November 5, 2025 • 51 mins
Some stories don’t just inspire—they recalibrate what you believe is possible. Today we sit down with Dr. Sue McCready, a pediatrician who turned her hardest season into a blueprint for thriving. After multiple miscarriages, a vivid dream pointed to clotting. Baby aspirin, acupuncture, and a deeper dive into methylation genetics helped her welcome a healthy child—and transformed the way she serves women through midlife and beyond.
We unpack the practical and the profound. Sue shares a mind flip question that can change the trajectory of a hard day—what’s great about this—and the mantra that kept her steady: I’m sculpting my soul. We talk about authenticity as a magnet, how people-pleasing hides our gifts, and why owning quirks can be a bridge to the right partners, clients, and friends. Sue opens her coaching toolkit, from Tony Robbins’ six human needs framework to pattern-spotting that turns stuck loops into fresh choices. If you’ve ever wondered why certainty keeps you small or how growth can become your top priority, this segment will find you where you are.
Then we go deep on hormones. Estrogen is queen, with receptors on nearly every cell, which is why perimenopause can feel like a symphony of symptoms—brain fog, eczema, migraines, mood swings, sleep shifts. We discuss testing, lifestyle foundations, and how to think about hormone therapy with nuance rather than fear. Sue also introduces her Midlife Personality Quiz—visionary, inspirational, giver, and detail mamas—so you can lean into strengths and guard against common traps like perfectionism or burnout. We close with a compass that never fails: what would love do, whether love means setting a boundary or taking courageous action.
If you’re ready to stop surviving and start living on purpose, this conversation offers both science-backed steps and soul-level guidance. Listen, share with a friend who needs hope, and tell us: what’s the one shift you’re making this week? Subscribe, leave a review, and help more women find their way to a life they truly love.
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Cassandra (00:25):
All my listeners, and I'd like to welcome you to Is
Your Way in Your Way.
And for my new listeners,that's actually the title of my
book.
So I'm like, why not have apodcast talking about Is Your
Way in Your Way?
And we actually talk abouttopics related to
self-improvement, um, maybebusiness improvement, uh,
(00:49):
self-development, and all thosetypes of things.
And our topic today is going tobe God's greatest gifts come in
fascinating packages.
I cannot wait to hear that.
But before we dive in, I wantto remind you that this podcast
exists for every woman who'sever stood in her way.
(01:12):
Whether it's fear, self-doubt,unfulfillment, being
disconnected from your purpose,or the lies we believed for so,
so long, it's time to releasethe blocks and rise into who you
were always meant to be.
My and today's guest, Dr.
Sue McCready, embodies thatjourney beautifully.
(01:35):
Oh, I can't wait.
So, from her medical doctor tosoul for transformation guide,
Sue helps women navigate midlifeshifts with grace, science, and
deep spiritual wisdom.
So, if you're ready to stopsurviving and start thriving in
your midlife and beyond, thisepisode is for you.
(01:56):
And let me introduce you to Dr.
Sue McCready.
Sue (02:03):
Good day, Dr.
Sue.
Thank you so much for havingme.
Oh my gosh, I'm like backstage,like snap, snap.
Yeah, yeah, right.
I know, I know.
Cassandra (02:13):
I am so I am so psyched, listeners, about this
conversation.
And you'll see why as we couldas we dive in.
So if in fact you were sittingdown, you may want to take a
journal and write some notes.
If you're driving, you knowbetter.
But the good thing about it,you can replay this and replay
it and replay it, and also shareit with your friends or
(02:37):
individuals who you believe thiswill be in their best interest
because I know you have some.
But before we get started, Ilike to read Sue's bio only
because I want you to get toknow her.
I want you to understand alittle bit about what qualifies
(02:58):
her to talk about what we'regonna talk about.
So she is a pediatricphysician, turned soul full
transformation guide to amidlife woman.
After navigating her ownbattles with hormonal imbalance,
miscarriages, and identityshifts, she now helps women in
(03:20):
their 40s, 50s, and 60sreconnect to their inner
compass, what she calls soul formedicine.
Soul for medicine, guys.
Through a unique blend ofscience-backed strategies and
spiritual tools like tarot andemotional decoding, she empowers
(03:41):
women to break free fromexhaustion, loneliness, and
feeling lost in the grind.
And recently, and gently, shereclaims the joy and fulfillment
they were made for.
Wow, let's dive in, Dr.
Sue.
Let's tell my listeners, yeah,what was your life like before
(04:04):
you became a physician?
What was going on with you?
Sue (04:09):
Well, I am the baby of five.
And so there was a lot of, Iwould say, organized chaos in
our family.
All right.
With mom and dad.
And we were definitely a verylike um, you know, close family
with you know traditions, likeuh a very big tradition of ours
(04:30):
is, you know, like every Sundaywe go to church, you know.
So I was raised in like a veryfaith-based uh household.
I'd be remembered my parents,like if I was out for sleep
bubbles, they were in thatfriend's driveway, like
tick-tock, so at the time Ithought it was very annoying,
(04:52):
and now I can see as a parent ofthree just how foundational
that was for me.
So I think that's a big part ofwhat was going on before I
became a doctor.
The other thing is my mom.
So my mom is 90 at the time ofthis recording, and she was a
registered nurse, an emergencyroom registered nurse.
(05:13):
And back in the day when youcould bring your child to work,
including the emergency room, Iwas following her around the
emergency room, and it wasreally just this pivotal moment
of like, mom, wow, I really likethis.
I'm gonna do what you do.
Okay, my mom is a bit if you ifyou end up taking the
(05:35):
personality quiz that we'regonna share.
My mom is a visionary mama,she's also a detail mama, but
she is like very much wants tocall the shots.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Right, okay.
Sue (05:47):
Oh so she said very lovingly, don't be because she's
a nurse.
I said, Mom, I want to be anurse.
She said, Don't be a nurse, bea doctor, don't take the orders,
give the orders.
Oh, okay, okay.
So that just really shifted mypath and my and then I was just
(06:09):
like, okay, I'm going to medschool, you know, and that was a
lot easier said than done.
So before I became a doctor, Iflunked to the MCAT, which is
the entrance exam, to become toget into medical school.
Oh, essentially, I sort offlunked one portion of it and
(06:31):
needed to retake it again inorder to get accepted into
medical school.
And that same mama is standingbehind me, just hand on both
shoulders while I was grindingaway.
Like I totally her faith was sostrong, you know, where I was
doubting myself all over theplace.
(06:51):
Her faith was just on wavering,like this is gonna happen, no
ifs, ands or buts.
And sure enough, I got into medschool and became and became a
doctor.
And I thought, um, which makesa lot of sense now that I'm into
coaching.
I thought I wanted to be apsychiatrist, but once I did
(07:12):
those rotations and realizedwhat what psychiatry meant in
the medical field, I realizedreally quickly that wasn't for
me.
And I've always loved children.
So when I was in my pediatricrotation, I was like, oh, I am
home.
Children make me better, theymake me a better person.
Cassandra (07:30):
Oh, okay.
All right.
So uh it's kind of like likeour title, God's greatest gifts
come in fascinating packages,and we will talk about that a
little more.
So, what qualifies you to dothe work that you're currently
doing?
Or let me ask you this (07:50):
are you still a pediatrician?
Sue (07:53):
I am actually, I am still practicing.
Yes.
Cassandra (07:57):
Okay, wow, you have a big job.
You know, because I want toknow what's empowers you to uh
with women to break free fromthat exhaustion and that
loneliness and feeling lost inthe grind.
What qualifies you to do thattype of work?
Sue (08:13):
Well, I think probably the biggest qualifier is I've been
working with moms in mypediatric practice for over two
decades.
So I think at the time of thisrecording, I'm in my 23rd or
fourth year of practice, whichis crazy.
It's also means that I'veworked with thousands of mamas.
Like I've I've worked in, youknow, being present and helping
(08:37):
them navigate often verypainful, uncomfortable, sticky
situations, right?
So I think that's probably mybiggest qualifier.
Um, and also that I'm a midlifewoman as well, and mother of
three.
And it was really the moms ofmy practice, honestly,
Cassandra, that that helped menavigate my pathway in terms of
(08:59):
how to help them, because theyalways got them.
What about me?
How can you help me?
What about me, Dr.
Sue?
And I was like, oh, I don'twant to do functional medicine
for adults, and so I try topivot all these different ways.
And actually, this is my sixthentrepreneurial journey, the
coaching business, and the fifthway of me being able to serve
(09:21):
these mamas.
So believe me, I have beenaround the block on figuring out
ways in terms of how I can bestserve them.
And this was the one where youknow, where you land on
something, I was like, wow, thisis my second calling.
This is my lane.
I'm in my lane.
Like this is what you know, Godcalled me to do here.
(09:41):
Okay, you know, because it'sjust like comes really
effortlessly and easily, and um,it's so fun.
Cassandra (09:50):
Really?
Oh, that's great.
Wow.
But I, you know, tell us aboutthe messy process of becoming
who you are today.
Sue (10:00):
Tell us about that.
So, probably the messiestprocess and how God's greatest
gift came to me and fascinatinga package is multiple
miscarriages.
So, right around the time whenI was finishing my training as a
pediatric physician, I was alsogetting married.
(10:22):
I was actually the chiefresident at that time, which is
like I finished my pediatricresidency training.
I was in kind of thisadministrative teaching role,
right?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay.
Sue (10:31):
And I just was recently married, and I thought, get
married, have kids.
Like that's that.
So my expectation was once youget married, our intention is to
have kids, then you get to havekids.
And so that's not how it rolledfor us.
How it rolled is that Iactually had three miscarriages
(10:53):
before having our firstdaughter.
And that was really, I feellike when um I don't know how
else to explain it, but I feltlike my my spiritual growth was
like a foot on the pedal, likeit really accelerated then
because it was so painful tohave these losses.
(11:15):
Like all I wanted to just havea baby of our own to love, you
know.
And I had these reallyfascinating conversations with
God.
I was really teed off.
Like I remember this one run,and I was just yelling and
blurting, like I was pissed.
