July 4, 2025 • 56 mins
Freedom can mean different things at different stages of life. For Michelle Gbagonah, also known as Michy GH, it began as a rebellious child's desire to escape protective boundaries. Today, it represents something far more powerful – financial independence, mental clarity, and business ownership that builds generational wealth.
This conversation pulls back the curtain on Michelle's remarkable transformation from entertainment personality to strategic entrepreneur. As she shares, "I have been every type of woman," having worked as a musician, TV host, actress, and now CEO of multiple businesses including Juice Bae and Majelle Farms. The turning point came unexpectedly – a business logo designed by her nine-year-old son sparked an entrepreneurial journey she hadn't planned for 2025.
Michelle speaks with refreshing honesty about the environments that previously limited her growth. "Sometimes you can be in a space and feel you are not capable because you're not growing in that space," she reflects. This realization helped her break free from relationships and situations that suppressed her potential, allowing her true capabilities to emerge. Now managing several successful businesses simultaneously, she maintains a disciplined approach to wealth-building that contrasts sharply with her earlier "hands to mouth" relationship with money.
Her agricultural ventures reveal a forward-thinking business mind. With African agriculture projected to be worth billions by 2030, Michelle has positioned herself in this growing market despite challenges with staffing and scale. Her practical advice cuts through typical entrepreneurial platitudes: "On a small scale, farming is lucrative for the market woman, not the farmer," demonstrating her commitment to building substantial, scalable operations.
Whether you're looking to transition careers, start a business, or simply understand the mindset of successful entrepreneurs, Michelle's journey offers valuable insights into authentic growth and financial independence. As she advises those feeling unmotivated: "Start afraid, just start." Her story proves that by following your intuition and maintaining disciplined focus, transformational success is possible.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have struggled becoming Michelle Bagonor today.
If I'm going to be honest, theonly thing I ever craved and
looked for growing up wasfreedom.
What does that freedom mean toyou Now?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
freedom to me is by the year 2030, they said, the
agricultural business in Africais going to be worth billions of
USD.
Put your foot in there nicely.
So I want you to talk methrough what you have done and
(00:34):
how somebody can model that.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Um so.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The 22 year old who's looking at it, thinking I want
to get into farming.
Do you think, at a scale youhave, is it lucrative enough for
them to go into?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, so farming is tricky.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Looking at you on the screen, the energy I see,
cannot be a person.
Somebody can suppress.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I still am in love.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Until I'm in love.
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Today's conversation is withDiamond Michelle Bagona, and
she's a queen mother.
Today's conversation we'regoing to be talking about money,
success, personal growth,transitioning into who she is
today.
Michelle is also known as MichiGH.
(01:39):
She's crafted her own identity,her own path and now, even
though people know her in music,as a tv host, as an actress,
she's transitioned into being abusinesswoman.
And this conversation I justwant to find out why it's taking
her so long to transition intothat business, and then also the
(02:00):
lessons she's learned from herlife, her, her past, everything
that she's been through.
This isn't just a story.
It is about reinvention,financial independence and
emotional growth.
Stick with me and stay with meas I speak with the CEO and the
founder of Juice Bae.
How are you really Like?
(02:20):
That's the question.
Like, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, I'm fine, I'm very fine, I'm all over, if I
can put it that way.
My personalities pop up everynow and then.
You know, so it shows in mywork.
The ads bring out that.
You know.
So I'm okay.
Generally I'm exhausted, butmentally, spiritually, I'm ready
(02:47):
to move every time I wake up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Every single time you wake up, every single time.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I'm ready to move.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Your growth has been beautiful to watch, thank you.
I'm sure your fans, yourfollowers, will testify that
it's been like this.
But then it's been veryexponential and the separation
and the brand that you have nowhas been beautiful.
You know.
(03:15):
Now, looking at where youstarted, it's like you know the
profile has got music, it's gotTV host.
It's like you know the profilehas got music, it's got TV host,
it's got queen mother, it's gotentrepreneur, it's got several
things.
Yeah, the biggest question thatcomes to mind is what's really
(03:35):
the motivation?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Would I call it a motivation?
It's just my personality, myseveral personalities.
It's crazy we're talking aboutthis now because last night I
was putting together like acollage of my journey.
I call it a journey and I havebeen every type of woman.
From my own observation, I havebeen every kind of woman.
(04:05):
I have tried my hands atseveral things.
Would it be a motivation?
I think I'm just in motionevery time.
Within me and outwardly I'm inmotion.
I thrive on moving.
I can't sit at one place and Idon't just want to be moving and
(04:27):
doing nothing.
I'm a jack of all trades,master of all, I try to be.
If I don't know how to dosomething, I would accept the
job.
I'll learn how to do it andgive my best, you know.
So I'm motivated by moving, bymotion, if you can put it that
way yeah, that must have a root.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It must have.
There must be a reason why thatfire keeps burning in you, that
makes you do several things.
If you take it all the way back, where does that come from?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I would give that to my son.
You know, I've always been inmotion, but this time I'm moving
with more purpose, morediscipline, more.
You know I'm more responsiblein my movement.
I'm not just jumping intoanything, you know.
So I say my son is definitelythe root for now, for this new
(05:32):
phase of mine.
Yes, yeah, but before I wasmoving, because I wanted to move
, I wanted to um, it's notalways been about making a mark,
it's just me living andfortunately or unfortunately,
I'm either in trouble for livingor I'm being praised for living
.
Any which way, I'm still living.
(05:53):
So it's just me as a person.
It's just me as a person.
Like I said, I have severalpersonalities.
Okay, talk to me about that Iwake up a different woman every
day.
How I?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
don't know how.
So how have people came up tous today?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Today I'm in my very demure mood.
Let's call it that I'm here tomeet you.
So I'm kind of starstruck.
I'm feeling cool today.
Yesterday I was in work mood,yeah, ready to get things done,
literally enter the marketmyself to sell my harvest
(06:32):
Standing on my truck, mm-hmm,yes.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Standing on it, oh yes.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, I do sell.
I sell a lot of stuff.
So I turned a luxury vehicleinto a work vehicle.
Yeah, so every day I turned aluxury vehicle into a work
vehicle.
Yeah so every day I'm adifferent person.
I'm either calm, I'm hyped, I'mready to, you know, but I never
wake up too dull to move.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You never wake up too dull to move.
No.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm never too dull to move, Maybe just once a month.
The ladies will get it.
Ah right.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, would you say, you're an extrovert.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Extrovert, I say when Right when necessary Okay.
Yeah, but I am 80% an introvert.
I like my solitude, I like myalone time.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, you know, growing up did you find that you
had to prove yourself a lot ofthe time?
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
To family.
Yes, you know, the expectationsare very high sometimes and I,
for one, hardly ever met them.
I only met them with my grades.
For one, hardly ever met them,I only met them with my grades.
So that was always like youknow my way to.
Oh, she's brilliant, but she'sstubborn.
If I'm learning and I'm stilltrying to be a little rebellious
(07:55):
, you know.
Take the good side.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm just trying why are you still expecting.
I'm just trying to match whereyou are today and what you're
doing to how you started offyeah you know growing up,
because and I think you've saidit quite well I can only imagine
that there were times in yourlife where you felt like you had
to do so much to prove topeople that, yes, um, you are
(08:20):
worthy of getting either praiseor recognition or being seen.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah Right, I haven't really struggled with being
seen.
It was more of being seen forthe wrong reasons, wrong reasons
in the people's eyes.
Like I said, unfortunately I'vebeen in trouble and the bad
news, bad press for living.
(08:46):
So to me, I'm living that freebird lifestyle, you know, and
then it ends up.
So I've not really struggledbeing in the light.
I have struggled becomingMichelle Bagoner today and it's
crazy how I'm still notstruggling to be seen.
(09:07):
I'm also not doing too muchbecause I have realized I mean,
I'm living my most authenticself.
I'm, I am my most authenticself right now and you are
taking me as you get me oryou're forgetting about it, but
everybody seems to be liking theauthentic self.
(09:30):
Right, but how long has ittaken you to get here?
um I can't put a duration on it,but I think major change came
in in days.
In a day or so I just woke upand I'm like I need to switch.
I didn't need to.
The mind switched on its own.
(09:51):
So I do take a lot of time withmyself.
Like I said, solitude iseverything to me.
I can think, I can talk tomyself, I can write down my
notes, I can analyze my own self.
I'm my biggest critic.
So if I sit down, I'm like youcan do this better.
I make sure I do it.
You motivate yourself.
(10:11):
Oh, yes, I do.
I do A lot of people that I do,I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
A lot of people that tend to motivate themselves and
push themselves a lot.
They also tend to be Sometimesthe switch can also be on the
emotional side, where they canfind themselves like almost
because sometimes that happensto me right where it becomes
(10:36):
overwhelming okay so much totake.
You see what I'm trying to sayas in the stress or the
motivation the stress, oh ohyeah, it does get overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It does.
As I said, alone time is verynecessary for everybody.
Zone out as and when you can,without thinking of the next
person, unless you're gonna missa business deal or something.
Feel free to zone out.
It's good for your mentalhealth, right.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So, michelle, growing up young Michelle, what plans
did you have for your life?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
This question is hard .
If I'm going to be honest, theonly thing I ever craved and
looked for growing up wasfreedom.
I wasn't the typical child whosaid I want to be a doctor, I
want to be this All those thingswere said by the people around
me, but I, for one, wantedfreedom.
(11:40):
I've always looked for freedom.
I was brought up in a veryprotective home, like to even
leave the house and buysomething.
You know.
Sleepovers, school trips no,never.
So I felt like I was caged.
You know, it was for my own good, yes, but the only thing I ever
(12:04):
wanted growing up was freedom.
So if I ever rebelled, it was asearch for that freedom, you
know, and I still don't haveanything.
