest in themselves, but
they're just something's missing.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Right, they just can't get there.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Can't get there.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, that's why Brandon Turner I don't know if
you know Brandon Turner, but hecoached with me for seven years,
right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
When I started coaching him, he was an employee
of BiggerPockets.
Now he's got a billion inassets under management.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Amazing.
So do you also help people who,let's say, feel lost and they
might be successful in wherethey are, but they feel like
maybe this isn't it, this isn'tmy purpose, this isn't my
calling, this just isn't me andI can't figure out what me is.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yes, yes, a hundred percent.
So getting people unstuck,helping them find their path.
Most people come to us becausethey want to make more money,
also increase leverage.
Most of our clients are afterfreedom right, freedom of time,
freedom over money.
But what always happens withevery client, regardless of
they're coming in to find theirpath or make more money, is this
model balances you outeverywhere, because the part
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that's out of alignment willcome up and I'll have clients
who will sign up to make moremoney and grow their business.
But the thing that's out ofalignment is their relationship
with themselves Interesting.
So three months of coaching,unwinding that and all of a
sudden, their business startsgrowing without taking any
different action in the business.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's fascinating and you offer different types of
coaching.
Can you talk about thedifferent ways that people can
engage with your company?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I do.
Primarily it's one-on-onecoaching.
We do a group coaching programcalled Mindset Academy.
There's a call every singleweek.
I have eight coaches on my team, so all of them are trained in
this stuff and they all havetheir own specializations as
well.
But it's primarily one-on-onecoaching and live events.
Very cool you gonna writeanother book, yeah, yeah.
Well, I actually have a secondbook that's written and not
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published.
That's kind of stuck on.
It was on financial mindset andit was on financial mindset,
but the new book is in my head.
I'm trying to get it out thisyear.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Okay, there you go.
You're practicing your ownframing to help flow and make
the book come out of you right.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yes, and I'm going through some of my own coaching,
which is shifting the book aswell, Because I thought it was
really going to be.
This is how you do a.
This is how to do alignmentcoaching.
This is how to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, it evolves, I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Because I've been through a lot.
I've had multiple divorces,I've had deaths in my family.
I've been through just a lot oflife that makes you relatable.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
It makes it so that you're not this perfect icon who
seems like he's figured it allout.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, I was reading this astrology app and it said
you have unfortunately thisthing here and it means like
most of your lessons come frommassive pain.
I'm like that's great.
I look back at my life and I'mlike You're like thanks.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Okay, yep, it's not happening to me, it's happening
for me.
Yep, okay, yeah, I can relateto that.
I understand how that works.
Wow, so you talk about events.
What type of events do you do?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Well, given that the real estate audience hasn't had
much money the past couple ofyears, we haven't been doing the
big events like we had before,but they're typically two days.
Our next one's going to be lateMarch or April in Austin, and
it's basically this one's goingto be like do the impossible
live, because we've done lots ofdifferent themes, but this
event is going back to thefoundation of just like
unlocking your full potential sothat you can just play at the
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level you want, because mostpeople are playing at like 70 to
80% of their potential.
Yeah, because when they try toaim at a hundred percent, they
get so overwhelmed they don'tknow what to do.
So but when you start playingat a much higher level and
you're open to the growth thatcomes with it, that's we'll like
.
We like unlock you.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Right, yeah, does that make you I'm listening to
you talk about it.
I'm like that gives me anxietythe responsibility of feeling
like you're going to take thiswhole large crowd and you're
going to actually get them tounderstand how to do this.
Does that give you anxiety orno?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No, I realized long ago that I don't control who
gets it and I don't control whogrows.
I only can control myself beingthere and doing everything I
can.
These events are also extremelydifficult to plan, like if you
could see behind the scenes.
My planning process for theseevents is a nightmare because a
vast majority of my content,especially when I'm speaking to
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live audience, is like I don'tknow how else to describe it.
Besides, I'm channeling it.
It's just responsive flow, likeflow, and that flow is based on
who's in the room.
So who's in the room changesthe theme of the event and I
can't plan for that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yes, you're going to respond to them and their energy
.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
My magic is really understanding the energy of the
audience and then flowingcontent that matches it.
