From Gigantic Portions To Smart Choices: A Weight Loss Creator Shares What Works

The best diet isn’t a punishment; it’s a set of choices you’ll gladly repeat. We sit down with creator and coach Noah Tanner, who lost 110 pounds and kept it off for four years, to unpack the food swaps and mindset shifts that make weight loss feel doable in real life. No detoxes, no extremes—just practical switches, honest taste tests, and a big focus on fullness, flavor, and portion sanity.

Noah shares the simple moves that add up fast: trading soda for diet soda, swapping some pasta for potatoes to boost satiety, and building yogurt bowls with frozen wild blueberries and crunchy cereal for a dessert-level experience that actually fills you up. We get specific about what works and what doesn’t—powdered peanut butter belongs in yogurt or on protein ice cream, not as a sad spread; cottage cheese shines as a blended ranch dip or sweet toast topper, but not every “cottage cheese chip” hack deserves your oven time. We also talk condiments that carry their weight, from yogurt-based dressings to smarter BBQ sauce picks, and why reading labels matters when “zero” only means sugar, not fat.

The heart of the conversation is mindset. Noah explains how “feel good first, calories second” changed everything—enjoying ice cream without the food hangover, choosing portions you can walk on, and ignoring viral tall-burger stunts that mistake spectacle for satisfaction. He opens up about early missteps—overexercise, extreme restriction—and how he course-corrected toward balance, muscle, and a relationship with food that’s built to last. If you’ve wanted a roadmap that keeps your favorite foods while nudging the numbers in your favor, this is your playbook: fiber-forward carbs, protein you like, frozen fruit wins, high-fiber wraps, better sauces, and habits you’ll keep on autopilot.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_01 (00:18):
Welcome back to Inmoderation.
We're here with Liam and TimuScotty.

SPEAKER_05 (00:23):
Seriously, I have great moral and ethical
disagreements with V Shrep.
That's great.
What don't you like about him?
I I don't like that he's he's sohandsome.

SPEAKER_04 (00:32):
His six pack is too many packs.

SPEAKER_05 (00:35):
It's too many packs.
He's got a nine pack.
Make it even.
Come on.

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Make it even.

SPEAKER_05 (00:42):
Make it even.
That's it.
Once he's got that tenth ab, Ican let it go.

SPEAKER_04 (00:46):
I'll vote for you.
You got my vote, Timu Scotty.

SPEAKER_05 (00:50):
I thank you.
There's been a great tariffplaced on me.
So it while I may have been thediscount version before, I am
now much more expensive than thereal Scotty.
So you guys had to pay$12,000.
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What Timu version would you think you would be of
like a celebrity?
I already have mine.
I would love to be the Timu JimCarrey.
I would love to be Timu JimCarrey.
I love I like you go and watchhis movies, like all of just I
love that, like the wholecomedy.
I love everything about him.

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SPEAKER_04 (01:33):
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I love that.
I love it.
Um Bumblebee Tunum.
Bumblebee tuna.
Oh, I fucking love man.
Ace Pet Detective 2.
That's one of the rareoccasions.
I think the second one is betterthan the first one.
Not many movies.
Sequel's better.
That one's better.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51):
I agree.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52):
Better plot line.

SPEAKER_01 (01:53):
I don't know famous people enough to uh make an
assessment of who I'd be tumu.
You're a dead ringer for aSydney Sweeney type.
Yeah.
No?
Maybe.
I don't know who that is.
What's up, people?
Welcome to Inmoderation.

SPEAKER_04 (02:07):
You know the rest.
No, we don't know the Mike.
Mike.

SPEAKER_05 (02:11):
The show where we give you a moderate dose of
sarcasm info, and we alreadyknow.
We're not approved.

SPEAKER_04 (02:18):
We don't even know her when you're not here, so
we're gonna need you to say itevery time you're here.

SPEAKER_05 (02:23):
You haven't listened to the In Moderation podcast?
Are you kidding me right now?

SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
I don't uh listen.
The only thing I listen, what doI even listen to at this point?
Basically, just like what peopletag me in and my daughter.
Those are the two things Ilisten to.
She's speaking a lot more words,but mostly most of her words are
now just no.
Just no on everything.
I'm like, well, just no, no orsit down.
She tells me to sit down places,even if they're very
inconvenient, like sit down overthere.

(02:47):
I'm like, that's not something Ican sit down.
Like I can't sit on that.
What do you want from me?
You know what we can do?
She think you're a dog.
Uh no, she knows the dogs, butlike Because I mean that's
that's kind of how you treat adog is no, sit down.

SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
Sit down.

SPEAKER_04 (03:01):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Well, that's what toddlersbasically just boss you around
like that.
Yeah, that's that's what havinga toddler is.
If you're curious, if you'rethinking about having kids,
that's what it's gonna be like.
They just kind of try and bossyou around everywhere.
It's fun.

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SPEAKER_01 (04:11):
Oh shit.
And the extra voice you'rehearing is a poor soul that Mike
dragged on at the very lastminute.

SPEAKER_05 (04:19):
I did.
Noah, you should introduceyourself.
Let everybody know who you areand what you do.

SPEAKER_03 (04:23):
Yes, uh, I'm Noah Tanner.
I'm a fellow weight losscreator.
Uh, I've been on TikTok forabout four years now.
Uh amassed a following of toomany people uh that I deserve
anyway.
Um, but I've been on here for uhfour years, been making content
similar to these handsomefellas.
And uh Mike and I have beentalking about getting me on this

(04:44):
podcast, and then he calls meout of the blue like three and a
half hours ago.
Hey, we're recording at 10 p.m.
tonight.
That's somebody else fellthrough.

SPEAKER_04 (04:53):
No, literally everyone.
Basically everyone, becauseanother thing is just like, oh,
you're on, cool, get over here.
That's how it works.

SPEAKER_03 (04:59):
I I had no issue with it.
I had no issue with it.
But uh I lost 110 pounds, keptit off for four years.
Uh I'm a weight loss coach, andI run the Big Fella brand.
And uh Mike and I have beenmaking fun of each other on
podcasts for a while now, so hedecided to bring me over here.
And I I already I've I've nowgot to formally meet Rob and
Liam, and I think I like thembetter than you, Mike.

SPEAKER_05 (05:21):
I get it completely.
I'm just here to pass you off tothem.
This is custody.

SPEAKER_04 (05:27):
You know, people always talk about what's the
positives weight loss.
What's the downsides?
Is there any downsides that nowyou're just like, damn, it was
better sitting on a wooden chairis mine.

SPEAKER_05 (05:38):
You say like less cushion for for the chair.
Yeah, it's I can't we we were upuntil 2 a.m.
playing we were playing D D withScotty last night.
It was uh five of four of us,five of us and I'm sitting there
on a wooden bench and I'm souncomfortable because I don't
have an ass anymore.
And it's you know, I I my annualleg day happened in February, so

(06:01):
um yeah, it's there's justnothing left.
That used to not be a problem.
But what what what sucks aboutweight loss for you being on the
other side now?

SPEAKER_03 (06:09):
I'm I'm wearing a hoodie and a flannel right now
in my house.
No insulation.
I'm fucking cold.
I'm the Michigan, so I was oneof those kids that wore like
shorts through December and likethrough all the winter time, no
problem.
I'm a I'm not are we allowed tocuss on here or no?

(06:30):
Oh yeah, fucking right.
I'm a bitch to the cold, youknow.
I it's bad.
I would say that's probably themost noticeable one is uh my
lack of strength to the cold.
If it's windy, forget about it,dude.
Forget about it.

SPEAKER_01 (06:43):
Yeah, so yeah, I didn't get to send you the
traditional uh email to get youprepped for them for the
episode, which is um we have noplans.

SPEAKER_04 (06:55):
I was gonna say, wait a second, we don't have
shit.
What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
Yeah, no, I've been on the email 30 episodes of the
show.
The email is basically this epthis thing is unscripted.
We go into it with no idea.
Swearing is okay, making fun ofeach other is encouraged.
Have fun.

SPEAKER_04 (07:12):
Can I say there's like a piece that is like I I
enjoy that like where we can asa podcast where we can be more
popular than other podcasts thathave their shit together, right?
Oh, there's like a little pieceof me that's like, yeah, we
don't fucking know Dick.
And yet we seems to do okay.
Like, that's pretty great.
That's pretty great, if you askme.

