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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Have you ever
considered how your sexual
health could be linked to youroverall cardiac health?
What about?
Have you ever thought abouttracking your physiological
responses during intimatemoments?
Have you ever looked at ways toimprove your sexual performance
through technology?
Or maybe you've just beencurious about how advancements
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in sex tech could revolutionizeyour personal wellness journey?
Joining me today, dr ElliotJustin MD, the CEO and founder
of MyFirmTech.
It's a technology companyenhancing male performance and
combating ED.
Dr Justin is an acclaimed expertin the rapidly evolving sex
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tech industry, with a uniquefocus on the intersection of
sexual and cardiac health andwell-being.
His interventions arerevolutionizing both intimate
experiences and cardiacwell-being.
With his team of physicians andbioengineers, they embedded
sensors into an advanced cockring or, for those that need a
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softer landing, an erection ringWorn during sex.
The tech ring graphs theduration of erections, firmness
and force of ejaculation and,worn overnight, the number of
nocturnal erections thatindicate vascular health and
impact on medication supplementsand alcohol.
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The Tech Ring has aneasy-to-use and informative
cloud-based application thatsecurely records, stores and
transmits data which can beshared in the privacy with your
doctor, you can do it with yourpartner or you just keep it for
your own personal ego.
Sexual performance can now beobjectively quantified, even
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gamified.
The tech ring is like anat-home EKG that tracks the
vital signs of a man's mostvital organ.
No appointments orprescriptions are necessary.
It is also the world's first,most comfortable and firming
penis rings.
Men can now get harder, thinksmarter about their sexual
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health and performance.
This is truly revolutionary.
Please welcome Dr Elliot Justin.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Thanks, it's great to
be here.
My mother gave me two firstnames and two last names, so
it's Elliot.
Justin, you can call me.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Thank you for joining
me today.
I'm a little nervous myself,but I am just loving this.
So today's topic is cock ringsfor all is what I would like to
say.
Cock rings for all.
And I want you to say I lovethe whole thing.
I didn't know this when I heardyou on the Dr Kelly show that
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men, straight men, think thatcock rings are only for gay men.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah well, it's a
sign of male obtuseness and
pride.
So 90% of gay men who aresexually active use cock rings
regularly, and only 10% ofstraight men do, and I think
there's several reasons for it.
Obviously, gay men'm more opento cock rings, and also there's
the reality that analpenetration is harder than
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vaginal penetration, and a ringcan help keep these guys stiff
enough for what they want to do.
But that said, you know we havea joke at medical conventions
which I've said before perhapsyou've heard before, but it's
pert pertinent to what you justsaid which is how do you tell
the difference between astraight doctor and a gay doctor
?
It probably applies to straightmen and gay men, which is you
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ask one question Do you use acock ring?
And the straight doctor'sreaction is like Superman,
kryptonite, oh, I don't needthat.
And the gay doctor's reactionis last night it was
uncomfortable, it's got a betterone.
So the problem is there's.
So, in addition to this sort ofnotion that men need to be
natural and virile and there'ssomething using AIDS is an issue
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of kind of offends their pridethere's also the fact that cock
rings suck.
They're uncomfortable, they'remade for 150 years the same,
frankly stupid way.
It's a hard, sore cone ring.
It's like a gasket or a nooseon your dick and you have to
have an erection before you putit on because it's a chokehold.
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It'll choke off the arterialflow and, frankly, a lot of men
who actually would reallybenefit from rings men with
decreased blood flow or men withanxiety syndrome performance
anxiety, which is common theyhave struggled to get an
erection.
So you're challenging them.
First I have to get an erection, then I got to put this thing
on.
So in my lifetime I'm quite abit older than you, stephanie,
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I'm 71 years old.
Vibrators have becomemainstream.
My mother's vibrator wasstashed away in the bottom
drawer of a supply closet thatwe found.
That she said was for a backmassage.
I don't know what she said.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love it, I do.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then in the 70s
and 80s, when I was actively
dating, before I got married,women used them but there was a
certain shame about them.
We're still back in theclear-up-of-the-vaginal-orgasm
phase and we're still callingwomen who can't orgasm back then
frigid or anorgasmic, and therewas sort of an embarrassment to
women to using vibrators.
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And now they're mainstreamed.
You know my wife, who you metearlier.
I don't know how many she hasand like a lot of women who use
vibrators probably you too shelikes to use more than one while
we're making love because atdifferent phases of her, of her
passion, uh, she wants to have arumble, she wants that buzz,
she wants this shape, she wantsto have that shape.
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And you know our daughter takesthem on dates and as as as to
her friends and they've eventurned into a form of jewelry.
You probably seen the crave,the crave vibrator, by the way I
don't like endorsing brands.