I, you know, really say I'mgoing to be this, what I want to
be is fulfilled.
I want to leave a lasting markon the people who come in
(12:26):
contact with me every day, and Isee that happening.
I'm not making too much effort,but a lot of people are taking
inspiration from my life, day in, day out.
I meet ladies, they talk aboutit and I'm not doing anything
too special, I'm just living.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
What does that freedom mean to you?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Freedom, freedom, freedom.
Now, freedom to me is financialfreedom, one Mentally you need
to be free.
You cannot have obsessivethoughts and expect freedom from
anywhere else, because that'sthe entanglement first that you
have to deal with.
So freedom in all aspects,except that I still have my son
(13:11):
here, so I cannot just pick mybag and go somewhere.
But that would have been themajor part of freedom if I could
just pick my bag and gosomewhere when I do you think
you're on that path to thatfreedom?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
you're so searchful.
I am, but you so search for.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I am, but I'm not sure of the opinion that I don't
necessarily need the freedom.
I would have gotten it a longtime ago if I needed it.
Right yeah, you won't get it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, not yet.
Yeah, maybe I'll get it later.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, so you see from home to another place where I
don't have that total freedom.
Now, with my son, I havefreedom.
I don't have that total freedomto just do and move however I
like there's always somethingstanding there to make sure I'm
in check.
(14:01):
It's just how nature has madeit for me.
The universe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I sat down and thought about it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm like yeah so really, there is nothing like
true freedom for you, men yes,there is, but not for women, no,
no.
I mean, I don't think I want toagree with this I don't think I
personally don't think there'sanything like true freedom you
don't think so no well, so faras you are still chasing
(14:34):
something every day, stilllooking for something it's never
ending I can agree with you.
Yeah, yeah.
Because even our, desires boundus here.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Your desires alone.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You know can prevent you from moving being free.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So that's my little understanding of it.
The time came when you, you hada company, mm-hmm, topios,
mm-hmm.
What happened the time came?
When you had a company, ChopYours.
What happened?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Chop Yours is still running, so Chop Yours Foods is
now legally registered, andunder Chop Yours Foods we have
Chop Yours Shitter that'sselling to high school kids.
And then we have Juice Bae.
Juice Bae was designed the logowas designed by my son.
If I tell you that thisbusiness was not part of my 2025
(15:30):
plans, you won't believe it.
What happened?
So, um, I just, you know,changed some things around the
house.
I'm like no more fizzy drinks.
You know, let's go healthy, andat home, I always have to give
something a nickname so that itwould entice my son to kind of
(15:51):
like it.
You know if you're going togive him something.
You know kids don't like theirvegetables and their foods, so
give it a nickname and so it'sjust baby.
I'm like just baby, just baby,okay.
And then I'm sitting therejuicing one time and he comes to
show me on his gadget that hemade a logo with a tagline under
it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Sorry, how old is he?
He's nine Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
He said I should call him a programmer.
A programmer, a programmer.
Wow, but that's incredible.
Yeah, he likes to do thiscoding thing and he made a logo.
I'm like, okay, let me print itout.
You know, on something on apouch, and I went with it.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So the existing logo you're using was created by your
son.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, I've not touched it.
I told the graphic designer whoprinted out that do not touch.
He was even surprised that Iwas a nine-year-old.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You see, sometimes I really think that something
really happens to responsibleparents when they have children.
Okay, Like I don't know, it'slike some wire that I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's happened to me it's happened.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Some people it's marriage, some people it's
children.
Okay, but if you're responsibleenough, if that thought is ever
there, a spouse or a child willdo something to you.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Definitely.
My son did that for me.
My son gave me something thatI've not gotten.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What do you think it is?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's just pure genuine love, a genuine
connection.
It's like he's thinking I'mthinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Like this business entrepreneurship venture you're
on.
Do you think you're doing itbecause of him?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I have always been like an entrepreneur.
I've grown up seeing my mom runseveral businesses at the same
time, so I'll say I got thatfrom her.
But you know, with I have tokeep the home running.
So definitely because of him Igotta work.
But this food business is likeeverything is under the food.
(18:03):
So we're gradually building thecompany.
Okay, it's not like I'm justworking for work and sick.
No, we're building choppy'sfoods as an umbrella.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Right, you know, with several companies under so the
main, like the, the main company, yes, it's choppy's food.
Yes, okay and Okay.
And then everything else.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And everything else Juice.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Bacon everything else yes, and the farm project you
have.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So the farm was supposed to be under that, but I
had to register it on its own.
So we have Chopped Yours Foodsand we have Magelle Farms.
Combination of Michelle andMajesty.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So, really, what's the plan?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like what's the plan for this whole entrepreneurship
ventures like someday, someday,what's the what's the bigger
picture?
Like I said, it's an umbrella.
So we're going to build all thecompanies till they have gone
past survival.
And then we were seeing we'relooking at factories, we're
looking at you know, I alreadyI'm looking at my, my competitor
(19:04):
in the market okay and it's ahuge company.
But you gotta set the dream verybig.
You know, I read a quotesomewhere that says dream as big
as you can and then give thebill to god.
He can afford it.
So me, I, I dream I have boughtthings without pain.
When I say say this, I mean Ihave manifested things.
(19:27):
I have claimed that I boughtthis before I even knew how I
was going to get the money tobuy it Okay.
You know so.
Queen, mother.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You're going to have to explain a little bit.
No, no, no, there's a young guylistening.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's the power of manifestation.
You are who you think ofmanifestation.
You, you are who you think youare.
You are who you believe you.
You get what you believe youget.
So if you are always movingaround like, oh, my business is
struggling, your business willstruggle.
If you are grateful for thelittle progress you have made,
(20:02):
it would increase, you know.
So I feel like I'm manifestingeverything I'm doing.
I have a dream, I have a vision, and it's the pieces are coming
together, you know you'vealways been entrepreneurial.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, I also heard in an interview that you did as
well, but I think we are reallyseeing it now why.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I have an answer to this, but I hope the answer will
not be controversial.
I will try to be as diplomaticas I can Be as diplomatic as I
can.
Until recently, until somehappenings, I probably thought I
was not capable.
This is the first time I'veheld a business over one year,
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and it's not just one, it'sseveral businesses in motion at
the same time.
Sometimes you can be in a spaceand you feel you are not
capable because you're notgrowing in that space.
You are not able to exploreyour own capabilities.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
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Speaker 1 (21:40):
Are you getting it?
I am yeah.
That's as diplomatic as I canget.
I am.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I am.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm surprised at myself sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm verysurprised, Like wow, you're
doing it and you are doing itvery, very well.
You know, before I didn't thinkI was because I've started
businesses you think that theenvironment, the company we keep
(22:17):
, has an influence on us Bigtime, big time.
You are the company you keep onus Big time, big time.
You are the company you keep,and it's either you are pushing
them to grow and forgettingyourself, or expecting that, as
you push them, they come backand push you.
Human nature doesn't work likethat.
It's not a movie, this is not atelenovela.
(22:39):
It's life.
You can be in an environmentwhere you feel you are giving
your all and expecting,consciously or unconsciously,
that the same will be done foryou.
At the end of the day, you'llfind yourself rather being
drained.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Our environment, our network, our circle, when I look
at you and forget like I'm noteven talking about today.
Yeah, Looking at you on thescreen, the energy.
I see, cannot be a person.
(23:20):
Somebody can suppress.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Until I'm in love.
No, seriously, you know, womenwe are naturally like that, some
of us.
Let me not generalize it, but Ifeel women were wired to let a
man shine, you know.
So I always say if I'm going tobe with somebody, you need to
pour into me, I need to see youappreciate what I'm doing.
(23:51):
Not take from me.
Taking from me can be as littleas sarcastic comments.
That can kill.
It can totally kill a businessidea before even you remember
the question I've heard?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I first asked you about little michelle, um what
dreams you had yeah and then youspoke about, you know, seeking
freedom, freedom, yeah.
And then I've just asked youthis question about why you did
not start your entrepreneurialventure earlier on enough, and
what you just said.
Now I'm just thinking at apoint in your life you wanted
(24:30):
freedom away from something.
At a point in your life youwanted to bring out your
entrepreneurial venture, but youcouldn't.
Something was stopping you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's happened twice in your life now.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What lessons have you drawn from that?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's never happening again.
It's never happening again,it's never happening again.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
How do you make?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
sure of that.
I'm grown now.
You know, mentally I'm grown.
I know what I want, I know myworth and I'm not compromising.
No, no, no, no, no, I'm notcompromising.
You are matching my energy oryou are not?
So if I have to do this journeyalone and get to the top, I
(25:13):
will.
We'll meet at the top.
There's no room for another ofthat to happen right now,
Because you know I'm growing.
I'm not getting any younger.
By 40, I should be retired, youknow, lying in my jacuzzi in
Miami somewhere.
That's right, you know.
You speak a lot about yourpension as well.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I was watching some interviews and then you kept
saying you know when I go onpension when I go on pension.
Yeah, yeah, and I said no.
This is such a correct thinkingto have.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Because you know we're not going to be like this
forever.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
The time is going to come where, if you've been
coming up these stairs, you seeme punching.
You're just catching up with me, so we really have to do
something now.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Either you're doing now, building wealth, or you're
just going to continue blamingGod and life.
Sometimes you blame Satan.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But, michelle, fame, fame.
When you have fame here, thispart of the world, what does it
do to you mentally?
Let me keep my thoughts, butlet me ask you what does it do
to you mentally that it makes?
And let me keep my thoughts,but let me ask you, what does it
do to you mentally?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
it can be draining.
It can be draining becauseeverybody has an opinion.
But I always say, like theytalk about what you give them,
you can I give you what I wantyou to talk about?
You know, I don't just give younews, I don't just so.
You got to be cautious.