Like all the time, I also do anelite client group where we do
have a call every single weekand everybody's most of the time
is like I didn't know, I neededto hear that today, but it's
exactly what I needed.
I get that a lot, get that alot.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That should make you feel good.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I'm just.
I'm a channel for thisinformation.
I don't know how I got it orwhere it comes from, but it just
flows through me, so, and itall comes from coaching.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Do you feel like you found your flow Like this is it,
this is your purpose?
Or do you feel like you knowthis is great, but there might
be something else?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
No, this is it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
This is it.
You're a hundred percent in it.
This is it.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, in 2012,.
When my Tony Robbins coachasked me have you ever thought
about becoming a coach?
I had a W2 job in tech.
At the time I felt like I gotstruck by lightning.
It was like that Boom Okaythat's what I'm going to do with
my life.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's what I'm going to do, and you just pivot, no
fear.
You just pivot, no fear.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But it was hard financial challenges, a lot of
difficulties.
It was not easy.
We were on food assistant forthe state at one point.
Oh my goodness yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, it's not all sunshine and roses once you get
to the top.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
My family's like what are you doing?
You had a good, paying temp job.
Why do you have to chase thiscoaching thing?
My brother-in-law was like do Ineed to raise your kids for you
?
Which he never apologized for.
And then, when I made like fivetimes what he made.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
he didn't say anything.
Yeah, Did your friends change?
Your inner circle have tochange when you went from having
a real job to being anentrepreneur and being a coach,
which is a little more on thewoo side.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah Well, I moved so much Like I grew up in Southern
California and was NorthernCalifornia so for like the past
20 years most of my friends havealways been my work peers.
Yeah so, but once I got intothe, the, the Tony Robbins
environment, like a decade ago,that kind of changed the peer
group permanently too.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I would think so.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
You need to be around people that can relate and have
similar, similar vibes, whichis sometimes one of the benefits
that people find in engaging indifferent coaching programs, is
they get connected with otherlike-minded people that can help
them on their journey so theydon't feel quite so alone.
So what's on your bucket list,personally, professionally?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well, I did a bucket list trip two years ago.
Personally, I love off-roading,I love California and Baja
California, so I've alwayswanted to drive from San Diego
to Cabo.
So what I did this was in,actually, summer of 23.
I took my two oldest boys andwe took my side-by-side and we
went off-roading from the borderall the way to Cabo over eight
days with a group.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Wow, that's an experience.
It was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So my bucket list now is I want to race the Baja 1000
.
My big bucket list is I want tochase sunsets for a year around
the world.
Oh, that's a good one, that likespecific and but yet broad yes
and and then, professionally, Iwant to get my next book out, I
want to.
I just I want to get to thepoint where I only do what I
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love.
Right right now I'm doing a lotof business stuff that I'd
rather someone else do.
Yeah, so that part I'd rather.
I'd rather get to where I'mjust doing content, coaching and
talking.
That's what I'd love to do andthat's it Right.
And then create Jason Dreescoach training so that we can
start to evolve coachingglobally with this new
methodology.
So start to train more coaches.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yes, do you feel so?
Which is interesting becauseone of the other things I was
going to ask you, that I like toask people, is do you feel like
you have balance?
Because sometimes, as anentrepreneur, as you're growing
these businesses and you haveall these ideas, it's really
hard to have balance in life.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
How do you define balance?
It's whatever it is for you.
I don't know.
I don't fall over when I walk.
Yeah, oh, that's good.
I just go all in all the time.
That's just my nature.
Yeah, so I go all in and thenwhen I need, when it's too much,
I stop, you know.
So I, I get balanced where Ineed to.
And you know I'm, I'm I'mfinishing a divorce right now
(24:38):
for my partner of 16 years.
That went over the past sixmonths, so that was seven months
.
That was a big disruption.
Big, yes, radically bigdisruption.
So that and that, and,coincidentally, it's created the
personal growth in me that Ineeded to get to the next level.
I see that now, my 50th year, Iwas hoping it was better, but
it was literally one of the mosttoughest years of my life.