My wife really likes that one,so which one do you like?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
the crave okay, cool,
cool, cool can I just ask you
to please answer the questionabout that, because a lot of men
don't like women using that,because they feel inferior to
the vibrator do they really?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
is that really the
case?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I mean, I thought
that is right here, um not you
see, this is the thing, becauseyou're such an out-of-the-box
thinker, which I love, andthat's why we're rule breakers
and not rule makers.
But the thing is is that thisis what women tell me that my
husband won't let me bring avibrator into the home, so I
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know you have it freely.
There Is not how you hear aboutit from men.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't hear about
that from men anymore, and I did
.
I did back in the 90s.
I don't hear that anymore,thank you.
I think the attitude, thatattitude has changed and I don't
want to generalize about that,but that's really my impression.
I wonder sometimes whether thewomen aren't using that as an
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excuse when I hear it, becauseI'll put it this way the women
aren't using that as an excusewhen I hear it.
You're right, I'll put it thisway.
I want to talk about technologya little bit, but if a woman
introduces a sex toy into arelationship, it's far more
likely not to get used.
If a man introduces a sex toy,if a man brings a vibrator,
that's totally different.
If a man introduces a sex toy,it might get used once or twice
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and then it ends up under thebed or in the night table or in
the garbage or hidden away.
I think the men are much morefocused on if she's happy, I'll
be happy.
I don't think that's the case.
I know that there are other,but I don't think that's the
case anymore.
I do think that when it comes tocock rings, our data shows that
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all men use cock rings and sowe have internal data and we
looked at something that's neverbeen studied before, which is
D2 messes.
So D2 messes is the time ittakes to get an erection.
Well, there are lots ofvariables.
It's really hard to study withthat.
Hey, is it alone?
Is it with a partner?
Are you watching porn?
Are you drunk, are you smokingpot?
What medications do you take?
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What disease?
A lot of variables that affecttumescence, d2mescence, with
nothing else involved.
That's more objective.
That's the time it takes for anerection to go down.
So we studied 21 men.
Now, granted, they're all herein Montana, where I live, but I
suspect we can generalize inthis data.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I love it.
Data's data, honey.
Some of this data let's just bereal Some of our data that we
get from pharma and from medicaldevices.
They only have fiveparticipants, so you having 21
is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, if you go back
to the original PD-5 data, the
Viagra data, it's marginallybetter than placebo.
But so and I have, I have meantI'm drifting away by 30 seconds
I have mentioned my prescribedto Dalafil Cialis and they tell
me that it works for them, evenif it's just in their wallet or
in their night table.
So we're talking aboutsomething that has a profound
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placebo effect.
So raw data.
When it comes to D2MS, the timeit takes to lose an erection, a
man will lose, and the menrange in age from 27 to 70.
I was the oldest person tostudy and the average erection
went down.
This is off the top of my head,I don't recall the exact
numbers about 35 seconds fromclimax to Caudill on the
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penetrate.
With Tadalafil, it was a littlebit over two minutes.
With our ring the maximumperformance ring it was over
four minutes.
And with both togetherTadalafil plus performance ring
it was over four minutes.
And with both together theDelpho plus the ring it was over
five minutes.
So the message really is men,if you want to have a harder,
longer-lasting erection, put aring on it, get over your wishes
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, and our ring was specificallydesigned for comfort.
Now, if you want, the ultimatewould be a ring plus a
medication, but the ring is moreeffective.
And doctors, of course theydon't know about rings, they're
not oriented to rings.
Doctors write prescriptions,they order tests.
They want you to come back,they want to do an intervention.
So the current right now if aman has rectal dysfunction sees
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a urologist, they'll wave aDoppler over his dick in the
office.
Now, what is that telling you?
Men want to know what's goingon when they're trying to have
sex.
If I go into a doctor's officeand I get a nurse that has cold
hands, could be male or female,puts her hands on my penis with
cold lube and then takes anultrasound probe which is cold
and puts it on my penis, we'renot coming anywhere close to
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what's going on when that man istrying to have sex, sexual
relations.
So now we've done a Dopplerstudy, this man, because you get
paid to do a Doppler, andyou've ordered a panel of
hormone tests.
And let's suppose the hormonetests are normal, what's the
next thing the doctor would do?
Get a pill.
We're going to prescribe agrosedans, one of the medications.
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Well, those medications arereally.
They do put blood into thepenis.
I think the large effect isplacebo, they do put blood into
the penis.
Is that the man's problem,though?
Because there are two problemsthat men have, and the
urologists group these twoproblems together dumbly.
One is I can't attain anerection.
If a man can't attain anerection, he's got a serious
problem, that that man hasdiabetes medication issues.
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Uh, this isn't relation.
This is probably not arelationship problem.
The most common problem for menis they.