I don't really consider mefamous no, you don't no okay, I
(26:54):
wouldn't be standing in themarket selling selling juice
made by the road.
No, no, no, no.
If you're going to consideryourself famous when you know
that the bank account is notreflecting famous, then you're
lying to yourself.
You're telling yourself a biglie, you know.
Are you using the fame to buildthat wealth or you're just
(27:15):
going to keep showing up for thepeople who are calling you
famous?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow, that was a lie.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, that was a line .
Yeah, because if you keepshowing up for them, you go
broke trying to prove that youare famous.
They say you are famous.
You got to dress up, dressapart, go to places that cost
money, whereas you can still befamous.
Popular.
Let's call it popular.
Yeah, popular, whereas you canstill be famous, popular, let's
call it popular.
Popular right yeah, yeah yeah,yeah popular and you know kind
(27:49):
of switch the dynamic around,you know usage for your benefit
instead of just being famous.
So I don't consider myselffamous.
No, I don't like the tag.
Actually I'm popular, I don'tlike the tag.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
actually I'm popular.
By the year 2030, they said,the agriculture business in
Africa is going to be worthbillions of USD.
Billions.
You've put your foot in therenicely.
Some of the people that listento me.
It will surprise you that about95% of my audience are young
(28:27):
men 95.
Okay, I don't know why, but Isay that if the conversation is
about how to make money, the menjump on to it Usually if it's
you know entertainment andgossip, then it's something else
yeah yeah, so I want you totalk me through what you have
done and how somebody can modelthat agri-wise.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So, luckily for us, we have a government in power
that's pushing the agricultureagenda and it's a good time to
take advantage.
I'm still in the first phase.
Let's say I've elevated alittle to the second because
we're harvesting.
So we're harvesting okra andcucumbers.
(29:13):
We're growing peppers as wellon a two acre farm.
It's not been all rosy.
It's been quite a journey fromland preparation to harvest,
making mistakes with chemicals,with staff.
So if anybody wants to dofarming, yes you can.
(29:35):
But be ready.
Be ready for the stress.
The Ghanaian employees attitudetowards work will be your first
problem, yes.
So if you come visit me at thefarm, you will realize that my
staff are Nigerian.
Why?
(29:55):
That's what I said the Ghanaianemployees attitude towards work
.
They feel like it's a feelingof entitlement, but they don't
treat foreigners like that whenthey work for foreigners.
I don't understand why, but themore we try to understand, the
(30:16):
more time we're wasting, and sowe just find who's ready to work
.
So it's that you know we're atharvest earlier than I expected.
We're supposed to harvest yes,because they're dedicated and
I'm learning on the job everyday.
You know I'm inviting people tocome help me out.
(30:38):
Advice, what do we do?
What are we doing right, whatare we doing wrong?
So you should also be ready totake lessons from existing
farmers.
You know, doesn't have to be anelderly person like, trust me,
so many people have suchknowledge in farming that it
will surprise you.
They just walk in there likethey don't know what's happening
(31:01):
, yeah, so yeah, we're at apoint where we're ready to
expand.
I'm ready to expand even thoughit's too soon, but I want to be
able to have us on a largerscale, right?
Yeah, I feel like I've, likeyou said, I've done a lot of
jobs.
I've done influencing, and Iknow how much I can make from
shooting a video on my phonefrom the comfort of my home.
(31:23):
So if I'm going to farm, I wantto see the equivalent of that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, makes sense, yeah, to be at that scale.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I'm grateful for where I am, but I can do
much better.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't have to wait till you know I've gained the
knowledge you know, but at thislevel, to you it may not be, but
to the 22 year old who'slooking at it, thinking I want
to get into farming, do youthink at your level, at the
scale you have, is it lucrativeenough for them to go into?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Okay.
So farming is tricky.
On a small scale it's lucrativefor the market woman and not
through the farmer.
Yeah, yeah, because let's sayI'm selling an entire basket of
ochre for 300 series and she'sgoing to count it Five pieces
(32:22):
for maybe four series or fiveseries.
You know how many are in abasket, you understand.
So she's making the money.
But if I'm harvesting on alarger scale 10, 20 acres I
don't have to bother about her,about the market woman sales,
you understand, because I'mgoing to be making more money in
(32:43):
multiples.
So I don't mind, you can.
Definitely, as a young person,I wish I would have started
earlier.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
What's better than feedingyourself?
There's some fulfillment inplucking my own veggies and you
know it's Feed Ghana Project,feed Ghana.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Project indeed For you, a lot of these projects
that you're doing, is it?
You know, sometimes it's likeyou need a lot of.
You like your long time, but,like me, I get bored very easily
, right?
So over the years, I've startedprobably about 16 businesses,
(33:25):
majority of them online, e-comm,dropshipping plenty, okay,
right, because I get bored, so Iwant the next challenge, then
the next, then the next.
I mean, the past few weeks,I've been thinking about this
podcast and I'm thinking, okay,I'm going to add more cameras
instead, instead of five cameras.
Okay, now, I'm going to addmore cameras instead, instead of
five cameras.
Okay, now I'm going to add morecameras.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You almost gave me a heart attack.
Just to increase the challenge.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yes, yes, yes, and now I'm moving the studio to
somewhere else, just to haveround table conversation, so I
get bored very easily For youall these projects that you're
doing, is it because you alsowant some activities happening,
or it's actually deeply rootedin a bigger goal?
You see what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Definitely rooted in a bigger goal and, if you notice
, all my jobs are centeredaround people, so I enjoy taking
care of people, I enjoy beingthe people's person.
You know I'm mother to all, soI find myself doing stuff that
definitely involve.
You know, like I said, thebigger picture, the bigger goal
is the factories for the Jews.
(34:31):
You know expanding, which we'recurrently going to do.
We have an NGO as well.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yes, yes, project SOS .
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
SOS, yes, so now I have three legally registered
businesses that I have to build,and that is my focus for the
next.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
How many years?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Two Okay yeah, okay yeah.
I feel like now I'm in acomfortable lead.
So two years max, I'm in acomfortable lead.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
So two years max.
You know part of the reason whysometimes I keep moving from
one business to the other or inthe past it used to happen a lot
was because when I'm doing onething and maybe this is making
me like $100 a day and then Imove into the next venture and
it's making me $200 and I leavethis one.
Oh no.
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Now I know better.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
so my question is if you get a business that is
making you more money thanyou're making now, would you
just leave these ones and go?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
no, no no, you should have different streams of
income, right?
So for every company I have anaccount.
I don't touch money from here.
I don't touch money from here.
You, you shouldn't just leaveit to me.
That's being inconsistent and Idon't like feeling inconsistent
at all.
Like I said, I felt like thatbefore.
(35:56):
I felt inconsistency to me isnot being capable, and so if
I've tested being capable, I'mnot going back.
If I hold something, I getsomething.
That's making much more.
We're adding it to the routine.
Let's go.
You know, I wish I can clonemyself.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Sometimes, oh, yeah, yeah, because you know you can
count on yourself and get thejob done Seriously.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I would definitely not leave one job hanging for
another.
No, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Awesome.
Now, anyway, on the 29th ofAugust the British Council we
have our first live event andit's titled Revealing the
Success Code.
So it's actually going to beteaching.
It's not going to bestorytelling, like me telling
you my story.
I'm going to teach you somestrategies.
(36:53):
There's going to be a few otherpeople.
There's going to be fivespeakers.
I'm not going to release themyet, so I'm going to put all the
details in the description andyou can register your interest
if you want to show up for thatevent.
Let's talk about what's yourbiggest regret.
(37:21):
And remember this is a learning.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I have to think about that.
Let's not call it regrets, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's call them
lessons.
So I don't have no regrets.
No, if I could go back in time,I'll do a lot of things
differently, but unfortunately Idon't have no regrets.
No, if I could go back in time,I'll do a lot of things
differently, but unfortunately Idon't have the opportunities.
(37:48):
So let's just say everythinghas been a lesson, no regrets.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The young girl that is looking at you now, thinking
what can I learn from her path?
What would you tell them?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Just be yourself and let life take you where you are
supposed to go, not where youwant to go.
Where you are supposed to go.
I say this because becoming aqueen mother was nothing I ever
thought about would happen to me.
And this opportunity comes andit's a total lifestyle change.
(38:35):
At the time, my inner voice wastelling me the same thing.
It's like you've gotten to apoint you need to listen to
yourself.
You realize there's a smallvoice in your head.
The more you listen to it, thelouder it gets, and I can tell
(38:57):
you for a fact that beforebecoming a few weeks, I could
feel changes.
I feel like I'm drawn tosomething else, not what I was
drawn to even probably a fewweeks ago, and I listened to me
in everything Seriously, and sowhen it happened, I'm like let
(39:20):
me take this opportunity, it'sthe step forward.
So I've not planned a life, butI'm allowing life to take me
where I'm supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's because you are in a place of knowing now.
Yes, but that young girl maynot be at that place of knowing.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
If you shut out the noise, you can be.
I met a couple of very wiseyoung people who are aware of
themselves.
It's not cheating.
You don't need to be old enoughto know yourself.
You just need to quiet yourmind, quiet yourself, analyze.
It shouldn't be too difficult.
(40:05):
I wish somebody had told methis hard truth years ago.
You know, and it's not toodifficult.
Just sit down.
I'm chilling too much.
I'm in the club five days aweek.
Feel yourself.
Is it good or bad?
Okay, then you wait.
I'm spending more.
I'm coming back home, need toget my hair done, just to go out
(40:27):
and come back.
I'm.
I'm so wasted.
I cannot be productive the nextday to yourself.
I just love it.
It's as simple as that.
You don't need to be old.
Just allow life to kill whereyou're supposed to go and make
the job easier for life by justanalyzing.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
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(41:11):
But do you think you yourself?
You intervened in that processa few times.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yes, I did.