I was so angry.
Like I've devoted my life tokids, I'm helping kids heal
naturally.
(11:36):
Like, give me that child.
Cassandra (11:38):
Like it was almost like now.
Uh-huh.
Sue (11:42):
Now.
Right, that's right.
And it didn't happen that way.
But I have to say, what Ilearned through the process was
so many ways of alternativehealing.
First of all, that that broughtme to better help the kids that
I'm now helping, you know,which is translated into
hundreds and thousands ofchildren that I've been able to
(12:03):
help from my learning through myjourney of having multiple
miscarriages.
And that relates to nutritionand something called methylation
genetics and things like that.
But I've been able to turn thataround and be like, because of
this, now I can help you becauseI learned something, I grew
(12:24):
through something.
Now let me turn that around andhelp you in your pain.
Cassandra (12:29):
Okay.
Tell us about that, the the umgenetic piece.
What did you call that?
Sue (12:36):
It's called it's called methylation genetics, which is
um a very common geneticpattern.
And I didn't know anythingabout it.
I didn't know that I had it,and that was part of the reason
as to why I was miscarryingthese babies.
But at the time, if you canthink about, I mean, this was 22
years ago.
So at that time frame, wedidn't know that that was part
(12:59):
of the piece of the puzzle, andso it was kind of like we were
walking in the dark, you know.
And um, I had some powerfuldreams.
Oh, okay.
Told me, even though I didn'tunderstand what was going on in
my body, I had this very onepowerful dream.
I don't know if you've ever hadan insight in a dream.
You just wake up, you wake upfrom that dream and you're like,
(13:20):
I gotta go do that.
And the dream was a verypowerful dream where I was I was
the patient, but I was also onlike I the nurse was walking me
around as if I was a doctor, butI was like in my I was in that,
you know, that patient gown.
And the nurse was walking mearound to each of these patients
(13:45):
and showing me their labs, eventhough I was a patient, they
must have known I was a doctor,and showing me the labs that
related to coagulation, likeclotting problems.
And I realized when I got upfrom that dream, I was like, oh
my gosh, I'm clotting off thesebabies.
I don't know why, but I'mclotting off these babies and I
gotta go get started on babyaspirin.
(14:07):
I did start on baby aspirin andbrought our first child into
this world.
There was more than that.
Like I was also gettingreceiving acupuncture and all I
was I was receiving a lot ofsupport.
That but that was like I reallylove that message that came to
me because even though I didn'tknow embethyi is a process that
can lead to clotting, right?
(14:28):
So even though I didn't haveany process of cognitive
understanding of being able tounderstand that yet, like clear
message came through.
Go start on baby aspirinsister.
And I did.
Cassandra (14:43):
That's that's a miracle.
That's a miracle, yeah.
Total miracle, yeah.
Yeah, that is, and you knowwhat?
I like what you did, and for mylisteners, you were determined,
you were kind of like your mom,yeah, you know.
Um, I want to have a baby, andI don't understand why why I'm
(15:04):
not be able to.
And and then you had the threemiscarriages, and then you had
three girls.
So three girls.
Yeah, and that's amazing.
And and because of that, andthat's why I say um in this in
this podcast, uh, is your way inyour way?
Because there's certain thingsthat we as women would like, and
(15:27):
when it doesn't happen, we giveup, or or we we use that and
says, Well, maybe it wasn'tmeant to be, or you know, then
you deflate it because thingsdidn't happen.
But what you did is number one,you got angry with God, and
listeners are not saying angry,I'm not saying that because I've
(15:49):
been angry with God.
I mean, I have a chapter in mybook called The Chair, and I
will that's for another podcast,but I was so angry with God,
and it was just unbelievable.
And once that incidentoccurred, what I did, then I had
a revelation the following day,and for you, you had a dream.
(16:10):
I had a dream, so yeah, so Godcame to you in your dream,
right?
Yes, and and I can relate tothat because God speaks to me
through my dreams, so wedefinitely have some
similarities, and that's why wesay uh the greatest gifts come
in fascinating packages, andyour faith really helped you get
(16:34):
through this, and that to me isjust a blessing.
Um, because it kind of helpsyou, even though you're angry,
like, okay, I'm I'm gonna belike my mama, I'm gonna be
determined, I'm gonna have thisbaby, I'm not gonna have any
more miscarriages, and then herevealed to you, and that
happened for somebody else, youknow.
Although we go through things,a lot of things that happen to
(16:56):
us is not really for us, it'sfor somebody else, for us to
tell the story to them to sharethat there is hope in that.
Wow, now, yes, yes, yeah, mygoodness.
Now, I want to talk about youtalked about a the mind flip
question.
Okay, now it's a mind flipquestion that changes
(17:22):
everything.
Tell us about that mind flipand how my listeners could use
that because many of them arestuck and living their best life
on their terms, they kind ofknow what it is, but they just
can't seem to get there.
So let's talk about that mindflip uh questions.
Sue (17:43):
So I get to credit this question to one of my mentors
that I learned this from, TonyRobbins, and he has this
question.
It's one of the firstquestions, you know, when hits
the fan, when you're just likewhen you're getting angry or mad
or frustrated.
By the way, all emotions,right, are messages, and anger
(18:05):
is a great motivator.
If you channel that anger inlove in the right direction, you
are gonna hit somewhere, right?
So um so the question is what'sgreat about this?
So, like everything isapparently going wrong, which by
the way is only our limitedview lens, your limited view
(18:27):
lens at the time, um, becauseoften your way is in your way.
It's just to bear back to you,right?
But in these moments, if youcan just ask, like, hmm, what's
great about this?
Yeah, it can really help yourmind shift to, well, what's
(18:48):
great about this?
Like, and I want to say, I knowthat this isn't, I don't want
to say this is just like I Ithink about that time and I'm in
those multiple miscarriages.
You know, I wasn't like, hey,what's great about this?
You know, I that wasn't thatwasn't a tool that I use at that
time.
I didn't know the tool.
(19:09):
Um, however, I do find itreally helpful um as to when
things I feel like things aren'tgoing my way, right?
To just say, well, what's greatabout this?
And I think one of the bestanswers to what's good about
this is that I'm sculpting mysoul.
That's what I answer.
(19:30):
I'm sculpting my soul.
I am here sculpting my soul.
I am getting that baby ripped.
Like I am figuring shit out.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Wow.
Cassandra (19:43):
Exactly.
Sue (19:44):
And it may look messy and it may not look right to me.
And also, I believe it's God'sway, universe way, source way,
whatever you want to say, likeit's happening for me, right?
It's happening for me andthrough me for me to turn around
and share my gifts and mylearnings with someone else.
So what's great about this, Ithink, is a great flip.
(20:06):
You can use it anytime in anysituation, whether it's health
condition, right?
Whether it's a challengingrelationship, right?
Um, whether it's uh difficultyin work, you know, uh it really
can be used anywhere.
Yeah, you just lean in withcuriosity.
(20:27):
It's almost like you put yourhand, you know, you put your
hand on your chin, just lean inand be like, wow, what's great
about this?
Cassandra (20:35):
What's great about this?
Right, right.
That's interesting, even evenin the toughest times, if you
can reach yourself, you know,because sometimes I think of
times in my life where it was sotough, I couldn't even pray.
I didn't want to pray, youknow, I don't want to call out
to God, but that's interesting,and I will definitely use that.
(20:56):
Like, what's what's great aboutthis?
And I could use that when um Iwas starting my podcast.
I'm over a hundred and somenow.
Sue (21:05):
Oh, congratulations!
Cassandra (21:06):
And I was like, I can't do this.
What am I gonna say?
You know, it was like, oh mygosh, you know, so that was all
those limiting beliefs thatprevented me from doing what it
is that I really wanted to do.
So next time I said, Well,what's great about this?
And then I could have said,blessing other women, empowering
(21:29):
women, yeah, take it off of meand put it on the others.
So I like that.
It's kind of like a spiritualreframe, very much so.
Yeah, yeah.
Sue (21:43):
Wow, and if you and if you're in the rough and tumble,
like maybe you come up with yourversion of I'm sculpting my
soul, I'm growing, you know.
Um, something that makes youremember, like to me, I feel
like that's why we're here.
We're here to sculpt your souland be love, figure out all the
ways of like how to embody loveand be love and be loving,
(22:03):
right?
And be loved, receive love.
Okay, yeah.
Cassandra (22:07):
And if you're not growing, I said you're dead.
I mean, that's right.
You're right.
Like, what why are you here?
You know, and I used to askmyself, Well, why am I here?
You know, um, but you know, youI read something about you that
blew my mind, and it was amoment for me.
And one of the things you saidis living a life you love, I
(22:33):
mean you really love, you startgetting to really know yourself
intimately, understand who youare, um, your strengths, your
quirks, and incredible ways youcan authentically make a
difference.
And that really struck me.
And you know, I have anaccountability partner.
One of our questions we askeach other every week, did you
(22:55):
have an aha moment this week?
And sometimes I didn't lovethat about this.
And my aha moment when I wasreading this comment that you
stated was I am living a lifenow that I really love.
I so enjoy empowering women.
I'm on this mission to helpwomen to start living their best
(23:20):
life on their terms.
And when I, because of thatmission, you know, I also have a
uh a signature program calledthe Rise Journey, and and and
then my program is Rise BeyondLimits to help women get get
from where they are to wherethey want to be.
I'm like, wow! And by that, I'mbeginning to know who I am.
(23:43):
I know what I know what I don'tlike, I know where my
boundaries are, and that'sbecause we are doing what it is
that we love to do.
Now, if we don't, that's whenwe get confused, and those those
living your life to thefullest, it brings you joy, you
know, and that's why you knowI'm on this mission to support
(24:06):
and empower other women.
So I just want to thank you forthat because you're living a
life you love right now, isn'tthat correct?
Sue (24:14):
I am living a life I love a thousand percent.
Yeah, that doesn't mean thatit's easy, by the way, it's not
all rainbows and unicorns, andby the way, I definitely still
(24:47):
get in my own way, and that'swhat I break down every day.
