March 31, 2026 • 20 mins
Mike talks through the loss of his grandmother and the unexpected way her jewelry becomes a bridge between grief, family history, and love.
He shares the story of how an immigrant life, a box of jewelry on a bed, and one garnet brooch shape his view of what jewelry is really for.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
Hi.
Uh I wanted to make this episodebecause I just lost my
grandmother.
Uh, she was my last remaining umgrandparent, and I was very
fortunate to have four awesomegrandparents, but she was the
one I was the closest with.
Uh, she was 95 years old whenshe passed away this past week,
(00:30):
and she's also the person whoinspired me about jewelry.
And it's funny, I didn'tactually search out uh a career
in jewelry.
I sort of just came to me.
But I was always reallyinterested in jewelry from a
pretty young age.
I think it comes with the artthing, and I kind of wanted to
just talk about her and sort ofrelate the story of a
(00:56):
grandmother and how they can getyou into jewelry.
I've talked with hundreds ofpeople over the years about
jewelry on this podcast.
You've listened to them all, I'massuming.
And one thing that's reallyinteresting is that jewelers
still love jewelry.
It's their job, but they stilllike it.
(01:18):
And that's kind of, I don'tknow, something I appreciate
about the industry.
You know, if you work in oilrefining or steel smelting or
whatever, I sometimes wonder ifyou really care about it or you
have any appreciation for itother than you know the fact it
secures you financially.
But I know that jewelry issomething that jewelers still
(01:41):
care about.
You know, sometimes I talk to uhVincent and from Arezzo, and he
it's he's still excited aboutthe jewelry he's helping make.
Sometimes I talk with AnnaBarnett from Barnett Jewelers,
and she's still excited aboutthe new lines of jewelry that
they're seeing at these shows,the big, exciting, massive
(02:01):
diamond honkers that they see atthe uh trade shows, and the
small, dainty little things thatare going to be good for
entry-level people.
I mean, the fact that kids'jewelry even exists is kind of
an example of how it's notalways about the price of the
jewelry, but also just in partabout why we care about the
jewelry.
(02:22):
So, all that to be said, Iwanted to talk, if you'll
indulge me, about my grandma,because this is something that I
want to do.
And I feel like after 275episodes or whatever we're on, I
get to have one of these.
So if this isn't for you, noproblem.
But just listen to me talk aboutmy grandma.
So my grandma, her name was uhTerry.
(02:43):
Teresa is her name, uh was hername.
And um so Terry was born inGermany and during World War II
and goes on to meet my grandpa.
Uh, grandpa is was Mario.
And what's really interesting isthat my grandma was born in uh
(03:06):
Bavaria and was a GermanCatholic and goes on to fall in
love with and marry for oh 60 or70, I don't know, I don't even
know how many years they weremarried, a lot of years together
with a Polish Jew.
And my grandpa, uh, withoutgetting super into his story, uh
(03:27):
went through all the camps andhad a his family had a very uh
difficult time during the war,to put it very mildly.
And he ended up in the smalltown where my grandma was, and
they fell in love.
It was a storybook uh kind ofromance, and it always made me
(03:49):
smile.
But what was really interestingis one thing leads to another,
and my grandpa they decide toimmigrate to the United States.
Um, they had the choice betweenAmerica and the choice between
um and Australia.
And when they because my grandpawas a uh uh a prisoner of war
(04:10):
refugee type of um situationwith this, um, he had like a
almost like a voucher to goanywhere at one of these two
places that were ex uh acceptingum these refugees.
One was America, other wasAustralia.
And when he asked my grandma,she thought about it and she
said, Let's go to America,because I know where that is.
(04:33):
So off he went.
He went on a boat and he arrivedin America.
He left on, I believe it wasChristmas, Christmas Eve or
Christmas Day, and he got on aboat and he came to America with
uh five dollars.
And he went on to become superuh successful, and he was just
(04:54):
one of the smartest guys I know.