(24:59):
Yes, but yeah, so balance isyeah, and I'm really starting to
eat my own dog food a lot more.
You know, because everybody'slike Jason, you must be a master
of all this.
I'm like, hey, I'm still, I'm ahuman too, right, I wish, I
wish all my sit works on me aswell as it does other people,
but it doesn't work that way,you know.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, do you have your own coach?
Oh, lots of coaches you doQuite a few, quite a few.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I use the coaches on my team.
I use other coaches.
Yeah, the content is just in anever-ending evolution and what
worked last week may not workthis week.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I actually believe I'm constantly going to higher
and higher frequencies, so thetools start to change.
Yeah, now I enjoy it, and ifyou ask me about it, I'll talk
forever, because it's the mostexciting thing for me.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
But I'm starting to find a much better balance
recently of really allowingmyself to just sit in the
aligned frame versus needlesslychase action.
Because for the longest timewhen my business because my
business revenue is down a lotover the past couple of years
because of the real estateindustry being hit so hard that
I would just be chasing actionconstantly to kind of make
(26:07):
revenue and and and I would notbe getting me anywhere.
So in December I finally I'mlike stop all that.
So I literally cut 30% of thestuff I was doing.
I just literally stopped it,stopped doing it, stopped it
completely and my revenue grew30% in December because of that.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Now, why do you think that is?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Because I got into an aligned frame?
Okay, Because the other way Iwas caught in the pattern of
thinking action was the problem.
So I was caught in the patternof thinking action was the
problem.
So I was chasing all the actioninstead of being in a line
frame.
Because if you're let's sayyou're, so what is an aligned
frame?
Right?
So that's probably a goodquestion.
An aligned frame means you're100% certain you can hit the
(26:45):
target.
Yeah, Now, if you're 95%certain, think of it like this
If you're 99% certain, it soundslike it's a good idea to start
taking action.
But if you're aiming at atarget and your target's off 1%,
you'll never hit the target.
So the average entrepreneur,they're like oh, I believe, like
70% or 50%, I could do it.
And that's like saying hey,Gene, come visit me in Austin,
(27:06):
Texas.
So if you're 70% certain youcan hit the target, I gave you
an address to visit me.
That's 70%, right?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
How am I ever going to find it Right?
How are you going to?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
find you.
And when you get lost, do youkeep driving to feel better?
No, you stop and get direction.
But as entrepreneurs, we don't.
We just take more action,because we'd rather take action
than just sitting there.
So we're literally takingaction pointed in the wrong
direction.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yes, well, and it also as I'm hearing you say, you
believe 100% in the target andI feel, as an entrepreneur,
there is always this level ofself-doubt about what you're
doing.
I feel like it's innate in whatwe do.
There's doubt Is anyone goingto want the product?
(27:50):
Does anyone care what I have tosay?
Can I be successful at this?
All these doubtful things.
So I find it such aninteresting concept to be in
total alignment with what thattarget is and really being 100%
sure or feeling 100% that youcan do it.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
That feels hard, and the core thing that we do is,
I'd say, 99% of our clients aretrying to hit what I call an
unknown target, somethingthey've never done before.
Known is what you've donebefore.
So 99% of our clients aretrying to do something they've
never done before, and that'swhere it matters most to create
100% certainty, and it's alsothe most difficult place to do
(28:31):
that.
Yeah, right Now you can alsolook at what level the doubt is
coming from.
Right, because you can say andthis is kind of the secret of
how we actually help clientscreate alignment with a target
they don't know how to hit isthat, let's say, at the micro
level, the micro frame?
What are you actions you'regoing to take over the next two
(28:52):
months?
That's going to work?
You don't know.
But at a global macro frame,you can make a decision that
says I'm going to figure out howto hit this target because I'm
not going to stop until I do.
And that decision is what holdsthe global aligned frame and
allows doubt at the micro level,because the global frame is
(29:13):
what the law of attractionresponds to.
So when you start to hold thataligned frame, the mindset will
start to show up with newthoughts and ideas.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Interesting.
Yes, do your clients focus?
