Ep. #855: Stephen Bassett – State of Disclosure

There are rumblings of a major UFO disclosure before year’s end. But is this more hype, or are we finally nearing the end of decades of secrecy? Jeremy welcomes Stephen Bassett to discuss the latest developments and what’s happening behind closed doors that could signal real movement toward the revelation of an extraterrestrial visitation.

Episode Transcript

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we can see and feel, a place that's anything but ordinary.

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Corona.

Speaker 7 (01:02):
The Northern Lights have been really putting on a show
over the past couple of nights.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Don't say we didn't warn you.

Speaker 7 (01:10):
We're relevant like that, somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
Our last broadcast really got many of you interested in
what the Sun has been doing. And the sun has
been doing a lot, as we mentioned, major flares last
week and then a even larger one just yesterday on Tuesday,

(01:34):
a five point one solar flare. This would be the
biggest of the entire year, not of the cycle. We're
currently well past I think solar maximum now because it
arrived earlier than expected in this cycle, so it's not
the biggest flare of the cycle, but it is the
biggest of the year. And so what does that mean

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for you if you are in the past of this,
Perhaps some spectacular auroras again tonight. I mean it could
be happening right now, depending on where you are, it
is of that hour. And according to Noah, they predict
strong to severe geomagnetic storm conditions overnight, something on the

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range of G three to G four, which was even
a little bit stronger than what we saw on Friday
into the weekend, and the UK Met Office is issued
an even higher G five watch, which of course, if
you know your scale, that is the highest that is

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the weather forecast Office for the UK.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
By the way, so.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
A G three to G four here in the US
and perhaps G five over in the United Kingdom. After
last night's vivid auroras, I was actually seeing some of
these just come in real time as far south as Mexico,
in other places around the US as well. Several states

(03:10):
got to see this. They say tonight's show though, could
again be visible across at least seventeen US states. But
if the storm intensifies, like it reaches G four or
you know, we have another solar flare and maybe a
coronal mass ejection which we can't rule out. Because the
sun continues to be active well, the northern lights could

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extend actually farther south than expected. And if we get
clear skies, tonight could bring one of the brightest Northern
lights displays in years, may even beat that of last
May if you remember those.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
So this is a night.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
It is a crisp, cool fall night here in the
Pacific Northwest. If you have clear skies, it might be
the night to get out and just look up. And
who knows, while you're they're looking hoping to see the
northern lights, you just might actually see a UFO while

(04:20):
you're skywatching for auroras. Can't beat that if you ask me.
I'm always finding a way to bring UFOs into the
conversation in case you haven't known notice. But no, when
people are out, and that's a good point to make,
is that when people are looking up for events like

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tonight's northern lights, you are bound to see other things.
And you could see meteors. I mean we're going through
the torreds right now. You could see UFOs. There's a
whole bunch of things that you could see if you
just look up. So if you're seeing anything, I'd love
to hear from you. You can reach me at pairubnormal

(05:02):
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Wherever you get the podcasts on your favorite apps, just
search into the pair abnormal and you can listen for free.
Speaking of UFOs, because we are going to be talking
about disclosure tonight, the FAA Federal Aviation Administration, has a

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what we call it a new policy, or maybe it's
just a procedural thing. They issued a notice in late
October updating air traffic control it's a air traffic control manual,
and in so doing replaced Unidentified flying Object UFO with
Unidentified Anomalist phenomena UAP. You might be saying, Jeremy, what

(05:49):
took them so long? Yeah, I'm not sure either. UAP
is a term. I think I first heard about it
from Hillary Clinton, a former Secretary of State.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Lady.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Actually, I mean, I've got to give credit where credit
is due. I'm sure others had used it before her.
She probably picked it up from someone, I'm guessing, and
the government, of course, has already been using UAP. So
what this really does is just align the FAA with
federal law, under which UAP now replaces UFO when it

(06:24):
comes to the government, and for most people, they just
do UAP. I mean, I still like UFO because when
you say UFO, everybody knows unidentified flying object or they
think alien craft. If you say UAP right now and
it's to somebody who's not in the know, they're going
to ask you what that is, so you have to

(06:44):
tell them it's the old UFO. So I just stick
to UFO for the most part. But the manual, you know,
getting current with today's time and starts controllers to inform
their superior of any reported or observed UAP or unexplained phenomena.

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So while primarily a terminology and procedural update, it does
signal increased acknowledgment of UAP as both an aviation safety
and national security issue. What does it actually mean for
air traffic controllers, pilots and flight crew as well. Air

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traffic controllers now have to report any sidings or reports
that they get from pilots of UAP. They will no
longer log these events as routine anomalies. They're now considered
distinct safety and national security occurrences, requiring escalation, as they

(07:49):
should because when you have something that is basically impeding
on military aircraft commercial aircraft. Call it an incursion. We
don't know who it is, what its capabilities are, what

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its purposes are. So it is a threat, and we've
said that from day one. Even if it's not an
alien threat, it is a national security and it's a
flight safety threat. Pilots and flight crews are encouraged to
report UAP encounters through normal air traffic control channels and
again that would then be logged as a national security

(08:38):
occurrence and would be escalated. Reports then would be handled
to ensure data can be shared with the All domin
Anomaly Resolution Office and other agencies. You know, as much
as the government can share information amongst itself. It seems
like there's a lot of bureaucracy involved, so who knows
how much sharing will be going on. The goal is

(09:00):
to standardize and destigmatize reporting so pilots can file their
reports without fear or ridicule or professional risk, which is
something that they have effaced for coming forward talking about.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
What they know.

Speaker 7 (09:17):
And in that case, there is still some legislation going
on to protect whistleblowers who come forward, and perhaps some
efforts that are still happening to bring formal disclosure of
not only the UFO, but the extraterrestrial presence.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
To the world stage.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
So honored that we bring back to the program tonight
the great Stephen Bassett to discuss disclosure. Steven's up next
full two hours with him. Are close to it tonight.
Somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal. I'm Jeremy Scott.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Into the paraormal pear of normal.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
I'm Jeremy Scott's somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.
I mean there may be another hearing, who knows before
the end of the year, although maybe they want to
go home for the holidays, so I don't know if
we'll get another hearing. We'll ask Stephen Bassett of the
Paradigm Research Group if he has any inkling on whether
we'll see a hearing before the end of the year.