One thing that was reallyinteresting is they ended up,
you know, one year later, mygrandma also came across on a
boat to meet him here, and theystarted a life in America, in
New York City.
And as a Polish Jew, one thingthat I always kind of laughed
about or kind of found funnywhen they would tell me is my
(05:16):
grandpa didn't, I think, didn'treally trust the banks.
You know, I sometimes wonder ifit was because he couldn't have
a bank account, because as aprisoner of war, you know, as
like this refugee typecharacter, he didn't really have
any paperwork for his name.
You know, after the wars ended,he was sort of uh the term was
(05:36):
like a man without a country,you know.
He tried to go back to Polandand there was like nothing
there, and then he went all overthe place and lived on the black
market a little bit for a spell.
And when he came here, I thinkhe just didn't trust came a
little bit harder.
And one of the things he spenthis money on for my grandma was
(05:59):
on jewelry, and I think thatbecause they were both pretty
poor, they he really wanted mygrandma to feel you know, feel
rich or luxurious, I guess.
And what's funny is he always,always bought my grandma
flowers, but he also wouldinvest in uh jewelry.
(06:23):
And to fast forward the story,they eventually ended up in
Syracuse, New York, and that'swhere they they lived, you know,
till the very end.
And my grandma would stillsometimes visit New York City.
And what's funny is my grandpa,I think, uh, stopped wanting to
(06:43):
travel out of very you know veryquickly.
And what's funny is though, mygrandpa had a connect on Fifth
Ave in the Diamond District,even way back then.
I I I don't even know what thethe years were around then, uh,
you know, the 40s or the 50s, Iguess.
And even then, when theystarted, they started a um a
(07:06):
beauty salon in Syracuse, whichthey owned for about 50 years,
over 50 years, uh, they wouldinvest their money, my grandpa
would invest his money sometimesin uh diamonds and gold.
And he knew a guy in the fifthAv.
His name was uh Chaibach, and hewas also a Polish Jew.
(07:28):
And I still kind of laugh that Ithink that you know Chai Bach
had gone through the camps aswell, and they had that connect.
So he would give my grandpa someuh really solid, solid deals on,
especially on diamonds, but alsoon gold.
And what's funny is my grandmawould go down with the money and
(07:49):
would buy this jewelry and thencome back, and sometimes it was,
you know, a pretty substantialum stones.
And I still have to think aboutmy grandma, you know, not
running diamonds, but likebringing this, you know, these
deliveries up.
And with that, with thatjewelry, they kept us an
(08:13):
investment, and which is funnybecause they never sold it, you
know?
And I still remember when I wasprobably eight or nine or so,
um, sitting on my grandma's bedwhile my grandpa was still
around, and sitting on her bed,and my mom and her going through
my grandma's uh jewelry box andseeing all of the stuff.
(08:41):
And as a, you know, I I've likedart since I was literally born,
and they always knew that, and Ireally took a an interest in in
the jewelry, and my grandmawould take it out and let me try
it on and put on the watches,and they were never wealthy, but
it felt rich to do that.
(09:01):
Like these were investments,like there's no real difference,
I guess, in their eyes to havinggold and diamonds as opposed to
like having you know uh realestate or land or stuff like
that.
So they were it was just moretactile, I guess.
And it from a very early agespawned an interest in jewelry
(09:22):
for me.
And I used to try it, try on thethe diamond necklace, and my
grandma would let me see the theyou know the family stuff, which
I think is something I wouldhope that more people would do.
I sometimes wonder what otherfamilies did in that case.
Did do families keep their stuffin a safety deposit box or a
(09:45):
safe?
Like, I think what was sointeresting to me was they would
trade, they would allow me tosee it and and be involved.
And as a result, it made me likeyou know, interested.
And as the years went on, my momhas also done that for me and
(10:10):
would show me the the familyjewelry uh throughout the years.
Most of it, if we're beinghonest, almost all of it, was
from Oma and Opa, as I callthem, was from them.