I did by listening to thatinner voice.
You know, when you're doingsomething bad, you hear somebody
say don't do it, don't do it.
Inner voice, yes, you listen toit.
It tells you, it guides you Inyour guts, you can feel it.
What I'm doing is right.
What I'm doing is right, we alldo what I'm doing is right.
(41:38):
What I'm doing is that we alldo.
We are just very disobedientbeings.
I tell you, we all hear thatsmall voice guiding us.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I know exactly what you're talking about.
What I really want to know iswhen you discovered that you
have a voice inside.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I knew I had a voice, but I didn't pay attention to
it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So when did you start paying attention to?
Speaker 1 (41:59):
it.
Can I put a time to that?
It's been a while.
It's been a while and I cantell you.
You can see the change.
I definitely can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm beingguided, I'm allowing myself to
be led.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
The other change that I'm not exactly sure is that
you want to go into politicsthat one that I'm not exactly
sure, but anyway it could be apath.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You never know, it could be.
But then I don't think I cananymore.
I don't know aboutchiefieftaincy and politics, and
politics still might limit me.
It might limit the help I canoffer to people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't be mother of all, andthen I'm in one party, I'm
mother of just a party.
I want to be, you know foreverybody.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
You want as many people as you can.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yes, yes yes, such as many lives without it being
partisan.
Yeah, if the parties want tohelp, I will take the help.
Uh huh, definitely, definitely,you know.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But I cannot belong and say, you know, leaving some
people out, yeah it is not gonnabe possible for me to conclude
on this conversation withoutunderstanding the long path you
took and why you decided to alsogo into music.
Music.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Music was definitely not my plan.
It wasn't a challenge I thoughtI knew I had.
Let me put it that way.
Like I said, I was in a circle,so automatically you know I
have a love for music, but as amusician I don't think that was
ever part of my plan.
You know, that just happenedand we can say it happened at
(43:55):
the right time because, most ofthose songs are still.
It still boils back down toliving life.
Thank you Understanding.
And when it's not, like life isjust ticking and you are
ticking, everything you shouldalso know.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yep, yep, go on.
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You should also know, you should also know when the
time is up.
Yeah, yeah, it's it, you shouldalso know.
Huh, you should also know whenthe time is up.
Yeah, yeah, it's time to flip anew chapter.
If you're going to stay on thatpage, you will keep writing
until there are no lines towrite.
Flip when it's time to flip.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
But I think a year ago you released a music video
though Two years, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yes yes yes, yes, yes .
So I got the opportunity toshoot that in collaboration with
Femme Fatale Studios.
I was working for the othercompany and they like shoot a
video Is music, something youstill want to pursue.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I actually released the whole EP last year Wow queen
, mother, yeah, yeah, so you'renot, it's something that is
carrying on.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
For fun.
But now I don't think money weare looking for is not amazing.
I'm trying to build wealth.
I'm not trying, I'm buildingthe wealth, right, right.
So we have to look at for howlong can we do this and for how
long can we do that.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Wow.
Okay, and for how long can wedo that, wow?
Okay, I want to ask is thereanything we can still discuss
that we haven't?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
this is usually a question for my guests, so is
there anything?
Speaker 3 (45:38):
What do you think?
This is usually a question formy guests.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh yeah.
So you say anything.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
We can still talk about what do you want to talk
about.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
The future is right.
That's all I can say.
Maybe we should talk about you,derek, because you've been
interviewing everybody.
Yes, yes, yes.
We want to know we of you isyes, you want to know we are
viewers yes.
You need to give us some moreinfo.
That's true?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yes, that's true, so I'm planning on that.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, you need to switch seats.
Yeah, that's true.
And then you be the guest.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
That would be nice, it will happen at some point.
It will happen at some point.
Um, yeah, it happened at somepoint.
I, I, I planned it for thisyear, beginning of this year,
with someone, but it didn'thappen because he had to travel
a lot oh yeah, so it didn'thappen so hopefully it will
happen, god willing next year,yeah we'll be looking for it
(46:33):
yeah yeah, I'm looking for itwhen did you realize that money
was so important in life?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
It's always important .
I've always known that.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Because I feel like now you're making more money
moves than you've ever done.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, we're trying to build it for the generation to
come.
Before, making money wassuspended.
Now it's not just for thespending.
You know it's hands to mouthget money, chop, get money out
parties or blow it.
No, now I want to see what I'musing my money for.
(47:12):
I have an expenditure book.
Even if I buy water, I write it.
Wow, because you see, I hearpeople, hear people say oh, I
don't know, money comes in myhands and it's gone.
They'll be walking from churchto church.
No, you've spent it.
write it down so you canremember write it down so you
can remember you've spent itwrite it down so you can
(47:33):
remember.
Money has always been important.
It's just that now we're usingthe money for important things
Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
That's a line.
Hey, you guys that are cuttingthis thing, you better cut it
properly.
Motivation or discipline, oh,that's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Motivation without discipline cannot work.
Discipline Okay, discipline.
Motivation can come after that.
Okay, without disciplinediscipline okay, discipline,
motivation can come after that.
Yeah, discipline, you need tobe disciplined.
I keep saying I'm buildingwealth, I'm I starve myself of a
lot of things.
I discipline.
(48:15):
You know I want to do this, butI can save up for this and make
a bigger purchase that willgive me more.
So sacrifice is discipline.
In a way, you know to dosomething for the long term.
So discipline before, not overbefore, motivation.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
You know, randomly, I got this question in my head.
If you were a 16-year-old younggirl, would you be looking up
to you?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Me Looking up to my new self.
Yes, Okay, yeah.
Probably looking up to the oldone.
The old me was fun too.
You know, the old me was funtoo.
You know, the old me was fun.
We did try to do good things inthe midst of my chaos.
I would look up to him.
Yeah, let me give myself a paton the back because at every
(49:12):
point in my life I have suchlives.
It's just me as a person, youknow, amazing, I have such lives
.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
It's just me as a person, you know.
Amazing.
Now, this question is the mostimportant question on the
podcast, the best advice you'veever received.
I've interviewed over 170people.
Every time I ask that question,I get that look.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
They go silent.
Yes, because a lot of us arejuggling life on our own, so
it's not really getting advicefrom anyone.
It's just you thinking on yourfeet.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I for one so you don't have anybody in your life
that you can pick up the phoneand then call and say this is
not working.
How can you speak to me so thatI feel cool again?
Speaker 1 (50:15):
no, it's the other way around.
When we spoke on the phone, Itold you I should start charging
for consultation yes because my, my friends of all ages find me
comforting when they speak tome.
So I have people calling memore for advice and I'm like I
look at the family.
(50:35):
Are you having trouble me?
Why are?
Why are you calling me?
You know?
So I don't think I don't reallyhave anybody.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
So if you were to get yourself, into like you don't
feel, like you're not motivatedright now.
Yeah, there's nobody.
You can pick up the phone tocall.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
No, no.
Who would I call no?
No, what would I call?
No, I would say my mom, but shewould pick the bow and arrow.
No, she might.
She might inflict more wounds.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
No, I was on the live a few days ago on TikTok and
somebody asked me this questionthat sometimes it gets tough.
How do I deal with it?
And my answer to him was thatyou know the phone and the cover
.
The cover is the support systemfor the phone, so when the
(51:34):
phone drops, at least it cancushion the damage.
I have at least five people inmy life and that has been.
Sometimes it's tough andsometimes I have to book a
ticket and go and see a mentor amentor.
You know like sometimes I haveto do a zoom call with one of
(51:56):
them.
There were times a lot oftrouble in the pharmacy.
I had to go to see one of mybosses in village.
You just sit with him, 75 yearold man.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
And he just spoke life.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Because sometimes it's hard.
You know it is.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
But you men can have mentors with no problems.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Why can't women?
It's not that easy with women.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Why you know why it's not that easy with women.
Why you know why, especially inthis Ghanaian setting, mentors
always usually go left.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
What is left?
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Left is yeah, left is Left is Left.
This is my left Off topic, Ifyou get Off topic right.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
left is left off topic left off topic right.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Pick 10 strong women or you know bustling
entrepreneurs and ask them abouttheir mentors.
10, you would find small, smallissues.
I see yeah, so with me Itotally avoid it.
No, no, no, no.
(53:01):
The men in my life business.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
So you can't find like five ladies like five women
that you can take advice from.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
In this country.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yes, in this country.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That don't feel like we are competing against each
other.
Maybe I'm yet to find them.
I'm yet to.
I'm a loner like that.
I try to figure everything outon my own.
When I hit a brick wall, I saya prayer, I go to bed.
I wake up refreshed.
I have my little son too there,who is as entertaining as he
(53:39):
can be.
So I I don't really.
My phone rings for work andnothing else.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Wow when was the last time you read a book or
listened to a book?
Speaker 1 (53:51):
um, about three weeks ago.
I don't know if the title,you'll have to blur it out.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
But what would be your favorite like?
Recommend a book for myaudience.
What would it?
Be, Either an audio book orAudio book.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Most books are audio books.
Now Is it 48 Laws of Power 48Laws of Power.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yes, yes, robert Greene, yes, robert.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Greene and any other book by Robert Greene.
Yes, yes yes, I see the UTstory.
I've read that as well, yeah,which is quite nice.
The subtle art of yep that wasthe last book I read yeah.
I just needed to fine tune theart.
(54:38):
Yeah, yeah, do just need thatyou fine tune the art.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, yeah, so do you think books help, they do yeah
they do, they do.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
We're lucky to be able to access audiobooks now so
you can be driving and still,you know, listening to a book.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
So books do help.
Amazing.
Do you have anything for myaudience?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
there's a camera right in front of you, right
here it's been nice being onyour show, it's been an honour,
derek.
Thanks for the opportunity.