And I'm literally probing formy own personal knowledge,
because I'm thinking of allthese things as you're talking.
I'm like, oh, wow, okay, so doyou encourage people to focus on
one target, one frame at a time?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, there's lots of frames within there, but it's
like, a lot of times it's focuson the goal you want, right, and
number one we usually got tomake that goal higher because
98% of the clients I meet, thegoals aren't high enough, right?
So, and if you know whatalignment is, if you can hit any
target you align with.
That's why you might as wellaim at an impossible target.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Sure, yes, that makes sense, I get that.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So let's say you want this target and you're 80%
certain you can do it.
How do you move to an alignedframe Like, okay, well, because
the aligned frame is 100%certain.
Now, a lot of times our brainwas going to think I'm going to
have to go construct alignment.
Right, that's what we think,we've got to go make it happen.
But it's actually backwards,it's a removal game, because
what's actually causing thatdoubt, which is the 20% doubt,
(30:29):
which is causing the 80%certainty, has 20% doubt, that
20% doubt is the past referencein your mindset.
That's contradicting whatyou're doing right now, which is
the limiting belief.
So if you remove so, the way toget that to a hundred percent
isn't to go make it a hundredpercent, it's just to remove the
20% and then it becomes ahundred percent.
And a lot of this really comesdown to internal language and
how you're describing your ownpresent reality.
Yeah, because if you say I'mgoing to go hit an impossible
(30:51):
target, that's in the future.
If you say I know how to hit animpossible target, that's in
the future.
If you say I'm hitting animpossible target right now,
that's still the future.
If you said I've hit animpossible target, that's the
present.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
We are creating at such a high frequency right now.
I've literally lately beendescribing it as instant
manifestation, with a 48-hourdelivery time, that's so
appealing.
Yes, it is To an entrepreneurlike me.
I'm like that's so appealing it100% is.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
My targets feel really large.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
They are, and that's your intuition telling you.
You're supposed to be at thatlevel, but you can't see it
because the path is in the nextversion of you.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Right, it's like a different frequency.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yes, so we almost have to like think about.
Your present reality is imaginea movie screen you're in right
now.
This is the present frame, andthe challenge we all have is
we're having reactions to thepresent frame.
Yes, finance problems, all thisstuff.
So we're constantly caught inthis reaction to the present
frame and that's why the averageperson recreates that same
frame over and over and overagain, because they never get
out of the reaction to it.
(31:56):
Right.
So you almost got to imagine,like your present frame, this
movie screen is here, but rightpast it is the movie screen
where you know what to do, andit can be nonspecific, like oh
my God, I'm making so much money, I got so much free time, I've
solved the problem, it's great.
So you almost like ignore thisreality while you put your
attention on this one.
And if you do that for 24 to 40hours, you'll see deals pop in,
(32:21):
you'll see things pop in, newideas.
It's that fast.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But our challenge is getting out of reaction of the
old story that we don't have it,that's what stops everybody yes
, and I also would thinkfocusing so much on the how
because you can't see the pathnecessarily, and that becomes a
stumbling block to so many of usis we don't see the path to how
we can get there.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
A hundred percent and and and and strategy is the
by-product of alignment.
So technically you want to waituntil the strategy is a hundred
percent certain.
If it's not a hundred percentcertain, you're not in alignment
.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So cool.
So what do you do?
This is a totally differentsubject.
What do you do for wellness, totake care of yourself, to make
it so you work all the time andyet you don't go crazy?
What are you doing to take careof your inner self?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I kind of slacked off and then I got that virus that
everybody had for two and a halfweeks, and so I'm building
myself back.
But I do a lot of exercise,balance.
I eat a lot of tacos, mexicanfood I love Mexican food and I
just make my life, I make myselfhave fun, just however I can.
I try to travel as much as Ican, and I'm going to New
Orleans next week to go havesome fun over there.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So- Try to stay present.
Do you journal?
Do you meditate?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I don't really meditate.
I've never really slowed downthat much Journal I'm just.
I'm like the least consistentperson I've ever met, because my
brain is like, if you look atprofile, my S and C is like 10.
It's almost negative, basically, which makes me a great coach.