They start to get an erection,or they get an erection and they
lose it, and they can lose itfor anything from performance,
anxiety, distraction,medications, diseases, alcohol,
drugs.
So at FirmTech, those men, ifyou can get an erection, do you
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really need a PD-5 medication?
That PD-5 puts blood in, butyou're already putting blood in.
Maybe put a little more blood,so maybe the medication puts a
little more blood in.
If you're older, you havediabetes, hypertension, but your
issue is sustaining an erection, so a ring helps you sustain an
erection.
Rings I'll talk personally.
Rings have changed my marriage.
I'm married this is my 36thyear.
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I never use cock ringsregularly.
We are into sex like you, butmy wife would maybe buy me a
cock ring once a year, twice ayear, kind of like a novelty,
and we use it once and we didn'tlike it because they're
uncomfortable and she didn'tlike them either, because they
kind of come between us.
And then there's this sort ofyou know, there's this cringe
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moment after a man comes, youwant this thing off right away.
The great thing, getting back tothe data I gave you before, if
I'm going to stay hard four orfive minutes after I've had an
orgasm, that's one way in whichthis ring has changed our lives
in terms of the quality of ourintimacy, because the male
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mindset is come and done.
Men have an erection.
You can probably stab them inthe back while they're fucking
and they just probably keepfucking until they bled out.
But once they come, they'redone and it's like, hey well,
who texted me while we're havingsex?
Or let's have a drink, or let'sgo to bed, what's next?
A man with a sustaineddirection afterwards,
comfortable, one differentmindset.
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Next go.
So at our age, it's not like Ihave to keep on thrusting for my
wife to come again, but mymindset is totally different and
we both comment on this.
We spend more time horizontalafter making love, talking,
intimate, rubbing, intimatelyengaged, and that's really.
That was profound.
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So the challenge you're goingback to the beginning with firm
tech.
I didn't set out to make a bedof cock ring.
I didn't.
That was secondary.
I really set out to get data.
So I was challenged by aurologist, dr Jim Hotali he's
now my chief medical officer atthe University of Utah to come
up with a way of counting thenumber of noxious colorectal in
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men while they're sleeping.
I mean, everyone knows aboutmorning wood and we poke our
partner with it and we laughabout it and we worry about it
if we don't have it.
But I have no idea that is aleading indicator of
cardiovascular health ormedication side of that.
So, stephanie, your medicineleading indicator that's a
profound thing to say.
When he told me that, I thought, wow, this is a sixth vital
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sign.
This is really important becauseassociation is already a
motivator in medicine.
So high blood pressure isassociated with heart attack and
stroke.
It doesn't.
It's not a leading indicator,unless it's really high, in
which case it's a hypertensiveemergency, but that's extreme.
It's an association, andbecause it's an association we
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take pills, we watch our diet,we watch our weight, all these
other things.
Because it's an association.
But now we're talking about aleading indicator.
No-transcript.
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So you and I live in this ageof healthcare wearables and
there's this big gap with thesex.
And what do men care more about?
How many steps it tookyesterday, when the game
happened or where the dick worksExactly?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
How their cock works.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
How their cock works
Exactly.
So this could be a profoundmotivator, not just for better
sexual health, but for bettercardiovascular health, better
health overall, and we know that.
My hope, of course, is thatpeople will develop positive
relationship with our tech ringBecause, you know I just give an
example it's kind of typical.
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You know, my wife has a digitalscale.
She watches her weight.
I don't need to watch my weight, but I step on that scale every
day because it's there and Ilike the data feedback.
Yes, watch my weight, but Istep on that scale every day,
because it's there and I likethe data feedback.
Oh, I'm good, you know, with ourring it's it's, and I'm going
to turn on my phone so I canshow you the app.
With our ring it's the same waywe have I.
My data is a motivator, so Ipersonally just have used the
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ring a couple of times to change.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So the data from the
ring goes right to an
application.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It goes to the cloud
and it's on Bluetooth enabled.
So when the ring?
Have you seen the ring?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I saw a picture only
on the videos.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
We should get to one
to play around with.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I would love it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, that's the ring
.
So there's a pressure sensorthere, a strange gauge there.
We'll be adding other sensorsnext year and you drop, it goes
on differently.
You know one thing it's notmade out of hard silicone, it's
made out of software.
Yeah, I love that.
It looks nice.
Okay, it opens and closes forsafety with a feature adopted
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from the bra.
So instead of being a ring, itopens and closes for safety with
a feature adopted from the bra.
So instead of being a ring, itopens and closes with a hook.
So I'm a lean guy, I can lookdown and I can see my penis.
But most guys they look downand see belly and these rings
can be hard to put on.
Our ring does not block thearterial flow of the penis.
It just constrains the penisreturn and that means it can be
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put on discreetly.
It doesn't have to be oh, I'vegot an erection.