I'd like to tell everyonelooking at me today who feels a
little down, not motivated topick up the pieces start, start
(55:22):
somewhere.
Start afraid, just start.
And please, if you do get anidea, don't wait and force it.
You never know.
Do you agree, derek?
A hundred percent, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Usually, when this is happening, I zone out and just
allow you to flow, but I love it.
I'm still trying to get thesecret as to how she's able to
hear that voice, so when I findit, I'm going to put it in the
description the exact method howshe hears the voice and how it
expands and become much, muchlouder.
(55:58):
But thank you so much for yourtime, thank you.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
I really appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I appreciate your time being here and, yeah,
hopefully I see you do biggerthings and I would love to come
and see your farm, please.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah, I'd love to come and see it.
Wear some boots before you come, love to come and see your farm
.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
So thank you so much and thank you viewers, listeners
.
My name is Derek Abayte, stayconnected and I'm out.
I have struggled becoming Michelle Bagonor today.
If I'm going to be honest, theonly thing I ever craved and
looked for growing up wasfreedom.
What does that freedom mean toyou Now?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
freedom to me is by the year 2030, they said, the
agricultural business in Africais going to be worth billions of
USD.
Put your foot in there nicely.
So I want you to talk methrough what you have done and
(00:34):
how somebody can model that.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Um so.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The 22 year old who's looking at it, thinking I want
to get into farming.
Do you think, at a scale youhave, is it lucrative enough for
them to go into?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, so farming is tricky.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Looking at you on the screen, the energy I see,
cannot be a person.
Somebody can suppress.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I still am in love.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Until I'm in love.
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Today's conversation is withDiamond Michelle Bagona, and
she's a queen mother.
Today's conversation we'regoing to be talking about money,
success, personal growth,transitioning into who she is
today.
Michelle is also known as MichiGH.
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She's crafted her own identity,her own path and now, even
though people know her in music,as a tv host, as an actress,
she's transitioned into being abusinesswoman.
And this conversation I justwant to find out why it's taking
her so long to transition intothat business, and then also the
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that she's been through.
This isn't just a story.
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How are you really Like?
(02:20):
That's the question.
Like, how are you doing?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Oh, I'm fine, I'm very fine, I'm all over, if I
can put it that way.
My personalities pop up everynow and then.
You know, so it shows in mywork.
The ads bring out that.
You know.
So I'm okay.
Generally I'm exhausted, butmentally, spiritually, I'm ready
(02:47):
to move every time I wake up.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Every single time you wake up, every single time.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I'm ready to move.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Your growth has been beautiful to watch, thank you.
I'm sure your fans, yourfollowers, will testify that
it's been like this.
But then it's been veryexponential and the separation
and the brand that you have nowhas been beautiful.
You know.
(03:15):
Now, looking at where youstarted, it's like you know the
profile has got music, it's gotTV host.
It's like you know the profilehas got music, it's got TV host,
it's got queen mother, it's gotentrepreneur, it's got several
things.
Yeah, the biggest question thatcomes to mind is what's really
(03:35):
the motivation?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Would I call it a motivation?
It's just my personality, myseveral personalities.
It's crazy we're talking aboutthis now because last night I
was putting together like acollage of my journey.
I call it a journey and I havebeen every type of woman.
From my own observation, I havebeen every kind of woman.
(04:05):
I have tried my hands atseveral things.
Would it be a motivation?
I think I'm just in motionevery time.
Within me and outwardly I'm inmotion.
I thrive on moving.
I can't sit at one place and Idon't just want to be moving and
(04:27):
doing nothing.
I'm a jack of all trades,master of all, I try to be.
If I don't know how to dosomething, I would accept the
job.
I'll learn how to do it andgive my best, you know.
So I'm motivated by moving, bymotion, if you can put it that
way yeah, that must have a root.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It must have.
There must be a reason why thatfire keeps burning in you, that
makes you do several things.
If you take it all the way back, where does that come from?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I would give that to my son.
You know, I've always been inmotion, but this time I'm moving
with more purpose, morediscipline, more.
You know I'm more responsiblein my movement.
I'm not just jumping intoanything, you know.
So I say my son is definitelythe root for now, for this new
(05:32):
phase of mine.
Yes, yeah, but before I wasmoving, because I wanted to move
, I wanted to um, it's notalways been about making a mark,
it's just me living andfortunately or unfortunately,
I'm either in trouble for livingor I'm being praised for living
.
Any which way, I'm still living.
(05:53):
So it's just me as a person.
It's just me as a person.
Like I said, I have severalpersonalities.
Okay, talk to me about that Iwake up a different woman every
day.
How I?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
don't know how.
So how have people came up tous today?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Today I'm in my very demure mood.
Let's call it that I'm here tomeet you.
So I'm kind of starstruck.
I'm feeling cool today.
Yesterday I was in work mood,yeah, ready to get things done,
literally enter the marketmyself to sell my harvest
(06:32):
Standing on my truck, mm-hmm,yes.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Standing on it, oh yes.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, I do sell.
I sell a lot of stuff.
So I turned a luxury vehicleinto a work vehicle.
Yeah, so every day I turned aluxury vehicle into a work
vehicle.
Yeah so every day I'm adifferent person.
I'm either calm, I'm hyped, I'mready to, you know, but I never
wake up too dull to move.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
You never wake up too dull to move.
No.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm never too dull to move, Maybe just once a month.
The ladies will get it.
Ah right.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, would you say, you're an extrovert.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Extrovert, I say when Right when necessary Okay.
Yeah, but I am 80% an introvert.
I like my solitude, I like myalone time.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, you know, growing up did you find that you
had to prove yourself a lot ofthe time?
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
To family.
Yes, you know, the expectationsare very high sometimes and I,
for one, hardly ever met them.
I only met them with my grades.
For one, hardly ever met them,I only met them with my grades.
So that was always like youknow my way to.
Oh, she's brilliant, but she'sstubborn.
If I'm learning and I'm stilltrying to be a little rebellious
(07:55):
, you know.
Take the good side.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm just trying why are you still expecting.
I'm just trying to match whereyou are today and what you're
doing to how you started offyeah you know growing up,
because and I think you've saidit quite well I can only imagine
that there were times in yourlife where you felt like you had
to do so much to prove topeople that, yes, um, you are
(08:20):
worthy of getting either praiseor recognition or being seen.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah Right, I haven't really struggled with being
seen.
It was more of being seen forthe wrong reasons, wrong reasons
in the people's eyes.
Like I said, unfortunately I'vebeen in trouble and the bad
news, bad press for living.
(08:46):
So to me, I'm living that freebird lifestyle, you know, and
then it ends up.
So I've not really struggledbeing in the light.
I have struggled becomingMichelle Bagoner today and it's
crazy how I'm still notstruggling to be seen.
(09:07):
I'm also not doing too muchbecause I have realized I mean,
I'm living my most authenticself.
I'm, I am my most authenticself right now and you are
taking me as you get me oryou're forgetting about it, but
everybody seems to be liking theauthentic self.
(09:30):
Right, but how long has ittaken you to get here?
um I can't put a duration on it,but I think major change came
in in days.
In a day or so I just woke upand I'm like I need to switch.
I didn't need to.
The mind switched on its own.
(09:51):
So I do take a lot of time withmyself.
Like I said, solitude iseverything to me.
I can think, I can talk tomyself, I can write down my
notes, I can analyze my own self.
I'm my biggest critic.
So if I sit down, I'm like youcan do this better.
I make sure I do it.
You motivate yourself.
(10:11):
Oh, yes, I do.
I do A lot of people that I do,I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
A lot of people that tend to motivate themselves and
push themselves a lot.
They also tend to be Sometimesthe switch can also be on the
emotional side, where they canfind themselves like almost
because sometimes that happensto me right where it becomes
(10:36):
overwhelming okay so much totake.
You see what I'm trying to sayas in the stress or the
motivation the stress, oh ohyeah, it does get overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It does.
As I said, alone time is verynecessary for everybody.
Zone out as and when you can,without thinking of the next
person, unless you're gonna missa business deal or something.
Feel free to zone out.
It's good for your mentalhealth, right.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So, michelle, growing up young Michelle, what plans
did you have for your life?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
This question is hard .
If I'm going to be honest, theonly thing I ever craved and
looked for growing up wasfreedom.
I wasn't the typical child whosaid I want to be a doctor, I
want to be this All those thingswere said by the people around
me, but I, for one, wantedfreedom.
(11:40):
I've always looked for freedom.
I was brought up in a veryprotective home, like to even
leave the house and buysomething.
You know.
Sleepovers, school trips no,never.
So I felt like I was caged.
You know, it was for my own good, yes, but the only thing I ever
(12:04):
wanted growing up was freedom.
So if I ever rebelled, it was asearch for that freedom, you
know, and I still don't haveanything.
I, you know, really say I'mgoing to be this, what I want to
be is fulfilled.
I want to leave a lasting markon the people who come in
(12:26):
contact with me every day, and Isee that happening.
I'm not making too much effort,but a lot of people are taking
inspiration from my life, day in, day out.
I meet ladies, they talk aboutit and I'm not doing anything
too special, I'm just living.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
What does that freedom mean to you?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Freedom, freedom, freedom.
Now, freedom to me is financialfreedom, one Mentally you need
to be free.
You cannot have obsessivethoughts and expect freedom from
anywhere else, because that'sthe entanglement first that you
have to deal with.
So freedom in all aspects,except that I still have my son
(13:11):
here, so I cannot just pick mybag and go somewhere.
But that would have been themajor part of freedom if I could
just pick my bag and gosomewhere when I do you think
you're on that path to thatfreedom?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
you're so searchful.
I am, but you so search for.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I am, but I'm not sure of the opinion that I don't
necessarily need the freedom.
I would have gotten it a longtime ago if I needed it.
Right yeah, you won't get it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, not yet.
