April 1, 2026 • 44 mins
A side hustle you try “for two weeks” is not supposed to rewrite your life, but that’s exactly what happens for Corliss Rassyle. We sit down with the Canadian speaker, success principles coach, and founder behind Lead Conference Canada to unpack the real leadership journey behind the highlight reel: the doubts, the pivots, the hard seasons, and the moments where faith and purpose finally click into focus.
Corliss talks about the success principle that still guides her leadership mindset: we are not always responsible for what happens, but we are responsible for what we do with what does.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:06):
Welcome to the Leader Impact Podcast.
We are a community of leaderswith a network in over 350
cities around the worlddedicated to optimizing our
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website at leaderimpact.com.
I'm your host, Lisa Peters, andour guest today is Corless
Rasil.
Corless is a Canadianinspirational speaker, certified
success principles coach, dareto lead trainer, and the founder
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and CEO of Corless Co-ConsultingIncorporated, based in
Saskatchewan.
She is the best-selling authorof Lead Your Life, How to Live
with Purpose, Passion, andConfidence, and hosts one of
Canada's leadingself-improvement podcasts,
Conversations with Corless.
Corless is also the visionaryfounder and the host of Lead
Conference Canada, empoweringindividuals to lead their lives
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with intention and impact.
Welcome to the show, Corless.
SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
I'm so happy to be here.
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_00 (01:17):
I am so thankful for you.
I know we had been friends, butmy first time I really got to
hear from you was the LeadConference Canada.
And uh you blew me away with Imean, can't Jack Canfield was
there.
Yeah, that was while he was met.
And the other lady who's uhArlene Dickinson.
Arlene Dickinson, how could Iforget that?
(01:39):
Yeah, and Christina Kuzmich.
Yes, and then some local, but itwas, I was like, how does
Corless do this?
But you just believe.
Like, you believe.
You have such a strength.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
I do believe, and I also believe it's guided by God.
So uh it's so much bigger thanme, and I knew it was right from
the beginning, and I knew thateverything that was supposed to
happen would happen, and it did.
SPEAKER_00 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah.
So we're gonna dive right inbecause I'm excited to hear more
about your story.
We love hearing people's storiesand uh the professional story on
how you how you got to where youare today, the journey.
But we mostly want to hear aboutthose pivotal turning points,
and if you have one or two thatyou could share.
SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
Sure, I'd love that.
Um, first of all, I really doappreciate you giving me the
opportunity to share my story.
I think it's so beautiful.
I believe that when we hear eachother's stories, even though our
circumstances are different andwhere we're at is different,
where our backgrounds somehowwe're all connected through um
what we experience in life.
And it's a real pleasure for meto have a chance to actually
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share with you.
Um, so there's a few things.
There's a couple things here onmy professional journey.
The first one is that I fellinto a direct sales company.
And I say fell into it because Ireally feel like I did.
I feel like it was all guided,it was all exactly as it was
supposed to be.
But when I joined this company,my only goal was to do it for a
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couple of weeks.
You know how you have thisfull-time job and you're just
gonna do a side hustle, and thenthe side hustle ended up
becoming my full-time career.
And it was one of the mostbeautiful experiences.
It is why I believe that everysingle one decision can
completely change the directionof your life.
And that one decision did.
And I didn't even know it was abig decision at the time.
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So I joined Party Light on awhim, just expecting to get a
few candles, some extra cash.
That's all I was doing it for.
And it turned into that thereason I started wasn't the
reason I stayed.
So I started for me, and I endedup staying because I discovered
that it would actually give mean opportunity to fulfill a
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bigger purpose in my life whereI could actually take what I
learned, what I knew, thebusiness became a vehicle for me
to actually help other people.
So I always say that I went fromlighting homes to lighting
lives, and that is actually whatkept me there from I was there
for I started for two weeks andI ended up being there for 28
years.
So it was pretty extraordinary.
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Yeah, it was a beautiful thing.
And it gave me such anincredible opportunity to align
myself with my values of helpingpeople, but also staying home to
raise my three kids.
And it was just honestly justbeautiful.
Everything about that companywas beautiful and it helped me
grow into who I am today andprepared me for what's next.
SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
I don't think ple people believe in like, can I
really make a side hustle work?
Can I really make my passionwork?
But you found so much more thanlighting candles.
SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
I did, but I it also gave me an opportunity to make a
living.
I mean, what an incredibleopportunity it gave me.
I was able to stay home.
I so I had my children.
So when I started, I had nochildren.
So I had my first daughter, andthat was when I was like, I
don't want to make, I don't wantthis to be a side hustle now.
I want this to be a career whereI can stay home and raise my
daughter.
And every time I looked into herbig, beautiful blue eyes, I was
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like, I have to figure out howto make this work.
And honestly, there was no planB.
For me, it was plan A.
And people would often say tome, How do you do it?
Like, how do you have so muchsuccess?
How do you sell so much?
How do you have have you howhave you built such a big team?
And I was like, There's just noother option.
They said, Don't you get no's?
And I'm like, all the time.
I just don't pay attention tothem because there is no other
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option for me.
I need to stay home with mydaughter, and I'm so blessed and
so lucky that I have theopportunity to do so.
I'm just gonna make it happen,and that's all there is to it.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then I mean, from there toso from there, so yeah, yeah.
So how you're like, how did thathappen?
Yeah.
So here's what happened.
So around the 22 or 23 yearmark, I really started feeling
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unsettled.
So I was blessed and I wasgrateful.
I mean, I got to work from home.
I had had and raised my threechildren, built my business,
helped other women grow.
I traveled the world.
I mean, I was the person thatone time I was outside of um
Ottawa, I was in Ottawaactually, and I was on this big,
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beautiful uh leader retreat, andthey had these limousines lined
up for us outside.
I remember, I can't remember thename of the drive, but it was
like, you know, right by theParliament buildings.
And I was hustling to get outthere, and we were all in
evening gowns.
We were going to this big event,and I remember coming out the
door, and I was so shockedbecause there was all these
people there with cameras, andit was like a paparazzi because
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all the limousines were lined upand they were like, This must be
movie stars.
So when I came out, somebodystarted taking pictures and
they're like, There she is,there's Meg Ryan.
I was like, What?
What's going on?
They thought I was Meg Ryan.
I was so taken aback that I wentto go get into the limousine and
I put my bum in first and mylegs kicked up and kind of went
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out and I kind of fell into thecar.
And people were taking pictures,and I was like, Well, tomorrow
there's gonna be big newsheadlines that Meg Ryan fell
into this car.
But they thought I was her.
Like it was such anextraordinary opportunity.
But around, you know, 22 years,I just started feeling like
there was something more.
I just didn't know what it was,and I didn't want to give up.
I had security there, right?
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So I didn't want to give up whatI'd built.
And I was also really gratefulfor what I had.
But, you know, you get thatfeeling that you're just like
unsettled, there's somethingelse.
So it turns out that I stayedthere for a few more years and
had that unsettled feeling.
And then my personal life kindof came crashing down.
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And when my personal life camecrashing down, my professional
life kind of came crashing downwith it.
And I was faced in this verydark time of like, what do I
want this to look like now?
And I realized that I couldeither quit ignoring that little
knowing inside of me, or I couldreally start to follow what I
felt called to.
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And that's when I that's what Idid.
I kind of went back to thedrawing board and said, What do
I really love about my business?
What do I really love to do?
And how can I expand this?
And one of the things aboutthis, Lisa, that is really
important is this is why Ibelieve that everything happens
for us and it happens through usto help us become who we're here
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to be and to fulfill a biggerpurpose.
And how I looked at Party Lightat that time was I was doing it
for me.
It had, it was giving me aliving.
I was grateful for what it had.
But because I was called formore, it wouldn't go away
because I was called for more.
And I had to like kind of gowithin myself and really do some
deep reflection about like whatam I supposed to be doing?
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Like, I was actually asking God,help me figure out what I'm
meant to do.
And what I realized was that Ihad an opportunity because I had
been on the stage, I had beenbackstage, I had been in the
audience learning that if I wasto take all of those experiences
and all those skills and allthose talents and everything
I've developed through myparty-like career, that I could
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use it for a bigger purpose.
And now I could create somethingwhere anybody from any walk of
life could come to this eventand learn and grow.
And I was the one who couldcreate that for them.
So that's what ended upevolving.
So I ended up doing it for acouple more years, kind of under
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the wire.
And then the pandemic happened,and they actually changed the
business model anyway.
And immediately when thathappened, instead of being
really crushed and devastatedabout it, I immediately knew I
was being released from what Iwas not supposed to be doing and
guided towards what I wassupposed to be doing.
And that's where my company kindof took off and where Lake
Conference Canada Vision cametogether.
SPEAKER_00 (09:35):
You know, I have the exact same story in that I felt
like COVID released me from whatI was doing.
I I loved events, I had acorporate event management firm,
but COVID shut it down.
And then all of a sudden it'slike I I just found this.
Okay, God, what else am Isupposed to do?
But I I felt a happiness.
It's like, okay, I got released.
But sad because you lost a lotof money and there's, you know,
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yeah.
But you know, you I just knewthat I've I'll find I'll find
the purpose.
SPEAKER_01 (10:02):
So I have so I need chills as you're saying that
because I really feel that.
Like I really feel it.
I feel like when we're in, youknow, the hardest of times and
the most challenging, we wedon't know how we're gonna get
through it.
We don't know how it's gonnawork out, but we really do have
to trust.
It's one of the life lessonsthat I've I've you know, kind of
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adapted into my world that Ijust have to trust and believe
that it's all happening exactlyas it's meant to.
And it's not until years laterwhen I look back and see that it
happened for me, you know, it'sreally the way it was supposed
to be, and to really trust thatand believe that in advance.
