Dave Asprey: Health Misconceptions and Empowering Personal Change | E136 - In Search Of Excellence

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Randall Kaplan (00:00):
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the conclusion of which that aman should have one orgasm a
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Dave Asprey (00:10):
well, not quite.
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Testosterone drives dopamine,which drives happiness and
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die if you don't ejaculate.

You You're listening to my awesome
interview with Dave Asprey, thefounder of the biohacking
movement. If you haven'tlistened to part one yet, be
sure to check that one outfirst. Now, without further ado,
here's part two of my awesomeinterview with Dave. So let's
move into biohacking. You're theworld's foremost bio hacker, or

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consider such. Let's Yeah. Let'stalk about bulletproof coffee
you had thought about. You hadhad tea in the on your journey
at some point, with butter init. Tell us about kind of how
that transformed seven or eightyears later, you had the blog,
then you had the company, thenyou're the coffee shop. What's
the Sure? What's the transitionthere? And feel free again to to

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get into some of the sciencebefore we get into some of the
details of the steps and theimportance and ingredients of
eye hockey. When

I was on that holy mountain in Tibet, I was having
all kinds of thoughts. I'd run alongevity nonprofit group near
Stanford for six or seven years.
I learned the techniques of antiaging from my elders and people
in their 70s with more energythan me, and I could never get
anyone under 60 to come to ameeting every month we'd have
like, the world's top experts inperson for five bucks, and we're

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two minutes from Google'sheadquarters, and they wouldn't
come so, like, we need arebranding. And I put this
what's the word that's going tomake longevity interesting for
someone who's 19, and it'sbiohacking, and I spent six
weeks coming up with thisdefinition. It's the art and
science of changing theenvironment around you and

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inside of you so you have fullcontrol of your biology. And
that means that if you want tobe the world's fastest person,
control of your biology. Youwant to be calm and not feel
stressed, control of yourbiology, right? You want to have
enough energy at the end of theday to be a parent after your
commute and your job, control ofyour biology. So this is a
uniting element to bringneuroscientists and navy seals
and meditators and all thepeople working on being better

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human beings into a room with acommon goal and different tool
sets.

Marketing is critical to explain what you're
doing in one simple sentencethat many entrepreneurs cannot
do.

It's really hard to do. I have a unique advantage in
that in the days of Exodus, Irealized if I was going to be a
good tech evangelist, I neededto learn how to public speak. So
I started running the web andInternet Engineering program for
UC Santa Cruz extension. So forfive years, I taught classes

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three nights a night, on reallycutting edge tech topics, where
I had an hour to absorb thetopics and make a class that
would last two hours in it, andI learned how to break
information down. I becamereally good at absorbing,
transforming and teaching, andthis was really hard. My
students were all master'sdegree engineers, and I'm
teaching how to do horizontalscaling, how CD and networks,

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like, how can I work, and justhow to think about systems, and
that five years of just hardwork gave me the skills in order
to be able to explain thingsthat are complex. And the
reality is, your body respondsto the world around you in 1000s
of invisible ways, but you canchange the world around you
almost effortlessly, and whenyou do that, how you feel and

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how you show up, how you look,it all changes. And it's funny.
If you talk about longevity, assomeone who's young, living a
long time is a great idea, butit's not number one on your
list. It's, how do I be moreattractive? How do I build my
career? How to make my mark inthe world? Right? You're
interested in sex and power whenyou're young, money, money too,
which is an aspect of power andsex, right? So this is what we

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focus on, and you focus onbuilding your community and your
tribe. Those are going to bemore important than health
unless you're really sick, andthey're more important than
longevity. So old people careabout longevity, right? And
young people don't care abouthealth unless they're sick. So I
stopped talking about this, andI talked about control over your
biology, the ability to show up.
The world the way you want tohave more energy. And one of the
things is I tried every diet.

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I'd been a vegan, I'd been a rawvegan, and it made me really
sick. And I came back fromTibet, I'd quit coffee for five
years because I would always getjittery from it and, like, feel
this weird pressing in my chestand a headache. Well, I had a
cup of coffee and I was like, ohmy god, I love coffee. This is
my life. I'm cured. I'm notallergic anymore. Next, I had

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another cup of coffee and I feltit. Wait a minute. It's not that
I'm sensitive to coffee, it'sthat different. Coffee is
different. And I did this deepdive into coffee and biology and
agricultural science, andrealized the problem we had with
mold and coffee. And when Icould get a mold free coffee, I
felt great. And I remember, Iwas in in Denver giving a

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keynote, I think, at RSA or somebig tech conference, and I drove
across town to get the mostlikely mold free coffee because
I was just dying of jet lag orsomething, and I got moldy
coffee. I don't even rememberwhat I said, like, you know, my
brain was cooked, and I said,I'm gonna have to make my own.
So I did a little blog post. Iwas already blog about bio
hacking. I said, Anyone elsewant to try this lab tested
coffee? I thought maybe themarket size is zero, and I

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thought maybe a few people wouldtry it, and it was a, just a
runaway success, because peoplelike coffee. That doesn't make
them crash,

right? But we gotta go back for a second,
because when I was doing theresearch, I'd never heard of
mold and coffee before. I thinkof black mold is bad for you.
It's in the walls. You have aflood. Mold is in coffee. Turns

out, it's such a problem that most governments
around the world have legallimits for the amount of mold
toxin present in coffee, and thelimit is 10 parts per million.

What's mold?
Exactly? Mold?

So think about penicillin. Tiny little pill has
huge effects on biology.
Penicillin is a mold toxin. Moldmakes penicillin, but it there's
no mold in the penicillin. It'slike a byproduct, or it's what
the mold produces when youferment coffee to get rid of the
coffee cherry, a toxin calledOTA or ochratoxin, a forms

that's the beans are going into. So where are we
in the coffee process? Well,

in the coffee process, when the coffee plant
is stressed, bugs come in. Bugsare the vector for toxic mold
spores. They penetrate thecoffee fruit. Then the coffee
fruit sits in a truck, and itspoils a little bit, and then it
sits for two days in river. Inriver water or for two weeks on
a tarp. And during that time,the mold grows, and the toxin is
infused in the bean. They washaway the fruit, they dry it in
the sun, then they ship it off,and they roast it right? But

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it's the formation of the toxin.
So Europe and Japan and Chinaand most of South America have a
legal limit for this. And I havea former president of the
Specialty Coffee Association oncamera with me at my plantation
in Guatemala, saying, Oh, I wasin Japan when they rejected 1000
shipping containers full ofcoffee because the mold levels
were too high. And I said,What'd you do with it? He said,