Because I'm a change machine,yes, but I'm constant, like in
my own life.
It's chaos sometimes and I usedto fight that for a long time,
(34:05):
right, and I used to know, Iknow the Tony Robbins time
management system and I tried toimplement it in my life for
five years and I finallyrealized it just doesn't work
that way.
And I realized like I, you know, and I don't even have written
goals, and I haven't had for along time, and I used to tell
everybody I don't use writtengoals and my clients would be
what?
And then my ex actually told meone time she's like you know,
it's not that you don't havewritten goals, your goals are
(34:27):
just new realities that haven'thappened yet.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
So Wow, that's big.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So I just this is going to happen what I do on the
day-to-day basis, because I'veplanned myself to the week and
I've not planned at all, and itdoesn't really make much
difference on how much Iaccomplish.
That's fascinating.
I am finding my way into livingmy life how I want to, to get
what I want, instead of thinkingI need it to be a certain way.
So I and there's been times inthis process of building this
(34:55):
mindset that I've suffered fromit, but I'm really trying to
remove all of the prerequisitesand conditions to creating the
life I want, because that's whatwhat holds us back.
We're like.
We're like, okay, we want to besuccessful.
Oh, and we found this persononline.
Oh, my God, here's a person whohas the same problems as me.
And they just did it Okay, andthey tell you what to do.
They do these five things everyday.
You don't every day.
(35:15):
You do three of them.
So you start telling yourselfyou can't be successful because
you're not doing all five, right, yes, so it's the prerequisites
that we create to success thatstop our success.
So I've been spending as muchtime as I can removing all of my
prerequisites.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's work.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah, just to see what flows.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, oh, but that's good because you're kind of
living proof of how youimplement your approach and your
strategies to life and also atestament that it is continually
evolving and growing andchanging and it's not mastering
the techniques or is not likethe destination where you feel
like you get there, because then, as you say, you feel like your
(35:54):
frequencies are now evolvingand growing and getting even
higher and higher and you'removing into a different, a
different realm for you that youweren't in before.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I grinded for so many years and never got there that
I finally gave up.
I'm like that doesn't work.
Let's, let's, let's, let's seehow this this like, and I
wouldn't believe frame shiftingif I hadn't seen the results of
it so many times.
Right With my clients, becausewhen I started coaching from a
frame perspective about fouryears ago.
My clients' results just wentthrough the roof.
I was talking to one client.
He owns a brokerage and it wasstruggling.
(36:24):
Last year he was losing like80,000 a month.
It took me about two months ofcalls to get him out of reaction
.
We had two and a half months ofcalls.
Then we have another call.
He's like all right, I'mfeeling great.
Next call, after that goes, Ijust found a new revenue stream
for the business, which is a newseven-figure revenue stream
Call.
After that I just made a half amillion dollar commission in
the brokerage Like that Boom.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Yeah, like it's when they get unlocked and open, it
just starts flowing in.
And my coaches are amazing andthey're struggling to keep up
with me because I'm constantlychanging.
But my magic is removing thesubtle, subconscious resistance
that you don't know is there.
Yes, I remove that and then youjust start flowing.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
See, we all need you.
I'll speak from personalexperience.
I know a lot, I try a lot, I doa lot, but wow, yeah, I haven't
figured that one out.
I know a lot, I try a lot, I doa lot, but wow, yeah, I haven't
figured that one out.
I really haven't.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I think there's going to be a point in the near
future where I'm going to makean AI bot of me coach that
everyone can use.
I'll just load in all mycoaching calls for the past four
years, five years and all thatand have it talk just like me.
(37:51):
Well and it's hard, though,because there is only one you,
and you're trying to scale andgrow a business when there is
only one of you, and then youhave to spend a certain
percentage of your time trainingothers to be more like you.
They can't be you, but trainingothers to be like you.
And keep in mind, my team waslike me.
What's nice about my team isthey've all been coaching a
decade.
They were all my peers at TonyRobbins, right, so we all had to
unlearn ourselves as resultscoaches into alignment coaches.
So I haven't actually trainedalignment coaches from the start
(38:12):
yet, so I think that's going tomake it a little bit different.