SPEAKER_00 (10:39):
Yeah.
It's it's I think andsurrounding yourself with people
that like when you're in it, umI I call it the suck.
It sucks.
Like sometimes when you're init, but to surround yourself
with people that can um talkpositive to you and and pray for
you and you know, or just loveon you, right?
And say, Yes, we're gonna dothis, like I have faith in you.
Um now we want to talk about uhyour best principle of a
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success, uh, if you have one andif you have a story to share for
that.
SPEAKER_01 (11:06):
Uh I do actually.
So Jack Canfield is uh a mentorof mine.
So I'm gonna just take it backjust a real quick short bit
because in 2017, on March of2017, I was trying to recreate
my life.
So I was like, what's the nextphase gonna look like?
And here it was my problem.
My problem was I had no idea.
I had lived the life that I'dlived for so long that I never
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really thought about what waspast that.
So I went back to the drawingboard and I decided I'm gonna
like look through magazines andI'm gonna start like
visualizing, getting some ideaof what I want because that's a
tool that's really worked for mefor a long time.
So I'm flipping throughmagazines, and the more I'm
flipping through thesemagazines, the more upset I'm
getting because I have no ideawhat I want to do.
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I literally have no idea.
So all of a sudden, I flip thepage and there's this little ad
that says first after 40.
And I was like, wait a second, Iknow why I don't know what I
want to do.
It's because I have no idea whatI like anymore.
I I haven't, I've lived for myfamily, I've lived for my
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career.
I I literally don't know.
And here I am in my 40s, going,I have no idea what I want.
So I was like, maybe I'll givemyself permission to try some
things for the first time.
So I put like speak Spanish,learn piano, go surfing, and it
kind of got me excited aboutsome ideas about what I could do
next.
And that triggered something inme.
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That inspired me to be like,what else is possible?
So then on the center of thatvision board, I put the words
highly educated, and I put apicture of Tony Robbins, Jack
Canfield, and Oprah Winfrey.
Now, this was in March of 2017.
So I put these pictures onthere, and I'm honestly thinking
that I am going to read theirbooks.
Like, I have no idea how it'sgonna work out, right?
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I'm like, I'm just gonna readtheir books.
So it turns out that I ended uptaking Jack Hanfield's training
for becoming a best-sellingauthor, and that was in June.
And by that December, I wassitting in his house on his
couch.
I know, I know.
This literally happened in likenine months.
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So March, I put him on there.
June, I ended up being invitedto, or I take his program.
I bought his program to learnhow to be a best-selling author
through Jack, one of my favoriteauthors, so that made sense to
me.
And then in December, I orNovember, I ended up getting
invited to come or to apply forhis mastermind.
I applied.
And can you believe I was atTony Robbins when they did the
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interview with me?
And as I did this interview,they're like, You're the perfect
fit.
We want you to come, you know,come and be with Jack Hamfield.
So two weeks later, I wassitting in Jack's house.
And what's interesting aboutthat, too.
So remember, I said I put Tony,Jack, and Oprah on this board in
the center of my board.
It's literally on the wallbehind me.
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And as I walked into Jack'shouse, shaking, trembling, like
I cannot believe I'm here.
He told me to find a seat whereI was most comfortable.
So I was going to find the seatthat was the most visible, the
best seat in the house.
I sat down, he came in, he said,It's interesting you decided to
sit there.
And I said, Oh my goodness, isit okay if I sit here?
And he said, Yeah, but that'swhere Oprah sat two weeks ago
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when she was here.
And I remember thinking, it was,I literally put it on my vision
that this is what I wanted.
And here I am.
So in that house, in his house,at that mastermind, this could
brings me back to the successprinciple number one, which is
to take full responsibility foryour life.
100% full responsibility foryour life.
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And I actually said to Jack, I'mreally struggling with that.
It's success principle numberone, and I do not see how we are
all responsible for our lives.
There are so many injusticesthat happen.
There's sometimes we're victimsof things.
How can somebody who gets adisease be responsible for that?
Or somebody who loses someonethey love.
Like, how?
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How is that possible?
And Jack said to me, Iunderstand what you're why
you're asking me this, but hesaid, we're not responsible for
what happens, but we areresponsible for what we do with
what does.
And that really stuck with me.
And it sticks with me even now.
There are always going to bethings that happen in our lives.
I mean, your company shuttingdown your business or pandemic
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shutting down your business, mycompany shutting down during it.
That's just one example.
There's all kinds of things thathappen in our lives.
And we are not responsible forsome of those things that happen
externally, but we areresponsible for what we do with
what does.
There have been people that I'veinterviewed that have taken the
worst situations, that have hadso much pain, so much suffering,
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and they've turned it intopurpose.
They've used it for somethingbetter, or they've they've taken
the lesson and they've madethemselves better because of it.
So that is the principle thathas really been guiding me ever
since and something I come backto often.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
That's a great story and a great principle.
Um, in 2017, where were you inyour life as a mother?
Like were the kids because MCS,right?
Like all of a sudden it's like Ihave no hockey game to go to.
I have no kid.
SPEAKER_01 (16:13):
No.
Actually, okay, so in 2017,that's a great question,
actually.
Where was I at?
So in 2017, here's what wasgoing on in my life.
My son was born in 2011.
So he was actually in 2017, Iwas going through a really
difficult um custody situation.
My girls had just left home.
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My son, I felt very confidentthat he needed to be with me and
to be with his mom.
And he needed me, and I wasgoing through a difficult
situation.
So my girls, my two older girlshad left home already and or had
just left home.
Both of them were gone.
And I was really just kind ofgaining my footing of like,
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okay, this is what life lookslike now.
I am starting my life over, youknow, in a way of I'm not
actively parenting my girls.
I've got, you know, one son athome.
My business is kind of fallingapart.
It's not what I want to doanymore.
So what's next for me?
And it turns out I actually heldmy first event in 2018.
So it was a year later where Iwas, it was a year of
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transition, I guess, and why Ifelt like I needed to go back
and create a new vision for whatI wanted to do.
SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
Wow.
I think those are important toshare because I think there's so
many women out there that arestruggling and thinking, yeah,
but I'm in a really bad spaceright now.
I've got this, and then it'slike so was I.
Like just to share those storiesbecause our lives aren't
perfect.
And oh we don't talk about itenough.
We all talk about the, you know,the social media.
What you see is, you know, a lotof people.
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It's great.
SPEAKER_01 (17:43):
No, I want everybody to follow me then because that
you'll never see that for me.
You'll never see that for me.
I I think that um the value,like I here's the thing about
sharing stories though, for me.
I share the story and thestruggle when I'm in it, and I
say I'm in it, but the point isnot to get sympathy or anything,
it's to be real and to be human.
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I want to be in all myhumanness.
And the goal of sharing storiesis that even if I'm in it, once
I found my way through it, Iwant to come back to it and show
you how I did or what I did, orso that it helps somebody else.
Or the point of sharing a storyis to share it so that they can
see they're not alone.
And you know, I'm gonna stayintent on that because sometimes
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you see people sharing theirstories, but they're sharing
them very much from the place oflike victimhood, of like,
everybody feel sorry for me,pick me up.
And that's not the place I wantto come at it from.
I want to come at every storythat I share is very intentional
in the support of what I'm goingthrough, can help other people
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grow through it as well.
So instead of just focusing onthe wound, I like to focus on
the healing that comes throughit in support of other people.
SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
Which is leading right into my next question
about failures, because I thinkwe both know we learn more from
our failures than our ownsuccess or failings.
Um, I'm wondering if you havesomething that you could share
with us and what you learned.
SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
Well, I really believe that true character is
revealed when you're down, notup.
And this is where you find yourgreatest strength.
And there will be lessons, therewill be blessings, there will be
things that come through it.
And oftentimes when we're in it,we don't know until we come
through the other side that wesee it was it was all happening
as it was meant to be.
But in those defining moments oflike, I'm really down right now,
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I'm really struggling.
As a matter of fact, yesterday Iwas going through a struggle.
I will ask myself, who do Ireally want to be right now?
Like, who do I really want tobe?
Because this is where I can callon my own depth of character and
say, I want to have integrity, Iwant to handle this with class
and grace.
I want, you know, you can callon yourself, the greatest part
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of yourself anytime you chooseto.
And the best time to do that iswhen you're in the struggle.
Who do I really want to be rightnow?
And and then in the highlightparts, so like in the highest
moments of our lives, who do Iwant to be?
Do I want to be gracious?
Do I want to be humble?
You know, we can ask ourselvesthose questions in both the
lowest and the highest times.
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We get to choose who we want.
That is the one thing that weare all empowered to do.
We are all empowered to choosewho we want to be and how we
want to show up in the world.
And it's why we need to developourselves to the point that
we're like, I feel good aboutwho I am and I'm proud of how
I'm living my life.
I really believe that's therecipe that's gonna support us
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at the very end of our lives tosay we we lived how we were
supposed to live in in God'spresence and then who we're here
to be.
Yeah.
So do you have an example ofwhere maybe you have failed and
learned from it?
Like a oh, I've had so manyfailures.
I'm actually having a strugglefiguring out which one I should
tell you.
Actually, I will I'll share oneabout Lee Conference Canada.
Actually, do you remember themoment when Saturday morning?
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So on Friday night, Christina.
Now, Christina is someone Iwatched in the darkest moments
of my life.
And suddenly I have her on mystage at a conference, getting
the opportunity to share herwith other people.
I mean, this was a mind-blowingsituation for me.
So I brought her on Fridaynight.
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I knew she was gonna knock itout of the park, so I had
planned in advance that onSaturday I would interview her
some more because people weregonna want more of her.
So when she came out onto thestage, I don't know if you
remember this, but I remember itvery significantly because it
was a turning point for me.
She came out onto the stage andshe was like, Look at what
you've done.