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we shipped it to the US becauseit's legal there. There was no
limit in the US for this, andpeople in the coffee industry
got so outraged. We solved thisproblem years ago, like guys,
that's not my lab test showthat's not what I feel when I
drink the coffee. And I havepeople from your industry and
from my industry saying thatit's not true, and I have 36
scientific references showingthat this toxin is present in
most beans, that it survivesroasting and it survives

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brewing, and it's a directmitochondrial toxin. It triggers
cancer in the bladder and in thekidneys. And the easiest way
people can know if there's moldin your coffee, you drink coffee
and you have to pee a littlewell later, and your bladder is
not full. It's a bladder toxin.
Your body's not dumb. It says,get it out. Get it out. So if
you drink coffee and you don'thave to pee, and then you pee

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when your bladder is full, youdidn't have mold in your coffee
and there's isn't that simple.
It is that simple. So theproblem is, a lot of people
drink coffee. They're sensitiveto it like I drink it. I get
indigestion, I get jitters, Iget a crash. I need sugar in my
coffee. And then they drinkbulletproof coffee beans. By the
way, I'm not with Bulletproofanymore. They fired me three or
four years ago. I don't knowwhat testing they do or don't

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do, like I have no connectionwith boulder so say, but when
they drink mold free coffee, newcoffee companies, danger coffee,
they don't get any of thosesymptoms, and they feel really
good. And then let's talk aboutbutter and coffee. But the
molding is a real problem, andgovernments, for some foods have
levels that are allowed. There'sallowable level in corn,

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allowable level in wheat,allowable level in chocolate,
just in the US. We don't protectour people from it. So the
world's worst coffee comes tothe US and we feel jittery and
we drink it. What's

the scientific metric? Is it point oh, six of x
or

10 parts per million of okra toxin A in the
coffee bean, that's a legallimit in most countries, okay?
And it turns out beer and winehas a lot of it as well.

And so what?
What's normal for nonbulletproof or non coffee?
What's normal? It's

all over the map.

Is it a double?
Is

it a triple in the US? Why would you test it?
There's no requirement, and ifyou know about it, then you can
just. Sued later. So theyliterally are not going to test
for mold in coffee, in the US,because there's no reason to do
it. It only creates liabilityme. I test every lot, right? And
I do it on purpose. I want todrink it.

Okay? So we you started bulletproof coffee. Tell
us about the butter in that andtell us about the difference in
the minerals in danger coffee,and what the differences so

bulletproof was an interesting company, because the
market size for functionalcoffee was zero. I created the
industry category, and it grewvery substantially. I also made
collagen into a billion dollarindustry. As the first company,
I really focused on collagen,and then MCT oil also became a
billion dollar industry. I wasthe first guy to bring that out
as a cognitive enhancer. So whatis that for people? MCT. MCT oil

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is an extract of coconut oilthat creates ketones, like a
keto diet, and it makes peoplelose weight, and it really
enhances mental function. Andwhat I did, I've learned about
that because of my work in thelongevity field. The group I
worked with at Silicon ValleyHealth Institute, we were
talking about using coconut oilin order to help your body have
a better metabolism because ofthe ketones present in it,

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because of MCT. So I found a wayto extract just 5% of the
coconut oil that had thesespecial metabolic effects and
the pro cognitive effects, andit's the flavorless oil, and
there's millions of people thatput that in there, some of these
in our coffee to this day. Thatwas my

idea. Okay? So talk about the minerals and
danger coffee and how it differsfrom bulletproof coffee. Okay,
well, um, let's, let's back upfor a second. Um, Trinity
ventures invested $6 million inyour series, a your first round

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of bulletproof coffee. Yep, youended up raising another 30
something million dollars equityand debt under it. Yeah, 90
million, $90 million so venturecapital firms and Trinity
advanced that in Starbucks wasleading, and still is a leading.
CPG, VC firm said, I'm going toinvest in lead $100 million of

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funding in a coffee company.
What? What happened there? Well,how is that possible?

Trinity ventures was a lead investor in speed
arrow, so they knew me fromspeed arrow, and I said, I want
to be an entrepreneur inresidence. I said, Come on in so
I had an office and tell peoplewhat that is, entrepreneur in
residence, adventure firms is agreat gig. They basically say,
we're going to give you abusiness card that says you work
for the firm, and you're goingto spend six months or so

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finding a new company you wantto work with, and we'll probably
back the company, because weknow you and we trust you and we
like you. This is an honor to bean EIR for Trinity. It

will give you a full salary, $250,000 I think
it's usually

about a half salary, right? So I was making,
like 100 years, right? Today, I

think the going rates, yeah, 250 to 300
probably, yeah.

This was back in the day, right? Yeah. Thanks,
bud. This whole inflation thingdrives me insane. So what? What
I did that, and I actuallybecame CTO and co founder of the
first company to get heart ratefrom the wrist, called basis.
And meanwhile, though I'm atTrinity, and I doing putting
coffee in my butter, and one ofthe partners, dannick, who's

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just a great human being, andwas a fantastic board member at
bulletproof, he just soundedgoes, What the hell are you
doing? I see you putting butterin your coffee in the break
room. That's insane. And Iexplained why, and he tried it,
and he kept doing it, and justwhy I really like how I feel on
this. And then it turns out itdidn't work. When I was at
basis, I was there for a littlewhile, and I called up Dan, I

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said, Look, you guys are nevergoing to invest in bulletproof,
because I'm in five differentindustry categories. I have a
coffee shop with this. I've gotbeans and, like, it's not a
typical venture investment. AndI know, because I sit in your
partner meetings enough, but youshould give me, like, 100 grand
personally, because I needinventory dollars for coffee.
Because let me take a look atyour numbers, and they come back

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and said, Here's a milliondollars. This is a venture
capital man. If I send a dealwith the devil, you know, if you
take venture capital money,you're gonna have to sell the
company, and you might losecontrol. So I did as much as I
could to not lose control.
Didn't succeed, obviously, sinceI got fired years later. But
when we announced the funding,Dan wrote an email, or not email
post on Medium, and he said, 60days after I met Dave, and I

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started drinking bulletproofcoffee, I sat down in my BMW at
the end of the day, and Istarted crying. Now, number one,
venture capitalists Don't cry,but he did, and what I didn't
know this about Dan. And hesaid, The reason is that I've
never told anyone. I've sufferedfrom crippling fatigue and brain
fog every day of my adult life,and I never told anyone, and I

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could barely make it through mymeetings every day, and this was
the first day in my adult lifethat I went through the day
without having one energy crash,and I was just. Profoundly
grateful that I could feel thisgood. And I'm like, wow, like,
like, this is true believers,right? And Dan was such a
powerful board member, and hetalked me off the ledge lots of
times when I'd get pissed offabout something, or just, you