(10:36):
If you're not familiar with Stephen Bassett, I mean I
first heard about him many many years ago, and I
followed his work through the years. Obviously, many years ago
he had the event at the National Press Club.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
He's been a lobbyist.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
He's been working behind the scenes and in in front
of the camera as well as the executive director of
Paradigm Research Group, co founder of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance,
and has mentioned a former lobbyist on Capitol Hill who
has been advocating for the end of the truth embargo
and the formal confirmation of an alien presence for many

(11:14):
decades now. But we always cherish our time with him.
He has a great insightful commentary on what is happening,
and sometimes it can be a little bit hard to
keep up.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So here he is Stephen Bassett. Welcome back to the program.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Hi, Jeremy, good to be with you, my friend.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Absolutely, it's good to talk with you before we round
up the year. Do you have any comments on what
I've said thus far? Do you think that there's a
possibility we get a hearing before the end of the year.
With the government shutdown, I don't think that's helping the cause.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Well, Jeremy, you're a busy guy, so am I. But
I spend a great deal of time checking the news constantly.
The shutdown is over. You had eight senators, I only
needed five DEM senators cut a deal. They've been working
on it for some time. I think from day one

(12:09):
there were certain DEM Senators that were working on details
that might end up being a solution. Took forty days
and so the shutdown is over for now. They have
postponed a vote for the bill until the end of January,
so the risk of another shutdown is over two months

(12:30):
away and the Houses back in session. Representative Revolva group
and never can get that. Gre Holda has been sworn
in and so forth. She did sign the discharge petition,

(12:52):
so that Epstein file is a matter was about to
which is relevant is about to leave the station with Gusto,
I think, and we know that. I know that Berlison
wants to have a hearing, Luna would like to have
a hearing, and so I think the chances are fairly

(13:13):
good we will see one. It is a very positive thing.
It's a distraction from a lot of the not so
nice stuff and they get nothing but pretty good press,
and so I think it's a motivation to do it.
So I'm not rolling it out and we'll no soon enough.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
I think there will be a break obviously between you
know now that they're back to work, and I apologize
I wasn't up to date on the latest breaking news,
but I appreciate the correction there. There will obviously be
a holiday break, and who knows whether or not this
will happen, But whether it's between now and the end
of the year or you know, the beginning of twenty
twenty six, it really doesn't matter as long as it's happening,

(13:53):
and there are steps right that are taking place behind
the scenes, are there not. This has been an ongoing
process and it continues.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
There's always something going on behind the scenes. One of
the reasons the truth in bargoes day the number is
that now it's an active issue in the Congress, both
in the House and the Senate. So while we may
see a public hearing, there may be an interview on
a podcast. Behind the scenes, they're talking to each other,

(14:22):
they're considering legislation, they might be talking with witnesses, And
that's the way it's supposed to be on a major
issue that needs to have the attention of the Congress.
And so the engage of the issue is almost politically
is almost normalized, which again sounds okay, big deal. Well,

(14:46):
you know the history of this issue, it is a
big deal. It took nearly eighty years to get to
where we are right now, and that's enormous progress. But
it took a long time, so I think that I
expect a number of things to emerge from the Congress.
I can list a few, but one certainly is the hearing.
I think they'll have one their witnesses ready to testify.

(15:11):
There are some witnesses that are not. But the witnesses
that are definitely ready to testify that are known to
Burleson and Luna, I believe, and well really much the
entire committee are the nuclear shutdown witnesses, which came up
in this last hearing back September via the testimony of
George Knapp, very significant testimony where it was the first

(15:33):
time ever there you had the mention of the nuclear
shutdown events under oath, but they didn't go into it,
but it was brought up referred to, including Russia. Again,
major developments that most people are not aware of. I
get that. And then of course we have the UAP
Disclosure Act, which is still in play. Is the act
that will not die. The latest status that I'm aware

(15:58):
of from source is that it will not make it
in the NDAA, not surprisingly but because given the political
situation the end of the year, what have you. And
that's a major bill. But there's a possibility it could
be introduced. It will be introduced into the House by

(16:19):
Eric Burlson. But and if I think I was told correctly,
but we'll see it may be modified in a way
to make it more palatable, and that modification is non trivial.
The initial well, the previous efforts to put that bill
in it included a presidential UFO reboot U board, and

(16:41):
a lot of people didn't like that for a number
of reasons. This time the bill would reflect a congressionally
appointed review board, which creates a more bipartisan board, because
that board is critical to the whole disclosure process once
it goes into effect in terms of the decision making

(17:02):
of what comes forward, what holds for a while, what
stays back? So who knows, but that's in play. And
then of course, and so again disclosure disclosure. Now, how
about this one, A breakthrough movie documentary is going to
hit three screens on the twenty first of this month,

(17:22):
just nine days from now, the age of disclosure. Most
of your listeners probably know about this, sure, Dan Farres,
he directed and wrote it. It's his pretty much his production.
He's a professional Hollywood guys. He's been involved in a
list project and it is going to have an impact.
Some people are thinking it won't be mostly the same old,

(17:46):
same old, and some are concerned that it's not powerful enough,
but I disagree. This is a major documentary which I
look as like a sledgehammer in which thirty four Pete
Mill with standard mainstream crudentials, political, military, intelligence and others

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just testify one after another after another, two aspects of
this issue, all in the framework that, of course we're
talking about something real, we're talking about an actual presence,
we're talking about tech and so forth, and this is
going to come across very powerful. It will be in
three theaters but immediately is going to be available for

(18:35):
sale and rental on Amazon worldwide. Where it goes from
there don't know, but a lot of people are going
to watch this film in the coming weeks. But even
more importantly, Dan Farrah had the opportunity to go on
Bill Maher back on the thirty first, I believe, and

(18:56):
he was the initial interview. He did extremely well and
Mark clearly, Mark clearly indicated that now he's positive on
this issue. And it was Mare that brought up the
issue of nuke shutdowns, which was major right and Dan
Farrah responded to that, all.

Speaker 7 (19:15):
Right, we got to pause with the Stephen Bassett talking
about the state of disclosure tonight, UFOs and aliens.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's the truth in bargo.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
That is well in effect, but we're rattling it loose
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Pair of normal news. I'm George Henry. Did three I
Atlas break apart as it made its closest pass to
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object may have long up to sixteen percent of its mass.
He has warned about something happening as it traveled behind
the Sun.

Speaker 10 (20:06):
If he doesn't come out of the other side of
the Sun as expected, we should be really concerned.

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He believes three Eye Atlas may have disintegrated into at
least sixteen pieces, possibly under intense solar heat. Professor Loeb
says new images show huge jets, one stretching about six
hundred and twenty thousand miles towards the Sun, the other
nearly two million miles in the opposite direction, but that
the Sun alone doesn't seem to provide enough energy to

(20:35):
explain the loss of mass. If three Eye Atlas is
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Speaker 3 (21:01):
Are we about to see major UFO disclosure coming from
the US government.

Speaker 10 (21:05):
There will be some sort of confirmation soon, and it
will confirm an alien presence. At least that's what my
friends are being told by people they trust in Washington.