And I was like, Yeah, it's good,hey.
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Like I just kind of shrugged itoff.
And she's like, No, no, do yousee what you've done?
And I was like, Yeah, it's good.
You know, everybody's having agreat time.
She and I still I minimized itagain.
She sat down, she said, Do yousee this?
And then It was like, okay, shereally the third time hit me.
Stop.
(22:04):
Yeah.
And I was like, you know, I do,but I don't know why I can't
give it to myself.
unknown (22:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
And I felt like I was having a counseling session
for the rest of that on thestage with one of my mentors.
But truly, it was like, whycan't I ever give it to myself?
I always believe that what I dois not enough.
And ever since then, I've beenpeeling back the layers of like,
why do I feel this way?
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Why do why do I feel like I needto prove something?
Why do I have to keep trying tolike be enough?
And no matter what I do, it'snot enough.
Or I do this extraordinary thingand I still can't even let
myself have that or feel goodabout that.
And that that is that has beenone of my biggest challenges.
It's probably a core belief thatI've held about myself for a
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long, long time.
And I have to constantly comeback to it over and over again
to remind myself that, you know,who I am is great.
And it's okay to actually ownthat.
And it comes back to what NelsonMandela said.
He said, when you let your ownlight shine, you give people
unconsciously, you unconsciouslygive other people permission to
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do the same.
And here's what's interestingabout that, Lisa.
It's crazy that I will do it forother people.
When I heard that quote, it waslike unconsciously, I'm gonna
give other people permission todo the same.
That would inspire me more thandoing it for myself.
So it's like I'm gonna own it,not for me, I'm gonna own it so
everybody else will own it too.
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You know?
So I guess coming back, what wasyour question originally?
SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
So I can pull that together?
Uh just about failures andsuccesses, and we learn more.
And I think at that moment youfelt like thanks, it's great.
But it's like, no.
SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
You know what?
It actually felt like it wasn'tenough.
So in my mind, it was a littlebit like a failure, you know,
because the the the audiencedidn't sell out.
So as an example, it wasn't asold-out event.
So because it wasn't a sold-outevent, well, I guess I failed,
right?
Yet I had almost 800 peoplethere.
And yet, you know, but it'sreally how we process it.
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So, and the not enoughness part,you know, that would be so you
you get a choice in everysituation, you get a choice.
Are you gonna learn through it?
Are you gonna grow through it?
Are you gonna examine it and tryto understand and grow and
evolve within yourself so thatyou can um heal it and bring
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more next time, but not for thepurpose of trying to appease or
please anybody else, more sothat you feel good about who you
are.
SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Yeah.
So um I I I'll take this out ifyou want, but I'm gonna ask it.
Um, I know that right after leadconference, you I think you felt
a lot of this, just not enough.
But people came at you on onsocial media.
And I don't know if you canshare more because that was
really hard for you.
And I know you you brought itout a little bit on social
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media, and I probably didn'tfollow up, but that you it hurt.
I don't know if you can talkabout, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:10):
It actually still makes me teary.
So I, you know what, go aheadand keep it because I think it's
one of the most terrifyingthings for people to um put
themselves out there in a realand authentic and vulnerable way
and to do everything that theycan, but you were still human
and we can make mistakes and wecan say it wrong, or people can
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judge it, or they can takewhatever and they make
assumptions about you.
And then when they publiclyattack you, it is it is hard.
It's one of the things thatstops people from even going
there.
They're like, I'm just not evengonna risk it, you know?
And in my case, I genuinelynever even thought about it.
It never once crossed my minduntil I was blindsided by it.
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You know, I I had thought aboutlike how scary, who am I?
I had the imposter syndrome andall that stuff.
I had that, but I never oncegave thought to there's gonna be
people out there who are gonnaattack me for who I am publicly,
that this could happen to me.
And I genuinely never thoughtabout that.
I literally was so ingress, itwas just so called in me that I
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was supposed to do this eventand create the space for people
and that it was supposed to besafe and beautiful.
I was so focused on that forthem that I honestly kind of
forgot about myself.
It just went to the side.
So then when it happenedafterwards, I I just was very
unprepared.
I was exhausted, and I justwasn't in the I wasn't in the
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space to be able to handle it.
So in hindsight, here's twothings.
First of all, whatever whatother people think of you is the
is up to them.
What you have to know is who youare and be grounded in that.
And if you feel good about whoyou are and what you're doing,
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then it doesn't matter whatanybody else says.
I learned this through mydivorce too.
I remembered, I'd just forgottenin that moment.
But I remember thinking, mylawyer saying, you know, we need
to do this, we need to do that.
And and I was like, you knowwhat?
I need time to really thinkabout it because I had decided I
was going to take the high roadevery time.
No matter what, I was gonna takethe high road and do the right
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thing for me.
And that way, that no matterwhat anybody said, it didn't
matter because I knew.
So the same thing applied inthat situation.
The problem was is I I justreally didn't expect it.
And it was so public and I wasso exhausted that I just
couldn't, I couldn't see it, youknow.
So I guess that's the firstthing about that.
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And the second thing is, is Iknew, even though how hard it
was, again, I knew it washappening for me because I knew
that the more that I went andthe more that I wanted to do
things like this, there was thatwas gonna happen.
And I needed to understand that.
And that was my first experiencewith it.
And it took me, it took me agood year, honestly, to to even
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fully be grounded in that.
It was it was really hard for meafter that.
And then as I kept feelingcalled to do it again, I was
like, Corless, are you sure?
Why?
Why would you put yourself inthat position?
And then I was like, I'm goingto because I'm called to.
I feel it, I'm supposed to doit, so I'm gonna do it, but I
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have to know that that's gonnahappen and I have to be prepared
for that.
And I have to stay grounded inwho I am and that it's gonna
strengthen me, and that theright people will always align
and the wrong people will not,and that's okay.
And I have to just recognizethat that could be a part of the
journey.
Maybe it won't be that time, butthere's a chance that it could
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be.
You know, we all make mistakes,and there are gonna be people
who will attack you for thosemistakes, and then there's going
to be people who will be like, Imade mistakes too.
I think there's a verse in theBible actually that says, He who
is without sin, throw the firststone, something like that.
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And I'm gonna really practicethat where I am not gonna throw
stones when people makemistakes.
I'm gonna try not to judge themand hoping that that comes full
circle, that my example, youknow, supports other people and
doing that as well.
So I am prepared for it tohappen.
People are always coming fromwherever they're at.
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And I'm gonna forgive myself formy own mistakes.
I'm gonna practice not beingjudgmental of other people and
just supporting them.
And there is a way to handlethings.
You know, this particular group,they could have just come to me
and said, Hey, you know what?
We're feeling this way, and Icould have had a chance to like
learn from it or grow from it,or they could have attacked me,
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which is what they chose to do.
I'm gonna choose the the firstoption every time.
SPEAKER_00 (30:01):
Yeah, core less.
Thank you for sharing because Ithink um there's there's not
good people out there, and youwe have we have to be ready, as
you said, and you weren't, andyou are now you know that they
are there and you'll beconscious of it.
Um it's still it's still it'sstill crappy and it still will
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happen, and but we're betterprepared for it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:26):
You know what?
Everybody is wherever they're aton their journey, and I'm not
better than anyone else.
You know, I I don't want tothink I'm better than or
anything.
I I just really think that we'reall on our own journey.
We're all we're all here, youknow, for a reason, and we're
all gonna learn what whereverwe're supposed to learn.
And God is helping us along withthat.
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And we're all just you just haveto do the best you can.
This is why it has to come backto like you.
It really has to come back toyou, your connection with
yourself, your connection withsomething that's bigger than
you.
We're all here for a reason andto serve that in the best of
your ability in how you liveyour life, in the example that
you are.
And that's it.
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You know, some people aren'tgonna align because they're in a
different place in theirjourney.
So that's okay.
We're all here to learn fromeach other in some way, shape,
or form.
And we're also connected.
So I'm gonna just send love.
I'm like, I'm just gonna sendlove next time.
Instead of being broken by it,I'm just gonna be like, you need
love.
You know, Christina said on thestage, you remember because this
was going on during theconference.
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They knew that I couldn'trespond.
I was busy with the conference,right?
So they knew this was going onthe whole time.
It wasn't just after.
Yeah, it was awful.
And thankfully, Christina wasthere because Christina has lots
of trolls.
And you remember, I asked her onthe stage, I said, Yes, what do
you like?
What do you what do you think ofthe trolls?
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Because I was battling this,like I was going through this,
and she said, Oh, it's justsomebody who needs a hug.
I remember.
Do you remember?
And we laughed about thatbecause it's true.
It was just somebody who needs ahug.
And you know, because really, ifyou're in a place of love and
loving yourself and loving yourlike, you don't go out and try
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and attack people, you don't goout and try and bring them down,
especially somebody who'sgenuinely trying to do something
good.
You don't do that, you know.
So their hearts are, you know,full of hate or something or
resentment or something.
So I'm like, you know what?
I'm just gonna send them love.
So should that ever show up inmy life again?
I'm just gonna remember that isthis all me or is there anything
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I can learn here?
That's the first thing.
Is there anything I can learnhere?
Is there something that can helpme grow?
And then maybe there issomething to look at.
So check it out and thenconsider the source.
Is this the source that I shouldbe looking at?
And then if it's not, you knowwhat?
Release it and send it withlove.
Bless and release with love.
SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
Yeah, because I think the troll, the devil,
wants us to hide, wants us tokeep it inside and go, you're no
good.
Like just stop what you're doingbecause but you knew the
purpose.
So thanks for sharing that.
So at Leader Impact, we want togrow personally, professionally,
and spiritually for increasingimpact.
And I feel like you already didthis, but if you have an example
of how the spiritual makes apractical difference in your
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life as a leader, it does.