I'm like, how are you gettingin your way?
So let's break it down, let'sget in there.
Cassandra (24:54):
That's right, that's right.
So, because you're loving whatyou're doing, what have you
learned differently than youknew before?
What what what have you learnedabout yourself?
So much so much.
Sue (25:14):
I mean, definitely owning my gifts, you know, like I am
very too much.
I was once in this leadershipconference or leadership program
or whatever, and the womansaid, Sue, I would vote for you,
but I think will drown in yourtears.
Cause I was like so, soemotional.
(25:36):
Yeah.
So I'm very, um, you know, I'man empath.
I'm very I'm very emotional andI connect very easily.
And so, like learning that, youknow, sometimes we we kind of
know our gifts, but we tend toshut them off because we they're
not accepted.
They, you know, somethinghappened along the way, right?
(25:58):
And so then we kind of shutdown our gifts and we start
trying to people please and beall these things that we're not,
you know.
And when I finally came backand just started owning, like,
well, that's who I am, you know,I'm kind of this weird, radiant
woman.
I'm a medical doctor and andwho loves tarot numerology.
(26:22):
Like, if I can just like own itand say, well, this is what
makes you unique and different.
That's quirky.
That's kind of strange.
I don't know how all thosethings go together.
But yet when when you're, youknow, you lean in and get
curious about seeing how itdoes, and then God, I feel like
God and source have really givenme a way to like, well, it's
like staring, you're like tarotnumerology, it's like staring at
(26:45):
an inkblot.
You ever seen those things thatpsychologists use?
Stare at the ink blot.
What do you see?
Like that.
It's just it's just a way toaccess your subconscious, which
as you know, controls, you know,the majority of your thoughts
and feelings and behaviors andhabits and therefore actions and
therefore results.
So if we don't get underneaththere, right?
(27:05):
We're just swimming on thesurface trying to make change
when the vast majority of it isunderneath.
So really just I thinkaccepting like who I fully am.
And by the way, I'm still inthe process.
I think I'll always be in theprocess.
Yeah.
Cassandra (27:22):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You're right.
It's not always a rainbow.
Sue (27:27):
It's not always a rainbow.
And it's, and you know, also isother, you know, you have other
relations, other people comingalong with you, right?
That are either like, is thisall right, or is this not all
right?
Can I accept this about hertoo?
Or is this just like not okay,right?
And so I think that that'sreally where I've been able to
step in and and fully lovemyself, is I think that's really
(27:52):
about living a life you love isabout fully loving yourself.
And not denying your quirks andyour gifts to try to adjust who
you are to fit into somebodyelse's realm.
When God made you to be here,to be love in your unique way.
(28:15):
And once you own that, you'relike, hey, this is pretty
freaking fun.
Even when it is challenging,it's fun.
Cassandra (28:22):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So, yeah, because to me,authenticity is transformative.
You know, when you can takethat mask off, those blinders
off, and be you.
It's amazing.
But then, you know, the the thechildhood and all the stuff
that your experiences, yourpersonal experience, business
(28:43):
experience puts those blocks onyou, you know, and and that's
why, and like like we both said,it's not, hey, it's not easy.
I had a friend that used tocall my mom a lot, and I
remember one day he said, Youknow, I'm not calling your mom
anymore for a while.
And I'm like, Why is that?
He said, Because she's alwayshappy, and I'm not happy today.
(29:07):
And I said, She was probablyputting on, she probably wasn't
happy either, but she got to puton the happy face and the happy
voice because you on the on theline.
I said, So don't get ittwisted.
She's not cool, you know.
Um, and if you're always happyto me, something's wrong.
Like, what's wrong with thatperson?
And you also, when you get tothat spot, you attract things in
(29:33):
your life, yes, yeah, likepeople that are negative and and
that energy drawn out of you,they kind of dissipate.
I'm like, no, no, no, becausethey're drawing my energy away
from me.
So I I love what you said.
That was my aha moment, and Ican't wait to write that because
I have accountability meetingstomorrow.
Sue (29:54):
Oh, beautiful.
Yeah, yeah.
I also think like the flip ofthat, right?
Authenticity is magnetic.
Like, so one of the things Iwould do is I'd selectively
share myself.
I don't know if you've everdone this before.
Like, so when you're feelingsafe with some peeps, then
you'll kind of come out of thecloset about something, right?
But then over here in thiscorner, you're like, eh, not
(30:15):
sharing that, right?
So one of the things I've beencalling myself forward to was
just get curious, what if you doshare?
You know, and I remembersharing with someone who I was
like, I don't know, we've justhad funny kind of conversations.
So and he stuck back, he waslike, I like this, Dr.
Sue.
Meaning, like, I like thisversion of Dr.
Sue, the number.
Cassandra (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Sue (30:38):
That's such a good reminder for me because you cannot draw
the right people in, right?
If you're just not showing themwho you Truly are.
I think that's just been one ofthe biggest lessons I continue
to learn.
Cassandra (30:52):
Right.
And and people know if you'reperpetrating the fraud.
I mean, I do.
I can sense it.
Like, oh, they're not.
No, I don't believe whatthey're saying.
Yeah, right.
Wow.
You talked about how importantcoaching was to midlife women.
It's important.
Why is that?
Sue (31:12):
I think of midlife, I don't know how you think about it,
but I think of as thistransition.
There was a lot of identityshifting happening.
I remember saying, so I'm thebaby of five.
So to my oldest sister, I waslike, How is this like menopause
thing?
And I think it was like, andhere I am a doctor.
I'm like, I haven't got in ayear or two.
She's like, Sue, it's likeadolescence.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Hi.
Sue (31:34):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
It's like a span, a span ofyears.
And so I really started toshift and think about, you know,
that's why I think coaching isso supportive during this time.
Because at this time, you maybe, you know, in your 40s, 50s,
and 60s, maybe shifting aboutwhat you want to do for work.
(31:55):
Like what you used to do feltgreat, but now of a sudden it's
like not feeling so great.
It's not a great fit anymore.
Or you may be, you know, inyour 50s and 60s or wherever,
and your kids are now out of thehouse.
And a lot of like, well, who amI if I'm not a mom in the mom
way that my kids are home allthe time, right?
(32:15):
And so you start reallyfiguring out other parts of your
identity.
And we have so all of us haveso many parts.
We're not just one thing, youknow, we're we're many things.
And so really getting curiousabout how to live authentically
and kind of cultivate thatsustainable happiness, not just
like the fleeting joy when yourkids come home and then you're
(32:37):
happy and then they leave.
And then you're looking atmaybe this partner that you're
not a little disconnected from,you know.
I don't know.
There's endless.
So there's definitelyrelationships, you know, in
terms of even those changing,right?
That's a big if you've been,you know, raising kids together,
and then your kids leave, andthen you're with this partner,
and you're like, huh, I kind oflike it when the kids are around
(32:58):
more.
Right.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Exactly.
Sue (33:02):
Those type of things, yeah, those type of things I think
can just be really supportive tohave kind of a shifting
perspective.
Because I feel like incoaching, to me, it is really
just about asking, get leaningin, getting curious, and asking
questions, right?
More than anything else.
And also helping you identifypatterns because, like we like
(33:25):
to say in coaching, it's notyou, it's just a pattern, right?
It's just a pattern of youthat's in your way, right?
So if you want to change, youget to change the pattern,
right?
See the pattern, use thepattern, create a new pattern.
So see the pattern, like, wow,that's not working for me right
now.
Used to work in childhood, itused to help me draw, survive,
(33:48):
and receive love, you know, beloved, but that is just not
working for me anymore, right?
And I love that moment whenthey're like, Oh my gosh,
because my dad was like this,I'm projecting that at my work
environment, you know, and it'sjust like all the light bulbs go
out.
Because once you can see it,then you can actually get the
(34:09):
pattern to you, like use thepattern for you rather than
getting hooked around by thepattern, right?
And then step in and create anew pattern.
Now that you see it, you'relike, wow, what do I want to
create with this?
This is powerful stuff.
Cassandra (34:21):
Yeah, I know.
Awareness is key, recognizingit, calling it out.
It's so, it's so key.
Um, you mentioned over the pastfive years, you got thousands
of midlife women throughpersonal growth, transformation,
um, using provenresearch-backed techniques
(34:42):
combined with real support.
What type of proven um researchresearch techniques have you
used?
Sue (34:51):
Oh, well, I mean, so so many.
I think a lot of my frameworkshave been, you know, um in from
Tony Robbins, is a big mentor ofmine, and he's had Stanford
actually research um some of hisworks and frameworks.
And, you know, oh my gosh,there's so many.
(35:14):
I'm trying to think about oneof them that I absolutely love
and I think is about six humanneeds psychology and the
framework that all of us share,six the same six human needs,
yeah, but we all prioritize themdifferently, and we all have
ways of meeting those needsdifferently.
And so if you want to be in arelationship with somebody, you
(35:40):
get to meet their top two needs.
You get to lean in and getcurious about like what are your
top two needs, right?
And and and ways that you canmeet them.
And so without getting into allthe specifics of that, that
alone, like that framework,which has been, you know, he's
shown and developed thatframework.
He's been using that frameworkfor probably over 40 years
(36:02):
across the globe with millions.
So um, and you know, I thinkthat that's one of the most
powerful frameworks where peopleare like, huh, you know, and
they really start to again,they're able to separate
themselves so that they can seethis, these are my top two
needs, this is this person's toptwo needs, and this is why this
(36:24):
isn't meshing, right?
Or even in terms of your ownlife.
Like if you look in terms ofyour own life, like what are
your top driving needs, right?
And you'll see if you want toshift into a new pattern, you
might need to reprioritize yourneeds.
And one of the biggest needsthat people prioritize top is
the need for certainty, the needfor control, the need to feel
(36:46):
comfortable, safe, right?
And if you put that on top ofevery other of the needs, which
are the needs to have varietyand significance and love and
connection and growth andcontribution, you are gonna have
a very different life thansomeone who puts growth at the
top.