Speaker 11 (21:17):
If the President of the United States issued an executive
order that absolves me of all of my TSSCI NDAs
and I get subpoenaed by Congress to reveal everything I know,
I would do.

Speaker 12 (21:32):
So.

Speaker 13 (21:32):
They're going to set up a seven year program called
the UAP Controlled Disclosure Campaign plan to release all of
this information over the next seven year period.

Speaker 14 (21:46):
A ju though a Pair of Normal with Jery Scott
somewhere between the Pair of Normal and abnormal.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Talking about disclosure.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
Tonight's Stephen Bassett from the Paradigm Research Group and the
Hollywood Disclosure Alliance is with us. So there's been at
least one and other mainstream interviews that have taken place
regarding a documentary which will drop in theaters and then
go to streaming and probably some other form of distribution

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after that called the age of Disclosure. And during the
promotion for the release of this film, Dan Farrah, who
is the director of the film and the producer, was
talking with Bill Maher, so a big audience what took place.
Stephen Garer was interviewed as the lead interview on the

(22:41):
show if you know the format, and it went extremely well.
Mar brought up the idea of the issue of nuclear shutdowns.
Dan referred to that that's extremely important because that is
to me, the key issue, the most important thing that
needs to get testimony in May, in the next hearing
and afterwards and on overtime. It's one of these things

(23:02):
they do now in extra ten minutes that only goes online.
Dan Farrer was part of that, so and that was
I think the thirty first so that's like twenty one
days before the.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Film premieres in three cities. The real time with Bill
Maher is on Netflix, so it has as I believe
one site mentioned that it had the highest viewer overall
viewership in terms of accumulated views than any of the
show on Netflix. It then airs on the delayed air

(23:36):
on CNN, where typically get up to a million views,
and then the overtime on YouTube, which has two point
three million subscribers. He could get several million views in
a short amount of time. Some of the older ones
have had twenty five thirty million views, and so far

(23:57):
more people are going to see the mar interview and
the overtime interview then the film. It'll take a long
time for the film to catch up, and so the
thing is now completely employed as we move towards the
end of the year. So you've got a potential disclosure hearing,
you have potential Disclosure Act, You've got the Age of

(24:18):
Disclosure movie all happening for the end of twenty twenty five.
You have people talking about disclosure being interviewed like in
your clip, the task he is talking about if he
was given a clearance by the president, he can come forward.
But the idea of coming forward, the idea of giving
extremely important, revealing information in a formal way, has now

(24:40):
been normalized. It's happening all the time. And what's embedded
in all of this is a clear understanding that this
isn't speculation, this is information about a certainty, which is
there is non advanced non human technology here in advance,

(25:00):
non technologically advanced on humans where they're from, and so
forth we'll see. I have my own opinion about that.
And so we're practically there after eighty years, and it
is all happening fast. It's a little bit pushed back
by rather extraordinary political developments, and of course you've got
obvious problems overseas international, but that hasn't really stopped it.

(25:23):
It's only slowed it down a little bit. And so
something's going to give here. And then I will add
this in a nonpartisan way. It happened. It just happens
by accident to correspond in time with a major political
development which is a scandal decades in the making that

(25:44):
has somehow not burst out at least in a broadway.
But it's about to explode, and it's going to affect
a lot of people, and people of rank and station
is going to be is going to be wild and crazy.
And in terms of those that are affected politically, including

(26:05):
the president, there may be an interaction here, and by
that I mean that engaging this issue, which is huge,
it will captivate the entire world's attention, would certainly be
a distraction or at least a mitigating factor if one
is being impacted by this massive, pretty awful scandal that's

(26:31):
going to break into And really it began today. The
dam broke today when the New York Times put out
a couple of the emails and so forth. Twenty thousand
emails have been put into play by the GOP. This
thing is going to move forward, and every indication is
couldn't be pretty bad. And so it's a coincidence, and

(26:51):
yet one could in fact impact the other.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Are you referring to Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
I'm referring to the Epstein scandal, of course.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
And the emails that have just come out in regards
to that.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
This is just breaking, literally breaking today. The New York
Times apparently, I think they sat on the story a
little bit. They didn't want to put it out until
after the government was reopened. So we're kind of more
of a normalized state, and this thing will be happened
to be addressed. Both parties are in town, both members
Congress are in town, so something's going to move fast there.

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But at the same time, an issue far more important
than that, I assure you, the resolution of the truth
of this non human presence and the fact that there's
been a truth in bargo denying it falseley is happening
at the same time. And so how this is going
to play out, I don't know, but I'll tell you
it's going to be a damn interesting sixty to ninety days,

(27:47):
that is for sure.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Interesting. Would President Trump release the ET files during this time?
I mean, he always has that card to play, Will
he play it?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Not exactly. By the way, when Danny Sheen is talking
about the seven year controlled plan, which is referred to
as the control disclosure plan in the act, I reacted
to that, ooh, bad choice of words. But it's not
in the concept of what people talk about all the time,
control disclosure, fake false flags and things like that. No, really,

(28:29):
you could replace controlled with responsible a seven year responsible
disclosure plan. So it's done in a way that is
responsible and appropriate. But understand that that's going to follow
disclosure by the president. That's another disclosure that's capital D.
The confirmation event. The President is not going to come

(28:49):
out and hand out files. Doesn't have to WITHD be inappropriate.
What the president can do at any time. And I'll
give you some reasons for that can step out in
the the Oval Office from the Oval Office and simply
confirm what we've been hearing. Yes, I can confirm it,
non human tech, non human bodies, legacy programs working on it,

(29:11):
and you want to know more. And obviously that's going
to happen, and there is a bill that's in play
that will help bring that about. And that's it. He
doesn't have to say anything more than that.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
He's just he's just sitting the stage. And then what
happens happens from there. More to come with Stephen.

Speaker 8 (29:29):
Bassett into the pair of pair of.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
I'm Jeremy Scott with Stephen Bassett tonight outlining what disclosure
might look like, disclosure of UFOs and the alien visitation
that we've been hearing about for decades through you know,
Hollywood productions, of films, books, the whole nine yards.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
What would this actually look like?

Speaker 7 (30:10):
And to here is one scenario where or President Trump
basically just says, yes, I can confirm what it is
that you think you know, and then I guess to
be determined what happens from there we can get together
and decide how best to roll through that.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
And that's kind of is that a little bit.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
What the h this disclosure plan deals with, I mean,
the the economics and you know when you bring religion
into this, and and how it would change literally many
systems at play.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Well. Once again, once we get the formal confirmation from
the head of state, which again it's not trivial, it
opens up the issue to a completely appropriate and broad
scale engage that it can't happen any other way. And
by the way, other heads of state will follow pretty quickly.