And my mom would, you know,sometimes every few years let me
look at the at the jewelry andtry it all on to see what it was
(10:33):
like.
And I still really appreciatedthat experience.
And I guess, like to this isjust me kind of rambling and
telling a story, but I guess Iwould kind of encourage people
to let their kids in on it, andit will it might foster some
type of I don't know, experienceor relationship with jewelry
(10:57):
that is beyond just you know thebusiness end of it.
And what's really cool is thatthe past few days, as I've had
to kind of help deal with theestate in my mom and uncle kind
of going through her old things,uh one thing that was kind of
(11:22):
funny was people would they theylearned my extended family
learned I was involved injewelry.
They didn't all know, but mymom, of course, is very proud of
me.
So tells, oh Michael, he's yeah,he's been in jewelry for almost
nine years, and he he runs apodcast, and I cringe because
podcasting sometimes has anegative connotation.
(11:45):
And what was cool was they wentthrough the the rest of the
jewelry, and it made me feelreally proud that I knew so much
about this part of Oma, thatthey would show they asked me,
(12:08):
like, hey, is this worthanything?
And they would like hand it tome as they went through these
like little boxes, and I wouldbecause my grandma had some
costume jewelry, but like someof it was really nice, and they
would hand it to me and I'd lookand I'd be like, Oh yeah, that's
gold.
And then I would hand it back tothem, and then I would keep
sitting there and they'd belike, Michael, what about this
(12:29):
one?
And they'd hand me somethingelse, and I'd look, and I was
like, Oh yeah, that is alsogold.
And it was that over and overagain, because my grandma didn't
really my grandpa didn't buyanything that was junk, and uh
no offense to the people whodeal in gold-plated stuff, but
everything was very solid.
(12:51):
And something about it made me,she was such a classy, classy
old bird, and it made me soproud of her, some somehow, in
holding these pieces of jewelry,like they had a little
something, like a little storyinside of them, and something
(13:13):
about the fact I didn't know allof the stories kind of made me a
little bit sad.
But I knew a lot of them.
So it was a really special thingto go through and get a chance
to look at it.
And my grandma had uh had abirthday in January.
(13:39):
Um so she wa her birthstone wasuh garnets, and mine was also
garnets, and the stones that shehad a pin, a brooch.
She had asked me if I wantedthis brooch a long time ago.
It had all these garnets on it,and it looks like um a bouquet
(14:03):
of flowers, and there'ssomething that my grandma loved.
It was flowers and it wasbutterflies, and it had all
these garnets looking likeflowers, and she really had
offered it to me, I think, threedifferent times.
The designer on it, as I've gonein and I've started looking at
(14:27):
it a little bit more, is thisperson named Lucien Picard, and
apparently it's from the 1960s,and she offered it to me so many
times, and I said no everysingle time.
And I didn't want to take itbecause it felt like I would
(14:48):
admit she was going to die,which is very naive of me, of
course.
And she really would sometimesbe like, oh, of course I'm going
to die.
And I didn't want to admit itbecause I thought that having
this pin meant that I was likealmost like welcoming her dying.
(15:11):
So we went in and we looked atthat, all of the jewelry, and
that was the one thing that Ireally felt the closest to.
And I now have that pin.
And what's really interesting,just to kind of tie it all
together a little bit more, is Iasked um my friend Vincent from
(15:34):
Orezzo Jewelers to tell me aboutthis pin.
And it was a really cool thingto hear him kind of explain, you
know, read him explaining it tome.
And he was really nice.
He explained what the stonesare, and he explained he asked
if I could look to see if it wasstamped, and it was.
(15:57):
And I think that it's a reallynice heirloom.
And I had a question to myself,like, why am I holding on to
this if I am I gonna wear a pin?
Am I gonna be a brooch guy?
And you know what?
I don't know yet, but I'm gonnatry to wear it.
Maybe to some art openings.
(16:18):
My grandma would find thatfunny.
And maybe I'll wear it to someother um events, weddings, wear
it on my, you know, on theinside of my jacket, maybe, or
on the outside of my jacket.