SPEAKER_01 (33:12):
As a matter of fact, sometimes I go into the mode of
like do, do, do, do, do.
I gotta do more, I gotta do allthis.
And then I burn myself out.
I become exhausted.
And even if my intentions aregood, you know, that what I'm
doing is like serving morepeople.
It's like, wait a second, I am ahuman being.
I am not here to do, I amco-creating with God, but I'm
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not here to be God.
I don't have to do it all.
And I have to actually stop andask myself why?
Why am I doing what I'm doing?
This is a really big thing forme, where it's like I get caught
up in this pattern of like, Igotta do more, I gotta be more,
I gotta show up more, I gottado, you know.
And it's like this franticness,and it's like, wait, stop for a
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second.
Why are you doing what you'redoing?
Does it align with who you are,what your purpose is, what you
feel you're here for?
Does it serve something that isimportant in your life in in the
big picture?
And if not, then I just gottastop.
Like just stop and just pausefor a second.
So it's like just going inwithin.
You know, every time I speaknow, so now I've really pivoted
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into professional speaking.
And and uh oftentimes they'llask me about that.
They'll say, you know, how doyou how do you do that?
Like I just spoke in Reginaactually for 60 straight
minutes, and everybody keptsaying, we have never seen
somebody do it without anyslides, without any, and I said,
You they said, How do you dothat?
And I said, I'll tell youexactly how I do it.
Before I go out there, Iremember that speaking has
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nothing to do with me.
Speaking is all about the peoplethat I'm serving.
And I look to the person at theback of the room, not
necessarily the actual person,but I just envision the person
at the back of the room.
What are they feeling?
What are they struggling with?
What could I possibly help themwith?
And then I go and I speak tothat person because the power of
one is really real.
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And if you can help one person,that person takes that with them
everywhere that they go and theyinfluence somebody, and then
somebody's influence there thatthey've touched, and it goes on.
So that's why I just reallyspeak to the one person at the
back of the room.
And I allow God to speak throughme.
It's like, God, what do you wantme to say?
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Now, don't get me wrong.
I know my message, I know whatI'm there to say, I know I'm
there to support the organizersand what they're trying to do
and why they hired me.
But I really get grounded in thehuman beings that I'm there to
serve and that I have a voicethat I can use to speak in a way
that supports people.
And I feel like that's Godworking through me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:42):
Corless, you're brilliant.
I love listening to you becausesometimes I think we forget.
You know, we walk on stage andit's all about us.
Do I look good?
Do I, you know, am I funny?
Am I and we think like, no, didyou earn the right to speak
here?
Like, are you speak to oneperson in the back of the room?
Are you changing a life?
And and let the Holy Spiritspeak through you.
(36:02):
Like, I yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
I can share one thing here.
So, Jack Ekstrom, so her um TEDxtalk, because I'm about to do a
TEDx talk, and what a beautifulopportunity I'm being given
here.
I never even applied.
They came to me and they werelike, We love what you're about.
You know, do you have a messagethat you want to bring to the
TEDx stage?
And I just know, I know Godwants me to speak this message.
(36:24):
It is very original, and I knowI'm supposed to speak it, and
it's coming up in the next fewmonths.
And in this um supportingprogram, I've met some really
extraordinary coaches andpeople.
And this one woman, her name isJack Ekstrom, and she uh has a
TEDx talk that went millions,like it's got lots of millions
of views.
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She's beautiful, she's abeautiful human being.
It's so, it's so lovely.
I've had a chance to meet herand and talk with her.
Anyway, having said that, shesays there's two types of
speakers.
There's the lighthouse speaker,and then there's the spotlight
speaker.
So the spotlight speaker iswhere the spotlight's on me.
Everybody look at me.
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How do I look?
It's it's very egocentric,right?
Because it's like, look at how Iam.
I'm out here with a message, Iknow my stuff, trying to prove
that kind of thing, you know?
And then there's the lighthousespeaker where it's like you're
there to be a lighthouse forother people.
I want to be a lighthouse.
I want to shine the light to theperson at the back of the room
because if I can shine a lightfor the person at the back of
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the room, my light toucheseverybody between me and the the
me and them, from the stage tothe person at the back.
So just just remember that.
I mean, there's definitelyskills to develop and all those
things, but every time youspeak, I feel like there's you
don't have to earn the right tospeak.
I think that because you'rehere, you have a voice and you
should use it, especially ifyou're grounded in using it for
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a purpose, for a reason, insupport of someone else.
SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
Yeah.
Oh that was great.
Thank you for sharing that.
Um, at Leader Impact, we arededicated to leaders having a
lasting impact.
So as you continue to movethrough this amazing journey
that you share, uh, what haveyou considered your faith legacy
to be when you leave this world?
SPEAKER_01 (38:11):
So that was that's an interesting question because
I I've certainly considered mylegacy, but not necessarily my
faith legacy.
So I don't know that I have areally great answer for you
there.
I think in reality, what Ireally do believe in the power
of one.
I believe that, you know, if I'mhere being the best version of
myself and bringing that to theworld in whatever capacity I'm
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capable of, that my legacy liveson through everybody that I
touch and every life that Iinfluence.
And to me, that's whatleadership is.
Leadership is about impact andinfluence.
I love what you guys are doing.
I'm so grateful I get to be apart of it in some little teeny
tiny way.
But I think that the more thatyou can bring your best, you
know, to the world, whereveryou're at in your journey, you
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know, we're all evolving, we'reall growing.
And if you keep growing andsharing that and bringing that
to other people, then I thinkyour legacy lives on far past.
It goes far further than whatthe eye can see, and it'll live
on way past you even being herephysically in the physical form.
SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Yeah.
I go right back to your commentabout the spotlight speaker in
the lighthouse, and you are alighthouse.
Like you just shine brightly andand love on everyone when when I
see you speak.
Um I I feel it.
Like it's not just coreless.
It's just you, I feel likeyou're looking right into my
soul.
So you are you are thislighthouse.
Um, thank you for sharing that.
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That means everything to me.
Thank you.
Uh so our last question is whatbrings you the greatest joy?
SPEAKER_01 (39:39):
My grandson and my dog.
Uh, you know, it's the innocenceof those two.
I was actually thinking about itbecause of course you had sent
me that question in advance.
And I was like, what does bringme the own my my most joy?
And my grandson is just so Ihave one grandson, I have
another coming up um in July.
I'm so excited.
And it's such a beautiful thing,but honestly, it's the innocence
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and the joy of like children.
I literally, you know, they saydo more that makes you forget
your phone.
I don't even care about anythingwhen I am with that little boy.
It is just so beautiful and soprecious.
And kind of the same thinghappens when I'm with my dog.
My dog is just love, he's justpure love, you know.
So it's like I can't help but bewith him, and he's just love.
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It's just children and pets arelike pure love, and pure love is
connected to joy.
So those are the two things,honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (40:31):
Oh, Corless, that was lovely.
Uh, I want to thank you forjoining us.
SPEAKER_01 (40:36):
Can I add one more thing?
Okay, good.
Because you know what?
I I this I have to say this, Idon't know who needs to hear it.
When all that was going down,when Lee Conference was
happening, and I stepped on ontothat stage the morning of Lee
Conference.
I can honestly tell you, I feltso much joy.
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It was like it was gone in asecond.
Everything that was going on inthe external world was literally
vanished.
And in that moment, I was like,this is nothing but pure joy.
I am exactly where I'm supposedto be.
So sometimes we look for theexternal things, you know, the
dog and the and the grandchildor whatever.
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But the other thing is, is whenyou know that you're on purpose
in who you are, exactly whereGod wants you to be, you will
feel joy.
And I can honestly say it waslike he placed me there himself.
It's like he picked me up andjust put me right there, even
with everything going onexternally, and it was like you
are exactly where you'resupposed to be.
And the joy was so beautiful.
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And that's why I know I'msupposed to do this because God
put it right in my heart.
SPEAKER_00 (41:45):
Yeah.
I love that because I believethat.
I believe I get, I feel likethere's such a joy, as you said,
when you know you you areexactly where you're supposed to
be.
And it could be in aconversation, you know you
should have been there, you wereplaced to be here.
You were, and even if it's notjoyous, like you you are placed
in a conversation, you're like,oh boy god, here we go.
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You know, but you know that youwere placed and it's you know,
to do your best.
That is oh that brings me joy.
That was really good.
I'm glad you, I'm glad that youfelt you needed to say that.
That was awesome.
Thank you for inviting me too.
Corless, I have loved this last42 minutes.
You're just you are a joy.
Thank you for joining us.
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Now, if people want to reach outfor you, they're like, I need to
talk to Corless.
I'd love to hear more about her,read the books, the podcasts.
What's the best place to findyou?
SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
Definitely my website.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm on all the social,like you'll find me there.
Um, but of course, social islike hit and miss, right?
What you'll see.
Um, so I would recommend mywebsite.
You know, every all my servicesare there.
There's lots of free offersthere.
A link to my podcast is there.
And um, you can also sign up formy weekly Kickstart.
So Monday Motivation is whatI've called it.
(42:57):
So every Monday you can get amessage direct from me to your
inbox.
So not a marketing email, butjust really a high-touch
connect.
So um feel free to connect withme on my website.
That's the best place.
Corlos.
Corlus.
Corlos.
SPEAKER_00 (43:10):
All right.
Thank you again, Corlus.
It has been just a pleasure tobe with you.
Yeah, right back at you.
Thank you again.
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I'm your host, Lisa Peters, andour guest today is Corless
Rasil.
Corless is a Canadianinspirational speaker, certified
success principles coach, dareto lead trainer, and the founder
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and CEO of Corless Co-ConsultingIncorporated, based in
Saskatchewan.