(31:06):
And so once we're in the post disclosure world, which
is a few seconds after those words come out of
the president's mouth, then in short, we're going to start
to see things come forward. We're also going to learn
what the government's plans are, because I can assure you
the government has been gaming this, I say the government,
the DoD some of the intelligence agency have been using

(31:29):
the supercomputers to game out post disclosure scenarios like they
game out war scenarios for decades. Remember, the government's known
about the etpresidensis no later the forty seven, and so
they're probably ready to come forward with a fairly orderly process.
We may or may not like the legislation we already

(31:50):
know about that gets past, but what's essential is that
once we have confirmation, we can move forward without a
lot of nonsense, without all the game playing and hide
the ball and all that. The skeptics will kind of
tone down, I think, and we can get real progress
and it'll happen fast. Now. The one thing that I'll

(32:13):
emphasize that I that I can do now I wasn't
able to do this, say five months ago, is that
I can say confidently the president right now. Though it's
not ideal yet, the overall structured platform for a president
to step forward has been built. It needs a few
more pieces. But the president could walk out tomorrow and

(32:37):
the truth in Barbo with the confirmation statement to show
from the White House, and there wouldn't be too much problem.
There wouldn't be it wouldn't be that uncomfortable. And one
of the reasons, and not only that, I believe that
it is in play that he could do so, and
the reasons for that, I'll be very quick. I've talked
about this is a series of of things that clearly

(33:02):
are not accidental. Five days before his nomination, his son
John Junior, on his podcast, brought on Alizondo and Colthart,
two major players in the disclosure process to discuss it
for two hours. That's not an accident. And then as
we move forward in the year, jd Vance, the Vice President,
goes on the Ruthless podcast and talks about how he

(33:24):
is obsessed with UFOs and that's the vice president. That's
not an accent accent accident. And then not too long
after that, the Director of National Intelligence, Kelsey Gabbert, goes
on a podcast and also discusses the issue a little

(33:45):
more carefully, indicates that there's things she can't talk about
right now and so forth. That's not an accident. And
then Anna Paulina Luna goes on Rogan not long after
that for a two hour interview where she also gets
into the subject, speculates that what she's seen in Kate's
possibly interdimensionality, and she's the head of the task Force
to be classified government secrets and a key member of

(34:06):
the oversight committee. That's not an accident. And then just Wednesday, J.
D Vance goes on that the podcast won right and
states that restates and this is ahead of the film
coming out. I think that was the reason restates his
interest in this subject and goes out of his way

(34:28):
to point out that his very close friend Marco Rubio,
the Secretary of State, is also into the subject. That's
not an accident. And so when you put all of
that together, it's obvious that this issue is in play
behind the scenes in the White House, meaning well Mark
or Rubio, Secretary of State, though they can get together

(34:51):
the White House anytime they want to and be discussing
as completely privately. So if it's in play, then the
idea of the president might the act is very realistic,
and I'm saying that overall enough is in place that
it would not be too awkward. I mean, there'd be
immediate movement to give the Disclosure Act up. Disclosure Act passed,

(35:17):
there'd be immediate movement to get hearings, more hearings in place,
and so forth. It would generate a lot of things. Now,
those things could happen before that act. Would be nice
if it was already passed before the President stepped out,
But at this point it's not that critical, and so
I considered a possibility. It would not shock me if
it happened tomorrow or a week from now. The President

(35:39):
is done and he's the disclosure president. That's it. Every
other head of state will have to follow him. Now,
if another head of state should see all of this
going on and realize, oh, we're almost the finish line,
and just jump in and go in front of their
people and their media and confirm the extraterrustrial presence well able,

(35:59):
I'm sure to back it up with evidence. It would
be quite convincing. Then our president is second, and there
is no prize for second. So that's just kind of
an assessment of where we are, and the.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Next sixty days are crucial here, sixty to ninety days,
you believe.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, sixty days. Certainly through the end
of the year. There's so much happening. It's going to
generate lots of news, and of course after the first
political situation is going to get more interesting. There's a
tremendous dynamic going on now, and so a lot's going
to happen in the next sixty to ninety days. Some
of it very unpleasant, could some of it could be wonderful.

(36:43):
So we'll we shall see and follow it as closely
as possible. But I'm very optimistic that some dramatic things
are going to take place, and I'll know more when
I watch the Age of Disclosure at the theater here
in Washington in DC. Now there's something else going on again.
There's so much happening it's hard to keep up. A

(37:05):
major conference is going to be at taking place in December.
Now it's being put together out of Washington, d C.
But it's going to be online. It was supposed to
be at a major hotel here in town, but various
things that are going on made that just not possible,
and so they decided it would go online. And it's
the State of the World form. The website is the

(37:27):
State of Theworld dot form, all right, And it's the
return of the State of the World form. And what's
important about this, and by the way, it is headed
by Jim Garrison, who is the director of this with
a substantial team. What's important is that thirty years ago

(37:48):
Jim Garrison and his good friend and colleague Mahael Gorchov
put on a State of the World form. They put
on six of them, I think between ninety five and
and two thousand. Why because the world had changed in
a huge way, massive transition, paradigm shift. The Soviet Union

(38:11):
had collapsed, Communist Party outlawed, possibly the end of the
Cold War, a new restructuring an opportunity for peace, etc. Etc.
People are very excited looking forward. And so with Gorbachev's
gravitas and Jim's connections, they put together six significant events.
I think at one of them they were charging five
thousand a ticket. There were heads of state that came in.

(38:34):
Not a lot is known about this available currently because
it was before the internet, but you dig you can
find it. But there's a lot of history of the
early state of the World forums on the website state
ofdeworld dot form, and you could see how significant that was.
But what happened. Instead of making some serious changes, we

(38:54):
ended up sliding back into another Cold war, more nuclear
arms race based on the systems, a lot of proxy
wars and so forth. And so the next thirty years
was not so good. And now what's happening. Another major
paradigm shift is eminent. The disclosure event is going to
be huge, and it opens up the possibility to once

(39:16):
again reassess where we've been and where we want to
go and are we going to continue to make the
same mistakes and squander our opportunities to have a civilization
that works as as opposed to one that's in decline.
And so the first one is going to be online.
It's going to be December fourteen to seventeen, and it's

(39:38):
it's going to be very different, different in some ways
from the one before this. Thirty years later, a lot
has happened and then technology and elsewhere, and so this
is designed around the four intelligence So there'll be top
people in panels and all of them will be involved
in one of the four intelligences, and they'll be dialogue.

Speaker 7 (39:58):
Steven the Bassett hold I thought, will continue the next
hour with him from the Paradigm Research Group in the
Hollywood Disclosure Alliance tonight.