But, at the same time,everybody doesn't always need
this type of coaching.
There's times where they'llcome to me.
I'll coach them for threemonths, and then they need more
tactical focus andaccountability.
Then they go to someone on myteam.
Yes, because you get intoweekly task management and, like
that, I suck at that type ofcoaching.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You don't and that's not the kind of work you want to
do.
I would think you want the bigbreakthroughs that have big
impact with people that you know.
By having that impact andgetting in that frame and
getting aligned, they made amillion dollars.
You know right away.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, and that's why I've always done my Mindset
Academy group coaching program,so everyone else could access me
too.
Like I think I've got probably200 hours of content in that
program.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Wow, yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, you can just go to my website, mindset Academy.
It's $197 a month, there's fourone-hour calls a month and you
get access to the back library,which is three years of this
stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's amazing.
We'll put all of that in theshow notes, all right, so before
we go, because I've taken somuch of your time, so you have a
book, your book.
Obviously, I will link it here,I will talk about it, I will be
promoting it on Instagram, etcetera, et cetera.
But I always like to ask myguests if there's a book that
impacted them personally andprofessionally that they would
recommend, because books changelives.
So what book would you like torecommend?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I've got multiple.
That's good.
Rich Dad, poor Dad, started itall, yeah, in 2001.
And I think it made me crazyfor 20 years.
Practically Great book.
And then Conversations with Godby Neil Donald Walsh, which
isn't I'm actually not religious, but it's not actually a
religious book, but it's very.
It talks about human potential.
(39:47):
Yes, also Journey of Souls ofMichael Newton, that was also
really good, kind of helping meunderstand our infinite nature,
because I didn't always well,I'm going on a tangent here.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
No, it's good, that's good, it's important.
You have to believe insomething.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Got to believe in something?
Yeah, because for a long time Ithought when you're dead,
you're dead.
And then, in 2005, my21-year-old cousin died in a
drunk driving accident in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
And.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I had all of these different things and I talk a
little bit about in the book andI have these things come up
that made me start to questionspirituality, our full potential
, and I remember talking to atherapist back in 2006 that I
was afraid of my power because Ihave a role to play in lifting
the consciousness of the planet,and I was like I actually said
that, but that's actually what'shappening with this.
(40:31):
Coaching is like you're gettingto a higher version of you and
then you can change everything.
So that's kind of been the path.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's big.
Does it feel big?
Does it feel heavy or does itfeel empowering?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Not as much as it used to anymore.
You know it's nice to get.
I love having theseconversations because lately
I've been really tapped intokind of the business stuff and
the next evolution of me isreally the, the, the external
marketing version of me.
Right that's, that's the nextversion that's going to grow,
that I'm building.
So that's getting a lot of myattention right now.
But the past six months hasreally caused me to realize that
(41:05):
I always had a little bit offear in my motivation in the
past.
So even when the business 10Xand then tripled the next year,
there was a little fear in thereand I realized this past six
months was the process of megrounding myself and aligned
with myself, confident, happy,loved, so that I can really
build the foundation.
So now that foundation is built, now we're starting to take off
(41:27):
.
So that's this phase.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Good for you.
Fear is a big one.
We all have it in one capacityor another, absolutely Even the
fear of being wildly successfulSometimes wildly successful, you
know.
Sometimes that is veryfear-based for a lot of us is
what if I actually did hit thatimpossible target?
Then what?
Wow, then what would I do withmyself?
(41:50):
So, uh, jason, this has beensuch a pleasure.
Is there anything that I didn'task you that you want to make
sure you communicate out withour listeners?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
No, that was it Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Well, thank you so much for your time.
I will link everything in theshow notes.
Your book is truly impactful.
I love your approach toalignment.
I've read your book twice.
I'm going to go back and rereadyour book again.
I think everyone, includingentrepreneurs in particular, we
really could benefit from yourapproach and your wisdom.
So thank you for taking thetime to share it.
I appreciate it, especially ona Monday morning.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
You're welcome.
Thanks for the invite.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Great.
Stay in touch.
Have a great day.
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