SPEAKER_03 (07:32):
I mean, I think it shows that you guys know so much
about you know so much.
But sure.

SPEAKER_04 (07:37):
Let's go with that.

SPEAKER_03 (07:38):
That's not the truth, but I like that.
I'm not gonna end that sentence,actually.
I I started talking, but itwasn't gonna sound right when it
came out of my mouth.
But we're just gonna run withthat.
You have so much knowledge thatit just oozes out of you, and
now you guys can just you knowmake innuendos and bullets.
Yeah, the only thing that oozesout of me is just more dick
jokes.
That's pretty much it.

(08:00):
I was gonna leave, I was gonnasay a dick joke, but I feel like
I was gonna come on too strong.
So maybe maybe in about 10minutes.
We'll see.

SPEAKER_05 (08:06):
Last night at dinner, I forget what the
context was, but I had said,huh, I thought this cum was
supposed to make my pineappletaste better.
So that's uh that's where we'reat here.

SPEAKER_04 (08:18):
I need to get a pineapple.

SPEAKER_05 (08:20):
That's the end of the show.

SPEAKER_04 (08:21):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Don't be a worse.
What are you trying to make?
I've been trying to make fuckingthis like tapache forever, which
is like you take thesepineapples and you take the rind
and then you ferment them withlike cinnamon and shit.
And I'm gonna tell you, I don'tunderstand fermentation.
I don't like it.
Because I feel like if I leavesomething on my counter, it
should go moldy and it should bebad and poison.

(08:41):
I feel like it should be poison.
And I don't like that it's notpoison and that somehow the
fermentation saves it.
I don't like that bothers me.

SPEAKER_03 (08:49):
Yeah, when when people talk about like their
sourdough starters being alive.
Sit in there.
Like, what do you fucking mean?
It's alive.
What the fuck do I want to eatthis?
And uh, what is it called?
Um, kombucha.
Like the process of making allthat with like the I don't know.
I saw it's kombucha vegan.
Is it?
Isn't it?

(09:10):
I would have guessed it is.

SPEAKER_01 (09:11):
I just bacteria is because it's it's made with
living bacteria.

SPEAKER_04 (09:17):
Yeah, no, all plants are living, bro.
They still eat plants.

SPEAKER_03 (09:21):
Kombucha is generally the sentient or
whatever.
Google's AI search.
I gotta turn that shit off.
Okay, it is it is.
You can turn that off?

SPEAKER_04 (09:30):
I didn't even know that was possible.
I thought we just had to livewith our robot or rewards.
Fuck that, bro.

SPEAKER_05 (09:34):
You say that as the Roomba comes and eats it your
body.
Oh, that fucking room.

SPEAKER_04 (09:38):
I we haven't really we've turned it on once since
then, and I'm like thankful.
I don't like the room.

SPEAKER_03 (09:43):
I have I have a way too expensive.
He's got a one fucking leg rightnow.
I spent way too much money onthat for that to kill me.

SPEAKER_04 (09:50):
It's docking it.
Docking, that's a word what it'sdoing right now.

SPEAKER_05 (09:54):
It's docking.
Docking.
It's docking.

SPEAKER_04 (09:57):
But like you leave something on your counter, like
it should go moldy, and I hatethat it doesn't.
I don't like that.
So yeah, I gotta figure thatshit out because and I gotta get
over my like fear of that andactually like make it and drink
it, weird shit, or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 (10:10):
Speaking of fears of food, no, this is a topic that
you touch on quite a bit becauseyou and I share a very similar
mentality around weight loss andmindset and everything.
Tell everybody kind of how youapproach this thing differently
than some other people do in ourspace.
The weight loss conversation.

SPEAKER_03 (10:28):
It's it's it's it's not too complex of a strategy.
I mean, I just I like food alot, and I didn't want to find
ways to stop eating the foodsthat I really like a lot, so I
just found food swaps to where Icould still eat for a family of
seven quantity-wise, but thecalories weren't matching there
anymore.
I'm six foot four and I was 300pounds in high school, so I had

(10:51):
the I mean, I had like I said, Iwould eat for a family of seven
on a normal basis.
So for me, it was what foodswaps can I make, what
adjustments can I make to whereI could still have high volume
meals, but once I discovered themagic of fiber and protein and
whole foods and nutrientdensity, it got a lot easier.
But that's that's kind of how Ilike to approach it is I can
have anything I want, but if Imake that, you know, if I follow

(11:14):
the 80-20 rule, and then the 80%is mostly high volume foods and
using the food swaps, and youknow, you know, I I don't really
like to talk about the fact thatI insert aspartame into certain
crevices into my body, butoutside of that, it's been
pretty easy.

SPEAKER_04 (11:29):
So when you're having food swaps, are you
talking like, oh shit, I used tolike like lasagna, so now I make
it with cottage cheese and thatsort of shit?
Or like what are we talkingabout?
I actually just like sniff awatermelon rind, and it usually
does the trick.
Yeah.
So you just add it, are you justadding it more like whole food?
Are you just adding it like, ohshit, I'm eat so many potatoes
and watermelon and celery andshit?

(11:49):
Like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_03 (11:50):
It's not anything too ridiculous.
It's it's mostly like if thereis a lower calorie sugar fat
carb version of a food that youthat already exists, like give
it a try.
And I always tell my clients,it's like if you don't like it,
don't get married to it.
You know, like fat-free cheesesucks.
Like reduced fat cheese is good.
But fat-free, unless you meltit.

(12:11):
I fat-free cheese is acceptablewhen you melt it.
I have found that.
So I I could I can tolerate itthen.
But when it comes to like foodswaps, it's the very basic
stuff, like Coke for Coke Zero,right?
Or going for a coffee creamer,low-fat coffee creamer, uh bread
for keto bread, uh, littlethings like that, but then also
finding replacements for some ofthe staple foods, right?

(12:32):
Like you mentioned potatoes.
I just told the client earlierthis day or earlier this morning
on a call.
I was like, let's let's lowerthe pasta and replace some of
that with potatoes.
It's gonna be lower calorie,higher fiber, more satiety
overall.
I'm big on sweet potatoes, verybullish on sweet potatoes, one
of the most underrated foods forThanksgiving.
Um so it's largely look aroundgrocery shopping or the grocery

(12:54):
store, I guess, and and and findthe stuff that's lower, give it
a try, check the food label, andthen but also you know,
incorporate some of the morenutrient-dense stuff and when
it's can not impossible and it'sactually convenient for you.

SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Am I the only one that thought he was gonna say
coke for cocaine?

SPEAKER_03 (13:11):
Cocaine will do the trick.
That'll do it real fast.
That's a great, great diet tip.

SPEAKER_05 (13:16):
That is your macros on Coke, okay?

SPEAKER_03 (13:20):
I think it's like alcohol.
I think it's seven calories pergram.
Oh boy.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (13:25):
Man, that line was 430 calories.

SPEAKER_03 (13:29):
But it does it all, it all equals out with how much
you move afterwards, though.
Yeah, you know, like the activecalorie burn, it actually
skyrockets your metabolic rate,so it doesn't even it all
cancels out.

SPEAKER_04 (13:39):
So old like fat burners did work.
Like before we got all like, oh,people shouldn't die and
whatever.
Like the what you could takebefore was it would just like
jack up your temperature likecrazy.
Because, like, you know, that'swhat my calories are was heat.
They were just like, let's justfucking get rid of some heat
through your body, and peoplestarted taking like too many of
them and ruined it for the restof us.

(13:59):
And now now you can you can'tget any of the fat burners.

SPEAKER_01 (14:02):
Are you telling me thermodynamics has something to
do with heat?

SPEAKER_04 (14:07):
I don't I'm not telling anyone anything because
I don't know anything for sure.
It's all a hard maybe.
It's all hard.

SPEAKER_03 (14:13):
I everything my whole life is yeah, possibly.
Just an asterisk, probablymaybe.

SPEAKER_04 (14:19):
Okay, so what do you think?

SPEAKER_05 (14:23):
No, I was saying speaking of asterisk, have you
ever picked up one of thoseboxes at Walmart of the fat
burners and looked at the backof it and seen all the fine
text?

SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
Yeah, that's a vague.