She is the best-selling authorof Lead Your Life, How to Live
with Purpose, Passion, andConfidence, and hosts one of
Canada's leadingself-improvement podcasts,
Conversations with Corless.
Corless is also the visionaryfounder and the host of Lead
Conference Canada, empoweringindividuals to lead their lives
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with intention and impact.
Welcome to the show, Corless.
SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
I'm so happy to be here.
Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_00 (01:17):
I am so thankful for you.
I know we had been friends, butmy first time I really got to
hear from you was the LeadConference Canada.
And uh you blew me away with Imean, can't Jack Canfield was
there.
Yeah, that was while he was met.
And the other lady who's uhArlene Dickinson.
Arlene Dickinson, how could Iforget that?
(01:39):
Yeah, and Christina Kuzmich.
Yes, and then some local, but itwas, I was like, how does
Corless do this?
But you just believe.
Like, you believe.
You have such a strength.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
I do believe, and I also believe it's guided by God.
So uh it's so much bigger thanme, and I knew it was right from
the beginning, and I knew thateverything that was supposed to
happen would happen, and it did.
SPEAKER_00 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah.
So we're gonna dive right inbecause I'm excited to hear more
about your story.
We love hearing people's storiesand uh the professional story on
how you how you got to where youare today, the journey.
But we mostly want to hear aboutthose pivotal turning points,
and if you have one or two thatyou could share.
SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
Sure, I'd love that.
Um, first of all, I really doappreciate you giving me the
opportunity to share my story.
I think it's so beautiful.
I believe that when we hear eachother's stories, even though our
circumstances are different andwhere we're at is different,
where our backgrounds somehowwe're all connected through um
what we experience in life.
And it's a real pleasure for meto have a chance to actually
(02:40):
share with you.
Um, so there's a few things.
There's a couple things here onmy professional journey.
The first one is that I fellinto a direct sales company.
And I say fell into it because Ireally feel like I did.
I feel like it was all guided,it was all exactly as it was
supposed to be.
But when I joined this company,my only goal was to do it for a
(03:01):
couple of weeks.
You know how you have thisfull-time job and you're just
gonna do a side hustle, and thenthe side hustle ended up
becoming my full-time career.
And it was one of the mostbeautiful experiences.
It is why I believe that everysingle one decision can
completely change the directionof your life.
And that one decision did.
And I didn't even know it was abig decision at the time.
(03:22):
So I joined Party Light on awhim, just expecting to get a
few candles, some extra cash.
That's all I was doing it for.
And it turned into that thereason I started wasn't the
reason I stayed.
So I started for me, and I endedup staying because I discovered
that it would actually give mean opportunity to fulfill a
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bigger purpose in my life whereI could actually take what I
learned, what I knew, thebusiness became a vehicle for me
to actually help other people.
So I always say that I went fromlighting homes to lighting
lives, and that is actually whatkept me there from I was there
for I started for two weeks andI ended up being there for 28
years.
So it was pretty extraordinary.
(04:03):
Yeah, it was a beautiful thing.
And it gave me such anincredible opportunity to align
myself with my values of helpingpeople, but also staying home to
raise my three kids.
And it was just honestly justbeautiful.
Everything about that companywas beautiful and it helped me
grow into who I am today andprepared me for what's next.
SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
I don't think ple people believe in like, can I
really make a side hustle work?
Can I really make my passionwork?
But you found so much more thanlighting candles.
SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
I did, but I it also gave me an opportunity to make a
living.
I mean, what an incredibleopportunity it gave me.
I was able to stay home.
I so I had my children.
So when I started, I had nochildren.
So I had my first daughter, andthat was when I was like, I
don't want to make, I don't wantthis to be a side hustle now.
I want this to be a career whereI can stay home and raise my
daughter.
And every time I looked into herbig, beautiful blue eyes, I was
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like, I have to figure out howto make this work.
And honestly, there was no planB.
For me, it was plan A.
And people would often say tome, How do you do it?
Like, how do you have so muchsuccess?
How do you sell so much?
How do you have have you howhave you built such a big team?
And I was like, There's just noother option.
They said, Don't you get no's?
And I'm like, all the time.
I just don't pay attention tothem because there is no other
(05:16):
option for me.
I need to stay home with mydaughter, and I'm so blessed and
so lucky that I have theopportunity to do so.
I'm just gonna make it happen,and that's all there is to it.
Yeah.
Wow.
And then I mean, from there toso from there, so yeah, yeah.
So how you're like, how did thathappen?
Yeah.
So here's what happened.
So around the 22 or 23 yearmark, I really started feeling
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unsettled.
So I was blessed and I wasgrateful.
I mean, I got to work from home.
I had had and raised my threechildren, built my business,
helped other women grow.
I traveled the world.
I mean, I was the person thatone time I was outside of um
Ottawa, I was in Ottawaactually, and I was on this big,
(06:02):
beautiful uh leader retreat, andthey had these limousines lined
up for us outside.
I remember, I can't remember thename of the drive, but it was
like, you know, right by theParliament buildings.
And I was hustling to get outthere, and we were all in
evening gowns.
We were going to this big event,and I remember coming out the
door, and I was so shockedbecause there was all these
people there with cameras, andit was like a paparazzi because
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all the limousines were lined upand they were like, This must be
movie stars.
So when I came out, somebodystarted taking pictures and
they're like, There she is,there's Meg Ryan.
I was like, What?
What's going on?
They thought I was Meg Ryan.
I was so taken aback that I wentto go get into the limousine and
I put my bum in first and mylegs kicked up and kind of went
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out and I kind of fell into thecar.
And people were taking pictures,and I was like, Well, tomorrow
there's gonna be big newsheadlines that Meg Ryan fell
into this car.
But they thought I was her.
Like it was such anextraordinary opportunity.
But around, you know, 22 years,I just started feeling like
there was something more.
I just didn't know what it was,and I didn't want to give up.
I had security there, right?
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So I didn't want to give up whatI'd built.
And I was also really gratefulfor what I had.
But, you know, you get thatfeeling that you're just like
unsettled, there's somethingelse.
So it turns out that I stayedthere for a few more years and
had that unsettled feeling.
And then my personal life kindof came crashing down.
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And when my personal life camecrashing down, my professional
life kind of came crashing downwith it.
And I was faced in this verydark time of like, what do I
want this to look like now?
And I realized that I couldeither quit ignoring that little
knowing inside of me, or I couldreally start to follow what I
felt called to.
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And that's when I that's what Idid.
I kind of went back to thedrawing board and said, What do
I really love about my business?
What do I really love to do?
And how can I expand this?
And one of the things aboutthis, Lisa, that is really
important is this is why Ibelieve that everything happens
for us and it happens through usto help us become who we're here
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to be and to fulfill a biggerpurpose.
And how I looked at Party Lightat that time was I was doing it
for me.
It had, it was giving me aliving.
I was grateful for what it had.
But because I was called formore, it wouldn't go away
because I was called for more.
And I had to like kind of gowithin myself and really do some
deep reflection about like whatam I supposed to be doing?
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Like, I was actually asking God,help me figure out what I'm
meant to do.
And what I realized was that Ihad an opportunity because I had
been on the stage, I had beenbackstage, I had been in the
audience learning that if I wasto take all of those experiences
and all those skills and allthose talents and everything
I've developed through myparty-like career, that I could
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use it for a bigger purpose.
And now I could create somethingwhere anybody from any walk of
life could come to this eventand learn and grow.
And I was the one who couldcreate that for them.
So that's what ended upevolving.
So I ended up doing it for acouple more years, kind of under
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the wire.
And then the pandemic happened,and they actually changed the
business model anyway.
And immediately when thathappened, instead of being
really crushed and devastatedabout it, I immediately knew I
was being released from what Iwas not supposed to be doing and
guided towards what I wassupposed to be doing.
And that's where my company kindof took off and where Lake
Conference Canada Vision cametogether.
SPEAKER_00 (09:35):
You know, I have the exact same story in that I felt
like COVID released me from whatI was doing.
I I loved events, I had acorporate event management firm,
but COVID shut it down.
And then all of a sudden it'slike I I just found this.
Okay, God, what else am Isupposed to do?
But I I felt a happiness.
It's like, okay, I got released.
But sad because you lost a lotof money and there's, you know,
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yeah.
But you know, you I just knewthat I've I'll find I'll find
the purpose.
SPEAKER_01 (10:02):
So I have so I need chills as you're saying that
because I really feel that.
Like I really feel it.
I feel like when we're in, youknow, the hardest of times and
the most challenging, we wedon't know how we're gonna get
through it.
We don't know how it's gonnawork out, but we really do have
to trust.
It's one of the life lessonsthat I've I've you know, kind of
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adapted into my world that Ijust have to trust and believe
that it's all happening exactlyas it's meant to.
And it's not until years laterwhen I look back and see that it
happened for me, you know, it'sreally the way it was supposed
to be, and to really trust thatand believe that in advance.
SPEAKER_00 (10:39):
Yeah.
It's it's I think andsurrounding yourself with people
that like when you're in it, umI I call it the suck.
It sucks.
Like sometimes when you're init, but to surround yourself
with people that can um talkpositive to you and and pray for
you and you know, or just loveon you, right?
And say, Yes, we're gonna dothis, like I have faith in you.
Um now we want to talk about uhyour best principle of a
(11:02):
success, uh, if you have one andif you have a story to share for
that.
SPEAKER_01 (11:06):
Uh I do actually.
So Jack Canfield is uh a mentorof mine.
So I'm gonna just take it backjust a real quick short bit
because in 2017, on March of2017, I was trying to recreate
my life.
So I was like, what's the nextphase gonna look like?
And here it was my problem.
My problem was I had no idea.
I had lived the life that I'dlived for so long that I never
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really thought about what waspast that.