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know, give me good advice,because there's a lot I didn't
know. And so eternity invested,because they knew me and because
they felt different when theytried it. And this is a wacky
idea, butter and coffee. Whatthe hell. But the reason I was
putting butter in the coffee isbecause in Tibet at about 18,000
feet elevation, a little to fourfoot tall, Tibetan woman gave me

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yak butter tea, and I wasfeeling like crap. I mean, it's
high altitude. I had chronicfatigue syndrome, and I drank
this yak butter coffee, which isjust yak butter, not yak butter
tea, just yak butter blendedinto tea. I drank it. I felt
really good, like tingly, likeswimming, woke up inside me.
What is going on with this? AndI went back to Silicon Valley,
bought some tea, bought somebutter, blended it up, tastes

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like crap. Didn't work, so itmust be the tea. So I spent
$1,000 in all the different teasto try them. Nothing works. So
then I buy 25 kinds of butter,two kinds of butter worked grass
fed butter. It doesn't work withindustrial butter. And said,
Okay, what if I try coffee? Whatif I get this mold free coffee?
And what if I had the MCT oilfrom the longevity place? And I
ended up over, you know,hundreds of tests with coconut

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milk and all these differentthings, making something that
tasted good and just was rocketfuel for my brain. I give to all
my friends. I'm like, oh my god,what is going on? I really
noticed this. And my first blogpost was, let me introduce you
to biohacking. And second onewas, let me introduce you to the
recipe for bulletproof coffee.
You need mold free beans. Youneed MCT oil. You need some

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grass fed butter. Now I didn'tmake mold free beans yet. The
MCT oil you could buy wasn'tvery pure, and it would make you
get disaster pants. And so Iended up just fixing those
problems and just makingproducts that my followers
wanted and that I wanted, andthat was off to the races.

So, so what are the five big bio hacks? Well,

the biggest one is, the hardest one to explain, is
forgiveness. And forgiveness isnot about telling someone you
forgive them. It's aboutstopping yourself from being
triggered by having negativethoughts about someone else, so
someone's wrong to you inbusiness or in a relationship or
something like that. And justkeep playing it back over and
over. There is an absoluteprocess you can measure
neuroscience to truly forgivesomething, so it no longer costs

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you anything. If you do that, itcreates the most energy, the
most freedom, the mosthappiness, and your body will
change. Your mind will change,and your life will change. It's
just the hardest thing toexplain,

that's years of therapy, by the way.

No you can. You can do it in about five days. In
fact, you can do a lot of it infive days, and you can do it
usually in one hour with atherapist, if using the right
techniques. Not all therapy isthe same. Most people think
forgiveness is a thought. Hasnothing to thinking. Forgiveness
happens all in the chest, andyou can measure it in changes in
brain waves. It's a felt state,not a thought. Most people say

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I've forgiven them. Theyhaven't, and I can measure that
they haven't. So that's a bigone. And the second one is some
sort of high intensity movement,and it's very short duration. If
you want to transform the body,you need to send it a signal
that has to do something hard,and then it needs to also know
that it has enough nourishmentand enough safety that it's
worth investing in becomingstronger. That's why over

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training is so bad for you. Thenext one is cold showers, right?
Some sort of cold exposure. Andthere's two reasons for cold
exposure. One is it helps yourmetabolism, but more
importantly, doing somethingthat hurts for one minute a day,
intentionally and consciously,makes your dopamine sensors
change so that throughout theday, you experience joy and

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motivation with a lot lesseffort. And in my new book, I
call this bicep brief,intentional, conscious exposure
to pain. And humans have beendoing this for 1000s of years,
and cold therapy is just an easyway to do it, and that one
little bit of effort means therest of your day is better. The
next, the next one that is soprofound is neurofeedback.
Throughout history, you want tolearn enlightenment. Go sit in a

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cave for 20 years with a guru,and if you meditate just right,
and they notice, and they raisetheir eyebrow, and then you
notice that, then you gotfeedback. If people come to my
clinic, they do Neurofeedback1000 times a second. The
computer is guiding you, so yourbrain knows what to do to reach
the state that you're seeking,and it's just so much faster. So

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neurofeedback, and if you don'twant your feedback, breath work
is free. It'll also help you getthere. So there's all these
different techniques that workbetter than just meditation. And
I'll just say, hurry up.
Meditate faster, because youdon't have life to live, but you
still want the benefits ofmeditation, you can do it
faster.

So there's a woman in France named Jean Louis
Calment who lived to 122 yearsold. She's the oldest living
person ever. And in your book,you said that we can all live to
180 years old, at least, atleast 100 and I think when
people read that, or hear yousay it, they think, Dave Asprey,
it's crazy. Why are we crazy?
Why are you crazy when you saythat, if. That

woman in France had told people she was gonna live
to 120 when she was 30, theywould have said she was crazy,
and she did it. And here's mydeal, our current best is 120
years about I just want to do50% better than our current best
and have 100 years and AI to doit. And given that I've been in
the longevity field for 25years, and I know the billions

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of dollars being spent, I talkedto the leading longevity
scientists. We are reversingaging. I just reset my central
aging clock in my brain by 20years. I've had gene therapy
that takes nine years off mymeasured age. And there is no
reason that humans can't extendour life by 50% given what we
already have in the bag and thethings that are coming in just

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the next five years. I'm notalone in saying that. Ray
Kurzweil has been saying itforever. He says that we'll
reach aging escape velocity inthe next couple years. In fact,
most of the leading futures willagree with that. Now bottom line
is 180s conservative

that's just hard to process. I mean, I some
people I know get older, mygrandma lived till she was 104
and her she was therecognitively till 101 and then
she was still there a little biteach year. But dementia happens
as you get older and older. Sohow are we going to train the
brain to not have thesescientific occurrences that have

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been occurring for the beginningtime. They

don't occur for everyone. They occur for some
people, and we know why theyoccur. In fact, I wrote a whole
book about this with 1000references. It's called
headstrong, and Alzheimer's isoptional at this point for most
of the causes of it. Dr DaleBredesen has been on my show,
who wrote a book called The Endof Alzheimer's, and he talks
about the causes. You canprevent those things, even

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simple things like micro dosepharmaceutical nicotine. People
who smoke never get Alzheimer's.
They just get cancer. Smoking isbad for you, but if you take
just nicotine in tiny doses,since 1986 in at least 10
studies, reverses or preventsAlzheimer's disease.

It's all talking about Zen, and they like Zen,
yeah, yeah.