Yeah, maybe I'll get it later.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, so you see from home to another place where I
don't have that total freedom.
Now, with my son, I havefreedom.
I don't have that total freedomto just do and move however I
like there's always somethingstanding there to make sure I'm
in check.
(14:01):
It's just how nature has madeit for me.
The universe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I sat down and thought about it.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I'm like yeah so really, there is nothing like
true freedom for you, men yes,there is, but not for women, no,
no.
I mean, I don't think I want toagree with this I don't think I
personally don't think there'sanything like true freedom you
don't think so no well, so faras you are still chasing
(14:34):
something every day, stilllooking for something it's never
ending I can agree with you.
Yeah, yeah.
Because even our, desires boundus here.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Your desires alone.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You know can prevent you from moving being free.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So that's my little understanding of it.
The time came when you, you hada company, mm-hmm, topios,
mm-hmm.
What happened the time came?
When you had a company, ChopYours.
What happened?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Chop Yours is still running, so Chop Yours Foods is
now legally registered, andunder Chop Yours Foods we have
Chop Yours Shitter that'sselling to high school kids.
And then we have Juice Bae.
Juice Bae was designed the logowas designed by my son.
If I tell you that thisbusiness was not part of my 2025
(15:30):
plans, you won't believe it.
What happened?
So, um, I just, you know,changed some things around the
house.
I'm like no more fizzy drinks.
You know, let's go healthy, andat home, I always have to give
something a nickname so that itwould entice my son to kind of
(15:51):
like it.
You know if you're going togive him something.
You know kids don't like theirvegetables and their foods, so
give it a nickname and so it'sjust baby.
I'm like just baby, just baby,okay.
And then I'm sitting therejuicing one time and he comes to
show me on his gadget that hemade a logo with a tagline under
it.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Sorry, how old is he?
He's nine Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
He said I should call him a programmer.
A programmer, a programmer.
Wow, but that's incredible.
Yeah, he likes to do thiscoding thing and he made a logo.
I'm like, okay, let me print itout.
You know, on something on apouch, and I went with it.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So the existing logo you're using was created by your
son.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yes, I've not touched it.
I told the graphic designer whoprinted out that do not touch.
He was even surprised that Iwas a nine-year-old.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You see, sometimes I really think that something
really happens to responsibleparents when they have children.
Okay, Like I don't know, it'slike some wire that I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's happened to me it's happened.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Some people it's marriage, some people it's
children.
Okay, but if you're responsibleenough, if that thought is ever
there, a spouse or a child willdo something to you.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Definitely.
My son did that for me.
My son gave me something thatI've not gotten.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What do you think it is?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's just pure genuine love, a genuine
connection.
It's like he's thinking I'mthinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Like this business entrepreneurship venture you're
on.
Do you think you're doing itbecause of him?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I have always been like an entrepreneur.
I've grown up seeing my mom runseveral businesses at the same
time, so I'll say I got thatfrom her.
But you know, with I have tokeep the home running.
So definitely because of him Igotta work.
But this food business is likeeverything is under the food.
(18:03):
So we're gradually building thecompany.
Okay, it's not like I'm justworking for work and sick.
No, we're building choppy'sfoods as an umbrella.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Right, you know, with several companies under so the
main, like the, the main company, yes, it's choppy's food.
Yes, okay and Okay.
And then everything else.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And everything else Juice.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Bacon everything else yes, and the farm project you
have.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So the farm was supposed to be under that, but I
had to register it on its own.
So we have Chopped Yours Foodsand we have Magelle Farms.
Combination of Michelle andMajesty.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So, really, what's the plan?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Like what's the plan for this whole entrepreneurship
ventures like someday, someday,what's the what's the bigger
picture?
Like I said, it's an umbrella.
So we're going to build all thecompanies till they have gone
past survival.
And then we were seeing we'relooking at factories, we're
looking at you know, I alreadyI'm looking at my, my competitor
(19:04):
in the market okay and it's ahuge company.
But you gotta set the dream verybig.
You know, I read a quotesomewhere that says dream as big
as you can and then give thebill to god.
He can afford it.
So me, I, I dream I have boughtthings without pain.
When I say say this, I mean Ihave manifested things.
(19:27):
I have claimed that I boughtthis before I even knew how I
was going to get the money tobuy it Okay.
You know so.
Queen, mother.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You're going to have to explain a little bit.
No, no, no, there's a young guylistening.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's the power of manifestation.
You are who you think ofmanifestation.
You, you are who you think youare.
You are who you believe you.
You get what you believe youget.
So if you are always movingaround like, oh, my business is
struggling, your business willstruggle.
If you are grateful for thelittle progress you have made,
(20:02):
it would increase, you know.
So I feel like I'm manifestingeverything I'm doing.
I have a dream, I have a vision, and it's the pieces are coming
together, you know you'vealways been entrepreneurial.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yes, I also heard in an interview that you did as
well, but I think we are reallyseeing it now why.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I have an answer to this, but I hope the answer will
not be controversial.
I will try to be as diplomaticas I can Be as diplomatic as I
can.
Until recently, until somehappenings, I probably thought I
was not capable.
This is the first time I'veheld a business over one year,
(20:56):
and it's not just one, it'sseveral businesses in motion at
the same time.
Sometimes you can be in a spaceand you feel you are not
capable because you're notgrowing in that space.
You are not able to exploreyour own capabilities.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
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Speaker 1 (21:40):
Are you getting it?
I am yeah.
That's as diplomatic as I canget.
I am.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I am.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm surprised at myself sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm verysurprised, Like wow, you're
doing it and you are doing itvery, very well.
You know, before I didn't thinkI was because I've started
businesses you think that theenvironment, the company we keep
(22:17):
, has an influence on us Bigtime, big time.
You are the company you keep onus Big time, big time.
You are the company you keep,and it's either you are pushing
them to grow and forgettingyourself, or expecting that, as
you push them, they come backand push you.
Human nature doesn't work likethat.
It's not a movie, this is not atelenovela.
(22:39):
It's life.
You can be in an environmentwhere you feel you are giving
your all and expecting,consciously or unconsciously,
that the same will be done foryou.
At the end of the day, you'llfind yourself rather being
drained.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Our environment, our network, our circle, when I look
at you and forget like I'm noteven talking about today.
Yeah, Looking at you on thescreen, the energy.
I see, cannot be a person.
(23:20):
Somebody can suppress.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Until I'm in love.
No, seriously, you know, womenwe are naturally like that, some
of us.
Let me not generalize it, but Ifeel women were wired to let a
man shine, you know.
So I always say if I'm going tobe with somebody, you need to
pour into me, I need to see youappreciate what I'm doing.
(23:51):
Not take from me.
Taking from me can be as littleas sarcastic comments.
That can kill.
It can totally kill a businessidea before even you remember
the question I've heard?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I first asked you about little michelle, um what
dreams you had yeah and then youspoke about, you know, seeking
freedom, freedom, yeah.
And then I've just asked youthis question about why you did
not start your entrepreneurialventure earlier on enough, and
what you just said.
Now I'm just thinking at apoint in your life you wanted
(24:30):
freedom away from something.
At a point in your life youwanted to bring out your
entrepreneurial venture, but youcouldn't.
Something was stopping you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's happened twice in your life now.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What lessons have you drawn from that?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's never happening again.
It's never happening again,it's never happening again.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
How do you make?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
sure of that.
I'm grown now.
You know, mentally I'm grown.
I know what I want, I know myworth and I'm not compromising.
No, no, no, no, no, I'm notcompromising.
You are matching my energy oryou are not?
So if I have to do this journeyalone and get to the top, I
(25:13):
will.
We'll meet at the top.
There's no room for another ofthat to happen right now,
Because you know I'm growing.
I'm not getting any younger.
By 40, I should be retired, youknow, lying in my jacuzzi in
Miami somewhere.
That's right, you know.
You speak a lot about yourpension as well.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I was watching some interviews and then you kept
saying you know when I go onpension when I go on pension.
Yeah, yeah, and I said no.
This is such a correct thinkingto have.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Because you know we're not going to be like this
forever.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
The time is going to come where, if you've been
coming up these stairs, you seeme punching.
You're just catching up with me, so we really have to do
something now.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Either you're doing now, building wealth, or you're
just going to continue blamingGod and life.
Sometimes you blame Satan.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
But, michelle, fame, fame.
When you have fame here, thispart of the world, what does it
do to you mentally?
Let me keep my thoughts, butlet me ask you what does it do
to you mentally that it makes?
And let me keep my thoughts,but let me ask you, what does it
do to you mentally?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
it can be draining.
It can be draining becauseeverybody has an opinion.
But I always say, like theytalk about what you give them,
you can I give you what I wantyou to talk about?
You know, I don't just give younews, I don't just so.
You got to be cautious.
I don't really consider mefamous no, you don't no okay, I
(26:54):
wouldn't be standing in themarket selling selling juice
made by the road.
No, no, no, no.
If you're going to consideryourself famous when you know
that the bank account is notreflecting famous, then you're
lying to yourself.
You're telling yourself a biglie, you know.
Are you using the fame to buildthat wealth or you're just
(27:15):
going to keep showing up for thepeople who are calling you
famous?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow, that was a lie.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, that was a line .
Yeah, because if you keepshowing up for them, you go
broke trying to prove that youare famous.
They say you are famous.
You got to dress up, dressapart, go to places that cost
money, whereas you can still befamous.
Popular.
Let's call it popular.
Yeah, popular, whereas you canstill be famous, popular, let's
call it popular.
Popular right yeah, yeah yeah,yeah popular and you know kind
(27:49):
of switch the dynamic around,you know usage for your benefit
instead of just being famous.
So I don't consider myselffamous.
No, I don't like the tag.
Actually I'm popular, I don'tlike the tag.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
actually I'm popular.