So I went back to the drawingboard and I decided I'm gonna
like look through magazines andI'm gonna start like
visualizing, getting some ideaof what I want because that's a
tool that's really worked for mefor a long time.
So I'm flipping throughmagazines, and the more I'm
flipping through thesemagazines, the more upset I'm
getting because I have no ideawhat I want to do.
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I literally have no idea.
So all of a sudden, I flip thepage and there's this little ad
that says first after 40.
And I was like, wait a second, Iknow why I don't know what I
want to do.
It's because I have no idea whatI like anymore.
I I haven't, I've lived for myfamily, I've lived for my
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career.
I I literally don't know.
And here I am in my 40s, going,I have no idea what I want.
So I was like, maybe I'll givemyself permission to try some
things for the first time.
So I put like speak Spanish,learn piano, go surfing, and it
kind of got me excited aboutsome ideas about what I could do
next.
And that triggered something inme.
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That inspired me to be like,what else is possible?
So then on the center of thatvision board, I put the words
highly educated, and I put apicture of Tony Robbins, Jack
Canfield, and Oprah Winfrey.
Now, this was in March of 2017.
So I put these pictures onthere, and I'm honestly thinking
that I am going to read theirbooks.
Like, I have no idea how it'sgonna work out, right?
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I'm like, I'm just gonna readtheir books.
So it turns out that I ended uptaking Jack Hanfield's training
for becoming a best-sellingauthor, and that was in June.
And by that December, I wassitting in his house on his
couch.
I know, I know.
This literally happened in likenine months.
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So March, I put him on there.
June, I ended up being invitedto, or I take his program.
I bought his program to learnhow to be a best-selling author
through Jack, one of my favoriteauthors, so that made sense to
me.
And then in December, I orNovember, I ended up getting
invited to come or to apply forhis mastermind.
I applied.
And can you believe I was atTony Robbins when they did the
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interview with me?
And as I did this interview,they're like, You're the perfect
fit.
We want you to come, you know,come and be with Jack Hamfield.
So two weeks later, I wassitting in Jack's house.
And what's interesting aboutthat, too.
So remember, I said I put Tony,Jack, and Oprah on this board in
the center of my board.
It's literally on the wallbehind me.
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And as I walked into Jack'shouse, shaking, trembling, like
I cannot believe I'm here.
He told me to find a seat whereI was most comfortable.
So I was going to find the seatthat was the most visible, the
best seat in the house.
I sat down, he came in, he said,It's interesting you decided to
sit there.
And I said, Oh my goodness, isit okay if I sit here?
And he said, Yeah, but that'swhere Oprah sat two weeks ago
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when she was here.
And I remember thinking, it was,I literally put it on my vision
that this is what I wanted.
And here I am.
So in that house, in his house,at that mastermind, this could
brings me back to the successprinciple number one, which is
to take full responsibility foryour life.
100% full responsibility foryour life.
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And I actually said to Jack, I'mreally struggling with that.
It's success principle numberone, and I do not see how we are
all responsible for our lives.
There are so many injusticesthat happen.
There's sometimes we're victimsof things.
How can somebody who gets adisease be responsible for that?
Or somebody who loses someonethey love.
Like, how?
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How is that possible?
And Jack said to me, Iunderstand what you're why
you're asking me this, but hesaid, we're not responsible for
what happens, but we areresponsible for what we do with
what does.
And that really stuck with me.
And it sticks with me even now.
There are always going to bethings that happen in our lives.
I mean, your company shuttingdown your business or pandemic
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shutting down your business, mycompany shutting down during it.
That's just one example.
There's all kinds of things thathappen in our lives.
And we are not responsible forsome of those things that happen
externally, but we areresponsible for what we do with
what does.
There have been people that I'veinterviewed that have taken the
worst situations, that have hadso much pain, so much suffering,
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and they've turned it intopurpose.
They've used it for somethingbetter, or they've they've taken
the lesson and they've madethemselves better because of it.
So that is the principle thathas really been guiding me ever
since and something I come backto often.
Wow.
SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
That's a great story and a great principle.
Um, in 2017, where were you inyour life as a mother?
Like were the kids because MCS,right?
Like all of a sudden it's like Ihave no hockey game to go to.
I have no kid.
SPEAKER_01 (16:13):
No.
Actually, okay, so in 2017,that's a great question,
actually.
Where was I at?
So in 2017, here's what wasgoing on in my life.
My son was born in 2011.
So he was actually in 2017, Iwas going through a really
difficult um custody situation.
My girls had just left home.
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My son, I felt very confidentthat he needed to be with me and
to be with his mom.
And he needed me, and I wasgoing through a difficult
situation.
So my girls, my two older girlshad left home already and or had
just left home.
Both of them were gone.
And I was really just kind ofgaining my footing of like,
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okay, this is what life lookslike now.
I am starting my life over, youknow, in a way of I'm not
actively parenting my girls.
I've got, you know, one son athome.
My business is kind of fallingapart.
It's not what I want to doanymore.
So what's next for me?
And it turns out I actually heldmy first event in 2018.
So it was a year later where Iwas, it was a year of
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transition, I guess, and why Ifelt like I needed to go back
and create a new vision for whatI wanted to do.
SPEAKER_00 (17:22):
Wow.
I think those are important toshare because I think there's so
many women out there that arestruggling and thinking, yeah,
but I'm in a really bad spaceright now.
I've got this, and then it'slike so was I.
Like just to share those storiesbecause our lives aren't
perfect.
And oh we don't talk about itenough.
We all talk about the, you know,the social media.
What you see is, you know, a lotof people.
(17:42):
It's great.
SPEAKER_01 (17:43):
No, I want everybody to follow me then because that
you'll never see that for me.
You'll never see that for me.
I I think that um the value,like I here's the thing about
sharing stories though, for me.
I share the story and thestruggle when I'm in it, and I
say I'm in it, but the point isnot to get sympathy or anything,
it's to be real and to be human.
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I want to be in all myhumanness.
And the goal of sharing storiesis that even if I'm in it, once
I found my way through it, Iwant to come back to it and show
you how I did or what I did, orso that it helps somebody else.
Or the point of sharing a storyis to share it so that they can
see they're not alone.
And you know, I'm gonna stayintent on that because sometimes
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you see people sharing theirstories, but they're sharing
them very much from the place oflike victimhood, of like,
everybody feel sorry for me,pick me up.
And that's not the place I wantto come at it from.
I want to come at every storythat I share is very intentional
in the support of what I'm goingthrough, can help other people
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grow through it as well.
So instead of just focusing onthe wound, I like to focus on
the healing that comes throughit in support of other people.
SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
Which is leading right into my next question
about failures, because I thinkwe both know we learn more from
our failures than our ownsuccess or failings.
Um, I'm wondering if you havesomething that you could share
with us and what you learned.
SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
Well, I really believe that true character is
revealed when you're down, notup.
And this is where you find yourgreatest strength.
And there will be lessons, therewill be blessings, there will be
things that come through it.
And oftentimes when we're in it,we don't know until we come
through the other side that wesee it was it was all happening
as it was meant to be.
But in those defining moments oflike, I'm really down right now,
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I'm really struggling.
As a matter of fact, yesterday Iwas going through a struggle.
I will ask myself, who do Ireally want to be right now?
Like, who do I really want tobe?
Because this is where I can callon my own depth of character and
say, I want to have integrity, Iwant to handle this with class
and grace.
I want, you know, you can callon yourself, the greatest part
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of yourself anytime you chooseto.
And the best time to do that iswhen you're in the struggle.
Who do I really want to be rightnow?
And and then in the highlightparts, so like in the highest
moments of our lives, who do Iwant to be?
Do I want to be gracious?
Do I want to be humble?
You know, we can ask ourselvesthose questions in both the
lowest and the highest times.
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We get to choose who we want.
That is the one thing that weare all empowered to do.
We are all empowered to choosewho we want to be and how we
want to show up in the world.
And it's why we need to developourselves to the point that
we're like, I feel good aboutwho I am and I'm proud of how
I'm living my life.
I really believe that's therecipe that's gonna support us
(20:38):
at the very end of our lives tosay we we lived how we were
supposed to live in in God'spresence and then who we're here
to be.
Yeah.
So do you have an example ofwhere maybe you have failed and
learned from it?
Like a oh, I've had so manyfailures.
I'm actually having a strugglefiguring out which one I should
tell you.
Actually, I will I'll share oneabout Lee Conference Canada.
Actually, do you remember themoment when Saturday morning?
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So on Friday night, Christina.
Now, Christina is someone Iwatched in the darkest moments
of my life.
And suddenly I have her on mystage at a conference, getting
the opportunity to share herwith other people.
I mean, this was a mind-blowingsituation for me.
So I brought her on Fridaynight.
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I knew she was gonna knock itout of the park, so I had
planned in advance that onSaturday I would interview her
some more because people weregonna want more of her.
So when she came out onto thestage, I don't know if you
remember this, but I remember itvery significantly because it
was a turning point for me.
She came out onto the stage andshe was like, Look at what
you've done.
And I was like, Yeah, it's good,hey.
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Like I just kind of shrugged itoff.
And she's like, No, no, do yousee what you've done?
And I was like, Yeah, it's good.
You know, everybody's having agreat time.
She and I still I minimized itagain.
She sat down, she said, Do yousee this?
And then It was like, okay, shereally the third time hit me.
Stop.
(22:04):
Yeah.
And I was like, you know, I do,but I don't know why I can't
give it to myself.
unknown (22:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
And I felt like I was having a counseling session
for the rest of that on thestage with one of my mentors.
But truly, it was like, whycan't I ever give it to myself?
I always believe that what I dois not enough.
And ever since then, I've beenpeeling back the layers of like,
why do I feel this way?
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Why do why do I feel like I needto prove something?