SPEAKER_05 (14:33):
You don't say like this doesn't actually burn fat,
it just raises your energyexpenditure, which you know,
according to Thermodynamicscreates weight loss.
Like it's just it's basicallysaying this just increases your
energy, which may compel you toexercise, which may lead to a
calorie burn.

SPEAKER_04 (14:50):
It's just caffeine, it's usually just like green tea
extract and shit.
That's what it is.
Yeah, all the good shit isoutlawed now.

SPEAKER_03 (14:58):
I mean, that's really what they should do with
energy drinks, too.
It's just like most of I mean,not all of them, but like for a
lot of them, it's just mainlycaffeine that's gonna get the
main stimulant.
If you're talking aboutpre-workout, obviously with beta
alanine and everything else,it's gonna be different.
But I don't know.
I hate beta ingredients on thosetoo.

SPEAKER_04 (15:12):
Like you're saying though, just like the zero, like
for a lot of the I thinkdrinking your calories is a big
thing for a lot of people,whether it's like the sodas or
the creamers and stuff.
So by just doing little thingslike that, it can it can help a
lot.
But like what are the otherfoods that you're like?
So like you're like potatoes,sweet potatoes, what else are
you yelling at people with?
Yeah, what are you doing?
Like cottage cheese swaps?
Or is it other cottage cheese orlike two?

SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
I'm very very bullish on cottage cheese.
Any sort of not I I am like Igot kind of a really intimate
relationship with non-fatvanilla Greek yogurt.
Um we have a long, a longrunning history together.
It's good.
So I'm yogurt bowl?
Man, I might have one of thosetonight.
That's good.
Dude, frozen bloobs.

SPEAKER_04 (15:53):
Are you a light and fit or are you an oikos?
Are you a generic?

SPEAKER_03 (15:57):
I'm a generic because I'm buying like seven at
a time.
So like I'm not like if I hadthe choice, I would.
I don't know, the light and fitflavors are nice, but I'm if I
I'm gonna go probably oikos inthat debate.
Yeah, but for me, I'm usuallybuying the brand like the store
brand.

SPEAKER_04 (16:14):
And anything natural, I try and not put in my
body.
Right.
I mean, why would you?
That's the problem.
It's very artificial as much aspossible.

SPEAKER_05 (16:22):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (16:23):
That's why I like Lake and Fit super low.

SPEAKER_05 (16:26):
He gets air imported from YMCA and pumped into his
house.
Oh my god.
He likes the smell of gym matsand cable grease.

SPEAKER_04 (16:35):
And that's why I go to Subway because the bread is
made of yoga mats.

SPEAKER_03 (16:38):
Hell yeah.
I actually, before I hopped onhere, I took my girlfriend on a
date and we got hot chocolates,and then there's a Jimmy John's
next door.
And I'm like, do you want to goget some day old bread?
And then we shared a loaf of dayold Jimmy John's bread.
She's really easy to please.
It's nice.
Did you start at either end andwork your way in?
Uh no, we just kind of like ateit like a monster uh and just

(16:59):
swapped it back and forth likepast it like a joint.
So it was pretty chill.
And really romantic, dude.
It was really romantic.
We were walking down the street,like nobody else was out there.
It was great.
Uh food swaps, though.
Food swaps.
Um, I'm gonna say some of myfavorite all time, any sort of
non-fat vanilla Greek yogurt.
Uh, I really like to pair thatwith um any breakfast cereal.

(17:20):
I'm a huge breakfast cereal kid.
I ate a lot of that as a kid.
Um, so instead of having cerealwith milk, I'll have cereal with
non-fat vanilla Greek yogurt,kind of create a parfait
situation if I'm having acraving for Reese's puffs, cocoa
pebbles, fruity pebbles,cinnamon toast crunch.
We can talk about cereals in asecond, maybe.
Um I'm really big on powderedpeanut butter over peanut
butter, obviously, having thenormal thing.

(17:41):
Like you, I think, Liam, youmade a video not too long ago,
like about just a normal PBJ noteven being too terrible for you.
Oh no, clearly jelly is great.
Exactly.
That's it's one of my favoritesfor sure.

SPEAKER_04 (17:51):
But yeah, like as Donkey would say, parfait.
Everybody loves parfaits.
Like fucking that's but when youget them at like you know, like
a fucking cafeteria or whatever,like they, you know, they bump
lots of added sugar and stufflike that.
So make your own.
Like you say, make it you makeswabs, make it your own.
I love like fuckingstrawberries, like you like any
sort of berry, those crazy.
And I'm telling you, fro it'sfrozen's better.

(18:12):
Frozen's better when you'redoing like a yogurt bowl.
It is like you're supposed toget fresh, and it's like not no,
no, it tastes like just it getsmushy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:20):
It gets watery, it gets mushy, and then if there's
god forbid, there's one bad onein there, and then it fucks the
whole bowl.
There's like one little moldyspot on one, and you're just
like, I'm gonna just puke now.

SPEAKER_04 (18:31):
The frozen wild blueberries.
I don't know if you got on thatgame yet, but that shit's good.
Like, I I I like those for mythat's I always make sure I have
those in the freezer because Ijust heat those up for like a
minute in the microwave, thenwith the yogurt, then with the
granola or like cereal orwhatever it is.
I get honey nut tasty hosebecause I don't want to pay for
honey nut Cheerios.
We go with a Hannaford, they'retastios, and so it's like two

(18:53):
bucks for like a family-sizedbag.
And that's my fucking problemwith the protein cereals, not to
get on that shit, but it's like,oh, I'll pay$10 for four
servings as opposed to I pay twodollars for like 30 servings of
the other one and just getprotein literally anywhere else.
I'll go with that.
Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03 (19:09):
Well, you were saying the parfaits thing.
It's like, yeah, you can go to acafeteria and get a bunch of
added sugars, or you can go to amillennial joint owned by some
30-year-old with a fuckingfedora on that's gonna charge me
$70,$17 for four ounces ofyogurt and granola with like a
three blueberries on it.
Like, I'm not doing that either.
But it is on a pretty good smallbusiness, but what the fuck?
You know, I'm not doing thateither.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (19:29):
Put a scoop of protein powder in your cereal
and call it a day.

SPEAKER_03 (19:33):
Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_04 (19:33):
Like, why not just do that?

SPEAKER_03 (19:34):
Protein ice cream is is my favorite, though.
That's how I can.

SPEAKER_04 (19:38):
You know what I don't like though is when they
put the protein powder inyogurt.
Like, yours already protein.
I don't need to fucking putprotein powder in my yogurt.
That I just have more yogurt.
Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
What if you want protein into protein?

SPEAKER_04 (19:51):
Exactly.
Why am I why am I doing this tomyself?
What the hell?
Might as well just get an enemaof it at this point.
This is ridiculous.
I mean you can pack thisgoddamn.

SPEAKER_05 (19:59):
You could put like 70 grams of protein into a mug
and eat it like like sweetconcrete, and you're not hungry
for six days.

SPEAKER_04 (20:07):
I guess you won't be hungry, but you'll also be like,
why am I doing this?
I can't just do that.

SPEAKER_03 (20:12):
You would clear a room in about five minutes as
entering it, though.
The the protein parts.

SPEAKER_04 (20:18):
Oh, yeah, that too.
But like the protein peanut,like the powdered peanut butter,
like that's the problem ispeople will put like mix it with
water and then make peanutbutter and use it like for
bread.
I'm like, that tastes like shit.
No, no, no, no.
You put it in shakes, you put itin yogurt, you put it in stuff
like that, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 (20:32):
With yogurt, it's the best, in my opinion.
I think that's the best use ofit for sure.
If I'm doing protein ice cream,I'll sprinkle some of it dry on
top at the end.
That's a great way to do it too.
Um, for anyone that does likedoing it with water though, add
a small pinch of salt.
It makes it feel a little lessfake compared to the real thing.
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (20:50):
It tastes sad.
It tastes if you ask me whattastes sad, powdered peanut
butter mixed with water, that islike the saddest thing.
It's a ghost of a ghost ofpeanut butter.

SPEAKER_05 (21:01):
You know what you use instead?
Sugar-free maple syrup.

SPEAKER_04 (21:04):
People say it feels sad.
I disagree syrup.
I disagree.
I like it on paper.
It's still so sad.
I reckon it's not meant to be.

SPEAKER_03 (21:15):
I just don't like the taste.
I just don't like the tastecombination of the maple syrup
with the peanut butter.
I don't know why.