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Speaker 7 (41:18):
There are some rumblings out there that before the end
of the year or slightly after the first of the year,
that there could be a major disclosure when it comes
to the UFO and extraterrestrial revelation. We're talking about this
tonight with the Stephen Bassett. There's two events, according to

(41:39):
him that are significant coming up, and one of those
is the release of a film and also a conference
that is taking place. And you mentioned there are top
officials who will be appearing in both of these at
the conference and also in the film. Give us an
idea of who we might hear from Stephen and the
significance of their testimonies.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
The film will be. Yeah, we got politicians, and you've
got people in the military and so forth. The State
of the World form is a little different. It's got
fifty six pretty sharp people in their areas of study
and engagement, who all are going to be speaking from

(42:23):
one of the four intelligence intelligences, which is the way
this thing is designed. It's one of the things that
distinguishes it from the State of the World forms back
in the nineteen nineties. And they will be in dialogue
in over three days, multiple sessions. And the four intelligences
that are involved here are are the extraterrestrial intelligence right

(42:48):
in other words, the et issue, which obviously was not
part of the forum back in nineteen nineties, artificial intelligence
that wasn't available in the nineteen nineties the human intelligence,
which this time around is a little more exotic because
it's going to include the developing understanding that our brain

(43:12):
is capable of a hell of a lot more than
we know or is generally accepted. And the term for
this now is called psionics. It includes telepathy, remote viewing,
and a lot of other things, which is not science
fiction anymore. But it was delayed getting out why because
when the US government got that crash back in forty

(43:35):
seven and the living entity that was a pilot, as
well as there were dead ets, they learned something and
if they didn't learn it there, they learned it from
contact these that these entities are telepathic. They can put
information in your brind and they can read information in

(43:55):
your mind. And so that absolutely confirmed right then and
there that tellspathy was real, and there were other aspects
in this realm that they were intrigued by, and so
the governments launched multiple fully classified programs to study this
absolutely without limit. All of this is classified, and it

(44:18):
didn't leak out until decades later. And the reason it
was classified was because they viewed these kinds of things
such as telepathy as potentially weaponizable. So they were studying
what the human brain can do beyond what the average
person understands. With the idea of making it a weapon,

(44:40):
not a wonderful idea in my view, but in any event,
that's why they did put a lot of money into
the research. Well, now they've learned a lot, but in
the public sector a lot has been learned, and so
this is now a legitimate aspect of the human condition.
And so that's the third intelligence. The fourth intelligence is
nature the Earth. There is a whole lot going on

(45:03):
there that is a little more complicated and interesting than
we've previously understood. And so these are the four intelligences
that are going to be at the heart of this event.
But understand the et is in a way to me
the leading one because it is literally happening right now,

(45:25):
so that ties into what is going on. I should
mention that PRG is a collaborator with the State of
the World Forum. So anybody that's listening to this, if
they get in touch with me by email or text
or through social media, I can provide a discount code

(45:45):
that they can use to reduce the cost of the event.
So that's happening, and you'll be hearing more about that,
and it's going to play into these other developments. So
it's disclosure, disclosure, disclosure everywhere you look. And even now
we're getting a psionics now in terms of the represented

(46:06):
the kind of people that are going to be at
the State of the worldform, Bob Sallis is going to
be there, so that gets the UFO and nuke and
nuke shutdown in place. Diana Hennessy Powell will be part
of this online event, and of course she is now
leading the charge into telepathy, being fully accepted the work

(46:28):
he's doing tapes, telepathy tapes. She is a Nobel Prize
there at some point, so that's she's there. And then
Beatrice Villarel. Uh, Wow, she's going to be part of this.
Why is that important? Well, she has a possibility of
a Nobel Prize, to be honest with you, and this

(46:48):
is fairly new just came out. She is part of
a very significant organization called the Nordic Institute of Thearetical
Physics in Stockholm. She's a scientist and she got the
idea to do a very interesting project which she named VASCO,
which has a name Vanishing and Appearing and appearing sources

(47:11):
during a century of observation. Now this isn't deep science
like trying to understand quantum physics or relativity or what
have you, but it's damn implicative science. And so she
did something I don't thin anybody else is done. They
went and looked at thousands of photograph you know, astrophotography
plates where parts of the sky have been shot photos repeatedly,

(47:38):
and all of this is logged in by Dayton by time,
and so in reviewing thousands of them, what they found
is that in a particular plate of a particular spot
in our sky, there would be something there, and then
shortly after that, when it was retaken, it wasn't there.
There might have been some instances where was there two
plates in a row and then the third one it's

(48:00):
not there. And then it gets more interesting because all
of these were dated. These places are dated, and so
consequently they were able to correlate when these things were
happening the most with what's happening on the ground. And
what they found is about a forty five percent correlation
to nuclear weapons tests and other similar related activities. Very

(48:26):
interesting based on what we know about the ets. They
shut down our nukes, they shut down the Russian nukes.
We always suspected that they're very much connected to this.
It's very important and so wow, and why is this significant?
Because all of this is happening before there was any
satellites in space at all. There's nothing human made orbiting

(48:49):
the Earth, and here are things coming and going, and
so ultimately there's only one explanation. They are manufactured objects,
not human, from somewhere else doing whatever they want to do,
observe or what have you. So this is almost a
slam dunk on a technological non human civilizations outside our planet.

(49:16):
And for that reason she could get a Nobel prize.
So that just broke and that's getting a great deal
of attention. And then organizations are forming over the last
three years that are now producing output. Ryan Graves and
it wasn't Ryan Graves, Will Smith I think I forget
his name. I think it was Smith formed something called

(49:36):
the Enigma Labs, serious organization. Al Rojas I think he's involved.
I believe an Enigma Labs created an app for getting
sightings together. It became another nexus for sightings to accumulate.
But obviously with all the bells and whistles that we
have now and over a couple of years. They accumulated
a huge amount of sightings. But what's noted is they they.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
It's Alex, it's Alex Smith. We got to go to brain,
but I wanted to get that in before we took
the break. And we'll get right back to Stephen Basset
to continue, because yeah, they have done some significant stuff,
not only with us o's but drones and uf FOU reports.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
So we'll be right.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
Back into the para normal pair.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Of somewhere between the paranormal and the abnormal.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
I am Jeremy Scott's talking about the state of disclosure
tonight with Stephen Bassett from the Paradigm Research Group and
the Hollywood Disclosure Lines. I appreciate the tie in with
the with Enigma Labs. I'm trying to get them on
the program just to have them share their data with
the audience. This is some very good stuff that they're
putting out and important data.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Well what's really important, what's gotten attention is that nine
thousand of these signings that they've accumulate are of submersed
objects off the coast of the United States. That's pretty significant.
And one reason why is it ties in to other things.