Where's my ring?
Now we can have sex.
So it can be put on hoursbefore sex.
It can be worn for hours.
So it does two things.
One, it gives people vital data.
Here I'll show you what itlooks like.
We're in the Apple and Googlestores.
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That's our logo over there FirmTech.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
We.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I will show that as a
post.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yep, here I'll show
you what it looks like.
Yeah, I'll show you.
This is my data.
Okay, tell us what it means Ascore above 6.5 is good.
I'm averaging 3.3 nocturnalerections per night.
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If you have sex before you goto bed which I try to have sex
before I go to bed every night,I don't know why anyone wouldn't
the it will go down.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I'm a morning person.
I like both, but I do likemorning.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, it helps with
sleep.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That's right, it does
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So, although so, Okay
, good.
So what we've noticed in ourdata is that having sex, well,
it really depends on how longyou have sex.
But having sex for 20, 30minutes before you go to bed, I
kind of regard that as a quickie.
But having sex before you go tobed is reducing the number of
nocturnal erections.
So I average three per night.
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If I don't have sex before I goto bed, I'll have five to six
nocturnal eruptions.
So for me, I'll show you whatthe day looks like.
It's so beautiful, okay.
So here here, this is the auntand I having sex, here, my wife
and I having sex, and you'reseeing this.
We call this the love notch.
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Why?
Because in most committedrelationships the woman comes
first, that's her peak, and thenI get some attention paid to me
and then I come over there.
So a little lag period inbetween and then I'm having you
know, these are nocturnalerections Bang, bang, bang bang.
So for me this is more fun thanmy electric cardiogram.
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This means I'm in goodcardiovascular health and good
sexual health.
I love that and I could measurethe impact of, if I want to, of
alcohol, marijuana, medications, you know upon my sleep.
So what I've noticed is, if I'munder a lot of stress, my
nocturnals go down and it makesme pay attention to what's
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stressing me.
What can I do to relieve thestress?
Or if I travel internationally,I'll take Zolpidem Ambien for
sleep.
It kills my nocturnals.
I mean people who take thatregularly are actually
negatively impacting theirsexual health and probably their
cardiovascular health as welltoo.
And I can, even with this device, see when this is a point for
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men and for women.
When you're drinking you getreally turned on but you can't
climax.
I can actually nail it.
Our daughter wants us to comeup with that and we will
eventually do this.
It's just a question of timeand money.
Come up with that.
I love it.
Like, for example, steph, ifyou and I are involved, you
could actually get you know andyou saw me drinking.
You could actually count mydrinks and send us both alerts
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to our smartwatches or device orphone saying hey, elliot, if
you want to have sex tonight,you're at your limit.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Imagine how good that
would be for a couple, because
he's got to go right, he wantsit to happen, and she's like the
way he's drinking it's notgoing to happen.
And he's like, oh, yes, it is,and so then they can just have
an application that will settleso many fights.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
By the way, that goes
both ways for men watching
their walk there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
They're wondering
yeah, I love that.
Yes, it does, it goes both ways.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yes, thank you so the
data is really valuable, but
the ring but in order to but thering itself.
I didn't understand.
I didn't understand the valueof rings.
I don't accept that one now.
So I don't really need a ring,I want a ring.
So when men tell me doctors,straight doctors or just
straight men, I don't need it,my response is do you want a
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better orgasm?
Do you want to last longer?
Do you want to be harder?
Do you want your partner to be?
Do you want it to be easier tosatisfy a partner?
Do you want your partner to bemore excited because you're more
satisfied?
And these and ask all thosequestions is, of course, yes.
So I, you know, I hope I've youknow, really going on speaking
to people like you, promotingthis that, yeah, the technology
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is really valuable.
The tech, not the data, can behealth changing potentially
life-saving but yes, put a ringon it uh I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Put a ring on it um
here's.
Here's the thing.
Um, okay, why you said youmentioned this thing about going
, and I don't know how a guygoes into a urologist and gets
tested and the whole one thingand all blah, blah, blah.
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Why are we not handing them aring, sending them out of the
office with that ring, askingthem to get that data?
Come back with that data to theurologist and the cardiologist,
because they both could begetting down deeper to exactly
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the issues of the patient, whichis where we need to get down to
.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Well, it starts with
the fact that people are still
inhibited about talking aboutsex, doctors especially.
So I've never, even though inmedical medical school we learn
how to take a sexual history.
Uh, we didn't.
We never do it afterwardsbecause that's it and I think
the reason is there's no moneyin it.
Because right now, let's talkhealth record we have.
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We are reminded what to or whatto sit, what to ask, what to
order, and sex is not part of it.
I've never I'm 71 years oldI've never had a doctor ask me
about my sexual health.
I've never had a doctor ask meabout my marriage or my
partnerships, my relationships.