SPEAKER_04 (21:20):
It's so like over, it's sickeningly sweet because
the maple syrup is well, it'snot even maple syrup, it's like
pancake syrup or whatever.
It's just like so sweet.
No.

SPEAKER_05 (21:28):
I've got the taste palate of a dog.
It's uh that's just where I'mat.

SPEAKER_03 (21:31):
Liam, you have to ignore the sweetness and
optimize for the extraartificial sweeteners that are
coming with it, though.
Think about all the artificialsweeteners.

SPEAKER_05 (21:40):
Yeah, Liam, you could make it less real.

SPEAKER_04 (21:44):
Rather just take my IV uh aspertame trip.
But walled and harms, peanutbutter, zero calories.

SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
I brought Mike uh a thing of real Canadian maple
syrup, and apparently it was awaste on him because he can't
taste the difference anyway.

SPEAKER_04 (21:59):
Between that and like pancake syrup, or just like
between that and like maplesyrup, other maple syrup inside
the store.
Wait, are you so no, I'mconfused.
Are you saying you taste thatthe same as like pancake syrup?
Like fucking Mrs.
Buttersworth?
Well, let's get Mike's livereview here.
This is really good.
This really good.

(22:20):
Yeah, fucking real maple syrupis delicious.

SPEAKER_05 (22:23):
Yeah, better than a flask.
You know, there's no alcohol inthis, just um the drug I used to
imbibe in, and that is calories.
And um, it's got a bite to itthat American maple syrups do
not have.

SPEAKER_04 (22:37):
I mean, it better be sharpened.
It takes it takes like 500gallons, or for Rob, that's like
80,000 liters of sap to makethat shit, so it better be good.

SPEAKER_05 (22:48):
They also have to hunt trees to get this stuff.
They've got to hunt and killtrees.
That's why it's not.

SPEAKER_01 (22:58):
Did you see Jacob Foods, the video he put out the
other day with this spaghettisquash?

SPEAKER_04 (23:03):
He was he was chasing a spaghetti squash, just
like Paul Saladino was like, Ohyeah, animal-based pasta, which
is just a spaghetti squash.
Yeah.
You're like, okay, sure.
Yeah, I remember that being athing a while ago.
It's very people, and thenpeople are arguing about it,
like, oh, animal-based meats,you eat some fruits, or you
might have some vegetable.
Like, why are we arguing aboutthis?
This is stupid.
Like, this is the dumbestargument ever.

(23:25):
God damn.

SPEAKER_05 (23:26):
Animal-based is whatever Paul Saladino says it
is.
Anything on a wooden cuttingboard, that's pretty much what I
throw it off.

SPEAKER_04 (23:32):
Speaking of the food swaps, though, like I'm telling
you, like, the wraps and thebread, they've come a long way
with making like the high fiberlike wraps and bread so much
better.
They used to taste horrible, andnow I'm like, this tastes maybe
not exactly like you know, thecounterpart, but pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 (23:48):
Yeah, those are way more widespread.
Like you can find more of them.

SPEAKER_05 (23:52):
Sola bagels, S O L A.
Have you guys had those?

SPEAKER_03 (23:55):
Not yet.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
They're really good.

SPEAKER_05 (23:58):
They're expensive as hell, but they're really good.

SPEAKER_03 (24:00):
It's worth it for a local bagel.

SPEAKER_05 (24:02):
What are the$6 for uh 120 calories?
It's a regular size bagel, butthere's like 30 grams of fiber
in it.
If you're not ready for 30 gramsof fiber, don't get that.

SPEAKER_04 (24:16):
I think it's one bagel.
I think it's more than 30 grams.
I remember it being like 40.
Like 40 plus, because peoplewere like, yo, I'm gonna die on
my toilet.
I'm like, I mean, I'm fine, butmost people can't can't handle
that shit.
Oh, especially.

SPEAKER_01 (24:30):
I can eat two of these in a day.

SPEAKER_05 (24:35):
Yeah, right.
So we've got 140 calories, 30grams of fiber.

SPEAKER_04 (24:40):
Oh, it's okay.
This is 30.

SPEAKER_05 (24:41):
15 grams of protein.

SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
Wow.
Right, exactly.
Like, that's good.
Yeah, you throw some like youget some smoked salmon or
avocado or whatever.
Really good.

SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
But can you make them out of cottage cheese?
Gotta try it.

SPEAKER_04 (24:53):
Listen, cottage cheese on a bagel is good
though.
Like cottage cheese on a bagel.
I'll take some cottage cheese ona bagel.
I'm happy with that.
Or you make like um uh cottage.
No, no, no.
One thing with cottage cheese Ireally like was the pizzas where
you just take like a slice ofsourdough and then you have
tomato sauce, cottage cheese,and then like toppings.
So you do like pepperoni or youpeppers or onions or whatever it
is.
That's good.
Like, I'm I'm down with that.
That I'm happy with that.

(25:14):
That was that was really good.

SPEAKER_05 (25:15):
One of my friends in the uh weight loss space, Macy,
she introduced me, and she'sshe'll be on this podcast at
some point, I think, on one ofour roundtables.
She introduced me to cottagecheese on sourdough bread with
honey and cinnamon.
Yeah, and it's I have one everyday.
It's so good.

SPEAKER_04 (25:33):
That's really good.
I mean, I uh you can add achilly crisp route.
You could go, yeah, like you canyou know there's a ton of stuff
you can do with it.
Uh pistachios, great with it.
Like a little bit of honey,yeah, like all of that stuff.
Yeah, I haven't thought aboutthat.

SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
That's good.

SPEAKER_04 (25:47):
It's really yeah, you just chop some up.
Like, I I think cottage cheeselike on like toast or whatever.
I there's a lot of things youcan do with it.
People are just doing too much.
I'm like, Eni, calm fuck down.
Yeah, I like to use it as like acomplimentary thing, like on the
side with something.
Stop trying to make it intochips, people.
I keep getting tagged in fuckingcottage cheese chips videos.
I've made try to make them somany times and they are burnt or
wet.

(26:07):
There is literally noin-between.
And I'm like, I I I'm done.
I'm done making cottage cheesechips.

SPEAKER_05 (26:13):
Hey, Noah Tanner, why is it that you know so much
about food swaps?
Because uh, it's my job.
And what did your job produceabout food swaps?

SPEAKER_03 (26:22):
Oh, oh, I see where you're going with this.
Yeah, it was clearly pushing yousomewhere.
I have uh I have a list of 300uh low-calorie food swaps.
I've been dishing out like candyfor the last year or so.
Um I don't know where you guysdo.

SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Do you know to Halloween?
Just your kids have actuallycandy.

SPEAKER_03 (26:40):
I feel like you're targeting kids if you hand them
out to specific kids, and that'skind of fucked up.
Well, I only hand it out to thefat ones.

unknown (26:47):
I know.

SPEAKER_04 (26:49):
Oh no.
Let's let's not do it.

SPEAKER_03 (26:51):
We'll just hand them out to every kid.
All the kids right, right.
Everybody can uh absorb moreaspartame.
No, but I uh I have a list, it'sa big Google Drive, uh it's a
Google Slides, I guess, and it's101 slides, and I take 100 of
the most common like fun foods,so pancakes, lasagna, spaghetti,
you know, anything you can thinkof that, you know, anybody like

(27:13):
the fun foods in America,basically.
And uh I gave you three lowercalorie alternatives, whether
those are direct recipe swaps,whether they're basic, like,
hey, just try buying this at thestore, or hey, this isn't gonna
save you on the calories, butit's gonna bump you up 15 grams
of protein.
And I'm not gonna give you like,hey, you're ch you, you know,
you're craving a chocolatesundae, hey, or try a

(27:33):
strawberry.
Like, that's not obviously gonnabe a food swap.
I try to keep them as realisticand keep the taste profiles as
as close as I possibly can.
I do breakfast, lunch, dinner,um, I do snacks, I do
condiments, and it's got 101slides total and 300 swaps in
all totality.
And it's been a pretty usefultool for a while.

(27:54):
So that is a lot of swaps.

SPEAKER_04 (27:55):
That's a lot of swaps.
It took me a long time.
Don't ask me give me more of thefavorite ones.
What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 (28:01):
More of the favorites.
Uh more than one I haven'talready said.
I'm really bullish on sugar-freepudding.
Um, I really like chocolate,sugar-free chocolate pudding.
Uh, I'm a really big fan of likethe we were talking about
earlier with the wraps, but likeum like flatbreads, like lavish
breads, different things likethat.
Those are really good.
Those are awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (28:19):
Those are awesome shit.