By the year 2030, they said,the agriculture business in
Africa is going to be worthbillions of USD.
Billions.
You've put your foot in therenicely.
Some of the people that listento me.
It will surprise you that about95% of my audience are young
(28:27):
men 95.
Okay, I don't know why, but Isay that if the conversation is
about how to make money, the menjump on to it Usually if it's
you know entertainment andgossip, then it's something else
yeah yeah, so I want you totalk me through what you have
done and how somebody can modelthat agri-wise.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So, luckily for us, we have a government in power
that's pushing the agricultureagenda and it's a good time to
take advantage.
I'm still in the first phase.
Let's say I've elevated alittle to the second because
we're harvesting.
So we're harvesting okra andcucumbers.
(29:13):
We're growing peppers as wellon a two acre farm.
It's not been all rosy.
It's been quite a journey fromland preparation to harvest,
making mistakes with chemicals,with staff.
So if anybody wants to dofarming, yes you can.
(29:35):
But be ready.
Be ready for the stress.
The Ghanaian employees attitudetowards work will be your first
problem, yes.
So if you come visit me at thefarm, you will realize that my
staff are Nigerian.
Why?
(29:55):
That's what I said the Ghanaianemployees attitude towards work
.
They feel like it's a feelingof entitlement, but they don't
treat foreigners like that whenthey work for foreigners.
I don't understand why, but themore we try to understand, the
(30:16):
more time we're wasting, and sowe just find who's ready to work
.
So it's that you know we're atharvest earlier than I expected.
We're supposed to harvest yes,because they're dedicated and
I'm learning on the job everyday.
You know I'm inviting people tocome help me out.
(30:38):
Advice, what do we do?
What are we doing right, whatare we doing wrong?
So you should also be ready totake lessons from existing
farmers.
You know, doesn't have to be anelderly person like, trust me,
so many people have suchknowledge in farming that it
will surprise you.
They just walk in there likethey don't know what's happening
(31:01):
, yeah, so yeah, we're at apoint where we're ready to
expand.
I'm ready to expand even thoughit's too soon, but I want to be
able to have us on a largerscale, right?
Yeah, I feel like I've, likeyou said, I've done a lot of
jobs.
I've done influencing, and Iknow how much I can make from
shooting a video on my phonefrom the comfort of my home.
(31:23):
So if I'm going to farm, I wantto see the equivalent of that.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, makes sense, yeah, to be at that scale.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, I'm grateful for where I am, but I can do
much better.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't have to wait till you know I've gained the
knowledge you know, but at thislevel, to you it may not be, but
to the 22 year old who'slooking at it, thinking I want
to get into farming, do youthink at your level, at the
scale you have, is it lucrativeenough for them to go into?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Okay.
So farming is tricky.
On a small scale it's lucrativefor the market woman and not
through the farmer.
Yeah, yeah, because let's sayI'm selling an entire basket of
ochre for 300 series and she'sgoing to count it Five pieces
(32:22):
for maybe four series or fiveseries.
You know how many are in abasket, you understand.
So she's making the money.
But if I'm harvesting on alarger scale 10, 20 acres I
don't have to bother about her,about the market woman sales,
you understand, because I'mgoing to be making more money in
(32:43):
multiples.
So I don't mind, you can.
Definitely, as a young person,I wish I would have started
earlier.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
What's better than feedingyourself?
There's some fulfillment inplucking my own veggies and you
know it's Feed Ghana Project,feed Ghana.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Project indeed For you, a lot of these projects
that you're doing, is it?
You know, sometimes it's likeyou need a lot of.
You like your long time, but,like me, I get bored very easily
, right?
So over the years, I've startedprobably about 16 businesses,
(33:25):
majority of them online, e-comm,dropshipping plenty, okay,
right, because I get bored, so Iwant the next challenge, then
the next, then the next.
I mean, the past few weeks,I've been thinking about this
podcast and I'm thinking, okay,I'm going to add more cameras
instead, instead of five cameras.
Okay, now, I'm going to addmore cameras instead, instead of
five cameras.
Okay, now I'm going to add morecameras.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You almost gave me a heart attack.
Just to increase the challenge.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yes, yes, yes, and now I'm moving the studio to
somewhere else, just to haveround table conversation, so I
get bored very easily For youall these projects that you're
doing, is it because you alsowant some activities happening,
or it's actually deeply rootedin a bigger goal?
You see what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Definitely rooted in a bigger goal and, if you notice
, all my jobs are centeredaround people, so I enjoy taking
care of people, I enjoy beingthe people's person.
You know I'm mother to all, soI find myself doing stuff that
definitely involve.
You know, like I said, thebigger picture, the bigger goal
is the factories for the Jews.
(34:31):
You know expanding, which we'recurrently going to do.
We have an NGO as well.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yes, yes, project SOS .
Yes.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
SOS, yes, so now I have three legally registered
businesses that I have to build,and that is my focus for the
next.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
How many years?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Two Okay yeah, okay yeah.
I feel like now I'm in acomfortable lead.
So two years max, I'm in acomfortable lead.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
So two years max.
You know part of the reason whysometimes I keep moving from
one business to the other or inthe past it used to happen a lot
was because when I'm doing onething and maybe this is making
me like $100 a day and then Imove into the next venture and
it's making me $200 and I leavethis one.
Oh no.
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Now I know better.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
so my question is if you get a business that is
making you more money thanyou're making now, would you
just leave these ones and go?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
no, no no, you should have different streams of
income, right?
So for every company I have anaccount.
I don't touch money from here.
I don't touch money from here.
You, you shouldn't just leaveit to me.
That's being inconsistent and Idon't like feeling inconsistent
at all.
Like I said, I felt like thatbefore.
(35:56):
I felt inconsistency to me isnot being capable, and so if
I've tested being capable, I'mnot going back.
If I hold something, I getsomething.
That's making much more.
We're adding it to the routine.
Let's go.
You know, I wish I can clonemyself.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Sometimes, oh, yeah, yeah, because you know you can
count on yourself and get thejob done Seriously.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I would definitely not leave one job hanging for
another.
No, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Awesome.
Now, anyway, on the 29th ofAugust the British Council we
have our first live event andit's titled Revealing the
Success Code.
So it's actually going to beteaching.
It's not going to bestorytelling, like me telling
you my story.
I'm going to teach you somestrategies.
(36:53):
There's going to be a few otherpeople.
There's going to be fivespeakers.
I'm not going to release themyet, so I'm going to put all the
details in the description andyou can register your interest
if you want to show up for thatevent.
Let's talk about what's yourbiggest regret.
(37:21):
And remember this is a learning.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I have to think about that.
Let's not call it regrets, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's call them
lessons.
So I don't have no regrets.
No, if I could go back in time,I'll do a lot of things
differently, but unfortunately Idon't have no regrets.
No, if I could go back in time,I'll do a lot of things
differently, but unfortunately Idon't have the opportunities.
(37:48):
So let's just say everythinghas been a lesson, no regrets.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
The young girl that is looking at you now, thinking
what can I learn from her path?
What would you tell them?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Just be yourself and let life take you where you are
supposed to go, not where youwant to go.
Where you are supposed to go.
I say this because becoming aqueen mother was nothing I ever
thought about would happen to me.
And this opportunity comes andit's a total lifestyle change.
(38:35):
At the time, my inner voice wastelling me the same thing.
It's like you've gotten to apoint you need to listen to
yourself.
You realize there's a smallvoice in your head.
The more you listen to it, thelouder it gets, and I can tell
(38:57):
you for a fact that beforebecoming a few weeks, I could
feel changes.
I feel like I'm drawn tosomething else, not what I was
drawn to even probably a fewweeks ago, and I listened to me
in everything Seriously, and sowhen it happened, I'm like let
(39:20):
me take this opportunity, it'sthe step forward.
So I've not planned a life, butI'm allowing life to take me
where I'm supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's because you are in a place of knowing now.
Yes, but that young girl maynot be at that place of knowing.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
If you shut out the noise, you can be.
I met a couple of very wiseyoung people who are aware of
themselves.
It's not cheating.
You don't need to be old enoughto know yourself.
You just need to quiet yourmind, quiet yourself, analyze.
It shouldn't be too difficult.
(40:05):
I wish somebody had told methis hard truth years ago.
You know, and it's not toodifficult.
Just sit down.
I'm chilling too much.
I'm in the club five days aweek.
Feel yourself.
Is it good or bad?
Okay, then you wait.
I'm spending more.
I'm coming back home, need toget my hair done, just to go out
(40:27):
and come back.
I'm.
I'm so wasted.
I cannot be productive the nextday to yourself.
I just love it.
It's as simple as that.
You don't need to be old.
Just allow life to kill whereyou're supposed to go and make
the job easier for life by justanalyzing.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Let me stop it here for a minute.
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(41:11):
But do you think you yourself?
You intervened in that processa few times.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yes, I did.
I did by listening to thatinner voice.
You know, when you're doingsomething bad, you hear somebody
say don't do it, don't do it.
Inner voice, yes, you listen toit.
It tells you, it guides you Inyour guts, you can feel it.
What I'm doing is right.
What I'm doing is right, we alldo what I'm doing is right.
(41:38):
What I'm doing is that we alldo.
We are just very disobedientbeings.
I tell you, we all hear thatsmall voice guiding us.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I know exactly what you're talking about.
What I really want to know iswhen you discovered that you
have a voice inside.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I knew I had a voice, but I didn't pay attention to
it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
So when did you start paying attention to?
Speaker 1 (41:59):
it.
Can I put a time to that?
It's been a while.
It's been a while and I cantell you.
You can see the change.
I definitely can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm beingguided, I'm allowing myself to
be led.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
The other change that I'm not exactly sure is that
you want to go into politicsthat one that I'm not exactly
sure, but anyway it could be apath.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
You never know, it could be.