But it was these things that Ihad never really experienced the
(16:41):
connection and the storytellingof jewelry quite like that.
I think we do that with withjewelry in the living.
I mean, isn't that what uhengagement ring is supposed to
be for?
Engagement rings are supposed tobe symbols of eternal love.
But I think that also jewelrymaybe can symbolize um like
(17:07):
someone who's now deceased inthe memories we have of our
love.
Cause I man, I I really lovethis lady.
Um, I used to talk to her everysingle day.
I call her every single day, andwe talk for one minute, or we
talk for 15 minutes or 30minutes.
Usually just five minutes, she'dtell me what the weather in
(17:30):
Syracuse was like.
I would tell her what I didtoday, and that was it.
But now something about this pinjust feels really special and
like I can carry a piece ofjewelry with me that will make
me think of her.
(17:54):
Yeah.
I I guess it made me think meven more about it's crazy to
say, like the value of a life.
You know?
Some people they don't haveanything to show for their
family, you know, they don'thave uh an heirloom, lots of
(18:17):
families they live and they die,and they don't have anything to
bring with them to remember therest of them.
So I should consider myself verylucky that she had this one to
give to me.
Even if I didn't want to take itin real life, or while she was
around.
I wanted to wait.
(18:38):
But now I have a Lucien Picardbrooch with garnets and emeralds
and pearl and turquoise in theshape of a really nice flower, a
bouquet of flowers.
And it's all gold because ofcourse she wouldn't have
anything gold plated, that wouldbe insane.
She would never It's funny, theywere never they were never
(19:02):
wealthy, they were never rich,but they built a life in a
foreign country that that theycame to as immigrants, and it
makes me really proud of them.
And I think that's kind of whatI've just been thinking about.
(19:23):
Sometimes jewelry is tocelebrate new love, and
sometimes jewelry is tocelebrate old love.
And I think that's something Ilearned from my grandma and I
thought I'd share it with you.
I think that's why I ended it.
Hopefully you can edit that Paulto make it sound a little bit
(19:44):
better.
Um maybe two weeks.
I might think a week.
Hi.
Uh I wanted to make this episodebecause I just lost my
grandmother.
Uh, she was my last remaining umgrandparent, and I was very
fortunate to have four awesomegrandparents, but she was the
one I was the closest with.
Uh, she was 95 years old whenshe passed away this past week,
(00:30):
and she's also the person whoinspired me about jewelry.
And it's funny, I didn'tactually search out uh a career
in jewelry.
I sort of just came to me.
But I was always reallyinterested in jewelry from a
pretty young age.
I think it comes with the artthing, and I kind of wanted to
just talk about her and sort ofrelate the story of a
(00:56):
grandmother and how they can getyou into jewelry.
I've talked with hundreds ofpeople over the years about
jewelry on this podcast.
You've listened to them all, I'massuming.
And one thing that's reallyinteresting is that jewelers
still love jewelry.
It's their job, but they stilllike it.
(01:18):
And that's kind of, I don'tknow, something I appreciate
about the industry.
You know, if you work in oilrefining or steel smelting or
whatever, I sometimes wonder ifyou really care about it or you
have any appreciation for itother than you know the fact it
secures you financially.
But I know that jewelry issomething that jewelers still
(01:41):
care about.
You know, sometimes I talk to uhVincent and from Arezzo, and he
it's he's still excited aboutthe jewelry he's helping make.
Sometimes I talk with AnnaBarnett from Barnett Jewelers,
and she's still excited aboutthe new lines of jewelry that
they're seeing at these shows,the big, exciting, massive
(02:01):
diamond honkers that they see atthe uh trade shows, and the
small, dainty little things thatare going to be good for
entry-level people.
I mean, the fact that kids'jewelry even exists is kind of
an example of how it's notalways about the price of the
jewelry, but also just in partabout why we care about the
jewelry.