(51:18):
So what we're seeing is the emergence of citizen or
non governmental science at a much higher level than in
previous decades, which is finding out things which then correlate
to other things that have been learned in the public arena.
In this case, the idea of submersible objects that are

(51:39):
anomalous or unidentified summercial object USOS has been in play
now for some time and inside people have talked about
it and referred to it, confirmed it. Admiral Galad Debt
is just one of those people. And so the idea
of the the ability of these crafts to operate under
the water as well established called medium space air water.

(52:02):
So that's already known. And then they come up with
all these sightings. Now if that is representative of the situation.
In other words, they're just not some USO's out there,
there are a lot. What's that all about? So that's
very significant. And in the other area, what we were talking
about before, the nuclears and the vast Yeah, that ties

(52:27):
in so Vasco gets out there and brilliantly and it's
gould be a Nobel prize, not not because the science
is incredibly complicated, but because it's good science. No one's
done it, and the implications of it are profound, and
that justifies a Nobel prize. In that case, you get
the correlation with the nuke sightings, which ties in to

(52:50):
a lot of the evidence that we know already, and
there's going to be more of that because more organizations
are forming all the time, and they're getting more money,
and they've got high level people, and in other words,
we're practically, in a sense, a post disclosure world without
the confirmation. But that's not enough that for confirmation is

(53:11):
required to really unleash our society on that.

Speaker 7 (53:16):
Stephen and I saying, look, this exists and we know
these things are really isn't enough for the mainstream.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
But it's moving so fast, and that's why, you know,
I invite the managers of the Truth Embargo to let
it go. Okay, you've basically lost already, you just haven't
really accepted it. I understand it's denial. I understand your concerns.
Some it's national security, but I think that's been put aside.
A lot of it has to do with just personal awkwardness.

(53:43):
They don't want to have to answer questions in a
post disclosure situation, whether it's in hearings or press or whatever.
About why did they do this, why was the secret,
why why did you stand back? Whatever? They'd rather be
fully retired and you know, living in some nice tropical
climate and not available, were dead. So they're resisting, and

(54:04):
I'm saying, you know, you've got it wrong. It's not
going to be It's not going to be bad at all.
People are not going to be pounding on you or
are trolling you because you were part of the Legacy programs.
They're going to be thrilled that it's out. They're going
to want to know more of what you have to say.
If you can say it, you're going to be a resource.

(54:25):
It's just not going to be that bad. So don't
let your concern about awkwardness and or just being harassed
with Once we get disclosure, if you're inside the legacy
programs allow you to go along with more resistance, which
is more of a political thing coming from appointees I
suspect in certain parts of the government. So we're right

(54:46):
there at the balance point. It's going to take something
really dramatic to maybe push this in the future, a
major new war of starting up that's really scary. Certainly
the use of a tactical news something like that push
this off. But short of that, the stars are starting
to align.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Reagan had alluded to on multiple occasions, you know, maybe
a war, even one with an extraterrestrial race, would actually
unite us and not divide us.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Not exactly he was referring to, if there's a threat from
you know, bad evil, extra trestles, we'd have to come together.
I got the point he was making. It was he
was letting us know that he knew, Okay, right, you
don't bring that up if you don't actually know there's
really something there. But he couldn't say that. But we're
in a much more advanced place now. The ets are

(55:37):
not a threat. We are a threat to ourselves, and
so what it really is should be playing out is
not what Reagan said. But if we really understood what
a threat to ourselves we are, as we are closer
to nuclear war than ever with eight point three billion people,
we can't clothe house the by fresh water, who are

(56:01):
getting more and more angry and upset. If we could
truly understand how dangerous our situation is, we would come
together to open the door to that et presence. Now,
that is obviously the flip side of what he was
trying to say, But back then I get it. He

(56:21):
was trying to sell the SDI too, So that is
really the way to talk about it. Can we do that?
Can we come together in this embargo, engage the post
disclosure world and see where it takes us. At minimum,
it gets us access to develop technologies and or new
science that is probably in the labs and vaults of

(56:43):
a number of countries that might now become available for
us to address the huge issues that we face. It
also might lead to open contact, which could take us
almost anywhere. Open contact not twenty years now, but soon
one or two years. Totally logical. All of this is
kind of on our doorstep at the same time we're

(57:03):
teetering right on the edge of the volcano. And so
there's a lot of evidence with respect to the et
presence that shows that they know this. They understand how
precipitous our situation is. They give messages along those lines
telepathically to contact these They even give it for reasons

(57:26):
that I don't fully understand, but yeah, I maybe understand.
They put those messages into school chicks, school kids heads
literally landing next to the schoolyards and then giving them
these messages or what that's home to those work. That's right,
There's been more more than just a couple of those,
but most of them are not been made public. But

(57:48):
if you dig deep enough, you can find there's been
other instances. Why are they doing that? And so that
indicates yeah, kids are aware, Well they're young, and they're
going to carry that forward. Uh, they're going to it's
a way of kind of the ets are tricky. I mean,
they don't put out press releases. They try to get
things into play using the methods that they use, and

(58:10):
they're not traditional, to say the least, one day, I
hope they tell us exactly what their agenda was and
why they pursued it that way. But all of this
ties together now increasingly into a logical structure that's going somewhere,
not backwards, but forwards. So all I can say is,
right now, right now, the president has a chance to

(58:32):
be the disclosure president. It would be monumental in its significance.
All right, right now, a bill could easily be passed.
All right now, The first documentary on this field to
ever get oscar nomination capability by being put in the
right screens is about to air all right, we have

(58:53):
major conferences are still happening, and there's a brand new
in the State of the World form Contact in the Desert,
of course, is going to happened next year. You got
Conscious Life Expo. I'm going up to New York in
a couple of days with the New Life Expo in
New York fifteen sixteenth November. I've got some promo up
on my site. You can check that out. It's one

(59:14):
of the largest and longest conferences of it type in
the genre, still going strong. I'll be talking about the
same things I'm talking about here. So in spite of
the fact that the politics is so awkward and difficult,
that there are severe challenges to politicians and the Congress,

(59:37):
extraordinary things are coming together. And I'm suggesting if we
play this well, we can extract from the next ninety
days some really positive things while hopefully dealing with some
very negative things and putting them to bed, getting or
resoll where the hell it takes. And twenty twenty six
could be the year and.

Speaker 7 (59:59):
The et presence it might be what unites us. I
think that's what Reagan was alluding to. More to come
with Stephen Bassett tonight into.

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Speaker 12 (01:01:36):
What if all of us in the world discovered that
we were threatened by an outer power from outer space,
outer space from another planet. I occasionally think how quickly
our difference is worldwide would vanish if we were facing
an a threat, a threat from outside this world. And

(01:01:59):
yet I ask you, it's not an alien force already
among us?