Cassandra (37:04):
Exactly.
That is so true.
That is so true.
Uh-huh.
Sue (37:09):
Um, so that's one of the proven frameworks that I use.
Cassandra (37:12):
Okay, that's good.
That's good because they reallyhave to think about what are my
two top needs, you know.
In some instances, we did anexercise at my church about
what's your love language.
Yeah, you know, so it's good toknow that what's their
temperament, you know, things ofthat nature.
(37:32):
So, okay, I like that.
I want to talk a little bitabout hormones.
Um the reason I want to talkabout that because I also have a
chapter in my book abouthormones.
Oh how the hormones are nojoke.
That's what I'll say.
(37:54):
Um and and every one womanexperiences them a little
differently, you know.
We talk about menopause and umpost menopause, all of that kind
of stuff.
Why, from your perspective as amedical doctor, even though
you're in pediatrics and andkids have hormones too, but
(38:17):
what's so unique about hormones?
Why are they important to knowabout, especially in midlife?
Sue (38:29):
What's the impact?
I think one of the mostprofound things I learned from a
holistic gynecologist that Iwas interviewing for one of my
summits at the time.
And she, you know, she saidestrogen is on every there are
(38:49):
estrogen receptors on everysingle cell in your body, which
means estrogen can affect everysingle system of your body, it
is a master hormone and itdeclines during menopause,
right?
And she had this fascinatinganalogy, which I just I was
(39:13):
like, that's so brilliant.
But basically, she thinks ofyou know, well, I won't get into
it, but basically that's why Ithink I think that's why I feel
like it's so I mean, if it's aif it's on every cell of your
body in the physical world,estrogen is queen, yeah, she is
(39:33):
important.
Cassandra (39:34):
That's right.
Sue (39:35):
Very and if you don't figure out how to support this
queen uh you know during yourlifetime, which is what her
point was like this isn't justlike, oh, we got to this period,
and now like let me run in andsupport you.
The point was you best besupporting her all along the way
with your diet and lifestyle.
You're probably gonna have aneasier transition through
(39:57):
menopause if you are, and you'renot gonna feel like you fell
off a cliff, right?
Yeah, um, and so it was reallymy talk with her.
It's like, huh.
It's like that's it's such agreat way to see it and really
give it um the stardom that itdeserves, basically.
You know, it's on every singlecell that makes an affect every
(40:19):
single system, yourcardiovascular, your nervous
system, your digestive system,obviously your hormonal system,
right?
Cassandra (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wanted to bring that up a bitbecause I I dived off a cliff.
Um and it was very painful, andI had no clue what was wrong
with me.
I'm like, I am losing my mind,and that's why I wanted to bring
that up in a book because youyou get foggy.
(40:51):
Um but every woman's not likethis, but there's some women
that just feel down, lifeless,you know.
And I always say, get yourhormone levels checked.
Because you're right, estrogenis queen, estrogen is life that
gives you that vitality, youknow, you draw people to you
because you're feeling good, andthen even um testosterone, even
(41:15):
though men have it, that couldbe you're not feeling as
confident, you know.
That's why they feel allconfident and everything, and
then you have that progesterone.
So I always tell individualjust to get your levels checked,
and it's good from a holisticdoctor because a lot of doctors
don't believe in it, they'relike, Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.
Sue (41:34):
And it's kind of gotten the bad rap, which is part of what
our discussion was on.
And like there, I had anotherdoctor on that debunked the
whole thing, and there's ittakes a long time to debunk
something that you know that'sbeen around for a while, but
there was a lot of flaws withthat initial research, right in
terms of hormonal replacementtherapy, right?
(41:55):
Yeah, and yeah, so I I lovesupporting my hormones, it's
been a huge help for me.
And I like I like the yeah,some people are foggy, some
people get eczema, simple juststart to have allergies.
Like the whole list is likeeverything.
I remember the joke was I get anew symptom and I'd text my
(42:17):
OBJan friend, and she'd be like,Yep, that's menopause.
I was like, Oh my god,everything is everything,
everything, and it makes sensebecause with the other doctors
saying, Yeah, it's on everysingle cell in your body, so it
can affect every single systemfrom your immune system with
allergies, right?
And I was like, This is like afunny joke on women.
(42:38):
I was honestly like, I waslike, this is crazy, you know.
Um, and so I've been I I'veworked with a physician who does
believe in hormone testing andhormone replacement, and and
even with that, you know, it waskind of a wild ride because
your hormones are in you know,during perimenopause, they're
(42:59):
really hard to like targettherapy because they're kind of
still like jumping up and down,right?
And then you get to the sideseven out.
So even with that, it can be alittle, a little testy of a
ride.
Cassandra (43:10):
Yeah, it can.
Even you know, women have saidmy hair is falling out,
hormones, you know, just youdon't know what you don't know.
I'm getting migraines all thetime, exactly hormones, exactly.
So I just you know wanted toexpose that to my listeners,
it's a possibility, and to getthat chat.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I love that.
Cassandra (43:32):
So important, yeah.
It really is.
Now we have one more question.
Well, first of all, um I lovewell, listeners.
Dr.
Sue has what you call a midlifepersonality quiz.
And I would like for you toshare with your with my
(43:54):
listeners where you can findthat quiz and what can you find
out about the quiz.
Sue (44:02):
Yes, so you can go to dr Sue McCready.com and you it'll
say right there, take the quiz.
Then you can push that buttonand answer 11 questions.
And what you'll find out isyour strength.
So to sum this up, I kind ofbucket midlife mamas into four
(44:23):
categories the visionary mama,the inspirational mama, the
giver mama, and the detail mama.
And the visionary mama, I thinkof Beyonce.
She'd be like twirl on themhaters.
You know, she's got her, she'sgoing somewhere, she's got her
vision and she's going.
Um, you know, the downfall ofsome visionaries is they can
(44:43):
have rough and tumble withrelationships because you know,
they've got a vision and theymight just plow some people over
in the way to get there.
Right, you know, then theinspirational mamas are what
they sound like, they'reinspirational.
They are they see the glasseshalf full, right?
The problem, their downfall islike everything looks great.
Shiny objects are everywhere,so they can get very distracted.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, right.
Sue (45:07):
And then the giver mamas, like it sounds like they're the
givers, they're like the mama ofall mamas.
We all have those in our lives,hopefully.
You know, the person you justgo to and you just bury your
head in there.
They're like they just wrapyour arms around their giving to
them is as easy as breathing.
The downfall of the giver mamais she can become a doormat, you
know, like people step on her,you know, she's like, Why not
(45:28):
resentful?
Why are you resentful?
Because boundaries, girl,boundaries, right?
And then the detail mama, Ilove the detail mamas because
they I surround myself withdetails.
Like I say, the divine is inthe details, the divine is in
the details.
And if you aren't looking atthose details, down to your
eyes, crossing your T's, gettinginto the spreadsheets, looking
(45:49):
at the details of life, you maymiss a pattern, uh like a big
pattern.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah.
Sue (45:54):
Um, and so though the detail mamas, they're like the
spreadsheet makers, they're thepeople who are like, listen up,
Sue, you're going here, you'repicking up this group here, and
you're taking them there.
You know, they're just likethey got it all together.
Um, the downfall of the detailmama is perfectionism.
They're so busy crossing,totting their I's and crossing
their T's, they may not get offthe starting block.
You know, it's never quite goodenough, right?
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Right.
Right.
Sue (46:18):
So getting in there and learning, you know, and the
truth is, Cassandra, we all haveall parts of these to us,
right?
But we tend to like hang outand hover in one or two.
And so once you learn what yourgifts are, you can really
accentuate your gifts andhighlight some key problem
areas.
And then, like, I like I'm aninspirational mama.
(46:39):
So my downfall, biggestdownfall is details.
So I hire detailed people.
I have my VA who does all thetechie stuff, right?
I have a business coach andconsultant who is a detail mama.
I I hire these people so thatI'm surrounded by them, you
know, and that helps, you know,I learn through them.
(47:01):
So I grow that as well, but Idon't, I don't try to take their
their beauty as like, andthat's a big thing about what I
love of all the mamas comingtogether, as you know, in your
community, right?
Like to me, that's where themagic is.
Yeah, because you'll just haveeach of us like calling each
other forward, like you know,Sue, get a plan, follow it,
(47:23):
let's go, you know.
Cassandra (47:24):
Yeah, okay.
I love that.
Um, my listeners out there,just so you'll know whether you
care or not, I'm a detail mama.
And I already know my my faultis perfectionism, everything has
to be right, but I justencourage you to take that
(47:46):
personality quiz.
Uh, as Dr.
Sue indicated, we all havepieces of it within ourselves,
but yet it's fascinating to me.
And I just also we're gonnahave to wrap up this podcast,
unfortunately, for me, becauseI'm enjoying this conversation.
(48:06):
Dr.
Sue, is there anything you wantto share with the listeners
that are stuck?
They know what it is that tolive their best life on the
attendance, but they'restruggling getting there.
Any advice?
Sue (48:22):
I think my biggest advice, I this is another question I
like to ask, is in that moment,like when you're sitting there
and maybe you're stuck or you'reoverwhelmed or you're scared or
whatever, like kind ofdisempowering place you're in.
I like to ask the question,what would love do?
(48:43):
Like if you were to embodylove, because I believe our
natural essence and our naturalstate is love.
Like we really know that's whyit feels so comfy when we're in
a loving state.
That's why it feels beautifuland expanding when we're in a
loving state.
Um, and it's not a contractedplace because usually in those
contracted places when we'restuck or overwhelmed or scared
(49:06):
or fearful, we're in afear-based state.
The opposite is is love.
So just getting curious andasking, what would love do?
Because love, love, like Idon't you probably can rip off
the scripture, but it's a lot ofthings, right?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Right.
Sue (49:25):
And sometimes love lays down some serious boundaries,
yeah.
Right?
Sometimes love is like openingup and getting vulnerable.
Sometimes love says, giveyourself more grace, you're
being too hard on yourself, youknow.
So I think the possibilitiesare endless.
So that's what I wouldrecommend.