(02:22):
So, all that to be said, Iwanted to talk, if you'll
indulge me, about my grandma,because this is something that I
want to do.
And I feel like after 275episodes or whatever we're on, I
get to have one of these.
So if this isn't for you, noproblem.
But just listen to me talk aboutmy grandma.
So my grandma, her name was uhTerry.
(02:43):
Teresa is her name, uh was hername.
And um so Terry was born inGermany and during World War II
and goes on to meet my grandpa.
Uh, grandpa is was Mario.
And what's really interesting isthat my grandma was born in uh
(03:06):
Bavaria and was a GermanCatholic and goes on to fall in
love with and marry for oh 60 or70, I don't know, I don't even
know how many years they weremarried, a lot of years together
with a Polish Jew.
And my grandpa, uh, withoutgetting super into his story, uh
(03:27):
went through all the camps andhad a his family had a very uh
difficult time during the war,to put it very mildly.
And he ended up in the smalltown where my grandma was, and
they fell in love.
It was a storybook uh kind ofromance, and it always made me
(03:49):
smile.
But what was really interestingis one thing leads to another,
and my grandpa they decide toimmigrate to the United States.
Um, they had the choice betweenAmerica and the choice between
um and Australia.
And when they because my grandpawas a uh uh a prisoner of war
(04:10):
refugee type of um situationwith this, um, he had like a
almost like a voucher to goanywhere at one of these two
places that were ex uh acceptingum these refugees.
One was America, other wasAustralia.
And when he asked my grandma,she thought about it and she
said, Let's go to America,because I know where that is.
(04:33):
So off he went.
He went on a boat and he arrivedin America.
He left on, I believe it wasChristmas, Christmas Eve or
Christmas Day, and he got on aboat and he came to America with
uh five dollars.
And he went on to become superuh successful, and he was just
(04:54):
one of the smartest guys I know.
One thing that was reallyinteresting is they ended up,
you know, one year later, mygrandma also came across on a
boat to meet him here, and theystarted a life in America, in
New York City.
And as a Polish Jew, one thingthat I always kind of laughed
about or kind of found funnywhen they would tell me is my
(05:16):
grandpa didn't, I think, didn'treally trust the banks.
You know, I sometimes wonder ifit was because he couldn't have
a bank account, because as aprisoner of war, you know, as
like this refugee typecharacter, he didn't really have
any paperwork for his name.
You know, after the wars ended,he was sort of uh the term was
(05:36):
like a man without a country,you know.
He tried to go back to Polandand there was like nothing
there, and then he went all overthe place and lived on the black
market a little bit for a spell.
And when he came here, I thinkhe just didn't trust came a
little bit harder.
And one of the things he spenthis money on for my grandma was
(05:59):
on jewelry, and I think thatbecause they were both pretty
poor, they he really wanted mygrandma to feel you know, feel
rich or luxurious, I guess.
And what's funny is he always,always bought my grandma
flowers, but he also wouldinvest in uh jewelry.
(06:23):
And to fast forward the story,they eventually ended up in
Syracuse, New York, and that'swhere they they lived, you know,
till the very end.
And my grandma would stillsometimes visit New York City.
And what's funny is my grandpa,I think, uh, stopped wanting to
(06:43):
travel out of very you know veryquickly.
And what's funny is though, mygrandpa had a connect on Fifth
Ave in the Diamond District,even way back then.
I I I don't even know what thethe years were around then, uh,
you know, the 40s or the 50s, Iguess.
And even then, when theystarted, they started a um a
(07:06):
beauty salon in Syracuse, whichthey owned for about 50 years,
over 50 years, uh, they wouldinvest their money, my grandpa
would invest his money sometimesin uh diamonds and gold.
And he knew a guy in the fifthAv.
His name was uh Chaibach, and hewas also a Polish Jew.
(07:28):
And I still kind of laugh that Ithink that you know Chai Bach
had gone through the camps aswell, and they had that connect.
So he would give my grandpa someuh really solid, solid deals on,
especially on diamonds, but alsoon gold.