SPEAKER_03 (28:20):
That's really good.
Keto bread, I think I said thatearlier, but keto bread, you
can't go without saying the ketobread.
Um, sugar-free syrup is reallysolid.
Uh big fan of like thecondiments, so um Bolt House
Farms dressings, those aregreat.

SPEAKER_04 (28:33):
Dude, I've been tracing their fucking like
getting a sponsorship by themfor a long time.
Those fucking things.
Oh, that'd be sick.
I've been trying to get theirthey make good ass dressings,
like 40 countries.

SPEAKER_03 (28:41):
They really do just for serving.
Dude, it's it's nuts.
That they have ranch, bluecheese, Caesar, like five
different yeah, it's allyogurt-based.
When I tell my clients, I'mlike, slow the roll.
I promise you, it soundsdisgusting.
I wouldn't steer you wrong.
Yeah.
I'm in Michigan, and we takeranch like a religion over here.
So I I I I only recommend it ifI like it.

(29:01):
Um, those are good.
Papa G Hughes, barbecue sauce.
Gotta shout out G Hughes, butonly barbecue sauce because some
of those other sauces are highin calories.

SPEAKER_04 (29:12):
Well, yeah, that's because if you take like, what
is it, you know, like ThousandIsland dressing or something
that's mostly fat, and youremove two grams of sugar, it's
not gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_03 (29:22):
Well, I tried uh what was it?
It was like a it was like aPolynesian adjacent sort of like
situation, and it was the wrongconsistency.
I don't know what consistencythey were going for, but it
wasn't correct.

SPEAKER_04 (29:35):
It was very sticky, but not in like sauce is
something you could do prettywell, but there's a lot of the
other ones that are oh man, ifwhen you go like full chemical,
like that's when you get to theum what is the the what's the
one brand that has like zerocalories and everything?
Walden.
It's dangerous.
I tried the peanut butter once.
I'd oh no.

(29:57):
Peanut butter shouldn't be zerocalories.
Like, come on.
I I love that they're it's forthe sake of trying, it's fun,
but don't buy those.
Don't I'm glad you're gonna beable to do that.
Have you ever tried the WaldenFarms jelly?
Jelly.

SPEAKER_05 (30:12):
Have you tried the Walden Farm's zero calorie
jelly?
It is the strangest substanceI've ever Had in my kitchen.

SPEAKER_04 (30:20):
They must buy like gums, it's like Xanthem gum by
like fucking truckload.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (30:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (30:30):
Rob, I have a Canadian question for you.
Uh uh.

SPEAKER_03 (30:33):
They're they usually have about one gun instead of
30.

SPEAKER_05 (30:36):
Do you guys get TV up there?

SPEAKER_03 (30:38):
Um no, I have a handful of Canadian clients, and
it seems like the some of theswaps that we were talking about
here, some of the differentversions and some of the
different lower calorie or lowerfat sugar options aren't as uh
available in Canada.
So, what what are your thoughtson some of the stuff that we're
talking about here?

SPEAKER_01 (30:56):
Half of it, I don't know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05 (30:57):
I brought Rob into a Bucky's this week.
Oh he he walked around like hewas going through a zoo of space
animals.

SPEAKER_04 (31:05):
What's this?
Just like he's fucking full on anightmare before Christmas.
What's this?
What's this?

SPEAKER_01 (31:10):
Yeah, that was that was it.

SPEAKER_04 (31:11):
Yeah, what's this?

SPEAKER_03 (31:13):
What stood out the most?
Cereal.

SPEAKER_01 (31:16):
Uh just the uh apparently I I I was amazed at
the sheer size of it, yetapparently it was a small one.

SPEAKER_05 (31:23):
The the size of the Buckeys he's talking about.
For those of you that don't knowwhat Bucky's is, it's like they
turned a gas station into atown.
Okay.
It's it's just it's like a mallnext to two rows of gas pumps,
about a hundred on either side.

SPEAKER_03 (31:41):
I don't think it's basically like uh like a truck
stop on steroids, right?

SPEAKER_05 (31:45):
You can go in there and you can buy lawn ornaments,
you can buy a grill, you can buyknives, you there you and then
you can have like uh freshbrisket at any hour of the day.
Um and I man, it's it's it'sit's an experience that Canadian
look, we get buckies, Canadiansget health care.

(32:05):
That's the deal.
Right.
So right Rob's walking through,and there's like you know, eight
different flavors of MountainDew that he hasn't seen before
and like colors that they don'texport there.
And I've got pictures of himwandering around like you
released an ape in New YorkCity, just looking up at the
billboards, and then like apicture of a tree pops up and he

(32:25):
starts screaming.
Like nothing.
I did climb a lot of trees.
He did.
There's a picture of him in atree.
But yeah, it's uh he'd never hada Mountain Dew Baja Blast
before.
I have a video of him trying it.

SPEAKER_01 (32:41):
What'd you rate it?
Oh, what did I rate it?
I rated it um oh god, what did Isay?
It was like you said it wasgood.
It was more like a Baja Cruisethan a blast.

SPEAKER_05 (32:50):
He said he couldn't identify what the flavor is, but
that it was good.

SPEAKER_04 (32:54):
We don't know what any of the flavors are of the
food we eat is colors.
We call them colors.

SPEAKER_01 (32:59):
I was expecting something more, you know,
popping in my mouth forsomething called a blast, and it
was just kind of like smooth.
So I called it a Baja Cruise.
I tried to bring it in my houseto have some pop and blast in
your mouth, but never mind.
But yeah, as for the Canadianswabs, um sometimes you can find
those things just under adifferent brand.

(33:22):
And you know, so you're lookingfor a certain brand and do they
have low-colour bread up andsell bread?
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (33:29):
Okay, yeah, okay, that's good.

SPEAKER_01 (33:30):
Yeah, we have we have bread.
Yep.

unknown (33:32):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (33:34):
Yep, yep, we got it.

SPEAKER_03 (33:35):
No way.
I'm not buying it.

SPEAKER_01 (33:37):
Um you have sugar-free pancake syrup, uh, or
do they not allow you to sell itin Facebook?
Oh, fuck.
That's that's illegal up here,bud.

SPEAKER_04 (33:46):
That's what I was wondering.
It's probably gotta be illegal.

SPEAKER_05 (33:48):
Oh, yeah, bud.
Did they replace everything withmaple syrup?
Like, honey, maple syrup,bagels, maple syrup.
You want a cookie, you know, agood replacer for brisket, maple
syrup.

SPEAKER_01 (33:59):
See, you guys had these this entire wall of Oreos,
and I was like, wait, where'sthe maple syrup Oreos?

SPEAKER_03 (34:06):
Oh, why hasn't that not been a thing yet?
What it is, it is a thing here.
Yeah, surprising.

SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
It's in Canada.
We don't have it.
We've got coffee Oreos, we'vehad uh Sour Patch Kids Oreos.
We don't have the maples.
We have Sour Patch Kid Oreos.
I I don't know if they're stillaround, but they had them.

SPEAKER_04 (34:26):
We had Swedish fish Oreos.

SPEAKER_05 (34:27):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I saw them.
We also had Swedish fish Oreos.
Yeah, you and I we missed ourday.
We should have gotten skinnylike now.
I guess we could have tried allthe stuff.
Because here's the thing I wantto try all these things, but I
don't want to buy 36 Swedishfish Oreos.
I want one.
Yeah, but like give me afour-pack or something so I
don't feel like I'm gonna beable to do it.

SPEAKER_03 (34:48):
Especially most of the really out there flavors,
too.
Yeah, like for the really outthere flavors, get like a
four-pack so then you can likeshare with a friend when you
pick up gas or something.

SPEAKER_04 (34:57):
With the family size, you open that shit and
then you don't have very longbefore it goes steel, even with
their like resaleabletechnology.
Like, no, it doesn't work, likeit still goes stale.
So like eating a bottom of 100or something.

SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
It's almost like air got in when you opened it.