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Whether it's unexplained for just plain strange. This is your
kind of show into the far abnormal, call.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Him ahead of his time.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
But here's Ronald Reagan asking you know, is an alien
presence not already among us?

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
It seems like he knew what many of us know.

Speaker 7 (01:02:31):
And now maybe on a grand scale, the world will know,
and maybe this will happen in the next sixty ninety days.
Stay tuned, as they say, talking with Stephen Bassett of
the Paradigm Research Group and the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance, I mean,
we've alluded to that, but we have a lot of problems.
You know, people are worried about a civil war here

(01:02:52):
in this country. Imagine a statement from the President that says,
you know, we can confirm there is this non human
intelligence and they may eventually show themselves to us and
then say that does happen. That would have quite a
profound impact on this country. Don't you think in other
countries as well, oh, the entire world.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
It's the biggest event in human history, is the greatest
paradigm shift. Everything will start to change, and well everybody's
going to hopefully participate, and then the question is what
do we make of it? But I'd forgotten about that
last statement that Reagan made and isn't there already one
am an alien presence among us? That's interesting, I forgot

(01:03:36):
about that. I think that Reagan was briefed, not necessarily total,
but he given it a sense that, yeah, it's real,
and given the timeframe, I think if he was brief
the statements he would have also gotten would be you know,
they could be a threat, they could be a potential threat.
That doesn't shock me. We've learned a lot more since then.
But under the circumstances, that's what he was told and

(01:03:57):
that's what he put it out. And it definitely is
as advanced disclosure process because that was a president. But
that's not the case now, all right. So the Hollywood
Disclosure Alliance was created two years ago, founded by me
and Dan Harrari, who's a long time publicist in Hollywood,
because we knew that the the UAP world has been

(01:04:21):
walled off from the mainstream world, ridiculed, isolated. I like
to call it a ghetto in a sense. Meanwhile, Hollywood
and the major production companies have you with the money
and the skills, have made all kinds of sci fi
movies with ets, made a fortune, but didn't do docs
until very recently. They did some streaming shows because they

(01:04:44):
did not want to bother They didn't want upset the government.
They didn't want to go there, right, you know, stay
with the fiction, don't go go real. So we made
our own docs, but limited resources. So now the main
production content creators are starting to get the point and
they're going to start wanting to create. But we don't

(01:05:05):
want them to forget about all the people that spend
decades engaging this issue without being part of a university
or a government program, of the Citizen Research Effort and
others in contact these to wall them off. No, let's
make sure they get together and so the content will
be robust and these people will get acknowledged. So we

(01:05:27):
created the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance as a nonprofit networking entity
that just networks people together, doesn't get a cut of
any deals. We've got two hundred and thirty members half
for what we call Hollywood members, meaning content creators professionals.
Half are UAP people that are engaged in this issue
in a number of ways. Some have a foot in

(01:05:47):
both camps and they are able to network with each
other network across the two groups. We hold events to
make it easier for content to get created, and it's working.
We hope to have a thousand members eventually because the
demand for content if we get disclosure from the president

(01:06:09):
is going to go right through the roof. I mean
it's like you could get anything green lighted and the
world's want to know everything all at once, and so
then I can be able to crank out information, documentaries,
narratives on this subject. They'll still make more scary probably
et movies or alien movies, but the need for documentary

(01:06:30):
or narrative films and content is going to be off
the charts, and so let's get that going right. So
we're helping people network. So when that happens, they're going
to hit the ground running because getting that content out
quickly is going to be key to getting things kind
of stabilized and under control and satisfying a voracious demand

(01:06:54):
for information from eight billion people. So that's one of
my proudest accomplishments with Dan. He's in LA, I'm in DC.
I do go back and forth, and if you're a
content creator and you're interested, go to the website Hollywood
Disclosure dot org. Let us hear from you. Maybe you
become a founding member, or if you're a UAP person

(01:07:15):
you've been involved in it and you're looking to be
part of content. Get in touch with Dan or I
from that site.

Speaker 7 (01:07:22):
Hollywood Disclosure Alliance dot org, Paradigm Researchgroup dot org. Those
are Steven's websites. We've got him linked up in the
episode section. While you're at it, you might as well
go back and listen to the archives. We've got dozens
of hours in fact with Stephen in the archives by
now that are relevant. As ever, as far as this
evidence of an ET presence, why did you get involved

(01:07:47):
in this subject in advocating for the end of the
truth in Bargo and this formal proclamation that alien life
exists and perhaps has visited us for dozens of yu years?
How did that come to be?

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Stephen?

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Look is simple. I was having a midlife crisis at
forty eight forty nine, like most men, but for different reasons.
I didn't have the ability to go out and buy
a Cadillac convertible or something, or join a commune, and
I was at loose ends, and I really wanted to decide.

(01:08:24):
I really wanted to do something had never really done before,
and that is sit down and decide what do you
want to do with the rest of your life? Not
what can you do? What do you want to do?
You only have so much time. Where would you put
that time if you were going to spend the rest
of your life doing something. And my awareness of the

(01:08:45):
issue and things I had read and what have you,
and my love of science and science fiction I've seen
it all came together. And when I read the John
Max's book Abduction, that's when it hit me, Yeah, this
is going to be the biggest issue of our time
going forward. If you can get involved in this, you'll

(01:09:06):
never regret it. And that was the decision, and I
was able to get involved in a very good way
thanks to John Mack and Karen Wisselowski, his managing director
at Cambridge. At Peer, they let me come in a
volunteer for four months, get a taste, get involved, and
while I was up there, I realized Okay, where can
I make a contribution? And because of my background and

(01:09:27):
where I've lived and a lot of other things, it
was like politics, political engagement of the issue because I
had come to learn something. By then, in spite of
all the research that had been done and all the
evidence had been piled up by citizen science researchers, activists,
documentarists and contact these the government still said, Yah, it's

(01:09:48):
nothing to it, all.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Right, and they've continued to maintain that position even now
through official reports were to come. We'll wrap up our
conversation with Stephen Bassett right after.

Speaker 8 (01:10:00):
This into the pair of normal pair of.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
I'm talking with a Stephen Bassett tonight's learning how he
got involved in lobbying for formal disclosure. You've seen enough
in your life, you've read enough, you've seen enough.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
You know there's something to this, right, Steven. That's what
it comes down to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
Absolutely certain, no doubt. There's a technologically non human presence,
overwhelming odds it's extraterrestrial. We have craft, we have programs,
we have bodies. That is to me, essentially an absolute certainty.