But then I don't think I cananymore.
I don't know aboutchiefieftaincy and politics, and
politics still might limit me.
It might limit the help I canoffer to people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't be mother of all, andthen I'm in one party, I'm
mother of just a party.
I want to be, you know foreverybody.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
You want as many people as you can.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yes, yes yes, such as many lives without it being
partisan.
Yeah, if the parties want tohelp, I will take the help.
Uh huh, definitely, definitely,you know.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
But I cannot belong and say, you know, leaving some
people out, yeah it is not gonnabe possible for me to conclude
on this conversation withoutunderstanding the long path you
took and why you decided to alsogo into music.
Music.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Music was definitely not my plan.
It wasn't a challenge I thoughtI knew I had.
Let me put it that way.
Like I said, I was in a circle,so automatically you know I
have a love for music, but as amusician I don't think that was
ever part of my plan.
You know, that just happenedand we can say it happened at
(43:55):
the right time because, most ofthose songs are still.
It still boils back down toliving life.
Thank you Understanding.
And when it's not, like life isjust ticking and you are
ticking, everything you shouldalso know.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yep, yep, go on.
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
You should also know, you should also know when the
time is up.
Yeah, yeah, it's it, you shouldalso know.
Huh, you should also know whenthe time is up.
Yeah, yeah, it's time to flip anew chapter.
If you're going to stay on thatpage, you will keep writing
until there are no lines towrite.
Flip when it's time to flip.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
But I think a year ago you released a music video
though Two years, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yes yes yes, yes, yes .
So I got the opportunity toshoot that in collaboration with
Femme Fatale Studios.
I was working for the othercompany and they like shoot a
video Is music, something youstill want to pursue.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I actually released the whole EP last year Wow queen
, mother, yeah, yeah, so you'renot, it's something that is
carrying on.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
For fun.
But now I don't think money weare looking for is not amazing.
I'm trying to build wealth.
I'm not trying, I'm buildingthe wealth, right, right.
So we have to look at for howlong can we do this and for how
long can we do that.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Wow.
Okay, and for how long can wedo that, wow?
Okay, I want to ask is thereanything we can still discuss
that we haven't?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
what do you think?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
this is usually a question for my guests, so is
there anything?
Speaker 3 (45:38):
What do you think?
This is usually a question formy guests.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh yeah.
So you say anything.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
We can still talk about what do you want to talk
about.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
The future is right.
That's all I can say.
Maybe we should talk about you,derek, because you've been
interviewing everybody.
Yes, yes, yes.
We want to know we of you isyes, you want to know we are
viewers yes.
You need to give us some moreinfo.
That's true?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yes, that's true, so I'm planning on that.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, you need to switch seats.
Yeah, that's true.
And then you be the guest.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
That would be nice, it will happen at some point.
It will happen at some point.
Um, yeah, it happened at somepoint.
I, I, I planned it for thisyear, beginning of this year,
with someone, but it didn'thappen because he had to travel
a lot oh yeah, so it didn'thappen so hopefully it will
happen, god willing next year,yeah we'll be looking for it
(46:33):
yeah yeah, I'm looking for itwhen did you realize that money
was so important in life?
Speaker 1 (46:42):
It's always important .
I've always known that.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Because I feel like now you're making more money
moves than you've ever done.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, we're trying to build it for the generation to
come.
Before, making money wassuspended.
Now it's not just for thespending.
You know it's hands to mouthget money, chop, get money out
parties or blow it.
No, now I want to see what I'musing my money for.
(47:12):
I have an expenditure book.
Even if I buy water, I write it.
Wow, because you see, I hearpeople, hear people say oh, I
don't know, money comes in myhands and it's gone.
They'll be walking from churchto church.
No, you've spent it.
write it down so you canremember write it down so you
can remember you've spent itwrite it down so you can
(47:33):
remember.
Money has always been important.
It's just that now we're usingthe money for important things
Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
That's a line.
Hey, you guys that are cuttingthis thing, you better cut it
properly.
Motivation or discipline, oh,that's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Motivation without discipline cannot work.
Discipline Okay, discipline.
Motivation can come after that.
Okay, without disciplinediscipline okay, discipline,
motivation can come after that.
Yeah, discipline, you need tobe disciplined.
I keep saying I'm buildingwealth, I'm I starve myself of a
lot of things.
I discipline.
(48:15):
You know I want to do this, butI can save up for this and make
a bigger purchase that willgive me more.
So sacrifice is discipline.
In a way, you know to dosomething for the long term.
So discipline before, not overbefore, motivation.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
You know, randomly, I got this question in my head.
If you were a 16-year-old younggirl, would you be looking up
to you?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Me Looking up to my new self.
Yes, Okay, yeah.
Probably looking up to the oldone.
The old me was fun too.
You know, the old me was funtoo.
You know, the old me was fun.
We did try to do good things inthe midst of my chaos.
I would look up to him.
Yeah, let me give myself a paton the back because at every
(49:12):
point in my life I have suchlives.
It's just me as a person, youknow, amazing, I have such lives
.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
It's just me as a person, you know.
Amazing.
Now, this question is the mostimportant question on the
podcast, the best advice you'veever received.
I've interviewed over 170people.
Every time I ask that question,I get that look.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
They go silent.
Yes, because a lot of us arejuggling life on our own, so
it's not really getting advicefrom anyone.
It's just you thinking on yourfeet.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I for one so you don't have anybody in your life
that you can pick up the phoneand then call and say this is
not working.
How can you speak to me so thatI feel cool again?
Speaker 1 (50:15):
no, it's the other way around.
When we spoke on the phone, Itold you I should start charging
for consultation yes because my, my friends of all ages find me
comforting when they speak tome.
So I have people calling memore for advice and I'm like I
look at the family.
(50:35):
Are you having trouble me?
Why are?
Why are you calling me?
You know?
So I don't think I don't reallyhave anybody.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
So if you were to get yourself, into like you don't
feel, like you're not motivatedright now.
Yeah, there's nobody.
You can pick up the phone tocall.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
No, no.
Who would I call no?
No, what would I call?
No, I would say my mom, but shewould pick the bow and arrow.
No, she might.
She might inflict more wounds.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
No, I was on the live a few days ago on TikTok and
somebody asked me this questionthat sometimes it gets tough.
How do I deal with it?
And my answer to him was thatyou know the phone and the cover
.
The cover is the support systemfor the phone, so when the
(51:34):
phone drops, at least it cancushion the damage.
I have at least five people inmy life and that has been.
Sometimes it's tough andsometimes I have to book a
ticket and go and see a mentor amentor.
You know like sometimes I haveto do a zoom call with one of
(51:56):
them.
There were times a lot oftrouble in the pharmacy.
I had to go to see one of mybosses in village.
You just sit with him, 75 yearold man.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
And he just spoke life.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Because sometimes it's hard.
You know it is.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
But you men can have mentors with no problems.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Why can't women?
It's not that easy with women.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Why you know why it's not that easy with women.
Why you know why, especially inthis Ghanaian setting, mentors
always usually go left.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
What is left?
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Left is yeah, left is Left is Left.
This is my left Off topic, Ifyou get Off topic right.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
left is left off topic left off topic right.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
Pick 10 strong women or you know bustling
entrepreneurs and ask them abouttheir mentors.
10, you would find small, smallissues.
I see yeah, so with me Itotally avoid it.
No, no, no, no.
(53:01):
The men in my life business.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
So you can't find like five ladies like five women
that you can take advice from.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
In this country.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yes, in this country.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
That don't feel like we are competing against each
other.
Maybe I'm yet to find them.
I'm yet to.
I'm a loner like that.
I try to figure everything outon my own.
When I hit a brick wall, I saya prayer, I go to bed.
I wake up refreshed.
I have my little son too there,who is as entertaining as he
(53:39):
can be.
So I I don't really.
My phone rings for work andnothing else.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Wow when was the last time you read a book or
listened to a book?
Speaker 1 (53:51):
um, about three weeks ago.
I don't know if the title,you'll have to blur it out.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
But what would be your favorite like?
Recommend a book for myaudience.
What would it?
Be, Either an audio book orAudio book.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Most books are audio books.
Now Is it 48 Laws of Power 48Laws of Power.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yes, yes, robert Greene, yes, robert.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
Greene and any other book by Robert Greene.
Yes, yes yes, I see the UTstory.
I've read that as well, yeah,which is quite nice.
The subtle art of yep that wasthe last book I read yeah.
I just needed to fine tune theart.
(54:38):
Yeah, yeah, do just need thatyou fine tune the art.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
Yeah, yeah, so do you think books help, they do yeah
they do, they do.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
We're lucky to be able to access audiobooks now so
you can be driving and still,you know, listening to a book.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
So books do help.
Amazing.
Do you have anything for myaudience?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
there's a camera right in front of you, right
here it's been nice being onyour show, it's been an honour,
derek.
Thanks for the opportunity.
I'd like to tell everyonelooking at me today who feels a
little down, not motivated topick up the pieces start, start
(55:22):
somewhere.
Start afraid, just start.
And please, if you do get anidea, don't wait and force it.
You never know.
Do you agree, derek?
A hundred percent, yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Usually, when this is happening, I zone out and just
allow you to flow, but I love it.
I'm still trying to get thesecret as to how she's able to
hear that voice, so when I findit, I'm going to put it in the
description the exact method howshe hears the voice and how it
expands and become much, muchlouder.
(55:58):
But thank you so much for yourtime, thank you.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
I really appreciate you.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I appreciate your time being here and, yeah,
hopefully I see you do biggerthings and I would love to come
and see your farm, please.
Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah, I'd love to come and see it.
Wear some boots before you come, love to come and see your farm
.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
So thank you so much and thank you viewers, listeners
.
My name is Derek Abayte, stayconnected and I'm out.
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