Why do I have to keep trying tolike be enough?
And no matter what I do, it'snot enough.
Or I do this extraordinary thingand I still can't even let
myself have that or feel goodabout that.
And that that is that has beenone of my biggest challenges.
It's probably a core belief thatI've held about myself for a
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long, long time.
And I have to constantly comeback to it over and over again
to remind myself that, you know,who I am is great.
And it's okay to actually ownthat.
And it comes back to what NelsonMandela said.
He said, when you let your ownlight shine, you give people
unconsciously, you unconsciouslygive other people permission to
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do the same.
And here's what's interestingabout that, Lisa.
It's crazy that I will do it forother people.
When I heard that quote, it waslike unconsciously, I'm gonna
give other people permission todo the same.
That would inspire me more thandoing it for myself.
So it's like I'm gonna own it,not for me, I'm gonna own it so
everybody else will own it too.
(23:36):
You know?
So I guess coming back, what wasyour question originally?
SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
So I can pull that together?
Uh just about failures andsuccesses, and we learn more.
And I think at that moment youfelt like thanks, it's great.
But it's like, no.
SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
You know what?
It actually felt like it wasn'tenough.
So in my mind, it was a littlebit like a failure, you know,
because the the the audiencedidn't sell out.
So as an example, it wasn't asold-out event.
So because it wasn't a sold-outevent, well, I guess I failed,
right?
Yet I had almost 800 peoplethere.
And yet, you know, but it'sreally how we process it.
(24:14):
So, and the not enoughness part,you know, that would be so you
you get a choice in everysituation, you get a choice.
Are you gonna learn through it?
Are you gonna grow through it?
Are you gonna examine it and tryto understand and grow and
evolve within yourself so thatyou can um heal it and bring
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more next time, but not for thepurpose of trying to appease or
please anybody else, more sothat you feel good about who you
are.
SPEAKER_00 (24:42):
Yeah.
So um I I I'll take this out ifyou want, but I'm gonna ask it.
Um, I know that right after leadconference, you I think you felt
a lot of this, just not enough.
But people came at you on onsocial media.
And I don't know if you canshare more because that was
really hard for you.
And I know you you brought itout a little bit on social
(25:03):
media, and I probably didn'tfollow up, but that you it hurt.
I don't know if you can talkabout, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (25:10):
It actually still makes me teary.
So I, you know what, go aheadand keep it because I think it's
one of the most terrifyingthings for people to um put
themselves out there in a realand authentic and vulnerable way
and to do everything that theycan, but you were still human
and we can make mistakes and wecan say it wrong, or people can
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judge it, or they can takewhatever and they make
assumptions about you.
And then when they publiclyattack you, it is it is hard.
It's one of the things thatstops people from even going
there.
They're like, I'm just not evengonna risk it, you know?
And in my case, I genuinelynever even thought about it.
It never once crossed my minduntil I was blindsided by it.
(25:56):
You know, I I had thought aboutlike how scary, who am I?
I had the imposter syndrome andall that stuff.
I had that, but I never oncegave thought to there's gonna be
people out there who are gonnaattack me for who I am publicly,
that this could happen to me.
And I genuinely never thoughtabout that.
I literally was so ingress, itwas just so called in me that I
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was supposed to do this eventand create the space for people
and that it was supposed to besafe and beautiful.
I was so focused on that forthem that I honestly kind of
forgot about myself.
It just went to the side.
So then when it happenedafterwards, I I just was very
unprepared.
I was exhausted, and I justwasn't in the I wasn't in the
(26:40):
space to be able to handle it.
So in hindsight, here's twothings.
First of all, whatever whatother people think of you is the
is up to them.
What you have to know is who youare and be grounded in that.
And if you feel good about whoyou are and what you're doing,
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then it doesn't matter whatanybody else says.
I learned this through mydivorce too.
I remembered, I'd just forgottenin that moment.
But I remember thinking, mylawyer saying, you know, we need
to do this, we need to do that.
And and I was like, you knowwhat?
I need time to really thinkabout it because I had decided I
was going to take the high roadevery time.
No matter what, I was gonna takethe high road and do the right
(27:24):
thing for me.
And that way, that no matterwhat anybody said, it didn't
matter because I knew.
So the same thing applied inthat situation.
The problem was is I I justreally didn't expect it.
And it was so public and I wasso exhausted that I just
couldn't, I couldn't see it, youknow.
So I guess that's the firstthing about that.
(27:46):
And the second thing is, is Iknew, even though how hard it
was, again, I knew it washappening for me because I knew
that the more that I went andthe more that I wanted to do
things like this, there was thatwas gonna happen.
And I needed to understand that.
And that was my first experiencewith it.
And it took me, it took me agood year, honestly, to to even
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fully be grounded in that.
It was it was really hard for meafter that.
And then as I kept feelingcalled to do it again, I was
like, Corless, are you sure?
Why?
Why would you put yourself inthat position?
And then I was like, I'm goingto because I'm called to.
I feel it, I'm supposed to doit, so I'm gonna do it, but I
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have to know that that's gonnahappen and I have to be prepared
for that.
And I have to stay grounded inwho I am and that it's gonna
strengthen me, and that theright people will always align
and the wrong people will not,and that's okay.
And I have to just recognizethat that could be a part of the
journey.
Maybe it won't be that time, butthere's a chance that it could
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be.
You know, we all make mistakes,and there are gonna be people
who will attack you for thosemistakes, and then there's going
to be people who will be like, Imade mistakes too.
I think there's a verse in theBible actually that says, He who
is without sin, throw the firststone, something like that.
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And I'm gonna really practicethat where I am not gonna throw
stones when people makemistakes.
I'm gonna try not to judge themand hoping that that comes full
circle, that my example, youknow, supports other people and
doing that as well.
So I am prepared for it tohappen.
People are always coming fromwherever they're at.
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And I'm gonna forgive myself formy own mistakes.
I'm gonna practice not beingjudgmental of other people and
just supporting them.
And there is a way to handlethings.
You know, this particular group,they could have just come to me
and said, Hey, you know what?
We're feeling this way, and Icould have had a chance to like
learn from it or grow from it,or they could have attacked me,
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which is what they chose to do.
I'm gonna choose the the firstoption every time.
SPEAKER_00 (30:01):
Yeah, core less.
Thank you for sharing because Ithink um there's there's not
good people out there, and youwe have we have to be ready, as
you said, and you weren't, andyou are now you know that they
are there and you'll beconscious of it.
Um it's still it's still it'sstill crappy and it still will
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happen, and but we're betterprepared for it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:26):
You know what?
Everybody is wherever they're aton their journey, and I'm not
better than anyone else.
You know, I I don't want tothink I'm better than or
anything.
I I just really think that we'reall on our own journey.
We're all we're all here, youknow, for a reason, and we're
all gonna learn what whereverwe're supposed to learn.
And God is helping us along withthat.
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And we're all just you just haveto do the best you can.
This is why it has to come backto like you.
It really has to come back toyou, your connection with
yourself, your connection withsomething that's bigger than
you.
We're all here for a reason andto serve that in the best of
your ability in how you liveyour life, in the example that
you are.
And that's it.
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You know, some people aren'tgonna align because they're in a
different place in theirjourney.
So that's okay.
We're all here to learn fromeach other in some way, shape,
or form.
And we're also connected.
So I'm gonna just send love.
I'm like, I'm just gonna sendlove next time.
Instead of being broken by it,I'm just gonna be like, you need
love.
You know, Christina said on thestage, you remember because this
was going on during theconference.
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They knew that I couldn'trespond.
I was busy with the conference,right?
So they knew this was going onthe whole time.
It wasn't just after.
Yeah, it was awful.
And thankfully, Christina wasthere because Christina has lots
of trolls.
And you remember, I asked her onthe stage, I said, Yes, what do
you like?
What do you what do you think ofthe trolls?
(31:49):
Because I was battling this,like I was going through this,
and she said, Oh, it's justsomebody who needs a hug.
I remember.
Do you remember?
And we laughed about thatbecause it's true.
It was just somebody who needs ahug.
And you know, because really, ifyou're in a place of love and
loving yourself and loving yourlike, you don't go out and try
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and attack people, you don't goout and try and bring them down,
especially somebody who'sgenuinely trying to do something
good.
You don't do that, you know.
So their hearts are, you know,full of hate or something or
resentment or something.
So I'm like, you know what?
I'm just gonna send them love.
So should that ever show up inmy life again?
I'm just gonna remember that isthis all me or is there anything
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I can learn here?
That's the first thing.
Is there anything I can learnhere?
Is there something that can helpme grow?
And then maybe there issomething to look at.
So check it out and thenconsider the source.
Is this the source that I shouldbe looking at?
And then if it's not, you knowwhat?
Release it and send it withlove.
Bless and release with love.
SPEAKER_00 (32:50):
Yeah, because I think the troll, the devil,
wants us to hide, wants us tokeep it inside and go, you're no
good.
Like just stop what you're doingbecause but you knew the
purpose.
So thanks for sharing that.
So at Leader Impact, we want togrow personally, professionally,
and spiritually for increasingimpact.
And I feel like you already didthis, but if you have an example
of how the spiritual makes apractical difference in your
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life as a leader, it does.
SPEAKER_01 (33:12):
As a matter of fact, sometimes I go into the mode of
like do, do, do, do, do.
I gotta do more, I gotta do allthis.
And then I burn myself out.
I become exhausted.
And even if my intentions aregood, you know, that what I'm
doing is like serving morepeople.
It's like, wait a second, I am ahuman being.
I am not here to do, I amco-creating with God, but I'm
(33:33):
not here to be God.
I don't have to do it all.
And I have to actually stop andask myself why?
Why am I doing what I'm doing?