So there's a reason you might want to do one to five
milligrams of nicotine a dayover age 40, especially because
it mimics exercise in the body,and it means the brain is much
less likely to get Alzheimer's.
And most of the causes ofdementia, they're well
understood. You're eating a tonof toxins, you're eating a ton
of seed oils. You're not gettingblood flow into the brain. All
of these are manageable. Theydon't even take much work, as

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long as you know they matter.
There are plenty of people intheir 70s and 80s who are
energetic and sharp, and thereason I really know this is
because when I'm 26 and I havechronic fatigue and my brain
doesn't work and I'm tired, Mikeon my board of directors, who's
88 was calling me at 1130 atnight full of energy and more
energy than I had. Like, if Mikecan do it, I can do it. I

think he just has home here, danger, coffee.

Yeah, it's it happens. And the reality is, a
lot of people get the diseasesof aging, but if you look back
historically, not many peoplegot those. These are new. These
are diseases of industrial foodand toxins, and those are
manageable. So

what are the two or three main things that we can
all do to bio hack ourselves orto get increased longevity? I
know you talk about a lot ofdifferent things like you talk
there's a

lot. One of the simplest things is learn how to
get good sleep. Sleep hygiene isreally cool. And the summary of
everything I know about that istotally free sleep with dave.com
best marketing URL of my life,but I just put everything I know
about sleep because I was a guywho got five minutes of deep
sleep. I hated sleep. I wasterrible at it. I get 90 minutes
of deep and 90 minutes of rent,which is more than most college

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students get, and you normallyget worse sleep as you age. I
get that almost every night,even if I travel nine time
zones. Because managing how yousleep is about setting up your
environment so you sleep better.
You measure by your ring andbefore that is to sleep with a
headband on to measure it soit's it's profound that you can
change your sleep that'll makeyou live longer. Sleep is one.
Learn how to be hungry.

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Sometimes intermittent fastingis a proven technique for
increasing longevity. I age ataround 73% the rate of normal
people, because I take thesethings into account. You
probably should get yourminerals and take your
supplements, take your vitaminD. Vitamin d.com is another
thing I created you to take Dand K together. Most people are
profoundly mineral deficient.
The superfoods we're all eatingthat are mostly peasant foods

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remarketed, they suck mineralsout of your bones, and they give
you metabolic weakness unlessyou put minerals back in the
body. These are simple things todo. Eat more high quality animal
protein than your body can use,so that you don't lose muscle
mass and avoid artificial oils.
Avoid artificial colors andflavorings. Artificial oils

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being sunflowers, safflower,soybean, corn, all these plant
oils that no one's ever eaten.
If you do that, you can measurehow old you are. It's a four or
$500 test for the biggest one inthe field. And there are much
more affordable tests that runas. It was like $179 that'll
tell you. How old are youcompared to

your peers? You mentioned fasting a lot of your
career. We could spend one houron this. Yeah. So talk to us in
general, what's healthy, andwhat do you think about these
weight loss drugs like ozempic,okay? Is that the same thing?

They're not the same thing. When you do
intermittent fasting, you arenot eating for about 12, or
sometimes longer. Hours could be12, could be 24, hours, and you
don't need to do it every day,and you don't need to do it the
same way every day. If you had areally stressful day, you
probably don't want to do a longfast, because a fast is a
stress, just like exercise isstress. A lot of people are over
fasting after my first book, soI wrote fast this way to teach

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people how to modulate yourfasting. So at least three days
a week, skip breakfast or skipdinner, and you will do much,
much better. From a longevityperspective. It saves you money
and time, too. If you have ahard time with that, you could
put butter and MCT oil in yourdanger coffee and drink fat at
breakfast, and you're stillfasting. And this angers some
people go but calories, here'sthe deal. Fasting works because

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it keeps your body from raisinginsulin, and it keeps your body,
your body from raising somethingcalled mTOR. And it turns out
fat doesn't affect either,though, so you can have some fat
while you're fasting, and youstill lose weight. You still get
the longevity benefits

fasting the same effect as these new weight loss
drugs like ozempic. What do youfeel about

ozempic? Fasting doesn't work the same way as
ozempic and the new weight lossdrugs. There are different
mechanisms. If I was obese, Iwould absolutely use ozempic
100% because being obese is sodangerous, and I say this as a
300 pound guy at one time inlife. However, if you're an
ozempic, you must eat one gramof animal protein per pound of

(27:38):
body weight that you want to beno matter what, even if you're
not hungry, and you have to liftsomething twice a week. If you
do that, you will not lose yourmuscles and low dose ozempic or
similar drugs, they're profoundlongevity drugs. You want to
live a long time. Micro dosingozempic is a really good
strategy. What most people do,though, is they stop eating,
they take ozempic, they lose alltheir muscle mass, and they lose

(28:00):
some fat, and then they'remetabolically screwed for a long
time. So proper use of ozempicis a miracle drug, just most
people don't eat enough proteinon ozempic Sounds about four
years. About 20 years ago, Itried Neurofeedback for the
first time, so when you hook acomputer up to your brain and
see what your brain is doing,show it to your brain, so your
brain can change itself. AndI've worked with experts all

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over the world. 11 years ago, Iopened 40 years of Zen, which is
in Seattle. It's a five daybrain upgrade program. We make
our own hardware, our ownsoftware, to teach people have
the same brain states as someonewho's done 40 years of daily
meditation practice, and I'vehad about 1500 big
entrepreneurs, family officepeople, celebrities, come
through, and people say it'slike the best plant medicine

(28:44):
ceremony ever had without theplants, because you just get to
go deep and edit the settings inyour operating system so that
everything feels easier whenyou're done, because you're
getting out of your own way. Andthat's been the number one thing
for me that's allowed me to havemultiple companies, to not get
just destroyed when bulletproofdid what it did, all those
things. So building resiliencein humans and the ability to

(29:07):
remain grounded as a leader whenthings are either going your way
or not going your way. So youget to choose your state and
stay there. Neurofeedback is away to do it. It's the most
profound company of all the onesI've

started. We're both serial entrepreneurs, and I
want to talk about what it meansto be successful and what it
takes to be successful. Workethic.

I've shifted my work ethic a lot. When I started
bulletproof, I was VP of cloudsecurity at Trend Micro. I grew
bulletproof to about 20 millionrevenues while I had a day job.
I just worked two jobs left fourhours a night for 18 months
straight, probably not good formy longevity strategy. So be
capable of working really,really hard and be mature enough
to not do it. You have to setaside time for health and

(29:53):
wellness. You have to set asidetime for relationships. I put
them on my calendar. I assume mycalendar says, if you don't set
aside time for those and you'recapable of working really hard
because you care about whatyou're doing, you will work
until you're unhappy and sick orwired to do that as
entrepreneurs. So literally, 90minutes in the morning, that's
my biohacking time. I'm going todo something. I have a whole

(30:13):
upgrade labs at home. I have allthe toys I'm going to do, the
ones that I feel like doingtoday, and then the evenings,
I'm actually not going to take acall after 539 because I have a
date with my girlfriend, right?
And if someone texts me, I'm notgoing to answer it, because I'm
busy, right? And having thediscipline with your time to
have good friends, havecommunity. There's been times my
life where I just never sawfriends, didn't focus on

(30:33):
relationships, because I work,work, work. That's not why
you're working,

isn't it true?
You're supposed to work in your20s and earn in your 30s, and as
you get older, you have familiesand get a little bit more better
work life balance.