It's incredible, because what'smost important to people aside
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from money, what's mostimportant to people is their
love life, and doctors don't askabout it.
I mean important to theirmental health and even their
overall health.
So doctors ask about theirinsurance status.
They don't ask about yoursexual health.
So the problem starts there.
And then the next part of theproblem is the doctors are,
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overall, relatively straight.
They might be politically weknow they're politically liberal
but they're sexuallyconservative, so they're
inhibited.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
They don't want to
ask.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They're embarrassed
to ask People and then there's a
lot of research.
So the way our approach to thisis one song on our podcast is
there are now four papersaccepted for publication.
There will be another fourpapers this year, maybe six.
So people are going to start to.
Doctors, urologists andsexologists are going to learn
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about our device.
If I had money for a media buyI would, but I don't have that
kind of money.
But I do have the money to getresearch.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
We're going to work
on getting you money, because
all we're going to do is keep ontalking about it, because this
is really.
I mean.
I keep on talking about healthand sex because my tagline is
helping you create a healthy,satisfying sex life, and you
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cannot have good sex unlessyou're healthy.
Okay, let's be clear.
It's not fun If you're, ifyou're not healthy or feeling
good, you're not going to havegreat sex.
So, to me, we're going to, wehave to continue to talk about
it and, um, that's why I'm doingmy podcast and bringing on
people like yourself, becausethis can be life changing.
Here's some things because Idefinitely want to know.
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I already know about 10 peoplethat want to buy it.
So I already know, I alreadyknow, you know.
So when I give gifts like youwere talking about your daughter
, about how she always, you know, takes her vibrator I give
gifts, birthday gifts you get avibrator or some kind of.
I believe in actually, Ibelieve in anal massages for the
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prostate, because 40% of menhave prostate cancer and if we
massage that prostate, it's good.
So maybe we'll talk about thatanother time, or you can develop
.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But frequency is not
important to men.
Women too, by the way.
Yes so if a man has sexregularly man over 50 has sex
regularly his cortisol levelsare half.
I mean regularly, I mean everyday.
If a man has sex every day fortwo weeks, his cortisol levels
are down 50%.
Men over the age of 75 who havesex two or three times a week
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decrease their cardiovascularrisk between 25% and 50%.
It doesn't mean they're notgoing to die, but these things
are published research.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I have an
eight-year-old still having sex
here, honey, that's what I'mtalking about.
Here's the thing we are goingto live longer.
We are not going to live tillyou know.
We're going to live much longerand we want to have vitality.
And the only way to havevitality is to have good sex and
to eat good and take care ofourselves.
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So this is the key here.
We can start then measuringyour device.
We can start measuring.
People will start looking attheir cock, because that's
really what's important to them,and they'll be able to see the
data to do something.
See, being fat sitting on acouch.
They're not going to doanything, but if they can see
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that their cock isn't working orit's going downhill, they're
going to get up and do something.
That is how I think men think.
Am I right, or?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
wrong.
I think you're right, but Ithink a lot of people also.
They give up, they get bored.
There's several things peopledon't like to talk about in
relationships, and one of themis boredom.
Well, the way to deal withboredom.
I'll give a couple personalexamples, but in general, when I
talk to other couples, what Ihear is you got to stop making
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love regularly years ago becauseyou made it boring or you made
it difficult.
Well, we're under stress, wegot kids, we're at work, blah
blah, and then people loseconfidence and it's so easy to
rationalize not making love.
I think people need to plan forpleasure, and if people find
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themselves spending more time inthe gym a lot more time in the
gym than they are making love,they're showing two things.
One, if you can get on aPeloton for 45 minutes, you
can't make love for 15 minutes.
Seriously, I mean I would.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
So people need to
invest in pleasure in their
relationship.
Stephanie, I'm a.
Really.
If you ever come to BozemanMontana, my wife and I joke that
our house is the bestrestaurant If you're going to
come here and visit.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't likeopen the refrigerator and say,
oh, stephanie's coming in a fewminutes.
What's here?
Oh, I got some rotisseriechicken.
Let's heat it up and I'll throwsome sauce on it.
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No, I would plan a meal.
People like to rationalize thatoh well, great sex is
spontaneous.
Yeah, spontaneous sex is great,but it's hard to have
spontaneous sex as you get older.
That's the reality People wantto talk about the dangers of
porn?
How about the dangers of HBOGame of Thrones?
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Sex is kind of fun to watch,but that's not the reality.
I don't throw my wife upagainst the wall and bang her
hard and we both cum.
She doesn't push me down thebed, tear my clothing off and we
both climax together.
That's not reality.
That's not reality.
So what do you need to do inorder to have better sex?
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You need to plan.
There are toys, there'srole-playing, there's so much
fun that people can have if theywill take the time, if they
will overcome their inhibitions.