Cassandra (49:43):
Yeah, that's good.
Love is the greatest, it is thegreatest.
Well, Dr.
Sue McCready, I want to thankyou.
Um you are so right, God'sgreatest gifts come in
fascinating packages, and I amso grateful for all the nuggets
(50:03):
uh which you're bringing to theworld.
I am glad you're in a goodplace and you're living your
best life.
That's a beautiful thing.
And listeners, as I always sayto you, and I said in the
beginning, please share thispodcast with individuals that
you know this will be ablessing, particularly those
(50:25):
who've had miscarriages, andjust to hear what Dr.
McCready said about that.
Uh, just the faith had so muchto do with that as well.
And I again thank you.
And as I always say to mylisteners, God bless you.
God bless you, Dr.
McCready.
And bye for now.
(50:45):
Thank you so much, all of you.
Sue (50:48):
Thank you.
All my listeners, and I'd like to welcome you to Is
Your Way in Your Way.
And for my new listeners,that's actually the title of my
book.
So I'm like, why not have apodcast talking about Is Your
Way in Your Way?
And we actually talk abouttopics related to
self-improvement, um, maybebusiness improvement, uh,
(00:49):
self-development, and all thosetypes of things.
And our topic today is going tobe God's greatest gifts come in
fascinating packages.
I cannot wait to hear that.
But before we dive in, I wantto remind you that this podcast
exists for every woman who'sever stood in her way.
(01:12):
Whether it's fear, self-doubt,unfulfillment, being
disconnected from your purpose,or the lies we believed for so,
so long, it's time to releasethe blocks and rise into who you
were always meant to be.
My and today's guest, Dr.
Sue McCready, embodies thatjourney beautifully.
(01:35):
Oh, I can't wait.
So, from her medical doctor tosoul for transformation guide,
Sue helps women navigate midlifeshifts with grace, science, and
deep spiritual wisdom.
So, if you're ready to stopsurviving and start thriving in
your midlife and beyond, thisepisode is for you.
(01:56):
And let me introduce you to Dr.
Sue McCready.
Sue (02:03):
Good day, Dr.
Sue.
Thank you so much for havingme.
Oh my gosh, I'm like backstage,like snap, snap.
Yeah, yeah, right.
I know, I know.
Cassandra (02:13):
I am so I am so psyched, listeners, about this
conversation.
And you'll see why as we couldas we dive in.
So if in fact you were sittingdown, you may want to take a
journal and write some notes.
If you're driving, you knowbetter.
But the good thing about it,you can replay this and replay
it and replay it, and also shareit with your friends or
(02:37):
individuals who you believe thiswill be in their best interest
because I know you have some.
But before we get started, Ilike to read Sue's bio only
because I want you to get toknow her.
I want you to understand alittle bit about what qualifies
(02:58):
her to talk about what we'regonna talk about.
So she is a pediatricphysician, turned soul full
transformation guide to amidlife woman.
After navigating her ownbattles with hormonal imbalance,
miscarriages, and identityshifts, she now helps women in
(03:20):
their 40s, 50s, and 60sreconnect to their inner
compass, what she calls soul formedicine.
Soul for medicine, guys.
Through a unique blend ofscience-backed strategies and
spiritual tools like tarot andemotional decoding, she empowers
(03:41):
women to break free fromexhaustion, loneliness, and
feeling lost in the grind.
And recently, and gently, shereclaims the joy and fulfillment
they were made for.
Wow, let's dive in, Dr.
Sue.
Let's tell my listeners, yeah,what was your life like before
(04:04):
you became a physician?
What was going on with you?
Sue (04:09):
Well, I am the baby of five.
And so there was a lot of, Iwould say, organized chaos in
our family.
All right.
With mom and dad.
And we were definitely a verylike um, you know, close family
with you know traditions, likeuh a very big tradition of ours
(04:30):
is, you know, like every Sundaywe go to church, you know.
So I was raised in like a veryfaith-based uh household.
I'd be remembered my parents,like if I was out for sleep
bubbles, they were in thatfriend's driveway, like
tick-tock, so at the time Ithought it was very annoying,
(04:52):
and now I can see as a parent ofthree just how foundational
that was for me.
So I think that's a big part ofwhat was going on before I
became a doctor.
The other thing is my mom.
So my mom is 90 at the time ofthis recording, and she was a
registered nurse, an emergencyroom registered nurse.
(05:13):
And back in the day when youcould bring your child to work,
including the emergency room, Iwas following her around the
emergency room, and it wasreally just this pivotal moment
of like, mom, wow, I really likethis.
I'm gonna do what you do.
Okay, my mom is a bit if you ifyou end up taking the
(05:35):
personality quiz that we'regonna share.
My mom is a visionary mama,she's also a detail mama, but
she is like very much wants tocall the shots.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Right, okay.
Sue (05:47):
Oh so she said very lovingly, don't be because she's
a nurse.
I said, Mom, I want to be anurse.
She said, Don't be a nurse, bea doctor, don't take the orders,
give the orders.
Oh, okay, okay.
So that just really shifted mypath and my and then I was just
(06:09):
like, okay, I'm going to medschool, you know, and that was a
lot easier said than done.
So before I became a doctor, Iflunked to the MCAT, which is
the entrance exam, to become toget into medical school.
Oh, essentially, I sort offlunked one portion of it and
(06:31):
needed to retake it again inorder to get accepted into
medical school.
And that same mama is standingbehind me, just hand on both
shoulders while I was grindingaway.
Like I totally her faith was sostrong, you know, where I was
doubting myself all over theplace.
(06:51):
Her faith was just on wavering,like this is gonna happen, no
ifs, ands or buts.
And sure enough, I got into medschool and became and became a
doctor.
And I thought, um, which makesa lot of sense now that I'm into
coaching.
I thought I wanted to be apsychiatrist, but once I did
(07:12):
those rotations and realizedwhat what psychiatry meant in
the medical field, I realizedreally quickly that wasn't for
me.
And I've always loved children.
So when I was in my pediatricrotation, I was like, oh, I am
home.
Children make me better, theymake me a better person.
Cassandra (07:30):
Oh, okay.
All right.
So uh it's kind of like likeour title, God's greatest gifts
come in fascinating packages,and we will talk about that a
little more.
So, what qualifies you to dothe work that you're currently
doing?
Or let me ask you this (07:50):
are you still a pediatrician?
Sue (07:53):
I am actually, I am still practicing.
Yes.
Cassandra (07:57):
Okay, wow, you have a big job.
You know, because I want toknow what's empowers you to uh
with women to break free fromthat exhaustion and that
loneliness and feeling lost inthe grind.
What qualifies you to do thattype of work?
Sue (08:13):
Well, I think probably the biggest qualifier is I've been
working with moms in mypediatric practice for over two
decades.
So I think at the time of thisrecording, I'm in my 23rd or
fourth year of practice, whichis crazy.
It's also means that I'veworked with thousands of mamas.
Like I've I've worked in, youknow, being present and helping
(08:37):
them navigate often verypainful, uncomfortable, sticky
situations, right?
So I think that's probably mybiggest qualifier.
Um, and also that I'm a midlifewoman as well, and mother of
three.
And it was really the moms ofmy practice, honestly,
Cassandra, that that helped menavigate my pathway in terms of
(08:59):
how to help them, because theyalways got them.
What about me?
How can you help me?
What about me, Dr.
Sue?
And I was like, oh, I don'twant to do functional medicine
for adults, and so I try topivot all these different ways.
And actually, this is my sixthentrepreneurial journey, the
coaching business, and the fifthway of me being able to serve
(09:21):
these mamas.
So believe me, I have beenaround the block on figuring out
ways in terms of how I can bestserve them.
And this was the one where youknow, where you land on
something, I was like, wow, thisis my second calling.
This is my lane.
I'm in my lane.
Like this is what you know, Godcalled me to do here.
(09:41):
Okay, you know, because it'sjust like comes really
effortlessly and easily, and um,it's so fun.
Cassandra (09:50):
Really?
Oh, that's great.
Wow.
But I, you know, tell us aboutthe messy process of becoming
who you are today.
Sue (10:00):
Tell us about that.
So, probably the messiestprocess and how God's greatest
gift came to me and fascinatinga package is multiple
miscarriages.
So, right around the time whenI was finishing my training as a
pediatric physician, I was alsogetting married.
(10:22):
I was actually the chiefresident at that time, which is
like I finished my pediatricresidency training.
I was in kind of thisadministrative teaching role,
right?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Okay.
Sue (10:31):
And I just was recently married, and I thought, get
married, have kids.
Like that's that.
So my expectation was once youget married, our intention is to
have kids, then you get to havekids.
And so that's not how it rolledfor us.
How it rolled is that Iactually had three miscarriages
(10:53):
before having our firstdaughter.
And that was really, I feellike when um I don't know how
else to explain it, but I feltlike my my spiritual growth was
like a foot on the pedal, likeit really accelerated then
because it was so painful tohave these losses.
(11:15):
Like all I wanted to just havea baby of our own to love, you
know.
And I had these reallyfascinating conversations with
God.
I was really teed off.
Like I remember this one run,and I was just yelling and
blurting, like I was pissed.
I was so angry.
Like I've devoted my life tokids, I'm helping kids heal
naturally.
(11:36):
Like, give me that child.
Cassandra (11:38):
Like it was almost like now.
Uh-huh.
Sue (11:42):
Now.
Right, that's right.
And it didn't happen that way.
But I have to say, what Ilearned through the process was
so many ways of alternativehealing.
First of all, that that broughtme to better help the kids that
I'm now helping, you know,which is translated into
hundreds and thousands ofchildren that I've been able to
(12:03):
help from my learning through myjourney of having multiple
miscarriages.
And that relates to nutritionand something called methylation
genetics and things like that.
But I've been able to turn thataround and be like, because of
this, now I can help you becauseI learned something, I grew
(12:24):
through something.
Now let me turn that around andhelp you in your pain.
Cassandra (12:29):
Okay.
Tell us about that, the the umgenetic piece.
What did you call that?
