Cheesy and Fondue talk about cheese art and gas. We talk about cheese as a subject in painting going back thousands of years. We talk portraits, museums, string art, grilled cheese and flatulence. And of course, we tell a very cheesy joke!
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Show Notes
https://fonduevilla.com/cheesy-art-how-cheese-has-changed-the-history-of-arts/
https://mycurioseaty.com/en/say-cheese-a-portrait-of-17th-century-dutch-cheese/
https://www.wisconsincheese.com/art-of-cheese/events/art-of-painting-cheese
https://www.pamm.org/en/artwork/2018.001
https://www.stringcheeseart.com
https://culturecheesemag.com/blog/cheese-artists-instagram/
Science Insights / Why Does Cheese Make Me Gassy
The Cheese Scientist / Can Cheese Make You Bloated
Greatist / Why Can Lactose Intolerant People Eat Some Cheeses
Know The Cheese / Lactose in Cheese: Which Types Are Lowest
Oreate AI / The Cheesy Truth: Does Your Favorite Dairy Delight Lead to Flatulence
Ask The Cheese Snob / Does Lactose Intolerance Equal No Cheese
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Episode Transcript
Just Cheesy the podcastpresented by Just Cheesy Productions.
Hi there. I'm your host, Fondue.
It's Cheesy.
In this week's episode, we'retalking all about cheese, art and
gas. We're talking aboutcheese as a subject in paintings
going back thousands of years.We're talking about portraits, museums,
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string art, and flatulence.And of course, we're gonna tell a
very cheesy joke. Stay tunedfor episod Artsy Fartsy on Just Cheesy,
the podcast. Earlier thisyear, according to reporting by the
Seattle Times, Denmark'sculture minister announced that the
country would explore whethergastronomy could be formally recognized
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as an art form. And if it goesthrough, Denmark would become the
first nation in the world tolegally place cooking on the same
level as painting, music, or literature.
That's amazing.
I know, right?
Yeah.
There's a chef in Denmarknamed Rasmus Monk, and he says he
doesn't offer dishes at his restaurant.
He doesn't.
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He provides an immersivedining experience. There's music,
there's projections in aplanetarium, there's performance.
And of course, he also offers food.
Yeah.
They say guests at therestaurant can experience 50 impressions,
most of them edible.
Okay.
They. They talk about tryingvarious foods. A large eyeball dish
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featuring caviar and codfisheye gel.
Ew.
Nettle butterflies served atopcheese and artichok. And I guess
this goes on for many hours.Oh, I think it'll be interesting
to see where it goes.
Yeah.
Now, cheese has been a musefor artists for. For thousands of
years.
Thousands.
According to MyCuriosit E A TY, one of the oldest known depictions
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of cheese production is adairy freeze. It's from approximately
2400 B.C.
Holy cow.
Funnest thing. The productionof cheese is shown as if it were
a comic strip. And it cameright out of a temple dedicated to
Samaran deity. Now, I saythis. Fast forward to the 17th century
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Dutch still life painters wereregularly featuring cheese.
They were.
I'm not even going to try topronounce some of this stuff. In
1615, there was a painting inan Amsterdam museum called Still
Life with Cheeses.
Still Life with Cheeses.
There was another one from1623 called Still Life with Cheeses
and Fruit. And one in 1615called Still Life with Cheeses, Almonds
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and Pretzels.
Yum.
I mean, what if you're not afan of 1600s art? Well, we've got
some newer ones.
Okay.
In Portland, Oregon, accordingto the string cheese art website,
an artist named Kelly Parrottmakes handmade string art in the
shape of specific cheesevarieties. This includes cheeses
like Brie, Humboldt Fog, oreven Gouda. On the website, the artist
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said that one craft Night in2000, I gathered together wood scraps,
gingham, fabric remnants,yarn, and nail. Voila. String cheese
art was created. Of course,the artist goes on to say every cheese
loving business, cheese shopor personal gallery wall should have
some string cheese art.
Oh, yeah.
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String cheese art is not asponsor, but if it was, the ad would
go right here at the Perez ArtMuseum, Miami, known as Pam Pam.
The permanent collectionincludes a work called Chopped Cheese.
Yum.
Chopped Cheese is a mixedmedia piece measuring 8ft tall by
7ft wide.
Whoa.
And it depicts the Harlemchopped Cheese sandwich. They say
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the art is about place,community, and what food means to
the people who grew up withit. According to Streets of Toronto,
at the Geary Art Crawl inToronto, a grilled cheese stand was
set up with one rule. You hadto sing a song to get a sandwich.
And there are multiplesculptors of cheese. There's painters
of cheese, and there's even us.
Oh, yeah.
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Cheesy has an artist series.
Yeah, I do.
Where the paintings were madewith actual cream cheese.
Oh, yeah.
Check it out on YouTube. We'llhave a link in our show notes.
Yeah.
Now, I know we all feel alittle artsy, but what about feeling
a little fartsy?
Fartsy.
That's right. Cheese can cause flatulence.
Farts.
But according to scienceinsights and multiple food science
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sources, the answer aboutgetting fartsy depends entirely on
which kind of cheese you're eating.
It does.
Lactose is the primary culpritfor flatulence. When lactose is not
fully digested, it travels tothe large intestine, and then bacteria
ferments and gas is produced,specifically hydrogen, methane, and
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carbon dioxide.
Farts.
According to the GreatestNutrition Guide, approximately 65%
of the world's population hassome degree of lactose malabsorption.
They do.
Two thirds of the worldsuffers from flatulence due to lactose
farts. That got me towondering which cheese is the best?
Yeah. According to scienceinsights, hard aged cheeses like
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Cheddar, Parmesan and agedGouda contain less than 1 gram of
lactose per serving. So duringthe aging process, starter bacteria
converts lactose into lacticacid. After a few months of aging,
virtually no lactose remains.It often falls below the limit of
detection in lab tests. Thismeans that those hard cheeses are
less likely to cause symptoms,even for people with significant
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Lactose sensitivity.
Yeah.
Fresh cheeses are anotherstory. According to the Cheese Lactose
Guide, ricotta, cottagecheese, and cream cheese keep a lot
more of the lactose becausethey've had a lot less time to age.
They hold more moisture and whey.
No way.
Yes way. This seems like asurprise to me. Cream cheese is one
of the cheeses most likely tocause digestive issues because it
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has a higher combination oflactose content and high fat. Apparently
the fat slows gastric emptying.
It does.
This means the cheese, itspends more time in the digestive
system, which, according toscience insights, can trigger bloating
and discomfort even in peoplewho are not lactose intolerant. We
are not experts, doctors, oreven all that smart.
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Not at all.
But according to greatest.commost people with lactose intolerance
can handle about 12 grams oflactose in a single setting without
major symptoms. A slice ofaged cheddar has a fraction of a
gram. A serving of creamcheese can have several grams, depending
on the portion size.
Right.
They say if you're lactoseintolerant and want to get into cheese,
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try starting off with smallamounts of hard goat or sheep cheeses
and start exploring from there.
I'm ready for a joke fondue.
Okay. What do you call acheese that attends art galleries?
Oh, I don't know.
Cultured.
That's a good one.
Oh, I know. That was a goodone. And it was a little bit cheesy.
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Thanks for listening to JustCheesy, the podcast episode. Archie
Fartsy Artsy. Make sure tofind us at justchatie. Com. Yeah.
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And stay cheesy, everybody.
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