Talk about it and plan.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Thank plan, thank you
, thank you, thank you, and it's
kind of cool to see you, as amale, have your inhibitions
really.
You know, be open to exploringso much with your wife, and I
love that, because so many mendon't know how to and many women
do not.
And I don't know how to teachwomen.
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I have a friend that teacheswomen.
I'm more on the man side.
That's the reason why I reallyloved your stuff, because I love
teaching men about how to takebetter care of their cock.
But also, too, they like tojust think that they should
explode and just have fun, andI'm like, no, sometimes you need
to hold that power, hold it andjust create some fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
The lead up that's
where the ring is great, and so
I'm talking about myself rightnow, but I'm talking about
patients, looking at thecustomers, a lot of customers.
What I'm about to tell you,which is that the ring is a
profound confidence builder forboth the man and the woman, or
it could be a man and a man, butthe ring is a and I'll get to
man and men in a moment, becauseI had some interesting stories
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there but the ring is a greatconfidence builder.
You know, prior to my wifeusing cock rings regularly,
there were certain positionsthat had become boring, at least
boring for me.
Boring for me because ofrepetition.
Boring for me because I didn'tget the friction that I needed,
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because I'm older and also we'vedone this so many times and my
wife has had three kids.
So things like the missionaryposition or having sex from
behind, yeah, I do them, but inmy mind I'd be thinking I'm
going to lose my erection in afew minutes.
Why are you making me do this?
Because I'm not turned onenough.
But with the ring, my mindsetis different.
I'm now a guy with an erection,and the guy with an erection
thinks differently.
The guy with an erection thinksyeah, I might not want to come
in this position, but you'reenjoying it.
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I'm hard, I'm still turned on.
You want to do this 10, 15minutes, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And that's been a
life-changing thing for Annie
and.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I, I really like that
.
Yeah, go ahead.
Women have a problem that mencomplain about to each other,
which is and men most of theirluck discusses with their wives,
but the wives are aware whenthey do it anyway.
Girlfriends, in the middle ofpassionate sex, some of us start
talking about something else.
So it could be something thathappened at work, or it could be
something that happened at work, or it could be something that
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happened with a friend, orsomething that happened with
their mother or whatever it is.
And men think, especially oldermen, not 25-year-old guys, but
50-year-old guys, 60-year-olds,71-year-old guys what the fuck?
You can't hold off that thoughtfor five minutes.
We're both about to have anorgasm.
Now I got to hear about yourmother.
Or you just figured out a greatidea to redesign a bedroom.
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I don't want to hear about itright now.
So with the ring on, I don'tcare anymore.
With the ring on, I don't goahead, because you can talk
about that for five minutes andI'm still going to have an
erection.
So it doesn't make a difference.
And I both laugh about thatchange because it's so she.
So the ring was also.
With the ring there's no longerbecause we're both older people.
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Okay, we're both turned on.
Now she wants to get out of thelibrary.
We're going to fuck, we'regoing to, we're going to try to
come in five to 10 minutes,because we're all turned on with
the ring.
Now we make love for 30, andit's because and she's, I would
say her she has more orgasms andI enjoy it more too.
I don't really want to havingan orgasm for me in five minutes
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.
That's like having an horsd'oeuvre or a cocktail.
I'm not really interested.
I want to be edged, I want tohave multiple.
She wants it as well too.
It's really changed theexperience and I hear about that
from men who use our rings andtheir partners, whether they
have ED or whether they don'thave ED.
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The ring is a confidencebuilder for both people in their
relationship.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Talk about this
literal one, because you said
that you get the data from both.
So tell us how that whole worksin our head, how it gets onto
the computer.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
We have a device for
women.
We've tested on 38 women.
We have I'll test.
Well, you don't want to test thenext version because the
sensors that we originallytested there are two papers
about this We've come up with.
We've learned about sensors,more sensors, better sensors,
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Some ones that are moresensitive and specific than the
ones that we're currently using.
I'm not going to tell you whatthey are because it's
proprietary, but that devicereally is just a question of
money and we need about on theengineering side.
I need about half a milliondollars to complete that and
take it to market.
Come look up a thousand dollarsfor research and the rest of it
for marketing.
So I will come out with thatdevice in 2025, regardless, but
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I can make it happen faster if Ihad money.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I'm going to help you
.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So we're measuring
clitoral health.
So there's a vibrator called alioness which will tell you
what's going on inside yourvagina.
It will measure pubicprocedures, muscle contractions,
vaginal wall movements, justduring sex, but it can't be used
in penetrative sex.
I'm interested in the health ofthe clitoris, just the way I
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was interested in the health ofthe clitoris, just the way I was
interested in the health of thepenis.
I wonder about the health ofthe clitoris.