Sue (12:36):
It's called it's called methylation genetics, which is
um a very common geneticpattern.
And I didn't know anythingabout it.
I didn't know that I had it,and that was part of the reason
as to why I was miscarryingthese babies.
But at the time, if you canthink about, I mean, this was 22
years ago.
So at that time frame, wedidn't know that that was part
(12:59):
of the piece of the puzzle, andso it was kind of like we were
walking in the dark, you know.
And um, I had some powerfuldreams.
Oh, okay.
Told me, even though I didn'tunderstand what was going on in
my body, I had this very onepowerful dream.
I don't know if you've ever hadan insight in a dream.
You just wake up, you wake upfrom that dream and you're like,
(13:20):
I gotta go do that.
And the dream was a verypowerful dream where I was I was
the patient, but I was also onlike I the nurse was walking me
around as if I was a doctor, butI was like in my I was in that,
you know, that patient gown.
And the nurse was walking mearound to each of these patients
(13:45):
and showing me their labs, eventhough I was a patient, they
must have known I was a doctor,and showing me the labs that
related to coagulation, likeclotting problems.
And I realized when I got upfrom that dream, I was like, oh
my gosh, I'm clotting off thesebabies.
I don't know why, but I'mclotting off these babies and I
gotta go get started on babyaspirin.
(14:07):
I did start on baby aspirin andbrought our first child into
this world.
There was more than that.
Like I was also gettingreceiving acupuncture and all I
was I was receiving a lot ofsupport.
That but that was like I reallylove that message that came to
me because even though I didn'tknow embethyi is a process that
can lead to clotting, right?
(14:28):
So even though I didn't haveany process of cognitive
understanding of being able tounderstand that yet, like clear
message came through.
Go start on baby aspirinsister.
And I did.
Cassandra (14:43):
That's that's a miracle.
That's a miracle, yeah.
Total miracle, yeah.
Yeah, that is, and you knowwhat?
I like what you did, and for mylisteners, you were determined,
you were kind of like your mom,yeah, you know.
Um, I want to have a baby, andI don't understand why why I'm
(15:04):
not be able to.
And and then you had the threemiscarriages, and then you had
three girls.
So three girls.
Yeah, and that's amazing.
And and because of that, andthat's why I say um in this in
this podcast, uh, is your way inyour way?
Because there's certain thingsthat we as women would like, and
(15:27):
when it doesn't happen, we giveup, or or we we use that and
says, Well, maybe it wasn'tmeant to be, or you know, then
you deflate it because thingsdidn't happen.
But what you did is number one,you got angry with God, and
listeners are not saying angry,I'm not saying that because I've
(15:49):
been angry with God.
I mean, I have a chapter in mybook called The Chair, and I
will that's for another podcast,but I was so angry with God,
and it was just unbelievable.
And once that incidentoccurred, what I did, then I had
a revelation the following day,and for you, you had a dream.
(16:10):
I had a dream, so yeah, so Godcame to you in your dream,
right?
Yes, and and I can relate tothat because God speaks to me
through my dreams, so wedefinitely have some
similarities, and that's why wesay uh the greatest gifts come
in fascinating packages, andyour faith really helped you get
(16:34):
through this, and that to me isjust a blessing.
Um, because it kind of helpsyou, even though you're angry,
like, okay, I'm I'm gonna belike my mama, I'm gonna be
determined, I'm gonna have thisbaby, I'm not gonna have any
more miscarriages, and then herevealed to you, and that
happened for somebody else, youknow.
Although we go through things,a lot of things that happen to
(16:56):
us is not really for us, it'sfor somebody else, for us to
tell the story to them to sharethat there is hope in that.
Wow, now, yes, yes, yeah, mygoodness.
Now, I want to talk about youtalked about a the mind flip
question.
Okay, now it's a mind flipquestion that changes
(17:22):
everything.
Tell us about that mind flipand how my listeners could use
that because many of them arestuck and living their best life
on their terms, they kind ofknow what it is, but they just
can't seem to get there.
So let's talk about that mindflip uh questions.
Sue (17:43):
So I get to credit this question to one of my mentors
that I learned this from, TonyRobbins, and he has this
question.
It's one of the firstquestions, you know, when hits
the fan, when you're just likewhen you're getting angry or mad
or frustrated.
By the way, all emotions,right, are messages, and anger
(18:05):
is a great motivator.
If you channel that anger inlove in the right direction, you
are gonna hit somewhere, right?
So um so the question is what'sgreat about this?
So, like everything isapparently going wrong, which by
the way is only our limitedview lens, your limited view
(18:27):
lens at the time, um, becauseoften your way is in your way.
It's just to bear back to you,right?
But in these moments, if youcan just ask, like, hmm, what's
great about this?
Yeah, it can really help yourmind shift to, well, what's
(18:48):
great about this?
Like, and I want to say, I knowthat this isn't, I don't want
to say this is just like I Ithink about that time and I'm in
those multiple miscarriages.
You know, I wasn't like, hey,what's great about this?
You know, I that wasn't thatwasn't a tool that I use at that
time.
I didn't know the tool.
(19:09):
Um, however, I do find itreally helpful um as to when
things I feel like things aren'tgoing my way, right?
To just say, well, what's greatabout this?
And I think one of the bestanswers to what's good about
this is that I'm sculpting mysoul.
That's what I answer.
(19:30):
I'm sculpting my soul.
I am here sculpting my soul.
I am getting that baby ripped.
Like I am figuring shit out.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Wow.
Cassandra (19:43):
Exactly.
Sue (19:44):
And it may look messy and it may not look right to me.
And also, I believe it's God'sway, universe way, source way,
whatever you want to say, likeit's happening for me, right?
It's happening for me andthrough me for me to turn around
and share my gifts and mylearnings with someone else.
So what's great about this, Ithink, is a great flip.
(20:06):
You can use it anytime in anysituation, whether it's health
condition, right?
Whether it's a challengingrelationship, right?
Um, whether it's uh difficultyin work, you know, uh it really
can be used anywhere.
Yeah, you just lean in withcuriosity.
(20:27):
It's almost like you put yourhand, you know, you put your
hand on your chin, just lean inand be like, wow, what's great
about this?
Cassandra (20:35):
What's great about this?
Right, right.
That's interesting, even evenin the toughest times, if you
can reach yourself, you know,because sometimes I think of
times in my life where it was sotough, I couldn't even pray.
I didn't want to pray, youknow, I don't want to call out
to God, but that's interesting,and I will definitely use that.
(20:56):
Like, what's what's great aboutthis?
And I could use that when um Iwas starting my podcast.
I'm over a hundred and somenow.
Sue (21:05):
Oh, congratulations!
Cassandra (21:06):
And I was like, I can't do this.
What am I gonna say?
You know, it was like, oh mygosh, you know, so that was all
those limiting beliefs thatprevented me from doing what it
is that I really wanted to do.
So next time I said, Well,what's great about this?
And then I could have said,blessing other women, empowering
(21:29):
women, yeah, take it off of meand put it on the others.
So I like that.
It's kind of like a spiritualreframe, very much so.
Yeah, yeah.
Sue (21:43):
Wow, and if you and if you're in the rough and tumble,
like maybe you come up with yourversion of I'm sculpting my
soul, I'm growing, you know.
Um, something that makes youremember, like to me, I feel
like that's why we're here.
We're here to sculpt your souland be love, figure out all the
ways of like how to embody loveand be love and be loving,
(22:03):
right?
And be loved, receive love.
Okay, yeah.
Cassandra (22:07):
And if you're not growing, I said you're dead.
I mean, that's right.
You're right.
Like, what why are you here?
You know, and I used to askmyself, Well, why am I here?
You know, um, but you know, youI read something about you that
blew my mind, and it was amoment for me.
And one of the things you saidis living a life you love, I
(22:33):
mean you really love, you startgetting to really know yourself
intimately, understand who youare, um, your strengths, your
quirks, and incredible ways youcan authentically make a
difference.
And that really struck me.
And you know, I have anaccountability partner.
One of our questions we askeach other every week, did you
(22:55):
have an aha moment this week?
And sometimes I didn't lovethat about this.
And my aha moment when I wasreading this comment that you
stated was I am living a lifenow that I really love.
I so enjoy empowering women.
I'm on this mission to helpwomen to start living their best
(23:20):
life on their terms.
And when I, because of thatmission, you know, I also have a
uh a signature program calledthe Rise Journey, and and and
then my program is Rise BeyondLimits to help women get get
from where they are to wherethey want to be.
I'm like, wow! And by that, I'mbeginning to know who I am.
(23:43):
I know what I know what I don'tlike, I know where my
boundaries are, and that'sbecause we are doing what it is
that we love to do.
Now, if we don't, that's whenwe get confused, and those those
living your life to thefullest, it brings you joy, you
know, and that's why you knowI'm on this mission to support
(24:06):
and empower other women.
So I just want to thank you forthat because you're living a
life you love right now, isn'tthat correct?
Sue (24:14):
I am living a life I love a thousand percent.
Yeah, that doesn't mean thatit's easy, by the way, it's not
all rainbows and unicorns, andby the way, I definitely still
(24:47):
get in my own way, and that'swhat I break down every day.
I'm like, how are you gettingin your way?
So let's break it down, let'sget in there.
Cassandra (24:54):
That's right, that's right.
So, because you're loving whatyou're doing, what have you
learned differently than youknew before?
What what what have you learnedabout yourself?
So much so much.
Sue (25:14):
I mean, definitely owning my gifts, you know, like I am
very too much.
I was once in this leadershipconference or leadership program
or whatever, and the womansaid, Sue, I would vote for you,
but I think will drown in yourtears.
Cause I was like so, soemotional.
(25:36):
Yeah.
So I'm very, um, you know, I'man empath.
I'm very I'm very emotional andI connect very easily.
And so, like learning that, youknow, sometimes we we kind of
know our gifts, but we tend toshut them off because we they're
not accepted.
They, you know, somethinghappened along the way, right?
(25:58):
And so then we kind of shutdown our gifts and we start
trying to people please and beall these things that we're not,
you know.