SPEAKER_04 (35:13):
What the hell?
Just give me like a few likesmall pack.
That's my thing.
It's like in America, like it'sjust the portion sizes are wild.
I went to a local uh ice creamplace that just opened up.
I was like, what's the smallestsize you have to like kitty?
And I get this thing and I'mlike, what kid is eating this?
Like, it's still like a lot ofice cream.
I'm like, I need some, I needhalf of kitty.

(35:35):
I need whatever that is.
Like, I don't need this much icecream.
And I'm looking at they havelike triple, quadruple scoop.
I'm like, this is what this is2,000 calories worth of ice
cream.
Who is ordering this?
Like the like the Dairy QueenBlizzards and shit.
It's like legitimately yourentire day in one shake.
Like, that's the I just can't wecan have the things, can we just

(35:57):
make them a little bit morereasonable in the proportions?
That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 (36:01):
Calories aside, completely aside, and this is
something I teach my clients andI I talk about online very
often.
My goal is to feel good.
Calories come second.
So it yeah, like it I I eat icecream, I'm not worried about the
calories.
What I'm worried about is couldI go for a walk after this and
not regret it?
Like it's so, and usually thatmeans I don't need two pints of

(36:24):
Ben and Jerry's like I used to.
I'm good with a a portion of it.
And there are some people outthere who are still associating
amounts with enjoyment.
And trust me, I get it.
Like we've talked about that alot here and how that's not the
case.
Um, but it's it it feels likeit's not gonna be enough when
you have a little bit.
Okay.
But have four of those andyou're gonna be sick.

SPEAKER_04 (36:47):
Yeah.
That's exactly like the littleBen and Jerry's, the tiny pints.
Have you seen these?
They sell them in like the tinysingle, they're like 200
calories.
This is per like this this isperfect.
I'd eat this.
This is like 200 calories worthof ice cream.
Great.
Um but like the you know, youget a pint and you eat like half
of it.

SPEAKER_03 (37:03):
It's just the the portion sizes are just a lot,
especially for Ben and Jerry'stoo, because it's always so
decadent and rich, and it's likeyou any pick any flavor, it's
like 1100 calories for a pint.

SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
I mean, it's good, but like you go to like
restaurants like Arby's, it'slike we slap our meat so hard in
your face you fall over.
I'm like, I don't need thismuch.
This is too much.
Like these they are alwaystrying to just show like the
portion sizes, you know, the theWendy's quadruple bacon eater.
God damn.
Like, this is it it it's that'sthat's my thing with this.

(37:36):
Is it's just the portion size,it's it's wild to me.

SPEAKER_05 (37:39):
So the odds are stacked against you if you want
to lose weight in terms of likeordering out because it's they
don't even advertise on how goodthe thing is, they just
advertise on how much they'relike, here you go.
It's it's it's two pounds offood.
Is it any good?
Exactly.
It's two pounds of food.

SPEAKER_04 (37:55):
It's mediocre food, but if we stack it high enough,
you'll think it's good.
Like come over to fuckingbuffets and shit.
Like date.

SPEAKER_03 (38:02):
I think it's just like the tick to tick
tokification of restaurants andfast food because it's just like
instant dopamine, instantdopamine, fast, fast, fast.
We want more and more and moreall the time.
But it's it's instantgratification.
So it's like, hey, remember thatburger you've been buying for
the last 20 years in thedrive-thru?
We added six of them into onejust because you think you want

(38:22):
more all the time.
Just it and and you know, youknow, capitalism, money, all
that other shit, too, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 (38:28):
The burgers this thick.

SPEAKER_03 (38:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (38:31):
Like stop making burgers tall.
If you want to make it bigger,make them wide.
Yeah, they gotta be the becausehow would how do you bite a
triple bacon in this thick?
They give it to you in a diaper.
It's I can't get my jaw aroundthis thing.
I've got to un unhinge.

SPEAKER_04 (38:48):
Like it's like where you see them on the the
billboards.
I'm like, that looks gross.
Like, that looks like I don'twant to eat that.
And it's just like cheese andbacon falling now.
I'm like, I that's too much.
I don't want to.

SPEAKER_03 (38:59):
The animals had to die for this.

SPEAKER_04 (39:00):
Okay, let's calm it, let's bring it in a little bit
here.
So I think that's just just takewhat you like, but just make the
portion size a little bit morereasonable.
Definitely, definitely, and thenhave some eat some fucking
carrots, some bowl house or someshit.
That's not the ranch.

SPEAKER_03 (39:17):
Start a factory farming the carrots.

SPEAKER_05 (39:19):
Let's talk about ranch powder, real quick,
because every time I mentionranch powder, there's someone
out there who is hearing aboutit for the first time.

SPEAKER_04 (39:25):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (39:26):
Ranch powder.
It exists.

SPEAKER_04 (39:28):
You know what you blend it with?

SPEAKER_05 (39:29):
Cottage cheese.

SPEAKER_04 (39:30):
There you go.
You got blended.

SPEAKER_05 (39:32):
Cottage cheese could also use non-fat plain Greek
yogurt.
And um, yeah, it's uh also youcan add some other spices to it.
You add a little bit of lemonjuice in there, some garlic
powder.
You can wake the flavor up alittle bit, and it's it uh you
can kill a whole bowl of ranchand be super full at the end of
it, which with regular ranch andchips, you don't get there.

SPEAKER_01 (39:55):
Should I send you guys some all-dressed flavoring
that you can throw in yourcottage cheese?

SPEAKER_04 (39:59):
The whole dress is good.
I've tried that.
That is good.

SPEAKER_05 (40:03):
Or those vodka sauce chips, those were really good.
The ones you brought to myplace, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (40:09):
Or Mandy's place.
Yeah, you guys did yourin-person meet and greet.
And Mike, before we startedrecording, you said it was like
one of the coolest experiencesyou've ever had.
You guys had talked like I mean,I'm sure you're gonna talk about
it in other pieces of content,but how was that?

SPEAKER_05 (40:23):
It was oh uh, I had texted Liam while I was there,
and I had asked him what thecircumference of his skull was,
uh, because you were the onlyperson who had worn an
inmoderation beanie, and therewere people that wanted to buy
inmoderation beanies, and theywere trying to figure out will
it fit me, and I had never triedone, and if I had, it's I've got
this big ass skull.

(40:44):
So I texted you.
I said, Hey Liam, uh how what isthe circumference of your skull?
Yeah, I think you said 60million nanometers.

SPEAKER_04 (40:54):
That's I'm pretty sure that is what I said, which
is accurate.
You might have to do some maththere, but yeah, I think it's
accurate.

SPEAKER_05 (41:00):
Is it?
Can we put that on record?
Hand the gun.

SPEAKER_04 (41:04):
No fooling.
Semi-confident enough.

SPEAKER_01 (41:07):
Okay, well, I had a great moment there where uh
everybody was talking aboutbeanies and asking me about
beanies, and I was like, Beaniebabies?
What?
What are we he didn't know whata beanie was?
The thing on your head.
Oh, a toke.

unknown (41:19):
A toque.

SPEAKER_05 (41:21):
He was handing out Canadian money too.
He's like, here's a looney, andhere's a toonie.
Here's a baboonie, and it'sreal.
That's I'm not making any ofthat up.

SPEAKER_04 (41:30):
Fucking monopoly money, man.

SPEAKER_05 (41:32):
Oh man.
I've got a Canadian corner in mywallet.
I don't want to get caught.

SPEAKER_01 (41:37):
Oh, you I'm sorry.
You might get you might getdeported for having Canadian
money.
Well, it's a good thing thispodcast doesn't air anywhere.
Exactly.
They'll never find me.
So, no, what could you startedon your weight loss journey?

SPEAKER_03 (41:49):
That's a great question.
Uh uh, it was COVID, and playingvideo games eight hours a day is
fun until it isn't.
And I had been overweight myentire life, and I simply I took
a progress picture just out ofthe blue one day before I hopped
in the shower, and I was like,oh, this isn't half bad.
I was 310 pounds, and and Ithought I looked slightly better

(42:12):
than normal, and I just randomlydecided to take a progress
picture, which wasn't somethingI typically did.
And then, you know, showerthoughts happen, and you're
like, I gotta lock in.
And and basically what thatconversation looked like was uh
if I can't do it now when I haveevery hour of every day to
myself, I have no bills, I haveno mortgage, I have no job

(42:33):
because it was COVID, everythingwas shut down.
I'm like, I'm never gonna beable to do this if I can't do it
right now.
Um and I didn't know shit aboutfuck, and I just started trying
to.
No, and then I went and boughtmore.
Yeah, yes, absolutely.
I went and uh yeah, smuggledsome more maple syrup up my
pants.
But um, no, what I I I didn'treally know where to start, and

(42:56):
I started with uh way too muchexercise for what my body could
handle, and I just kept doingit.
Uh I started running a bunch uhuntil I almost screwed up my
legs, and then I came up with aworkout regimen.
Started I started following umWill Tennyson on YouTube.
He was probably the firstfitness creator I could I could
attribute.