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
And that would also include people being taken by these entities. Yes,
examined on yes, and communicated with in a variety of ways,
telepathically and otherwise primarily telepathic.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
And there's an active cover up of this that is continuing.
Who is behind this cover up? Are there members of
the government that are involved? And then peel back a
few more layers and it goes deeper than that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Right, I encourage people not to use cover up. It's
a truth embargo. It's a legal policy of the government.
You don't cover up legal policies. So they have embargoed
the truth on this as a national security mandate and
it's and that means it's a legitimate legal policy, and

(01:11:55):
that the problem was not science and proof. Why they
an effort couldn't succeed because it's a political decision, and
so it needs a political solution. And so I didn't
do much lobbying, but I was the first lobbyist and
that got me attention and got me into this field.
Since then, I've done a lot of different things. I'm
back on the hill a little more. That's good, you

(01:12:15):
can be back on the hill. But it had to
have a political solution. And the political solution I ultimately
came to define around two thousand and one was a
confirmation event from the head of state. It had to
be that. I mean, I'd seen astronauts talk about it.
Plenty of high level people had come out going back
to the fifties and sixties saying, oh, yeah, I think
this is true. But no, unless the heads of state

(01:12:37):
come out, we're not going anywhere. We're not going to
get access to information. It's going to still be shut shutters.
That was the political solution, and so that point it
was like, Okay, got to get disclosure. That's why I'm
in this, That's what I'm going to do now. I
think it would take thirty years. No, I didn't think

(01:12:57):
it would take thirty years, but let me see. You
know it has. And that's but that's the deal. When
you go activists like that, when you're challenging the government,
you are in a tough situation, and you and everybody
are in a tough situation. This movement is essentially eighty

(01:13:18):
years old. Hardcore activism is more like twenty to twenty five.
Some of the other major activist movements of the twentieth
century took eighty ninety one hundred years. So I can't
complain it's a big issue. But if it happens soon.
That's not too bad, given how important it is and

(01:13:41):
how committed the government was to denying it. I'll accept it.
But I'm of an age where I'm running out of leeway.
I'm getting you know, I want to finish this, but
it's increasingly becoming problematic. I have a few other colleagues
in the same boat. But that's ego, that's personal. It'll

(01:14:05):
happen when it happens, but it must happen, and I
give long presentations on why it must happen, like it's
even more interesting. But I'm optimistic. I believe it will
be positive. ADS are not a threat. There's some awkwardness there.
We can start it out. It is probably the single
most important thing we can do to avoid doing something

(01:14:28):
really stupid in the next year or so, because you know,
we can really do stupid things when we want to.
The history is just filled with it, going back ten
thousand years. We're constantly finding ways to do awful stuff.
The chance of avoiding that going forward, that's our best shot.
We've got to change the whole dynamic. We've got to

(01:14:51):
alter worldview, we've got to enter a new place, and
so that we start thinking about everything on this planet, ourselves,
the countries, the resource to tech everything from a new
perspective and sort out what works, what is constructive, and
get rid of what doesn't work, and what's destructive, in
which case we have a viable civilization. We know it's

(01:15:13):
possible because there are other quite a few, I believe,
engaging US civilizations with very high technology that are here.
They did not destroy themselves. They didn't build death stars
and blow up planets like in the Star Wars. So

(01:15:34):
we know it's possible, and it may be that the
only way a evolving civilization on a biosphere like ours
or any biosphere can get through the technological curve and
get to where we are and survive because it's tough,
it's brutal, is by additional help from a civilization that

(01:15:56):
has already done that. This is common sense. It's not complicated. Okay,
It's like, you know, there are some kids that there's
no way they're going to graduate from high school without
a tutor, and so there are tutor In a way,
I still see it that way. Now, it's more complicated
that yet, it may come down to that the physics
of the world, of this of this world is constant.

(01:16:19):
It's the same everywhere in the galaxy. And so you
get advanced life on a planet, it's got the same physics.
It's going to find atomic bombs, lasers and what everything else.
And if it's violent, if it's evolved out of a
violent process and stayed violent, then it's going to start
destroying everything. And so this is not new. It's been
repeated untold millions of times, maybe billions of times in

(01:16:41):
the last thirteen billion years. It's our time, right, and
it's happening now. What are the odds? What are the
odds in a thirteen billion year old universe that you
and I would be alive when one of the planets
reached that moment when it has to transition and needs
the help of an outside civilization or more you are
to make it through. And we're here. I mean, my god,

(01:17:04):
we won the lottery from the day we were born,
which is why I never went anything else because I've
used up all my luck. But that's really what it
comes down to. This is about to happen. We're here
to watch it, and odds against that are staggering.

Speaker 7 (01:17:19):
Do you think this documentary age of disclosure will be
a problem? Has it become a problem for is what
you call the Truth in Bargo managers or will they
take efforts to suppress it and hope that people just
forget about it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):
Well, it's they've they've lost on that already. It's not
anything but suppressed. This thing is ultimate gone. This particular
doc which is ye, it's not overwhelmingly incredible, but it's
damn good mostly, But it's a sledgehammer the way it's designed.
It is a sledgehammer pounding on the door of the
Truth in Bargo and there they can't get away from it.

(01:17:58):
It's gonna just crush them. And then there's gonna be
other filmmakers out there that are going to see that
and go I can do even better than that. And
so it's it's really it's really a sign that we're
very much near the end of the end. It's something
that I was hoping would come out. Dabbled myself. There

(01:18:18):
had some colleagues that have tried to get there. They
created some great docks, but they couldn't quite get to
the here what the this doc is doing. Because finally
Hollywood A lister Dan Harrah unlike any other Hollywood list
A lister, though JJ Robbins and Spielberg put out a
couple of series which engaged this issue finally, but Dan

(01:18:45):
has gone far further. This is a film that is
built like a sledgehammer, designed to take the damn truth
and bargo down. Nobody's done that, and out of Hollywood.
He had the money, he had high tech, they had
all the bells and whistles that you have to create
a documentary that could get nominated for an Oscar, And
this may very well get nominated for an Oscar, which

(01:19:07):
would be a first. Right. So again, I'm saying things
right now to you that if I had said forty
five years ago, there would be people showing up with
a straight jacket and they'd be carting me off.

Speaker 7 (01:19:19):
Sure, yeah, you're definitely it's definitely safer to be making
these statements now than it was back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
You got that, right, Stephen.

Speaker 7 (01:19:29):
We certainly hope that there is much progress that happens
between now and the end of the year, and we
look forward to talking with you when this all takes place.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
All right, I hope all your listeners get that doc
off of Amazon and watch it, and then down the
line we can talk about it some more. I'll be
at one of the premiers because I happen to be
in Washington and I'll be heading up there on the
twenty first.

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
We'll always love talking with you, Steven, best to you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (01:20:01):
All right, Stephen Bassett, Paradigm Research Group and the Hollywood
Disclosure Alliance. It's always a great talking with him about
what's been happening with disclosure. If we get any word
that there's going to be a hearing or any developments,
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