And when I finally came backand just started owning, like,
well, that's who I am, you know,I'm kind of this weird, radiant
woman.
I'm a medical doctor and andwho loves tarot numerology.
(26:22):
Like, if I can just like own itand say, well, this is what
makes you unique and different.
That's quirky.
That's kind of strange.
I don't know how all thosethings go together.
But yet when when you're, youknow, you lean in and get
curious about seeing how itdoes, and then God, I feel like
God and source have really givenme a way to like, well, it's
like staring, you're like tarotnumerology, it's like staring at
(26:45):
an inkblot.
You ever seen those things thatpsychologists use?
Stare at the ink blot.
What do you see?
Like that.
It's just it's just a way toaccess your subconscious, which
as you know, controls, you know,the majority of your thoughts
and feelings and behaviors andhabits and therefore actions and
therefore results.
So if we don't get underneaththere, right?
(27:05):
We're just swimming on thesurface trying to make change
when the vast majority of it isunderneath.
So really just I thinkaccepting like who I fully am.
And by the way, I'm still inthe process.
I think I'll always be in theprocess.
Yeah.
Cassandra (27:22):
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You're right.
It's not always a rainbow.
Sue (27:27):
It's not always a rainbow.
And it's, and you know, also isother, you know, you have other
relations, other people comingalong with you, right?
That are either like, is thisall right, or is this not all
right?
Can I accept this about hertoo?
Or is this just like not okay,right?
And so I think that that'sreally where I've been able to
step in and and fully lovemyself, is I think that's really
(27:52):
about living a life you love isabout fully loving yourself.
And not denying your quirks andyour gifts to try to adjust who
you are to fit into somebodyelse's realm.
When God made you to be here,to be love in your unique way.
(28:15):
And once you own that, you'relike, hey, this is pretty
freaking fun.
Even when it is challenging,it's fun.
Cassandra (28:22):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So, yeah, because to me,authenticity is transformative.
You know, when you can takethat mask off, those blinders
off, and be you.
It's amazing.
But then, you know, the the thechildhood and all the stuff
that your experiences, yourpersonal experience, business
(28:43):
experience puts those blocks onyou, you know, and and that's
why, and like like we both said,it's not, hey, it's not easy.
I had a friend that used tocall my mom a lot, and I
remember one day he said, Youknow, I'm not calling your mom
anymore for a while.
And I'm like, Why is that?
He said, Because she's alwayshappy, and I'm not happy today.
(29:07):
And I said, She was probablyputting on, she probably wasn't
happy either, but she got to puton the happy face and the happy
voice because you on the on theline.
I said, So don't get ittwisted.
She's not cool, you know.
Um, and if you're always happyto me, something's wrong.
Like, what's wrong with thatperson?
And you also, when you get tothat spot, you attract things in
(29:33):
your life, yes, yeah, likepeople that are negative and and
that energy drawn out of you,they kind of dissipate.
I'm like, no, no, no, becausethey're drawing my energy away
from me.
So I I love what you said.
That was my aha moment, and Ican't wait to write that because
I have accountability meetingstomorrow.
Sue (29:54):
Oh, beautiful.
Yeah, yeah.
I also think like the flip ofthat, right?
Authenticity is magnetic.
Like, so one of the things Iwould do is I'd selectively
share myself.
I don't know if you've everdone this before.
Like, so when you're feelingsafe with some peeps, then
you'll kind of come out of thecloset about something, right?
But then over here in thiscorner, you're like, eh, not
(30:15):
sharing that, right?
So one of the things I've beencalling myself forward to was
just get curious, what if you doshare?
You know, and I remembersharing with someone who I was
like, I don't know, we've justhad funny kind of conversations.
So and he stuck back, he waslike, I like this, Dr.
Sue.
Meaning, like, I like thisversion of Dr.
Sue, the number.
Cassandra (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Sue (30:38):
That's such a good reminder for me because you cannot draw
the right people in, right?
If you're just not showing themwho you Truly are.
I think that's just been one ofthe biggest lessons I continue
to learn.
Cassandra (30:52):
Right.
And and people know if you'reperpetrating the fraud.
I mean, I do.
I can sense it.
Like, oh, they're not.
No, I don't believe whatthey're saying.
Yeah, right.
Wow.
You talked about how importantcoaching was to midlife women.
It's important.
Why is that?
Sue (31:12):
I think of midlife, I don't know how you think about it,
but I think of as thistransition.
There was a lot of identityshifting happening.
I remember saying, so I'm thebaby of five.
So to my oldest sister, I waslike, How is this like menopause
thing?
And I think it was like, andhere I am a doctor.
I'm like, I haven't got in ayear or two.
She's like, Sue, it's likeadolescence.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Hi.
Sue (31:34):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
It's like a span, a span ofyears.
And so I really started toshift and think about, you know,
that's why I think coaching isso supportive during this time.
Because at this time, you maybe, you know, in your 40s, 50s,
and 60s, maybe shifting aboutwhat you want to do for work.
(31:55):
Like what you used to do feltgreat, but now of a sudden it's
like not feeling so great.
It's not a great fit anymore.
Or you may be, you know, inyour 50s and 60s or wherever,
and your kids are now out of thehouse.
And a lot of like, well, who amI if I'm not a mom in the mom
way that my kids are home allthe time, right?
(32:15):
And so you start reallyfiguring out other parts of your
identity.
And we have so all of us haveso many parts.
We're not just one thing, youknow, we're we're many things.
And so really getting curiousabout how to live authentically
and kind of cultivate thatsustainable happiness, not just
like the fleeting joy when yourkids come home and then you're
(32:37):
happy and then they leave.
And then you're looking atmaybe this partner that you're
not a little disconnected from,you know.
I don't know.
There's endless.
So there's definitelyrelationships, you know, in
terms of even those changing,right?
That's a big if you've been,you know, raising kids together,
and then your kids leave, andthen you're with this partner,
and you're like, huh, I kind oflike it when the kids are around
(32:58):
more.
Right.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Exactly.
Sue (33:02):
Those type of things, yeah, those type of things I think
can just be really supportive tohave kind of a shifting
perspective.
Because I feel like incoaching, to me, it is really
just about asking, get leaningin, getting curious, and asking
questions, right?
More than anything else.
And also helping you identifypatterns because, like we like
(33:25):
to say in coaching, it's notyou, it's just a pattern, right?
It's just a pattern of youthat's in your way, right?
So if you want to change, youget to change the pattern,
right?
See the pattern, use thepattern, create a new pattern.
So see the pattern, like, wow,that's not working for me right
now.
Used to work in childhood, itused to help me draw, survive,
(33:48):
and receive love, you know, beloved, but that is just not
working for me anymore, right?
And I love that moment whenthey're like, Oh my gosh,
because my dad was like this,I'm projecting that at my work
environment, you know, and it'sjust like all the light bulbs go
out.
Because once you can see it,then you can actually get the
(34:09):
pattern to you, like use thepattern for you rather than
getting hooked around by thepattern, right?
And then step in and create anew pattern.
Now that you see it, you'relike, wow, what do I want to
create with this?
This is powerful stuff.
Cassandra (34:21):
Yeah, I know.
Awareness is key, recognizingit, calling it out.
It's so, it's so key.
Um, you mentioned over the pastfive years, you got thousands
of midlife women throughpersonal growth, transformation,
um, using provenresearch-backed techniques
(34:42):
combined with real support.
What type of proven um researchresearch techniques have you
used?
Sue (34:51):
Oh, well, I mean, so so many.
I think a lot of my frameworkshave been, you know, um in from
Tony Robbins, is a big mentor ofmine, and he's had Stanford
actually research um some of hisworks and frameworks.
And, you know, oh my gosh,there's so many.
(35:14):
I'm trying to think about oneof them that I absolutely love
and I think is about six humanneeds psychology and the
framework that all of us share,six the same six human needs,
yeah, but we all prioritize themdifferently, and we all have
ways of meeting those needsdifferently.
And so if you want to be in arelationship with somebody, you
(35:40):
get to meet their top two needs.
You get to lean in and getcurious about like what are your
top two needs, right?
And and and ways that you canmeet them.
And so without getting into allthe specifics of that, that
alone, like that framework,which has been, you know, he's
shown and developed thatframework.
He's been using that frameworkfor probably over 40 years
(36:02):
across the globe with millions.
So um, and you know, I thinkthat that's one of the most
powerful frameworks where peopleare like, huh, you know, and
they really start to again,they're able to separate
themselves so that they can seethis, these are my top two
needs, this is this person's toptwo needs, and this is why this
(36:24):
isn't meshing, right?
Or even in terms of your ownlife.
Like if you look in terms ofyour own life, like what are
your top driving needs, right?
And you'll see if you want toshift into a new pattern, you
might need to reprioritize yourneeds.
And one of the biggest needsthat people prioritize top is
the need for certainty, the needfor control, the need to feel
(36:46):
comfortable, safe, right?
And if you put that on top ofevery other of the needs, which
are the needs to have varietyand significance and love and
connection and growth andcontribution, you are gonna have
a very different life thansomeone who puts growth at the
top.
Cassandra (37:04):
Exactly.
That is so true.
That is so true.
Uh-huh.
Sue (37:09):
Um, so that's one of the proven frameworks that I use.
Cassandra (37:12):
Okay, that's good.
That's good because they reallyhave to think about what are my
two top needs, you know.
In some instances, we did anexercise at my church about
what's your love language.
Yeah, you know, so it's good toknow that what's their
temperament, you know, things ofthat nature.
(37:32):
So, okay, I like that.
I want to talk a little bitabout hormones.
Um the reason I want to talkabout that because I also have a
chapter in my book abouthormones.
Oh how the hormones are nojoke.
That's what I'll say.
(37:54):
Um and and every one womanexperiences them a little
differently, you know.
We talk about menopause and umpost menopause, all of that kind
of stuff.
Why, from your perspective as amedical doctor, even though
you're in pediatrics and andkids have hormones too, but
(38:17):
what's so unique about hormones?