(43:16):
Like this guy really helped meout.
He's the one that I learned froma calorie deficit, he's the one
where I got some of my basicrecipes from.
He's got a lot of good videos.
He really does.
He's I think he's a reallyunderrated uh creator in the
space, to be honest with you.
I don't he he stays out of thedrama.
He doesn't really uh promoteanything too toxic as far as a
good job, I think, of kind ofthe Mr.

SPEAKER_04 (43:37):
Beasting it for the fitness uh where he's just like
I survived blah blah blah blahblah like the worst chin, the
best channel.
Yeah, he does a really good jobwith the eye-catching, all of
those sort of things.
His thumbnails are very doingthe thumbnails and just like
what the best this, the worstthat.
He does a good job with that,but he also has videos that are

(43:58):
more, yeah, like here's caloriedeficit, here's what to do with
this, here's some recipes.
Like he has those things aswell, which aren't as popular.
But if you're trying to likelose weight and stuff like that,
I think he's got greatinformation.

SPEAKER_03 (44:08):
No, 100%.
I started watching him before hewas too big.
He would like not share asubscriber count, so I can't
tell you when I started, but itwas about a year into his.

SPEAKER_04 (44:25):
I remember that.
That's funny.
That was like what like a whileago.

SPEAKER_03 (44:28):
Like three or four years ago, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (44:30):
Yeah.
Oh, I guess it was maybe onlythree or four.
Yeah, yeah, it was a while.

SPEAKER_03 (44:33):
Well, I started in 2020, and so I was watching him
posted through 2020.
So he probably hit a mill yearsago in 2021-ish.
That's crazy.
2022.
Yeah, I remember that.
But yeah, shout out WillTennyson, man.

SPEAKER_05 (44:45):
When did you start filming your journey on TikTok?
Because if if you started itduring COVID, yeah, I know you
you'd been doing it for a fewyears when I met you.

SPEAKER_03 (44:54):
Yeah, I just kind of started randomly talking about
it because I was pretty proud ofmyself.
45 pounds down, I think.
So it was like late summer 2020.
Um, I didn't, again, no shitabout fuck, but I was just
talking and I wanted to share myjourney and give some tips of
what I was doing.
Um, and I started talking a lotabout you know balance because

(45:16):
that was something I wasstruggling with at the time.
I got very eating disorder-y fora while there.
I was tracking the calories inmy toothpaste there for a
minute, so it got real bad realquick.
I got I took myself to the ER acouple times, um, ended up
tearing my ACL in the processbecause I gave myself low blood
pressure, woke up one morning totalk to walk to the bathroom,
blacked out, came to my kneehurt, tore my ACL in the lamest

(45:40):
way possible.
Wow.
So I tell people I fought a bearinstead.
Um, no, that's perfect.

SPEAKER_04 (45:44):
Yeah, I would have gone with saving something, but
I like that too.
That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (45:48):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I also usually add likeburning building, babies, yeah,
yeah, okay, orphans, all thatother stuff.
So um, but that that was a veryhumbling experience, and that
was kind of a wake-up call.
It's like, I need to chill outhere.
Uh, and so around 80, 90 poundmark, I was able to really start
focusing on like, all right, Ineed to get on to like this
whole food freedom thing.

(46:08):
I need to start bulking andstart eating more weight, eating
more food because I look like afucking skeleton.
Um, and so after that, it was acouple years of uh cut and bulk
cycles.
I then started certifyingmyself, and there was as far as
like TikTok goes, again, it wasnot plan A by any means.
Um, I started posting about it.
I got like a thousand followerson TikTok pretty quick.

(46:31):
I had a couple videos go viral,and I was in a live stream.
This was probably like holidays2020, and I had a girl in my in
my live stream say, Hey, I havean eating disorder and your
videos helped me eat today.
And then that was kind of thefirst like that's cool.
I want more of that.
And so I got certified as a CPT,a couple other nutritional

(46:52):
certifications, and then startedmy coaching business um January
of 23.
So I've been doing it full timeever since.
So it's got about yeah, yeah.
That's good.
That's about it.
That's me.

SPEAKER_04 (47:05):
I wake up like every day for like doing like the
social media thing.
It's a fun job.
It gives you like the cre I feellike just the creative
expression and just like kind ofto do whatever you feel like
doing.
I think it's just so much fun.
I'm super grateful that this islike what I get to do.

SPEAKER_03 (47:20):
I've been really grateful about like the people
I've gotten to meet.
Like you guys are awesome.
I've been able to connect withsome really cool people through
clients.
I got to fly to Orlando and meeta client, I got to fly to Philly
and meet a client.
Like I'm going to Malta in Aprilto for a client who's getting
married.
She lives there.
Um she invited me, uh, mygirlfriend there.
So I'm really, really excitedabout that.

(47:41):
So that's probably the coolestpart of it.

SPEAKER_05 (47:42):
Yeah, yeah.
I hope so.
I got to meet one of yourclients.
I like Bryson.
Oh yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like that's how that's howmuch you've connected with this
community that you've nowbrought them in, and I am
friends with people that youhave helped.
You know, it's uh it's it's areally special thing.

SPEAKER_03 (48:01):
Yeah, yeah.
I'm I I I like the people sideof it.
I'm I'm so so on the content.
Like you got you um you can geta lot of fun out of the content
side of things.
I really like having discussionswith people.
The short form game, I've done alot of different things.
I I I did a bunch of skits backin the day, and that was when
skits were big, and and uh thatgot me up to like a hundred

(48:23):
thousand followers.
They are fun.
It's it's I just wasn't big onscripting, and I also didn't
really know how to run abusiness at the time, so I was
really overwhelmed and burnt outall the time.
But now that I know what I'mdoing, I'm I'm kind of finding
the you know, I'm finding agroove with it as far as like
I've really been going a lotmore on YouTube.
I just like yapping about shiton YouTube because I can provide

(48:44):
nuance because there's none ofthat on short form TikTok
anywhere or Instagram, so it'slimited.

SPEAKER_04 (48:52):
It's a as short form as a there's a balance between
that, just trying to give peoplethe basics of what they need.
But I think most people justneed the basics though.
So I'm like, you know what?
Fuck the nuance.
I don't think you do it.
You don't really need it to getsuper far.
You can just go with the basics,and I think that's pretty much
just what I try and do with myshort form.
I always think the basics.

SPEAKER_03 (49:12):
I said Rob was one of the first fitness creators I
followed on TikTok.
Oh, damn.
Very quick ago.
I can't remember when, but itwas a little bit more.
Now we're bringing you on tounfold.

SPEAKER_01 (49:22):
Yep.
It's okay.
I'll invite you guys all to mywedding.
Except Mike.
He does he refuses to get apassport.

SPEAKER_05 (49:27):
I can't passport?
They won't let me leave thecountry.
I'm too valuable.
They said I'm a nationaltreasure.

SPEAKER_03 (49:33):
Oh I think that's called the I'm not gonna say
that.
Never mind.
Say it.
Say it.
I was gonna say, I think that'scalled the sexual predator
registry.

SPEAKER_05 (49:42):
They want me here?
Shouldn't they want me gone?
Send me away?

SPEAKER_01 (49:46):
I mean, I mean, Trump's not allowed in Canada.
Oh, that's great.
I guess you're safe then.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (49:52):
The thing is, literally whenever he found out,
he probably literally verbatimsaid, It's probably not even
that cool anyway.
I wouldn't even want to gothere.
I can't believe they eventhought.

SPEAKER_03 (50:02):
I can't even believe they thought I would go.
That's good.

SPEAKER_01 (50:05):
I never it was amazing the not to get too
political for a second, but uhit was amazing the first um time
Carney had to meet up meet withTrump, and Kearney had to go to
the US, and uh a lot of yourRepublicans were like, Oh, Trump
is so powerful that Canada camehere, and it's like no, Trump's

(50:26):
not allowed in Canada because heis a felon.