If in my 20s I had a little. Bit more wisdom, I
would have set aside an hour aday to study meditation and
relationships, because I wouldhave had a lot more money and a
lot more happiness later inlife. So in your 20s, you're
capable of working really hard.
You just don't know what to workon. So study how to be really
good partner, and study whateverpersonal development appeals to

(31:10):
you. If instead of doing that,you study how to make money,
just be an asshole, makes a lotof money.

One of the things that's contributed to my
success, one of the mainingredients something I call
extreme preparation. I teach it.
I'm writing a book calledextreme preparation. I want to
be the most prepared personwho's ever walked into that
room. How important haspreparation, or extreme
preparation been in yoursuccess.

It's been very toxic to my success. Sometimes I
spend huge amounts of timepreparing, and it wasn't even I
needed to do. And what I've beencultivating over the years is
what I'm going to call an innerknowingness, and there is an
intuition, and then there's anemotion, and then there's a
thought. I'm well prepared, butI'm not excessively well

(31:54):
prepared when I go into ameeting and I have a team who
prepares me with what I need toknow. I want to be prepared
enough, and I want to be I don'twant to have spent so much
energy on preparing ahead oftime that I'm not present and
reading the people in the roomand thinking about the future.
So I found that if I went downthat route too far, I would be

(32:15):
almost perfectionist. I'd stayup all night preparing the
perfect slide deck, but then I'mexhausted when I go into the
meeting. So it was, how do Iknow that I'm prepared? Enough
was the trick, and being overprepared for me was almost like
an act of paranoia, but beingextremely prepared was a good
thing

to O'Malley, UFC champion, talked about getting a
stem cell injection his penis.
You have also had a stem cellinjection in your penis. What is
that about? And does it actuallywork?

I've actually had five stem cell injections in my
penis over time. And having ayoung person's sexual function
is profound. You feel verydifferent when you do it. What's
worked better for me, though, issomething called the wasabi
method, which is one of my othercompanies. We use a specific
type of Sonic shock wave thatcauses new blood vessels to

(33:05):
grow, and you can add width orlength almost at will. It's used
medically as a treatment for Edor it's used by bio hackers as a
way of enhancing function. Andit's ridiculous. If you have a
penis that's not working verywell, you can hack it. You can
fix it very easily, and the stemcells are one of the ways to do

(33:26):
it. I've had stem cells in everyjoint in my body, in my face.
I've had my bone marrow takenout twice, and whenever I have
them injected, I'm not sure,injection there, might as well,
ouch. They use lidocaine. Youwon't feel it.

I think having curiosity is important. Oh,
yeah, encouraging our success.
And I want to talk about youstudied for a while. You had
ejaculation studies and orgasmstudies, and the conclusion of
which that a man should have oneorgasm a week and a women should
have as many as possible.

So well, not quite.
Let me tell you the numbers.
Yeah, let's, let's go throughthe numbers. This is from
ancient Taoist teachings. It'syour age in years minus 755.
Subscribe to seven. We got 48and then divide by four. Okay,
so what's 48 divided by four?
It's what 1212, 12 and a half.
So that means you wouldejaculate once every 12 days or

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less, if you want to maintainyour life force. This is less,
yeah, or less. So ejaculatingtoo often is bad for it, and
but, but why? Here's why. Okay,when you ejaculate, your
testosterone drops for about 48hours, and your prolactin levels
go up. Those are both bad foryou. Testosterone drives

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dopamine, which drives happinessand drives motivation, and
prolactin makes you tired andlethargic. So every time you're
ejaculating, according to theTaoists, they're saying you lose
life essence. And according towhat we understand about
hormones, there is anejaculation hangover. So I tried
to disprove this. I don't wantthis to be true whether a year
of trying the equation for myage. And they also say, if you

(35:09):
want to live forever, justejaculate once every 30 days as
a man and keep your keep yourorgasm to less than an hour.
What do you guys can have hourlong orgasms? Is ridiculous. So
I, for a year, I published thedata in game changers. I track
my daily happiness and myfrequency of sex and frequency
of ejaculation when as a guy,it's just like intermittent

(35:29):
fasting. You're not going to dieif you skip lunch, you're not
going to die if you don'tejaculate, but it feels like
you're going to so you learn howto do this, and Tom
strategically, just all kinds ofstuff written about this.
Montauk Chia has been on my showas a leading figure in this, and
what it turns out is you havehuge amounts of energy. And I've
had Uber drivers say, Damn, Iheard this on a podcast like I

(35:51):
just started a new car. Company,like, I got a $30,000 raise.
Like there are people, like yourenergy is just getting leaked
out, especially if you're doingporn, and what you find is, if
you learn how to not ejaculate,you have sex a lot more. Now,
the Taoists will say for women,orgasms do not diminish them.
There isn't a negative hormonalresponse. It's a positive
hormone response. So if you'rein a relationship and you

(36:13):
ejaculate less, you're gonnahave more sex. Your partner is
going to be happier, and you'regoing to be happier, and your
oxytocin levels go up foreveryone, and you maintain the
ability to go again and againand again, everybody wins in
that. You just have to get overthe idea that you'll die if you
don't ejaculate.

That's counterintuitive to how most
people feel after sex. Sex hasbeen known to be the most
pleasurable experience that onEarth.

When did I say not to have sex? I said, Don't
ejaculate

So, all right, so we got to get into this too,
because when I was reading aboutthat, I'm like Dave, who on
earth as a man is having sex andnot ejaculating. Why have sex I
don't I personally would notunderstand the point of that
well, either with anyone I knowabout everything.

If you could go for two hours and your partner had a
dozen like just earth shatteringorgasms, soak the sheets
entirely and was just fullyexhausted and in a state of
bliss you've never seen before.
You wouldn't want to

do that. That would make me happy, but, but
that's a function of justholding your ejaculation for a
while till your partnerexperiences her pleasure. So
what's wrong with that? So yourpartner has five orgasms and
then only wait because you wantto play well, five is a lot, I
think, for

for some people, well, I

think, I think, I mean, we're going deep. We're
going deep. Now, I've never,I've never heard of a woman
having 20 orgasms during sex.
Maybe I'm hanging hanging outwith the wrong crowd, but I've
never, I've never heard of thatbefore, but I do think, Huh, it
definitely happens. Okay, youshould have, let's

see, you should have Kevin Nami or Emily
Fletcher on the show. Okay,about that? Yeah, Brandy

love is on my show. She's one of the biggest
adult film stars. Okay, everinteresting episode not about
what people think it's about.
It's about the business ofpornography and why people go
into it. And it was fascinatingentrepreneur. That's why she
went into Yeah, but, but I, onceagain, I just, I cannot imagine

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not doing both. Yes, you want toplease your partner, but you
also want to also experienceyour own orgasm.