Why are they important to knowabout, especially in midlife?
Sue (38:29):
What's the impact?
I think one of the mostprofound things I learned from a
holistic gynecologist that Iwas interviewing for one of my
summits at the time.
And she, you know, she saidestrogen is on every there are
(38:49):
estrogen receptors on everysingle cell in your body, which
means estrogen can affect everysingle system of your body, it
is a master hormone and itdeclines during menopause,
right?
And she had this fascinatinganalogy, which I just I was
(39:13):
like, that's so brilliant.
But basically, she thinks ofyou know, well, I won't get into
it, but basically that's why Ithink I think that's why I feel
like it's so I mean, if it's aif it's on every cell of your
body in the physical world,estrogen is queen, yeah, she is
(39:33):
important.
Cassandra (39:34):
That's right.
Sue (39:35):
Very and if you don't figure out how to support this
queen uh you know during yourlifetime, which is what her
point was like this isn't justlike, oh, we got to this period,
and now like let me run in andsupport you.
The point was you best besupporting her all along the way
with your diet and lifestyle.
You're probably gonna have aneasier transition through
(39:57):
menopause if you are, and you'renot gonna feel like you fell
off a cliff, right?
Yeah, um, and so it was reallymy talk with her.
It's like, huh.
It's like that's it's such agreat way to see it and really
give it um the stardom that itdeserves, basically.
You know, it's on every singlecell that makes an affect every
(40:19):
single system, yourcardiovascular, your nervous
system, your digestive system,obviously your hormonal system,
right?
Cassandra (40:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wanted to bring that up a bitbecause I I dived off a cliff.
Um and it was very painful, andI had no clue what was wrong
with me.
I'm like, I am losing my mind,and that's why I wanted to bring
that up in a book because youyou get foggy.
(40:51):
Um but every woman's not likethis, but there's some women
that just feel down, lifeless,you know.
And I always say, get yourhormone levels checked.
Because you're right, estrogenis queen, estrogen is life that
gives you that vitality, youknow, you draw people to you
because you're feeling good, andthen even um testosterone, even
(41:15):
though men have it, that couldbe you're not feeling as
confident, you know.
That's why they feel allconfident and everything, and
then you have that progesterone.
So I always tell individualjust to get your levels checked,
and it's good from a holisticdoctor because a lot of doctors
don't believe in it, they'relike, Oh, yes, yeah, yeah.
Sue (41:34):
And it's kind of gotten the bad rap, which is part of what
our discussion was on.
And like there, I had anotherdoctor on that debunked the
whole thing, and there's ittakes a long time to debunk
something that you know that'sbeen around for a while, but
there was a lot of flaws withthat initial research, right in
terms of hormonal replacementtherapy, right?
(41:55):
Yeah, and yeah, so I I lovesupporting my hormones, it's
been a huge help for me.
And I like I like the yeah,some people are foggy, some
people get eczema, simple juststart to have allergies.
Like the whole list is likeeverything.
I remember the joke was I get anew symptom and I'd text my
(42:17):
OBJan friend, and she'd be like,Yep, that's menopause.
I was like, Oh my god,everything is everything,
everything, and it makes sensebecause with the other doctors
saying, Yeah, it's on everysingle cell in your body, so it
can affect every single systemfrom your immune system with
allergies, right?
And I was like, This is like afunny joke on women.
(42:38):
I was honestly like, I waslike, this is crazy, you know.
Um, and so I've been I I'veworked with a physician who does
believe in hormone testing andhormone replacement, and and
even with that, you know, it waskind of a wild ride because
your hormones are in you know,during perimenopause, they're
(42:59):
really hard to like targettherapy because they're kind of
still like jumping up and down,right?
And then you get to the sideseven out.
So even with that, it can be alittle, a little testy of a
ride.
Cassandra (43:10):
Yeah, it can.
Even you know, women have saidmy hair is falling out,
hormones, you know, just youdon't know what you don't know.
I'm getting migraines all thetime, exactly hormones, exactly.
So I just you know wanted toexpose that to my listeners,
it's a possibility, and to getthat chat.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I love that.
Cassandra (43:32):
So important, yeah.
It really is.
Now we have one more question.
Well, first of all, um I lovewell, listeners.
Dr.
Sue has what you call a midlifepersonality quiz.
And I would like for you toshare with your with my
(43:54):
listeners where you can findthat quiz and what can you find
out about the quiz.
Sue (44:02):
Yes, so you can go to dr Sue McCready.com and you it'll
say right there, take the quiz.
Then you can push that buttonand answer 11 questions.
And what you'll find out isyour strength.
So to sum this up, I kind ofbucket midlife mamas into four
(44:23):
categories the visionary mama,the inspirational mama, the
giver mama, and the detail mama.
And the visionary mama, I thinkof Beyonce.
She'd be like twirl on themhaters.
You know, she's got her, she'sgoing somewhere, she's got her
vision and she's going.
Um, you know, the downfall ofsome visionaries is they can
(44:43):
have rough and tumble withrelationships because you know,
they've got a vision and theymight just plow some people over
in the way to get there.
Right, you know, then theinspirational mamas are what
they sound like, they'reinspirational.
They are they see the glasseshalf full, right?
The problem, their downfall islike everything looks great.
Shiny objects are everywhere,so they can get very distracted.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, right.
Sue (45:07):
And then the giver mamas, like it sounds like they're the
givers, they're like the mama ofall mamas.
We all have those in our lives,hopefully.
You know, the person you justgo to and you just bury your
head in there.
They're like they just wrapyour arms around their giving to
them is as easy as breathing.
The downfall of the giver mamais she can become a doormat, you
know, like people step on her,you know, she's like, Why not
(45:28):
resentful?
Why are you resentful?
Because boundaries, girl,boundaries, right?
And then the detail mama, Ilove the detail mamas because
they I surround myself withdetails.
Like I say, the divine is inthe details, the divine is in
the details.
And if you aren't looking atthose details, down to your
eyes, crossing your T's, gettinginto the spreadsheets, looking
(45:49):
at the details of life, you maymiss a pattern, uh like a big
pattern.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah.
Sue (45:54):
Um, and so though the detail mamas, they're like the
spreadsheet makers, they're thepeople who are like, listen up,
Sue, you're going here, you'repicking up this group here, and
you're taking them there.
You know, they're just likethey got it all together.
Um, the downfall of the detailmama is perfectionism.
They're so busy crossing,totting their I's and crossing
their T's, they may not get offthe starting block.
You know, it's never quite goodenough, right?
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Right.
Right.
Sue (46:18):
So getting in there and learning, you know, and the
truth is, Cassandra, we all haveall parts of these to us,
right?
But we tend to like hang outand hover in one or two.
And so once you learn what yourgifts are, you can really
accentuate your gifts andhighlight some key problem
areas.
And then, like, I like I'm aninspirational mama.
(46:39):
So my downfall, biggestdownfall is details.
So I hire detailed people.
I have my VA who does all thetechie stuff, right?
I have a business coach andconsultant who is a detail mama.
I I hire these people so thatI'm surrounded by them, you
know, and that helps, you know,I learn through them.
(47:01):
So I grow that as well, but Idon't, I don't try to take their
their beauty as like, andthat's a big thing about what I
love of all the mamas comingtogether, as you know, in your
community, right?
Like to me, that's where themagic is.
Yeah, because you'll just haveeach of us like calling each
other forward, like you know,Sue, get a plan, follow it,
(47:23):
let's go, you know.
Cassandra (47:24):
Yeah, okay.
I love that.
Um, my listeners out there,just so you'll know whether you
care or not, I'm a detail mama.
And I already know my my faultis perfectionism, everything has
to be right, but I justencourage you to take that
(47:46):
personality quiz.
Uh, as Dr.
Sue indicated, we all havepieces of it within ourselves,
but yet it's fascinating to me.
And I just also we're gonnahave to wrap up this podcast,
unfortunately, for me, becauseI'm enjoying this conversation.
(48:06):
Dr.
Sue, is there anything you wantto share with the listeners
that are stuck?
They know what it is that tolive their best life on the
attendance, but they'restruggling getting there.
Any advice?
Sue (48:22):
I think my biggest advice, I this is another question I
like to ask, is in that moment,like when you're sitting there
and maybe you're stuck or you'reoverwhelmed or you're scared or
whatever, like kind ofdisempowering place you're in.
I like to ask the question,what would love do?
(48:43):
Like if you were to embodylove, because I believe our
natural essence and our naturalstate is love.
Like we really know that's whyit feels so comfy when we're in
a loving state.
That's why it feels beautifuland expanding when we're in a
loving state.
Um, and it's not a contractedplace because usually in those
contracted places when we'restuck or overwhelmed or scared
(49:06):
or fearful, we're in afear-based state.
The opposite is is love.
So just getting curious andasking, what would love do?
Because love, love, like Idon't you probably can rip off
the scripture, but it's a lot ofthings, right?
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Right.
Sue (49:25):
And sometimes love lays down some serious boundaries,
yeah.
Right?
Sometimes love is like openingup and getting vulnerable.
Sometimes love says, giveyourself more grace, you're
being too hard on yourself, youknow.
So I think the possibilitiesare endless.
So that's what I wouldrecommend.
Cassandra (49:43):
Yeah, that's good.
Love is the greatest, it is thegreatest.
Well, Dr.
Sue McCready, I want to thankyou.
Um you are so right, God'sgreatest gifts come in
fascinating packages, and I amso grateful for all the nuggets
(50:03):
uh which you're bringing to theworld.
I am glad you're in a goodplace and you're living your
best life.
That's a beautiful thing.
And listeners, as I always sayto you, and I said in the
beginning, please share thispodcast with individuals that
you know this will be ablessing, particularly those
(50:25):
who've had miscarriages, andjust to hear what Dr.
McCready said about that.
Uh, just the faith had so muchto do with that as well.
And I again thank you.
And as I always say to mylisteners, God bless you.
God bless you, Dr.
McCready.
And bye for now.
(50:45):
Thank you so much, all of you.
Sue (50:48):
Thank you.
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