It's easy we do have a sensorinside the vagina with our
device that can give us the samedata that the lioness gives.
But I want to know what's goingon with the clitoris so that
women can then measure theimpact of diseases and
medications, et cetera, upontheir sexual health.
So postmenopausal women have allthe same problems.
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Before menopause, femalehormones give women some
protection not total protectionagainst atherosclerosis.
Postmenopausal women have allthe same problems that men do
and actually it's all prettymuch equal now because women
unfortunately become too manyand overweight.
Diabetes, hypertension, obesity, these are really these are
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central health cardiovascularproblems.
Premenopausal women take moremedications than men do.
Premenopausal women often takehormones for birth control and
they take SSRI antidepressants,which are click killers.
And if women had a device suchas what I'm discussing.
They could then titrate thedosage.
They could see the impact.
It'll transform what women aredoing to themselves and what
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doctors are doing to them.
To have data.
Because you have data if youcan.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
As the cliche goes,
if you can track it, you can
yeah, yeah, yeah, and I lovethat because actually I got off
all of my medications last year.
I did all this stuff likeyou're.
What you're talking about isstuff that I did as a female
because it wasn't working for meanymore the SSRIs and all that
stuff blood pressure medication.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
The SSRIs are a
terrible class of medicine,
horrible.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, and so I went
on that whole journey with using
Dr Sarno's like thought processof like, bringing blood flow.
My mom actually has dementiaand so that's kind of why I
started getting into this.
She's young and but not moving,and she's my dad's like 80,
running circles around her soand he's ready to have sex, so
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I've got to help him.
I'm that person and so, um, soI kind of came up with his
philosophy of like, oh, bringingblood flow and throughout the
body and getting people movingright Blood flow and my sex was,
I mean, I, I take care ofmyself, I'm a single person by
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choice and I have FWBs, you knowfine, but I will say that since
getting off of all thatmedication, blood pressure,
reducing the weight, doing allof that, eating better my
orgasms are better.
So you are 100% right, but Iwould have loved to have tracked
that stuff.
That would have been super funto track, right.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It would have loved
to have tracked that stuff.
That would have been super funto track right, it would have
been motivating and it wouldhave given you valuable data
like okay, I'm doing thisintervention, is it working?
Because right now, you know andI'll say that I'm a doctor, a
conventional doctor but there'svery little reason for people to
trust doctors, especially afterCOVID, when so many doctors
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went along with lies likenatural immunity doesn't work
anymore.
So, as a consequence, peopleare turning more and more to
naturopaths, homeopaths, otheralternative health care,
whatever we want, integrativemedicine, et cetera.
What people don't realize isthose people, those other
doctors, are just as motivatedby money and often deluded by
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it's a strong word.
They're believers, they believethat alternatives are working,
but is it objective?
They're believers, they believethat alternatives are working,
but is it objective?
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So in the area of men's health,there are, you know, a man with
ED or a man who wants to stayvirile.
They'll walk on broken glassfor a solution.
So all these things being I menas potentially being beneficial
and I think some of them areand I know some of them aren't
and they range from shocktherapy, which I think can help
a lot of men, but it's beingsold as a solution to pretty
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much everyone and I think it'sreally going to be beneficial
for men with mild to moderatevasculogenic erectile
dysfunction, diabetes,hypertension.
It's not going to help guysthere are problems, men with ED.
It's not going to help, but theguys will pay money for it
anyway.
The plasma shot Well, I thinkthe data is equivocal.
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Then there's stem cells.
I kind of can see how thatmight work, but how about
proving it?
These are expensiveinterventions.
Then there's all the naturesoedicals.
The natures oedical market formen and women is multi-billion.
We haven't even found a singlebecause we tested a lot of oral
products for men.
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I'm not going to condemn anybrands.
Using a lot of technology, youcan test them.
You can take all sorts ofsupplements with our device and
say well, is that making my dickany harder?
I'm having more nocturnalerections If I'm taking
testosterone therapy.
I think there are men who havebenefits and men who doesn't.
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With technology, you can proveit, you can see it.
It's the same thing with womenwill have the same benefit for
the female device as well too.
So what we're doing isrevolutionary in terms of
urology and sexuality.
If I went to, or you went to, acardiologist right now and said
gee, you know, I walked down thedriveway.
I feel a short breath, Ihaven't felt that way before.
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And that doctor just listenedwith a step through our chest
and said you know, stephanie,your tic is sounds okay, your
pulse feels good, go ahead,you're okay.
You would think what the fuck?
It's 1880.
I want a CT calcium angiogram.
I want blood tests.
I want an electrocardiogram.
That's where urology andsexology are and gynecology are
for sexual health.
They can wave an ultrasoundover the penis of the clitoris
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in their office, but they can'treally tell you what you want to
know, which is what is reallygoing on.