What if it was possible to have an orgasm that
ejaculate?

Unknown (38:28):
Is it? Yeah, how?
Well, this is what the teachingsare. So there's a way of I mean,
maybe, maybe I'm just noteducated. There are classes.
I've taken

all the classes on this stuff. And what you can do
is you can have whole bodyintense orgasms that don't
involve ejaculation. And thebenefit of this is you can go
have sex for two hours in themorning and you're like, Oh,
we've got some time thisevening. Let's do it again, and
there's do it again. And if youhave a marathon sex session, you
ejaculate the next day. You'reprobably not going to want to do

(38:58):
it again, right? Well, I

mean, now most people notice because your

prolactin levels are high and your testing,

no, I don't agree with you. Oh yes, you
would have so yeah, you'reunusual. There

aren't a lot of 55 year olds who can you can
ejaculate every single day aftertwo hours of sex. So
congratulations on being thathealthy. Well, I'm

not saying I'm that I really don't want to. I
mean, some days I feel great,he's watching. Some days I feel
great. I want to keep going. Andsome days it's like it's enough.
I'm tired. You know, a lot ofenergy,

exactly. So it is a lot of energy. What you'll find
is that when people go down thispath, they guys have profound
amounts of energy, like, theybecome really productive, yeah,
and you have so much more sex,like, there's a lot more sex,
right? And it's enjoyable. Andsince now, it's not about me.
I'm gonna it's like, how, whatis, what are we capable of doing

(39:47):
together? And I am going to feelgreat amounts of pleasure. I'm
going to have multiple orgasms.
I'm just not going to ejaculate,and maybe I will once a week, or
whenever I feel like it. So thethe problem was that was never
made an equation for women andall the research. So I figured
out the equation. It took a lotof research, and it's the number
of orgasms tells she feels likeshe's going to die, plus two.

Okay, so let's, let's make, let's make this
practical. So

the bottom line is, as a guy, you want to be able to
go and feel great pleasure andhave a ton of fun sex until she
just can't take it anymore, andthen a couple more. Because 20%
of people report meeting Godduring sex, when it's really
good sex. But few people havethe skills, just the sexual
skills, much less therelationship skills, to create a
safe space and all that. So itbecomes play when it's just not

(40:41):
about getting off, like, I'mgoing to have tons of orgasm and
experience all the pleasure.
It's just like, it's just likeintermittent fasting, the first
time you go 24 hours withouteating, like, oh my god, I
thought I was going to die. Ididn't it turns out, I felt
great. So go a week to say, I'mnot gonna ejaculate this week.
I'm just gonna have sex everysingle day. Okay,

so that was your partner, Emmy, with founders,
entrepreneurs. And you havesaid, If you coach an
entrepreneur, and if he weretalking about males, can have
sex and not ejaculate for someperiod of time, his career will
skyrocket, as opposed to himhaving normal sex every day.
Yes,

I'm just calling it like I see it, right? I'm not
so.

So some entrepreneur comes to me as
young man comes in, Dave, youknow what? What's your advice
for me to be successful is thatpart of what you actually tell
people, if 24 years old,

I'm gonna say, talk to me about porn, but I'm gonna
say, talk to me about porn. Ifthey're using porn, they gotta
stop that stuff is so bad foryour motivation, your dopamine,
it just doesn't work. I'm gonnatell them to do a cold plunge or
cryotherapy, right? And you talkabout mindset, I'll tell them
absolutely, talking about yourlove life, right? Because this

(42:00):
is a major variable. If you lookat what people need, we need to
feel safety, we need to feelnourished, and we need to feel
love. And sex for adults, ispart of love. It's not the only
part of it, but it's animportant it's a source of
nourishment for us, and ifyou're not paying attention to
those things, you're not goingto show up for your business in
the right way, right? If you'rerunning your business out of
fear because you're bullied,right, or to prove you're good

(42:22):
enough so you're worthy of love,you can build a business that
way. You just hate your lifewhile you're doing it. So I'm
like, Yes, become an epic lover.
Stop wasting your energy byejaculating every time. Make her
ejaculate every time, and thenyou do it once a week, and watch
how your life changes. Theamount of creative energy that a
man is capable of when he knowshow to hold his energy that way.
It is profound. And I'm notalone in this. All of yogic

(42:42):
teachings in Ayurveda talksabout this. All of traditional
Chinese medicine talks aboutthis. Taoism talks about it.
Tantra talks about it. We justdon't know it in the West. But
this has been written about for1000s of years. I didn't invent
this. I just tried to disproveit, and became a believer when I
couldn't disprove it.

So let's talk about something else that is
highly enjoyable. You mentionednourishment. Let's talk about
food.

Unknown (43:06):
I love food.

What are the five best foods you can eat to
be healthy and to biohack andlive longer. What are the worst
five?

The best five are grass fed beef or ruminant
animals, like things like sheepand bison and things like that.
Butter, coffee,

regular coffee.
Okay, better

than no coffee, but mold free coffee to be good. I
don't go in danger, obviously,but I'm biased.

Latte okay to fall within that category. Latte
is bad because of the milk. It's

probably bad because of the milk, if it's
normal milk, like the milk wehave in the West is called a one
protein from cows that ate cornand soy, and it actually causes
a lot of allergic problems andinflammation in people. Some
people can handle it, but mostpeople, milk is a problem in the
latte, so I would say, Putbutter instead of milk, it'll be
much happier, and after that,it's blueberries and wild caught

(44:01):
like eye salmon or somethinglike that. So these are fatty,
good quality fat foods and highpolyphenol foods. Those are most
important.

And don't worry about the mercury in fish,
because I know your thoughtsabout fish have changed over the
years.