And what's funny is my grandmawould go down with the money and
(07:49):
would buy this jewelry and thencome back, and sometimes it was,
you know, a pretty substantialum stones.
And I still have to think aboutmy grandma, you know, not
running diamonds, but likebringing this, you know, these
deliveries up.
And with that, with thatjewelry, they kept us an
(08:13):
investment, and which is funnybecause they never sold it, you
know?
And I still remember when I wasprobably eight or nine or so,
um, sitting on my grandma's bedwhile my grandpa was still
around, and sitting on her bed,and my mom and her going through
my grandma's uh jewelry box andseeing all of the stuff.
(08:41):
And as a, you know, I I've likedart since I was literally born,
and they always knew that, and Ireally took a an interest in in
the jewelry, and my grandmawould take it out and let me try
it on and put on the watches,and they were never wealthy, but
it felt rich to do that.
(09:01):
Like these were investments,like there's no real difference,
I guess, in their eyes to havinggold and diamonds as opposed to
like having you know uh realestate or land or stuff like
that.
So they were it was just moretactile, I guess.
And it from a very early agespawned an interest in jewelry
(09:22):
for me.
And I used to try it, try on thethe diamond necklace, and my
grandma would let me see the theyou know the family stuff, which
I think is something I wouldhope that more people would do.
I sometimes wonder what otherfamilies did in that case.
Did do families keep their stuffin a safety deposit box or a
(09:45):
safe?
Like, I think what was sointeresting to me was they would
trade, they would allow me tosee it and and be involved.
And as a result, it made me likeyou know, interested.
And as the years went on, my momhas also done that for me and
(10:10):
would show me the the familyjewelry uh throughout the years.
Most of it, if we're beinghonest, almost all of it, was
from Oma and Opa, as I callthem, was from them.
And my mom would, you know,sometimes every few years let me
look at the at the jewelry andtry it all on to see what it was
(10:33):
like.
And I still really appreciatedthat experience.
And I guess, like to this isjust me kind of rambling and
telling a story, but I guess Iwould kind of encourage people
to let their kids in on it, andit will it might foster some
type of I don't know, experienceor relationship with jewelry
(10:57):
that is beyond just you know thebusiness end of it.
And what's really cool is thatthe past few days, as I've had
to kind of help deal with theestate in my mom and uncle kind
of going through her old things,uh one thing that was kind of
(11:22):
funny was people would they theylearned my extended family
learned I was involved injewelry.
They didn't all know, but mymom, of course, is very proud of
me.
So tells, oh Michael, he's yeah,he's been in jewelry for almost
nine years, and he he runs apodcast, and I cringe because
podcasting sometimes has anegative connotation.
(11:45):
And what was cool was they wentthrough the the rest of the
jewelry, and it made me feelreally proud that I knew so much
about this part of Oma, thatthey would show they asked me,
(12:08):
like, hey, is this worthanything?
And they would like hand it tome as they went through these
like little boxes, and I wouldbecause my grandma had some
costume jewelry, but like someof it was really nice, and they
would hand it to me and I'd lookand I'd be like, Oh yeah, that's
gold.
And then I would hand it back tothem, and then I would keep
sitting there and they'd belike, Michael, what about this
(12:29):
one?
And they'd hand me somethingelse, and I'd look, and I was
like, Oh yeah, that is alsogold.
And it was that over and overagain, because my grandma didn't
really my grandpa didn't buyanything that was junk, and uh
no offense to the people whodeal in gold-plated stuff, but
everything was very solid.
(12:51):
And something about it made me,she was such a classy, classy
old bird, and it made me soproud of her, some somehow, in
holding these pieces of jewelry,like they had a little
something, like a little storyinside of them, and something
(13:13):
about the fact I didn't know allof the stories kind of made me a
little bit sad.
But I knew a lot of them.
So it was a really special thingto go through and get a chance
to look at it.
And my grandma had uh had abirthday in January.