If I take this pill, am Igetting better?
If I take this shot, am Igetting better?
If I do this exercise regimen,am I getting better?
So what we're talking about isrevolutionary.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Revolutionary.
Am I getting better?
So what we're talking about isrevolutionary and that's why it
will take time, because you'redoing something against what
everything in everyone's brain.
You're doing somethingcompletely that no one's done
and they can't see that there'sbenefits, but there's a lot of
benefits.
I think that we, I want to workwith you because I think we can
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do.
I know you have some GoFundMethings, but I, as you're talking
, my brain's like Dr Kelly.
You know her brain's going, mybrain's going, like you know.
She may have the patience andthat's great, but I think that
there's a way that we can getthis to, to way that we can get
this to um, to.
I have some different ideas andbut my here's some things um,
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where can I?
I'm going to put it on my uh,my link in my bio.
I'm going to have your websitefor people to go and buy Um.
I'm going to post all yourarticles all over my Reddit.
So that's where I post all myarticles, so that if anyone
wants to look for your articlesso quickly or whatever, because
I don't know what platformsyou're on, but I like to hit
people in about 10 differentplatforms, so this will go on
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about 10 different.
Actually, this will go on 13different platforms, so I'm set
up to do that right now.
Okay, so exactly how much moneybetween the female and the male
that we need.
So if anyone's listening to ourpodcast and wants to be able to
invest, what is it?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
1.6 million is what
we need for the female device.
The male device just needs somemarketing, needs some money for
a media buy, probably $300,000,maybe $2 million total some
marketing needs some money for amedia buy, probably $300,000,
maybe $2 million total.
Okay, and just let's telleveryone how much is the device
for the male right now?
Sure, it's just a retail priceof $275 for the tech ring and
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$60 for our best-selling product, which we call the maximum
performance ring.
It's a maximum performance ring.
It does not have any technologyin it, but it was designed to
increase the ejaculatory phaseby 50%.
So the longer the ejaculationlasts in a man, the more
powerful the orgasm is.
And we use that my wife and Iuse that pretty much every day.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
So you want both of
them, Bottom line.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
You want both, yeah
we're selling them as a bundle
on the website.
I mean the matching is so goodthat my wife says she's glad the
kids are out of the house,because I'm so loud and I know
it's not.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Tell me one more
story, because I know you want
me to end.
I want to keep on task, butjust tell me one other good
story that you want to sharewith the audience.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So our oldest client
that I'm aware of is 82 years
old.
His wife is 64.
He contacted me because he wasunable to have an orgasm for
about 15 months and would noticethat his erections were getting
harder.
For him to get erection hardenough for penetration, he was
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taking five medications, all ofwhich could have an impact on
his sexual performance.
I told him we warned everyonehey, don't make any changes
without consulting a doctor, butI know they do it anyway.
I suggested to him that heprobably only needs two of those
five medications and that forone of those two medications
there was an equivalent that didnot have an impact upon his
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sexual health.
And about six weeks later heand his wife sent me an email
saying they're having sex two orthree times a week, he can have
an orgasm again and they'rereally happy.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Ah, love it, I love
it.
That's a great story.
Okay, we're going to end there.
I'm going to stop, but stayright there because I want to
talk to you for one second, soI'm going to stop out there in
the world and sharing that withyou.
Isn't it mind-blowing that youcan measure the number of
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nocturnal erections and thatcould potentially indicate a
vascular health issue or animpact that's a medication
you're taking, a supplement, orhow alcohol is affecting your
penis.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
All right, man, go out and getyourself one.
Just get yourself one.
Okay, you don't need to waitfor your wife.
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This is not impacting her.
This is for you to know aboutyour physical health, your
sexual health and how yourerections are doing.
It will give you peace of mind.
We're going to have Dr J back onfor some more lives, q and AAs.
He's super excited.
I am too.
This is truly a mind-blowing,revolutionary cock ring and,
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like I say, it's a cock changerand everyone just needs to get
one.
I have a promo code from Dr J inthe links in my bio.
His product's at the first ofmy page.
Um, his products at the firstof my page.
The promo code's there for yourconvenience.
It's 10 off.
Go out there, get your cockring and start measuring what's
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going on with your physicalhealth and you.
We can measure by your numberof erections.
And the cool thing is that he'sdoing a female component for
the clitoris, so we're going tobe able to start doing that
females.
So I'm super excited about allof this stuff that's coming out
in the world and being able tobring it to you.
Please stay tuned because guesswhat?
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We're going to start doing ourlives over at Schizo Kitty in
Palm Desert starting Tuesday,april the 2nd so excited that
Dave the owner over there isworking with let's Talk About
Sex with me Stephanie Smith, andhelping us get out there and
start getting people morecomfortable about talking about
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sex.