SPEAKER_04 (50:30):
Oh, you gotta spin it, baby.
You gotta make it sound betterfor you.
That's what it's all about withpolitics.

SPEAKER_05 (50:37):
Does each each consecutive felony count as like
a you know a double negative, atriple negative?
Like, is 34 the odd numberthere?
No, it's an even number.
Never mind.

SPEAKER_03 (50:49):
I think it works like the red turtle shells in
Mario Kart, where you can onlyget a certain like they just
kind of multiply, then you justkind of spin around your little
character, and then so you justgot this aura of felonies just
kind of floating around him atall times.

SPEAKER_04 (51:01):
I feel like numbers ever shit.

SPEAKER_05 (51:03):
Let's do an inmoderation special where we
all try to be the first one toget a felony.
Speedrun a felony.
That's a great YouTube title.

SPEAKER_04 (51:11):
Uh I'm I'm gonna go arson.
I want to light things on fire.

SPEAKER_05 (51:15):
I want to do one that doesn't hurt anybody.

SPEAKER_04 (51:18):
Yeah, no, I just but like an abandoned building or
something.
I just burn it down.

SPEAKER_01 (51:21):
List I'm Canadian, so I have to do something
against the G Geneva Convention.

SPEAKER_03 (51:27):
Yep.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (51:28):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (51:28):
History checks out there.

SPEAKER_01 (51:30):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (51:31):
I'm gonna say robbing a big bank, not a credit
union, but a really big bank.
Like a like a chase.
Bank of America or a chase.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (51:39):
Auto theft, stealing a motor vehicle is a felony, and
I've that seems to be the leastawful uh on this list.
I I'll give the car back.
I'm just taking it for a ride.
You've been playing too muchGrand Theft Auto.

SPEAKER_03 (51:51):
I was about to say, yeah, just role-playing, just
DC.

SPEAKER_04 (51:55):
Mike needs a gaming station, then.
That's pretty much all Mike.

SPEAKER_05 (51:57):
Because the other ones are like sort of mood
killers, like homicide, yeah,assault.
Yeah.
Just does it's it's gonna killthe mood.

SPEAKER_04 (52:06):
I feel like robbing something, burning something
down, like you know, that's notit's not so bad.

SPEAKER_03 (52:12):
I had multiple instances.
I had both of my I had my weused to live really out in the
country, and I only had twoneighbors, and they both had
shit catch on fire within amonth span.
In the winter of Michigan, I wasvery suspicious about that.
There was an arsonist justfloating around the deep woods
of rural southwest Michigan.

SPEAKER_05 (52:33):
You don't know everyone else was suspicious of
you.
You're the only house thatdoesn't burn?

SPEAKER_03 (52:39):
Yeah.
Well, we were the first on thescene, bro.
Like well, the first time it wasapparently a breaker box that
blew, and the guy's chicken coopburned down, and we saw the
flame, and my dad and I run overthere.
My dad busts down the door.
He goes, This guy's name wasJeff.
It's like, Jeff, are you here?
Like, what you're trying tofigure out where Jeff's at.
Jeff was asleep.

(52:59):
He was just sleeping.
And his chicken coop was onfire.
And then the craziest thing, Idon't know how the breaker box
sparked, but there were liketrails of like fire into the
woods.
So it looked like a gasolinetrail.
I thought somebody was walkingaway with a canister of gas and
it was like leaking.
I'm like, did somebody do this?
And then there was a guest houseon the other side of a pond, our

(53:21):
only other neighbor, mind you,within like a three mile radius,
and the entire guest housecompletely burnt down on New
Year's Eve because they had anuncle staying there and he left
the fireplace going.

SPEAKER_01 (53:34):
Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_03 (53:35):
That was in a 30-day span.
I was scared.
I thought I thought the wholehouse was gonna get burnt down.

SPEAKER_05 (53:41):
And then coincidentally, about a month
later, your dad won the chickencoop championship first place.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (53:48):
Yeah.
He was just trying to get Jeff'srecipe.
That's all.
Damn.
Fun little arson story.
Always good.

SPEAKER_04 (53:54):
So for this contest, together very well.

SPEAKER_05 (53:57):
Do we win when we commit the felony or when we are
convicted?
Because I think the real raceshould be you win if you get
convicted for the felony first.

SPEAKER_04 (54:06):
Oh, but then like it comes down to like what is it,
Prudus Judas or something,whatever it is, like where
you're like they how long ittakes for them to charge you,
and then you gotta get yourcourt date and all that stuff.
And I feel like that's just youknow, that's out of your
control.
I feel like we need to do whenyou commit said arson or what's
we gotta make thumbnails first,though.

SPEAKER_03 (54:25):
We all have to be like a nice YouTuber-y
thumbnail.
Yes.
Will Tennyson style, yeah, speedrunning a felony.

SPEAKER_04 (54:34):
I I committed every felony in a day 24 hours.

SPEAKER_05 (54:39):
For those of you listening here at home, send
your letters of recommendation.
Ooh, sexual assault.
This one's I don't think this isgonna go super well.
This one's gonna be real bad,man.
And then like sound effects andexplosions on the screen.

SPEAKER_04 (54:56):
Oh no.

SPEAKER_05 (54:58):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 (54:59):
This was a bad choice.
Why didn't we just go withstayed in a haunted hotel for
this video?
Yeah.
Why can't we just do the spicychip challenge instead of
committing every felony?

SPEAKER_03 (55:09):
Up next, tax fraud.
See, that one's not that bad.
See, that one's not hurtinganybody other than we.

SPEAKER_02 (55:15):
We should have started with tax fraud.

SPEAKER_03 (55:16):
We really should have.

SPEAKER_02 (55:18):
It's a really pretty, it's a pretty steep
progression.
Like after like three or four,we start with murder.

SPEAKER_04 (55:25):
We slowly work our way back to like tax fraud.

SPEAKER_05 (55:28):
The title is I Put My Unborn Grandchildren in
Generational Debt, and it justcame with his hands on his face.
Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (55:36):
I hope this video does well because I really need
it to.

SPEAKER_03 (55:40):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 (55:42):
Dear Lord.
Please commit your felonies inmoderation.

SPEAKER_05 (55:47):
Like and subscribe to Mr.
Beast because I just stole hisidentity and I am Mr.
Beast.
Is that who your identity wassteal?

SPEAKER_01 (55:54):
You already stole it.
You already stole Scotty's.

SPEAKER_03 (55:57):
I did.

SPEAKER_05 (55:57):
Yeah, briefly.
Fuck V Shred.

SPEAKER_03 (56:00):
You got a pretty good like impression down.
You got the voice down prettywell.
Isn't he selling those hats now?

SPEAKER_05 (56:06):
Yeah, yes.
Uh yes.
This is available somewhere onhis website.
You can get the hat, and I thinka percentage of the proceeds go
to a charity.
Plug for Scotty.

SPEAKER_01 (56:17):
Sounds like Scotty.

SPEAKER_05 (56:17):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (56:18):
That's that's what we did.
Noah, where can everybody findyou?

unknown (56:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (56:23):
You can find me at the biggest fella on Instagram
and on TikTok, and the big fellabrand over on YouTube.
Uh the biggest fella underscoreunderscore technically, but
that's where you can find me.

SPEAKER_01 (56:36):
Also, what the hell?
Does everybody have a Scotty hatbut me?
I don't.
Apparently we get one.
Oh.
Yeah.
I'm more of a apparently we justneed to do uh an episode where
we're all just teamw scotties.

SPEAKER_04 (56:48):
I'm more of a backwards hat guy.
I feel like that'd be a clearthumbnail.

SPEAKER_05 (56:52):
That's what we did uh yesterday for his birthday.
We all um we got where's thatmustache hat?

SPEAKER_01 (56:58):
Need to do it like um Barbie style with with each
of us is uh a differentvariation.
Liam's the cool skater.

SPEAKER_04 (57:07):
Yeah, I'm like a 90s like kind of bully kid, you
know.

SPEAKER_05 (57:11):
But we we uh we all got to the restaurant before
Scotty got there, and we had thehats and the mustache just
waited for him to show up.
So he's uh we've got a video ofthat somewhere, I'm sure people
who posted.
This ripped hair off of my face.
It was very painful.
You probably liked it though.