(13:39):
Um so she wa her birthstone wasuh garnets, and mine was also
garnets, and the stones that shehad a pin, a brooch.
She had asked me if I wantedthis brooch a long time ago.
It had all these garnets on it,and it looks like um a bouquet
(14:03):
of flowers, and there'ssomething that my grandma loved.
It was flowers and it wasbutterflies, and it had all
these garnets looking likeflowers, and she really had
offered it to me, I think, threedifferent times.
The designer on it, as I've gonein and I've started looking at
(14:27):
it a little bit more, is thisperson named Lucien Picard, and
apparently it's from the 1960s,and she offered it to me so many
times, and I said no everysingle time.
And I didn't want to take itbecause it felt like I would
(14:48):
admit she was going to die,which is very naive of me, of
course.
And she really would sometimesbe like, oh, of course I'm going
to die.
And I didn't want to admit itbecause I thought that having
this pin meant that I was likealmost like welcoming her dying.
(15:11):
So we went in and we looked atthat, all of the jewelry, and
that was the one thing that Ireally felt the closest to.
And I now have that pin.
And what's really interesting,just to kind of tie it all
together a little bit more, is Iasked um my friend Vincent from
(15:34):
Orezzo Jewelers to tell me aboutthis pin.
And it was a really cool thingto hear him kind of explain, you
know, read him explaining it tome.
And he was really nice.
He explained what the stonesare, and he explained he asked
if I could look to see if it wasstamped, and it was.
(15:57):
And I think that it's a reallynice heirloom.
And I had a question to myself,like, why am I holding on to
this if I am I gonna wear a pin?
Am I gonna be a brooch guy?
And you know what?
I don't know yet, but I'm gonnatry to wear it.
Maybe to some art openings.
(16:18):
My grandma would find thatfunny.
And maybe I'll wear it to someother um events, weddings, wear
it on my, you know, on theinside of my jacket, maybe, or
on the outside of my jacket.
But it was these things that Ihad never really experienced the
(16:41):
connection and the storytellingof jewelry quite like that.
I think we do that with withjewelry in the living.
I mean, isn't that what uhengagement ring is supposed to
be for?
Engagement rings are supposed tobe symbols of eternal love.
But I think that also jewelrymaybe can symbolize um like
(17:07):
someone who's now deceased inthe memories we have of our
love.
Cause I man, I I really lovethis lady.
Um, I used to talk to her everysingle day.
I call her every single day, andwe talk for one minute, or we
talk for 15 minutes or 30minutes.
Usually just five minutes, she'dtell me what the weather in
(17:30):
Syracuse was like.
I would tell her what I didtoday, and that was it.
But now something about this pinjust feels really special and
like I can carry a piece ofjewelry with me that will make
me think of her.
(17:54):
Yeah.
I I guess it made me think meven more about it's crazy to
say, like the value of a life.
You know?
Some people they don't haveanything to show for their
family, you know, they don'thave uh an heirloom, lots of
(18:17):
families they live and they die,and they don't have anything to
bring with them to remember therest of them.
So I should consider myself verylucky that she had this one to
give to me.
Even if I didn't want to take itin real life, or while she was
around.
I wanted to wait.
(18:38):
But now I have a Lucien Picardbrooch with garnets and emeralds
and pearl and turquoise in theshape of a really nice flower, a
bouquet of flowers.
And it's all gold because ofcourse she wouldn't have
anything gold plated, that wouldbe insane.
She would never It's funny, theywere never they were never
(19:02):
wealthy, they were never rich,but they built a life in a
foreign country that that theycame to as immigrants, and it
makes me really proud of them.
And I think that's kind of whatI've just been thinking about.
(19:23):
Sometimes jewelry is tocelebrate new love, and
sometimes jewelry is tocelebrate old love.
And I think that's something Ilearned from my grandma and I
thought I'd share it with you.
I think that's why I ended it.
Hopefully you can edit that Paulto make it sound a little bit
(19:44):
better.
Um maybe two weeks.
I might think a week.
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