Wild caught Sockeye only lives for two years, and
it's mostly fresh water, so ithas the lowest pesticide, the
lowest plastic or the lowestmercury, and very high omega
three content. That's why Ispecifically like that kind

of salmon, worse foods,

worse foods, anything that's a replacement
for meat made out of highlyprocessed food. So impossible
burgers Beyond Meat, stuff likethat. The fact that it tastes
just like meat, but it punchesyou in the gut, just like
peasant food, which is what itis, is a bit of a problem.
Another one would be anythingcontaining Omega six oils, where

(44:50):
canola oil, corn oil, soybeanoil, safflower oil, those are so
bad for you. I mean, that'severything, not the way I eat,
but it is most prepared foods.
And there's a reason we havediabetes and cancer everywhere.
It's because these oils are notsuitable for human consumption.
They're bad for you. And Ihaven't eaten them in 15 years.
I'm 4.8% body fat. I used to be300 pounds. And is, takes about
two years to replace half thefat in your cell membranes. So

(45:14):
avoiding, or at least heavilyminimizing those is important,
and you think about it, you takeone fish oil pill that has all
these good benefits. Why is itthat an equivalent amount of bad
oil wouldn't have bad benefits?
It's that bad for you,especially if it's a restaurant,
fried oils that have beentotally destroyed, and anything
that contains artificialflavorings or colorings. These

(45:35):
are provably bad for your brain,like really bad for your brain.
So I'm describing most processedfoods right now and then. The
one that's going to surprisepeople is what we'll call high
oxalate foods. This is spinach,kale, beets and even
raspberries. Sadly, oxalatescause seven. 80% of kidney
stones plants cause them, notanimals. And there are huge

(45:56):
numbers of people with urinarytract problems and all sorts of
pain in their body, gout,unexplained pain, skin problems
that are just caused by planttoxins. And oxalate is one of
the big ones. So spinach andkale are not superfoods. They're
bad for you.

Alcohol,

alcohol is bad for you, but it's fun, so I do it
once or twice a year.

Unknown (46:16):
And what do you mean?
You do it,

I'll drink something that's really good,
like great sake or wine as oldas I am, or something. But I
don't do one drink a weekbecause it ruins your sleep for
at least one night, and it is apro aging, pro cancer compound.
And there are better ways tofeel good. If you want to go to
go to a party and feel relaxed,have some true Kava. It does all
the good stuff of alcohol andnone of the bad stuff. Or have a

(46:39):
micro dose of mushrooms orsomething. That's always good
for your brain. But going outand drinking wine because you
like it. I don't care if youlike it. You could go out and
have heroin because you like it.
It's still not good for you. SoI just I don't understand
drinking alcohol, knowing howmuch metabolic damage it does, I
understand the desire to drink.
It do something better. If I amgoing to drink I'll protect my

(47:00):
liver, and I'll take a probioticthat stops alcohol from turning
into aldehyde, which is theprimary cause. It ages your
tissues so rapidly.

Let's move on to your lab, upgrade labs. Upgrade
labs where you have made theclaim that going in for a five
minute workout, three or fourdays a week is better than going
to the gym for some obsceneamount of time, explain what it
does and how on earth could thatbe possible. All

right, upgrade labs uses data and AI to help you get
to your goal as fast aspossible, using the technology
back hacking. Okay?

And just tell people this is a physical
location. I think you haveseven. Now.

We have 30 locations signed 30. So
franchise, you can go to own andupgrade labs.com and open one in
your neighborhood. And whatupgrade labs does is we bring in
all the technology I've workedwith for years that's used by
Super athletes and celebritiesand navy seals and things like
that that radically change howyour body responds. So we do

(48:04):
things like PEMF and cryotherapyand neurofeedback, and we use AI
to help you build muscle,because lifting weights works
just doesn't work very well, butcardio is the biggest one. If
you were to do an hour of cardioa day, five days a week for two
months, we think you'd bestrong, right? Your VO, two Max,
which is a measure of howeffective it is, it'll go up by

(48:26):
2% you know, work your ass off,sweat all the time. Feel good
about yourself, but you don'treally get very good result.
Come to upgrade labs and use ourAI bike five minutes three times
a week. You will not sweat. Youdon't have to change clothes
unless you're wearing a dress,because you guys sit on the bike
suit and doing that, you'llimprove by 12% your VO, two Max,
six times better results thanfive hours a day and 15 minutes

(48:49):
a week. You're on a bike. You'reon a bike. That's it. You're on
a bike, but the bike is readingyour heart rate, and you're
wearing headphones that tell youwhat to do, and it's modulating
the stress on you is it turnsout you don't change by doing
lots of work. You change byworking really hard and then
quickly returning to baseline.
So we're actually guiding you todo breathing exercises after a
very brief sprint to quicklydrop your heart rate so the body

(49:11):
goes, Oh, I might need to gofast, but now it's safe for me
to transform 12% vo two Maximprovement is equal to adding
two years to your expectedlifespan, and you could kick
your ass in a spin class andwear out your hips and knees.
Feel good about yourself ifsomeone yells at you in sweaty
spandex, and you're only goingto prove 2% so coming up great
labs, and we'll take care ofyour cardio. And you have so

(49:32):
much time left over, why don'twe train your brain? Train your
brain with neurofeedback when weput you on our whole body red
light therapy bed, that changeshow your cells are work
electrically, like there's somuch stuff you can do. You're
just wasting time at the gym.
It's better than not going tothe gym. It's just not very
effective on a permanent basis.
And I got shit to do.

What's your advice to parents who have
children? What should they bedoing? Health wise for their
kids,

I've taught my kids that you control how you feel
with what you eat, and Okay, tryand eat that and see how you
feel. And one of my biggestparenting moments was my kids
were at five or seven orsomething, they food chained the
nanny, and I said, guys, we'regonna go to McDonald's. And they

(50:24):
looked at me and they said,Daddy, you can take us to
McDonald's, but you can't makeus eat. I'm like, What are you
talking about? And they said, Weknow how our tummies feel. We
need that way. We don't want todo it. It doesn't matter if it
tastes good. I tastes good. Soteach your kids they have
control over their state, andkids want control more than
anything else, and let them eatthe bad stuff and see how they
feel.

Talking about the blue light glasses that you
wear, you wear them on a plane.
I think you wore them whenyou're walking today, and you
just came from Norway and yousaid, No. So no hangover or jet
light, and all that jet lightfrom the flight. So

light is an important nutrient and timing
signal for the body, and we gethuge amounts of blue light
indoors, and some blue light isgood for you, and others is not
good for you. So I started thiscompany about 12 years ago
called True dark. We makeglasses that block only the bad
blue and allow the good blue in.
And we make glasses for sleep atnight that tell the body that
it's dark, even though you canstill see. And this is why I

(51:22):
don't get jet lag anywhere onthe planet. And I wear these
because my eyes stay younger. Mybright studio lighting doesn't
bother me, and you actually feelgreat at the end of the day when
you haven't been exposed to hugeamounts of toxic blue light.

Where can we buy them? It@truedark.com's

truedark, and people report huge benefits. And
we just released a study for theones for sleep. 15 minutes
wearing those glasses is thesame as meditating. It drops
high speed brainwaves increasesoff waves just by wearing the
glasses. You wear them for ahalf hour before sleep, and you
get better sleep at night, andyou wear these during the day.
Your energy levels stay constantso your brain doesn't get tired

(52:00):
from crappy lighting.