This is a really big thing forme, where it's like I get caught
up in this pattern of like, Igotta do more, I gotta be more,
I gotta show up more, I gottado, you know.
And it's like this franticness,and it's like, wait, stop for a
(33:54):
second.
Why are you doing what you'redoing?
Does it align with who you are,what your purpose is, what you
feel you're here for?
Does it serve something that isimportant in your life in in the
big picture?
And if not, then I just gottastop.
Like just stop and just pausefor a second.
So it's like just going inwithin.
You know, every time I speaknow, so now I've really pivoted
(34:16):
into professional speaking.
And and uh oftentimes they'llask me about that.
They'll say, you know, how doyou how do you do that?
Like I just spoke in Reginaactually for 60 straight
minutes, and everybody keptsaying, we have never seen
somebody do it without anyslides, without any, and I said,
You they said, How do you dothat?
And I said, I'll tell youexactly how I do it.
Before I go out there, Iremember that speaking has
(34:39):
nothing to do with me.
Speaking is all about the peoplethat I'm serving.
And I look to the person at theback of the room, not
necessarily the actual person,but I just envision the person
at the back of the room.
What are they feeling?
What are they struggling with?
What could I possibly help themwith?
And then I go and I speak tothat person because the power of
one is really real.
(34:59):
And if you can help one person,that person takes that with them
everywhere that they go and theyinfluence somebody, and then
somebody's influence there thatthey've touched, and it goes on.
So that's why I just reallyspeak to the one person at the
back of the room.
And I allow God to speak throughme.
It's like, God, what do you wantme to say?
(35:20):
Now, don't get me wrong.
I know my message, I know whatI'm there to say, I know I'm
there to support the organizersand what they're trying to do
and why they hired me.
But I really get grounded in thehuman beings that I'm there to
serve and that I have a voicethat I can use to speak in a way
that supports people.
And I feel like that's Godworking through me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:42):
Corless, you're brilliant.
I love listening to you becausesometimes I think we forget.
You know, we walk on stage andit's all about us.
Do I look good?
Do I, you know, am I funny?
Am I and we think like, no, didyou earn the right to speak
here?
Like, are you speak to oneperson in the back of the room?
Are you changing a life?
And and let the Holy Spiritspeak through you.
(36:02):
Like, I yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
I can share one thing here.
So, Jack Ekstrom, so her um TEDxtalk, because I'm about to do a
TEDx talk, and what a beautifulopportunity I'm being given
here.
I never even applied.
They came to me and they werelike, We love what you're about.
You know, do you have a messagethat you want to bring to the
TEDx stage?
And I just know, I know Godwants me to speak this message.
(36:24):
It is very original, and I knowI'm supposed to speak it, and
it's coming up in the next fewmonths.
And in this um supportingprogram, I've met some really
extraordinary coaches andpeople.
And this one woman, her name isJack Ekstrom, and she uh has a
TEDx talk that went millions,like it's got lots of millions
of views.
(36:44):
She's beautiful, she's abeautiful human being.
It's so, it's so lovely.
I've had a chance to meet herand and talk with her.
Anyway, having said that, shesays there's two types of
speakers.
There's the lighthouse speaker,and then there's the spotlight
speaker.
So the spotlight speaker iswhere the spotlight's on me.
Everybody look at me.
(37:05):
How do I look?
It's it's very egocentric,right?
Because it's like, look at how Iam.
I'm out here with a message, Iknow my stuff, trying to prove
that kind of thing, you know?
And then there's the lighthousespeaker where it's like you're
there to be a lighthouse forother people.
I want to be a lighthouse.
I want to shine the light to theperson at the back of the room
because if I can shine a lightfor the person at the back of
(37:27):
the room, my light toucheseverybody between me and the the
me and them, from the stage tothe person at the back.
So just just remember that.
I mean, there's definitelyskills to develop and all those
things, but every time youspeak, I feel like there's you
don't have to earn the right tospeak.
I think that because you'rehere, you have a voice and you
should use it, especially ifyou're grounded in using it for
(37:50):
a purpose, for a reason, insupport of someone else.
SPEAKER_00 (37:54):
Yeah.
Oh that was great.
Thank you for sharing that.
Um, at Leader Impact, we arededicated to leaders having a
lasting impact.
So as you continue to movethrough this amazing journey
that you share, uh, what haveyou considered your faith legacy
to be when you leave this world?
SPEAKER_01 (38:11):
So that was that's an interesting question because
I I've certainly considered mylegacy, but not necessarily my
faith legacy.
So I don't know that I have areally great answer for you
there.
I think in reality, what Ireally do believe in the power
of one.
I believe that, you know, if I'mhere being the best version of
myself and bringing that to theworld in whatever capacity I'm
(38:34):
capable of, that my legacy liveson through everybody that I
touch and every life that Iinfluence.
And to me, that's whatleadership is.
Leadership is about impact andinfluence.
I love what you guys are doing.
I'm so grateful I get to be apart of it in some little teeny
tiny way.
But I think that the more thatyou can bring your best, you
know, to the world, whereveryou're at in your journey, you
(38:56):
know, we're all evolving, we'reall growing.
And if you keep growing andsharing that and bringing that
to other people, then I thinkyour legacy lives on far past.
It goes far further than whatthe eye can see, and it'll live
on way past you even being herephysically in the physical form.
SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Yeah.
I go right back to your commentabout the spotlight speaker in
the lighthouse, and you are alighthouse.
Like you just shine brightly andand love on everyone when when I
see you speak.
Um I I feel it.
Like it's not just coreless.
It's just you, I feel likeyou're looking right into my
soul.
So you are you are thislighthouse.
Um, thank you for sharing that.
(39:33):
That means everything to me.
Thank you.
Uh so our last question is whatbrings you the greatest joy?
SPEAKER_01 (39:39):
My grandson and my dog.
Uh, you know, it's the innocenceof those two.
I was actually thinking about itbecause of course you had sent
me that question in advance.
And I was like, what does bringme the own my my most joy?
And my grandson is just so Ihave one grandson, I have
another coming up um in July.
I'm so excited.
And it's such a beautiful thing,but honestly, it's the innocence
(40:01):
and the joy of like children.
I literally, you know, they saydo more that makes you forget
your phone.
I don't even care about anythingwhen I am with that little boy.
It is just so beautiful and soprecious.
And kind of the same thinghappens when I'm with my dog.
My dog is just love, he's justpure love, you know.
So it's like I can't help but bewith him, and he's just love.
(40:22):
It's just children and pets arelike pure love, and pure love is
connected to joy.
So those are the two things,honestly.
SPEAKER_00 (40:31):
Oh, Corless, that was lovely.
Uh, I want to thank you forjoining us.
SPEAKER_01 (40:36):
Can I add one more thing?
Okay, good.
Because you know what?
I I this I have to say this, Idon't know who needs to hear it.
When all that was going down,when Lee Conference was
happening, and I stepped on ontothat stage the morning of Lee
Conference.
I can honestly tell you, I feltso much joy.
(40:59):
It was like it was gone in asecond.
Everything that was going on inthe external world was literally
vanished.
And in that moment, I was like,this is nothing but pure joy.
I am exactly where I'm supposedto be.
So sometimes we look for theexternal things, you know, the
dog and the and the grandchildor whatever.
(41:20):
But the other thing is, is whenyou know that you're on purpose
in who you are, exactly whereGod wants you to be, you will
feel joy.
And I can honestly say it waslike he placed me there himself.
It's like he picked me up andjust put me right there, even
with everything going onexternally, and it was like you
are exactly where you'resupposed to be.
And the joy was so beautiful.
(41:41):
And that's why I know I'msupposed to do this because God
put it right in my heart.
SPEAKER_00 (41:45):
Yeah.
I love that because I believethat.
I believe I get, I feel likethere's such a joy, as you said,
when you know you you areexactly where you're supposed to
be.
And it could be in aconversation, you know you
should have been there, you wereplaced to be here.
You were, and even if it's notjoyous, like you you are placed
in a conversation, you're like,oh boy god, here we go.
(42:06):
You know, but you know that youwere placed and it's you know,
to do your best.
That is oh that brings me joy.
That was really good.
I'm glad you, I'm glad that youfelt you needed to say that.
That was awesome.
Thank you for inviting me too.
Corless, I have loved this last42 minutes.
You're just you are a joy.
Thank you for joining us.
(42:27):
Now, if people want to reach outfor you, they're like, I need to
talk to Corless.
I'd love to hear more about her,read the books, the podcasts.
What's the best place to findyou?
SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
Definitely my website.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm on all the social,like you'll find me there.
Um, but of course, social islike hit and miss, right?
What you'll see.
Um, so I would recommend mywebsite.
You know, every all my servicesare there.
There's lots of free offersthere.
A link to my podcast is there.
And um, you can also sign up formy weekly Kickstart.
So Monday Motivation is whatI've called it.
(42:57):
So every Monday you can get amessage direct from me to your
inbox.
So not a marketing email, butjust really a high-touch
connect.
So um feel free to connect withme on my website.
That's the best place.
Corlos.
Corlus.
Corlos.
SPEAKER_00 (43:10):
All right.
Thank you again, Corlus.
It has been just a pleasure tobe with you.
Yeah, right back at you.
Thank you again.
Well, I want to thank everyonefor joining us.
If you're part of Leader Impact,you can always discuss or share
this podcast with your group.
And if you're not yet part ofLeader Impact and would like to
find out more and grow yourleadership, find our podcast
page on our website atleaderimpact.ca.
You can also check out groupsavailable in Canada at
(43:32):
LeaderImpact.ca.
Or if you're listening fromanywhere else in the world,
check out LeaderImpact.com orget in touch with us by email.
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And if you like this podcast,please leave us a comment, give
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Thank you for engaging with us.
(43:52):
And remember, impact starts withyou.
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