They really work.

Oh my god, yeah.

How many pair have you sold since you started
the company? I

don't have a number, but it's a lot, and
people talk about, I don'tmarket them heavily, just people
feel different when they wearthem. So it's been life changing
for me. LED lights at a typicaloffice, they just knocked me
out. After a while, I just gettired. I wear these and I get
tired. So

as we conclude today, I always finished my show
with a game called fill theblank the excellence. Are you
ready to play? I'm ready to playmy number one professional goal
is.

My number one professional goal is to help a
lot of people learn how to be

happy. My number one personal goal is,

my number one personal goal is to get as close
to being fully enlightened as Ican in this life.

My biggest regret in life is,

my biggest regret in life is not learning
forgiveness earlier on, becauseI used to be kind of an asshole.

My biggest fear in life is

I don't run on fear anymore. I couldn't answer that.
One

is fear a great motivator.

It's great ways to get going. If you let it
motivate you, it'll leave youup.

The funniest thing that happened in my career
is

the funniest thing that happened in my career is in
2014 a Norwegian man wasarrested for smuggling grass fed
butter into Sweden for Christmasbaking because I created a
global shortage of butter.

That is actually hilarious. Did he go to jail
for? How long for butter, smoke?
I don't know how long. God, Isure hope you paid for his legal
expenses. Oh, that's crazy. Thebest advice I've ever received
is

the best advice I ever received was from my friend
Ken when I told him about anarcissist senior executive I
had who was eating up my companyculture, he looked at me and he
said, Dave, we're gonna fire herwith my phone or yours. Didn't
take his advice, and it probablycost me $100 million but it was
great advice.

If you could work with one person in the
world to improve their health,that person would be

if I could work with one person in the world to
improve their health? That's areally good question, like, who
would it be? It might be theDalai Lama. It'd be interesting
to do some life extension stuffwith them. That would be one
answer. The other one would beinteresting to work with Kanye

(54:39):
on his brain into someneurofeedback, right? Like he's
an incredible artist, and, youknow, clearly has his moments,
but I feel like there's so muchuntapped potential in there.

The one thing people should do to improve
their mental health is

the number one people think the number one
thing people should do toimprove their mental health is
learn how to sleep.

We could talk about this sleep issue for a
long time. I'm a terriblesleeper. Oh God, we

Unknown (55:08):
could hack that for you.

But what? What would the one main thing be, is
it turning off your phone beforeyou go to bed? Is it wearing
your glasses? Is it meditatingfor an hour before you go to
bed?

There's two things don't eat after the sun goes
down, or at least eat as earlyas you can, and number two,
either turn off the lights andhave red lights or wear latrude
glasses or go to bed. Light andfood are what are keeping you
from sleeping?

The one thing I've dreamt about doing for a
long time but haven't is,

the one thing I've dreamt about doing for a long
time but haven't is, I haven'tvisited Bhutan yet, kinder,
where they have a gross.
National Happiness product, soit's on my list, so I'll
probably go do it.

What are the three things on your bucket list
that you haven't done?

I haven't lived to 180 yet, but I'm working on
that. I haven't done all of thecognitive upgrades that I think
I'm capable of yet, so I don'tyet know all the levels that my
brain is capable of, but I'mworking on it.

Unknown (56:26):
And the third one on a bucket list I haven't done
yet. I

I haven't yet been to Patagonia seems kind of
interesting. Otherwise, likeI've done a lot of cool stuff.

One piece of advice that I would go back and
give my 21 year old self is the

one piece of advice I would give my 21 year old self
is that you have control of yourown biology. It's not there's
something wrong with you. Isthat there's something wrong
with your body.

If you could be one person in the world, who
would it be?

I've met a lot of really cool people in the world
who I not met. I haven't satdown with Elon yet. I've sat
down with Kimball a coupletimes, but it'd be, it'd be
really fun to chat with Elon fora little while.

If you were the president of the United States
in the next election, the firstthing he would do is, if

I was the president united states, you're saying are
elected or sure

you're elected.
If I'm elected, named tomorrowthe President United States was
the first thing you would do.

I would I would resign, because I like to get
shit done. It's a hopeless job.

The one question you wish I'd asked you is I

we didn't talk at all about women's health or
fertility, and these are massiveissues. My first book was on
fertility and how to have ahealthier baby. The fertility
rate is so low right now, andthe toxins that affect all of us
are affecting women more thanmen, and it's affecting the next
generation, and this issomething that we need to talk a

(58:16):
lot more about. The incidence ofautism in kids is going up.
Health problems in kids is goingup. Bobby Kennedy talked a lot
about this in his campaign, butthere's, there's a huge problem
in our children's health thatneeds attention, and there's a
huge problem in our women'shealth. They get Alzheimer's
twice as much as men, and wegotta do something about that.

(58:36):
It's our job as a society totake care of our women and
children. There are endocrinedisrupting chemicals made by
mother nature, toxic mold makesa lot of them. Some plants make
them, but man made fragrances,something called Atrazine, which
is allowed in the US, but bandedmost other countries, that turns
frogs into hermaphrodites. Itprovably affects humans at the

(58:57):
levels that are in our drinkingwater. And your job as a parent
is to do what you can to reduceyour exposure to household
chemicals and eat the cleanestfood you can afford, to bind
toxins if you're going to getpregnant or you're pregnant, and
to do your best to feed yourkids the food your ancestors
ate, not pre processed garbagefood. If you do this, your kids

(59:18):
chances of having autism, ADHDallergies, childhood illnesses,
all the stuff I dealt with, theydon't have to have it. And if
you see someone on the streetwho's pregnant, like open a door
for them. Just be kind. We don'thave enough mothers right now.
We don't have babies right now,and our babies and mothers
aren't healthy enough. So justdo your part in society. When

(59:41):
you see someone who's working tomake the next generation give
them a helping hand like thatalone, just feeling supported,
it's so profound. And if you'rea woman at perimenopause, for
God's sake, see a functionalmedicine doctor and get on
bioidentical hormonereplacement. The sooner you do
it, closer to menopause, thelower your risk of dementia

(01:00:03):
later in life, the lower risk ofcancer later in life. All the
fear mongering you heard aboutthat, it was all based on using
synthetic drugs. Thebioidentical approach helps
women at least as much as men.

Randall Kaplan (01:00:15):
This has been awesome. I really appreciate you
being on my show. Been a fan fora long time. I'm glad we got to
sit down today. Super brilliantguy. Thanks your positive
affecting lives of truly,millions of people. And I
learned a lot today, and I'mgonna chase on my own habits
here. There's a lot of not thesexual habits, but really,

(01:00:35):
appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks.

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